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07 Jul 2023 19:33:09
Romano reporting that Onana deal pretty much done and that it will be completed by end of next week. United expect him to be on the US tour.
Excited for a new goalkeeping era, I thought DDG would end up signing a new deal to be perfectly honest. Mixed emotions on that one, David will go down as a United legend. One of my favourite players of all time. But football moves on and Onana will completely revolutionise our counter attacking style.
1.) 08 Jul 2023 07:42:04
One of your favourite players of all time. Jeez.
Just don’t get this DDG love in. Above average goalkeeper who won many personal awards because he was in a below average United side. Poor at crosses and commanding area. Always had a mistake in him. Last season helped knock us out of Europa and awful in Cup Final. Tried to move on numerous occasions. Payed way above what he was worth. Nowhere near the standard of Edwin (please get better soon) or Schmikes.
Regardless of how his departure has been handled (think about NHS staff and teachers for some perspective) it’s no worse than Keane or RVN who made far greater contributions to the club.
Personally swapping him for Onana will be best bit of business this summer for me.
2.) 08 Jul 2023 08:25:29
Just my opinion. Got a soft spot for keepers and I think in terms of shot stopping he’s up there with the best we’ve had. I think he was on a similar level to Peter. Not as commanding or as dominant, but athletically in terms of shot stopping he was.
Besides, he hasn’t left the club yet. He may sign a contract on reduced terms and fight for his place.
And bringing the NHS and teaching profession into your comment was a cheap shot. Don’t care what profession your in, whether it be a multi million pound footballer or an NHS janitor, everyone deserves to be treated with respect.
3.) 08 Jul 2023 08:41:37
fireman agree re nhs comment but let's be real- ddg was treat well 375000 a week well and respect is a two way thing. Did he treat mufc with respect contractually? remember the madrid fiasco? He played his part but was very well, some would say too well, rewarded for it- its time to change as the game has but ddg hasn't and unfortunately that has put a stain on an otherwise very decent career.
4.) 08 Jul 2023 09:53:28
Unfortunately the game and style of play the top teams want to play has passed DDG by with ball playing being such a key part. At 32 I am not sure he will be able to adapt this game enough to be what we need, I am convinced he would improve but when the pressure comes he will revert to what he is comfortable with.
I have loved having DDG down the years but been fully aware of his failings which also include dominance in the box and crosses, but overall he has been a top goalkeeper.
For modern football he has suffered from a series of managers who have not wanted to play this way and defenders who also can't do it. If he chooses his next club wisely he will again be seen as a top goalkeeper, just not what we need for the next evolution of EtH team.
5.) 08 Jul 2023 11:04:29
Unless Onana learns to catch the ball and also how not to parry the ball back into dangerous areas we might not be much better off- except he can kick the ball accurarately which is what the hipster fans tell us is now essential although Banks, Yashin, Shilton, Bonetti, clemmence, VDS seemed to do ok by throwing the ball out once they had done the hard part which was generally thought to be the saving of shots and denying the opposition goalscoring opportunities.
6.) 08 Jul 2023 14:58:49
Those goalkeepers also could pick up back passes and mostly played with defenders who used their heads more than their feet. Football has evolved and players have too, Allison is probably the most important signing liverpool have made in a decade and revolutionised how they play as he can sweep, do 1 on 1 and is strong with his feet.
7.) 08 Jul 2023 17:21:22
But the one thing that never changes and never can change is that first and foremost a keeper has to be good with their hands and good at reducing chances from the opposition . Its the same thinking that has people excited about attacking fullbacks, yes its good but in another generation we will see less and less good defenders, its already happening now.
8.) 09 Jul 2023 07:02:01
If you don't change with the times you get left behind, we've seen that to a certain extent with Jose. Madrid tried to match peps City like we did a couple of times against that 09-13 Barcelona squad and got played off the park. Meanwhile inter should have beaten them because they managed to hold them off by playing deep and onanas calmness on the ball helped that. Even players like haaland change things, teams had to change the way they set up because he was so powerful and direct. In 50 years time maybe the 442 will be back revolutionary and a cryogenically frozen big sam will awaken and dominate world football.
18 Jun 2023 16:57:50
Just read that Ruben Neves is the latest player to be courted by Saudi. I get the money aspect, but surely he’s got more to offer in Europe first. He’s 26 and in the last year of his contract…. I think he’s a cracking player, would much rather have him than MM. Was really impressed when I saw him at Old Trafford, had a real calm presence about him.
Do any of the admins know if we still retain any interest in him?
{Ed002's Note - Manchester United has moved on.}
1.) 18 Jun 2023 18:19:56
I think he'd be okay as a Casemiro alternative at the base of midfield, albeit in a very different mould of a No.6.
But I'm not sure he's a great fit for EtH's No.8 where he wants a combination of energy and defensive work rate off the ball and creativity and ball carrying ability on it.
