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29 Oct 2024 15:44:12
Guess its confirmed now with 10m being paid off. Great if that's true.
1.) 29 Oct 2024 16:10:19
All he needs to find now, is some centrebacks with a bit of pace because ours are all so slow, like cart horses but hopefully Lenny is quick and adjust to epl, he needs to find a striker or two, because we got zero in that department needs a LWB who can play a dozen games on the trot….
Sell off half a billion pounds worth of crap that ETH bought in
Then just maybe we can build something positive…. Fingers crossed.
2.) 29 Oct 2024 17:25:41
Or maybe he believes there are players in those individuals and he can coach them into a team.
Remember he won't be able to add much in January, so he will have to work with this squad for the rest of the year.
3.) 29 Oct 2024 18:44:55
I am convinced there is better there or at least hoping, then they been showing, surely there must be, the law of averages must say out of all the players Eric added surely some of them must be OK although I have to be honest I not seen much that fills me with confidence, not as if they did not know Eric most of them he coached before, but hardly shows he been coaching Antony for 4 years! And I would virtually say every player digressed under ETH it’s hard to think of a player that’s gone in right direction, possibly Onana looked better this season, but the rest. well.
4.) 29 Oct 2024 22:23:50
There is definitely great potential in our squad not enough to challenge for the title but enough for a really good manager who I stills discipline and tactical structure.
5.) 30 Oct 2024 00:02:57
Maze,
Let’s see how things go, why be negative before he’s even started?
6.) 30 Oct 2024 03:24:25
There are some very good players in this squad who simply need a system that works and coaching to improve.
The right coach will improve this side immensely.
If it is Amorim and he okayed his preferred formation, Dalot and Mazraoui would make excellent wingbacks.
A back three of de Ligt, a ball player like Yoro and Martinez to step into midfield looks strong.
Two midfielders of Mainoo, Cas (who I think would work well in this formation) and Ugarte feels strong, and any of the front three would fit this.
No doubt we need a decent lwb, and another midfielder.
I’m getting hopeful - it’s the hope that kills you.
7.) 30 Oct 2024 06:44:32
Hoping we buy Alphonso Davies. I think shaw is a really good player when fit but unfortunately he seems to be struggling with injuries and its not going to get easier given his age. He would be a great back up option for martinez as a back 3 or left wingback considering you need rotation and he can't play 50 games a season.
Or maybe Amas and also the kid at benfica who we have a buy back clause are the long term solutions as wingbacks. We still will need a left footed player who can play as a cb as a back up for martinez. Shaw ticks the box and did very well playing there when martinez was injured.
8.) 30 Oct 2024 08:48:44
Ahmad H,
I think Davies will end up at RM. He would be a brilliant free transfer.
9.) 30 Oct 2024 19:57:15
Have to agree, better coaching will improve us, but interested to know who the VERY good players in this squad are?
10.) 31 Oct 2024 01:26:51
De Ligt, Martinez, Yoro, Ugarte, Mainoo, Garnacho, Bruno, Hojlund, all have shown they can be very good, you could even include Rashford who can be very very good but also very very bad. Time will tell if Amorim can get these players playing at their best but if he does then we will be fine.
11.) 31 Oct 2024 15:17:30
Hope your right, but imo
Deligt. far too slow for epl
Martinez …very rash and gone backwards since injury
Yoro…who knows he not played a epl game yet, so how on earth do you know?
Mainoo…player in there for sure but stagnated under ETH
Garnacho…. player in there but very wasteful
Bruno…yes 100% if he not switched to every position going…and not captain!
Hojlund…not for me, nowhere near good enough to lead the line
Rashford…Yes when he wants and clearly did not want under ETH.
12.) 02 Nov 2024 09:51:52
Mainoo stagnated under EtH ???
Surely you're trolling?
He didn't start playing for us until January, how on earth are you saying a 19 year old with less than half a season of senior football under his belt has "stagnated"?
As for the rest, MdL has looked good, he's not the fastest, but he's not slow. His pace is around average for a CB. I was one of the more skeptical fans when he signed, but so far I haven't seen anything that justified my skepticism.
Martinez hasn't gone backwards, he just hasn't got up to full speed after having a bad injury, then having a set back during recovery, then picking up a new injury shortly after coming back from the original injury.
Yoro is a highly rated player, he looked good during pre-season. Granted that was only pre-season. He was also excellent in Ligue 1 last season.
Garnacho has great potential and is currently our most consistent goal contributor this season with 5 goals and 4 assists. Yes he can be wasteful, pretty much all 19 year old forwards are. They are still learning.
