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08 May 2020 15:40:34
Hi ed002, I don't know if this has an answer. Let's say the season starts back and 3 or 4 games are played before the virus makes a comeback. Would the line be drawn across the season from the current point or would the line be drawn from the pre-restart league positions?

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - There have been no discussions about the options but the proposal from the RFEF is contraversial in that it proposes to reset to the pre-start positions if it subsequently stops.}


1.) 08 May 2020 16:15:23
It's a pretty big call to make considering permutations of the table that could change after a handful of games. Liverpool could be champions only for the table to be reset. Us or Sheffield United could therectically in the top 4.

Just goes to show that it will be impossible to please everyone.


 

 

17 Nov 2019 12:52:43
Hi ed002, how's things?

Do we still hold interest in Bruno Fernandes? Seemed like a weird turn of events in the summer regarding him. We put in an insulting offer for the player and then never went back?

We obviously targeted a player for the number 10 role since we spent time chasing Dybala and Eriksson. It's very peculiar that we never revisted Bruno as he would definitely improve our starting 11.

Here's hoping that ship hasn't sailed.

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - I would doubt Manchester United will be looking at the player again after screwing around in the summer. There is interest from elsewhere and Sporting have financial difficulties - and they may reluctantly sell.}


1.) 17 Nov 2019 15:21:12
Ed any interest in Bale from United?

{Ed002's Note - The situation remains unchanged aside from the loan option that has likely gone. RM will try to include Bale in a deal for Pogba - and if his price fits what MU value him at then something can be done.}


2.) 17 Nov 2019 16:11:41
That's a shame. He's exactly what we need and he is available.

Thanks ed. Enjoy your Sunday night.


3.) 18 Nov 2019 12:07:24
Bale? You'd have thought we would have learned our lesson after Sanchez.


4.) 18 Nov 2019 11:20:27
Okay thanks ed.


 

 

29 Aug 2019 10:34:45
Hi ed002. Hope all is well. Are there any of our fringe players attracting any interest from any European teams at the minute?

Thanks!

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - Smalling is of interest to Roma who are fast running out of options. Pogba is of interest to Real Madrid but they are looking to someone else now. Rojo remains of interest to Fenerbahce and Matteo Darmian to Inter but both look unlikely.}


1.) 29 Aug 2019 13:03:24
Very kind Ed, thank you.


2.) 29 Aug 2019 20:18:42
Inter taking all of our unwanted players.


 

 

06 Aug 2019 07:24:03
Dybala deal back on after he finally had a meeting with Sarri? They should bin the transfer window altogether. This year has been the most tedious in memory.

Mumbles

1.) 06 Aug 2019 08:17:10
Where have you heard this, Mumbles?


2.) 06 Aug 2019 08:21:05
Mumbles, I think due to the many platforms accessible today, the transfer windows have become incredibly more tedious.

I'm sure that all of this went on years ago but news was only made available in the form of paper.

Now its everywhere. More rubbish than ever too. I'd imagine years ago, 'journalists' actually work hard to confirm and corroborate stories. So called journalists today are just regurgitating any news for clicks sake.

Man united are a big story and more is written about the club because more people will click on the story and the clicks mean revenue for the site.

Twitter is the devil during the transfer window lol.


3.) 06 Aug 2019 08:23:37
Apparently, Alfredo Pedulla (reliable in Italy, I hope) mentioned something is back on the table. Not too sure, though. I think it's just lousy paper/ journo talk.


4.) 06 Aug 2019 08:43:37
Some Italian journalist Alfredo Pedulla who's close to Sarri said he's willing to accept our offer. How true it is I don't know. It may be Juventus' last attempt to force the lad out the door.

We'll know how true it is in the coming days.


5.) 06 Aug 2019 10:37:24
I quite enjoy the chaos of the transfer window. Providing we end up with the right players once the window has shut, I’m happy to go along for the ride.

I’d still be happy with Dybala providing he cane for the right reasons and gave his all. I can’t blame the lad for looking for a big pay check, but am a little worried by how big the numbers we are hearing are.


6.) 06 Aug 2019 11:04:28
A Juve fan friend of mine told me some behind the scenes stuff that triggered the proposed sale of Dybala.
Apparently in the latter part of the season, Dybala when to the training ground with a list of demands for an improved contract. Juventus felt his demands were not justified and decided to ship him out.
According to him he ll end up at Psg who already informed him they re ready to meet his demands.


7.) 06 Aug 2019 11:37:39
I don't see we returning to Dybala, he has already acted like a mercenary and will only complicate things if he is to come and join.
Saying that we did look below average in midfield when Pogba is not playing and when Matic is there. So if we can add a solid midfielder to the fold then we will be set. I still feel we will get one more first team player in before the window shuts on thursday.


8.) 06 Aug 2019 11:58:08
dev1i. lol Seriously?
sounds total bs.


9.) 06 Aug 2019 13:05:12
My auntie is called Flo and she is an old lady and her bingo friend Doris said that her butchers window cleaner said that a bloke in the Eagle and Child told him that you can tell dev1i anything and he will believe it . and i mean anything 😄😄.


10.) 06 Aug 2019 13:23:55
BFRO I thought it was a song and tried to rap till I saw dev1i.


11.) 06 Aug 2019 13:41:15
@Truedevil when it s too good it probably isn't. Especially when it concerns Juventus.
I think Dybala will soon be gone, and most probably Costa too. However they ll manage to get good money for them even if they want them out.


12.) 06 Aug 2019 14:06:04
Pedulla is the best when it comes to Sarri coached teams. The best after our very Eds of course :)


13.) 06 Aug 2019 14:29:26
I find the eagle an child a bit cramped. I assume you mean the one in oxford.


14.) 06 Aug 2019 17:10:25
No Mort Ramsbottom near Bury.


15.) 06 Aug 2019 17:10:40
Romano tweets definitely off lol.


 

 

02 Jul 2019 08:22:16
Morning ed002. Today the lucky player to be joining us is Dani Olmo. Have we shown any interest in him?

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - Lots of sides have looked but turned away at the ridiculous asking price. Not the answer for MU but perhaps thay don't care.}


1.) 02 Jul 2019 10:15:00
Thank's ed. Is he well thought of or is it clubs drinking the Croatian kool aid?

Seems like United are being used yet again in the media to try and drum up interest.

{Ed002's Note - They are talking to Bayer Leverkusen about him - or at least were last week. Milan, Genoa, Crystal Palace and West Ham balked at the asking price.}


 

 

 

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20 Jun 2020 20:58:09
Some of the posters using yesterday's game as stick to beat Jose and Spurs with and to prop Ole up is a joke. We drew a game that was there for the taking.

First game back was always going to be difficult but I'm very worried with our ability to break teams down that defend deep. Our failure to score from open play will come back to haunt us because we can't keep relying on penalties to get us points.