Neves doesn't have the mobility or pace to play that style of No.8.
Having him as a controlling 6, taking the ball off the defence, breaking the first line of pressure and dictating play is what he's best at. But without a defensively diligent and mobile no.8 alongside him he can be overan.
2.) 18 Jun 2023 18:41:30
Feels like we are seeing a new version of the Chinese league from a few years back, whether it survives longer only time will tell but could be likely as these big contracts seem to be centrally based with then allocated to the next team to spread the top players
I doubt this will be the last surprise signing.
3.) 18 Jun 2023 19:02:30
Just posted something similar fireman. can't believe that players in their prime are going to saudi for the money. It seems the game really is becoming just a money game these days. I get it at the end of a player's career. But it is not that long ago that Neves was rumored to be a Barcelona bound player.
4.) 18 Jun 2023 20:49:42
I think there's a little shift in Saudi this season. It's not just players at the ends of their careers going there for a final pay day, but increasingly younger players looking for a quick buck too who are maybe not so fussed about European honours. Maybe if it escalates further it will one day be the cream of the players being tempted.
5.) 18 Jun 2023 21:15:57
Not sure why nobody can believe this? They’re transient employees who have a shelf life on earnings. Why not go? Ronaldo was the big one they bagged and others will now follow.
Heck I’d go to Saudi for 2-3 years if it made me a millionaire a few times over and come home.
{Ed014's Note - you forgot you need to actually be able to play footy Eric! ?
6.) 19 Jun 2023 08:05:28
The fatal flaw in my plan Ed14.
{Ed014's Note - albeit a good one bar that minor hiccup ?
7.) 19 Jun 2023 11:27:13
I do play 5 aside to an appalling standard regularly I’ll have you know. Might qualify me for a 12 month deal with an option to extend.
8.) 20 Jun 2023 15:21:21
I played in the Saudi league in 90’s. There was brown envelopes in your shoes even back then. Playing in front of 1 man and his dog in huge stadiums on occasions.
Sad to see players at the top of their profession heading there now if I’m honest. It’s not like you’re not set up for life in any top league anyway.
But maybe becoming “super wealthy” not just footballer wealthy appeals to some. I still have my first pay check £29.50 a week YTS apprentice and was happy with that.
{Ed002's Note - This is all happening on the back of a successful World Cup in the Middle East and the need to seek alternate income to oil. Sport has become a major focus for investment - as will tourism.}
9.) 20 Jun 2023 20:10:00
It’s one thing big events like world cups etc going there. Dubai has had golf, tennis, cricket, Rigby 7’s, horse racing for years.
I can’t blame the Saudis for pushing the tourism angle and oil alternatives. I made a decent living there and enjoyed the place.
Even big world title boxing can produce great ticket sales. But it’s the top level players turning away from meaningful league titles, champions leagues etc just for money seems hard to grasp.
14 Jun 2023 19:04:05
Fabrizio stating that we’ve offered 40 million for MM which has been rejected straightaway. They want 70, but we are expected to go back in.
1.) 14 Jun 2023 20:47:13
What I don't understand and perhaps Ed002 can help if he isn't busy.
Why would United speak to Chelsea for two weeks, only to offer a below par offer
I mean, surely the talking is discussing price? So if that's the case, why offer an amount officially that will not be accepted?
{Ed002's Note - There would have been some discussion and now an opening offer.}
2.) 14 Jun 2023 21:05:12
This transfer seems a certain one and we'll end up paying about 60m. The big concern is the striker at this moment.
3.) 14 Jun 2023 21:30:02
Anywhere around £50m plus add ons and it’s a good deal all round.
4.) 14 Jun 2023 21:31:53
Many thanks Ed002 for the reply.
Can I ask if United have enquired about any other Chelsea players in recent discussions? Unofficially of course.
I know you are pretty close to Chelsea officials.
5.) 14 Jun 2023 21:33:04
Sydney
Negotiations work like that, both sides want differences amounts.
6.) 14 Jun 2023 21:54:33
Red Man, obviously, but why talk to Chelsea for 3 weeks, obviously discussing price, then to offer an amount below the acceptable price.
What was the point of the 3 week discussions leading up to a bid? Seems rather pointless? What did they talk about before?
7.) 14 Jun 2023 22:07:44
They probably couldn’t agree, Chelsea want far too much and we don’t want to fund their rebuild. Chelsea say we want £70m and we are not going to want to pay that, hoping to meet in the middle.
8.) 14 Jun 2023 22:43:51
But there were discussions, Chelsea would say what they want, we say what we want to pay. In the 3 weeks that's when discussion on price is happening. Unofficially we are offering a price, they are declining etc. Negotiating if you will, so Why then would we publicly offer an amount that they won't accept? Seems amateurish to me that's all, or these bids are for the show. Chelsea want to look like they are playing hardball for their fans? Idk. One thing I will say is it does look nailed on now.
