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28 Aug 2025 17:59:12
Some stories floating around the Internet that Burnley will be Amorims last game in charge. He's walking away apparently.

Just passing on what I read. Likely a load of made up rubbish.

Fallguy

1.) 28 Aug 2025 18:59:27
It has come from his post match interview when he basically said that himself, not sure if it was just emotion talking though.


2.) 28 Aug 2025 21:01:56
No, it was Ruben Amorim, GDS. It was on tv and all, unless this emotion was impersonating him, and, as we all know, identity theft is not a joke.


3.) 28 Aug 2025 23:10:56
I thought Amorim was calling out his players for their attitude for not following their instructions.

I thought in the second half he bought on those he does trust to save the game.

I have heard/ read a lot of different takes on those words.

I think he's done because he's realised that we still need that open heart surgery and what he thought would happen this summer hasn't.

I didn't think we would go into this season with no midfield.


4.) 28 Aug 2025 23:19:34
Why is Amorim calling out his players? He selects them. It’s kind of obvious that several players believe that they are better than what they really are. Leave them out.


5.) 29 Aug 2025 00:15:27
Becsuse i dint think he expected to have the squad he did. We have clearly been after a DM and GK as well but we didn't think we would shift no one on.

He can only select from what he has i dknt think anyone thought qe would think this GK options and rhis midfield would be acceptable.


6.) 29 Aug 2025 09:10:22
Mourinho, Ruud, and Ole are now all available. I’d actually have Jose back, although would prefer to stick with Amorim, assuming he hasn’t lost all faith in the project.


7.) 29 Aug 2025 09:22:33
I think he's the kind of person who would walk away if he felt that the players weren't with him.

However, I don't think that will happen this weekend. I feel like his interviews after the Grimsby game had a lot of emotion in them, which will happen after a bad performance and result, at least it does if you care.

While Amorim's display of emotion was different, it's the same thing as when SAF would come out after a game angry (which often ended with a fine/ ban from the FA) . It's the emotions that hit immediately after and during games.

I suspect once that immediate spike in emotions has subsided and the brain starts to take back the wheel with logic I imagine Amorim's response will be very different.

What we need to do now is decide are we fans or are we supporters. We play a big role at our club, we can either get behind the team and the manager, try and be that 12th man on the pitch, help carry them when they are struggling so that the club can move forward. Or we can turn toxic, snipe and tear them down, dragging our club backwards.

We know how the latter turns out, we've seen it enough times over the past decade. Hopefully we've learned from our mistakes and we choose a different path now.


8.) 29 Aug 2025 11:43:00
‘He picks them’ is hilarious how quick we forget we had to fill the bench with kids last season or how bad we were, there is no one else to pick from. 3 windows turns into 3 matches ….
The top 4 could put out a 2nd team to challenge us, we can’t fill a first 11 with half decent players, never mind a bench. Bar 2 players the squad needed changing. It does highlight how Eth decimated the club though (they couldn’t play 4-3-3 either) . Give the new boys achance despite them senior management has failed miserably this window. (So far) i honestly believe we are only a couple of players away from a good side. We just have to get our heads down till we get there and get rid of those who aren’t bothered. it’s clear that every manager can see how weak our players are they get after us in the first half it’s piss easy. Having said that he should strengthen midfield in the first half. Once we go behind even Arsenal had eight men behind the ball. But are the players capable of that? A pub team would be able to play his formation by now which raises all types of questions.


 

 

02 Aug 2025 08:37:00
If reports this morning are to be believed, Sesko has chosen Newcastle.

Not sure the source is reliable. But being repeated by lots of "news" outlets.

Fallguy

1.) 02 Aug 2025 08:58:02
It all seems to track back to a Slovenian newspaper. No idea how reputable they are, but also can’t see what reason they’d have to lie. Will wait for Ornstein or some other reputable journo to confirm, but seems like we’ve missed out on another top striker.


2.) 02 Aug 2025 09:15:41
I think it's true so Liverpool have more chance of getting isak bloody klopp.


