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25 Apr 2024 19:17:18
Ed it has been reported that Dan Ashworth is taking Newcastle to arbitration to try and resolve the issue of moving onto his new job.

To me this is a very bad look and may not reflect well on them when they replace Ashworth or maybe even when they try to buy players would clubs/ players see it this way?

Or am I looking at it wrongly, I'm not trying to absolve united they may not have acted right in this either.


{Ed002's Note - It is a case of someone signing a contract they wish to break and the compensation that is goining to be required to be negotiated. In terms of transfers, it won't be a huge issue, but it needs resolving.}

1.) 28 Apr 2024 11:40:17
I don't blame Newcastle at all, they've worked hard to create a set up that can help build them into a top side. Then an already established top side (that is currently in a slump) look to come and take a key part from them.

Ultimately they know they can't stop someone looking to move on and it makes no sense trying to keep someone who wants to be somewhere else.

Yet why roll over and get their tummy tickled. They will fight and they are well within their rights to demand that anything written in a legally binding contract is fulfilled.

If we, and/ or Ashworth want some of those legally binding conditions lifted or not enforced then we need to negotiate that.

While Newcastle will know that ultimately they can't stop Ashworth leaving, they will look to protect their beat interests. They almost certainly don't want him working for a rival club at a time where he could impact their plans, particularly in terms of summer transfer plans/ targets. While the longer until he can start working for a rival the longer before he can start making their rival stronger.

The club would have understood and knew this before they made him their No.1 target. They will be thinking long term and appreciate it's better to have a turbulent or at least tricky first summer as they don't have all their key people in place, but actually have the right people coming in. Than it is to bring in the wrong people just because they are available right away.

That sort of short term thinking has been everything that has been wrong with our club over the past decade.

From not being able to get our first choice target (FdJ) to then move to signing an older player on a massive contract (Casemiro) to fill the gap. When a younger player with potential to become a top player would have been a better alternative. They would have been cheaper and have more longevity. But the focus was on the here and now, so we got the expensive, decking, older, short term option.

Ashworth will join, as will Berrada, while Wilcox is already in. Others will no doubt join over the next 18 months in various roles across the club.

This was never going to be a quick fix, a 500m summer to bring in all the key players and to challenge for the title next season. This is a 3-5 year rebuilding project. Something we won't really be in a position to judge it's success or failure probably much before 2030.

We just need to let them get on with it.



20 Jan 2024 18:21:44
Omar Berrada apparently set to be the new CEO ed002/ 001 can you tell us anything? He probably will do nothing any of us really notice or know anything about but it's good to know who he is and if he's well respected.


{Ed002's Note - Omar Berrada had a position in the City Football Group and wants a new challenge. INEOS want him as the overseer of football operations across the group.}

1.) 20 Jan 2024 18:52:53
David ornstein has said he is expected to become our new CEO ed, I'm not doubting what your saying but ornstein is usually well sourced and reliable.

{Ed002's Note - I have no knowledge of what this Ornstein has said and I don’t know what I said to make you think I disputed that. I won’t comment again on the matter.}



17 Jan 2024 12:57:32
Hi ed I know you've said in the past Mitchell is the preferred choice for DOF but there are rumours he may be off to Roma have we missed out on him? Understand not much can be done at the minute so it's difficult to know.


{Ed002's Note - Paul Mitchell already has at least two offers on the table, and one is indeed from Roma. He is also aware of the interest of Jim Ratcliffe. It will become clear in a couple of weeks.

1.) 17 Jan 2024 16:05:02
Cheers ed :)y



09 Jan 2024 17:03:08
Hi ed noticed on the Liverpool site you say someone is in discussions for Antonio Silva you've said a few times he's our first choice option but I don't see us making that kind of offer for January.

I know you don't like giving time frames so I'll just ask is it us talking with benfica? If not I suspect it could be PSG I've also seen rumours Chelsea may be looking.


{Ed002's Note - No.}

1.) 09 Jan 2024 19:42:14
I wouldn't be surprised if Real make a move.

2.) 09 Jan 2024 22:27:48
Have heard it is Chelsea, don't know if true.