We still need a GK, CB, CM and prolific striker. And if outgoings allow, a good attacking RB.
9.) 14 Jun 2023 23:39:16
There are many different styles/ approaches to negotiating. it is rare in the commercial world for a multi million pound deal to be instantly agreed. Let's just wait and see what transpires.
10.) 15 Jun 2023 08:24:47
Hopefully £50m is out cut-off point and we'll get him for something towards that.
If Newcastle get Barella for £50m and Liverpool get MacAllister for £35m then to spend towards £70m for Mount immediately makes him the latest player we've massively overpaid for in recent years.
11.) 15 Jun 2023 08:48:57
We're always told that 'x team has been working hard on this deal for weeks'.
I'm pretty naive to what goes on in the background with a transfer.
Other than trying to deduce what fee is going to be demanded and making an offer with a quick email lol, what does 'working hard' on a deal actually mean?
I can appreciate there's a lot of cat and mouse going on - the selling club will pretend they're not interested for weeks, the buying club will avoid showing their hand and making an actual offer for as long as they can. but what's the hard work?
12.) 15 Jun 2023 09:28:40
It will happen.
Mount want's the move, Chelsea either sell this summer or loose him for nothing nest summer.
13.) 15 Jun 2023 09:29:50
I think people hear that talks have been held for weeks and assume that the club's and agents have been hauled up in some office somewhere for 6 hours a day every day.
Agents tend to represent dozens of clients and will be working on many deals for many clients every day.
While clubs also have a handful of people who can deal with these negotiations and they are needed to work on every transfer and new contract at the club. So will also have loads of jobs to do each day.
It could easily take a day or two of wrangling just to find a time when all parties can sit down and talk.
Weeks of discussions could put literally be a few hours over several weeks.
14.) 15 Jun 2023 12:38:24
It's a bit like Bargain Hunt where David Dickinson goes in, sees an antique he likes and says, what's the best you can do on that.
The dealer ums and ahs, Dickinson looks pensive, the dealer comes back with a price, Dickinson points out a few issues, they meet half way and shake hands, Dickinson gets out the readies.
United should hire DD, he can spot a bargain.
15.) 15 Jun 2023 19:10:25
Woodward already tried the overpriced antiques market recruitment strat, he just forgot about the good price part.
16 Aug 2022 20:22:34
According to Romano, the Rabiot deal is OFF due to his wage demands…….
Another bullet dodged.
1.) 16 Aug 2022 20:38:54
For good.
2.) 16 Aug 2022 20:45:00
The club is dodging so many bullets that they’ll end the transfer window with McFred. Not that I think Rabiot was the solution, but the club is clearly struggling to find players willing to join and scrambling around in the last two weeks of the transfer window.
3.) 16 Aug 2022 20:59:49
He was never a player I wanted, so in a way I'm glad he hasn't signed.
However, what I'm really happy about is the club having enough sense not to fold and give him a huge contract.
With all of the bad press around the club they could have easily given in, and paid him what his mummy asked for just to get a signing done and try and create some positivity.
The fact that they seemingly have made a conscious, sensible decision NOT to just throw money at the problem like throwing sh1t on the wall and hoping some sticks, is actually a positive step forward in my opinion.
4.) 16 Aug 2022 21:32:55
At this stage United efforts to get a midfielder look desperate and everyone will up their fee. Rabiot was only a good deal at the right price.
Caicedo seems to be next on the United transfer merry go round. Expect a few weeks of lowball bids followed by a desperate lunge at the end of the transfer window for anyone who has ever played in midfield.
5.) 16 Aug 2022 21:37:31
Good news unless the club becomes even more desperate as the month ends and they throw the Rabiot money at someone even less desirable like Fellaini in 2013.
6.) 16 Aug 2022 21:52:30
As other posters have said, proud of the club for not giving in to a parasite like Rabiot and his lunatic mothers demands. He probably banged a bit on his wage demand knowing full well we are in s*** state.
7.) 16 Aug 2022 22:03:25
Wonder where this leaves Garner? I thought they wanted to sell him to help with the Rabiot fee?
8.) 16 Aug 2022 22:18:00
You’ve got to start ask questions of John Murtough. How is he selling the project to potential players? l dudes been to Spain and Turin to finalise deals and he’s returned empty handed.
9.) 16 Aug 2022 22:32:20
Simply put, murtough is utterly useless at his job. After this shambles of a transfer window and the embarrassment he has caused the club, he really should be sacked on 1st September. But in truth all should be kicked out the club.
10.) 16 Aug 2022 22:39:01
Glad we did not give in and stood our ground. maybe finally seeing the light.
11.) 17 Aug 2022 00:07:51
It's all good until you are all crying at the end of the transfer window that we have to rely on those two useless idiots in midfield.