Bruno and Rashford it's just not up for debate, over the past 5 years they have not only been our most consistent attacking players. But their numbers put them amongst the top ten players in the league over that time.
I'm not sure what you expect from Højlund. He's had one season where we were injury riddled and awful, hardly creating any chances. He was in and out of the team due to his own injuries and was trying to settle in a new country and league. Despite that his chances conversation rate was 56%. For context elite strikers such as Kane typically have a chance conversation rate of around 25% (Kane's last season was 26%) . The reason he didn't score more goals was that he was averaging 1.1 shots per game, Kane on the other hand was averaging 4.6 shots per game last season.
It's unlikely that he'd be able to, but if he maintained that conversation rate and was being provided with 4+ chances a game then he'd be scoring twice as many goals as Kane. If his conversation rate dropped by HALF and he was being provided with 4 chances a game then he'd be matching Kane's scoring levels.
Yet you don't think there's a player there. Sure he's 21 years old and his form will dip and peak over the next few seasons. But if we can start regularly creating 3-4 good chances a game for him then we potentially have one of the best young forwards in Europe in our squad.
09 Jun 2023 20:06:26
American Friday will close in another few hours and with that the supposed "qatari deadline". I think its safe to say that Jim "Rat" Glazer has successfully seduced the other Glazers and will end up screwing Manchester United.
1.) 10 Jun 2023 01:55:38
Chin up mate. 2 of the top 3 teams in the world for sale at the same time “unprecedented “ overpriced both of us so not lot of takers.
2.) 10 Jun 2023 05:35:31
Reports said that the self imposed deadline was removed and the deal will stay on the table.
The truth is this process has gone on far too long and needs to be concluded for the sake of the club.
Unfortunately when have the Glazers ever done anything for the sake of the club. That is why any deal needs to see the back of them immediately or in the extreme short term.
3.) 10 Jun 2023 09:42:11
Would be a good deal if Ratcliffe can get it over the line, fingers crossed. Mainly just to see the meltdown from people who have absolutely no idea.
4.) 10 Jun 2023 15:25:46
Hey look whos back. GtS weren't you the one who got banned??. Meltdown was it? Create your own page if you have an allergy reading what other posters feel like writing and obviously you are a know it all.
5.) 10 Jun 2023 15:59:48
GtS
What makes you think the Rats deal is a good one? What makes you think continued Glazer involvement is good?
Do you care about the future of the club?
6.) 13 Jun 2023 06:12:25
Redman
What makes you think the future of the club is in better hands if sheikh Jasem takes over compared to SJR. Plenty of clubs with foreign owners in the PL who have made a mess of things.
The future of the club will depend on who is the most capable in terms of putting a plan together and a structure to support it imo.
If you go by the PSG example, They have spend money like drunk sailors and won nothing but the French league and internally the club is a mess so that's the other side of the coin.
When the sale goes through the glazers will have very little say going forward and a minority investor.
30 Aug 2022 20:31:42
Hey Ed002, if you are around- With Dubravka almost confirmed, do you think this is our business done or are we still looking to get more players in in the remaining 2 days? I won't ask you for details of who or where or how much, a simple yes or no would suffice. Thanks for all the updates.
{Ed002's Note - I have answered this.}
30 May 2022 15:28:32
Hi Ed002, have Man Utd made any contact for Neves? I remember you said that we would be interested but with all the news about DeJong etc, Neves has gone missing. Any update? Thanks!
{Ed002's Note - Ruben Neves (DM/CM) Wolves would look to get as close to €50M as they can should circumstances dictate Neves is sold, and they may be more accepting of that now. Mr Mourinho is a huge fan and has tried to take him to three different clubs in the past - and he would, I am sure be interested in taking him to Roma but their focus right now is elsewhere. He has always been seen as an option to replace Matic at Manchester United, but they have other priorities to deal with first and preferred options - although Wolves might see an offer. His agent has been actively offering him around and has spoken with Juventus who are looking to offload players but none that I would expect Wolves to be interested in. The Spurs coach would like him as an upgrade to Sissoko (who has now left) and Ndombele but it is likely both would need to leave as they have added another addition in midfield as well - if Winks were sold an offer is possible.. Chelsea have a preference for another player. Arsenal have been very interested but could be out of the picture if they do not achieve Champions League football. The player wants to move to Barcelona, but it would need players in exchange or them to remove wages from the accounts - but they should not be ruled out - and I expect they may push.}
1.) 30 May 2022 15:45:20
Thank you Ed002. Appreciate the detailed information.
2.) 30 May 2022 18:39:34
Ed, would De Jong to United enable Barcelona to move for Neves?