Whether this is a good point or not will show at the end of the season. Wolves are now breathing down our necks, Sheffield United can go above us. With the games coming thick and fast Ole has no excuses with that squad of players. Nuno and Wilder.Showing what having a competent manager that can get a team playing more than the sum of their parts. Let's hope Ole can get us top 4. It's going to be close.

Mumbles

1.) 20 Jun 2020 21:45:54
it’s just more of the same from you, we get it, you think Ole is useless.


2.) 20 Jun 2020 21:50:43
Mumbles, it's about as ridiculous as using yesterday's game as a stick to beat Ole with. Yet some posters were desperate for anything to use to beat Ole with.

Yesterday's game, or any game, in isolation tells you nothing about how a team is performing across a season. Especially if that game is the first game back after an enforced 3 month break in the most unusual of circumstances.

We have taken 4 points from our two league games against Spurs this season. That's a pretty good return against a top four rival.

At the end of the season we can have a conversation about how the team have performed this season, about whether there has been any progress, and whether the manager should continue as manager next season.

With another 8 league games in just over 5 weeks, followed by cup games for a month. I think this will get very tedious very quickly if everyone comes on here and uses the most recent result as evidence for their backing or booting of the manager.

Analyse the games sure, but not from the perspective of sacking or backing the manager. I'm sure everyone knows which camp each poster is in by now. We have had the same debate every 3-4 days for pretty much the whole season after all.


3.) 20 Jun 2020 22:19:16
The only thing really to be taken from yesterdays game is the same problem we have had over the past 6 years against teams that sit back in a low block.

Slow build up play and sideways risk averse passing will continue to hold us back and stop us breaking down teams that play that way.

The first half was pretty much AWB, Lindelof, Maguire, Shaw, fred and mctominay passing it between themselves.

Once pogba came on and actually had the audacity to take a risk and pass the ball forwards we took a strong hold of the game and were clearly the better team.

With fred and mctominay, due to the formers amateur first touch and control and the latters lack of ability to take a risk and pass the ball forwards we are always going to struggle against teams that defend deep if they play together.


4.) 21 Jun 2020 02:48:43
DSG, rashford had a great chance first half, martial had two very good chances and in fact I think he should have scored the one from the Bruno pass. Greenwood almost scored late on too, and being honest I expected him to hit the target due to how good he is. There were also nearly moments, main one being the pass from pogba to rashford, better touch and he’s in.

Chances were created, we didn’t take them and we made a couple of glaring errors for their goal.


5.) 21 Jun 2020 06:04:45
Answer me this lads. What players from Wolves or Sheffield United would get into our team?

And ask yourself could Ole get Wolves or Sheffield United to the positions they're in? I'll save you an essay and up voting your own comments on this one. Ole couldn't.

Like most things nowadays, this is getting tribal. This isn't about what is best for Manchester United, this is solely about "I told You so".

Embarrassing.


6.) 21 Jun 2020 08:22:58
Everyone moaned the squad wasn't good enough, mumbles you have gone on and on about it .
Now it's a great squad and ole isn't getting the best out if them .

We drew so your dummy is out, but truth is after 99 days we played well, took the game to a spurs who havev1 or 2 decent players . And a manager with experience and a fancy CV .
Mumbles how did spurs and jose do?


7.) 21 Jun 2020 08:26:47
And don't forget we played spurs withe kane jose and Co? Not wolves or Sheffield United who had nothing to do with game
Vouching at straws.

{Ed047's Note - you’re clutching at straws if you think playing a hapless Spurs with a totally unfit, no where near match ready Kane is, an example of how good you were. 🤦‍♂️


8.) 21 Jun 2020 09:14:06
47 I've seen a steady improvement in united over the last 12 month.

Team seem to of come together, there is a direction in our style of play you can see what we are trying to do .

You can see the type of player we are trying to bring to the club .
In maguire lindelof AWB Shaw and Williams possibly dalot, back 4 seems to be taking shape.

Midfield options of mctom bruno pogba matic fred and greenwood martial rash up top . We will add a couple this summer as well .

13 games unbeaten, our run before the spurs game was our best spell in just over 2 year .

Its not just the spurs game.

{Ed047's Note - you were referring to the Spurs game though and steady is definitely the word.

But lots of clubs are making steady progress, well not Arsenal clearly, but others are.

You have for me, since Fergie left, bought 2 quality players that are in your squad now (Fernandes and AWB) and you have Rashford, Greenwood and maybe Williams and Mc Tominay coming through the ranks, that are at the level you need.

The rest are simply not good enough or like Martial just show flashes of something and of course the waste of space.

You have to start buying more players of the quality of Fernandes to really start making progress toward City and Liverpool.


9.) 21 Jun 2020 09:59:14
DSG, yes low blocks are still a problem. However, the 30 minutes when both Pogba and Fernandes were on the pitch we looked far more dangerous. If we get Sancho this summer as well then I don't think low blocks will present such an issue next season.

I've said before what we are missing is technical dribblers, we have several who can knock it past a player and burst past them with pace. What we need is a player who can twinkle toe their way past a deep compact team. Yesterday Pogba did just that coming from the RW and won a penalty.

We are linked with Grealish who is another player who can do that, as can Sancho.

Quite simply we don't have the skill set in our squad to break down low blocks.


Mumbles, you're right I think for many it's become an "I told you so" stance. However, I don't think any of the posters I've seen supporting the manager feels that Ole is the right long term manager, as such I don't think they can have an "I told you so stance". Red Man definitely has that stance, every time we lose or even draw he comes on here using the most recent result as proof he was right.

The funny thing is that I don't think many people think he is wrong. Ole isn't great tactically, and he probably isn't the right manager long term. Where others differ (I certainly do) is about how/ when to go about change. I feel that under our current manager many players have improved, young players get chances, and the general feel about the club is far more positive. The players the club have moved on and the players the club have signed have been the right ones. Whoever takes over after Ole will find a club in a far better position than the position it was in when Ole took over. That is progress. We can discuss whether it's enough, or how quickly it's happening, but the club is in a better position now under Ole than it was under Jose.

I feel that while the club is making progress it would be silly to sack the manager. Especially as many of the issues holding the club back would not leave with the manager but still be an issue for the next manager. Better to get the club in order and have a plan before we think about replacing the manager.

There are no guarantees that the next manager will do any better than Ole, in fact they just as easily could do worse. Also with the club in its current state the people who would be key in picking our next manager are the same people who picked Moyes, LvG, Mourinho and Ole.


10.) 21 Jun 2020 10:12:21
Everyone is jumping the gun imo, time will tell if ole is a good manager or can become a good manager .
If we continue to improve the way we have been i'm personal confident united and ole will do well.


11.) 21 Jun 2020 09:41:52
Ed i was referring to a previous post.

But the spurs game is a good example of the as you say steady progress. Lot of positives from the game and signs of the direction the squad are going .
Even if spurs are a mess.


