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12 Jan 2023 13:25:55
Hi ed002 Moukono from BD in Germany has had a great breakthrough season.
I understand his contact expires in June and he at the time of writing this has not signed a new deal or a pre contract agreement with anybody else.
Do you know where he will go to or do you think he will reach agreement with BD?
Who are the interested parties? He is being tipped for a very bright future.


{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are inralks.}

1.) 12 Jan 2023 14:54:33
Would it be easier to say who Chelsea aren't in talks with ?.

2.) 12 Jan 2023 15:04:42
On a serious note the times I've seen Moukoko he has looked a very bright player with bags of potential.

I'm not sure if he is ready to be the main man for a side that is expected to challenge for the league and UCL. Maybe another season or two at Dortmund would be best for him, or maybe as an understudy to an aging player at a top club. I could see him rotating round or playing the final 20 minutes for someone like Lewandowski or Benzema at Barcelona or Real Madrid. Getting that experience but without the pressure to be the man.

But then maybe the pressure of being the man might be the thing that makes him. You never know what you can handle until you are tested.

3.) 12 Jan 2023 15:55:28
I personally am wary of taking BvB players after Kagawa and Mhki's spells. And presently Sancho.

4.) 12 Jan 2023 17:44:42
mbd, it's horses for courses. Donny has struggled coming from Ajax, Martinez has been excellent.

Dortmund have tended to play a specific way, and the players who excelled there did so because that style suited them.

That high counter pressing system.

Some players will be able to play a different way, some won't.

Gotze struggled moving to Bayern from Dortmund, Hummels was average, but Lewandowski was excellent for Bayern.

I wouldn't write off all Dortmund players, but it would definitely be better to sign players who are playing well in a team that plays a similar style to how the manager wants this United side to play.

5.) 12 Jan 2023 18:54:45
Chelsea seem to be signing two teams, players for now who don't seem to be working out well and a bunch of youngsters for the future that it's far too early Roo tell with.

6.) 13 Jan 2023 07:29:48
Didn't City sign a Dortmund striker who turned out ok?

7.) 13 Jan 2023 11:52:11
Laughed out Loud then at Shappys response. True tho, just need a run down of who Chelsea are leaving to the rest of us ?.

8.) 17 Jan 2023 14:38:21
I take my hat off to Chelsea, they’ve managed to save money by doing away with their whole scouting and recruitment team……they wait until a rival is interested in a player and then pull the trigger. Their best scouting client is Arsenal football club!



23 Dec 2022 11:36:01
Good morning ed002
Merry Christmas.
I know this is a long shot but I read this morning that psg have an interest in Fred.
Can you confirm or deny? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach.}

1.) 23 Dec 2022 13:14:51
Would rather we got rid of McTominay before Fred.

2.) 23 Dec 2022 14:26:18
What a Christmas present that would be.

3.) 23 Dec 2022 17:24:53
Would rather keep Fred over McTominnay all day every day.

4.) 23 Dec 2022 19:38:33
Fred get a lot of unfair stick, he's decent at breaking up play and always gives 100%. Not saying he's a starter everyweek but he's better than people give him credit for.

5.) 23 Dec 2022 20:14:49
Danny, I agree, but if someone is going to give us 30m for him then I'd snatch their hand off.

6.) 23 Dec 2022 21:57:05
Fred does a lot of running, and playing behind Messi, Neymar and Mbappe means someone has to do a hell of a lot of running about.

7.) 24 Dec 2022 13:21:11
We activated his extra year on his contract. I thought we couldn't profit from that? Or does that only kick in if we try sell him in the summer?

{Ed002's Note - Clubs cannot do it simply to profiteer.}

8.) 24 Dec 2022 16:02:47

If a club activates a one year option on a player, then a club comes in and makes a transfer proposal, would that still be profiteering if they didn't know about any prior interest in the player?

If possible could you give a quick explanation on this matter?


