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18 Oct 2024 10:38:41
Hi ed002
Hope all is well. Are united interested in Rios from Palmeras and do you see us making a move for another midfielder in the jan window,
{Ed002's Note - Richard Rios (CM/DM) Wolves, Liverpool, West Ham and Arsenal sent scouts to the Palmeiras game against Flamengo and all were apparently impressed by the youngster playing in CM. Manchester United and Leicester interest has likely gone. Real Sociedad considered him a Zubimendi replacement but stepped away because of the price. A wildcard would be Real Madrid, Milan, Barcelona, Chelsea/Strasbourg or possibly PSG. Interest of Getafe and Everton will go nowhere. €100M release clause and a long contract to fend off European clubs but financially they could be forced to accept less.
I expect a couple of departures from and an addition to midfield in January.}
1.) 18 Oct 2024 13:59:36
Hi Ed I hipe your alright.
Can you tell us the targets for january please?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM/DM) Barcelona will look for a new contract with reduced wages else he will be sold with possible interest remaining from Manchester United. PSG have spoken with his agent and additionally his agent has raised his availability with Chelsea whist discussing another player but they have no interest in him.}
2.) 18 Oct 2024 14:00:11
Also couls you tell us which players are likely to leave in January?
{Ed002's Note - Casemiro (DM) Manchester United would be willing to let him leave but will take a huge loss. Michael Emenalo spoke of him as one option for Saudi clubs but will be concerned about persistent injuries but MU will be hoping for a call or an offer from perhaps Turkey or Brazil.
Christian Eriksen (AM) The player has a contract until 2025 but will be allowed to leave in January. Interest of Real Betis in a loan was rejected as the club wanted a sale. Anderlecht or Ajax may take him else MLS or Middle East beckons.}
3.) 18 Oct 2024 16:18:52
Dr Jong will be awesome for us and will transform the midfield! Best news!
4.) 18 Oct 2024 19:37:55
De Jong is a great player, but I’d like to see us steer clear of Ten Haag’s targets from here on out. He’ll be gone by the start of next season (hopefully, a lot sooner), so it seems foolish to waste anymore money on players to fit whatever his system is.
5.) 18 Oct 2024 23:17:38
Redseven
So FDJ is a great player but because eth wants him you don't want him. okay then that makes a lot of sense.
6.) 19 Oct 2024 03:14:20
Ahmad. Yes. Not signing a player to play a certain “style” of football when we almost certainly won’t be playing that “style” of football in nine months makes a lot of sense.
I take it from your response that you’d rather we drop another 500m on Ten Haag targets in January just so the man can further prove how utterly out of his depth he is? I guess if he gets us relegated, we might actually finish higher than eighth next season.
{Ed004's Note - I think the main reason in getting the likes of Ashworth, Wilcox etc is that they should be shaping our squad for a certain style of play regardless of who the manager is. Last summer was not the correct time to judge their signings with Ashworth only joining 1 July etc but going forward I would hope our record in the market is a lot stronger.}
7.) 19 Oct 2024 09:05:40
Redseven
A midfielder who has an excellent first touch and turn who advances the ball, intelligent and good passer and a good engine on him can play for most good teams.
Don't muddy the waters. If he is healthy and if we genuinely want him and can be secured by people who are a lot more qualified than me and you, I am happy to go with it.
8.) 19 Oct 2024 20:36:41
Cas out and de Jong in would make be a very effective window.
9.) 20 Oct 2024 23:44:34
Given eriksens form, i'd hope he stays this year.
05 Aug 2024 20:23:59
Ornstein saying we are looking at other options to ugarte. 60 mill ask by psg.
1.) 05 Aug 2024 20:34:59
Amrabat it is.
2.) 05 Aug 2024 20:42:32
We let that deal run for a long time before backing out. We really, really need a new 6. I've not seen the article were there any suggestions of alternatives?
At this rate we'll have the same midfield as last season. Crazy!
3.) 05 Aug 2024 21:01:55
Or F De Jong?
4.) 05 Aug 2024 21:10:50
More convinced than ever it’s Amrabat coming.
5.) 05 Aug 2024 21:17:20
glad we are taking a position and not getting skinned. I think the french international guy from Monaco might be a target, we tried to get him on loan last summer. name escapes me but he has one year left and refusing to sign a new contract.
6.) 05 Aug 2024 21:18:19
The price PSG is asking is crazy.
I think they will lower their expectations, or they risk being stuck with him.
We do need new players, but we also need to show that we won't be robbed as we used to be. It will be a long process.
7.) 05 Aug 2024 21:40:17
Our midfield options are eriksen, Casemiro, mctominay, kobbie, Bruno and mount…. we are screwed. Awful other than kobbie and Bruno, mount no idea where he plays and the others are woeful. Teams running free at our back 4 again next season.
8.) 05 Aug 2024 22:05:32
Seen the Spanish guy Zubimendi mentioned as a possible alternative. But think his price is around the same as Ugarte.
9.) 05 Aug 2024 22:06:56
Andre from fluminense seemed likely to Fulham but seems like that may not happen, Richard Rios from palmeiras but we'd have to over pay a little on wages and fee to get work permit, if it was me I'd look at Zubimendi we need a passer through midfield to stop Bruno having to drop deep.
10.) 05 Aug 2024 22:52:50
Ahmad, you mean Youssouf Fofana, seemingly Monaco looking for approx 35m euros for him.
Have to say think that Zubimendi would be good shout, very good player and although similar price to Ugarte he offers more offensively, he's more of a Rodri type player.