{Ed002's Note - Sure but they are completely unrelated.}
3.) 31 May 2022 14:22:27
Seems like De Jong is determined to stay in Catalonia.
4.) 02 Jun 2022 09:54:02
I would take neves over de jong and saves us from going after a player who does not want to move. I also think neves is proven pl player and not sure how de jong will handle the pace of the pl and physicality. Might turn out to be another tulip.
08 Nov 2021 07:29:25
Hearing reports of a player revolt against Ole now. Paper talk or reality? Anyone from Manchester, what's the word on the streets?
1.) 08 Nov 2021 08:14:08
See my post on banter.
2.) 08 Nov 2021 09:32:50
Lots ofcontrasting media chatter about whether United will sack Ole or give him more time, but the balance is now tipping towards the former.
My take is that United know he needs to go, but have no replacement lined up yet, so they need to keep their cards close to their chest.
As soon as they get something sorted out, he will go: has to, given poor coaching, favouritism, senior players unhappy etc.
Rogers the favourite: undoubtedly a good coach, but question marks hang over him.
I’d bring in Laurent Blanc on a temporary basis and either keep him on if he does a good job, or give him another job in United when Pochettino or Ten Haag are viable.
3.) 09 Nov 2021 12:43:37
More worrying. Rumours Woodward is to be offered a consultancy role. In what. abysmal recruitment?
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03 Jan 2025 14:21:40
A prime RvN will struggle in this team as a striker who gets absolutely no service and people are having a go at a 21 year old. Great. Its probably the bad phase that people need a scapegoat and its Rasmus time.
1.) 03 Jan 2025 15:42:00
RVN was a great striker. Funny I have watched a few, remember Benzema coming to OT with Lyon, you could see the angles on his runs, how he looked to break past the defenders. I don’t yet see anything like that in Hojland, but I do see him fail to shield the ball and it bounce off him. I remember how Mark Hughes held the ball, but RH loses it far too much. Yes young and no not a scapegoat, but we totally need a goal scoring CF, soon.
2.) 03 Jan 2025 15:52:21
I don’t think Rasmus is being made a scapegoat like many players he needs to do more
And when the team isn’t winning and is on a very bad run of form the things we would normally let slide get picked up on
He is young and he isn’t ready to be leading the line, I do think he has the ability atm tho his hold up play needs work and he needs to stay in around the box, demand the ball is played in behind
He often comes deep or out wide he needs to a bit more at linking the play. But that said he is not the worst player out there atm.
We have a championship level forward line and cannot count on the defence atm we are leaking goals
Somtimes you need your forwards to get you out of trouble and at the minuite we don’t look like scoring and are heading to a place we have scored once since 2018.
3.) 03 Jan 2025 16:37:34
Mark Hughes us one of my all time favs as was rvn.
Kilnsman and Drogba are others I've admired in the past. All Brilliant team centre forwards.
There are many others of course. Their ability to take the ball from anywhere and hold it until the cavalry arrives was brilliant. 1st touch, running channels, great strikers of the ball. Great instincts and always on the move in the box. Always looking to get across the front post defender. Brave on and off the ball. In his whole united career I think rvn only scored 1 goal from outside the box. The other 3 could score from anywhere . Hughes not as prolific as the other 3 but he put team before himself at all times. One of the best volley techniques I've seen. All 4 were men for the big occasion too.
Rasmus lacks a lot of those attributes.
I'm sure they are on the hunt redman but we need to work within the rules and it's not going to be easy in Jan. I don't think it's any coincidence that amorim and the club have chosen to try and encourage offers for garnacho and rashford at this time because of their home grown status and the huge financial gain the get from selling them. Just like mctom.
Getting 80m for them asked them to spend 150m and not have a deficit.
Cas will not produce a loss at this point if they can get 20m plus. Getting his and rashfords wages off the books would be huge.
It's so complicated and nobody understands the full dynamics of the financial constraints they have inherited except those involved.
Selling has to happen before anything and Selling what we have to offer for one reason or another is not easy particularly in Jan.
Not sure what they can do unless we get some players out.
Interesting to see how it all unfolds. Liverpool will be one to watch from behind the couch.
I'm sure he is learning things with every game and I'm sure he is looking forward to getting a bit of time with them on the training pitch.
4.) 03 Jan 2025 20:52:35
Don’t think Radmusnis a scapegoat. He’s just hit good enough yet to be an elite first choice striker.
That being said, reality check Utd fans. We’re not an elite team anymore and will take quite a bit of work and time to get back to that. And there is no gudantee we will get it back. We’re cup team, much like we were pre Ferguson for over a generation.
