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05 Jul 2021 07:28:34
Twitter, that ever reliable source, going wild with rumours about Camavinga today: United apparently in talks and fee of £30m mooted!

Yep, if it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. Plus can imagine PSG, Bayern, Real etc would be very interested also,

But if remotely true, shows what an effective DoF can do - and all the opportunities missed in the past because of the clunky and beurocratic one at a time system.

Wallace

1.) 05 Jul 2021 07:54:07
It's all coming from one source though, Fabrizio Romano, who is quite often on the ball when it comes to deals. Did mention that PSG are interested, but it sounds like United are in advanced talks with a fee more or less set as Rennes want to cash in before he becomes a free agent.


2.) 05 Jul 2021 08:11:38
Hi Ed002,
Will Camavinga be a Pogba/ Van De Beek replacement or for Matic?

{Ed002's Note - He would be a cross between NM and PP.}


3.) 05 Jul 2021 08:36:47
The question though would be if he would get any game time under Ole. And whether the player would be happy having a limited role in the first team?

Would Ole trust an 18yr old in his midfield?


4.) 05 Jul 2021 09:29:18
Ed, are the club now making a serious attempt to sign the player?

{Ed002's Note - There is plenty of interest in him.}


5.) 05 Jul 2021 09:41:28
Good signing if it happens, PSG would be a threat though if they made a move for him.


6.) 05 Jul 2021 09:44:23
Thanks Ed. Sounds like Pogba is heading off….

{Ed002's Note - To where?}


7.) 05 Jul 2021 09:58:35
Pogba to PSG?


8.) 05 Jul 2021 10:03:39
Maybe Donny is off, Pogba stays, Bruno, Pogba, Camavinga midfield 3.


9.) 05 Jul 2021 10:09:23
Pogba to PSG is unlikely as he's stared several times he'd be unwilling to move there out of respect for his father who was a Marseille supporter.


10.) 05 Jul 2021 10:11:31
Rennes like many French clubs have been hit hard financially by the circumstances of the past 18 months.

While Camavinga in January would be free to sign a pre-contract with a club outside of France.

They are up against the wall so to speak, they can't afford to lose him for nothing as he's probably their biggest playing asset. But they can't demand the sort of fee he would normally command under different circumstances.

Apparently he would rather remain in France for another couple of years, which personally I think would be best for him. He's young and he needs to be playing 90 minutes of top level football every week to continue to develop.

We have seen a few youngsters move to massive club's a little too early in their careers only do see their development stall as they don't get enough football.

I'd imagine he would need some convincing to join us at this stage in his career.

As for what sort of player is he, well he's everything you'd want Fred to be. A hard working but technically gifted player who is as comfortable playing accurate 50 yard passes as he is sticking his foot in. Good in possession and aggressive out of it.


11.) 05 Jul 2021 10:26:45
Still think it very unlikely we sign Camavinga but I'd be delighted. He's Pogba with a bit of discipline in his game who doesn't need everyone else to do cover his faults.

I'd guess it'd spell the end for Donny if he signed though.


12.) 05 Jul 2021 11:36:51
If this is true and we do, however unlikely, sign Camavinga, it would be a clever move by United:

If Pogba is intent on seeing out his contract and getting him and Mino a huge signing on fee, (most likely I think) then Pogba can be Camavinga mentor for a year to ease him into the first team, where he will then replace Pogba.

Also sends a message to Mini that they will not be held hostage to his demands and sorting Pogba out at last minute as they will have signed his replacement - stay if you want Pogba, situation sorted either way.

United might also be using the prospect of Varane to tempt him also.


13.) 05 Jul 2021 11:52:15
I have a feeling Pogba will be leaving from free next year.


14.) 05 Jul 2021 14:42:23
I bet Camavinga can't wait to be mentored by Pogba on on how to perform silly TikTok dances. How do do silly arm and hand celebrations. What hair colours / styles to have during the season.


15.) 05 Jul 2021 14:56:13
The question should be, is he someone Ole wants or someone the club wants?

No point in buying the kid if our manager has no interest in playing him.


16.) 05 Jul 2021 17:20:50
Well. That went 0 to 100 very quickly😏.


17.) 05 Jul 2021 17:38:49
So Camavinga is more a replacement for Fred and Pogba would move to the left instead of Rashford.


18.) 05 Jul 2021 18:03:31
Maybe Camavinga should follow the route of Dortmund?


19.) 05 Jul 2021 18:44:05
Ed002in regards to pogba

Psg Ed? The highest profile french player possible?