9.) 26 Dec 2022 11:59:13
That's what I thought, anyway rather keep Fred for another season and sell mctominay was on Wednesday night was beyond bad, was utterly awful. Quite like Fred and can actually control the ball.



07 Dec 2022 00:51:52
Hi Ed002. Do you have any insight with regards to Dalot's future.
In my opinion he is without doubt the most improved player in our squad this season
I'll be the first to say he has been playing better than I ever expected and has started to fulfill the potential many spoke about.
He like a lot of the squad have very little time left on their contracts dalot Fred rashford Jones tuanzebe Shaw ddg.
I think dalot will attract good offers from elsewhere so was curious to know if the club want him to stay and will offer him a new deal or if he would rather move?


{Ed002's Note - Diego Dalot (RB) Will stay for now with Aaron Wan-Bissaka out of favour and available.}



23 Jul 2022 15:23:45
A question I've been asking you for 3 years now and I know it's a player you have said you feel would be a better fit than fdj. I've said ideally I'd like them both to sign.
SMS, and I know you have said he is a possible alternative. But there has been little mention of him in the press for last few weeks until again they appeared this morning.
Have we stepped up or made contact recently with lazio or his agent? Or is this rehashing of old stories?
If you heard anything new it would be music to my ears.


{Ed002's Note - He is an alternative to FdJ. That is all I know.}

1.) 23 Jul 2022 16:24:18
Thanks ed002.



18 Jul 2022 17:03:05
Ed 002 interesting reply down below on the French rb Clauss.
Outside the elite players or obvious starters. Do the players look for assured game time in order to sign?
Would a player like clauss looking at coming to united not look at who's here and back himself to compete and win the position?
I'm sure there are some players who sign well aware they will be cover but I'm not sure there is a clear starter at rb at united.
Thanks for any insight perhaps I'm just a little old school for the modern player.
Thanks also for your updates opinions and clarity on all the gossip and rumour.


{Ed002's Note - He would want to be starter. He is no youngster.}

1.) 18 Jul 2022 17:58:18
Be wanting a World Cup spot to so will be wanting to play regularly too I’d imagine.

2.) 18 Jul 2022 18:03:29
Scrap that, just seen 02 mention his French place below.

3.) 18 Jul 2022 21:11:30
If there is one Lens player we are going for it should be Seko Fofana. Underrated and a few of the bigger sides across Europe could do far worse than him.

4.) 18 Jul 2022 21:22:49
Dumfries please.

5.) 19 Jul 2022 10:04:55
Clauss came out of nowhere, next day he is signing for Marseille. We do get linked to so many players that in reality are non starters.




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27 Feb 2023 10:05:50
Ddg on top form yesterday.
Eth called him out as a leader too alongside cas and varane.
I really hope he stays. Right up there for player of the season for me although he will be pipped for that by rashford or casimero I suspect.
I honestly can't think of a better keeper for united right now than ddg.
He passed the club clean sheet record yesterday too. He is without doubt a united legend imo and still relatively young for a keeper.
Get him dalot rash and garnacho signed up as soon as possible is my view.


1.) 27 Feb 2023 10:57:03
I think DDG will stay so long as he accepts the wages being offered. He offers so much and appears to have a strong relationship with the team and back 4 especially.
We know that he is not the best with ball at feet and there are times when your heart is in mouth as he panic passes to the opposition (he does appear to be working on this so will only get better) but I get the feeling EtH sees that he offers far more than the negative. We also have too many other positions that we need to address/ improve so goalkeeper should be good for a few years and maybe bring in a young one to blood behind him.
We will need a striker, another central midfielder, right back and cental defender.

2.) 27 Feb 2023 11:15:46
I'd go all out for Bruno Guimaraes for cm in the summer. I think he'd be perfect with Casemiro, Fernandes and Eriksen.

3.) 27 Feb 2023 11:34:12
I’m not over keen on Dalot just think he’s average I personally prefer AWB who I think has been excellent this season.