3.) 11 Jan 2024 19:06:25
chelsea will have to replace Silva sooner or later so not surprised they are looking at him. Can't see us spending that kind of money on a CB no matter how good he might be.

4.) 11 Jan 2024 21:43:16
Ahmad, sooner or later? Thiago Silva is 39 years old. I'm not sure how much later than can leave it to replace him if not this summer ?.



04 Jan 2024 16:45:02
Is there anything you can tell us about Oscar zambrano ed? Rumours we might actually try to sign someone rather than just a loan.


{Ed002's Note - Not much. Luton have held discussions and Troes declared an interest. Work Permit will be an issue unless paying over the odds.}

1.) 04 Jan 2024 19:03:13
Media reported the SJR wanted to focus on British Premier League players and since then, I’ve seen us linked with a midfielder from Valencia, a winger from PSV and now this fella!

2.) 05 Jan 2024 10:50:54
It’s almost like SJR hasn’t told the media his plans.

3.) 05 Jan 2024 11:26:14
Manchester United are the golden goose for the football media. We are not only one of the most supported and followed clubs in the world, but also one of the most disliked/ hated by both casual football fans and supporters of other clubs.

Therefore, any articles written about our club will more often than not get 100 even thousands of more hits, clicks and bought papers than most other clubs. Be that from Manchester United fans who want to know what is happening with their club, or the ABU's who are hoping to read about our down fall or for something else to laugh at us about.

As such, the media will unscrupulously name drop us in multiple articles that have nothing to do with us. Like when a player is linked to another club they'll drop in that we are one of the other clubs interested. We more often than not aren't but our name being in the article will encourage more people to read it.

They also love to speculate and in many case just plain make things up, or write an "opinion" piece regarding our club, which 9 times out of 10 is just someone mouthing off about us, looking to stick the knife in. Probably a Liverpool fan who grew up in the 90's and was teased by their United supporting classmates, still holding a grudge all these years later.

The same outlets that reported SJR wants to focus on British talent and the same ones now linking us to dozens of non-British players. They are also the same ones who wrote that it was Sheik Jassim who was confident of winning the bidding war to buy United.

Funny how they supposedly had links to Jassim months ago to know what he and his team were thinking, yet now SJR has won they've suddenly developed a close source to Ratcliffe who can tell them what he is thinking and what his plans are.

Maybe their close source is Uri Geller and he's just using his psychic "powers" to read the minds of these people, telling the press what these people are thinking and planning.

The truth is you can't trust anything written about our club, its 99% fabrication and imagination.

We will know what plans SJR has in good time, when he either tells us directly, or when his actions show us what he is aiming to do.

Until then if you must read the guff in the media remember to take is all with a massive fist full of salt, and just laugh at it.

4.) 05 Jan 2024 14:25:46
Rather like the speculative rumours regarding Kimmich, there's no firmness to the ground of Medialand.

Bayern probably would sell the soon-to-be 29yo Kimmich for the mooted £78m, what with the emergence of Pavlovic and dutiful flexibility of both Laimer and Goretzka (each of whom arrived on free transfers) alongside the fact they only paid £6m for him.
That £78m would cover his signing fee and all the wages paid for all 3 of the senior central midfielders at Bayern - that's called a basic no-brainer.

While he is an absolutely phenomenal player, at 29 his value will decrease come the summer so Bayern are simply using the media to see who bites.

A fishing analogy works nicely for this.
Bayern are casting a line.
The media is the hook.
Clubs like United, PSG and Barcelona will be the main nibblers.

Now, the problem with the whole prospect of anyone buying Kimmich for any price in January is that he'll want assurances and big money.
Euro 2024 in Germany will obviously be rather a big deal for him so he will want to be the main man at any new club.
Moreover, what with Bayern being routinely the main source of players for the German national team in tournaments, it would take massive wages to draw him away.

Ultimately, I doubt very much that he'll be leaving Bayern until the end of summer at the earliest when, upon the completion of the Euros, he might well return to Leipzig or perhaps then consider riches from abroad.

So yes, the media will follow whatever script they're fed - they're all like it.

I fall for the garbage all the time because I'm led by my inner-id that bellows 'F*** no! ' every time I hear stupidity.
Am I stupid? Marks out of ten please :D.