3.) 02 Aug 2025 10:47:17
Newcastle have made formal bid for Sesko. If Sesko wants them so be it. If he wants United we can’t dither, it’s cough up or wave another CF off. Newcastle have put their money on the table, up to Sesko. Usually you would think Newcastle would have had the nod from Sesko before putting a bid in, yet reports say he is interested in both.

We can’t hold out like we did with MBueno, it’s cough up now at the price or be frankly embarrassed.

Let’s be honest if Leipzig sell to Newcastle we aren’t likely to sell Hojland to them.


4.) 02 Aug 2025 10:53:39
Can’t see us beating Newcastle unless Sesko really doesn’t want to go there. We’re managing funds and Newcastle have had a shocker and could lose Isak. I recon they will go all in.


5.) 02 Aug 2025 11:15:36
Looking like no Sesko. Watkins isn’t for sale apparently.

Maybe no new striker this summer. Never mind.

Maybe Mbeuno can play up top with Cunha and Bruno in the 10’s. And then get a good midfielder instead.


6.) 02 Aug 2025 11:33:32
There will be lots of back and forth with this deal. The media are having a field day, it's a big fancy name player, who'll go for a large fee, is linked to United, and could be a pawn in the big Isak transfer news.

We will get so many angles on this over the next week or so that it'll have our heads spinning. Yesterday United were the favourites, today it's Newcastle, don't be surprised if it's United again tomorrow.

Best to just ignore everything until the clubs announce something.

{Ed025's Note - thats a bit of a short post for you Shappy...are you sure your account hasn,t been hacked mate.. :)


7.) 02 Aug 2025 13:09:47
Shappy

I don't think that's going to be the case here.
Newcastle put the money already, we either match or Sesko goes there.


8.) 02 Aug 2025 13:04:20
Ed025, Haha, it's just not a subject that's worth much of my time.

{Ed025's Note - i do like your posts Shappy...but i am 67 now and sometimes wonder if i will still be alive to finish some of them mate.. :)


9.) 02 Aug 2025 13:34:15
Logorrhea is a serious condition that other than by those who suffer from it little is said.


 

 

27 Jun 2025 20:46:58
Mbuemo bid rejected. £62.5m offer and Brentford said no.

I don't understand transfers, why don't they get in a room and negotiate the deal and then say yes or no in the room? Why waste weeks thinking about it, go back with an offer for them say no a second time?

Waste of time.

Fallguy

{Ed007's Note - It's called negotiating and probably is best done electronically so there is trail to keep any skullduggery out the equation, millionaire's negotiating million £ deals in person could get very dodgy.
But the surprising thing is that no matter what transfer - anywhere in the world it is - they still find the time to let a certain few ITK's know every single step of the process for their social medias - it's almost as if they just make stuff up and then delete the tweets. ?


1.) 27 Jun 2025 21:38:23
Brentford supposedly want the same fee as cunha or even slightly more. That second bid is £55m guaranteed with adds ons. Depends on the add ons but obviously Brentford not happy with them. I’d say they want £60m + guaranteed. Not much of a difference but probably take us another 4 weeks to get there lol.


2.) 27 Jun 2025 23:02:49
You either offer what they want or walk away and move into the next target. They have had a few weeks to sort it, what’s the problem.


3.) 27 Jun 2025 23:36:07
Completely new backroom staff and we’re still embarrassingly sluggish at this lark.


4.) 27 Jun 2025 23:42:53
I think he only has a year left on his contract. I know we don't want a repeat of last season but maybe we should ask him to keep the faith and sign him next year for free with a substantial signing on fee?


5.) 28 Jun 2025 01:17:15
Arty Stan, he has a year with an option for the club to extend by a year so essentially be has 2 years left on his contract for the purpose of negotiations.