4.) 27 Feb 2023 13:06:43
BR he’s definitely been very good since the World Cup. Even looks a bit better on the ball now.

5.) 27 Feb 2023 13:48:24
I think awb has been great since the wc.
Played really well yesterday in 2nd half.

6.) 27 Feb 2023 18:09:59
Under Ten Hag, DD and AWB have both kicked on this year. The question I guess is whether under ETH these two can keep improving and hiw far they could go.



22 Feb 2023 18:16:13
Tough fixture obviously tomorrow. We only need to look at how clinical Madrid were last night.
We got a good draw over there. A match we could have won 2 5 we could equally have lost it 5 2.
In some ways both teams play into each others hands.
Eth has a couple of tough selections.
Ddg midge varaneand Shaw all look sure to start. Eth will have to make a choice of awb or dalot to fill the defence.
Casimero and Bruno look sure again with the choice for eth between Fred or sabitzer.
Weggy rash and sancho look like filling the forward roles. With garnacho a great option from the bench.
We will need to be at our very best, we will need a slice of luck and we will have to beat their running stats.
Looking forward to it, hopefully the home crowd will be jumping.


1.) 22 Feb 2023 19:42:49
I would pick AWB at right back. Barcelona like to use the full width of the pitch and I think defence is the key to this tie.

2.) 23 Feb 2023 07:09:30
I think you have the team fairly spot on Ken. I think he will go AWB just for his pace and recovery going backwards. I'm also hoping Sabitzer gets the nod, as it would be nice to see those 3 play together from the start.

Barcelona are down a few players, but that aside I have great confidence in this team to get it done.

I'm sure Xavi meant no disrespect, but by referring to Bruno as the 'Portuguese one', I'm sure he's lit a fire underneath him. Well, if it was me, that's what i'd be doing.

Should be a cracking game.

3.) 23 Feb 2023 09:17:56
Win or Lose if we play with the same desire and positive attitude that we displayed at the Nou Camp I will be satisfied. If we play like that and win, then I will be over the moon.

4.) 23 Feb 2023 10:12:06
Let's hope we don't have referee Barcelona have had on the payroll.

5.) 23 Feb 2023 14:04:42
Like the one that missed Fred's handball last week.
Whatever happens the ref will make less mistakes than most of our players tonight.
The ref will not decide our fate I think we all need to stop taking about refs. They don't play.
Bla. ing and moaning about refs makes you sound like a Liverpool fan or pep.

6.) 23 Feb 2023 14:47:38
The humour was lost on you then Ken.
Still, on a more serious note, I don't think the rest of the La Liga teams will quite see it your way, giving one incident of a handball at the weekend going our way against years of payments to a refereeing association stretching into millions (at the moment it's up to 7 million euros! and rising), is a little out of context.
To make me more like a Liverpool fan I'd have to be debating and justifying how each and every player in the team is the best player in the world in their respective position. which I don't do.
At the end of the day, it's a banter site and even if I did want to moan about a referee which has been going on since the beginning of time then I'll do that if I want to. You don't even need to reply if you don't want to.

7.) 23 Feb 2023 14:46:01
I think ETH will go with Fred tonight over Sabitzer and get him to do, or try and do a job of De Jong same as the Nou Camp.

8.) 23 Feb 2023 14:54:46
Weghorst and Fred will sandwich De Jong again cutting supply. Or Weghorst on Busquets and Fred on De Jong.



15 Feb 2023 13:38:29
Away tomorrow night v Barcelona.
Tough fixture.
Hoping to come away with a win it's hard to know how this will pan out.


1.) 15 Feb 2023 13:46:51
I'm not overly confident but hopeful.

2.) 15 Feb 2023 13:55:58
Not entirely sure the rules anymore but do away goals still count? Arsenal v City draw tonight, we don’t lose tomorrow and win Sunday would be a nice few days. This next 10 days will really shape our season so be good to get it off to a nice start tomorrow.