Issue is whether he would want to leave Spain and come to us.
11.) 06 Aug 2024 01:12:15
I predict we will sign Ugarte for ten mill less than they want in the coming weeks. Walking away is just a tactic. I have nothing but hope to base this on but glad we are not just paying whatever clubs want anymore.
12.) 06 Aug 2024 08:40:48
RWWD its the correct position. We have had our pants pulled down, too many time.
Same goes for De Ligt.
13.) 06 Aug 2024 17:42:03
You could well be right RWWD, after everything that SJR has said about paying excessive fees, he has to follow this through in his first transfer window in charge.
14.) 07 Aug 2024 12:05:06
We are re-living the days of Fergie saying there is no value in the market.
11 Jul 2024 16:00:06
Romano says we have signed Zirksee. 5 years with option for additional year.
1.) 11 Jul 2024 17:44:55
And D VdB also leaving, so one dutch out one Dutch in.
MDL will prob be next.
2.) 11 Jul 2024 19:10:28
Nice to get our no1 target in that position. Getting him instead of Milan is a nice coup too.
14 Jun 2024 16:41:08
Ornstein reporting united have made an opening bid of 35 million for branthwaite. sanity rules i guess, starting to really like ineos.
1.) 14 Jun 2024 17:09:41
First offer always was going to be low
everton need the money by the end of the month
Will prob end at 40-45 plus 5-10 in addons
But young potential signings is what we should be doing build a young team.
2.) 14 Jun 2024 18:20:29
Glad we’re not going in with a ridiculous opening offer, but am half expecting one of the other big clubs to do so. Can’t say I’d mind too much if they did.
3.) 14 Jun 2024 18:23:12
And we have lift off! Nice. Expect a swift rejection but that’s part of the game.
4.) 15 Jun 2024 07:45:38
Rejected but frames where we think the valuation is for him and glad to see us have some discipline. Don't hear anyone else in for him given so many clubs are looking for cb's.
I expect us to get something done in the low 40's or move on to someone else if we are egtting stretched higher. I think ed002 mentioned our priority list of cb's a while ago and he was 4th or 5th choice on the list the rest were more expensive.
{Ed025's Note - it will take over £60m to get JB ahmad, which is dirt cheap considering you paid £80m for slab head and big prices for the other time wasters who are nowhere near as good as Jarrad mate..
5.) 15 Jun 2024 08:13:08
Yeah Ed but that’s because we overpaid for those player, glad we aren’t just paying up because Everton want and we are incompetent for once. We know Everton need to sell and while it’s probably lower than JB valuation it’s a good starting point and I’d say £50m plus add ons be about right for potential.
{Ed025's Note - i think its a bit of a low ball offer with an initial bid reportedly being £35m WRD, he has a 4 year deal with us and i think we should keep him rather than sell him for a pittance mate, but it seems like he wants to go so i suppose a deal will be struck somewhere but if it was up to me the bidding would start at £60m, he will turn out to be a stellar player and FEC i expect..
6.) 15 Jun 2024 08:28:37
Doubt it will be much below £70m.
{Ed025's Note - i agree spenno..
7.) 15 Jun 2024 08:19:00
Ed025. That we paid up for slab head doesn’t follow that we should do the same for other players now. The ethos of the club in that respect is hopefully changing dramatically and what we value a player at and pay will, again, hopefully, be way more realistic.
{Ed025's Note - the likes of Utd and other big clubs will always have to pay a premium Fizz, everyone puts at least 25% on their price when the big boys come a calling thats just the way it is mate..
8.) 15 Jun 2024 09:20:24
United are just chancing their luck off the back of Everton’s financial circumstance I guess. This summer will be about United working in the transfer market and trying to undo poor performance over the past how ever many windows. Everton know they can state £70M because previously United have paid those prices. £55/ £60M with add ons up to £70M would probably be fair in this market for a player who we could get 10 years out of.
9.) 15 Jun 2024 10:35:11
ED025, Everton need to sell, so unless they can sell other players instead of JB before 30th June, then I think Utd might actually get him for £50 million plus add ons.
{Ed025's Note - hopefully other bids will come in and drive the price up MH, but i suppose £50m + add on,s is in the ball park mate..
10.) 15 Jun 2024 11:11:33
I don't think this new management structure is into going in the area people are talking about or even value him at those numbers. look at Ashworth case.
If we go to 50 mill plus add ons that's 60 mill. No one else will come in for him at those numbers. Still say low 40's plus add ons then we walk away.
60 mill is leny yoro zip code. easy choice to make if we are spending that kind of money and if the player is on board to coming.
11.) 15 Jun 2024 15:10:54
ED025,
I agree, a deal like that would probably suit both parties aswell.
{Ed025's Note - he is certainly open to it MH, and i expect it will happen mate..
12.) 16 Jun 2024 11:05:25
There will be wiggle room on the price, it'll be more than United would ideally like to pay, but less than Everton want. That's the way negotiations work.
I expect we'll start to see prices come down a little over the next couple of seasons.
Lots of clubs have been hit by the pandemic and now have FFP/ PSR issues because of the loss of revenue during that time.
Simply put clubs just have less to spend.
Everton are in a pinch and need money before June 30th, yet very few teams can afford to spend before then due to their own PSR issues and balancing the books.
That means Everton either accept a lower offer than might otherwise be expected, or they don't make raise the money needed and probably end up with another points deduction.
United are in a similar boat, we can't afford to spend too much before June 30th. While we might be able to pay a bigger fee afterwards, that won't be of any use to Everton at that point.
