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20 Jun 2022 09:53:17
Rumours that were interested in Lisandro Martinez

In my opinion, exactly the signing we need: CB or Def Mid, woukd dovetail nicely with FDJ

Woukd also then give United more space to wait until next Summer when I believe they’ll go for a cheaper Declan Rice.

Woukd be brilliant signing, exactly what we need this season.

Wallace

1.) 20 Jun 2022 10:14:37
A player able to play at CB and DM would certainly be useful, like City had with Fernandinho and Liverpool with Fabinho. I thought Kamara would have been a decent shout.


2.) 20 Jun 2022 10:24:48
If people were concerned about how a 5'10 Timber would handle the EPL then how do people feel about Martinez who stands at 5'9 and is 2kg lighter than Timber?


3.) 20 Jun 2022 10:30:08
Ed002 if you have time, is it true that Man Utd are interested in Lisandro Martinez as an alternative to Timber?

{Ed002's Note - Lisandro Martinez (CB) An approach by Manchester United may be on the cards but the clear two preferred targets are others. For Arsenal, if Saliba gets his wish to leave he would be one of several options the club has identified. Ajax do not want to sell.}


4.) 20 Jun 2022 11:04:57
Shappy kante is 5ft 6

Height means nothing, if he's good enough go and get him.


5.) 20 Jun 2022 11:16:31
Hey Ed,

So one is Pau Torres, who is the other CB United are looking at? And has the club had any discussion with Villareal for Torres?

Thanks!

{Ed002's Note - Pau Torres (CB) Villareal are struggling financially and will sell this summer at the right price. Manchester City had him as an option and it is unclear if they now need a major CB addition this summer. Manchester United had him as first choice, purchased Varane instead but are now chasing again with departures imminent. Barcelona has a sustained interest but price will likely be an issue and they may look to horse trade some players - but priorities will be elsewhere. Napoli saw Torres as a Kalidou Koulibaly replacement but they are an unlikely destination now. Bayern Munich have him as a potential target if other plans fail. Real Madrid wanted Torres to replace Ramos but do not want to get in to an auction. Was offered to Chelsea last summer by a third party knowing Kounde was unlikely - but he would be down the list for them. Spurs have had sustained interest sin Mr Mourinho was coach - and have spoken with the club as they have Lo Selso to trade.}


6.) 20 Jun 2022 11:36:17
As you like stats so much Shappy here are a few easily obtainable ones - Mascherano - 5ft8. Cannavaro - 5ft9. Think the art is more in the timing and technique of the jump, although I'm sure you'll remind us that the latter didn't play in the Prem. Not sure how much Mascherano played CB for Liverpool, more DM, but he certainly was used there and also at Barca.


7.) 20 Jun 2022 11:47:55
Thanks Ed!

Who would be the other target for United? Is it still Timber?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


8.) 20 Jun 2022 11:59:45
Bolger, Kante doesn't play at CB.

Spenno, like you say Cannavaro never played in the EPL. Mascherano pretty much exclusively played in midfield for Liverpool.

I'm not saying you need to be over 6ft to be a top class CB, I'm just saying I can't think of a single CB who played at an elite level in the EPL.

The EPL is the most physically demanding league in Europe, probably the world.

Martinez is not only short at 5'9, but pretty lightweight at 77kg. If Lindelof at 6'2 and 80kg is often physically bullied in the EPL, then you'd have to be concerned that a player like Lisandro Martinez would equally struggle given he is smaller and lighter.


9.) 20 Jun 2022 12:10:53
Blind was 5.9 and played CB with Smalling and kept 18 clean sheets and had the joint best defence.


10.) 20 Jun 2022 12:12:52
But that's not the point you made, you are making the point of him being small that might cause him an issue and kante does more than a cb in terms of duels and battling.

Plenty of small players have been successful

Regardless of position, aguero was 5 ft 8 and how often did he get bullied by bigger cbs

Linderrubbish could be 6ft 8 and he would still get bullied off the ball and in the air.

If he's good enough he's tall enough imo.


11.) 20 Jun 2022 12:22:40
Bolger, Kante wins an average of 0.6 of his aerial duels. For a CDM that isn't the end of the world, at CB, especially in the EPL, you'd expect to have to challenge for aerial duels a minimum of 3-4 times a match at least, probably more like 6-8 times.

You can't have a CB in the EPL that will lose an aerial duel more often than not. Its a serious weakness in a league like the EPL.


12.) 20 Jun 2022 12:33:21
Paul Parker you may have been a bit young shappy.


13.) 20 Jun 2022 12:34:17
That's what doc said to snow White bolger.


14.) 20 Jun 2022 12:39:30
Appreciate the info Ed002.

I wish the club could look at Goncalo Inacio of Sporting. I think he will be world class.

{Ed002's Note - Goncalo Inacio (CB) Newcastle have utilised a very high-end scout - an ex-PL player to look at the Sporting player. Sporting will not sell unless there is a huge offer. Wolves are keen. Manchester United may offer a wildcard option but have other priorities.}


15.) 20 Jun 2022 12:49:10
Great info ed not often we hear you say immanent anything you can share on those departures?


16.) 20 Jun 2022 12:55:31
Paul Parker, Ken? My era lol. Thought he was a fullback.


17.) 20 Jun 2022 14:08:17
Glad that we are at least considering him. Thanks for your time Ed002.


18.) 20 Jun 2022 17:35:47
Nathan Collins lads, he is the one.


19.) 20 Jun 2022 17:53:31
I do remember Parker, although I was young when he left, probably around 9 or 10.

From my memory though he mostly played at RB with Bruce and Pallister being first choice at CB.

I'm not saying either Timber or Martinez could be a success in the EPL. Just that they would have to go against the general trend to do so.

In fairness the EPL doe have fewer Duncan Fergusons than it used to have. Yet no league in Europe has more headed clearances on average. Which still suggests that defenders in England need to be stronger in the air than in other leagues.