{Ed002's Note - They don't count.}

3.) 15 Feb 2023 16:00:49
1-1 I think.

4.) 15 Feb 2023 17:50:40
I think we will lose, I hope not but believe we will.

5.) 15 Feb 2023 18:05:36
Given the circumstances it's probably our toughest fixture this season.

I'm hopeful but not expecting.

6.) 15 Feb 2023 18:18:37
Quietly confident that we win the game tomorrow. Its games like these that have become somewhat of a speciality for us. Barcelona will push and leave space in behind for our sprinters. Unless ofcourse we concede early.

7.) 16 Feb 2023 08:24:09
UA, if we didn't have so many players out then I'd probably feel more confident.

But without Martinez, Eriksen, Sabitzer, Antony, Martial, McTominay and Donny I'm less confident as the options for EtH are extremely limited.

In midfield he pretty much has to play Casemiro, Fred and Bruno as the only other options are kids.

He has to choose between playing Shaw at CB or Maguire. Neither are ideal as if you play Shaw there then you lose him at LB. Whereas if you play Maguire there then you have Maguire on the pitch?‍♂️

Dalot probably isn't ready to start the game, which means playing AWB against a side that likes to press and will take advantage of his poorer technical ability. Although his ability to win tackles will probably be important.

We have Rashford, Weghorst, Sancho, Garnacho and Elanga to chose from for forward options. Which again means that any changes from the bench probably means bringing on a kid.

This is the sort of game that will be a tactical battle, and unfortunately EtH due to injuries and suspensions is going into it with one hand tied behind his back with both limited options from the start and from the bench.

{Ed001's Note - you've lost me on the bit about losing Shaw at LB. That sounds like a positive to me.}

8.) 16 Feb 2023 09:34:02
I really fear for us tonight.
Barca are domestically in great form scoring loads of goals.
They have some terrific attacking players and can score from all parts of the pitch.
It's going to be a real tough game, i just hope we can somehow hang in there and still be in with a fighting chance when we get them back to OT.

9.) 16 Feb 2023 10:13:48
I think we can come away with a result tonight, I would take a draw but I think we could get the win. Whilst Barcelona are on a good run of results I don't think they have been pulling up any trees so it should be a good game.
I am looking forward to seeing FdJ and how they are deploying him.
Team wise I think it picks itself with so many players out, Shaw will play CB as it feels this has been the long term plan since Matinez was going to be missing. I also expect AWB to get a game for his extra defensive play over Dalot in the first leg. Fred, Cassimero and Fenandes in the middle and expect Sancho, Rashford and Weghorst to start with Garnacho coming on when players are tiring.

10.) 16 Feb 2023 09:23:24
Lol ed001. I think he has played well this season, although Malacia looks a certain starter for the future.

11.) 16 Feb 2023 10:39:21
If they had been so great, wouldn't they be still in the CL and not vying for a spot in Europa. Domestic form depends on who you are playing against and with Madrid rebuilding and Atletico with their issues, who is challenging them? Yes we have injuries but that is where the character comes into picture. Barcelona don't have Messi anymore. I am confident EtH will have a plan.



07 Feb 2023 23:42:36
Antony needs to understand that its a better game when you play with a smile on your face. He needs to accept he will be kicked and roughed up he can't go kicking off every time he gets a kicking. Keep smiling and let toy football do the talking.
Same goes for garnacho.
We need them to show all the desire and passion just lose the petulance please.