{Ed002's Note - Paul Pogba (CM) offered to Barcelona - may be available as a Free Agent in 2022 - Manchester United have wrecked the relationship with his agent. I doubt that the club would meet any demands which Mino Raiola would want to agree a new contract. They have extended his contract to 2022 and will need to strike a deal with Mino over any sale this summer (I am sure he would be open to taking, say, half of the sale fee) and hope a buyer can be found - this will need to be through a third party. PSG are in discussions to add two MF players but know that at least one of their targets is heading elsewhere. I don't think paying a significant fee for the hostage is part of their plans right now but if something can be done at a reasonable price they do provide an option - don't lose sight of them as a new employer as they are likely the most realistic option - even if they wait until 2022 and take him as a Free Agent. Real Madrid have a preferred target although Zidane would have liked Pogba. Pogba has made it clear he really wants Real Madrid to be his next destination but again the relationship between some in Madrid and Mino is not great. Juventus have other priorities in CM but there have been general talks and he might be a realistic option at the right price - but Juventus would look to including a player in the deal (Federico Bernardeschi) which would be great but he is also represented by Mino who the amateurs don't want to deal with. Juventus have a significant financial advantage due to tax laws in Italy and others departing but are planning on others and won't want to put the funds up for Pogba but at the right price could be tempted. Regardless, Juventus have other targets who would be way ahead of him on their list. So they too don't appear to be an option.}


20.) 05 Jul 2021 18:44:05
Ed002in regards to pogba

Psg Ed? The highest profile french player possible?

{Ed002's Note - Paul Pogba (CM) offered to Barcelona - may be available as a Free Agent in 2022 - Manchester United have wrecked the relationship with his agent. I doubt that the club would meet any demands which Mino Raiola would want to agree a new contract. They have extended his contract to 2022 and will need to strike a deal with Mino over any sale this summer (I am sure he would be open to taking, say, half of the sale fee) and hope a buyer can be found - this will need to be through a third party. PSG are in discussions to add two MF players but know that at least one of their targets is heading elsewhere. I don't think paying a significant fee for the hostage is part of their plans right now but if something can be done at a reasonable price they do provide an option - don't lose sight of them as a new employer as they are likely the most realistic option - even if they wait until 2022 and take him as a Free Agent. Real Madrid have a preferred target although Zidane would have liked Pogba. Pogba has made it clear he really wants Real Madrid to be his next destination but again the relationship between some in Madrid and Mino is not great. Juventus have other priorities in CM but there have been general talks and he might be a realistic option at the right price - but Juventus would look to including a player in the deal (Federico Bernardeschi) which would be great but he is also represented by Mino who the amateurs don't want to deal with. Juventus have a significant financial advantage due to tax laws in Italy and others departing but are planning on others and won't want to put the funds up for Pogba but at the right price could be tempted. Regardless, Juventus have other targets who would be way ahead of him on their list. So they too don't appear to be an option.}


21.) 05 Jul 2021 19:50:20
Cheers Ed. I hope we are sensible with price (my guess €50m? ) as its best for both parties if he moves on. We also have Van De Beek, and it might leave us less competition for, the player this thread was about, camavinga who would both cover his loss.


22.) 05 Jul 2021 21:02:32
Hostage 😂.


23.) 05 Jul 2021 21:56:58
If you were Pogba and wanted to play abroad and knew that next year could do so via a free transfer to a top club and pocket a huge signing fee plus huge wages would you not do so?

He is typical of most modern day footballers who want to play, win things, have a nice lifestyle and maximise their earnings in a short career which is always only one bad injury from being finished.

Allegiance to one club is rare and will increasingly be so. As long as whoever plays gives their all for the team when on the pitch and are not criminals or idiots off it then its something I have to accept.

The other thing to note is the lack of really charismatic managers in Europe not just England. I am talking about managers who make a player want to come to their club and play their hearts out. Apart from Klopp and Pep in our leagues who else is really like that. Abroad maybe Conte and Simeone but that's all. In Scotland Gerrard is that type of manager and in time looks likely to be so at Liverpool.

Such managers make a big difference. With due respect to Ole he is no managerial heavyweight so again it is no surprise he cannot inspire a player like Pogba to stay and sign a long term contract.


24.) 05 Jul 2021 23:19:07
Pogba stays for his final year then goes on a free. Can’t see anyone bidding for him at any amount we’d be happy with given we can’t profiteer from the extended year and would have to share a big chunk with Raiola / Pogba. And they can get a juicy signing on fee regardless next summer.

Van de Beek the interesting one for me. Clearly he looks outward bound too but suspect he was bought when we expected Pogba to go and Sancho to join last season.

Suspect Pogba stays, VDB goes and then turns into a worldie for someone else!


25.) 08 Jul 2021 17:29:56
You could make quite a team from players who contracts expire in 2022. Mbappe, Pogba, Varane, Goretzka, Camavinga, Ronaldo, Dybala.
To me that looks like a Madrid team in waiting and all for no transfer fee.


 

 

04 Jul 2021 09:16:56
Looks like Mutough and Fletcher having a blinding window:

(RUMOURS obviously - will leave facts to the wonderful Ed002)

Sancho hopefully done

Varane really wanted

Dan James to Brighton
Donny to Real Madrid (loan or buy)
Bailey to Villareal
Lingard to West Ham
Martial for sale
Pogba to PSG or Juventus

Hopefully free up funds for Trippier and Camavinga

Loans for Garner, Amad, Pelliatr, Shoretire, Elanga and Mengi.

Wallace

1.) 04 Jul 2021 09:32:58
Since they were appointed I have always wondered what exactly the roles of Murtagh and Fletcher are and who is responsible for what. I have an idea of what they do in my head but truthfully it's difficult to whine about them when I am not really sure who does what!