6.) 28 Jun 2025 03:32:01
Fallguy, it's not that simple. These are big sums of money, and there are several parties involved. United don't want any more deals done in or out until 1st july.
Timing is crucial. Player sales are also needed and I'm sure we will see a lot of activity over the next 2 weeks both in and out.
From what I've read and listened to its not now about the sum offered i ts about making the add ons more achievable and a shorter payment structure. That will be resolved but will be dependent on what terms we can negotiate for our exits so the books balance every year.
A lot of intertwined and complex deals that are all independent but reliant on each other.
For example if we spend too much before we sell and rasford sancho and casimero hold the club to their contracts and don't move then we are in the world of trouble.
We could see in terms of the 1st team squad as many as 10 out and 5 in. It's a very fine balancing act and really difficult to get everything done. 3 outs done easy out of contract. Malacia Garnacho rashford sancho Anthony bayindir casimero are all in the 90% + category to leave and none of those deals will be easy to complete.
I've no doubt that the club are stalling due to timing and getting all aligned is super difficult.


7.) 28 Jun 2025 05:51:55
It’s tough to lose a player like Mbuemo, but constantly caving to pressure only sets a precedent—one that says your club can be pushed around. If the valuation is fair, then hold the line. Walk away if you have to. That sends a clear message: we know what our assets are worth, and we won’t be bullied.

Other clubs learn fast. If they see you stand firm once or twice, the lowballing and squeezing stops. It’s painful in the short term, but it’s how you build long-term respect in the market.


8.) 28 Jun 2025 08:53:01
Time to walk away. In all of his other seasons, he's performed roughly at the same level as his xG, which is under 10 goals a season.

This season, he's scored 8 goals above his xG, it doesn't guarantee he will repeat his efforts. We should stop overpaying for players who have one good season.


9.) 28 Jun 2025 09:06:53
It's not that complex, these things take time, the problem is we have an entire branch of the media dedicated to discussing transfers. Trying to give a blow by blow account (which of course they aren't actually privy to) . They need to fill the gaps in the time so often just make things up.

In the case of Mbeumo it's just a matter of time. He has one year left on his contract, so Brentford can either sell him this summer or lose him for free next summer (given their savvy transfer dealings I doubt they will let him leave for nothing) .
Mbeumo is Brentford's best and most important player, as such they want to get the best deal they can for him as they will need to buy a replacement and they will also likely have to pay more for that replacement as the selling club will know they have a big fee from United for Mbeumo burning a hole in Brentford's pocket.
That is why Brentford are trying to get a bidding war going for Mbeumo, they know they are at a disadvantage as he only has a year left on his deal. So the only way to get a higher fee is if there is competition for his signature.
Mbeumo has reportedly stated he is only interested in a move to United. That is probably something that has been agreed between United and his agent to put pressure on Brentford to get the deal done sooner and at a lower fee.
United could choose to wait this out, the closer we get to deadline day the more likely Brentford accept a lower fee to avoid losing him for nothing next summer. However, it doesn't seem like that is something United want to do. While they know they will have to pay more to get the deal done sooner, that is something they seem willing to accept despite the tricky financial position. The only advantage of getting the deal done sooner is that it gives him more time to settle and work with the manager to make sure he hits the ground running and United start the season well. It seems that with this deal at least United are putting football success on the pitch above saving a few million.

This deal will be done and likely finalised in the next week or so. I'd expect Mbeumo to be present on the first day back for pre-season.

My advice for United fans, is largely ignore all the transfer gossip and "blow by blow" accounts. Especially if it's going to stress you out or cause you frustration. What will be will be, whether you know about it beforehand or not and regardless of whether you stress about it or not. So why bother letting it raise your blood pressure.


10.) 28 Jun 2025 09:41:25
Totally agree Shappy but it's likely a case of clubs knowing then can get a bit more out us. We probably should have settled Mbeumo first then signed Cunha. Brentford wouldn't have that power over us that they now have.


11.) 28 Jun 2025 10:48:59
Stan, maybe, but I'm not sure that would be worth it. Cunha was a deal that we could wrap up quickly and move on from giving us time to work on the many deals we have to sort both in and out of the club this summer.

Mbeumo was likely to be dragged out by Brentford regardless. Maybe we might have saved a few million, or got slightly more favourable terms on when the money is paid. But then we would have lost time on being able to negotiate other deals. Likewise, if we signed Mbeumo first then Wolves would have had grounds to demand better terms on the Cunha deal. While he had a set release fee, they typically have to paid all up front. United agreed a deal with Wolves to have a payment structure spread over several years.