5.) 04 Jan 2025 03:58:18
I think hoiland is too young and way too raw to carry the load up front. His touch when trying to hold up the ball is very clumsy. 2 maybe 3 years away imo. He also seems to score the bulk of his goals in europe and not pl.
6.) 04 Jan 2025 09:58:04
Højlund has a lot of potential, but it's just that at the moment, potential.
He does some things well, while he clearly still needs to learn other aspects of the game.
He runs the channels well, is clinical when given a chance, and mostly makes good runs.
Where he needs to improve is his strength, for a big lad he doesn't know how to use his size and get brushed off the ball too easily (although he has looked better at times this season) . He also need to improve his hold up and link play.
But again we signed a 20 year old with potential, he was always going to have things he needs to improve on.
He shouldn't be expected to lead the line on his own and carry the teams goalscoring burden on his shoulders by himself.
I don't have any concerns about him or his ability to be a success here with us.
He and the club do however require us to have a older, more experienced striker to work alongside and to take more of the goalscoring burden while he develops.
The problem we will have is who can we get who is good enough? Top strikers are very expensive and in high demand, while we are not the most attractive prospect for top players to join right now. They will almost certainly have better options available to them.
Talk of Gyökeres is just that in my opinion, talk. He is being chased/ watched by top clubs and if it wasn't for Amorim being our manager no one would have us as a serious suitor for him. He'll cost most of what we have to spend in total and will have other options.
If we can get him then great, but I do wonder how many goals he'd get when the team still doesn't have a LWB, little creativity beyond Bruno and a lack of ability to progress the ball from defence through midfield to the forwards line.
Until those problems are solved no striker will score that many goals for us, and if we blow all of our budget on Gyökeres then we can't solve those issues.
It'll be like buying a Ferrari but not having any money left for petrol.
We probably need to find a cheaper (and more realistic solution) that won't be a top player but will allow us to fix the other problems within the squad.
While he won't be a popular choice, someone like Jonathan David seems like an option we shouldn't be turning out noses up at. Someone who can lead the line or play wider or as a No.10, has consistently scored 15+ league goals every year for the past 4 years, has a good amount of experience but isn't on the decline, and is available for free in the summer. He's also absolutely rapid and fairly strong, adding some athleticism to a team that looks slow and immobile a lot of the time.
He obviously isn't a top striker, and he almost certainly won't become one. But he is available cheaply, improves us, and offers us an extra option while Højlund develops.
He would also allow us to spend on other areas of the squad meaning we might actually be able to consistently provide good chances for our strikers to score in the first place.
31 Dec 2024 11:49:54
Has Maze returned as the Equalizer?
1.) 31 Dec 2024 12:48:37
Option 1. I don’t have the players, I am going to use the most of what I have with me, sit back, make it compact and hit on the counter and pick up as many as points as possible. Because winning is a habit.
Option 2. I ll only play my way and if that means I lose every game from here on, so be it untill I get the players. I simply don’t care.
2.) 31 Dec 2024 12:53:00
I reckon. Certainly a troll.
3.) 31 Dec 2024 14:05:07
The problem with option 1 is that it didn't work for Ole, for Rangnick or for EtH.
If you adapt to play the only way these players seem to be able to consistently play then we are still exposed as not being good enough and ultimately failing to meet expectations.
Only a fool would look at the recent failings under past managers and think that doing the same thing that has failed 3 times in the past 5 years was a good idea.
Option 2 is the only way we eventually become a good enough side.
Changing his tactics now still wouldn't make our players good enough, while it would also undermine the players confidence in ever playing those tactics again. If even the manager doesn't believe in them then why would the players?
He needs to keep working on them with the players, slowly getting more and more players on board and comfortable in this new system and these tactics.
We need to focus on performances and not results. The results will come once the performances improve.
We have a better shape, we are able to control games better for the most part.
Two things are letting us down, we are too slow in moving the ball, and we make too many individual mistakes.
The first one is partly down to a lack of quality on the ball, and partly due to the players having to think about every action as they haven't learned the system and patterns of play to a point where it becomes instinctive.
To fix this you have to firstly keep working with the players you have to make it instinctive so they can move the ball more quickly and be in the right places at the right time. While you also need to upgrade the quality of the players in the squad.
For those upgraded players to be as successful as possible they need to be joining a team that is settled and comfortable with the way they are playing. So you still need to focus on improving the players you have with the tactics/ system we are looking to play.
Individual errors happen in football. Again these happen more often with players who aren't at the required level of ability. But again mistakes happen more often when a team is learning a new system. These mistakes also lower confidence in players which again makes mistakes more likely, it can be a vicious circle.