Of the two Timber does look the more physically robust, with Martinez being the better reader of the game (something unsurprising given that he is four years older and far more experienced) .

I wouldn't be unhappy with either signing if that is what EtH wants. However, to remain consistent with my opinions, I said Pau Torres struggles in the air (which he does) and he is 6'3 and 80kg. As always I'd be happy to be proven wrong if any of them sign.

Yet from what I have seen I don't see any of them as better in the air or in physical ground duels than Lindelof. They obviously have other aspects of their game where they appear to be better than Lindelof, yet none of them appear to improve on his key weaknesses.


20.) 20 Jun 2022 17:53:42
Ferguson tried to be clever once and played Parker against Romario at CB at Old Trafford. He get annihilated. Romario was superb though. I was at the game and his movement was phenomenal. Same evening Lee Sharpe scored a beauty with a back heel.


21.) 20 Jun 2022 17:57:44
He spent most of his time at united at full back spenno but played for us at cb on occasion he played there for qpr and England on occasion.


22.) 20 Jun 2022 16:40:27
Ed who are the departures imminent at United?

{Ed002's Note - Jones, Tuanzebe and Bailly perhaps.}


23.) 20 Jun 2022 19:55:14
Strange fact, a Paul has played for United in midfield every season since 1982, except 2.
Ince, McGrath, Scholes, Pogba, we should sign another to keep up the tradition.


24.) 20 Jun 2022 23:00:04
Presumably why we are signing Torres then, assuming Catalan version of Paul counts.


 

 

12 Jun 2022 14:24:09
Hi Ed002,

Hope you’re having a lovely weekend!

If you’ve got a spare minute, would you mind posting a few details about interest in Matheus Nunes (Sporting) please? You mentioned in a previous post that he could be an attainable target and rumours picking up on social media (I know - Twatter strikes again! ) that he could be interested in a move to England.

Think he’d work well with De Jong should that finally be agreed and United don’t muck it up.

Thanks again for any info you feel able to provide.

Wallace

{Ed002's Note - Matheus Nunes (CM/DM) Manchester City and Spurs are very keen. Manchester United see him a a financial more viable Matic replacement than other options. Everton interest was rebuffed last summer.}


1.) 12 Jun 2022 15:59:11
Thank you for the swift and informative reply - very much appreciated!


 

 

04 Jun 2022 21:46:33
Hi Ed002,

Sorry to bother you but any truth in rumours that United are interested n Christian Eriksen?

If so, compete with Bruno Fernandes for a spit maybe?

Thanks as always!

Wallace

{Ed002's Note - I very much doubt it. There have been talks with two other clubs.}


1.) 05 Jun 2022 07:04:58
I’ve said all summer this signing would be a no brainier for me.

Outstanding quality on the ball, set piece delivery and a midfield three of (FDJ? ), Eriksen and Bruno against the bottom half sides where we struggle to break down deep defenses would be excellent. Plus he’s FREE. An absolutely essential signing in my opinion.


2.) 05 Jun 2022 08:02:19
Couldn't agree more Downsie. Fits in perfectly with a point I made yesterday that we should target an experienced player or 2 due to the amount of experience we are losing this summer.

He excelled under Poch and came through at Ajax so he not only has the ability on the ball to succeed at United but the temperament and background to be a good fit as well.


3.) 04 Jun 2022 22:54:58
Thanks for the quick reply Ed002 - very much appreciated!


4.) 05 Jun 2022 10:24:49
Brentford and Spurs?

{Ed002's Note - Yes.}


5.) 05 Jun 2022 13:01:17
He is schooled in the Ajax system although not under Ten Hag.

I think i mentioned somethingvlike this before the first time it was mentioned, but his presence in the dressing room may be humbling for some of the divas.

I would imagine his presence in any dressing room would be a very positive thing.

Finally he is one player I think that any fan anywhere only wants to see positive things for, even playing against us I hope he has a good game!


6.) 05 Jun 2022 13:44:03
Good player. Could do a job for us. But cannot and never was able to step it up to the next level required of a proper Man Utd player (I don’t class many if any of our current squad of that either) .


7.) 05 Jun 2022 16:14:56
Good player capable of great moments. I think after everything he has gone through over the past 12 months, nearly losing his life, the thought that he'd have to retire and never play football again.

I don't think you come back from that to accept anything other than first team football. I'd imagine he'll want to play as much and as often as he can.

I think given that we have Bruno, Donny and Hannibal all capable of playing in Eriksen's best position, he would be a squad player adding depth and experience.

I doubt that is a role he will be happy with as a 30 year old who nearly lost everything in the past year.

I wish him the very best, I hope he finds a club where he is happy and he gets to play many more games.


 

 

24 Mar 2022 12:27:58
Hi Ed002, back on Christmas Day, you very kindly gave us an amazing present of an updated list of United targets.

You explained that the following midfielders were of interest: (please forgive my notes next to them - not yours! )

Possible DMs:

Tyler Adams (DM/ RB)

Boubacar Kamara (DM/ CB) pre-contract agreed?

Declan Rice (DM) : too expensive and wanting CL football (+ Man City interested…)?

Kalvin Phillips (DM) : Aston Villa and West Ham seem really interested?

Aurelien Tchouameni (DM/ CM) : looks either Chelsea or Real Madrid bound?

Ruben Neves (DM/ CM)
Marcelo Brozovic (DM/ CM)
Yves Bissouma (CM/ DM)
Tanguy Ndombele (CM/ DM)

Possible CMs:

Amadou Haidara (CM) : preferred MU/ Rangnik choice?

Jude Bellingham (CM)
Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (CM)
John McGinn (CM)
Franck Kessié (CM) : off to Barcelona?

You have always very kindly told us that our number 1 target is Declan Rice but, given his cost and being Man City’s preferred target also, can you tell us who our current DM preferred target is if we can’t get Rice please?

(And, given its looking increasingly likely that we won’t get top 4, will that have an impact on any of our targets wanting to come to us?! )

Thanks as always for any info and sorry to trouble you if your answer is that there is no change to your Xmas list and United are just continuing to monitor them all.