12.) 17 Aug 2022 01:30:52
Very nice RW, I imagine those two useless idiots are 5 times the humans you appear to be with comments like that.
13.) 17 Aug 2022 02:16:33
Give it a rest dodgy, they are both utterly useless. Absolute liabilities on and off the ball. couldn't give a toss if they have had the odd good game, they are not good enough for a top 6 team nevermind to challenge for the title.
Too much sentiment'hes one of our own' 'but he puts in the effort and graft'. Yeah okay but they're still rubbish players.
14.) 17 Aug 2022 06:32:42
I’m sorry but although most of us seem these players rubbish and not the standard we need or are used to, their certainly not rubbish players!
They are all far better than what their showing but their so bereft of confidence it’s staggering! Hence why our fan base need to be better, this group of players ( although I like others dislike a lot of them ) need us lot more than ever on their side!
15.) 17 Aug 2022 07:06:02
Mctominay and fred aren't rubbish? I'll put down the whiskey and switch to smoking whatever your on Chris.
16.) 17 Aug 2022 08:07:12
To be fair to the likes of Scott, Fred they are supposed to be decent lads who want to play for Manchester United. But the fact of the matter is they aren’t good enough. They don’t have the class or technical ability to succeed here.
17.) 17 Aug 2022 08:08:00
So much for only signing first or at a push second targets. We literally can't even get 4-5th choice.
18.) 17 Aug 2022 09:12:31
Someone mentioned Fellaini above. Christ, I think I’d take someone similar at this point in time. At least he’d show some battling qualities and actually provide a presence in the side.
19.) 17 Aug 2022 10:25:17
If they keep dodging bullets is it any wonder Utd fire only blanks.
07 Aug 2022 12:03:37
Any truth in the rumour we’ve bid somewhere in the region of €8/ 9 million for Marko Arnautovic?
Struggling with this one of true, both in terms of quality and attitude. Again at the price would reinforce my theory we aren’t exactly flush.
{Ed002's Note - I would need to check.}
1.) 07 Aug 2022 12:15:36
Seem to remember him being a prima dona at West Ham and Hammers fans hated him.
2.) 07 Aug 2022 12:24:01
He has just one goal less than Osimhem.
3.) 07 Aug 2022 12:58:09
Old, difficult, banned for racism.
No thanks.
4.) 07 Aug 2022 16:54:50
Ok. If all are crying NO. It means United would certainly after it. and make a face like they have got a world beater.
5.) 07 Aug 2022 21:35:55
Reports that a bid has been rejected for him. Hope that ends our interest because he is an awful signing and reinforces the view that we are going in circles.
Stick one of the academy players on the bench rather than a hasbeen with questionable views.
6.) 07 Aug 2022 22:38:36
The more I think about it the worse it gets.
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04 Jan 2024 18:07:33
What’s the likelihood of Martial getting a new contract? Are we seriously considering extending him!?!?
1.) 04 Jan 2024 18:17:57
If we extend him and varane then this clubs a joke. Would show we are just repeating previous mistakes.
2.) 04 Jan 2024 18:19:24
Partial to another 3-4 years of Martial?
3.) 04 Jan 2024 18:24:48
If this is what “football people” at the club do then we are in for another load of amateurs
Mediocre players getting new deals is just what we need.
4.) 04 Jan 2024 18:25:54
Really stupid if we do. Time to get rid. Hasn't worked out.
5.) 04 Jan 2024 18:53:36
There is zero chance of the club renewing Martial's contract. If they do I will stop supporting them.
6.) 04 Jan 2024 19:05:46
This is the problem, SJR isn't through the door yet, the club haven't appointed a new CEO or made any changes to the structure of the club.
All of this will take months, it probably won't all be in place by the summer and it probably won't be until the summer of 2025 before we really start to see any fruits from it.
The people who have intimated the discussions with Varane and Martial as well as choosing to activate the one year options for AWB, Lindelof and Hannibal are the same people we have had running the club and making those deals for the best part of the last 10 years.
Nothing has changed yet, and it will be months before anything really does start to change, probably 6-10 months before all the changes are in place and 18 months to two years before we really start to see the full benefit of those changes. With probably another year or two before we have a team truly ready to challenge for major honours.
Fans hoping for a quick fix and a title challenge next season are in for a harsh shock.
It's taken the INEOS ownership of Nice 3 years to get them to being title challengers. That's in a one team league with a team that was already set up and being ran in a much better way that we have been.
Given the level of competition in the EPL, as well as the sheer amount of work that is needed to turn around our club then 3 years is probably the minimum amount of time we can expect it to take to make us title challengers again.
Don't expect miracles or anything to change over night, it won't.
7.) 04 Jan 2024 19:11:59
These are not "new deals" they have triggered the 1 year extention option on hannibel lindelof and awb. None of whom are the biggest earners at the club.