If United are the only team coming in for any Everton players before June 30th then it really puts them up against the wall and United will probably get Branthwaite for a much lower fee because of that. The other thing to factor in is that all of the fee from Branthwaite will be considered profit. Onana is the other player often linked with being sold to raise funds. Yet because he was bought for a few that could reach 33m there will still be a certain amount of his fee to be amortised meaning 15-20m of what they sell him for won't count as profit and therefore doesn't help them with PSR. They'd need 50-60m up front for Onana to solve the PSR issue compared to 35-40m for Branthwaite. The reality is that there probably isn't anyone who'll be able or willing to pay the amount they would need for a player like Onana to satisfy the PSR requirements.
From what I gather Everton need between 35-40m in their account before June 30th.
That will be why United's reported opening offer is around that figure. Also United can't really afford to pay much more than that before the end of June either.
I'd expect there to be some compromise, where United pay 35-40m upfront (whatever Everton need for PSR), then there to be some add-ons payable at a later date depending on certain criteria being met. Probably with around half the add-ons being fairly easy to meet (number of games etc) and the other half being harder (linked to club success) .
I'd imagine the total package might be worth around 60m if all add-ons are met, with United realistically probably paying 50-55m when all is said and done.
It'll save Everton from further PSR sanctions, while the larger figure will be reported to help them save face. Yet it'll still be less than they want and most Everton fans will rightly feel a little bitter about it.
As a United fan I'm not going to lose any sleep over the club taking advantage of another clubs situation. After all many clubs have ripped us off when selling players to us and have taken advantage when buying players.
Just looking at Everton for example they charged us more for Rooney than the price they agreed with Newcastle, pushed us with Fellaini to get a premium deal, while they also got cut price deals for players like Saha, Howard, Phil Neville, Gibson, Cleverley and most recently James Garner.
Even if we get Branthwaite for 20m less than current market value, Everton will still be the side that has had the better of the transfer dealings overall between the clubs over the past 20 years.
However, I can still sympathise with the Everton fans who'll be reeling at losing their most promising player and the club won't even be able to take advantage of it or use the money to buy a replacement. Much like ourselves under the Glazers we had to suffer for the incompetence of our owners, Everton fans are suffering the same right now. So I can easily sympathise with them over that.
I just hope that they have the decency to see past the likely lower fee and they give Branthwaite a fair reception when he plays against them and not to take out the situation the club are in on the player. He's been a good player for them, given his all and his sale will probably play a big part in helping the club get some financial stability and hopefully avoid more points deductions next season.
07 Jun 2024 13:42:34
All kinds of reports about greenwood going to Juve. He will do very well there if true and great move for him to a massive club. Hope we get good value for him.
1.) 07 Jun 2024 13:52:02
Loan was a good decision by the hierarchy last summer, probably best to get this situation over and done with this summer for final, whatever the club does in this situation they will be criticised.
2.) 07 Jun 2024 14:47:18
Its an all around good outcome. let the guy get on with his life and his football and hopefully we get decent value. He is a tremendous talent. Better than all our current forwards and wingers imo. Good luck to him.
3.) 07 Jun 2024 17:20:39
Tremendous talent Ahmad, trash person. Hope he falls flat on his face ??.
4.) 07 Jun 2024 17:57:51
Agree with all of the above.
At the time Greenwood was just breaking through I thought we were set for 10 years with the trio of Rashford / Martial / Greenwood. For very different reasons it hasn't worked out.
I wish him the best and hope he and his partner are happy going forward.
5.) 07 Jun 2024 19:11:12
I am quite happy to see him achieve some form of redemption. I don't generally expect high moral character from teenagers who have too much money and have come from poor backgrounds.
6.) 07 Jun 2024 21:02:04
Two years ago we had two stellar English strikers in Rashy and Greenwood. A shame what’s happened to both in terms of Utd but Greenwood can forge a very successful career away from the glare of the English press elsewhere. Might even get to a point where the next English manager/ potter/ poch has to have a think.
7.) 07 Jun 2024 21:14:58
Doesn’t deserve any redemption and he background was fine noting to do with how he grew up
Guys vile and doesn’t deserve a move to any big club.
{Ed025's Note - im with you Bolger..
8.) 07 Jun 2024 22:16:12
I don't think he gets near the England setup under any manager, no matter how he plays. MEngland so not need that kind of negative publicity.
9.) 08 Jun 2024 08:20:17
He screwed up the opportunity to become a club legend but we will never truly know all the facts to be fair. Best for him to move, hopefully a decent fee for us and a sell on clause just to be wise.
10.) 08 Jun 2024 15:17:27
To say the morality is low linked to poor background? Shawthing?
11.) 08 Jun 2024 15:23:05
Really good player will do well wherever he goes. I wish him every success. England's loss which is always nice?.
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30 Aug 2025 23:38:34
These matches are very hard to watch as a united fan. It seems so hard for us to beat any team that is decent.
I am happy we picked up 3 points but not sure where we are going and was this a start of something or just a win along a series of bad results coming our way.
I like Amorim but his conduct on the touchline is puzzling and not sure what to make of it. sitting with his head down whilst still 15 minutes to go is very strange behavior and not sure it does any good for the team moral or confidence.
1.) 31 Aug 2025 06:58:48
Ahmad,
It's a case of, you can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
2.) 31 Aug 2025 12:02:23
In your opinion they are, but personally I think we are playing the best and most entertaining football we have seen since the days of SAF.
We are more fun to watch then under any Moyes, LvG, Jose, Ole, Rangnick, and EtH.