12.) 21 Jun 2020 10:54:46
Mumbles you’re literally waiting for the man to lose his job so you can say I told you so. Quite frankly I think it’s ridiculous when people can’t get behind the man in charge, especially if he’s trying to improve the mess that was made by men with what I would say you seem to have the credentials for the job. First game back in 100 days or so, instead of constant negativity I’d recommend trying to find some positives, makes supporting something a hell of a lot better mate.


13.) 21 Jun 2020 12:02:02
Caolan2

The positive was that when the substitutions were made we took control of the game. However, with momentum behind us why did we lose control and not go for the winner?

I also want to say to you and Shappy, I am not doing I told you so and I didn’t after getting loads of abuse for saying Moyes was a bad choice, when it turned out to be correct. I say things as I see them, including what I see of Ole’s management. I won’t cheer when he goes because he was a playing legend, I won’t say I told you so if we don’t make top four or win nothing, or he gets sacked, that’s not how I work. Anyway we are not at the point of I told you so, Ole is manager and we might yet make top four and win something, so coming on here claiming someone is saying that is both too early and very inaccurate. What I will do is highlight the inexperience of our manager which makes him inappropriate for this level of role. Ole is very likeable, I cheered him to the rafters as a player, but he isn’t the top level of manager, I doubt he will get another high level role.

Its all very well saying it will be silly to sack the manager now because someone on a site like this says they can see progress. The club has stabilised that is true, but we sit in 5th on the same points as Wolves, Sheffield could go above us today and that is progress how? The same happy people now would have been screaming at Mourinho and LvG to be sacked in the same circumstances. It is just that people see the nice Ole, he is saying the right things and everything seems ok again. There is still a lot to play for this season but at the end of it Ole must be judged and judged not just on results but against the managers out there who would (and it is would) take us back to the level we were at. LVG won the cup but that wasn’t good enough, so why would it be for Ole? Having the club at heart doesn’t mean tactical decisions get made, we see games that should be won get drawn or lost. Shappy says Ole isn’t the long term manager, so how long do we give him? This time next season when we are not challenging for the title again? Don’t kid yourselves we will be at City or Liverpool level next season because Ole has not shown he is tactically astute enough to deal with teams that don’t leave space behind them, Spurs was just another example. The club need to make a decision at the end of the season or potentially next season will be another drifting along with the money coming in, just Wengers Arsenal in the later years. Progress will be the manager showIng tactical acumen, I can’t see it happening.


14.) 21 Jun 2020 12:20:44
Lvg is a tactically astute manager, jose is how did spurs play .

Redman your just trying to justify a belief you had before a ball was kicked .


15.) 21 Jun 2020 13:39:40
Redman my comment wasn’t in response to your post.

There’s nothing wrong with criticism when warranted. But I feel there’s a huge overreaction to the spurs game. A lost of control can easily be put down to fitness for example.

My frustrations also stem from the fact that so many just want the manager to fail because from all that I can gather is he’s not got an amazing cv behind him. At the end of the day the guy has the job, and most importantly is making decisions with the club’s best interests behind his every move. With Jose it felt like it was about him every week, post match etc. I just don’t get the lack of support from certain areas. People on here are quick to criticise him, but very very quiet when he does well, and being honest I don’t get it? We are all united fans and want the best, but I’ve even seen comments criticising him when we’ve won!

On his tactics, I will also say I think he’s shown acumen in big games. Yes, we’ve struggled against sides who sit in the low block, but we haven’t had Bruno to the end of January and pogba has been out pretty much all season. Very hard to break teams down when there’s a stunning lack of creativity in midfield, which can’t be denied, without pogba we had.

I don’t think there’s many if any fans who believe he’s going to fire us to titles or champions league titles, but I would almost guarantee that when his time is up he will leave us in a much better place than it was when he was appointed.


16.) 21 Jun 2020 16:05:05
Caolin2

If he isn’t the long term manager to fire us to titles, why retain him? How long do we retain him?

Reality is we are hanging on to 5th on the same points as Wolves after 30 games, after 38 games we must be better than this. Wednesday is a must win.


17.) 21 Jun 2020 16:18:59
We must all remember that our most creative players in the squad are Bruno, Mata and Pogba.

Bruno was signed in January after which the team has never lost a game.
Mata has lost his legs, Pogba has missed more than 6 months.
So it's obvious, we would struggle against low block.

What our team has is pace, which Ole has really used well.


18.) 21 Jun 2020 18:06:20
Redman, last manager we hired for instant success was Mourinho and look how that turned out. I always wonder where we would be if we stuck with Van Gaal and appointed allegri as Ed2 mentioned.

We have to allow him the chance to take us forward. Now I don’t know if Ole will deliver us titles, the club might think otherwise. Patience is a virtue and we have to hope there’s a plan in place.


19.) 21 Jun 2020 19:09:37
We hired Mourinho who took us to second then didn’t support him in the transfer market. It went wrong when we appointed Moyes and then never recovered. Appointing Ole was and remains a massive risk. Why do we have to give him time? He has nothing that suggests he can lead us to the promised land.


20.) 21 Jun 2020 21:02:33
Again red man, I’ve pointed out that for all we know they could be looking either longer term. As fans our lack of patience ruined the first plan. Also, looking back José didn’t get backed in the market, because well to be honest as soon as the first press conference of the third season started he had begun his standard meltdown. He’d pissed off fans, players and members of the board by all accounts. It really became the José mourinho show. Now I’d like to have seen what he’d have done when properly backed, but he spent big money too. Out of every manager since Sir Alex OGS has had the best hit rate so far.

That second place of mourinho’s was still about 20 points off first. It wasn’t even a title challenge which is what we all want. Look where he left us.

At the end of the day, my whole point is based around the fact that as Manchester United fans, and I’m talking about more than you or I here. Why can’t we get behind someone especially when they’re putting the club first with every decision. We all said we needed to strip it right back, but then the guy doing that gets pelters. I just don’t get it, I really don’t.


 

 

15 Jun 2020 15:02:13
Ed002, since the return of league is 48 hours away, can we assume all the issues regarding policing, health professionals, players signing waivers etc has been sorted?

If the league is stopped again for whatever reason will it be decided on P. P. G?

Mumbles

{Ed002's Note - All issues are resolved to a level but there remains nervousness. The proposal to allow players who were injured at the start of the second half of the season being allowed to replace those injured now or those not playing beyond June 30 was not resolved.

If the season ends early relegation and European places will be decided on PPG but and issue remains over the FA Cup place if sides who don't otherwise qualify remain in the competion at that point.}


1.) 15 Jun 2020 15:37:41
Would the champions be crowned on the P. P. G system?

Seems like since the the league must be resumed before the 27th June, they're knitting the parachute as they're falling.

{Ed002's Note - It was not raised but expectations are it would be decided in time.}


2.) 15 Jun 2020 15:49:40
Thanks ed!