Again the only way to solve this in the shorter term is to work with the players on the training ground and play the tactics until it becomes more natural. As the players become more settled in the system they will make fewer mistakes and that will lead to less goals conceded.
In the longer term you again probably need to upgrade the players to higher quality players who are more suited to this style of play.
This isn't a PlayStation or Xbox game, you can't just hit restart or transfer 20 players out of the squad and bring in 20 new ones.
It's a process and it will take time.
4.) 31 Dec 2024 14:17:28
Well @Shappy, what is the point of sticking and trying to implement a new style with this group of players who in most probability won’t be here post next summer? You got to start this all over again in the summer. Don’t you?
They should have let RVN to continue untill the summer and got a new manager in change. This stint has sinked RA’s resume to a new low.
5.) 31 Dec 2024 14:31:24
He’s he has UA, I responded to a post calling him Maze last night, it’s so obvious every time as well, doesn’t even try to hide it, must be his 20th profile now.
6.) 31 Dec 2024 14:32:06
I have to be honest, I'm a little bemused by any manager who openly says they're not going to try something different if something isn't working.
That's not to say I don't agree with what he says - we obviously got him to play this formation, that is actually quite a common formation even in the Prem.
But I will find it a bit of a weakness, not a strength, if results don't improve and he hasn't tried something else. The great managers can mix it up. As he has said himself, the formation isn't important - it's the mindset, effort, and application within that system.
Oh, and every opponent now knows what formation we're going to use until something major happens, not that they need any help against us lol.
7.) 31 Dec 2024 15:01:05
He was brought in for his idea and way of playing if we wanted to stick to sit deep be compact and counter we would have stuck with Jose or ole
We have brought in football people and they have set the model and want to play a brand of football that is different from what dross we have been seeing for the past 10 years
We have changed the managers, the assistants some of the players and nothing has seemed to change now we have changed systems everyone wants to go back to what we wanted to change from in the first place because of a few bad results
Suck it up. this is now on the players it is nothing to do with formation or systems or tactics
If a bunch of professional players cannot adapt to a way the manager wants to play you don’t then replace the managers idea to suit the players, you take it on the chin and keep at it and get rid of those players that are not coachable to play that way
Look at pep when he came in to city he practically replaced the whole back 5 within 12 months
We’ve been asking for this team to coached to a way of playing for over 18 months, we have no identity what is the plan etc etc
Now a manager has come in and asked for us all to be patient as he’s sticking to his way there are some in the fan base that now want to revert back to just coping.
Professional players that can’t adapt to what a manager wants, makes me laugh, we seen it with Ralph first game against palace you seen what he wanted to try do, a couple of games after the players were moaning “it’s to much running” the same old excuses year in year out.
Change is needed and like Amorim said yesterday this club needs a shock to wake up because we have been coasting for a decade while teams have caught up and overtaken.
He’s a dead man walking with the dressing room if he decides to change it so soon, ten hag did that after 2 games and those players took the piss out of him just like they did ole and Ralph.
And as difficult as it is to sell some of these players due to them being on high wages that is no fault of the people who decided to give them those wages.
If this season will teach us anything it will be to learn from the mistakes and truly show what kind of fan base we have
Get behind the team and trust the manager.
At least it’s not going to be a boring season ?.
8.) 31 Dec 2024 15:56:08
Maze, so you expect the club to sell/ release 25 players this summer and bring in 25 new ones?
I'm afraid you're going to be very disappointed.
By the end of next summer's transfer window I expect we'll see a maximum of 7 new players in the first team at most. More than likely around 5.
While the vast majority of the the current squad will still be here, at most we'll see 30% leave.
Which means a vast majority of the players who are currently struggling with this system will have to learn to adapt to it for next season.
I actually think many of them can adapt to this system, it will just take a little time. Whether they can play it to the standard needed to ultimately get to where we want to be is another matter entirely.
Players who I don't think can adapt to Amorim's system include Shaw, Malacia, Antony, Zirkzee and Rashford. I just don't see a natural role for them that plays to their strengths.
While players like Maguire, Lindelof, Evans, Collyer, Casemiro and Eriksen can probably play within the system but are not ideally suited to it and will need replacing sooner rather than later.
You then have players like Dalot, Martinez, and Garnacho. Players who aren't quite natural fits into the roles, but who have enough ability and talent to maybe stick with for another season and see if they can adapt.
Players like Onana, MdL, Yoro, Mazraoui, Ugarte, Mainoo, Mount, Bruno, Amad, and Højlund are all talented enough and naturally well suited to Amorim's system/ tactics.
So that's 10 who definitely can play this system, and probably well enough to be first team regulars.