1.) 08 Feb 2023 02:33:48
Ken, I agree. But to be fair to Antony, he was dangerously pushed into the hoardings by the CP player which then created the fight. Its disappointing that the players lost their composure, but the referee was also to blame as Schlup and the other CP player holding Fred by the neck should also have been dismissed. We then had Hughes (who we all know is a Liverpool fan) goading the crowd by making the number 5 gesture, again missed by the referee and var.
Going forward, we need to make sure the younger players understand the need for self control and also, they need to accept the manager's decisions without any questions or purulent actions. It's all part of the growing up and maturing process. But sadly, SM plays a big part in their actions these days, as they are led to believe that they're more important than they are. In the olden days, I've seen managers physically attack their players for not toeing the line. There needs to be discipline at some stage.
ETH and other managers have a hard job as it is without this behaviour by certain players. But I have every confidence in ETH to handle these situations to perfection.

2.) 08 Feb 2023 03:56:19
What has he done now?

3.) 08 Feb 2023 07:57:29
I agree especially with Antony. His petulance is excessive and he always seems to have a nasty look on his face as if everyone is against him. And his level of performance so far doesn't warrant such sideshows. I'm sure the coaches must have noticed and had a word with him.

4.) 08 Feb 2023 08:18:29
I have always considered Antony as 'gettable'. He WILL react. Expect him to be targeted more in the future. He's an easy red card and opposition are beginning to recognise that. I wasn't too surprised to be honest but it's a shame the reaction of Antony kicked off the incident that led to a red card for Casemiro.

5.) 08 Feb 2023 09:22:52
Yeah yeah I get it I’m repeating myself to the extent of a broken record….


Anthony is too predictable. Any defender worth his salt will push him constantly to his right foot. Denis Irwin would have been laughing! The result is that he gets very little out of his possession and becomes frustrated and allows himself to be baited to the extent of petulance.

If he sorted out his right foot and added that to his obvious skill set then the element of doubt then creeps into the defenders mind. They then need to stand up more and therefore open up to be exploited by pace.

He then gets more out his possession and by default has a more productive game and bingo!, his mood improves.

I would suggest that he is in a crappy mood because he is playing at a higher level where defenders are not so easy to beat by pace alone and has effectively been found out…. at this stage in his career.

Before anyone jumps at my throat. I like him and really hope he can add this to his repertoire. He is clearly a class player but needs to believe his stats rather than his own press.

Too many similar players have fallen by the wayside inn this fashion.

6.) 08 Feb 2023 09:32:16
Young player reacts to provocation, it's another part of the game that they have to learn to deal with in the men's game.

It will happen, it does to all youngsters, he will learn not only how to deal with it but how to take advantage of it. Just as older players know when to leave a leg in, know when to commit a foul to stop a disadvantageous situation developing, know how to ride a heavy challenge safely, you see many an old pro just before he gets clattered take the foot from the pitch for a good reason.

There is a lot more to playing football than just running or technical skill and these lads are still in the learning phase of the career.

7.) 08 Feb 2023 10:02:18
Yet it was the most experienced and decorated player on the pitch that received the red card?! So why the criticism on Antony. Surely Casemiro deserves the most criticism for foolishly getting sent off and weakening us for the next 3 matches?

He’s a street fighter, that nasty streak is what gives him the fire in his belly and what will make him a top player.

8.) 08 Feb 2023 14:34:16
Ken's comment wasn't about Casemiro, who will have to take his suspension. This is the way it is, and it's a lesson we learn as early as pre-school. It's often not the instigator who receives the punishment. The player who ensure Antony took a slide off United's inherently dangerous drop off got away with it, as did Antony. It was a later participant in the fray that got the red card. The CP player should have got one too and the player who used excessive and unnecessary force to remove Antony from the field should have received a yellow. VAR and the referee handled the whole melee very poorly. But that's football. Do what they may there will always be disagreements about refereeing.

As for Antony, he does seem to stroll around the field like a bad tempered child. He's 22, he needs to grow up quick. His facial expressions seem to exhibit an uncontrolled stroppy moodiness that is very unattractive in and of itself. But modern football, both on the personal and team level is about control, and Antony needs to get it over his emotions. You're making £10m a year playing football with an opportunity for it to be a whole lot more. Let yourself enjoy the game. all of it.