You need to understand the reasons why they have done this from a financial standpoint.
Martial and varane have not yet had their option extended and while eth said the club are talking to them I doubt that very much as they don't need to they didn't talk to the other 3 they informed them by letter that they had taken up the option.
They may well trigger those options and either sell them or loan them out (getting a loan fee) next season if the new coach doesn't want them.
No new deals just good forward planning leaving as many options open as possible and not allowing those 5 to sign pre contracts elsewhere for next season while they are still at the club.
8.) 04 Jan 2024 20:23:17
Wtf does this bone idle prick have on the top brass at United?
I'm sick to the back teeth of seeing that smug grin on the face of one of the laziest footballers I've ever seen.
F*** off Anthony, quit insulting every single one of us.
9.) 04 Jan 2024 20:23:56
I would not panic yet, talking to Martial does not mean it’s to offer a new contract extension. If we extend Martial on the same salary we wouldn’t be able to get rid. Martial can sign a pre contract elsewhere, whenever he wants.
What I would say is that if it turns out Ratcliffe has asked ETH advice on Martial and the manager wants to extend his contract, then I move to ETH out instantly.
10.) 04 Jan 2024 20:48:32
Sky have deleted their embarrassing post, ETH said discussions had taken place and didn’t say either way whether it was for an extension or not and they jumped on the story and said we are extending to get clicks. Other people believed it like you have.
11.) 04 Jan 2024 20:58:32
Exactly GtoS, like I said the discussion could be we are not renewing but will help you in your search for another club, thank you for your service.
12.) 05 Jan 2024 03:25:24
lol you guys need to relax and don't get so bent out of shape and read things into this stuff. its standard stuff. both are going to be here till end of season and in Varrane's case i am sure he will be professional and do his best. He is never going to say we want them gone is he.
13.) 05 Jan 2024 08:44:59
I wouldn't read too much into it, I can definitely see Martial and/ or Varane moving on this window for different reasons, Varane is one of the few viable commodities we have that other clubs may want so if one of the long-term targets is available this month then I can see it. Same with Martial, but he's obviously not a player we want to keep so if he can be replaced for the remainder of the season (even by a non-target on loan) I reckon that could happen too.
14.) 05 Jan 2024 10:50:23
I would rather United join the European Super League then extend Martial's contract. I think the ''discussion'' was more about him leaving and them not triggering or extending it.
15.) 05 Jan 2024 16:28:20
He’s not signing a new contract, he’s available January and will for free in the summer if he can’t find a club in jan. Not a chance they’ll give him a renewed contract.
16.) 05 Jan 2024 22:31:24
United will extend his contract by a year to sell him to Saudi. Then they'll pull their interest and we will have to endure another 18 months of Martial.
11 Dec 2023 08:57:05
Scott McTominay
He’s copped a lot of stick over the years, but nobody can argue that he doesn’t know where the goal is. It’s obvious that his strongest position is further forward.
With that in mind, and I know it would take a manager with balls of steel………. but would there be any value in trying to convert him into a striker and playing him up top? I know it’s a pretty out there statement, but at the moment we have Hoijlund who is far far from the finished article. And then we have Martial who is as about effective as a chocolate teapot (plus he’s due an injury soon)
Would anyone go for this?
1.) 11 Dec 2023 09:28:15
I read somewhere a while ago that he started out as a striker before being moved to MF. So, who knows? I'm certain that unlike Martial he will at least get in the box.
2.) 11 Dec 2023 09:29:58
Any competently run club sells him in January to make the most of this patch of goalscoring form he's been on and then actually buys a competent central midfielder that can control the ball.
Same with Harry Maguire as well, we might as well cash in when their form and media reputation is at its highest.
3.) 11 Dec 2023 09:32:28
I would argue that whilst Hoijlund is not necessarily the finished article it is harsh to say he is far far from it.
We have created nothing for him to put away. No decent crosses of the ball, no final third intensity and no desire.
Weghorst was lambasted on the forum and in the most part with justification but there is a trend of not supplying these players and then caning them for not being effective.
Until we are regularly creating chances for these guys its hard to fairly judge them.
4.) 11 Dec 2023 09:33:57
Agree with Maguire 100%. Scott I’d keep tbh.
5.) 11 Dec 2023 09:35:29
Fizz.
That’s basically where I’m coming from. If Scott doesn’t go in January I’d rather play him as a striker than Martial every day of the week.
6.) 11 Dec 2023 10:14:26
You're spot on Fizz.
Always was a striker from 8 or 9 ish, but he was switched to MF as he had more of a physical presence for his age group.
It's well worth a try to play him further up,9 goals in 41
appearances for Scotland so far.
Anything is preferable to seeing The Incredible Sulk warming up to try and beat his current club record of covering 600 yards in 90 minutes.
He could get a run out against a lesser team in the Carabao Cup.