 

 

10 Jun 2020 18:08:44
"I've asked all the Ole out brigade numerous times to list the mistakes he has made, and no one can come up with any. "

Honestly Shappy, why make stupid statements like this? Have you not been conversing with people over the last 18 months? Ole has made no mistakes? None? Not one?

"Ole has the record for longest unbeaten run". He also had the worst start to a season in 30 years. His win percentage was worst that Moyes, LvG and Jose. Speaking of impressive runs, he also won 3 games in 14 in the winter making him the odds on favourite to be sacked.


"most of our squad have improved". He took us over when we were 6th. Managed to go on an incredible run and get us to 4th, only to finish in 6th. Spent roughly £220 million in two windows and we're getting nose bleeds being so high up the table in 5th. Amazing!

"he doesn't have a fantastic CV (although he has more titles won as a manager than Pochetino) " There is not one professional football club on this planet that would choose Ole over Pochettino, not one!

"so we can't really sack him without making the managers job at United untenable" Moyes sacked the game after we couldn't mathematically finish 4th. LvG sack after missing out on 4th by one point and winning the F. A cup. Jose sacked midway through the season being in 6th place, replaced by Ole who also finished 6th. If Ole doesn't secure Champions League football for next season he should be sacked.

My point and other poster's points has always been that there are better managers available. Better coaches with better track records. As Manchester United we should be trying to appointment the best people on and off the pitch. Right now we have an incredibly average manager getting average results. That you and others are blindly trying to spin into him worthy of this job when he simply isn't.

Imagine thinking our manager has made "No mistakes" whilst we are sitting 5th in the table (could be 6th soon) behind Sheffield United and Leicester having done nothing wrong? Truely Astounding.

But I honestly hope this time next year I am taking abuse from poster for being wrong about Ole, because that means Manchester United will be doing better.

Mumbles

1.) 10 Jun 2020 18:29:33
Triggered much? 😂

Of course Ole has made tactical mistakes that in hindsight he could have set the team up differently or made different tactical changes in game which might have altered the result.

Can you hand on heart tell me that this squad and the feel around the club isn't better now than when Ole first got the job?

You are completely ignoring outside factors. The league as a whole has improved as well. While internally Ole's bad runs have coincided with key players being out injured. Squad depth has and continues to be an issue. When you are one injury or suspension away from having to choose between Lingard and Andreas Pereira then it's clear that the drop off in quality between first choice and second choice is huge.

You are 100% right when you say no club would hire Ole over Pochettino. Yet when people argue that you should be hired on the basis of what you have won, well Ole has won more. Which undermines the CV point.

There are definitely better managers out there. Just as there are better players. Di Maria was a better player than most we have currently, certainly better than any option we have for the RW atm. While LvG is a better manager than Ole.

Both failed, you need to understand the difference between being measurably better and being the right fit for the club.

Other than being tactically naïve at times (although often good enough to get results against the best managers in the league) Ole has made very few mistakes.

I wrote plenty of things Ole has done well

"Recruitment has gone well under Ole, the players who have left are players everyone has wanted moving on for a long time, Ole has the record for longest unbeaten run, generally we play better football, most of our squad have improved, we now have a captain who seems right to be a United captain, he has given many academy lads game time and has seen a couple make their mark in the squad. All this while changing the feeling around the club and bringing the right attitude back to the dressing room"

As seen. I called out posters to list the mistakes he has made. You have managed to spend half an hour of your time reading my post, then writing a long reply and yet you have done exactly what I said. You've argued a point without being able to list all these terrible mistakes Ole has made.

Thanks for proving my point darling 😘.


2.) 10 Jun 2020 18:51:05
You 2 are as bad as each other. For Shappy, Ole can do no wrong, for Mumbles he can do no right.

I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle, an inexperienced Manager thrown in who saw a dead cat bounce (a very very big bounce), but who lost his way and didn’t seem to be able to fix it. Some games he has been tactically astute, others he has been lost. He’s moved some problems on, and the signings have been excellent. I’m not convinced either way but you 2 squabbling, sheesh.


3.) 10 Jun 2020 19:12:01
Oh Lordddddddd. Not another Ole is clueless, lacks a CV, has no experience debate. We already know that. No need to be reminded continuously. When the club deems it necessary they will make a change. Until then Ole is manager. If you'll can't deal with it start a protest against the manager to get him out the club. Does Hansi Flick have an impressive CV as a manager, the answer is no but yet he is given a chance to manage the biggest club in Germany. A club of Bayern Munich's stature should be looking for the best manager around, yet they have decided to give their assistant manager a chance. It may or may not work out but the point is he was given a chance.


4.) 10 Jun 2020 19:29:55
I think it's too early to judge Ole just yet. The season isn't over, we're only 3 points behind Chelsea in 4th whilst still being in the Europa League and FA Cup. We still have a lot to play for and in some regards our season is really just beginning.

I don't think anyone expected a title challenge so a top 4 finish, playing a better brand of football and a good run in all the cup competitions would probably have been considered success at the start of the season.

Results in the league have remained frustratingly inconsistent. I can't say with all honesty that the football has been much better than the rigid, robotic and unimaginative stuff offered up by Mourinho, LVG and Moyes before them. Having said that we've suffered an horrendous injury record where we have been deprived of our best players for long periods of the season.

The brand of football and results have definitely improved since Fernandes was signed in January and players such as Fred, Mctominay, Greenwood and Williams have all made great strides. I would argue that both Rashford and Martial have proved they both have the ability to go to the next level and have looked devastatingly good on occasions especially when they have played together.

The recruitment under Ole has been solid. Maguire, AWB, Fernandes and James have all (so far) been very good and improved both the team and the squad. I give Ole some credit for that and whilst he might not be solely in charge of recruitment common sense dictates that as manager he must have some kind of significant input.

With a fully fit squad to choose from, being well positioned in both cup competitions and the race for the top 4 I think Ole now has to deliver and demonstrate that he is the man to take our Club forward. He must seize this opportunity to silence his critics and make us believe in his project. If he suffers yet more inconsistency and we end up with nothing then the Club will have a very important decision to make in the summer. Our season really does start now!


5.) 10 Jun 2020 19:33:33
Well if the structure is as much of a mess as has been reported on here, then surely the manager is the least of our concerns at the minute.

I guess it's just a case of bumbling along hoping one day the right decisions are made and the club sorts itself out.


6.) 10 Jun 2020 19:52:57
Ole out, Poch in.


7.) 10 Jun 2020 20:16:07
Plenty of signs we have taken a step in the right direction.


8.) 10 Jun 2020 20:25:48
Before long Shappy will be telling us OGS is the next great manager. As to mistakes, multiple, never ceases to amaze me about who agreed Pereira should have a new contract? I can’t be bothered listing errors, Shappy wouldn’t agree anyway.