Another 3 who might be able to adapt.
Another 6 who short term can play some kind of role within the squad.
Which gives us potentially 19 players who could easily be part of the squad and contribute over the next 18 months. In reality that will probably be more like 15.
With a further 5 who we probably need to move on ASAP as they will likely continue to struggle and lose value as well as contribute nothing.
There are a few others that I haven't included because players like Heaton, Bayindir, Amass, Gore, Wheatley and Sancho that I've not included as they either are likely to leave or contribute little to the team.
I'd imagine we'll see 7-8 players leave (players who are actually involved in the squad), and 5 or 6 new ones join.
So if we are to stick with Amorim and he is to stick to his system (he has to if he is to have any chance of success) then yes it makes sense to keep training the current squad to play this way as most will be here next season as well.
9.) 31 Dec 2024 16:25:39
We will get a hiding at pool next week but don't kid yourselves about the mantra of trust the manager. If we continue to spot every team a 2 or 3 goal lead and look like a championship team it will turn toxic very quickly. These performances are not acceptable and he needs to tweak things.
You are all very mistaken if you think they will be okay with this and heads will roll. No body gives a damn about what system teams play its about winning. The most decorated and successful team in football plays 4 in the back, so this idea of wait the 3 at the back will be unbelievable if we could only buy a whole new team is a ridiculous notion.
The biggest issue is not even 3 at the back but how poor we look in our built up play and up front. After liverpool he has to win games. He will not make it to summer if this continues imo.
10.) 31 Dec 2024 17:11:09
I don't think it’s just about buying new players, we do need a couple at least to start with as there is no profile in the squad for a couple of the roles but it’s about teaching the players that are there how to play this system, which he has said he’s been struggling to do because of the lack of training and they have been playing a different (terrible) style for 2 years.
Obviously if there is no improvement once he’s trained them and we have a few new players in there will be issues, at the moment he is seeing which players can adapt quickly and which will need training and which are lost causes, I’m sure these results are helping him work that out pretty quickly.
11.) 31 Dec 2024 17:14:43
Ahmad that's funny. You wanted us to give EtH time even after 2 years of crap and saying Amorim needs to start producing results after a month incharge. Hypocrisy or just favouritism?
12.) 31 Dec 2024 17:24:33
Think he will get to the summer regardless mainly because we are out of other options.
Our biggest issue for a number of years has been our lack of creativity and being clinical in front of goal. This season we have scored 48 goals in 30 games, fix that then play a settled back 3 and we might start winning again.
13.) 31 Dec 2024 20:59:37
UA
ETH finished 3rd and 8th, 3 finals won 2 trophies and was ravaged by injuries last year. This is miles worse and don't kid yourself and excuse the inexcusable.
This is beyond any standard or norm. Getting humped at home week in week out is a joke.
I like him and how he comes across but if he can't get a much better performance out of the players at his disposal, he is toast.
14.) 31 Dec 2024 21:55:23
Had we gone for Southgate and the results been the same, we’d have been baying for him.
Amorim is a little more charismatic and an excellent communicator which has endeared him to the fans, but it won’t protect him forever. He gets passes against Liverpool and Arsenal but there seriously has to be something positive to see within a few weeks.
08 Dec 2024 06:48:22
An unpopular opinion here but i really am starting to think that Lisandro Martinez has lost his mojo ever since he has returned from injury. No crunching tackles flying in, no domination nothing. He isn't the same butcher that we signed rather looks like a shadow. Most of the times, he is standing on the ball without doing anything, 10-15
seconds at a time without even moving unnecessarily slowing the game down. Wont be surprised if he is gone in the summer.
1.) 08 Dec 2024 06:57:43
I've also seen the change UA. He was awful yesterday, although he wasn't alone.
2.) 08 Dec 2024 07:09:22
Just listened to Amorim presser. He has asked them not to lose the ball and maybe why the back 3 look like they are crawling around with the ball at their feet. I wish zirksee and the rest of front line players took some clues and stopped being so poor in ball retention.
I was on live chat and mentioned it a few times where is our midfield. They just don't seem to be available for a pass between the lines and its generally long diagonals to the wings from the cb and even they receive the pass they dink it straight back to the CB's.
3.) 08 Dec 2024 09:59:12
His lack of pace is definitely going to be a problem in a back three system, its why Shaw will start over him if he ever can stay fit and then we will look to sign a left centre back in summer (probably inacio given the connection with amorim) .
Luckily for us he could play in the centre of a back three instead of de ligt or he is definitely sellable unlike most of the squad and would have a long list of clubs wanting to sign him.