9.) 08 Feb 2023 17:15:39
Amazing to think that was casimeros 1st straight red of his career.

10.) 08 Feb 2023 18:47:01
The expert pundit that is Agbonlawhore publicly stated that he believed Casemiro “should be arrested for throttling a player”. Can’t help but chuckle ?.

11.) 09 Feb 2023 08:17:13
Dies anyone take Agbonlahor seriously as a pundit?



04 Feb 2023 01:12:59
Some really good threads over last 24 hrs on both polls.
On the 1st 1 98% satisfaction with eth is a great endorsement and I was delighted to see that.
On the 2nd poll
I genuinely respect everyones point of view its such an emotive subject.
The club have been clear on the next steps.
I will accept whatever decision the club make.
For some that will mean they won't support the club anymore but that is their perogative and I would neither condemn that or try to change their mind.
I would never condemn anybody without the full facts I'll never know them I don't think I have a right know them. I'm happy to let others decide people that will have the more intimate knowledge of all the facts.


1.) 04 Feb 2023 07:23:17
Very fair ken.

2.) 04 Feb 2023 09:41:22
As we are in a new era, new manager and a new way of playing, he isn’t needed so let him leave.
The things i saw before this happened online i didn't like him so haven’t missed him and won't when he leaves.

3.) 04 Feb 2023 09:51:19
Kept quiet on MG and this weeks news. When the incident first broke my feelings were to get him out the club immediately and never let him near the club again and quite frankly, football. My feelings now are not to far of that either. But situation has changed and the club are in a tricky situation. I know my feelings on it but I just have to trust the club does what they believe is the right thing and not be driven by what he can do on the pitch.

If the club take him back, I’m not going to stop supporting the club, I don’t believe anyone can do that but I certainly won’t support the player. Sadly, if he plays and scores a winner against Liverpool in the 90th minute I’ll cheer as loud as any fan but I hope I will not be singing his name and lauding his name! And I sincerely hope the emotion of football does not suck me into that.

If the club take him back, I hope he is made to attend some sort of counselling, promote, endorse and support charities that are against everything he was accused of. I guess this cannot be written into his contract but simply allowing him back is not enough for me personally.

On a side note, I wonder how the rest of the squad feel about him returning potentially and whether they have been spoken to? This squad seem like they have a great atmosphere at the moment, best at the club in the last 10 years, how would they react to any decision the club would make?!

4.) 04 Feb 2023 11:40:14
Good post Ports.

5.) 04 Feb 2023 12:18:29
The weirdest thing about it all though is they're still together
She’s either very stupid, Money driven or it wasn’t as bad as it has been portrayed.

I think he’s just another stupid immature thinks he’s above the law, footballer.

We should cut ties in my opinion. Pay him off if we have too.

6.) 04 Feb 2023 14:15:03
Fzz your point is a good one imo.
We are in a new era.
If and its a big if and Greenwood does stay then who is to say that MG is exactly the type of cf that eth wants. He has never played for a top coach who knows how his game will evolve.
He may well decide that he doesn't want to play anymore or he may well decide he does but not at united or even in UK. So many unknowns at this stage.

7.) 04 Feb 2023 14:36:51
I personally feel we have a duty to our next generation of supporters ( my lad is 10 ) to set the right example of how to conduct yourself. He / they all heard and saw the videos and that to me is far more important than a criminal enquiry. Cut ties and carry on the good feelings we have in and around the club . Somethings are more important than football and I want my lads club to show him the right way to behave towards women and others .

8.) 04 Feb 2023 14:15:03
Fzz your point is a good one imo.
We are in a new era.
If and its a big if and Greenwood does stay then who is to say that MG is exactly the type of cf that eth wants. He has never played for a top coach who knows how his game will evolve.
He may well decide that he doesn't want to play anymore or he may well decide he does but not at united or even in UK. So many unknowns at this stage.