It could have been a case where we save a few million on Mbeumo, but end up worse off having to pay out 10-20m more this summer to get Cunha rather than it being spread out more.

The total fee paid is probably less important to us this summer than the terms of when we have to make the payments and how big those payments are. Given our current financial position cashflow is the thing that will make or break our transfer window.


12.) 28 Jun 2025 14:34:09
I'm with Kurtis, he had a great season, but that's his only great season, his stats last year are freaky. It's a lot of money for 1 great season.


13.) 28 Jun 2025 15:17:14
He also has two good seasons before, and you also have to take into account that he is just getting into his best footballing years.


14.) 28 Jun 2025 16:48:12
Ajh for a person that promotes hating the club i'm surprised you care either way.


15.) 28 Jun 2025 17:12:59
Ken ?

Is there not an empty room you can go start an argument in?


16.) 29 Jun 2025 10:59:31
AJH, last season was a standout season for him without a doubt, but he has been excellent for Brentford for several years now.

He massively over achieved against his xG last season, which he is unlikely to do so to the same extent again. However, the best players tend to outperform their xG on a consistent basis. Maybe he benefitted from Toney leaving and relished the responsibility of being the main man. Stepping up and taking shots with lower xG values and actually scoring from them.

He's a player who is EPL proven, has consistently got 15+ goals and assists over the last few seasons in the EPL. Personally I'd say only Salah and Saka have been better players from the RW over the past three years in the EPL.

Yes it's a lot of money, especially given he has one year left on his deal (although Brentford have one year option they can trigger) . Yet around 60m for one of the top three players in the league in his position, as he starts to enter his peak years is probably a fair amount given the context of the market.

Chelsea are about to pay a similar amount for an unproven young English lad from Dortmund. A player with only 18 months of senior football under his belt and not a single minute of EPL football to his name.

If you were going to place £100 bet on which player will get the most goals and assists in the EPL next season between Mbeumo and Gittens I'd expect the majority of football fans wouldn't be backing the young Englishman.


17.) 01 Jul 2025 02:04:54
Snappy you also bet United would finish above Chelsea, not sure your bets are trust worthy ?.


 

 

11 Jun 2025 15:51:27
Things seems to be getting a little heated with Gyokeres. Reports that sporting are denying any agreement to let him leave for a lower fee. And also reports that the player is refusing to play for them again and won't return for preseason.

Interesting. Not sure I like it when a player threatens going on strike.

Have to wait and see what happens next.

Fallguy

1.) 11 Jun 2025 16:55:44
A 'gentleman's agreement' always seems silly, especially in a situation involving tens of millions of £. They're going to accept less just to be nice? What's the point in a release clause if there's a sidenote saying you might be allowed to go for less? I suspect the agent has realised he's not going to get as much out of it as he first thought.


2.) 11 Jun 2025 17:35:03
I think Gyokeres will end up staying at Sporting.

The club, player and agent are likely to price him out of a move.

Any move is likely to be the last big move for the player, so he and his agent will likely want to milk every penny from it. Add that to the higher transfer fee Sporting now want, it could all mean the deal will be too expensive for the few clubs that are interested.

I read that United have a list of targets for striker, wonder who else is on the list?


3.) 11 Jun 2025 18:50:42
He maybe had the agreement verbally which both sides were happy with, so he worked his socks off and had a great season to try and get the best move possible. Now he turned into one of the best strikers in Europe last season, they have gone back on the agreement and now want more as they think he’s worth more.


4.) 11 Jun 2025 19:34:38
Is he really one of the best strikers in Europe! Yes he doing great there but is Portuguese league a measuring stick for best in EU….
I don’t see a queue knocking the door down for him, no Barca, no Madrid, no Bayern, No PSG, No City even Arsenal seemed to have backed away.


5.) 11 Jun 2025 20:46:02
Is he the best? No. Is he one of the best? Yes.