4.) 08 Dec 2024 10:22:44
He hasn't been the same ever since Salah sat him on his arse in the 7-0 ;)
5.) 08 Dec 2024 10:23:58
I've said previously that Martinez has yet to find the same form from his first season consistently since his return.
He has been good in spells, but the consistency in his performances hasn't yet returned, and we have to be open to the possibility that it might not return at all.
To me it looks like he doesn't quite fully trust his body yet. Like he's not sure whether he can go fully in to a tackle like he did before as he's concerned about getting injured again. That has lead to moments of hesitation which means the opportunity to make the tackle has gone by the time he decides to try and make it.
On the ball he has been excellent, it's his off the ball defending that has lacked something. That can partially be put down to playing a new system and finding his feet in that system. In this regard he is a the only defender who has made a couple of mistakes as they acclimatise to the new set up.
Yet with Martinez it isn't just the occasional positional lapse, or miscommunication. It's his aura, the way he goes into challenges. He doesn't quite look the same player as he was before. With time that can come back. He will learn to trust his body again. The more tackles he goes into and comes out uninjured the more he will trust his body again.
We just have to be patient with him. He has also proven to be one of the few in the squad who we owe a little patience to.
6.) 08 Dec 2024 10:27:46
Think he has been poor since he spent a month celebrating the WC win.
7.) 08 Dec 2024 11:05:03
Ahmad
That's one of the main reasons we looked so bereft of potency under ten Hag - effort off the ball.
Even Mainoo shied away a few times from showing for the ball yesterday - just what is that all about?
I get we're a team in transition - still, but there's nothing to excuse any of these players from putting in the effort that even a beer-belly on legs like me would show.
I do believe that much of the problem with our midfield is just the lack of support from elsewhere.
Neither of Garnacho and Rashford have ever been any good at mixing it in midfield, Fernandes simply does not have the positional discipline yet, Mount hasn't had enough time yet to flourish in a system that works best for him, Amad is too lightweight, Dalot lacks the IQ, De Ligt and Martinez are too sluggish.
Amorim's system cannot function properly until the midfield is supported.
I firmly believe that if we are to ever see his system work properly at United, it will come from a team that includes none of Rashford, Garnacho, Fernandes, Dalot, De Ligt and Martinez.
The Forest game was one where we looked like strangers - the new system will invite that gremlin occasionally for a while, but we are beginning to see plenty of evidence regarding which players will continue to let us down.
8.) 08 Dec 2024 11:06:55
I’d think Branthwaite would be the ideal player we are looking at for LCB but he won’t come cheap, he’s the best option out there imo though as Ed25 will testify.
9.) 08 Dec 2024 13:29:08
Hopefully that ship has sailed with Mr Ashworth.
10.) 08 Dec 2024 17:38:19
Martinez was poor on the ball yesterday, along with bruno, dalot and mcguire. Mainoo was available a lot for the ball for the first half - but seemed to drift completely out if the game (which happens a lot with him) . Out back 3 looked happier to pass safe and sideways rather than trust the midfielders and pass forwards.
Lots to work on for amorim. Bruno's licks and long diagonals, McGuire's favourite long diagonal and dalot's ridiculous shooting from 25 yards are all areas I would like to see the back of. Bruno was struggling to make a basic 5 yard pass and he was not the only one.
11.) 08 Dec 2024 23:42:02
For me it’s very simple. Varane made him look much better.
I can’t recall many standout performances from Martinez when he’s not been next to Varane.
24 Oct 2024 21:57:10
We have played enough games this season to make a fair argument on how poor we truly are. No matter what anyone wants to say the factors are, its really not happening. We are just turning up without any real plan. The sooner the management decides to end this, the better for Manchester United.
1.) 25 Oct 2024 05:28:22
Honestly wouldn't blame Amad if he decided to leave. Imagine having to sit on the bench while a right back plays in a position that he is entirely capable of playing. Especially considering he was player of the month barely one month ago. Baffling. Ten Hag really doesn't have it together I'm afraid.
2.) 25 Oct 2024 06:30:18
I bought a turntable a few years ago so I could enjoy vinyl, and I can tell you this, broken records are a real pain.
3.) 25 Oct 2024 06:36:37
Bored stupid, said it at the end of the game on live chat. This is Sexton mark 2 and we are trying not to lose, not trying to win. Looked to me like the manager was afraid to lose to Mourinho.
Manchester United, Attack Attack Attack, no more. We are being taught to be afraid to attack. It just is not good enough.
4.) 25 Oct 2024 06:42:38
AJH, i hope you are referring to the game Eth is trying to play.
1 win in 11 european games. Worst start in 41 years. Something is definitely broken and it can't be the structure.