2.) 04 Jul 2021 09:25:05
Wallace,

ED002 has said Camavinga won't be joining Utd.


3.) 04 Jul 2021 10:12:25
Can see Varane and Trippier coming in, can't see a CM unless significant sales are made.


4.) 04 Jul 2021 13:30:53
We will see if PSG will acquire both Pogba and Camavinga if that's the case.


5.) 04 Jul 2021 13:42:45
What’s the point in signing trippier? We have AWB and trippier will want to be starting most games. Makes 0 sense to me.


6.) 04 Jul 2021 16:12:39
Whiskey,

Because exactly that, we only have AWB, why do city have Walker and cancelo? Because they have a lot of games.


7.) 04 Jul 2021 16:58:09
Cancelo covers left back, Kyle walkers played CB. Hence why they can manage the two of them. I see no reason to sign a starting level right back. We have far more pressing issues. CB and DM. A second right back when we still have dalot and Williams on the books is just a waste of money. And even moreso the rumours that atletico want 30-40 million for Trippier. That sort of money could be reinvested in positions we actually need.


8.) 04 Jul 2021 20:04:29
All the rumours and moves look good on face value but I will reserve judgement until the window is closed.

Judging them on who they can move on will be a key measure for me.

Sancho and Varane would be an A grade window on incomings.


9.) 05 Jul 2021 06:26:59
Romano has just posted about negotiations progressing for Camavinga with a €30 price tag.


10.) 05 Jul 2021 08:40:42
Telles needs a partner on the bench and Trippier makes sense.


11.) 05 Jul 2021 16:24:01
Whiskey,

We need 2 full teams to be able to compete, that’s what city have and if we want to do well in all competitions we need players who can cover all over the pitch.

Nobody was complaining when we had 4 strikers in 99, in fact it’s the main reason we managed to do so well managing the game time, AWB can’t play every game and competition in the squad is perfect.

{Ed014's Note - it makes perfect sense to upgrade both your starting and 2nd 11. Albeit you want the 2nd 11 to be constantly pushing for a first team spot.

In essence you don’t want a huge drop off in quality between the two. Liverpool paid that price last season.


12.) 06 Jul 2021 11:11:26
Totally agree Ed14

Whiskey mentioned we have Dalot and Williams on the books but I am guessing neither of them will be at the club this season, definitely not if we signed a right back to challenge AWB.

{Ed014's Note - Trippier would be a great backup for AWB for me. That is a definitive improvement.


 

 

20 May 2021 17:04:53
Hi Ed002 if you’re not too busy, a few reports are surfacing that Mourinho/ Roma interested in buying Matic.

Scurrilous click-bait or do they have foundation?

(Also, if he does go, will this bring forward United’s search for a DM? )

Thanks for any answer.

Wallace

{Ed002's Note - Nemanja Matic (DM) Jose Mourinho would like to take him to Rome with him but he will not be first choice - although the first choice is not looking to be attainable - and there may be some reliance on the sale of Amadou Diawara and Manchester United, who gave him a new contract, being willing to sell him at a reasonable price. If he leaves Manchester United would look to replace him as they don't plan for the careers of players like James Garner.}


1.) 20 May 2021 22:18:33
Any chance of a sharkopod any time soon Ed?

{Ed002's Note - It won’t be like that this year - Sparky is working on the music and there will be a few hints about transfers interspersed. In the coming weeks.}


2.) 20 May 2021 22:22:53
Thank you so much for the detailed information Ed002.

Really disappointed to hear Garner not in United thoughts for the future. Given his promising appearances at Forest, you’d think they’d at least give him a pre-season to see iif he can be used next season.

Or at least would’ve hoped they could find a short term solution for another year to give him another season to get ready for the first team.

Very disappointed - thought Solskar compared him to Carrick.


3.) 21 May 2021 08:00:17
Wallace,

The club appears to prefer to spend vast amounts of money on players with bug names rather than give a youngster a chance.

I think Garner would do well at the club. It is understandable why a few youngsters have refused to sign new contracts and leave. I think with Mata likely leaving and if Matic could be sold, then Garner would deserve a shot at first team football.

However, as ED002 has often said. Utd currently don't plan a path through for the first team for a lot of youngsters.


4.) 21 May 2021 09:20:44
Garner looks a great prospect and has really kicked on since his move to Forest.

What that highlights for me is just how important regular game time is for the development is young players at that age.

Personally I think Garner needs one more season out on loan, playing every week and developing quickly. The key is that he must play every week.

Coming back to United or even going on loan somewhere else where he'll play once or twice a month is pointless and would actually stall his progression.

We saw this with Gomes, hugely talented but just didn't play enough games and sadly looks like he won't fulfil his early potential.

I think coming back for pre-season with us would be good, get to see how he has progressed and get a closer look at him. Then probably send him back out to Forest for next season.

If it was me I'd loan Garner out next season, move Matic on and bring in someone like Rice. A true holding midfielder who can carry the defensive burden. Then in the summer of 2022 I'd move on Fred and replace him in the squad with Garner.


5.) 21 May 2021 11:34:12
Sounds far too sensible Shappy.