6.) 11 Jun 2025 22:12:00
Spenno, players get sold for less than their release fee all the time. In Spain and Portugal having a release clause is a legal requirement for all footballers contracts. To try and get around that clubs often have insanely high release clauses in place knowing that no one would ever pay that much.

It's not uncommon for clubs to agree with players and agents that they would sell for a set fee in some kind of gentlemen's agreement, which of course is not legally binding.

On one hand I understand the perspective of the Sporting chairman, if he's agreed to sell him for a certain fee, only for him to do very well and suddenly that fee looks very reasonable, possibly below market value. He won't want to sell a player that will be almost impossible not replace for a below market value price.

On the other hand refusing to do so is not a smart move if he wants to continue running the club without issues. If he's seen as a man who does not keep to his word then he'll find himself in a difficult position when trying to sign new players or negotiate new contracts for existing players. Why would they believe anything he said.

It all seems very strange and a uncomfortable situation. Clubs generally have a rough idea about how much a player will likely cost in terms of fees, agents fees and wages before they start making serious moves and start speaking directly to the club.

The fact United have had direct meetings with Sporting suggests that they were under the impression that they would accept a figure that they are comfortable with paying.

If that isn't the case then either they've been lied to by the players agent or Sporting are moving the goalposts. Looking at the way the player has reacted it seems more like the latter than the former.

I wonder why that is. Could it be that they believe they initially undervalued the player? Or have they found out that their potential replacements are more expensive than they thought? Or could it be that they have been annoyed when dealing with Manchester United, either by the way the club have negotiated or by the fact that the club seems to have plenty of money to spend on Cunha and Mbeumo, but have plead poverty to Sporting?

For some reason the Lisbon club seen to have moved the goalposts, and it will take some savvy negotiating by United and some backpedaling from Sporting to resolve this situation and get a deal in place, which looks like the best case scenario for both the clubs and the player right now.


7.) 11 Jun 2025 23:19:43
He did very well in the very physical end to end english championship. Which in theory would point to a high chance of being able to hack it in the EPL.

However so did mitrovic but he was never able to replicate his form in the championship when in the PL. So I get the doubt in some fans minds.


8.) 12 Jun 2025 08:52:19
I know Shappy lol. I was referring more to the notion of a 'gentleman's agreement' in anything.


 

 

08 Jun 2025 12:38:14
Rumours around that Spurs might hijack the deal for Mbeumo now that it looks like Thomas Frank will be heading there.

Could be the papers making it up as usual.

Fallguy

1.) 08 Jun 2025 13:13:16
I would take a view that if he prefers to play for Spurs than in the famous Red of United, with our history, then he can go to Spurs. Let’s see what he wants to do.


2.) 08 Jun 2025 13:58:50
He’s turned down Arsenal and Newcastle to choose us; can’t see him going to Spurs: Frank not even been appointed yet.


3.) 08 Jun 2025 20:52:30
Maybe a bit of briefing by Brentford to up the Mbeumo fee.


4.) 09 Jun 2025 07:28:57
Whilst I hope he comes to us, at to laugh at the remark if he chooses spurs over us with our history…. l. l. Seriously you said that with a straight face then next minute your ranting about the last 10-15 years of history under the Glazers and the S*** show that’s been going on for as long and expect an overseas player to look back at when we used to win things……modern history like last season spurs won more then us! Absolutely ridiculous statement you made.


5.) 09 Jun 2025 19:57:04
Jeez German just mix it up a little bit. Not every message needs to be a polemic.


6.) 10 Jun 2025 08:49:05
Mbeumo would be about as perfect a signing as we could make this summer, personally I think he suits us better than Cunha (although I still think Cunha is a great signing) .

However, if he moves elsewhere then so be it. Either he wants to join us or he doesn't. What we need more than great players is players with the right attitude who want to be here with us and succeed with us.


7.) 10 Jun 2025 17:55:39
German

If that was aimed at me, I recall we could sign good players in the seventies and eighties before SAF. The red shirt means something even when we are in the doldrums. Yes our history.