(Don’t suppose any new DM/ CM targets have emerged recently?! Assuming we have space in MF with Matic, DVB, Pogba and Mata going that is! )

Wallace

{Ed002's Note -
Tyler Adams (DM/ RB) RBL have turned down a significant offer from elsewhere and do not want to sell.
Boubacar Kamara (DM/ CB) is moving elsewhere if compensation can be agreed with Marseille
Declan Rice (DM) Still the preferred choice for Manchester United
Kalvin Phillips (DM) : An ex-PL player acting as a scout for Real Madrid has watched the player on more than one occasion. They have concerns over injuries.
Aurelien Tchouameni (DM/ CM) : A lot of interest from other clubs but asking price is a huge issue
Ruben Neves (DM/ CM) An injury problem.
Marcelo Brozovic (DM/ CM) Extended contract.
Yves Bissouma (CM/ DM) Possible.
Tanguy Ndombele (CM/ DM) Interest may have gone.

Amadou Haidara (CM) : I expect a bid in the summer.
Jude Bellingham (CM) Won't move this summer.
Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (CM) Possible but strong interest from elsewhere.
John McGinn (CM) Interest seems to have gone.
Franck Kessié (CM) : Moving to Barcelona.

You can add:
Joao Palhinha (DM)


1.) 24 Mar 2022 13:53:50
Hi Ed, that’s awesome news. When you say expect a bid in summer for haidara you mean United? Would they get 2 midfielders with rice also preferred? I know one is Dm one is Cm.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, a MU bid. MU will need to work on the midfield and replace Matic, resolve other midfield issues with DvdB and Pogba. It is unclear what is happening with Garner still.


2.) 24 Mar 2022 14:05:20
Hi ed002 can you tell us where the competition is for SMS?
I think you had mentioned juve and inter before?
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (CM) Lazio had no intention of selling unless the player pushed for a move, but the reality of having 10 players out of contract in the summer means they are facing the reality of selling Milinkovic-Savic to fund the changes they wish to make and to free up wages. It would take a huge offer of perhaps €80M to €100M to complete a sale. At that price the interested parties would want to include players in any deal if possible. Inter are effectively priced out of any move. Real Madrid's interest has moved on. PSG will almost certainly make an early offer after failing to sign midfield targets in recent windows. Manchester United provide an option.}


3.) 24 Mar 2022 14:32:16
Brilliant Ed, that's great news.


4.) 24 Mar 2022 14:37:37
Wow, thanks so much for the detailed update! Really appreciated, thank you!


5.) 24 Mar 2022 18:42:51
Rice and anyone else from that list is an excellent window imo.


6.) 24 Mar 2022 16:14:59
Thats for your hard work ED002 and taking the time to compile all that. Appreciated by all posters i'm sure.


7.) 24 Mar 2022 22:11:28
Ed could you please tell us what defenders we are currently after. Thanks.


8.) 25 Mar 2022 07:31:35
Rice is a brilliant player, we'd have to spend a huge amount on him but he's one of those players who just looks like he will be a great signing for anyone. Young enough to still improve, already captain of a good side and provides everything we'd need in a defensive midfielder. He can even play CB if we are short on numbers there at any point. If there is a club who can ruin an almost sure fire top class player it's us though.


9.) 25 Mar 2022 10:29:06
agree rj but for 150 million just look elsewhere.


10.) 25 Mar 2022 13:06:54
Of course West Ham can call the shots but £150m in today's climate which has seen clubs fold and numerous great clubs resorted to free transfers seems optimistic. They'd be knocked down a fair bit but still £100m+ even on a player who could transform our midfield seems too much when we need a fair few players. But it ain't my money and I'm not the FFP police so hey.


11.) 25 Mar 2022 16:25:36
if its true he only wants chelsea and chelsea want him why would chelsea offer more than 50 mill? each month goes by his value is dropping not rising in this scenario.


 

 

19 Mar 2022 15:59:42
Hi Ed002, hope all’s well!

Any truth please in rumours that United have made enquires about Harry Kane (precipitating MP arrival maybe) and have even considered the idea of including players that might tempt Spurs such as Dean Henderson?

Thanks for any response you are able to provide.

Wallace

{Ed002's Note - Harry Kane (S) Manchester City will be back if they cannot signed either of their two preferred choices, but I suspect they can. I expect Manchester United may bite the bullet and make a significant offer, initially including a couple of players and he could move there and join up with Pochettino. Could stay if Spurs make the Champions League.}


1.) 19 Mar 2022 17:44:52
Thank you so much for your time and reply, very informative - thank you.


2.) 19 Mar 2022 18:56:17
Hmm so we really must be getting poch if we are looking at offers for Kane on that basis.


3.) 19 Mar 2022 19:09:13
Do people want Kane? He is a good player but if half of our budget goes to Kane we will not be able to strengthen in key areas.


4.) 19 Mar 2022 19:37:52
Would prefer we looked to a younger striker than kane, i would look at isak. Personally i would look to bring some of the youth players into the squad and also look towards younger players for signings as well build long term like we used too.


5.) 20 Mar 2022 06:58:47
Kane is a great striker who would no doubt improve us. I'm torn on his signing though. On the one hand he is great, has shown over a number of years he will score goals and has developed his game to ensure his link up play is better than most number 9's. On the otherhand, even though there are no such things as transfer budgets, there will be limits that the club will have on spending. How much would signing Kane impact the signing of players for other areas? He would likely not even consider us if not in the CL as well. Despite all that, if the same money was to be spent on Declan Rice I'd probably be more supportive even though it is presenting the same problem just somewhere else on the pitch.

Realistically we need a new back up keeper and starters at right back, centre back, central midfield and striker. That's as a minimum you'd think. Add to that the fact we will have players leaving on frees, some players who are unhappy and those who aren't good enough. We could probably sign 2 or 3 starters for what we would pay for Kane. Is that the better option?