We create more chances and play with more freedom. We look exciting and likely to score (even if the finishing is lacking right now) .
Sure the results aren't what we would want, which is frustrating. But the performances are getting better and if you get the performances right then results will come.
For all the talk about our midfield being "non-existent" we actually look fine in most games for the first 60 minutes or so. It's when players begin to tire that gaps start to open up. A lack of quality options off the bench and for rotation is making it difficult to maintain levels for the whole 90 minutes.
We have the 5th best defensive record in the league in terms of chances conceded. We would be higher if it wasn't for the individual errors presenting multiple opportunities to the opposition.
Ultimately two things are holding us back.
1. Individual errors at both ends, keepers gifting chances (4 of the 6 goals we have conceded are from keeper errors), while a lack of finishing (highest number of shots taken in the league and the second highest xG) .
Simply put it the keepers didn't make those errors and we scored on par with our xG we would have 9 points from 3 games.
2. A lack of squad depth in key positions meaning players lack true competition for places and the ability for rotation to maintain performance levels.
The first issue will hopefully improve as confidence levels rise.
The second issue needs further investment in the squad.
Neither are the fault of the manager.
3.) 31 Aug 2025 20:48:52
Shappy, I have to agree with you here. As you probably saw from the live chat, I was in the Mariners ground with my neighbour on his sons ticket the other night. Say what you will, but it was a great night of football, absolute Roy of the Rovers stuff, and I really enjoyed the night even though they came out on top (and gave themselves club history forever) . The manager looked downcast towards the end, and the home crowd picked up on it, making it even worse for him.
As mentioned earlier, RA has the same stats now as SAF when he first came here.
It will come together, players will gel, but when things go wrong, which they will, he needs to stand in front of his team, not behind it peeping out as he seems to be doing currently.
"Sometimes I hate my team, sometimes I like my team. "
Different country, different culture and English as a second language doesn't help him when he comes out with things like that.
And as for rotation. why does he back off from giving the young bucks a chance? Sideways Shaw seems a continual shoe in, but Leon, where he? Heaven on earlier, why not?
It's a funny old game.
4.) 31 Aug 2025 21:01:42
Shappy
Best entertaining football since fergie?
Entertaining football is when you score a lot and create a lot have beautiful passing patterns and build up play and we have none of that.
we have our worst output under this manager since fergie both in terms of points and goals scored. stop bs and be real.
26 Aug 2025 11:32:02
page is flooded with people who think highly of Amorim and many like myself who like him as a person but don't rate him at all as a manger. Based on our results he is the worst manager we have had in 40 years.
He is also not the first manager or the last one who has had to deal with toxicity and multiple other issues at the club, all before him have had the same things to deal with but could manage results and win trophies.
its simple, time for him to speak less and do his talking by how we play on the pitch and our results. What would really suck is to be out of things by a distance playing one game a week before Christmas. that will be a first for me and unforgivable.
I will be the first to say i was so so so wrong about him if we see a turn around but still believe he will get himself sacked and along the way fall out with more players.
He can't win in this league consistently and that's what you get when you hire someone with 4 years of managerial experience, No European pedigree and really an outlier.
Let's see where we are after 10 games and by Christmas.
1.) 26 Aug 2025 12:31:51
LOL! The old 10 game wait. Sounds familiar.
2.) 26 Aug 2025 13:02:47
Knives out already, expect this from the media, but fans just have no stomach for the fight anymore.
He is practically changing the whole team. A full reset.
So far this season we spent 190m and sold ZERO. Nothing at all. We need to get the rest of the old squad out and replaced with new players that are I for the fight and suit his system and then let's see where we are.
Amorim knows he wants a better keeper. He knows we need a better midfielder. He probably also knows that Bruno doesn't work in a 2 unless you have a one man wrecking machine playing next to him.
The team is playing better, yes we need to take some chances. Yes we need to improve our midfield and keeper.
2 games in and people are giving up already. Amorim is making the right moves and pushing the right players out. Kobbie is not going to go and will be playing. Yes he needs to drop Bruno or sub him more. He will get us back to top. Have some patience.
3.) 26 Aug 2025 13:36:22
Yes i'm sure we all like him as a person, i don't think many have had a problem any of the managers post fergie as people, apart from maybe Ryan Giggs, he's done some questionable things in his life to say the least lol.
The thing i found odd about Amorim is last season, he didn't make us better than ETHs tenure at all, in fact we became considerably worse, i would have expected some improvement at least.
First two games season have been a slight improvement but nothing remarkable which is where my concern about his management comes in.
4.) 26 Aug 2025 13:37:38
It’s 2 games in ??.
5.) 26 Aug 2025 13:56:51
It’s actually 30 games in and a preseason and 2 windows.
6.) 26 Aug 2025 14:04:54
We have to remember that Amorim is still a relatively new manager, still learning the game and shaping his own style. If we expected the finished article to walk through the door, we need to be realistic. He’s developing, and with that comes mistakes, but our job as fans is to support him and the team through the ups and downs.
Somewhere along the way, we’ve lost that. The away fans are impeccable, giving everything for ninety minutes no matter what. But too many of us at home have become fair-weather supporters, and frankly, it’s embarrassing.
I watched Newcastle last night. Their club has been through the mill this summer, yet how did their fans respond? Full-throated backing from start to finish, it was impressive and intimidating for Liverpool.
Sir Alex thrived when it felt like United against the world, and the whole club, players and fans, believed in it. We need to find that spirit again. Because the success of this team will depend just as much on the backing from the stands as it will on the formations and tactics chosen in the dugout.