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11 Jan 2024 22:31:10
Check the everton site ed says potentially up to 4 CBS leaving in the summer meaning a full rebuild in the position I imagine the 4 leaving would be:


Leaving just licha, based on this I would like us to look at inacio although I've also seen ed say arsenal have made a bid that's been/ expected to be rejected form him on the Liverpool page

If we cannot get him I would look to Branthwaite everyone are in trouble we may be able to get a good deal off them not sure if there's a possibility for January?

Antonio Silva first choice for the right side but will be mega money Chelsea apparently made an offer of cash plus a player hopefully he's still available for summer and we can get this done.

With licha Branthwaite/ inacio for lcb it the options I've heard for rcb are obviously Todibo but I doubt ineos really want to go straight into nice, and the other option I've seen is Leny Yoro he's young but seems to have a bright future not sure on cost may be significant.

Anyone heard any other names? anyone any of the eds could suggest?


1.) 12 Jan 2024 05:35:56
imo lindelof and maguire will not be leaving.

2.) 12 Jan 2024 06:09:27
Two should be enough, I'd want to see kambwala given a chance, I've been impressed every time he's played plus do we early want to spend all the transfer kitty on 3 centre backs?

3.) 12 Jan 2024 07:58:29
Re:RCB other names mentioned are that of Marc Guehi, Giorgio Scalvini and Fikayo Tomori.

4.) 12 Jan 2024 08:04:52
cant see both staying ahmad, maybe one, surely not both.

5.) 12 Jan 2024 08:55:10
Lindelof has had his contract extended until 2025.

6.) 12 Jan 2024 08:59:07
Utd only recently extended Lindelof's contract. We need at least 4-5 centrebacks, he's a solid backup in my opinion. I reckon we'll end up with two new players in the position, maybe one a starter.

7.) 12 Jan 2024 10:08:49
I can only see 2 of them going, likely Maguire and Varane with Evans, and Lindelof staying with Martinez. However I would not be surprised if the stubborn Maguire stays.
Hopefully they will try and bring through kambwala over the next 12 months.
Incomings I think will be Todibo, yes there may not be a desire for Ineos to look like they are taking from Nice but he will be leaving in the summer to go somewhere so assuming they like the player it would only make sense that we try and bring him in. Also, maybe one other more up and coming CB.

8.) 12 Jan 2024 10:10:11
Branthwaite is very raw at the moment and i don't think he would be good enough. Especially when you take in to consideration that Everton will probably want an absolute shed load of money for him because he is young and English.
There are better centre backs around than him.

9.) 12 Jan 2024 10:20:00
Potentially up to four is the key part there.

That just means that there are four CB's that the club do not see as having a long term future and will accept offers for. However, those offers need to be acceptable to both the club and the players. If not then they will still be here next season.

I'd imagine 2 maybe 3 of them will leave. Depending on who goes we will likely see one maybe two CB's joining this summer.

Martinez, Kambwala and one or two of Maguire, Varane, Lindelof or Evans will stay. With one or two new signings.

10.) 12 Jan 2024 10:33:03
Pretty underwhelmed by Branthwaite. I saw some clickbait headline that Real Madrid were looking at him and spat my coffee out.

11.) 12 Jan 2024 11:49:19
I think a lot will depend on Maguire and his desire to leave and be a regular somewhere or if he chooses to stay. Martinez and a new signing will be the starting pair I imagine with Kambwala as back up plus one other. Shaw can always play CB IF needed with Malacia in at LB (assuming we have these players fit next season! ) So potentially 5 CB's to choose from which is sufficient. If Maguire shows intent to stay then Lindelof will be off, if Maguire expresses a desire to leave then I think Lindelof will stay or maybe be a late in the transfer window deal if we can get another CB target in.

12.) 12 Jan 2024 12:24:49
Honestly think we have to bring 2 in, let Maguire and Varane go. Evans I would at best give him the role we had mcshane in to help the youth, but if he wants to play i would let him go.

I'd bring in one for the left side and one for the right and keep lindelof to be replaced next year.

13.) 12 Jan 2024 13:24:41
Varrane is gone and not sure if we can seriously extend evans again. That means 2 cb coming i would think. Maguire and lindelof part of the squad.