6.) 20 Mar 2022 07:27:28
I don't like Kane, he is 29 and again is onky a short term solution. The costs involved dotn make it worthwhile.


7.) 20 Mar 2022 08:19:22
Take kane in a heartbeat.
If we could get a deal with players like Henderson involved to lesson the outlay it would be great.
But it's all speculation until we know the coach and what comps we are in. I doubt kane will want to come to united without cl football.


8.) 20 Mar 2022 08:41:51
I'd be going for Nunez, Osimhen, David or Isak.


9.) 20 Mar 2022 09:15:16
Kane is clearly a great player and if all players cost the same then you'd sign Kane every time.

The reality though is signing Kane means we probably only get two new first team players this summer.

While Kane's age and injury record must be of concern. While keeping Kane and Ronaldo happy if both stay seems a tough ask.

Personally I don't see us being able to challenge for a title in any serious way for at least 2-3 season's. Kane would be 31-32 by the time we get close to challenging for titles. Will he be able to be fit enough at that age to lead that title charge?

If you offered me Kane and a CDM this summer OR Darwin Nunez, Tchouameni, Raphinha and Arajuo then personally I'd take the second option and strengthen in 4 areas rather than 2.


10.) 20 Mar 2022 10:35:54
Loads leaving, might even get a fee for some (martial, wan bassaka) so a summer of Kane, ruddigar and rice would be just about perfect.


11.) 20 Mar 2022 11:57:29
Seems to be a big obsession with Isak around a lot of clubs pages- but he’s not much of a goalscorer from what I’ve seen?


12.) 20 Mar 2022 12:28:57
Caolan, I agree Isak is an odd sort of striker to get your head around. Quick, strong, tall and technically gifted on the surface he has all the attributes you'd want from a striker.

However, he not anywhere near as good in the air as you'd expect from someone as tall as he is. He also seems to lack that killer instinct that all the top strikers have, that burning desire to score.

No doubt a great player, and someone who can get better and better. However, from what I've seen I don't see a 25-30 goal a season striker and I don't think he'll ever grow into one.


13.) 20 Mar 2022 13:20:47
So it’s going to be Poch isn’t it.

{Ed014's Note - ??


14.) 20 Mar 2022 14:12:07
Kane is exactly the striker that Utd need but I can understand everyone's trepidation in terms of this side needing a great deal more than a centre-forward, and the impact his signing would have on us doing much more.

This summer the entire spine needs strengthening with at least 4 players of first XI quality. for starters, so it depends on the budget and other funds raised from outgoings/ wages.

He's the greatest English striker of this generation. Many of the other mooted alternatives aren't fit to even have a swapsie of him in their Panini sticker albums. But it would be pointless having even Gerd Muller up front if the cheap goals don't stop going in.

Teams are tearing through a paper-thin midfield and not finding it hard to breach the defence.


15.) 20 Mar 2022 14:57:05
Spenno, what does Kane offer that Ronaldo doesn't other than maybe being someone who can be here for 3-4 years?

We need a striker who can bring his teammates into the game rather than take them out of it.

We need a striker who can be fit and on form for ALL of the season rather than 60-70% of it.

We need a striker not just good enough for the next couple of years, but for the next 5-6 years. As quite simply we won't be challenging for the title for at least 2-3 years.

Is that Kane? Very debatable.

My concern with him is that he would cost most of our budget, which means the defence isn't getting sorted and Maguire will likely be a key player for us next season. Or it means we don't get the CDM we need or we try and bring in a cheap shoot and hope kind of signing. Or we don't get a better RB, or we don't get another creative wide player meaning Kane is feeding off of scraps.

Signing Kane probably means we still have big fundamental issues in our team. It means that the rebuild of our squad probably takes a year longer as we have to wait another season longer before we can bring in several key players. If the rebuild goes from 2-3 years to 3-4 years then Kane himself will be 32 instead of 31 by the time we have a squad actually capable of seriously challenging for the title.

With his injury record how many games do you see a 32 year old Kane actually being able to play? By that time would he actually need replacing in order to challenge for titles? If so then what was the point in signing him.


16.) 20 Mar 2022 17:26:38
When was the last time Man Utd signed a young striker? Rooney was it? Tevez, Berba, RvP, Larsen all of them under SAF. Then Ibra etc. All of them success. Why are people bent on signing a youngster?


17.) 20 Mar 2022 18:05:06
Shappy Kane offer a lot more than Ronaldo. He is more of a team player, defend from the front and he plays the Firmino role, he becomes attacking midfielder and create space. His passes are top class too. I would say Kane is a huge upgrade to Ronaldo.
But i agree its a huge ask because one problem is his injury record and the other that he cost a lot of money.


18.) 20 Mar 2022 18:17:58
Have you ever seen Kane play Shappy? That’s total nonsense.


19.) 20 Mar 2022 16:52:34
Well Shappy, you have everything worked out so of course you are right. He was good enough for the best team in the world to offer £150m for him last season, and for his club to reject it.


20.) 20 Mar 2022 19:12:58
Shappy your waffling again mate? you have an opinion so do others.
You don't know the clubs rebuild plan. Your guessing and working on assumptions that only you are making.


21.) 20 Mar 2022 20:53:40
Really don't want Kane at all,
We already have a lot of players who already earn a lot and do no put the hard yards needed.
These heavy outlays on 1 player every season signing has been a massive failure.
I'd rather us sign players likely to become top class, Darwin Nunez is highly rated, or other strikers who look like they are going to make big.
The only player I'd change this strategy for is if Lewandowski is available, who I feel is world class and better than our current Ronaldo.
I hope we try to build teams more than sign individuals who want all the attention centred around them.


22.) 21 Mar 2022 09:42:58
Wow, Kane doesn't bring others into play? Really? Have you seen him play at all?
He would be the best solution there is, as he could both score goals and bring our wings in goal chances.

Since when is 29 old? Jesus. he could easily play for 5 more years. If there is a chance, bring him in.