I said on here multiple times that Ole set the team up negatively at times, can be effective in big games when we can break at pace against a team pressing us but isn’t astute enough against other teams we are expected to beat. How many times has he shown his in game management is poor, can’t think on his feet.

If it was any other manager, there would be few happy. It says something when the peak of excitement is possibly scraping top four. We may scrape top four, but it only puts the issue off for another season whilst some top managers are available now. Ole needs to win something and get top 4 to justify staying for another season.


9.) 10 Jun 2020 21:09:03
🎣🎣🎣🎣 oh look I've got another on the end of the line. How you doing Red Man? Nice of you to rock up and say exactly what you've said a thousand times before and still prove my point by failing to list Ole's failures. Tch tch, I kind of expected more. Come on Sweetheart, you can do better than that.

Tony, I know I write a lot and getting through it all can be tiresome. Buy I literally said in the second line of my reply that Ole makes tactical mistakes both pre and in game. I also say I don't think Ole is the right long term option.

Where I differ though is that I can see progress, and I don't believe in firing someone who is going in the right direction. I appreciate not everyone has as much patience as me. While those detractors have yet to actually list all the mistakes Ole has made which are so bad that they require is immediate removal.

I'm still waiting 😘.


10.) 10 Jun 2020 21:16:42
Inexperienced manager and not qualified for the job. Completely acceptable position. But he’s in it now and will be judged on results. Champions League qualification, however achieved, will be the yardstick he’s judged against.

Personally I think there are good signs for us going forward. We were really starting to click pre CV and clearly Bruno Fernandes has galvanised the team. As much maligned as he is we’ve missed Pogba for the majority of the season and Rashford out for a few months also. Need to remember Ole has been addressing improving the first team and squad overall as well as blooding some cracking youth prospects.

I think we remain a few positions short of seriously challenging but we’ve recruited exceptionally well in Maguire, Wan-Bissaka and Fernandes.

We have 9 games in the league plus latter stages of FA Cup and Europa. A fully fit squad.

We could finish 4th and win 2 cups. We could finish 10th and win nothing.

The time for Ole out or in is when the season is concluded.


11.) 10 Jun 2020 21:53:20
I’ve logged on for the first time in a while and absolutely nothing has changed. Such a boring, tired debate.
Let’s see how we do 5 games after the restart, then start the ole in/ out debate.


12.) 10 Jun 2020 22:42:36
Lots of long posts. All I’ll say is OGS is a massive breath of fresh air compared to Moyes, LVG and Jose. Hoping we
Improve even more under him as we had been doing prior to lockdown. He’s developing a quality, young squad whilst moving on all the players nobody on here wanted.


13.) 10 Jun 2020 23:40:37
I'm not overly keen on having ole as manager personally but the business being carried out in the transfer window seems to be heading in the right way since his arrival and if there are enough good players and match winners on the pitch all he has to do is pick the right team and we should beat like 90% of the league.


14.) 11 Jun 2020 02:19:53
I am not Oles biggest fan but i understand that Ole is a part of a plan. Promote youths, buy players who wants to be here, buy British etc. But for some people who wants him sacked i think the question must be what he didn't rather what he did wrong. He didn't play attacking-aggressive football and he seems that being underdog suits him, at least until now.

Some will say that he has not the players to play the brand of football that we all want and i agree to an extend. But the same was said about Mourinho etc, it seems that we like excuses. The truth is that a manager with clear ideas and philosophie train the team based on his ideas from day one like Klop did when he took over, if players aren't good then results ofcourse aren't good, like Liverpools when Klopp took over.

But the identity was there from day one and ofcourse with better players results improved. I hope to finish strong the season in top 4 and with a trophy, Ole to grow in his role and be with us for 20 years. Who doent.


15.) 11 Jun 2020 09:14:25
here we go again about getting rid of the manager.

i miss the Rooney debate.


16.) 11 Jun 2020 10:48:56
I believe Ole has done more right than wrong.
By the end of next window, we will get a clear picture of the team he is trying to mould.
There is now a genuine togetherness in the team and a positive atmosphere.
The atmosphere especially after the win against City was something else.

We have seen glimpses of the team's attacking play.
Now with Bruno, we have found more consistency. Let's wait and watch if we can continue this momentum.
The team has looked better and better as the season has progressed albeit injuries to key players.

We must not forget that we're still in 2 cup competitions and an open top 4 race.


17.) 11 Jun 2020 14:05:12
Ole has become a better manager in the last 8 weeks than he ever was while we were playing.
He has no improved us at all.
He will be given more time that much is clear so as supporters we will just have to live with that even tough some may not necessarily agree.
If we get top 4 he will be given another year for sure if we don't he might be fired and he might not.
His 5 signings have been decent and bruno looks very good.
Im not convinced by ole, i'm not convinced he would manage this Liverpool squad to the title if he were their manager.
But he will be given more time if we fail to get into cl next season he should be fired imo but if he's not ill just have to hope he does better next season but i'd have very little confidence in him.


18.) 11 Jun 2020 15:55:54
To be clear before i try to make a point. At the moment the jury on ole is still out for me. Maybe I will have more to go on once the season ends. As it stands he is our coach and has my support.
Mumbles I read this line in your post "My point and other poster's points has always been that there are better managers available. Better coaches with better track records. " twice.
And it had me wondering have we not tried those already?
1. Moyes - EPL experienced manager with consistency.
2. LVG - Certainly a better coach with a better track record.
3. Mou - Another 'better coach' with a great track record.

This why for me I want at least one full season under Ole before i decide.
I agreed with Moyes sacking simply because his former team Everton were suddenly better than us.
Agreed with LvG's sacking because Utd's game became a snore-fest
Had no issue with mou's departure because the whole team seemed toxic.

At least with Ole; I sense the camaraderie in the team, which has been missing since Fergie left. If ole can instill this aura in the team, then it is a step in the right direction.
Maybe if he is to leave, he leaves a TEAM behind and not just a collection of players.


 

 

06 May 2020 19:13:04
Grealish is an interesting target. Considering he plays predominantly in Brunos position and on the left, where we are pretty stacked. Hopefully he is a target replace Lingard in the squad. Could be a really good signing if we don't end up paying a fortune for him.

Mumbles

1.) 06 May 2020 19:38:34
i think the primary reason we are in for him is that it would be a relatively easy deal to do for the club.

Prem proven player at a relegation threatened club, would be an easy move for the player in terms of acclimatising and there probably won't be much competition at the price range speculated.

If we continue with 4-2-3-1 i think grealish could play in any of the three positions behind the striker.


2.) 06 May 2020 20:40:14
I like grealish, I think he looks like a united player.


3.) 06 May 2020 20:44:56
I don't see the hype in the guy really. Good player on his day but average a lot of the time. 50 mill for someone who repeatedly let's himself down with his off field behaviour, while captain of his club and when he knows other clubs were interested. Stupidity.