7.) 26 Aug 2025 11:57:30
With you 100% Ahmed in that
He just lacks the experience required at this level.
His in game management is crap
His line ups appear to be very strange
Like ETH he seems to have a knack of upsetting players
But for me the sticking to one way and one way only is ridiculous when after 30 games over 200 million half a team bought in and it’s clearly not working.
The usual suspects on here keep crying out we need players with EPL experience why is it not the same for the manager, he needs EPL experience!
Win rate is 24% that’s relegation level, many clubs have changed managers it don’t take them 30 games to get a better win percentage than us.
We are just very poor and one more player is not going to cut it, atm all the players we bought would suit most managers, so for me just cut our loses now otherwise we just delay the inevitable.
8.) 26 Aug 2025 14:21:34
Ahmad, just out of curiosity, which players has Amorim fallen out with already? Surely you can't be thinking of the crap that we have been trying to shift out for years?
9.) 26 Aug 2025 14:49:52
Yes Grim but it’s hard to support someone who does not seem to learn, I’m sure if you been doing your job a year you would expect much improvement and you had been given even better tools to do it
He nearly been a year now, it’s not working 24% win rate is unacceptable his lack of experience is for the world to see, apart from red tint brigade!
He been shocking, from in game management to picking teams to being so stubborn he had enough games and players now….
He is honest he talks a good game but the lack of experience is there for all to see
Bully we look a bit better against Arsenal! That’s what we judging on.
The Portuguese league is poor he might get away with it there but he been found wanting in EPL.
10.) 26 Aug 2025 16:17:27
2 games in and Spurs have two wins with a new manager. Fed up of this BS argument oh its 2 games in.
11.) 26 Aug 2025 16:34:12
I'll judge him after this team has two quality midfielders and a decent goalkeeper.
12.) 26 Aug 2025 16:44:44
German you honestly count last season with his one kid signing?
Let’s be realistic now, last season was a write off by all within the club
You have to judge him on this season, he’s had a few players in, some have left on a free but we are still struggling to get rid of some.
He’s had a pre season and have we looked worse than last season? I don’t think so.
Last season we would have lost that game against Fulham it wasn’t as bad as most are making out
Small margins another day we win the game.
Let’s judge him and the team more than 2 games in. lucky the club don’t have these type of knee jerk reactions to dropped points or it would be a new manager every other week
Pathetic by some it really is.
13.) 26 Aug 2025 17:21:41
Bolger we did not lose that game against Fulham last year or the year before or before!
What other manager has had months and months of it don’t matter games…. Even a write off season we should never ever be finishing 15th that’s utter crap and you know it
Even ETH who I detest was doing better With wins than RA as was Ole, actually I think every manager in United history must have better win % than RA
Plus did he not get Dorgu and Heavan in so maybe your wrong again
Did he not change to this ridiculous system when he had no players to play it
Did Franks join spurs 2 games ago he not needed 30 games plus
The red specs is just unbelievable.
14.) 26 Aug 2025 18:18:31
I think you need a few days off this forum German.
Ranting constantly after two games is a worry and it might be better for you to take some time away from football if a second half of average football upsets you this much.
Remember we are creating more chances than any other team in this league after two games, we are just not converting them. That will be fixed quickly and things will start to look a lot better.
15.) 26 Aug 2025 19:09:53
We need hin to upset players. We need rid of the ones he is upsetting. Grow a spine man.
16.) 26 Aug 2025 19:28:45
United
Garna gone, rash gone, kobe looks like going if this continues. Hoiland went backwards under this guy and gone, kobe not sure wtf has happened but zero progress under this guy. who has actually progressed. Dalot player of the year two years ago gone to sh. t
Its how useless and toothless we are in terms of style of play, creating proper scoring chances especially when we need to raise our. His substitutions actually make us harder to watch is what gets under my skin. Yoro and shaw off in the 87th minute for two defenders in a game we should be pushing to win is gutless imo.
Keefy
If we are sitting on 10 to 13 points after 10 games, people might not find it that weird of a statement:)
17.) 26 Aug 2025 19:43:45
Ahmad you haven't answered. Which players has he fallen out with?
18.) 26 Aug 2025 19:49:59
United
Rash, Garna, Kobe.
19.) 26 Aug 2025 20:25:15
Grim, you can’t fix stupid. Certainly not in “a few days”.
20.) 26 Aug 2025 21:24:36
So the same players that ten hag had issues with?
Please don’t make out Amorim had fallen out with rasjford and Garnacho mate
And reports in the media must mean it’s true he’s fallen out with mainoo. imagine believing everything the media write ?
Both have had issues with there attitude for years and the club is miles better off without any of them
This site honesty and this fan base make me laugh we call for change and a culture change and as soon as a manager comes in that needs to reset the clubs mentality inc the fans gets stabbed at every knock back
I don't get where some get that we should be up the table fighting for major trophies and positions we are a mid table club that needs to reset from the ground up
That’s what they are trying.
21.) 27 Aug 2025 00:18:16
Match going fans are still well behind the manager, it’s a long season, will be ups and down, but he does need to start winning asap.
02 Dec 2024 05:00:40
now we get into a really tough stretch of games that we need to pick up points. We have
Arsenal away
Forrest at home
City away
Spurs away
Bournemouth home
Wolves away
NC at home
Liverpool Away
Its unfortunate that RA will be playing this hectic schedule without really getting a lot of time with this squad. I suspect our season will depend on how well we do from these games.
If we can lose only 2 from these games I think we have done very well.