The other question is, as you said, could we then strengthen other areas enough? If you ask me, bringing someone like Rice or Philips would be enough, as it would help the defence. Kane and Rice would be ideal.

Perhaps we could also sign someone whos contract is expiring?


23.) 21 Mar 2022 16:01:28
Got to agree that if you ignore the potential impact on other signings, Kane is close to perfect. Great goal scorer, and he drops a little deeper to bring others in intelligently (maybe a little too much, but that may just be because he isn't getting enough service at spurs) . I could see players like Rashford and Sancho thriving alongside him.

However, like others I'm concerned that if we get Kane, we won't get the other players we need.

We've needed a CDM for several years now, we need another winger, and realistically a CB. We need at least one striker, likely two. In an ideal world we'd bring in a new first choice RB too.

That's 4-6 players. I'm not confident we'll get all of those anyway, and if we splash out on Kane, I really don't see us getting the other players we need.


24.) 21 Mar 2022 16:03:36
Shappy, one of the best things to watch in the EPL at the minute, is the link-up play between Son and Kane. I used to think he was just a typical big number 9, but he's impressed me with the way he's adapted his game, and his willingness to do so.

{Ed014's Note - pains me to say it but he and Son have been very impressive.


25.) 21 Mar 2022 16:45:45
Kane improved so much since Jose, I don’t get the argument go for young striker because let’s be honest what player stays anywhere 4-5 years or longer nowadays, so better to get the one who is proven if you only have him for 3-4 years anyway instead of hoping the youngster works!


26.) 23 Mar 2022 22:15:57
Weird that the one Ed everyone respects on here thinks Poch would be the ideal choice for us and a different Ed has his fingers crossed that we get him, maybe suggesting he doesn’t agree with the Ed, interesting.


 

 

 

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07 Jun 2022 10:36:13
Hi Ed001,

Sorry to be such an alphabet pedant, but was wondering why, in the drop down menu for clubs, is “Everton” before the “European Rumours”?

Apologies for being such an anorak!

Wallace

{Ed033's Note - the drop down menus aren't in alphabetical order.


 

 

18 May 2022 15:37:20
Rumours today that Kalvin Phillips on shortlist of midfield targets for Man City…. Bet Leeds supporters woukd love that big poke in the eye for United!

Who would be left for Defensive Midfield if he’s taken off the list?

Kamara? (Athletico) Rice? (too expensive this year) Ed says Sangare off elsewhere

Palhinha? Laimer?

Anyone know of any other CDMs that we might be looking at?

Wallace

1.) 18 May 2022 16:35:02
Depending on where you read and how much you believe (or want to believe) Neves, Kante, N'dini, Zaharia have all been mentioned at one point or another. Personally would love Tchouameni at the club but think (and this is not easy to say) he's probably destined for bigger things.


2.) 18 May 2022 18:14:55
That will be a matter for the manager and club to decide.


3.) 19 May 2022 00:03:24
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about Philips. Average player who will be found out in big matches. We have plenty of these. And he's a Leeds fan, so City are welcome to him.


4.) 19 May 2022 09:26:06
Good point Ken, we have no idea what is actually happening behind the scenes. I should have asked for posters’ opinions and circulating rumours about DM targets, not actual facts.


5.) 19 May 2022 16:45:03
From what I can gather through rumours it looks like Phillips and possibly Palhinha seem like the most likely.


 

 

18 May 2022 09:42:20
Just been reading up on Jurrien Timber - and looks like he could be the answer to several of our problem positions:

Centre back

Right back

And….

Defensive Midfield.

It is this last position that I think he has the potential to excel in: great positional awareness, clean tackler, technically skilled and quick at recovery…

No wonder ETH wants him as a first signing.

Wallace

1.) 18 May 2022 11:26:19
I'd be wary of him playing at centre back early on based on his size and potential to deal with the physicality and speed in the Premier League, however, he certainly looks to be an excellent prospect.

His ability to play a couple of position is also something our squad actually needs.


2.) 18 May 2022 11:28:10
I have to admire you Wallace. You have been reading up on him and you think he has a chance of excelling in a position he doesn't play in a weaker league. You have drawn this conclusion without seeing him play in that position also.
If eth does want him the club need to approach ajax not the player. (See rumours page) he could be a good signing but I guess he will play his best position which is cb.


3.) 18 May 2022 11:53:46
Completely agree Ken, playing in the premiership is a whole new ball game.
The Dutch league is absolutely pants.


4.) 18 May 2022 12:20:50
ruud gullit thinks he won't cut it at CB in premiership - not yet anyway. Some Ajax fans think he goes walkabout too, often caught upfield instead of tracking back quick enough. just what I've read.


5.) 18 May 2022 12:23:00
Wallace, whilst I don't think Timber will play anywhere other than as CB should we buy him I do think your comment has merit but more in how EtH appears to play his CB's. High line up the pitch so comfortable on the ball and in the area that a HM would be playing. Able to cover across for the FB as they push forward.
Roles seem to cover multiple areas within EtH's structure.


6.) 18 May 2022 13:53:55
Timber plays well alongside Martinez who is the one who can read a game, Timber isn't ready to strike out and be the man at a big club with responsibility for calling the rubbishs whixh is whatvwe need because neither Maguire or Varane are that. Throwing Timber into our backline in uts current state is a disaster waiting to happen.

Watch Ajax the last two years, Timber is an athlete yes, but his partner is the one who knows what's happening on the pitch.


7.) 18 May 2022 14:07:39
Reasoned response Brad thanks, makes sense what you’re saying.


8.) 18 May 2022 15:25:43
Timber might be a signing for the future. Whose to day he isn't signed and loaned back to Ajax? .

What is certain is that the club needs a top CB who not only has a commanding presence, but can read the game and will equally be suited to playing under EtH and in the EPL.


9.) 18 May 2022 15:26:43
There must be a reason why clubs like Bayern are after Timber.
We ideally need 2 CB's though and move on Bailly, Jones, Maguire.