4.) 06 May 2020 21:40:50
The question for me is do we need a Grealish type or a Partey type midfield addition.
I am more swayed to the more HM role with Fred/ Mctominy playing the more box to box.


5.) 06 May 2020 21:55:05
I’m with Jred, he looks a united player to me.


6.) 07 May 2020 00:52:20
He is an awful player and should not be coming to our club.

He will be another flop.


7.) 07 May 2020 04:28:14
Singh if we sign him will he go on your list with maguire as a player you will never support?


8.) 07 May 2020 07:23:24
Agree singh, jred he does look like a player utd will sign post fergie, lots of flash little of substance, we already have a more talented version of grealish, who most on here hate.


9.) 07 May 2020 10:34:17
Is he a player City Liverpool Barcelona Madrid or Juve are likely to target. I would say definitely not good enough for them so no. Tjerefore he isn't good enough for us eitherm we need to sign top top players.


10.) 07 May 2020 10:44:01
My worry with Grealish is that he is coming from a club where everything revolved around him and made his strengths shine and glossed over his weaknesses. He won't replace Bruno or a DM in the starting 11, so its a choice between him, McTtom and Fred. Grealish has not shown he can track back like McTom or Fred or put in the miles. His dribbling is not going to be as effective in a team looking to play quick counter attacking football. At best he is a player to rotate with Bruno. I would rather we went in for a proper box to box player with a bit of height to help in set pieces.


11.) 07 May 2020 11:36:52
Is he any better than Ashley Young was when we signed him from Villa?

Young, English, right footed left winger. Grealish however, has made some pretty questionable decisions off the pitch at times.

I have also questioned where does he fit in the side? He doesn't push Rashford out on the left or Bruno out of No.10. Good squad player and better option on the bench than Lingard.

If he was that great a player and is available for such a steal you have to wonder why City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs aren't showing any serious interest in him.


12.) 07 May 2020 12:30:39
Grealish is a 'moment's ' player. He can do some top class stuff but does he do it often enough.
He does have that edge and unpredictability about him like many a united greats and is still only 24
He doesn't do it often enough for me. Could he produce moments more often at United. Possibly.
Im very much on the fence. I need some convincing but open minded.
Regardless of the price if he joined, petsonally i'd have limited expectations and be delighted if he shone.
For me most signings and young players fall into 3 categories.
Some i expect to have huge influence, others i'm hopeful but not expectant and then a few i expect to fail at United.
Grealish would fall into the middle one.


13.) 07 May 2020 14:00:01
Not a bad little player, bit greedy at times and is a big fish in a small pond at the moment in Villa.

I don't think he is a bad shout and could compete but like a lot of United signings, there are better options available.


14.) 07 May 2020 16:51:39
@ Salford7. Gone are the days where we would compete with the likes of Juve, Real, Barcelona etc for players because according to Ed02 this current version of Man United is viewed as a step down by the top players currently. The only reason they would join is because of wages and after 2 seasons will be wanting to leave in search of a new challenge.


15.) 07 May 2020 17:30:20
Its not about me supporting him or not. I Just don't think he is a United player unless yout standards have gone down, Nor is Maguire United wuality but there aren't that many CBs around.

I don't think Fwegie wouldve signed either Maguire or Grealish.

They are two over hyped english players.


16.) 07 May 2020 17:45:18
Really? Grealish? , is that where we are now?

I can just see us battling Madrid and City for his signature. Jeez.


17.) 08 May 2020 08:29:56
Sing really? Fergy signed kleberson, bebe, djemba to name a few . You make some strange comments.


 

 

03 May 2020 14:35:50
We play devil's advocate. If the season had finished and we finished 5th, would you be happy with Ole keeping his job?

Mumbles

1.) 03 May 2020 15:33:25
Absolutely!


2.) 03 May 2020 15:48:33
Yes. And If Man City's ban is upheld, we could possibly get CL qualification.

I feel Ole was not quite backed in the Summer window.
Selling our top scorer and not replacing him. Herrera was not replaced, resulting in team's reliance on Lingard, Pereira etc, as starters over a sustained period.
Long term injuries to Rashford, Pogba and McTominay exposed our lack of squad depth as well.

However, 2 crucial transfers in the winter market have helped us onto an unbeaten streak with a fantastic defensive record.

Just wondered if we had Bruno and Ighalo in the beginning of the season.
We could have had more spark in many of the drab draws and converted crucial missed penalties.


3.) 03 May 2020 15:48:36
A one word DLIB post. That's one of the signs of the apocalypse! A one word Shappy post and it's game over.


4.) 03 May 2020 16:03:35
TRD. We should have gotten Bruno over the line in the summer, that was a big mistake. But Ole played his hand with Lukaku from day one. He dropped him for Rashford who scored 3 goals in 14 games. Lukaku from the bench and the odd game was still getting consistent goals.

We also let Lukaku and Sanchez leave after the window had closed. We could not replace them. Ole talked about youth making up the rest of the squad.

Took over the club in 6th, finished 6th and then on course to finish 5th? Is that really good enough?


5.) 03 May 2020 17:12:10
No

It is more than about finishing 5th, it is another season drifting, if indeed we can play next season. Ed002 has given his opinion about Ole as a coach, unless Ole has changed and morphed into a top coach then why just stagger on.


6.) 03 May 2020 17:20:33
I wouldn't have him. I'd prefer to get a proper coach in.


7.) 03 May 2020 17:52:55
Yep, we are finally going in the right direction.


8.) 03 May 2020 17:55:51
Mumbles and the following season rash had 14 goals in 21 league games but more than that is really starting to look a top talent .
I would 100% take rash over lukaku.


9.) 03 May 2020 19:19:14
I was saying that Jred because TRD said the he wasn't backed. He let 2 players leave knowing they were not going to be replaced.

Those numbers are decent (5 were penalties) and he has been slowly improving Rashford but will be ever be an elite striker?

From 6th to 6th is the right direction?


10.) 03 May 2020 19:31:06
Mumbles. Lukaku wasn't suited to the way we played.
His touch was poor which caused link up plays to fizzle out.
It was best that both parties had gone their separate ways.
That said, the club should have definitely bought a replacement which they failed to.

I believe Ole is growing into the role. 2-3 quality signings will bring the best out of this squad.
Lukaku, Darmian, Sanchez, Young, Smalling, Rojo being cleared.
Improvement from personnals such as Fred, Matic, Shaw etc are positive signs.


11.) 03 May 2020 20:15:23
Yes I would be happy with Ole keeping his job. I think he has developed and improved as a manager, as well as developing and improving quite a few of the players such as, Martial, Rashford, Fred, Shaw, plus others.

I've always treated work as a place to develop and improve your skills and football is no different. Carrick and McKenna have also improved as coaches and I think we have begun to look a decent team, first time since Fergie's retirement.

Whether this can be maintained, time will tell but at the moment (or just before the lock down) Ole seems to be getting more things right than wrong.