9.) 04 Feb 2023 15:27:31
I would never look to presuppose a female victim of Domestic Abuse reasonings.

Sometimes they really just love someone so much they want to be with them inspite of events.

Some believe that they themselves can change them, some believe the person will change.

Some are broken by events and really every other possible option in between.

One would hope she has had good support and is asking the decision that she will be happiest in making, and if so then it's the right choice for her.

It really is impossible to say or second guess. And I have learnt that as a physically fit, mentally strong, white 40 something year old male that not everyone thinks like me or follows what I think is rationale logic.

10.) 04 Feb 2023 19:39:07
How does anyone know its not their thing . might be role playing they are into (MG) i'm guessing that would have been his defence in court but now there are no charges he can tell that to all and sundry and who can say now he is lying if shes not going to contradict him?

11.) 05 Feb 2023 17:39:46
Asides from the obvious discussions above how about we look at it from a club perspective?

Can the club afford to have the stigma of this hanging around its neck when it is just about to get itself back on its feet?

Does the club need this at a playing level distracting players from their progress?

Yes the club could be seen as being proactive in supporting a troubled player, but it could also be seen as not accepting such behaviour and setting an example to the next generation of players coming through and more importantly to young male fans everywhere.

And from a business perspective how will any decision affect any prospective sponsor and other commercial deals. A lot more to it than just the issue at hand when it comes to club decision.

12.) 05 Feb 2023 20:28:39
No one has said this yet, but I believe it is true, and It is not the focus of discussions now but.

I would expect Greenwood to develop fantastically under ETH. I don't think all the Charlie big potato stories and attitude would be allowed under ETH. I am just about as sure as I could be that ETH would be the perfect man to turn Greenwood into a world Class striker because Greenwood always was potentially that.

This post isn't about the other stuff because that's being dealt with by the club, I just feel that Greenwood was/ is a player with the very highest ceiling to his game and that ETH would probably be perfect for him.

I am not saying or hinting I think he should stay or go just what I believe is something to be true.

13.) 06 Feb 2023 10:40:58
Keefy - re stigma I do appreciate the 2 cases are different but I don’t recall any concerns over Ronaldo’s rape allegation. I’m old enough to remember alleged behaviour by Jonny Evans and even further back Clayton Blackmore. Let’s not forget Van Persie also had a rape allegation when he was at Arsenal.

My point is, if there’s stigma attached to whatever actions it decides over Greenwood, is it any different from the above?

We will all have a view on Greenwood and whether he should even kick a ball again let alone play for United. Regardless what United decide I will support the club. As it’s the club that I love. It’s not the players, the manager, even the stadium - all those are subject to change. The club and my love for it never changes though.

I find the ‘I’ll stop supporting United if we don’t sack Greenwood’ or even more hilarious the ‘I don’t want the Saudis etc to own us’ bizarre quite frankly. If anyone really needs to put any caveats on it then they need to ask themselves are they really ‘supporting’ us anyway.

As for Greenwood, my personal wish is we would cut all ties. I think that would showing moral leadership even though, as we know, the case against Greenwood has neither been proven or disproven - yet. He is a free man etc and I think contractually the best United could hope for is to pay his contract off. There is no statute of limitations on rape cases though. And whilst they’ve dropped it now, at a point in time they believed they had crossed the evidence threshold sufficiently to formally charge attempted rape. So the club may certainly view even if he’s not brought the club into disrepute etc he is simply too high risk now to continue with.

As for that moral leadership and kicking him out? - not shown that before have we so why do people think we’d do so now?

I think quite unexpectedly United now have a £50m+ asset back on their books. Moreover from a playing perspective we have a talented striker potentially back at a time when the team is crying out for a talented striker. I suspect rightly or wrongly he will play for United again.

Whatever the club decides I will abide by though.

14.) 06 Feb 2023 13:45:21
Spot on that Halesini; somethings like football are just more important than genocide.