We have no cover at left back at the moment as malacia seems to have some form of injury that may not be straight forward even when he comes back. I know Dalot can play there but that leaves the right side short.

Plenty of things for the club to ponder and plan come summer.

14.) 12 Jan 2024 17:50:13
Branthwaite looks excellent, but I doubt Everton would let him go anytime soon.

15.) 12 Jan 2024 18:29:13
Sepp check the everton page they are in the rubbish financially they may have to sell Branthwaite and I doubt they would be able to hold anyone to ransom.

16.) 12 Jan 2024 18:33:48
Centre half situation will be addressed but another important one is right back
We currently have two bang average right backs who are prone to giving away goals!
I can see Dalot staying as back up awb to be sold!

17.) 12 Jan 2024 21:41:44
Yeah they're borrowing from 777 and will likely go into administration if the takeover falls through. Then they would.

{Ed025's Note - he wont go to united Sepp, the big clubs will come in for him and he will go to one of them mate..

18.) 12 Jan 2024 22:29:05
I meant be forced to sell, Ed, but yeah, I agree.

{Ed025's Note - he just signed a new 4 year deal Sepp, and i know that means very little these days but if he does go it will be for very big money mate imo..



02 Jan 2024 19:31:27
Looks like Sancho might be off to Dortmund hopefully they can get a loan with option that converts to mandatory after x amount of games.


1.) 03 Jan 2024 08:47:15
Sounds like it will cost us 100k a week net to ship him out. Small cost assuming there is something very rotten with this player that the club is willing to do that. I fear he will flop in Germany and be back come June. Let's prey he does well goes permanently afterwards.

Lets hope we do not have another Martial saga on our books.

2.) 03 Jan 2024 18:21:33

You do wonder what will happen on that basis with Antony.

3.) 04 Jan 2024 06:58:43

Same thing if we move him and a nose bleed loss although his wages are not at Sancho level and I don't think there is any questions with the guys application and effort.

Antony will probably end up being a squad player. I always said we bought the wrong guy and should have bought Kudus and he is doing quite well. Said the same thing a few years ago when we bought Sancho and should have bought Bellingham funny enough:)

Reality is if Antony had cost 40 or even 50 mill it would not be such a shamble and you can move him on for even a profit a few years later based on his undepreciated value. Plenty of players in that range that you accept when they don't pan out can be decent squad players. A complete retarded deal whoever signed off on it is incompetent imo.

Sancho for me is an overhyped Deli Ali type English product who had 2 good seasons in Germany and was not good enough to make it at city. In 5 years time he will be a journey man. He lacks character and has no guts and pulls out of any 50/ 50 ball that might hurt if you compete for it. The fact that even with the new ownership they are fast tracking his exit tells me so much more behind the scenes stuff with this player that we are not aware off and they know about and want him gone and not related to the manager being at fault. He is a littel sh. t

I read during Fergie's time we had a 70 percent success target which we usually achieved on transfers. we have had 7% since he left. Not sure what is criteria used as a measurement.

Anyone see what Messi has said about the current crop of young talent and who he rates and can go on to do big things?



28 Jul 2023 20:43:21
20m bid by west hand for Maguire seems a little short as a fan 30m seems fair, supposedly they also made a verbal offer for mctominay, i'd probably say 70m for both or a package including add-ons around this figure would be fair.

Am I even close ed. or should I forget about the money haha.


1.) 28 Jul 2023 21:10:14
How much did they get for Rice? McTominay is worth 45m in today's market all day long, and unlike a lot of players we look to sell he isn't on a ridiculously high wage which is prohibitive to many clubs.

Maguire is also worth a minimum of 35m for an England international starting CB in the prime of his career.

We should be getting a minimum of 80m for those two.

2.) 28 Jul 2023 21:53:01
Prime of his career……. chuckle. I’d hate to see what he’s like when he fades! But I get your point. Definitely worth more despite his uselessness at United.

3.) 28 Jul 2023 21:57:24
For how west ham play, maguire would be absolutely brilliant for them.

4.) 28 Jul 2023 22:24:53
If i were WHU i would be playing hardball here.