Let us all get behind him, the staff and the team and hope that the momentum continues and carries us forward.


12.) 03 May 2020 20:20:58
No get rid. Club legends should never become Managers i always thought he was a stop gap . Should of backed Jose😷😷.


13.) 03 May 2020 20:56:46
Mumbles I think so, I really think rashford has made a step up this season.
I though he was playing some great stuff before the injury.


14.) 03 May 2020 21:23:18
Patience!


15.) 03 May 2020 21:46:50
Definitely.


16.) 03 May 2020 23:27:57
trd did edo2 not say ole has very little to do with ins and outs. so don't try and make him the great one. people above him are pulling the strings. untill that stops we will never be a top side again.

{Ed002's Note - He is one of a number of people with a voice - but identifying targets is not his job.}


17.) 03 May 2020 23:28:13
Keep. Deserves another season. Had our best players injured for most of the season and has brought the youth through.
Why sack a manager when we’re heading in the right direction?
I rather have a manager who understands the club and what we need with less on his CV than a successful manager who knows nothing about the club. Look what happened with Mourinho.
For the first time I am seeing direction and I’m enjoying it.
Remember. This terrible manager beat the so called ‘messiah’ 3 times this season.


18.) 04 May 2020 03:34:29
TRUMOURS. I would take Jose's 3 trophies in one year over Ole's city wins.


19.) 04 May 2020 11:30:17
Mumbles, seriously? Are we now counting the Charity shield as a genuine trophy?

At the start of this season I would have said that Ole would need to finish inside the top 4 to keep his job, as has been the standard before him.

Yet, on reflection I don't think it is as cut and dried as finishing in the top 4. As a club we have had a huge fall from grace, and it is a long road back. So in hindsight when considering the season we have had up until this point. We have seen progress, many players are developing and improving, many of the players fans didn't think were good enough have left either permanently or on loan. While others seem to be on borrowed time, with it looking like Jones, Rojo and Lingard not having long term futures under Ole. While the players we have signed have worked out well, that partially goes down to good scouting but also the managers ability to help those players settle and integrate into the squad. Of which Ole has a hand in both.

Where would we be this season if we had a fully fit Pogba, while Rashford, Martial and McTominay have all missed a couple of months due to injury, in the case of both Rashford and McTominay this happened while they were arguably our most in form players.

Likewise where would we have been had the club pushed through the deal for Bruno Fernandes last summer rather than in January?

I think its fair to say injuries to key players and the club not signing Bruno last summer are just as key to where we finish this season as to what tactical decisions the manager makes.

I think it would be fair to give him another year and see where this goes, a couple more key signings in the summer, with continued progression of players like Fred, McTominay, Rashford, Shaw, Williams and Greenwood. If it falls apart next season then Ole will face the same fate as all other managers at United for whom it fell apart.

However, the team is starting to have an identity and is improving, now would be a silly time to sack the manager.


20.) 04 May 2020 11:55:32
Completely agree Shappy.


21.) 04 May 2020 12:18:59
Meanwhile, Poch doesn't have a club and it seems like potential DoFs are not falling over themselves to work with Solksjaer. How much no DoF and a rookie manager affects our recruitment is unknown, but I don't imagine top players are beating a path to our door because of the manager.

It just seems like the club are making do atm rather than seeking out the very best in managerial and coaching talent.


22.) 04 May 2020 14:00:53
Okay shappy, don't count it as a trophy, but can we count the others?

I think it's the perfect time to get in a proper coach. A couple of more transfers, tied in with the hiring of a very good coach would greatly benefit us going forward.

Sticking with Ole is not the right choice. Would love to be wrong but the poor guy is just so out of his depth.


23.) 04 May 2020 14:22:23
A proper coach like Jose?
Ole hasn't had a full season yet .
Each to there own i think we have taken a step in the right direction and ole has been a breath of fresh air . Looking above several seem to agree a few won't .
Time will tell, I think we will do well next season, even with amatures, all theses poor players and such a poor manager as people keep telling me.


24.) 04 May 2020 14:25:20
Should also say I think the europa and fa Cup ate still winnable if the season restarts.


25.) 04 May 2020 14:50:00
MancMan, our biggest transfer target is Jadon Sancho. From what is being said he would happily sign for our club if we can provide UCL football, not on who the manager is.

So who are manager is doesn't appear to be having a negative effect on our ability to sign players. As KDB said the other day, him extending his contact isn't dependent on Pep extending. He has said he has worked under multiple managers and he will continue to.

Angel, of course the others count. My point about the Charity shield is that come the end of the season if that is all you've won you don't chant about it. It's a glorified pre-season friendly. But the League cup and the Europa League do obviously.

If the club sacks a manager while things are going well then how will that look?


26.) 04 May 2020 19:49:44
Ah jerd, don't be silly now, sure that Jose was useless, never won us anything 😂

I'd love to be wrong, honestly, I loved him as a player and the romantic in me would love nothing more than to have him steer this club to greatness again.

But after watching us over the last year and a half, I think we have gotten worse tactically, void of answers when not playing counter attacking football and aside from the sheer brilliance of rashford and in the last few games, the new addition of Bruno, we have not been very good.

I mean, Oles record speaks for itself as full time manager, its pretty abysmal for Manchester United. Find ourselves lucky that others seem to be imploding around us.

All of this coupled with the knowledge of ed002, who, let's face it, has an incredible track record of calling things, really leaves me scratching my head as to why we have continued on this path with him?

But I suppose it all makes more sense when we have a bunch of amateurs running the club making amateur like decisions.


27.) 04 May 2020 20:46:52
No doubt in 12 months when Poch, Allegri and any other decent manager are doing well somewhere else, people will come on here and say there was no one available this summer, no one was interested in being our manager. The only option was of course OGS. We are drifting.


28.) 04 May 2020 21:50:24
Angle

Why are we lucky that others are imploding? If there all so great.
and well run why are they not doing better?

Has ole record really been abysmal? He took over a team really struggling under jose, awful to watch and going backwards. We have improved since then but its a big job sorting out the mess jose left, like he always does after his 3rd year implosing .

If you can't see an improvement then that your opinion but we are a better team than when jose left .
This season imo won't get finished but we are still in the QF of both thd FA and Europe .
Jose was great ole abysmal? not average or below average but abysmal.
I disagree, but your never happy unless your being negative about someone. Looks like its oles turn.


29.) 04 May 2020 22:06:16
I should also add, fellini and lukaku, sanchez decent players but Jose type players. Players that suit jose and his brand needed moved and ole and the amatures have done that.
But it takes time to build.
Ddg Shaw (I no you can't stand him ) but i rate him, maguire awb, lindelof. Young Williams I like that .
Fred has come on mctom looks a player, I'm not a big fan of matic but to be fair he has done OK pogba and bruno . Again I'm happy add grealish who I like even better.