1.) 02 Dec 2024 07:18:15
At the same time it will show his credentials and ability to adjust on the fly. I personally think it’s a good run of games as it will truely show where we are and can realistically expect to be. Would rather that than a false dawn after playing bottom teams.
2.) 02 Dec 2024 08:53:20
1 game at a time that's what the manager says.
3.) 02 Dec 2024 09:12:49
This period will really show if the players listen to what RA wants and if their mentality is stronger. Weaknesses will be exposed and a lot may depend on how many injuries/ suspensions the squad gets.
4.) 02 Dec 2024 09:18:02
Looking at how he has rotated the team so far I think he will utilise the whole squad during this period. Some players will get more minutes as they have taken to Amorims methods better but by the Liverpool game everyone will have had a chance to impress (I think we may see some of the younger players as well) .
Whilst the results may be up and down over this period it will mean that going into the January window the club will know what if any additions they need.
5.) 02 Dec 2024 11:19:07
Some players returning to form and a manager with a clear style and idea. I think we will do alright in the next few games.
6.) 02 Dec 2024 12:01:08
I'm feeling confident.
RA is really getting a tune out of the players expected to provide a goal return and that massive step shouldn't be overlooked.
In 3 games under RA, Rashford's got 3, Hojlund's got 2, Zirkzee 2 and Garnacho 1.
Of those 4, only Garnacho (2) returned goals from the 4 games under Ruud.
From ten Hag's 13 games this season, Rashford got 4, Hojlund got 2, Zirkzee 1 and Garnacho 5.
Under RA so far, we average 2.66 goals per game.
Under Ruud - 2.75.
Under ten Hag this season - 1.46.
Imo, the reason our strikers failed under ten Hag is clear - the wide attackers he preferred simply didn't put in enough work for the central striker. Now, if we use Rashford as an example being played as one of the tens, there's no room in the RA system for an attacker to hide.
We will need to see rotation between Hojlund, Zirkzee and Rashford up top, just as we'll need to see the same between Rashford, Bruno, Garnacho and Mount as the 10s.
Arsenal will be the first real acid test for how well the players respond to high-level pressure in the RA system.
I think we'll see Shaw at LCB trying to prevent Dalot getting skinned by Saka too badly, we should surely see Casemiro next to Ugarte, we might even see Zirkzee and Rashford keep their places.
While we'll be weak on our left flank, Arsenal might also be rather weak on their left if Calafiori doesn't make it - the game could easily be won by whoever of Saka and Amad performs best.
Moving forward, we have enough players to be rotated sensibly.
Before the turn of the year there are 18 PL points available to us, I'd expect the objective to be a return of 12 minimum.
If we could get 12 points from the games against Forest, Bournemouth, Wolves and Newcastle, we could be in the top 6 come January.
Under ten Hag this season, we were all desperate to feel some positivity, something to get our inner ids feeling the Panini/ Subbuteo feels, get us enthused - but we felt flat, to me the games felt like stale reenactments with little more oompf than a gaggle of Larpers.
Under Ruud, and now under RA, the positivity has returned, the workrate has returned, the fight, the spirit, the small doses of that special something which makes a fan feel the game.
Under RA, we now see the application of an identity, a footballing structure that has purpose. The positivity is growing amongst the players within this new performance culture, we need to reflect the upturn in application from them by showing our appreciation and support while also being positive.
Obviously, we could stink the house out throughout this run, but I'm feeling confident - I'm even feeling confident about our visit to them drawn to the Asda, maybe we can give them a Rollback.
7.) 02 Dec 2024 20:33:37
Stats are meaningless after 3 games against relegation candidates and a Norwegian team on level with a league 1 team. Arsenal and the upcoming fixures will be a better reflection.
8.) 02 Dec 2024 21:12:22
Arsenal are a class above anyone we have faced recently. Will be a hard match and realistically we are not close to their level. They have had a few years to perfect their patterns of play. Their squad is settled and players know their roles and have built partnerships all over the field.
Its entirely possible Utd surprise us all but more likely that they win easily.
9.) 03 Dec 2024 00:04:48
Math troll,
Bodo/ Glimt are a decent side doing well in the EL and are not on league 1 level, what a pathetic thing to say. No surprise though I guess, all of your posts are the same, assume you’re an opposition fan.
10.) 03 Dec 2024 01:09:45
And now arsenal away in the cup! Time to see what this formation is all about, quite the run of games ?.
11.) 03 Dec 2024 06:49:50
just saw that what a lousy draw. Its a bit of baptism of fire. On a positive note this is the healthiest the squad has been in years.
12.) 03 Dec 2024 09:19:38
Would prefer beat good teams rather than fodder to get to a final.
13.) 03 Dec 2024 11:47:03
Math
Oh dear, you strike again. Perhaps you should rename yourself GOTCHA.
The stats I mentioned are respective of goalscoring, not the opposition or what quality you and your soapbox believe applies to 'lesser' teams.
The first batch of stats are reflective of how well the squad's 'goalscorers' are doing compared to before. The next batch simply reflect the obvious. Then I opined - is that not what we're on here for?
Since you like to bin off stats so readily, I'll remind you of the last time United actually played a real League One side - Barnsley at home in the Carabao Cup in September, 7-0 win.
7-0 and 3-2 - yes, they're very similar scorelines, aren't they?
14.) 03 Dec 2024 15:11:51
Why does Math not post anything on your own club page? Or do you use a different login?
15.) 04 Dec 2024 09:28:50
I think this run of games will be perfect.