Oh. er,
maybe next season then.
7.) 11 Dec 2023 11:36:10
If we want to get back to the top we need to shift these mediocre players
They’ve never been good enough and never will be
How have players like Martial and Lindelof been at the club for so long on stupid wages.
8.) 11 Dec 2023 11:56:47
Said the very same in this forum about 12-18 months ago and was dismissed.
I lamppost offers more upfront than Martial.
9.) 11 Dec 2023 11:58:44
The question is why the club allowed us to be in a position where Martial was the only option to cover a 20year old inexperienced Dane? Who thought that was acceptable? Saw someone say will Martial get in the box, he never moves out of it.
We have a 20year old called Joe Hugill who I think was given a new contract, why hasn’t he been given a chance in front of Martial. Is he injured? On loan? If we don’t know if he is good enough at 20 why is he there?
The manager has questions to answer over why we have such striker issues given it was flaming obvious about this. Why does he even have Martial in the squad? Is it true that Joel Glazer won’t let him go? Continuing to play Martial is likely divisive in the squad, they all know he does absolutely nothing.
Yes I would have Mct up front before Martial, but where are the youth strikers?
10.) 11 Dec 2023 11:27:55
I think we are all out on Martial, I hoped that he could be a competent number 2 there is definitely a player in there just not seen it either for injuries or attitude. I would consider McTominy as a number 2 striker if we can't bring anyone else in, however there is a difference between leading the line, holding the defenders etc and being able to pop up from AM into the spaces that the striker has created for you by pulling the defenders away. But, would still consider it as an option.
McTominy for me just can't be in the same team as Fernandes as it offers no support for the HM. Foe me we need to play Mainoo and Amrabat at the minute, or Casimero with one of them when he is back. We need to stick with 2 HM's with one of them pushing up to bridge the gap between the attack. With McTominy the gap is huge and leaves the HM open on there own.
For balance we need to sacrafice his goals as without them I see him offering nothing and get balance back in the squad.
11.) 11 Dec 2023 12:54:06
McT has denied ever playing CF in younger years. Recent interview.
12.) 11 Dec 2023 13:21:06
Think he played up front once in a game because we were short and now everyone thinks he’s a striker. He is scoring goals and that’s masking how poor he is in midfield, for some reason our manager plays him 90 minutes every game now and leaves Mainoo on the bench, baffling.
13.) 11 Dec 2023 13:29:07
McTominay is our top scorer because the rest of our forwards are having a torrid time in front of goal.
Why do we have to play a midfielder up front? What ever happened to being a goal scoring midfielder?
Most decent teams have midfielders that chip in with a few goals, and we want to make ours our striker?
Very short term mentality that allows average footballers an excuse to stick around.
McTominay has stepped up in recent games but don't view his United career through a keyhole and view it as a whole. He should be one of the players that's on his way out as he's not good enough.
14.) 11 Dec 2023 14:38:15
McTominay is probably one of the biggest problems with the team at the minute, he causes the lack of control he doesn't run back into position he means the gap between defence and attack is massive giving the opposition bags of room to run into on the counter he constantly leaves his midfield partner isolated meaning they have a choice of marking their man or engaging the person on the ball, either that or bruno has tracked back after busting a gut to get forward from deep where he was covering mctominay in the build up.
the other problem if he offers 0 in the attacking build up he's not especially creative he doesn't offer himself up to play the ball off and he isn't especially good in the press.
yes he's been good at taking his chances but when he doesn't score he's as bad as having martial on the pitch, he was completely missing at Bournemouth and he dangled a pathetic leg on the first goal rather than making an actual effort on the ball as soon as he did that they were on us.
The other main problem seems to be that the manager just isn't seeing this mctominay is playing 90mins of the majority of the games he should be at best someone you put on late on to try and grab a goal not the first choice.
honestly we will continue to give up these opportunities on the counter whilst he is in there based on the fact he was in the press conference today for the bayern game he's going to start, let's hope he scores or we might struggle.
15.) 11 Dec 2023 15:21:50
Sell him! He’ll revert to type! Or he did Saturday
Sell him while he is receiving praise because he’ll always let us down!
16.) 11 Dec 2023 17:04:35
This is not fifa boys.
He got none of those goals playing as a cf.
He has little or none of the attributes needed to play cf from anything I've seen in his career.
In fact it's not so long ago he was being talked about as a cb.
If be happy to have him as a squad player coming on the odd time but he would have to be 5th choice i'm not sure he'd be happy with that.
17.) 11 Dec 2023 17:43:18
Great post DSG couldn’t agree more.
18.) 11 Dec 2023 17:58:32
Dsg post is the money. Needs to go, not good enough for the reserves never mind the squad. We need a squad of starters nowadays.
19.) 11 Dec 2023 18:27:01
Mctominay is at best a substitute you bring on as a hail mary once you are down and throw the kitchen sink.