5.) 25 Oct 2024 07:40:02
I say extend his contract. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.
6.) 25 Oct 2024 08:52:20
Yes BRD! But how long is the tunnel?
7.) 25 Oct 2024 09:28:05
We going need to need a generator to produce electric.
8.) 25 Oct 2024 10:21:24
Under Sexton the local paper headline was Cold Trafford based on what we were seeing and hearing from the manager. I have to say it’s feeling the same now. Dreary unadventurous football with players who don’t attack to score, just try not to lose. We have players who can attack yet in summer we didn’t buy a goal scorer. It’s awful to watch us, it is destroying our heritage, what we sing about, the football taught by Matt Busby. Someone in the new board needs to get hold of ETH and tell him to play the Manchester United way or sack him.
15 Oct 2024 19:30:15
Thats Tuchel off the list then.
1.) 16 Oct 2024 06:38:56
If Tuchel was the one the United board really wanted, then their dithering in the summer cost them.
2.) 16 Oct 2024 08:41:50
Good.
3.) 16 Oct 2024 09:17:29
Red Man, Ed02 has suggested that Tuchel wasn't interested or had rejected the advances over the summer. Now there could be a lot of reasons for this and I am sure many of us read speculation over the summer.
I guess all parties need to be happy with their role in the plan and if it doesn't fit for whatever reason should stay away.
I would not have been disappointed had he become the new United manager but then again I am not upset at all hebis the new England manager, better than all the other names mentioned bar one.
4.) 16 Oct 2024 10:17:47
Red Man, dithering? Mayhap he turned us down?
5.) 16 Oct 2024 10:40:46
I said IF Tuchel was the one they wanted. They should have made sure they got him in summer. If I remember rightly it was about input to transfers. IF he was their first choice then didn’t resolve it they should have moved heaven and earth but dithered on finalising it.
Personally he wasn’t first choice for me .
I am interested in Nagelsmann or perhaps a pure coach like the ex Dortmund coach because that fits the model better than Tuchel if honest.
6.) 16 Oct 2024 17:32:04
Well he started his first press conference with we need some luck and also luck with no injuries. Imagine if he had said that at United, some would have said he is already making excuses even though he gets to pick from a pretty darn good big pool of players.
United Addict's rumour replies
03 Sep 2023 11:27:28
If they don't sell now, there's nobody coming back in with an increased offer surely. Protests aren't working i guess.
04 Jul 2023 15:01:14
Hahaha ahmad your obsession with Antony borders on crazy. It almost rivals the obsession i had with Rashford a couple of seasons ago. Are you actually comparing Diallos season to Antony? What league was Diallo playing in do you have the slightest idea? there's a reason he was sent out on loan and not kept in the first team.
Antony had a decent season, better than any of the other players who were tried on the right wing, including rashford. You need to understand that Antony is a young man in a new country and new league. Give him time to adjust. Do you know what de bruyne stats when he first came to england? Is he a bad player.
I will tell you the same thing that several posters told me when i was trashing Rashford week after week. YOU NEED TO CHILL.
24 Jun 2023 21:36:46
If we are in for him, certainly he is an option on Casemiro.
24 Jun 2023 12:28:44
Yes TopBomin, afterall we are the only top club around and he will wait around forever for us to sign him isn't it? ???.
21 Jun 2023 15:08:03
Havertz going for 65M, i think that sets the tone. I think Mount is a better player plus he is English so that will add to the cost.
United Addict's banter replies
09 Feb 2025 05:10:49
Correct, angelred but how many have hone against us the past few seasons? that's the reason i am celebrating even more.
02 Jan 2025 15:47:42
Ahmad the most recent example incan give you to the contrary is EtH. He changed his style and then we never had one. That led to his downfall. I understand you are already on the anti Amorim brigade but would you not agree that its time that we let him use his style and expose the players that aren't good enough?
As such this season was a write off as soon as EtH signed on the extension and remained in charge.
01 Jan 2025 16:36:26
Angelred i get what you are saying but just want to understand what difference do you see in what Ronaldo did and now Rashford.
31 Dec 2024 17:14:43
Ahmad that's funny. You wanted us to give EtH time even after 2 years of crap and saying Amorim needs to start producing results after a month incharge. Hypocrisy or just favouritism?
29 Dec 2024 16:32:41
There you go then Ed001. He of all people should know. I am not defending Ratcliffe here, i was in the Sheikh brigade but still i would say that some short pain needs to be suffered for long term gains.
{Ed001's Note - yes, but some of what is being done is not going to give any long term gain apart from a potential tiny increase in profits. The need is for investment.}