6.) 21 May 2021 13:04:49
It's a shame Fulham went down. They try and play football and that would be a good loan for Garner to get Premier League experience too. Think Premier League is where he needs a loan to next, not sure what club would offer him that good experience and play in a way that would support his development. Maybe Norwich? Don't know much about them this season? Brighton potentially but would they risk a youngster to play regularly?


7.) 21 May 2021 13:09:49
A loan to Brighton would be good. Graham Potter has Beighton playing some good football.

I also agree that it would be pointless for Garner to come back and play once a month, where his development would stagnate.

Williams should have been loaned in January and certainly needs a loan move this summer.


8.) 21 May 2021 14:36:16
A loan to either Fulham or Brighton for me would need to have a clause about playing time.

My concern would be that a club either fighting relegation or for promotion are less likely to place that trust in a young player. Especially one they don't have any investment or stake in.

Think of it from Potters view. He could play Garner most weeks for Brighton, but if they get relegated then what have they gained? They are in the championship and United have a player who has developed.

It only makes sense to loan him out to a club like Brighton if he is clearly better than the players they have and will start most weeks. If they hold on to Bissouma then that definitely won't be the case.


9.) 21 May 2021 14:57:09
I think the kid Caicedo that they signed has been brought in to be the replacement for Bissouma anyway.


10.) 21 May 2021 17:18:38
I think a loan to Brighton would be good for Garner, to fill the void left by Yves Bissouma coming to Manchester United.


11.) 22 May 2021 11:20:00
Think he should go to Norwich, and Gomes did not do too bad this past season. 30 appearances, 6 goals and 6 assists. Will be good to see how he progresses next season.


 

 

01 Apr 2020 15:05:14
Hi Ed002,

Hope you’re staying well and using your Gentleman Adventurer skulls to keep yourself busy during lockdown.

A few days ago, you kindly replied to my post about Juventus offering players in any Pogba deal. Media outlets of various repute are speculating that De Light might be used in a deal to take Pogba to Juventus. Would Juventus be prepared to include MDlL in any deal and would he actually want to leave and come to United?

Thanks again

Wallace.

Wallace

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any offer of MdL to Manchester United by Juventus. He has had a difficult start but has been growing in to his role at Juventus and I am not sure that he would be open to what would be a significant step down for him.}


1.) 01 Apr 2020 15:23:26
Wow, that was such a quick reply, thank you!

Bitter pill to swallow about being a step down at the moment but hopefully won’t take us long to remedy that.

Thanks for all info, gratefully received!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 01 Apr 2020 16:30:16
Its not really a step down though is it Manchester united will always be a bigger team than Juventus. Sure they're winning the league every year but haven't done it in europe for a number of years. I'm sure with the team we seem to be building United will be back in the champions league and competing for the top honours.


3.) 01 Apr 2020 18:51:11
In footballing terms man utd is a step down. they are not close to competing with solskjaer and won't for years to come under current leadership. Juventus took over Utd a while ago, and they are 1 of the few legendary european sides with utd so even if utd were at the top it would always be a sideways move rather than up to utd.


4.) 01 Apr 2020 22:02:54
How young are you?


5.) 02 Apr 2020 05:08:28
How does being young or old have anything to do with this?

De Ligt plays for a team that is challenging for titles in italy and europe, even if you are optimistic utd are atleast 2-3 years away from challenging for epl and then will need further investment to challenge for CL alongside the league.

For any player going from city, Juventus, Barcelona, madrid and psg to utd will be a step down. That's the reality of things, accept it don't be like liverpool fans going on and on about historical greatness of the club, that means zilch to a player, he isn't going to be playing for fergie's utd.


6.) 02 Apr 2020 22:50:05
Nelly when asking somebody something it would be best to add their name.


7.) 03 Apr 2020 14:52:37
I was referring to you danjames as I'm at an age where it doesn't matter what we do on the football pitch. It's the club and what it represents to me and that means no club is bigger or better than Manchester United. Also I'm of the opinion we've turned a corner and are now heading in the right direction.

Ole may or may not be the manager to get us actually winning things but as a club I believe we'll be in a better place than with previous managers with a younger and more vibrant team. With our recent signings including ighalo and most notably bruno our play has also improved. Other signings will only improve us further.


8.) 03 Apr 2020 21:55:44
For me Juve have only been bigger than Utd in the mid 80’s. At this moment only just. Yes they’re romping there league every year but come on it’s a Mickey Mouse league. With one of our worst sides in the last 30 years we turned them over at their place.


9.) 05 Apr 2020 10:00:35
At the moment the Ed is correct. Between Busby and SAF United fans kept saying we were relevant, a big club, when we were historically big but inconsequential where it mattered. Liverpool were the same for nearly 30 years. Now we are kidding ourselves again. We are irrelevant where it matters in the league and in Europe. We have a manager that has no one convinced, doesn’t have the know how to challenge or make the club relevant. We wallow in sentiment, dewy eyed about history but not able to look at reality of our situation. We have an amateur set up with the focus on finance not football. We have huge debts and will no doubt see a huge loss of income to service them. At the moment we are not at Juventus‘s level. If the league doesn’t finish and unless there is a major change I can’t see it, there will be a large financial hole and trap awaiting us. Maybe the huge debt we have just became an even bigger problem that might wake some up.