8.) 10 Jun 2025 19:37:40
Yes we could and maybe you could remind me of what we won then and also good players don’t cut it no more United need great players to get back anywhere near the top, the EPL is full of good players as is the championship, it’s great players that make a difference
We have most of a squad of good ish players…… that’s not good enough in 2025.


9.) 11 Jun 2025 19:47:27
Wallace, he turned down champions league football to choose you? lollllllllllllllllllllllllllll.


 

 

 

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29 Sep 2025 13:40:40
If we lose to Sunderland at the weekend, and let's face it, there's every chance we will lose. I honestly believe United will be in a serious danger of relegation.

Never thought that would happen in my lifetime.

Only chance of salvation is for somebody else to take control and get some life back into the players. These aren't relegation level players (on the whole, there are some poor ones) .

Fallguy

1.) 29 Sep 2025 13:51:07
I mentioned this the other day. Some will say it’s nonsense, it’s too early…. in reality it isn’t. We’ve had over 30 league games of evidence now and we r in relegation form. Talk of ratcliffe giving RA the full season, if he does that then we r bang in trouble.


2.) 29 Sep 2025 15:45:43
They will be no doubt but with the right person in charge they can be clear and challenging for a Europa spot.


3.) 29 Sep 2025 16:11:59
There are some decent players in squad, with the right manger decent CB pairing, probably Yoro and Deligt/ Heaven plus have to gamble the new keeper
Bruno in a number 10 or front 3 of Cunha/ Mbuemo/ Bruno with bringing in Sesko if any of them not performing, or Mount gives us plan A/ B
Cass/ Mainoo/ Ugarte must be able to shield Defence and create too.


4.) 29 Sep 2025 19:29:42
New coach should be playing something like this.

Lemmens

Maz
Yoro
De Ligt
Dalot (Dorgu is awful, could try Leon)

Ugarte/ Mainoo
Cas

Mbeumo
Bruno
Cunha

Sesko.


 

 

01 Sep 2025 13:03:25
Looks like just a backup keeper will be added today. He's young and untested, can't see him going straight into the team, especially as the first two games are City and Chelsea.

A midfielder (or two) is what was really needed. Lack of investment in that area is likely to cause more issues than goalkeeper.

Can't help thinking they should have only signed one new number 10 and spent in midfield instead.

Time will tell I guess.

Fallguy

1.) 01 Sep 2025 13:35:25
If he shows in training that he deserves it I think he starts.
Wouldn't be surprised if one of bayindir or onana moves on in next few days.
Turkey and Saudi windows still open.


2.) 01 Sep 2025 14:03:39
Im sure you'll find a negative fallguy.


3.) 01 Sep 2025 14:22:56
Tumble - Do you disagree that the lack of midfield additions is going to hurt us then?


4.) 01 Sep 2025 19:08:06
Fallguy

We have plenty of players to play there. Ugarte cost us 55 mill last year and everyone wanted him. Mainoo is a great talent and sinful we are not developing him properly and he is being shoe horned into something he is not.

This has been an outstanding window imo.


 

 

20 Jun 2025 13:42:08
How on earth are Liverpool selling Jarell Quansah to Leverkusen for £34 million?

How have they managed to get them to pay that much? Unless there are some shady shenanigans around the Wirtz deal to get Liverpool to pay more for him.

Fallguy

1.) 20 Jun 2025 14:51:43
It doesn't matter. Maybe EtH thinks he is Dutch.


2.) 20 Jun 2025 15:15:55
They also managed to agree a deal for Kerkez while Wirtz was being weighed. Meanwhile Berrada was starting up Microsoft Outlook to send an email haggling over 50p for Mbeumo.


3.) 20 Jun 2025 15:45:05
Liverpool are going to take some catching, they walked the league last year and they’re adding some serious talent to the squad.


4.) 20 Jun 2025 16:02:37
Doing what we should have done on Fergie last year's. Buy quality when you are in a dominant position.


5.) 20 Jun 2025 18:45:03
Quansah for anything over £15m is a joke. I suspect this was arranged as part of the Wirtz deal to prevent Bayern from being able to match the bid. Pool pay an extra £30m and then Levurkusen send it right back to them once all of the paperwork has been rubber stamped.