10.) 18 May 2022 17:18:31
TRD,

Maguire will stay. I'll be shocked if he is sold. As poor as he has been, the club would take a huge loss on him if he were to be sold. I don't think the clubs ego could actually handle that.

However, I can't see many teams actually wanting to sign Maguire either.


11.) 18 May 2022 18:18:19
Wallace, having watched a fair amount of Ajax over the past 5 months I wouldn't say Timber has great positional awareness, in fact I'd say that his reading of the game is the biggest area he needs to improve.

You've noticed his good recovery pace, bit ask yourself if he had great positional awareness then why is he scrambling back to get into position?

He's a a very talented young lad, but he is still quite raw. I wonder if in the EPL he might be best suited to playing on the right of a back three. Or maybe as an inverted right back.

Personally I think he could do with another year in Amsterdam.


12.) 18 May 2022 19:19:42
Hmmm. Poor positional awareness but with the pace to get back and attempt to untangle his mess. we've got one of those at rightback already thanks.


13.) 18 May 2022 19:59:15
Poor timber, not even our player yet or at all and the you tubers have already condemned him to the rubbish skip
All the best ETH, there’s a lot of people who can do your job much much better apparently….


14.) 18 May 2022 21:37:36
Personally I think de ligt should be pursued but I believe he's about yo sign a new contract with Juventus.
Failing that, Botman looks solid and has the experience in a better league.


15.) 18 May 2022 22:35:42
Is this guy not sounding like a AWB?
Good at tackles and positionally bad
Similar height maybe, but he's just better at dribbling.


16.) 18 May 2022 22:49:32
Rohan according to who? Eth knows best don't mind the couch experts on here.


17.) 19 May 2022 16:53:37
I don't think anyone is writing the kid off.

Truth is he's a very talented kid with the ability to get to the very top. The reality is that he is still only 20 years old and has a lot to learn and master yet.

If he signs he will be a player with great potential, but it would be unfair to expect him to come straight in and immediately be world class. He will make mistakes, there are still weaknesses to his game and he will need to adapt to the EPL (which is tougher and less forgiving than the Eredivisie) .

It's not about panning the kid, but about tempering expectations and being fair with where seems to be in his development right now.


 

 

08 May 2022 07:45:44
Awful result yesterday but not surprising really as it’s a culmination of so many bad decisions by a football club that has no idea.

1. Accumulation of a business-focused transfer policy that, instead of a progressive philosophy that everyone in the club is working towards, hoped to drop square pegs into round holes and jyst hope it worked.

2. Awful player recruitment: ie Sweinsteiger, Di Maria, Sanchez, Maguire and Pogba (though I do feel a bit sorry for him as he’s a luxury player who does well in the right structure, which he was never given at United)

Look at recruitment of Liverpool and how buying the right player who immediately fits the system…….

3. Allowing a bloated squad of unmotivated players/ rewarding new contracts…. No wonder no hunger if just collecting pay cheques….

4. Lack of a plan meant each manager was doomed to fail…. How could they hope to achieve anything apart from try to stick off shapes together with sellotape?

5. Appointing RR as a manager: great consultant but no motivational skills plus, due to going in mid-season, had to bring in inexperienced coaches. Loss of Carrick, McKenna etc huge.

6. Again, awful player recruitment and scouting: missing out on Caicedo, Alvarez, Diaz, etc… how come Man City and Zlivrrpool seem to hoover up the best emerging talent? What are these scouts doing? Or don’t they get listened to and the board pursue this misguided idea about fitting in ready made players into a jumbled system… no wonder players seem to decline when they get to United, never improve…

7. Fitness, injuries etc etc Apparently under 23s who’ve come in have been shocked at levels of fitness in senior squad.

I could go on - so many things wrong with the club.

Are they about to change? Who knows, though Ed002 saying that we want an old SMS rather than a young emerging talent who will peak with us suggests they (the club) haven’t learnt a thing. Hope ETH gets a veto on this and is allowed his own signings. Ralf has been rubbish infield but, off it, he’s continually tried to point this out - guess he’s not being listened to…

So just hoping ETH can come in, offer a proper vision and structure, plus some actual coaching and is allowed to remove all the players who don’t fit.

Think it’s a good thing that no CL football will limit our transfer options, otherwise could see the club doing the usual thing and forcing the new manager to accommodate expensive faces rather than bring in younger players who will buy into the project and have the determination to get back into the top 4.

Just can’t wait until the end of the season now.

Wallace

1.) 08 May 2022 10:15:00
Not sure it is City and Liverpool getting great talents, they get players for the system they play who are then coached properly.

United since 2013 embarked on the galactico philosophy as clearly Ed thought that is how football worked. Now hopefully we have a CEO leaves the football side to people who know about football.


 

 

27 Feb 2022 09:21:16
Not getting too 4 not the worst end of season position for United. Might miss out on bigger name signings such as Rice and Tielemans but they’ll be off to Man City and Real Madrid respectively.

Glazers tend to spend more to get back into top 4, will take pressure off the new team/ manager as they work on becoming an effective unit and hopefully Ronaldo will go, a marketing signing now surely past his best, taking his rediculous wages with him.

To be honest, so long as we secure Pochettino or Sporting manager, plus a good DM and Haidara - plus prune squad and bring in the youngsters who are ready to step up, will be relatively happy.

Wallace

1.) 27 Feb 2022 11:23:49
There could be something to be said for "jolting" the club into action.

I'm not convinced they will change all that much, certainly not just because we didn't make top 4 one year.

Maybe they will be willing to spend more money if we don't make top four, maybe they won't. But the reality is that the amount of money we have to spend has never really been the problem. The issue has always been that we spend it poorly.

We seem reluctant to spend a little more to secure the managers top targets, but then seem perfectly happy to over spend on big name players who suit the "brand" and are highly marketable.

While I have been critical that we have players from 5 different managers at our club, we can't even say their was a unity of thought when making signings under any single manager.