We think because of history that we are as big or bigger than Juventus, folly and emotional tosh. A giant club would not have been so amateur over the last 7 years, it wouldn’t have been so sentimental in its decision making. If we are struggling to attract a Birmingham youth to play for our club and OGS, what gives anyone the idea that MDL, who isn’t involved in the sentimental claptrap, will want to take a step down because that is what it would be until we wake up.


10.) 05 Apr 2020 21:55:48
In the years we have been apparently irrelevant we have won a league cup, f.a. cup and europa league while playing absolute tosh with past it managers. We now have a manager who has Manchester united's best interest at heart and though he may win nothing we were more or less in the quarter finals of the europa league same with the f.a cup.

Ok we may have not won those competitions but progress on the team and playing style is there for all to see. Rome wasn't built in a day. Lampard or arteta are not having the same being said about their lack of experience at the top level.

Pep guardiola has lost about 7 games in the league and lauded as the best their is solskjaer has beaten him 3 times this season. Imagine him with the team he wants in his head with the same drive. green shoots are there for all to see. I'm beginning to believe as I was solskjaer out. Now I'm patient.


 

 

29 Jan 2020 11:41:58
Hi Ed002,

I appreciate this is a speculative question about United’s future transfers and, despite your superhuman knowledge of the football world, you don’t Have a crystal ball but, if Fernandes does sign for us (as an attacking midfielder presumably), would United still be looking to sign a similar AM such as Maddison or Grealish in the Summer, or is that position now taken and they’ll focus on other areas of the midfield, such as a defensive midfielder?

Thanks for any info you might have!

Wallace

{Ed002's Note - Assuming he signs that removes the need for Maddison or any other AM.}


1.) 29 Jan 2020 15:12:30
Thanks as always for your time Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


2.) 29 Jan 2020 18:23:11
Exactly ed, now we move for b2b and defensive mids 👍.


 

 

 

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04 Jun 2021 08:21:26
Would recommend a read of the hugely detailed transfer summary on the Man City page: amazing detail by Ed002.

Wallace

1.) 04 Jun 2021 09:09:14
In Ed we trust…. and I don’t mean Woodward 🤣.


2.) 04 Jun 2021 09:32:53
Sounds like there are more supporters on the City page than attend the Emptyhad 😂.


 

 

02 Jun 2021 12:47:14
Reading twatter and other sites, looks like consensus between “ITK” (only listen to Ed002 for credible info) journalists regarding United signing Sancho is that they want him but, as always, the muppets in charge (businessmen not football people) are playing ganes with Dortmund again:they know BD need funds to buy players so, the longer they wait, tbe more desperate BD will be and will look to get JS cheaper.

Prepare for a long Summer.

Wallace

1.) 02 Jun 2021 13:03:05
We have a history of this and it hasn't worked out once. We consistently try and play hard ball and waste time, only to end up paying exactly what the club wants.


2.) 02 Jun 2021 13:22:06
another summer of chasing 1 player to buy someone the manager doesn't want again.


3.) 02 Jun 2021 13:48:11
These amateurs never learn.
We keep dragging these negotiations, bully the clubs and eventually pay up.
Or end with 7th or 8th choice.

With Maguire, we ended up paying world record fee for a CB.
With Wan Bissaka again, we ended up paying world record fee for a fullback.

The quicker we recruit, the players will settle down and gel and be ready for the pre-season.


4.) 02 Jun 2021 15:56:37
We also have a history of believing everything the ITK's tell us about things, spending the whole summer believing a player is 'exactly what we need' and then being annoyed when the club don't spend £120m to sign him.

I know this is a rumour site so there will be lots of rumours but there is no point moaning about what the club does before it happens, we know we aren't the best in the market but we will generally get a few players in, some people will agree with some they won't, and we will not sign around 200 players that we are linked with between now and September.


5.) 02 Jun 2021 16:48:49
Does the manager not want sancho?
I sort of agree with gds2 in as much as we will be linked with lots of players that there is no truth in at all.
A new structure was out in place so we can only hope that they have the autonomy to get the deals over the line. But if they are just new faces implementing old policy and strategy then it's pointless.
Its the usual wait and see game ed002 will keep us informed and is the most reliable source open to most of us.
I don't get excited or expectant on any rumour unless its confirmed here.
I read a lot of the clickbait myself its always good for a laugh.
Its a pity we aren't All talking about finding a new coach instead of players. With Palace wolves spurs Everton all looking for new managers it will be an interesting start to next season to see who hits the ground running.


6.) 02 Jun 2021 17:28:39
The club must deliver 1st or 2nd choice signings.
Last summer we recruited Cavani, Telles, VDB, Pellistri and Diallo.

But the manager used only Cavani. (Even Cavani was a panic buy imo)

Let's hope we recruit better this time with the new personnels involved (Fletcher and Murtough.


7.) 02 Jun 2021 20:26:39
In the words of the immortal Ed02. I WOULDN'T HOLD YOUR BREATH!


 

 

30 Apr 2021 08:26:35
Did anyone watch the Villareal Arsenal game (highlights? ) yesterday?

Just wondering how Torres got on against Premiership players.