It's a good mix of harder and easier games, which should help the players adapt to the new system. Easier games will let the players focus on the system more, and harder games will really test the players and expose flaws to work on in training. We will drop some points, but if it helps get players into the flow of the system more quickly, it's worth it.
The main thing IMO is to get us ready for January. If the players can get more used to the system, without dropping too many points, then in January we can hopefully get in a lwb and be ready to kick on from there.
03 Nov 2024 06:24:55
Anyone following the under 18s. they are smashing teams for fun and the scores are so crazy. I hope there is a proper plan for this team in terms of loans and first team debuts. it can't be fluke as they are now at this for 2 years.
Each week there seems to be different guys too and not just one or two players. If they can make the transition to senior football successfully there is a few hundred million of talent sitting there.
1.) 03 Nov 2024 07:57:09
There's obviously obi Martin but the name being talked about most and I'm sure red man has mentioned him before is ibragimov.
2.) 03 Nov 2024 08:19:13
Ibramigov will be goood he has tht hardworking aura about him.
3.) 03 Nov 2024 09:03:34
Wiggy
Yes I did write about him on here a year or so ago. One of two brothers at the club if I recall correctly and the third brother is a notable MMA fighter.
There is another youngster who is being talked about as being potentially outstanding and that is JJ Gabriel, Joseph Gabriel, who at 14 is known as Kid Messi. That good he was recently moved up to train with the U18 team. They say the coaches are blown away by his talent. Will be keeping an eye out for him.
4.) 03 Nov 2024 12:59:48
We are currently blessed with a fantastic array of talent in our academy. That hasn't happened by chance, the rebuilding of the academy and the recruitment process at that level over the past 4-5 years are behind our current success at that level.
The challenge now is how can we help support our youngsters in making that leap from youth to senior football.
That step is massive and many talented lads fail to make it. You need a combination of talent, attitude and physical development.
Lads who don't quite have the level of talent we need but have a great attitude and physical condition often go on to make it lower down the football pyramid.
Lads who have the talent and the attitude but maybe take longer than others to grow into a mans body and be physically capable often end up playing at youth level for too long. They don't get the step up in skill and tactical knowledge to keep them growing and developing as players. As such they stall and often then struggle to reach their potential as they've spent several key development years not developing. A player who springs to mind in this bracket is Angel Gomes, someone who so obviously has the talent and the attitude, but has always been small and easily bullied.
We need a plan for these players. They probably will struggle for regular game time in England due to the physical nature of the game here, especially in lower leagues. We might need to look at loans to foreign leagues that are less physically demanding. In recent years we have actually seen many young English players leave EPL clubs to move abroad and start their careers. We should be looking at loans abroad for the lads who might struggle with the physical demands in England.
Finally we have the lads who have the talent and physical traits needed, but lack the right attitude. These lads get found out at professional level fairly quickly. Unless they quickly learn to change their attitude they tend to drop down the leagues. This is something that needs noticing earlier in the academy and working with these lads to help them improve their attitude before they get close to making their debut. Greater pastoral care for these lads when they are still kids might mean we have fewer Ravel Morrisons.
Looking at our current crop we have some players who really stand out.
Amir Ibragimov, Shea Lacey, Chido Obi-Martin, Jack Fletcher, Harry Amass and Samuel Lusale tend to stand out every time they play. I'd expect 2 or 3 of them to have a decent career with us, maybe a great one. Sekou Kone will be interesting to see how he adapts. Great things are expected of him.
You then have players like Elyh Harrison, Finley McAllister, Ethan Williams, Tyler Fletcher, Zach Baumann, Gabriele Biancheri and Bendito Mantato who are also showing a lot of ability and could put themselves into contention to get a debut and show what they can do.
The defenders are typically harder to tell as they need experience and time to grow to see who out of them might be able to make that step up. For them physicality is far more important for their position which means you have to wait longer to see who will be able to step up.
It's a great bunch and we have some potentially even more talented lads in the younger age groups as well.
15 Oct 2024 14:13:09
Never a dull day at United. Fergie's Involvement as club ambassador coming to an end.
This started a while ago and a lot of perks ex players enjoyed has come to an end.
1.) 15 Oct 2024 14:43:35
At £2m+ per annum in wages to SAF that's a decent saving. Plus SAF wasn't averse to suddenly cutting a player off at the knees for whatever reason he considered sound so difficult to feel sympathy for him. He'll still get to see matches as an unpaid member.
2.) 15 Oct 2024 14:50:32
2m pa is shocking.
Delighted they have withdrawn that role.
He will always be an ambassador for the club and we won't have to pay him.
Scandalous he was getting that sort of money.
3.) 15 Oct 2024 15:06:09
I wouldn't begrudge the salary Fergie gets for the role, it becomes a bit untenable when United are making a quarter of the workforce redundant.
Whilst we wait to see improvements on the pitch, at least we can see that we are back on the road to being run as a financially sound business.
4.) 15 Oct 2024 18:14:11
SAF influence should have been ended years ago, he should not have been allowed to push Moyes on the club. Liverpool sorted Shankly out quickly if I remember.
Well done to the new board, who made a decision relatively quickly.
Great he can attend games, let him enjoy his time around the club, but cease his influence on decisions as well. Good saving on the outgoings of the club.
5.) 15 Oct 2024 19:03:12
Yup. Let’s get rid of the one remaining person who truly understands the identity and ethos of the club so that we can settle into our new reality of mediocrity. We wouldn’t want SAF sharing his wisdom and decades of experience with Ten Hag, who clearly knows exactly what he’s doing.
£2m is a lot though, so I guess there is a silver lining of sorts. In forty years, we’ll have saved enough to cover the cost of the Antony transfer fee.