He is on big wages, we need to raise funds to buy, he isn't a key player for us. It is known the manager isn't a big fan of him and he isn't going to play much.

There isn't likely to be a lot of takers here and he's also likely to cost more in wages than WHU would want to pay.

In these circumstances its smart by the hammers. I rather fancy they will have more options at a new CB than we will with buyers. Now don't get me wrong i think we should obviously get as much as possible but if i take my red tinted glasses off i can see West Ham may have a cery different take on the situation.

As an aside I think Moyes and WHU is an excellent move for Maguire.

5.) 28 Jul 2023 22:48:12
Shappy Maguire is on a massive wage west ham won't be able to cover it all so you have to take a hit I think 30m for Maguire 40m for Scott maybe some bonuses if they get European football.

6.) 28 Jul 2023 23:37:11
Shappy ???? mate thanks for that made my Friday.

7.) 29 Jul 2023 06:56:59
It can be spun to suggest Maguire is worth more than the £20m offered by West Ham by saying he's an England International with PL experience.

However, it can be spun the other way as well. He's a 30 year old, 5th choice CB, on huge wages who has just had the club captaincy taken off him as he's rarely going to start a game for United. Asking much more than West Ham offered in that scenario seems daft.

McTominay is exactly the same. He's at best 5th choice of our midfielders and it looks as though Mainoo may well have jumped ahead of him too. Again asking £40m for a player many fans would be more than happy to sell because they don't think he's good enough seems strange.

8.) 29 Jul 2023 07:53:30
I agree with shappy regarding mctom if you look at recent midfielder sales he is worth about 40-50 mill considering his age and a full international.

With maguire though I think we will have to sell cheap due to his wages.

9.) 29 Jul 2023 08:08:47
No worries John, after the season you've had it's a public service to give you guys chuckle ?.

10.) 29 Jul 2023 10:36:31
Does being a full international for Scotland make much difference to a players value, other than knowing most summers they should get a rest?

11.) 29 Jul 2023 11:21:03
Tell me about it ??‍♂️ enjoy your weekend shap.



16 Jul 2023 20:46:01
Bit of a weird rumour tonight we want Xavi Simonds. whilst at the same time it appears he's going to RB Leipzig think on loan not sure if we are supposedly trying to buy or loan have you heard anything ed?


{Ed002's Note - Not in relation to Manchester United.}

1.) 17 Jul 2023 09:03:52
Cheers ed seemed a bit odd.



28 Apr 2023 22:38:49
Right the bids are in ed it's been 10 minutes has either been accepted!?

(Yes this is sarcasm)

There's been a lot of talk at the end of this as long as they glazers aren't in control of the club I'd take it.

I'd prefer a full sale and them gone, but if that doesn't happen it means they wanted a stupid amount no one would bid so I'd much rather SJR had control even if it means they had a chunk they could sell on for more at a later date

Any SJR bid is for control of the club don't let any confusing explanations online make you think different even if the glazers still have shares they won't have any control over the club.


1.) 28 Apr 2023 22:53:50
People will rage if the Glazers retain an interest at all, it doesn't matter the reality of the situation.

I hope at the end of this whole process we have an owner who will get the right people in to run the club, and we develop in terms of the squad and the infrastructure. Who owns what matters little to me if these things are achieved.

2.) 29 Apr 2023 01:56:01
Does Jim's bid say anything about the existing debt? Will the glazers take out dividends?

3.) 29 Apr 2023 10:34:06
I was all for jim at the start, but with the latest rumoured bid I'm not keen, nothing will change, we need the glazers out and a clean break. Jassim is the man to take us forward, full sale, debt free and deep pockets to fix the stadium and facilities.

4.) 29 Apr 2023 11:28:09
This is the confusion even with the latest bid from SJR he would have control and can change what he likes the glazers may get a seat on the board but SJR would have more and would over rule them.

SJR bid is better than the glazers remaining in control yes I agree full sale is best but if the option is the glazers or this SJR bid I'm taking this all day and everyone of us would have 12 months ago.

5.) 29 Apr 2023 21:29:59
Oakbark it matters if they retain an interest due to an American 'group if they' win. If the glazers go. they go.