6.) 20 Jun 2025 23:02:31
And we paid how much for the slab head in 2019?


7.) 21 Jun 2025 04:04:04
Agree with redseven. This is just both the clubs scratching each other's backs to make life easier wrt PSR.


 

 

20 Jun 2025 07:10:22
Reports that Garnacho only wants to move to another premier league club.

Thoughts on that guys?

Personally, I don't want him to go. Think there's a good player in there, he's still very young. But it looks like that ship has sailed and RA wants him gone.

It would really annoy me to see him sold to a Chelsea, Villa or spurs etc and then see him develop into a really good player. Especially if we sell him for peanuts like we usually do with young players.

Based on the market prices right now, he should be at least £60m. +.

Fallguy

1.) 20 Jun 2025 07:18:11
He's toxic and has a bad attitude. All reports appear to suggest he is the source of leaks from the dressing room. Can't have that. Plus some of his tweets etc call his attitude into question.


2.) 20 Jun 2025 07:46:14
For Garnacho to stay we need to transfer his brother to another club.


3.) 20 Jun 2025 07:59:15
Sell him and buy someone better. What's the problem?


4.) 20 Jun 2025 08:35:32
Get rid couldn't give a toss what he did elsewhere. No fear of that at all.


5.) 20 Jun 2025 09:20:16
Garnachi has ability and potential but also the attitude of a player that has already achieved things in his career. I am certain he will go on to have a good career if he chooses his next team well.

Unfortunately I do not thing that is us, just not what we need at the minute for the positions we have and definitely not the attitude for the team reset.


6.) 20 Jun 2025 10:43:46
Get rid . Too many teeth.


7.) 20 Jun 2025 11:21:24
The Utd fanbase need a player to loathe at any given moment, and it's Garnacho's turn. A few ill-advised comments along the way but I don't hate him for them, he wouldn't be the first player in history to feed loaded comments to the press to instigate a move.

Personally I think he's a good player, who has shown the potential to be excellent on his day, scoring a few worldies in the process, but hasn't shown it enough in recent times. Think he'd still be a decent option but we need an upgrade in all attacking positions and he's an asset we can use to achieve that.


8.) 20 Jun 2025 11:59:44
I don't hate him either. I don't hate anybody particularly a footballer I don't know. But I don't want him playing for my team. Nor does the manager. It's nothing to do with united fans wanting someone to hate its much more about the manager not wanting him. He will have his reasons.
I doubt amorim hates him either.


9.) 20 Jun 2025 13:31:25
The issue with the 'fear' of watching Garnacho flourish for another EPL club is one of the reasons we are where we are with our options up front.

This 'fear' is akin to the fear that Joel Glazer had of watching a player he thought was like Pele flourish elsewhere, but when Martial still looked pants at Sevilla it proved that his 'fear' was a ridiculous reason to keep a player who wasn't the type (whether it be ability or attitude) who suited the trajectory of the club. That Martial fear affected the club's ability to improve the forwards department because Joel invested more money and more time into a player who just wasn't ticking the boxes.

If Garnacho were to join another EPL club, I'd be pleased for him because there is definitely a player there, but there's also that absurd ego and that very poor attitude when his application is rightly questioned.

The 4-3-3 system suits Garnacho and I do fully believe he is so convinced that he's already the big I am that he considers extra effort to adapt to be beneath him - let him go to Chelsea or Villa and let him learn that he's not the world-class finished product he believes he is.

In an ideal world, I'd like him to stay to see how he develops, but the baggage he's already dragging through these early stages of his career makes him look like a disruptor, and we can no longer afford to accommodate disruptors in the camp when everything needs to be aligned correctly if we are to have any real hope of getting back up to the upper zone of that table.

Garnacho, Sancho and Rashford are three disruptors we need to be rid of - I'll be gutted if even one remains.
The mere idea of Rashford or Sancho training with U-21s would be a fraught disaster because they'd each try to 'punish' the club by looking to rub whatever toxic salt into the wounds by influencing youngsters - it would be a firm f*** no from me.