All out managers have had previous managers targets foisted on them when they've first walked through the door. Almost like the club doesn't want to feel that the time and money spent scouting those players for the previous manager were wasted. Either that or that or our negotiations are so poor we know we can't change target quickly and it's a case of sign the players we have been working on for months or sign no one before the window closes.

While several managers have had players thrust on them due to the player being good for branding.

Currently we have Cavani who was signed as someone to fill the No.7 shirt last minute after a deal for Sancho fell through. Whether he's been a good signing or not, he was last minute reactive signing and not part of a bigger plan.

We then extend his deal, only to sign Ronaldo because he became available and would be excellent for marketing. Even forcing Cavani to give up his shirt number.

Personally as much as I love Ronaldo, I feel his signing has destabilised the team more than any other signing I can remember. I'm not saying that is Ronaldo's fault btw, just that his signing wasn't planned or thought out.

It now seems that he has drained the confidence of many of our forward players, who seem unable to live in his shadow. Rashford and Bruno who were out best two attacking players look like a shadow of their former selves. Martial just jumped ship, Cavani seems to be ringing it in for most of the season. Obviously what happened with Greenwood is totally separate. The only forward player who doesn't seem to have been impacted by Ronaldo's arrival is Elanga and maybe that is because he didn't have a place in the team before Ronaldo came. So maybe he doesn't feel like he's been overshadowed, or shunted aside.

Before Ronaldo returned we were scoring an average of 2.4 goals from 11 chances a game.

Since he has arrived we have dropped down to 1.3 goals from 18 chances a game.

Just let that sink in, from an EXTRA 7 chances a game we are scoring OVER a goal less per game.

Maybe not getting top four and Ronaldo leaving means the team can refocus and starting building for the future.

Look at Arsenal, letting players like Cech, Koscielny, Chambers, Bellerin, Guendouzi, Iwobi, David Luiz, Kolasinac, and Aubameyang all leave over the last two summers.

Cutting away the big name, and experienced players and replacing them with younger, hungrier players like Gabriel, White, Ramsdale, Lokonga, Partey, Tomiyasu, Tierney, Martinelli and Odegaard, along with bringing through the likes of Saka and Smith-Rowe from their academy.

Players who suited the style the manager wanted, players who while not big names worked as part of the team.

Would Arsenal have been brave enough to move on their top earning big name players if they kept scraping top four every year? Was it necessity? Could they not afford to keep those players long term without top four. Or did they just decide to try a different approach after years of little on field success under their previous approach.

I'm not sure, but maybe if we don't get top four we might look to actually start to rebuild rather than limp on, content enough as long as have the high social media engagement that enables us to levy large sponsorship deals from new partners.


2.) 27 Feb 2022 12:10:18
Arsenal have chosen a bright young manager in Arteta who had a fantastic learning curve as assistant to Pep. We need a similarly bright manager willing to confront players who under perform and jettison those who do not fit his system regardless of their reputation or marketing influence or how much they cost when bought.

Allied to that will be a need to bring in the type of players we all know we lack (defensive Midfielder for instance) and players who are leaders. For all their faults the Glazers have sanctioned a huge amount on purchases. It's about time the money was spent well not wasted and they will know they have to spend again if Utd are to get back to the top table.


3.) 27 Feb 2022 12:10:32
Whats the statistical definition of a chance in those numbers Shappy?


4.) 27 Feb 2022 12:10:48
Thanks for reply Shappy - you’re always good enough to give a detailed response to any posts I offer.


5.) 27 Feb 2022 12:13:17
I don't think missing out on top 4 need be seen as a death knell, although for me personally nothing compares to the buzz of watching Utd in a big CL tie. Historically the club has still made top signings in 'off' seasons, including making Pogba their record signing.
I'm not a fan of the EL personally, I find it hard to get as excited for the games on a thursday night then see Utd playing on a lot more sundays. But there is of course the chance of a double-assault on qualifying for the next season's CL by winning it which is a good incentive. Mourinho went on to do just that.
As an aside, I wonder who the next player will be who Utd break their transfer record on? If not Rice then I can't see it for a few seasons, so chances are it's some skinny teenager somewhere yet to break onto the scene. Pellistri probably in 5 years after he walks away. Sounds like the kind of thing we'd do.


6.) 27 Feb 2022 12:40:54
Ahh shappy, that’s the nicest thing you have ever said about the Arsenal

Love you too mate.


7.) 27 Feb 2022 12:57:56
Malaga, I think it was the right decision by Arsenal. They had a plan and they are making it work.

Loads of people laughed at Arteta, many thought at one point he'd soon be sacked. But the club knew what they were doing and what they wanted. They rode it out and if Arsenal get top four this year then it proves that they were right.

The thing is with this Arsenal side is that it's 2-3 years away from peaking. Add a few more good quality signings in that time and they should be able to seriously challenge for titles within the next few years.

The key now is staying firm and not allowing other sides to come in and sign up your best players.


8.) 27 Feb 2022 13:25:53
All valid points in til you used Arsenal as a beacon of how to do things.

The club is as big a farce as ours behind the scenes, the fans wanted Arteta out not more than 3-4 months ago, and they are experts at winning the “top 4” trophy we derise so much.

The only clubs we should be looking at are City and Liverpool who have the right structures in place and seem to efficiently scout and then buy payers with minimal fuss and bed then in seamlessly.


9.) 27 Feb 2022 13:40:08
Wallace, I'm sorry, but we are lagging miles behind City, Liverpool and Chelsea, we need to have a plan but that plan has to include buying generational talents such as Rice, if they are available. He's a player we need desperately, so if he chooses City or Chelsea and we get a second rate alternative such as Haidara, then we might as well give up.
United have always promoted youth but they've also bought big. The only difference we've seen since the Glazers came in, is that the purchases have been vanity purchases rather than footballing purchases.
As long as the owners force these money making purchases on the managers, we will be going backwards.
Cavani, Ronaldo, pogba, lingard, Jones, bailly, Awb, Shaw, matic, mata, all need to be sold. Unfortunately, our club will dither and half of these will still be here in August.
It's a disaster if we miss out on CL qualification, the Europa Cup is a poor substitute and a major distraction, footballing wise.
I like what RR is doing, my only question is since Ronaldo has lost form, Cavani always injured, surely some of our U23 strikers should be given a runout. McNeill has had an injury, but he's back and he has an eye for goal. So, what have we got to lose?