(Can’t seem to find any player ratings for Villareal)

Wallace

1.) 30 Apr 2021 10:01:45
Poor mans Aymeric Laporte.


2.) 30 Apr 2021 10:20:52
He's very smooth on the ball, and he has good defensive instincts and is fairly pacy. However, I think he does have some physical limitations. While his style of defending is to stay on his feet and dely the attack while his teammates get back into position. That is useful and certainly something our defence could do with. However, I feel he defends this way as he is lacking somewhat in the physical attributes. He is tall, but he isn't particularly strong in the air, and can be bullied by smaller players aerially.

If he moved to the EPL he would need to toughen up a bit before he was ready for a battle on a cold wet Monday night at Turf Moor for example.

He's fairly similar to Lindelof in many ways, just a touch quicker and left footed.


3.) 30 Apr 2021 11:21:44
Thanks for analysis Shappy

Maybe spend his money on a DM to avoid having to use an extra man in midfield with McFred.


4.) 30 Apr 2021 12:29:31
@Shappy You summed up Pau Torres nicely. I ve watched him, Milenkovic and Varane play 4 or 5 times each. Most physical of the three is Milenkovic and he was brilliant vs Juventus. However he s not as good when bringing ball out of defence. Lately he was inconsistent too.
Varane looks most complete of the three.
(I didn't mention Kuonde because his attributes are quite similar to Bailly who just extended his contract)


5.) 30 Apr 2021 13:08:23
Varane is without doubt the best of those 3 Dev. But the physicality of the epl would be a potential issue. He is a bit flakey at times and injury prone.
Milenkovic is hit and miss and I agree he is not as confidant on the ball. I've only seen torres in highlights and he stands out as being comfortable in possession and strong.
All good options both torres and varane would complement Harry better than milenkovic imo.


 

 

05 Jan 2021 09:34:49
Absolutely loving the results at the moment - real distraction from the misery and loss in tbe real world.

To think we could be 3 points clear at the too by the time we play Liverpool.

Realistically though, still think either City or Liverpool will end up Champions. We’re still effectively in transition and at least 3 top players away from consistent results:

Centre back: Torres? Bailey too injury prone though Axel might step in.

Right Wing: still has to be Sancho, though wouldn’t mind David Brooks. Maybe Amad Diallo will surprise us earlier than expected, or even Pellistri.

Def. MF: ideally Rice but maybe Zakaria. Too soon for Garner perhaps

Plus we have some real prospects at youth level (Mengi, Shoretire, Hugill, Hannibal, etc)

So, to dream a bit is harmless so let’s enjoy it while we can - then the serious business hopefully starts next season.

Wallace

1.) 05 Jan 2021 10:23:46
I wasn’t convinced by Rice but he’s changing my mind this season. He’s the standout player in the WH side. I thought his passing was suspect but it’s actually one of his best traits. He can run with the ball too which is something we currently lack in CM.

With the English tax i’m sure WH will be asking for upwards of £60m for him but he’s got age on his side.


2.) 05 Jan 2021 10:43:33
I mentioned earlier in a post that Pau Torres and Rice would make us genuine title contenders.

Declan Rice will be an upgrade on Fred.
He has a good passing range and is excellent in breaking up play and anticipating danger.


3.) 05 Jan 2021 10:48:34
Rice is a good player looks the part, will cost a bob or 2 .


4.) 05 Jan 2021 12:05:21
Wazza, when mentioning WH standouts, I have to chip in Bowen, this kid caught my eye at Hull way back during the Maguire and Robinson Days.


5.) 05 Jan 2021 12:08:30
I’m not convinced that Sancho is the guy who transforms this side, and for the money I think we need to spend it elsewhere. 100% we need a genuine RW but I don’t see the value in spending 100m or close to on Sancho.

If you could choose between say a top class CB, a top CDM and a decent RW (say Upamecano, Ndidi and Buendia) or a decent CB and CDM and a top class RW (say Badieshilie, Moises Caicedo and Sancho) which do you think would take us to the next level?

I rate Sancho, he looks a top prospect. But he doesn’t fix the problem that costs us the most points, a top CB and CDM would provide the team with the balance it desperately needs to gain a level of consistency to challenge for top honours.


6.) 05 Jan 2021 12:24:07
Interesting opinion Shappy, but so many of our attacks go down the left - opponents know where to focus their defences.

We’re too one-sided.


7.) 05 Jan 2021 15:05:15
Wallace, I'm not saying to not sign a RW player, but that the focus needs to be where we lose the most points. Also if we were more defensively solid then we would have a better platform to attack.

I'm just of the opinion that a 100m RW wouldn't solve our biggest issue when it comes to winning games. Which for me is the easily prevented leaked goals. At the moment we give every opponent at least 2-3 really good easily preventable chances, and that costs us points.


8.) 05 Jan 2021 15:52:52
Just sign virgil van dyk and have done with it 🤣.


 

 

15 Dec 2020 08:32:55
Lots of reports circulating that United have dropped interest in Upemecano to focus on other targets.