20.) 11 Dec 2023 18:58:00
McTominaybis a yellow card waiting happen. His lack of discipline defensively is worrying. It wasn't long ago where he failed to teach back against Bayern.
Whilst he has scored a few important goals this season, he isn't and will not be a top player for Utd.
21.) 12 Dec 2023 10:20:36
Get rid. not good enough and never has been.
20 Oct 2023 08:26:33
I’m a bit of a stick in the mud with certain things, and I should be more forward thinking. But I’m struggling to see what a cycling guru like Dave Brailsford is going to bring to the party. Perhaps all the players might start using ‘inhalers’……….
1.) 20 Oct 2023 09:45:15
They might get some players match fit
at least on spin bikes. The side looks a yard off the pace at least so far.
2.) 20 Oct 2023 10:47:48
I've been reading up a bit on him, as didn't have a scoobies. The mastermind behind Team Sky (as it was), and the whole marginal gains philosophy. Sporting success has been light for a few years for Ineos, maybe Utd can be the catalyst?
Saying that there seems to be concerns about him in particular.
3.) 20 Oct 2023 11:15:29
Of all the concerns I have regarding the Ineos, SDB being in charge of the Ineos sporting portfolio and overseeing the changes we need on behalf of the owners would be the least of my concerns. The guy is a very successful sports administrator, has football guys under him at Ineos and is better placed to put in the right people than the owners and on behalf of the owner. If he can manage to get one appointment right, someone with competence and vision to run the football side of things, he will go a long way to curing our ills.
Sadly whilst he may find a lot of asthma sufferers in the ranks, I doubt there is a treatable medical condition that will allow some of our clowns to actually read the game and be where they need to be.
4.) 20 Oct 2023 11:49:43
I’ve sussed it we don’t need anyone except a top optician because they all seem to be colour blind as they can’t pick out a red shirt.
5.) 20 Oct 2023 15:26:12
Brailsford will bring in some top quality doctors ? look at the miracles worked with Wiggins and Froome ?.
6.) 20 Oct 2023 18:15:07
No coincidence that Ineos haven’t won a bean since he got rumbled….
7.) 20 Oct 2023 19:01:38
The standard of PED testing in football is so poor it should not be an issue.
8.) 20 Oct 2023 21:26:18
Depends on what level he'll be working and the role he'll have. As sporting strategist I'm sure he'll bring something. As a DoF he wouldn't have the connections and understanding of the specifics of the sport to really thrive in that role. Although rumours that Paul Mitchell is to join the club are strong. Mostly centred around the fact that he has bought aa new house in the north west and has turned down other job offers apparently, almost like he is expecting to get a job closer to home some time soon. Who knows. Let's see how all of this shakes out.
9.) 20 Oct 2023 23:06:00
My main concern is that Joel Glazer. wants to be part of the sporting committee. After all, he apparently referred to Martial as the French "Pele".
10.) 21 Oct 2023 09:33:41
MH- I’m not concerned by that.
The glazers are still majority shareholders so still have a duty of care imposed on them. They can’t be completley absent.
Ratcliffe will have it set up that he has the final say imo.
11.) 21 Oct 2023 11:12:04
Caolan_2
That's a good point that you've made. I never thought of it like that.
04 Oct 2023 19:32:19
So at the minute, Onana is looking like an African Taibi……. but for Inter he’s been a superb goalkeeper and Eric believes in him. No keeper is going to come to our rescue and we can all get bleary eyed about DDG and Schmeich’s, but Andre is our number 1 and we need to get behind him. He isn’t going to improve and settle with us if he’s getting pelters every week.
1.) 04 Oct 2023 20:13:52
Onana almost single handedly lost us the game against Bayern and Gala.
Pressure is getting the better of him.
We need to get behind him as we did with DDG during his calamitous start.
2.) 04 Oct 2023 20:27:08
Singlehandedly, oh come on lads. He's been here 5 minutes. Bet you were full of praise for DDG when he had his first season.
Onana is a fine keeper and will be okay.
3.) 04 Oct 2023 20:56:03
My problems with him are that the errors are all widely different.
He's fumbled crosses, he's let in ridiculously easy saves, he's misplaced passes.
The 3rd goal yesterday was horrendous though. He fell to the ground and made the strikers mind up, it was absolutely woeful and at a time when the whole team is struggling, you really can't be having a keeper making the amount of errors he's making.
4.) 04 Oct 2023 21:01:47
Angel couldn’t agree more.
5.) 04 Oct 2023 21:31:05
Two really bad errors in champions league games is pretty inexcusable in my opinion.
I think he's been fine in the league tbh, don't think any goals he's conceded have been his fault.
Playing behind 57 different defensive combinations hasn't helped matters either, the whole team is defending abysmally, particularly Casemiro who seems to want to play up front half the time likes he's playing a kids match.