15.) 06 Feb 2023 15:03:13
Mancman ??.

16.) 06 Feb 2023 15:41:31
MancMan the door is open my friend if you don’t like whoever the new owners are. Just let me know where your season ticket is though before you go as I could do with a third ;)

17.) 07 Feb 2023 08:43:46
By all means Halesini. You can be the Viscount Rothermere of Old Trafford.




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17 Feb 2023 19:12:44
Agree dodgy fingers crossed we get the type of player the manger wants.




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17 Feb 2023 07:46:23
I hope he comes outstanding player.
Rice not in the and league at all imo. They could not be more different in their attributes.
The manager wants fdj for a reason so not sure why anybody would prefer rice in less you want the manager to change the style he wants to play.




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15 Jan 2023 00:04:27
The rumour mill will be going into overdrive.
All well become apparent in good time we just have to avoid speculating and the speculation.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing at times.




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14 Jan 2023 10:38:14
Shawthing you have been conjecturing on this topic since its been announced with similar posts a couple of times a week?.




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12 Jan 2023 18:17:28
I said the exact same thing im7
I do think Potter is a very good coach though unlike ogs.
I think it was a huge leap from Brighton to Chelsea.
I don't buy into this chose squad is poor.
Couple of cup finals I think lady season 3rd in league I think won cl season before with the bones of it.
Given time he may well turn it around but if he loses a couple more they may well lose their bottle and sack him before the cl kicks in. I think top4 is beyond them so I hope they hold their nerve and trust in the man they selected only a couple of months ago.
I'd like to see him do well.
English managers are not successful I can't put my finger on exactly why that is.
Ability to be able to communicate with and inspire players from all cultures and countries seems to me to be the problem as the demise of English born managers came with at the same time as a major influx of non English players.





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07 Mar 2023 19:05:38
I think everyone is gutted we lost and the Manor if the defeat leahy no doubt about that.
But it's 1 game out of the last 20.
It was a tough watch for us and a very humbling experience for the players.
We know there are still a few flakes in the squad.
If it starts to become a trend again then we will have issues. I doubt it will under eth.
3 weeks ago Liverpool let in 5 in 40 mins you have seen a positive reaction from them since then.
Knee jerk reactions are for fools. Poor decision making is usually brought about when people react on emotions.
I've a high tolerance because we are so far ahead of expecting this season.
There are a few who can't wait to jump on it both from our own fans and opposition fans and press. That's just the way it is.
The big picture is we are 3rd 7 points ahead of Liverpool and in a great position to achieve our league targets.
We have some poor options in some positions so all things considered

The performance was a shock but the loss not a big shock.
I think we will go on to finish top 4 with the potential to have another 2 good cup runs and a trophy in the bag.
That's where the players focus will be and that's where my focus and attention is. We can't change what happened on Sunday but we can all choose to wallow in it or stop crying and look forward.
I've seen fergie teams hit for 5 by Newcastle 6 by Southampton 6 by City before they had money.
The fact it was Liverpool didn't hurt me anything like as much as the flashbacks I got of oleball on Sunday.
Still on the right path imo and we need to suck this one up and see who has had the most successful season at the end.




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07 Mar 2023 16:59:37
Watch this space on Bruno this summer. That's all I'll say.




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07 Mar 2023 15:32:19
Why would eth change it Tim?
How many games in the last 20 have we lost with Bruno as captain?




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07 Mar 2023 15:30:52
Eth comments were clear the stats are clear. We have scored more per game when he has played than when he has not.
Eth has said he is making a valuable contribution.
I'm not a big fan but the manager is and we have done very well with him in the team up until Sunday. We score more goals as a team when he plays. That's a fact but you want to ignore that. Thankfully we have a professional in charge.
We could not have bought anybody else at the time there was no money available.




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07 Mar 2023 15:27:04
Behead him the dirty rotter. Really you must have little to moan about.