Rash martial ighalo James I like, we need another and sancho I think would be great. Again I'm happy
This season imo Injuries killed us, dropped daft points but I think would of still got 4th and had a really good chance in both cups.
Thats not abysmal in my book . And would of been better with a fully fit pogba martial mctom and rashford. They where big loses imo.

I like the direction we have taken since Jose was sacked. We looked a shambles before that, under lvg as well . But for me this looks like the first time we have had a clear plan since fergy left .


30.) 05 May 2020 09:16:47
Shappy, of course you can find one supposed example of a player who's just interested in the money (sancho won't be coming for the weather), but how many players don't we know about declining to sign for us because of Solkswho?


31.) 05 May 2020 10:11:40
MancMan, I don't think who the manager is plays a huge part in the decision to move your whole family half way round Europe or the world for most players.

Very few managers stay longer than 3 years most player contracts are for 4 or 5 years. Meaning that very few players sign for a club and only have that manager during their time at that club.

If a player is more interested in playing for a specific manager rather than playing for Manchester United then they aren't the right player for our club. We have seen over the past 6-7 years that signing players who come for money or because it's a certain manager hasn't been able to bring us sustained success.

As Keane has said many times playing for Manchester United should mean something, it should be your aim to play for our club and if it isn't then your not the right player for our club.

If a player won't sign because of Solskjaer then clearly they don't really want to play for our club and they would be unlikely to give 100% for our club. As we are seeing with Pogba.


32.) 05 May 2020 17:21:25
Shappy, answer me this. do you think Everton are more attractive to prospective players with Ancelotti managing them rather than Sam Allerdyce?


33.) 06 May 2020 08:12:04
Probably not. I rate Ancelotti, but him being manager of Everton isn't going to make them title contenders, him being manager isn't going to add an extra 100k a week to the contract offer to a player, and him being manager doesn't change the fact that you'll be living in Liverpool if you sign for Everton.

The only thing that will change whether a player would consider signing for Everton is if they qualified for the UCL. Players want to play on the biggest stage and win things. Unless Everton's managerial change lifts them to that level it is unlikely to alter who would be prepared to sign for them.


34.) 06 May 2020 10:02:20
Those are all good points Shappy and they all could be said about Solksjaer and Manchester.


35.) 06 May 2020 10:38:57
I expect to a small extent the manager does play some sort of role to a player when factoring where they move. I would imagine to a player it would be more important that the manager actually wants them and has some sort of plan as to how they fit into a side more than what the manager has won at other clubs in the past.

Ancelotti had a fantastic UCL record, yet no one will sign for Everton based on that as they aren't even in the UCL. They might not even be in the Europa League.

At this moment in time we need players who want to play for Manchester United, not players who want to play for a particular manager. To that end having Ole in charge shouldn't hurt our chances of signing players.

If players moved to United based on who the manager is then how do you explain the number of high profile players who snubbed us when we had the greatest modern era manager at our club?

Truth is players pick club's on three main factors for the most part. Wages, location and prestige/ chances to win trophies.


36.) 07 May 2020 14:38:22
Exactly Shappy. Putting aside wages and prestige (with which we can compete with anyone), it's about the chance to win trophies. This is something the calibre of manager directly affects.

So, any player with the choice of several prestigous clubs, all offering decent wages and most in 'better' locations, Utd needs to offer an equal if not better chance of winning trophies. And how many has Solksjaer won in his illustrious managerial career? More importantly, how close does he look to winning trophies?

The alternative has been that we have to pay them way over the odds to join because they know they have sod all chance of winning anything.

Add to that an undefined way of playing with no clear style and I think Solkjaer is a hindrance rather than an asset when it comes to signing top players.

Your right that even Fergie wasn't enough to attract some players but you can't win them all and I would imagine there were some players who were persuaded to join because Fergie was the manager. I can't imagine there is anybody who wants to join because Solksjaer is the manager.


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2020 19:24:24
Joining this page years ago was like joining the Matrix. Take the red pill and the ugly truth will be revealed. The truth being that we have serious issues running from the top to the bottom of the club.

Should have taken the blue pill safe in the knowledge that we're the biggest club in the world, United D. N. A and all that tribal nonsense.

We seem to be going in the wrong direction off the pitch whilst being left behind by our main rivals on it.

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7 more of those performances and Ole may get my blessing.

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19 Jun 2020 16:04:10
If our previous negotiations are anything to go by, we'll bid a lower amount, only to sign him next year for more than we could get him for now.

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17 Jun 2020 14:10:05
So who does the book stop with? The owners aren't involved in the day to day running of the club. It can't be Woodward making all the decisions.

We're clearly crying out for someone to lead the way off the pitch. Ambling from manager to manager, backing them one season and then leaving them enough rope to hang themselves the next.

We've been supposedly courting a DOF for a couple of years but somehow can't find a suitable one. As you said the structure of the club at the minute isn't suited to a DOF coming in. Are they aware we're struggling on the pitch?

The biggest worry for me is that people making the decisions are genuinely content with us floating around top 4 as long as the money is still rolling in.

I know none of this is an easy fix, but we seem to be happy with our name linked to these people but have no interest in actually bringing them on board.

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31 May 2020 17:34:47
It's his new e-Sports team.

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28 May 2020 17:38:33
Must have been quite a productive meeting.

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01 Jul 2020 21:49:07
It's in our hands now. We're playing some great football, easiest run of fixtures too. We're hitting form at the right time. No excuses.

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27 Jun 2020 21:03:53
There will be a couple of more of those types of games this season. No crowd to lift the players, it will go flat at times.

Main thing is the win. The Martial sub for Bailey was what I'd like to see more from the manager. An aggressive one that helped us get the win.

The players should be fine on Tuesday.

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27 Jun 2020 18:07:26
I'll say well done, good job. He's done the bare minimum in getting top 4 and always great to win some pots. If he does that then he's earned the right to be our manager on merit and he'll be judged on results next season instead of sentiment.

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27 Jun 2020 15:59:08
Brad, Ole is not Klopp. We are not on the same path as Liverpool were under him. Can you see us winning the Champions league in Oles 3rd season? Winning the league in his 4th? Considering he has had 18 months already.

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27 Jun 2020 01:15:31
We have the fifth best goal record, fifth best defence, we're fifth for a lot of stats. One or two players won't lift us into the contender brackets.

Would we be in a different situation if we had Smalling instead of Maguire all season? Hard to say.

If we had of signed Bruno in August I think we're comfortably sitting 3rd but we'd still be way off the top.

We need to be ruthless with this squad. No not signing a striker because Greenwood has bags of potential. No not signing a midfielder because McTominay is doing ok. We could honestly do upgrading our centre backs, central midfielders, right wing and striker.

Martial is doing great but he can't disappaer for 3 games now. Next year we won't be near the title winners but we should be ready to pounce 21/ 22 season when hopefully the wheels come off the Liverpool project and Pep has burnt out City.

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