6.) 29 Apr 2023 22:15:19
If they stay I'm sure they still have some power and a say. We all want a clean break from them. It's like breaking up with your Mrs but still living together and sleeping with her. It's like nothing changed.




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15 May 2024 11:51:35
Ken my thoughts have been the same re after the cup final, recently though things just seem to have tipped slightly too far and I think clarity would bring things back down to ground and everyone would know where they are at, also think it looks a little better than sacking someone after they potentially win something.




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14 May 2024 22:31:47
Seems like Bayern may be looking to go back to Tuchel according to German journos think you said there may be a chance of that ed.

Is the delay in announcing anything down to everyone wanted to make the decision not currently being in place or position resolved (Ashworth) ed? My thoughts are clarity either way would help everyone at this stage.




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25 Apr 2024 13:08:00
I'd like to add my comments above about not being the man to implement a style were about Southgate not Amorim.

Thanks for the answer ed definitely seems like better options out there. though the fact you say he's on the list for SJR makes me a little hopeful that the decision in the end will be made by Berrada, Wilcox and Ashworth and they may not be as keen on Southgate.


{Ed002's Note - I would not get hopes up over Amorim.}



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25 Apr 2024 12:41:32
I still get the feeling we may go after Amorim, I'm not sure why, I'm not sure he would be the man for any style you would associate with united or any particular style I would say similar with Tuchel.

ed are you saying Southgate is top option based on the fact we have been interested in him in the past? of past on something more recent?

I'm not expecting loads of detail I just struggle to understand the thinking on him especially as a person to implement a style or structure, he may be someone who can get on with the players initially but that soon fades in club football if the wins aren't coming.


{Ed002's Note - Gareth Southgate (C) May be a safe bet for Manchester United - very much on the list for Jim Ratcliffe. Available after the Euros and has been of interest before.

For me there are better options available.}



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22 Apr 2024 17:56:40
I would not be confident with a lot of the options around, Tuchel and Southgate along with de zerbi I just don't see them being a good option.

Tuchel I just don't rate in any way he wasn't great with Dortmund and fell out with a lot of people, PSG should have been an easy job and he made it look very difficult, Chelsea I just didn't like their football or rate him that much.

De Zerbi I just don't like his attitude and his team seems to be getting worse as they forget more and more what they learned during the potter days

Southgate boring, lifeless, and tragic, like Brendan Rodgers but English.

My preferred options of the names mentioned are first of all Amorim can't say I know much but seems to play attacking football also based on our transfer targets list ed gave us I think he'd fit well

Potter I think he'd be a good option to get a set up and style in play it would require the club to back him for a year/ 2 whilst the team was moulded and the style was set up

Seems like Amorim may be talking to clubs in London over the next couple of days, West Ham seems to be one maybe he'll talk to others? Hopefully we may be one of them.





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23 May 2024 22:33:26
It's funny if they had sacked him before the final people would have complained we sacked/ planned to sack/ let go a manager when we still had a final to play and basically gave up on it.

I think they could have clarified probably after the palace game but they want the season done and it could be partly to do with finances etc.

The issue becomes how ten hag finds out and how he was treated with it we probably won't find that out.




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16 May 2024 12:22:22
Crazy isn't it how the last 2 games have shown completely abandoning midfield was a bad idea.




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15 May 2024 14:35:41
Maybe my sneaky feeling is a little off then.




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15 May 2024 12:11:11
I think silva and Branthwaite may just be available for under 100m. Everton need the money, and the Portuguese papers seem to say benfica would rather lose Silva than neves so a deal can be done. The question then becomes do they want Silva or Neves more and which player do we have the best quality attainable back up for at a decent price etc. lots to think about.


{Ed002's Note - Silva and Branthwaite will not be avilable for £100M - it would cost considerably more to buy them both.



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15 May 2024 10:40:22
Think Tosin becomes an option of we are bringing in 3 CBs he would signal lindelof is also leaving.

Martinez, Branthwaite, Tosin and Silva?

Think they are all happier defending higher up the field than Maguire and lindelof and from what I know (touch wood) they aren't as injury prone as Varane, also you might get all 3 covered under varanes wage alone.