Normally I’d be disappointed by this but the wonderful Ed002 has told us that our primary target now is Pau Torres (if we can move on players)

This begs two questions:

Why have United changed focus to Torres rather than Upemecano? (Is it because the main rivals for his signature, Bayern Munich) would be more likely to sign him so United want to avoid another futile pursuit? )

Who would be rather have/ who is more suited to us: Torres or Upemecano? (Have read that Torres is fast, left footed and eye for a pass, great anticipation, only weakness being in the air, which Maguire might compensate for) ; not sure if Upemecano has any weaknesses

Not sure who I’d prefer - don’t know enough about their playing styles or if there demeanour is right for the club.

Wallace

1.) 15 Dec 2020 09:09:14
Pau Torres is a left sided CB with pace. He recorded the highest sprint speed in La Liga last season. And is also good on the ball and in the air being 6ft 4".

More info will be provided by Ed001 soon in his player profile :)


2.) 15 Dec 2020 11:12:24
Upamecano will have the choice of Liverpool, Chelsea, Bayern Munich, PSG and maybe Real Madrid and Barcelona if they decide to look at a CB. He has a clause so there won't be a bidding war, but that also means that he will have the choice of where he goes.

Maybe the club have reached out to his intermediaries and have been informed he has a destination in mind and the club are not going to pursue a player who doesn't want to join our club.

Pau Torres makes a lot of sense, he can be bought for a reasonable price in the current market, is good in the air (but not great, although he has the height and ability to improve), great passer, and is very quick. As well as being left footed and plays on the left side of the CB pairing.

So times the best player for a specific club isn't always the best player available in the position.


3.) 15 Dec 2020 11:55:29
Why such negativity? Can't you think that maybe they scouted him and he is simply not so good? Also they fear about injuries.
I never went crazy about Upamecano. Post lockdown i have seen him 3 times and he was awful. Then he comes against Diego Costa (i think) and he destroys him. He is a physical presence who plays with physicality. He is not a class defender, at least yet. I always thought that he is not great.


4.) 15 Dec 2020 13:57:25
If we are signing a centre back to partner the most expensive defender in the world harry maguire, good luck to whoever that is, they have one hell of a job on their hands.


5.) 15 Dec 2020 14:19:18
Herrera, I've watched quite a bit of Upamecano and I must say there isn't another defender in the world at his age who is better than him. He's strong, quick, good on the ball and has a good reading of the game. You need to remember he has only just turned 22, he isn't going to be the finish product yet and will have bad games from time to time. He's also playing under Naglesmann who plays many different systems, so he is still learning how to adapt between a 4 or 3 man back line.

In a few years time I think Upamecano will be genuinely be the best CB in the world unless some other youngster comes out of nowhere.

That said, just because he has huge potential and is very good at the moment. That doesn't mean he's either the best fit for us, or the best player to pursue. Tactically he might not suit what they want, or they might just appreciate that he will be difficult to obtain given the competition and they have decided to go down another route.

How many of us wish the club had made that call with Sancho over the summer. Surely Buendia, Thauvin, Ferran Torres, Chiesa, Traore, Kulusevski, Dembele, Coman, Leon Bailey, Ocampos, David Neres, Chukwueze, Bernardeschi, Ismaila Sarr, Tsygankov, Tete, Stengs or David Brooks. Some might have been better than others, but surely any of them would have been an improvement on signing no one.


6.) 15 Dec 2020 14:52:15
I don't think he is that good Shappy, yes he is good but not that good. He is the obvious choice as Sancho was. I agree that the obvious choice isn't always best for the team and there is no guarantee that had Sancho came he would be good, at least better than the other options such as Bailey Chiesa etc.


7.) 15 Dec 2020 14:54:30
I think Torres is most likely to become a Van Dyke type defender and build the defence around him. He seems a class and smart defender and he is excellent with the ball. If you ask me maybe i would buy Torres first and then Upamecano to sit next to him.


8.) 15 Dec 2020 15:51:42
Shappy, you are not the only one that rates Upamecano highly, almost every pundit raves about him, and some of the Eds here have also spoken highly of him. So surely there is something there to warrant all this hype.
I remember Umtiti at one point had similar hype.
That said, how many Bundesliga defenders have come to the EPL and made an impact? Boateng, klavan, Mertesacker, Baba Rahman, Sokratis, Boulahrouz, Tim Klose, Bernardo, Wimmer, Danso, Wollscheid, etc I am sure you can add more.
These are all Kompany hopefuls yet flopped.
Maybe Soyuncu will fare differently.
Granted that probably none of these names showed the potential Upemacano does, but still, there is a history there that shows defenders from the German league rarely set the EPl ablaze.


9.) 15 Dec 2020 15:56:57
Torres unlikely to waste his career coming to us with the present management.


10.) 15 Dec 2020 16:05:30
What about De Ligt. would it be worth a swap deal with Juve for Pogba. Not to sure how he's been playing this season as i haven't followed much of the Italian Football.


11.) 15 Dec 2020 16:46:22
De Ligt is a Mino Raiola player. I doubt he and the club will do any future business. I certainly hope not.


12.) 15 Dec 2020 17:04:25
Torres or Kounde over Upamecano.