6.) 04 Oct 2023 21:43:39
If it was me, Onana is getting dropped.
But ETH won't do that since he's ex-Ajax.
When did we settle for mediocrity?
If he's having a difficult time he needs to sit on the bench and reflect and fix his basic issues.
The keeper behind him in heaton and bayindir deserve a chance. We are not Onana FC.
7.) 04 Oct 2023 22:00:42
It's a tough one with goalies. Fergie dropped Leighton, and he also dropped Dave for a while, just to take him out of the spotlight more than anything. People forget how Dave was hammered at the start. But he had strong enough character to see it as a challenge. Jim didn't unfortunately.
How would Onana react? It's a fine line to walk with goalies, probably more than any other position.
Personally, I've noticed a big improvement in playing out from the back. Most teams don't even bother pressing him the way they did with Dave, because they know 9 times out of 10, he'll be grand.
We knew there would be clangers playing that way, but that's the way we all wanted to play.
Give him time.
8.) 04 Oct 2023 22:03:18
Backpass we settled for mediocrity the day Fergie and Gill left the club.
9.) 04 Oct 2023 22:21:39
Blackpool Red
It started when the Glazers arrived, not the day SAF and Gill left. No value in the market and SAF bringing back the retired Scholes, clinging on to the CO92 and wringing everything from players he bought pre Glazer.
10.) 05 Oct 2023 00:30:04
Fergie was partly to blame for the Glazers coming in and would have gotten (And still is) getting very rich from the Glazers for his silence.
11.) 05 Oct 2023 06:13:05
Drop onana? Come on people get a grip, he’s been here two minutes! Huge pressures being United number 1 and dropping him creates even more! He’ll be fine! Replace him with Heaton or the kid? Come on, we’re desperate to get some stability in the 11 and people want to drop our gk!
12.) 05 Oct 2023 10:00:29
So drop the guy who got to the semis and final of cl and replace him with a guy yet to play a game in a must win game.
What happens if the new guy makes a mistake if you guys get your wish against Brentford who will bombard us with crosses.
Has anyone even seen him play to be asking for Onana to be dropped or is it typical we now have a new guy we want to hate and take out their frustration. The press/ pundits do plenty of that no need to join in.
Onana with a decent back 4 who do not hide from receiving the ball and can defend will be a really good goalkeeper.
13.) 05 Oct 2023 12:22:27
Unfortunately, like I posted during our pre-season tour when he was so far forward he got lobbed, we're just going to have to accept that with a ball-playing goalkeeper (who also likes to go a little rogue), come huge risks. He's been directly responsible for a handful of goals against us. But I don't want to bash the guy, as having this type of keeper helps our play too. It's like having an extra outfield player, like Pep said. I think the pace of the Prem is a helluva lot quicker than the Dutch and Italian leagues so he's not getting as much time to think about his passes and a few have gone amiss. Nothing any of our mids don't do but of course GK errors tend to lead to a chance.
14.) 06 Oct 2023 10:47:06
Ahmed what difference does it make he got to a champs league final, this is different league different season, different team, different manager, got zero relevance whatsoever, I seen many players over the years who won many things does not mean to say they are great players or suit a certain league or style, what’s been good from Onana so far, people say his kicking well I not even seen so much of that, Emerson kicking goes directly in a controllable fashion to one of his team mates, Onana more often then now is a punt upfield, if that’s what I ]t takes to make a good goalkeeper put Bruno in goal.
29 Jul 2023 19:49:33
Welcome to Old Trafford Rasmus. Deal done.
16 Sep 2024 13:23:51
Fair one Shappy, I actually read that post ??.
04 Sep 2024 21:13:44
A golden window.
20 Aug 2024 18:38:28
I’m not sure how we’ve managed to sell Pellistri for 6 million Euro’s, a player who’s played in a World Cup, whilst the scousers have managed to offload Lee Clark’s lad for 10……. ?♂️.
20 Aug 2024 09:24:12
If we get Ugarte on an initial loan and also get to keep Scott, the club have done some shrewd business there.
14 Aug 2024 13:37:05
Maguire will see his contract out. I think he’s that stubborn and that deluded tbh.
28 Oct 2024 21:54:16
You mention our ‘behaviour’ as fans,
And how ‘toxic’ it’s been Ahmad……. you must have been to a different Old Trafford then mate, because where I stand, ETH and the players have had nothing but support recently…….
04 Sep 2024 12:36:22
Salford…. I’d argue he was good enough. He was good enough to start in a World Cup final.
03 Sep 2024 23:12:55
Offer him 100k a week on a one year with the option to extend. Failing that he goes and joins Osimhen in Turkey with the rest of the contract brinksman.
02 Sep 2024 12:25:05
At this moment in time I’d say he was a no brainer.
02 Sep 2024 09:01:08
Not long probably……. ?.