10.) 27 Feb 2022 14:08:29
Eric, I could have used City or Liverpool as the example, but you'd have to go back a lot longer to see how they implemented what they have now. Arsenal are the most recent example of a club choosing a long term rebuild over a wham bam quick fix that never really solves the issues, just papers over the cracks.

Will Arsenal be a long term success who knows, but they are/ have been doing all the things we want to see from our club.

1. Kick out the pretenders, and those with poor attitudes.

2. Bring in a younger progressive manager.

3. Play good, offensive, entertaining football.

4. Develop our players and bring through some kids from the academy.

5. Sign players that fit the club ethos, and suit the managers style.

That's what Arsenal have been doing the last couple of years, and isn't that what we want from our club?

We might disagree with which manager is chosen, which players are let go, which players get given chances, which players we sign, or even what we consider "entertaining" football.

But that doesn't mean we are right or wrong.

I remember we all laughed at Arsenal signing Ben White and Aaron Ramsdale last summer. If Arsenal pip us to 4th place with them two playing key roles then who'll be laughing come the summer?

We laugh at other clubs not signing big name players, while complaining that we only sign big name players and we need better signings that suit what we need.

Arsenal have done a good job rebuilding the squad, and are now only just starting to reap the rewards.

Their best players are under 23 or 24 years old and should only get better. If they can sign a top class striker and a midfield reinforcement then they will have a very good team.


11.) 27 Feb 2022 16:17:07
They’ve been saying that about Arsenal for 10 years Shappy. If they bought xyz, then they’d challenge etc - same every season. they’re a mess internally in terms of structure just like we are. Their best players will, like at Spurs, eventually get fed up of fighting for 4/ 5th and move on rightly so.

Paint it how you want, but Arsenal are not the way to do things no more than we are.

It’s no coincidence that City and Liverpool are the best clubs in the country by a mile, simply because they’re the best run. Why we don’t learn a few things from them is beyond me.


12.) 27 Feb 2022 16:46:10
Salford, the issue is probably less about finding a manager that will

"confront players who under perform and jettison those who do not fit his system regardless of their reputation or marketing influence or how much they cost when bought. "

And much more about whether our club will back and support the manager in those decisions, or whether they'll wring their hands and say "we can't get rid of this player because. " he cost too much and we don't want to make a loss, has too big a social media following, because sponsors want to use him in their advertising campaigns etc.

DSG, it's simply shots per game. Not the best method admittedly as that doesn't factor in quality of chances. Without checking I'm pretty sure our xG per game has increased since Ralf took over, while goals per game is down. Which again would suggest it's the players missing chances rather than playing a style that doesn't produce enough chances.

Wallace, no worries at all, I always enjoy a reasoned debate.

Spenno, I hate watching Europa League, it's such an anticlimax.

However, would you be prepared to go two years without UCL football if it meant we had a serious chance of challenging for titles and major honours in 3-4 years time?

Or would you rather us get UCL football every other year or even every year, but be miles away from challenging and just pipping 4th place every year?

I don't want to be in the UCL just to be in it, I want us to have a serious chance of winning EVERY competition we enter. I'm now at the point that I would be prepared to make a short term sacrifice in order to have a real long term hope of success.


 

 

 

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So wonder who will be captain now then?

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Copied and pasted from previous Ed002 notes (again, thanks Ed002)

Ed002's Note - Lautaro Martinez but that won't happen. Hugo Ekitike and that won't happen. Youssef En-Nesyri but it makes no sense. Patrik Schick but he won't be moving. Martin Terrier is a versatile option. Dominic Calvert-Lewin makes sense. Alexander Isak is looking to move elsewhere. Harry Kane - don't rule out an approach if Nunez doesn't happen. Nkunku but he may well be heading elsewhere. }.

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Might need one now if reports are true about Ronaldo wanting to leave.

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To be really cynical, wouldn’t surprise me if loads gets announced tomorrow to bury the news of the Glazer’s dividends.

Thanks to Ed002 as always for honest updates tho.

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Highly recommend Muppetiers on YouTube

Sounds a bit like Shaggy from Scooby Doo tho.

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Mixed feelings about him leaving:

Huge wages and stifled tactical flexibility

Vs

No other striker.

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29 Jun 2022 09:24:00
Thinking about the first team squad, just so many players going to be available or contention, particularly thinking about younger players such as Garnacho, Alvarez, mejbri, Levitt, Galbraith, SavGe, fish etc etc (not to mention McNeill Hugill etc, plus really exciting younger teams who are meant to be even better)

Maybe United will use the loan system to better effect now like Chelsea have done so well to blood the top talents and make money on others who deemed best to move on.

As side note, competition for too 4 (and top 6) going to be really intense this year, what with big 6 plus Newcastle, Villa, West Ham and Leicester in the mix.

Can’t wait!

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Oops! Forgot about Ronald’s!

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29 Jun 2022 07:30:42
If rumours about imminent bid for Martínez are to be believed, then first 11 could possibly be:

De Gea

Dalot
Varane
Maguire
Shaw/ Malacia

Martinez DM
FDJ
Fred/ Garner/ Erickson

Sancho
Rashford
Bruno

Subs:

Martial
Garnacho
McTominay
Wan Bissaka
VDBeek
Elanga
Pellistri/ Amad.

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21 Jun 2022 07:33:46
Agree Bolger - both will go by end of next season.

Henderson to Forest on loan will allow him to play regularly and hopefully recover some of his value for a sale while the club have other priorities away from GK this year so makes sense to give DDG another year then sell after hopefully some improvement after coaching/ ETH system etc

Then get Sanchez in from Brighton

So long as they don’t offer DDG another contract tho.

Wallace