6.) 15 Oct 2024 20:25:33
We needed to move forward Red Seven, SAF influence over the last 11 years has not helped us develop. He was a great leader but we could not stay based on what worked in the 1980’s, we needed and need to move on.
7.) 15 Oct 2024 21:10:28
Perhaps a few more managers need to cut players off at the knees then possibly we would not be in the poor position we are currently with over privileged players walking round like they own the joint.
Again the club is being judged on the success he brought to the club and he perhaps deserves a little more respect than it appears he has been given, but of course that could be the press embellishing the story.
Thanks Fergie for all you have done for this great club.
8.) 15 Oct 2024 22:22:54
Beyond the appointment of Moyes none of us know what SAF's influence has or hasn't been over the last 11 years. I had always thought that he might be sticking his oar in on transfers but not so according to my executive inside track a couple of years ago. It was always Woodward, the accountant making all those great decisions.
My opinion is that SAF was an extremely loyal manager who - in public at least - found a way never to cross the owners. He retired at the top. After the last title he knew the gig was up, that he'd wrung every ounce of success he could out of a club that had an aging squad and was no longer competing for top players. I sat next to a Scotsman on a transatlantic flight who had only just had dinner with SAF's brother, and this is what he told me.
Clearly he doesn't need the money any more. He's estimated to have a net worth of $70m. He should be delighted to give up his paycheck for the good of the club. He will always be a legend. Our Rock of Gibraltar. Irony intended.
9.) 16 Oct 2024 07:24:49
Fergie will be feted rightly as a god by all who inhabit OT. He just doesn't need to be paid by the club any more.
He won't need money, he doesn't do a role that requires paying so why would a business any business keep giving money to someone they don't need especially when current rules over money hold back the people running the club from doing all they think they need to get to where the want to be.
I don't know what influence Sir Alex exerted over the club but I do know we spent a decade trying and failing to run the club as he did when all the successful clubs had moved to a new model, it didn't work because the key missing element was Sir Alex himself.
I have little doubt he will be welcomed back at OT whenever he wants and rightly lauded and probably offering his opinions to those who matter as and when it's wanted, he just doesn't need to be paid a couple of million a year for that.
10.) 16 Oct 2024 14:13:36
Spot on oakbark.
11.) 17 Oct 2024 04:40:37
No one man is bigger than the club, but the club would be a whole lot smaller were it not for SAF’s contributions. Given what he did for the club, £2m a year seems like a bargain, especially when we’re paying Antony £10m and Rashford £15m.
12.) 18 Oct 2024 10:36:28
redseven
I know you don't like rash but he can get that wage anywhere. he turned down 400 to go to PSG. He is our best winger whether you folks like it or not. He is a top player but getting a lot of hate from a section of the fan base for no reason.
The rest get a free pass whilst everything gets directed at him. They are also earning wages that is comparative to what they would earn elsewhere and that's what agents make sure they do for their players.
10 Oct 2025 14:15:39
turki says a lot of stuff. would not spend too much on what he says. He likes the attention.
19 Oct 2024 09:05:40
Redseven
A midfielder who has an excellent first touch and turn who advances the ball, intelligent and good passer and a good engine on him can play for most good teams.
Don't muddy the waters. If he is healthy and if we genuinely want him and can be secured by people who are a lot more qualified than me and you, I am happy to go with it.
18 Oct 2024 23:17:38
Redseven
So FDJ is a great player but because eth wants him you don't want him. okay then that makes a lot of sense.
18 Oct 2024 10:45:21
A healthy a FDJ is a superb player and will have many suitors. I can see city and many other top teams lining up. He would vastly improve us so no issues from me if he came.
Unfortunately he seems to keep injuring the same ankle so its just another click bait story imo.
29 Sep 2024 11:44:02
Arteta lost his first 3 league games in his third year and had managed 4 points from first 5 games.
Arsenal fans were calling for his head and the whole stadium was booing. people have short memories and revisionist.
The spend amount that keeps getting quoted is just lazy stuff go to Transfermarkt and add 3 numbers, can't be that difficult.
If beating city was a yeaah why has no one else done it the England since Guardiola has been here yeaah.
15 Oct 2025 18:33:05
3-1 to the Scousers unfortunately. back to reality for us after sunderland.
11 Oct 2025 08:35:24
shappy
You make me laugh bud. we are stuck to 16 to 11 for a year now with Amorim. His record is the worst of any manger for last 35/ 40 years. This is not just slightly underperforming, this is a historic bad for a club like united.
Throwing out stats to tell people hey we are really not that bad just does not cut it. Start with winning games on a consistent basis and stop losing so often to average teams, that will help people change their mind.
Anything less is whatever imo no matter how likeable the guy is.
10 Oct 2025 17:37:57
Dodgy
I am a redsox fan and nothing makes me happier than seeing the yankees get bounced again.
10 Oct 2025 14:28:52
UA
if this if that never gets you anywhere. Reality bis we have been two promoted teams a chelsea team that had their goalie sent off in the 5ht minute and we had to pray for the final whistle in that game and hanging on.
Whether its players/ system/ coaching this team will concede goals against better teams and bang average offensively against better teams in the pl. we do create more but then again we spent 200 million on 3 front men with 2 pl proven.
I thought we would beat sunderland and I also said we will get our ass handed to us at anfield. He might be gone by the next international break as too many games now coming that look like we will crumble.
08 Sep 2025 13:02:12
ed001
happy to send you dorgu and take kerkez off your hands:)
{Ed001's Note - god no.}