13.) 15 Dec 2020 19:05:23
I wonder how many people are basing their posts about Upamecano after Utd played Leipzig?


14.) 15 Dec 2020 19:55:33
mbd, while there might be some truth in the idea that players from certain leagues might not adapt too well to the EPL there is always the exception to the rule.

You could say the same thing about creative midfielders, we signed Kagawa and Mkhitaryan from the Bundesliga without great success, yet Spurs signed Son and City signed De Bruyne (a player who has already flopped in the EPL with Chelsea) .

The other way of looking at it is that although he is playing in the Bundesliga he played most of his youth career in his native France. How many great centre backs have France churned out in recent years (Varane, Lenglet, Kimpembe, Zouma, Lucas Hernandez, Pavard, Laporte, Umtiti, Diakhaby, Issa Diop, Diallo, Konate, Zagadou, Kounde and Upamecano makes 15 players who could seriously make their Euro squad in the summer) .

Upamecano is a top young player, and if he reaches his full potential he will be one of the world absolute best CB's.

Simo, I'm not that impressed by De Ligt, I thought he was very poor against us in the Europa league final. For me he looks like a midfielder who has been pushed into defence due to a lack of mobility and because of his height and build. He doesn't seem to have the instincts of a defender, he doesn't sense danger and more often that not is in the wrong place at the wrong time. He is Harry Maguire but several years younger and with better technique and distribution, defensively they are the same player.

Pau Torres looks an interesting player. If we signed him I don't think we will necessarily need another CB. We have Maguire and Lindelof on the books, and I think both Tuanzebe and especially Mengi have huge potential so I wouldn't want to totally block them.


15.) 15 Dec 2020 20:38:07
He was terrific in the Europa League final Shappy and doninated Rashford. And don't forget back then he was 17-18. Ofcourse i agree that he is not good and i don't want him near my team. But in the final he was perfect.


16.) 15 Dec 2020 21:58:42
Both of them look to be 2 of the best up and coming cbs.
Both have heart attributes and they will both hope to make a big impact wherever they go.
City are also in for torres maybe madrid too so maybe rojo or bailly would consider a move plus a fee to help them replace torres.
I don't expect anything in Jan other than perhaps a couple of sales or loan deals for fringe players.


17.) 15 Dec 2020 22:06:46
Herrera, maybe I'm remembering things differently. My memory or the Europa League final was that Dr Ligt was built up before the game as the second coming of Beckenbauer, but in the actual match he didn't stand out at all, in fact his CB partner Davinson Sanchez looked the better defender. At least that's how I remember it.


18.) 15 Dec 2020 22:39:18
You never forget the feeling. The feeling after the final was *what an amazing CB and so so young". I never rated Sanchez, neither De Ligh except that match. Anyway i wouldn't even consider De Light. I would go for Torres and wish Tuanzebe grow up and become a partner of him or Torres with a Upamecano type CB. I always preferred Konate but i don't know about his injuries.


19.) 16 Dec 2020 06:15:20
Seem to remember that Ed001 rates konate higher than upamecano and I think he's right.


 

 

 

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Thanks for comment Ed002, not surprising really 😔.

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13 Jul 2021 08:37:00
Thanks for this info Ed002.

Do you think that United will be more creative in their player transactions? I seem to remember you suggesting that they were previously reluctant to to do this.

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05 Jul 2021 11:36:51
If this is true and we do, however unlikely, sign Camavinga, it would be a clever move by United:

If Pogba is intent on seeing out his contract and getting him and Mino a huge signing on fee, (most likely I think) then Pogba can be Camavinga mentor for a year to ease him into the first team, where he will then replace Pogba.

Also sends a message to Mini that they will not be held hostage to his demands and sorting Pogba out at last minute as they will have signed his replacement - stay if you want Pogba, situation sorted either way.

United might also be using the prospect of Varane to tempt him also.

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04 Jul 2021 17:09:12
Thanks for reply Ed002, always grateful for your precious time.

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28 Jun 2021 20:04:33
Thanks for the reply Ed002, sounds like business as usual at United.

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Should’ve both been awarded a draw.

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18 May 2021 09:07:05
Pretty much nailed on apparently that Kane go to City: several respected sources saying this now (impression he gave last England camp, win trophies, work with Peo etc)
Apparently City want Jesus in part exchange.

Might give us a better chance signing Rice though if City spending bulk of their budget on him.

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30 Apr 2021 11:21:44
Thanks for analysis Shappy

Maybe spend his money on a DM to avoid having to use an extra man in midfield with McFred.

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21 Apr 2021 11:37:02
Thanks for swift reply Ed002! Always appreciate your informed opinions.

That sounds ominous: dare say, as successful ruthless businessmen, they’re sore about losing this one and will be plotting something else, either to wring more cash out of the game or just to send a belligerent message that they should treated like this again.

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{Ed002's Note - They won't be plotting anything for a while - they need to decide on the way forward following this mess. They will no doubt be speaking with FSG and Kroenke but early indications will be coming from the "elite clubs", the Italian FA (although Inter jave just stepped back), the Spanish FA (noting Atletico have just stepped back), the ECA and the UEFA Executive.}