Just get rid of them, I'm tired of hearing their pathetic s***!


10.) 20 Jun 2025 13:48:17
Exactly Ork.


11.) 20 Jun 2025 18:01:01
Just get rid, who cares what he does elsewhere, he not doing it for us, RA don’t want him, so say good luck and goodbye.

{Ed077's Note - where is the line of PL clubs knocking on the door to sign him though? ?


 

 

04 Jun 2025 10:57:46
Seems United have started the ball rolling on the Mbeumo transfer.

Will likely cost £60m+.

Cunha and Mbeumo behind a number 9 looks very good on paper. Assuming the number 9 isn't Rasmus.

Getting there. If they can get somebody decent up top, should be good.

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1.) 04 Jun 2025 11:13:53
I just wonder where gyokeres is going. he seems ideal for arsenal at this moment in time but yet they have turned their attention to Sesko.

The optimist in me is telling me that gyokeres has already agreed to go somewhere else ?.


2.) 04 Jun 2025 14:11:28
Be ideal for us angel you'd think. I am also the eternal optimist when it comes to united. So we can hope imgur we hear anything different.
Outgoings need to pick up pace or we can't move for him.
Rash sancho Anthony and garnacho out asap.
We have 2 vacant positions in the team imo in cm and gk. Striker we at least have some more options assuming mbeumo and cunha. But ideally get in a new striker and shift rasmus. Shift cas and get a cm. And shift onana get a keeper. Cb is an area of concern too I'd imagine. Maybe the loan market will turn someone up.
I've seen Douglas Luiz linked with a loan move I'd like that.


3.) 04 Jun 2025 14:13:01
Although, it’s being reported United are going to pay him 5 times his current weekly salary.

If true, that’s crazy. Have they not learnt the lessons from before in overpaying players salaries.


4.) 04 Jun 2025 14:14:06
Agreed Angelred. feels like we are more in the running as time goes on than we were previously.

Would be a great start to the window if we could have those 3 in. then start getting some sales out the door ahead of the second phase of the window to target that midfielder we need.


5.) 04 Jun 2025 14:22:51
I think CB is an area of concern too. But I think it's much more important that we look at GK, CM and ST.

Obviously outgoings is paramount as it leaves RA without that headache. He doesn't want to be going into a new pre season looking at Rash, Antony, Sancho, Garnacho. Although at least Antony seems to have some sort of work ethic and wouldn't cause any issues.

At CB, we have Yoro, De Ligt, Heaven, Maguire, Maz, Shaw and Martinez coming back. For me if we weren't to strengthen there, I wouldn't be going mad over it as the other areas should be of greater importance.

But yes outgoings need to get gone quick.


6.) 04 Jun 2025 15:08:32
I would go for Mateta, with Cunha and Mbumbo that be a good front 3.
Just not convinced by Gyokores why is no one busting a gut to get him, people look then seem to back away and be fair before Amorim arrived who even considered him!


7.) 04 Jun 2025 15:17:08
I'm feeling very dirty, as I find myself agreeing with German. Scoring in Portugal is no guarantee you can translate that to the EPL.


8.) 04 Jun 2025 17:18:40
Perhaps nobody else is in for him because he has told them that he’s not interested. Maybe he’s agreed to move somewhere already, or has committed to stay in Portugal for another season?


9.) 04 Jun 2025 17:26:03
No guarantee transferring your from anywhere.
Ronaldo did OK as did bruno and Silva. there are very few guarantees with anyone. But for every did from Portugal you can make a success.


10.) 04 Jun 2025 19:54:05
56 in 53. That's not just scoring in a different country, they are astounding numbers. Also his European numbers are top.


11.) 04 Jun 2025 22:06:58
We’ve done ok with players we’ve brought from sporting no?


12.) 04 Jun 2025 23:29:30
German i think we'd have 'no worries' if we had a Cunha Mateta.


13.) 05 Jun 2025 08:44:57
We would lose Mbeumo to ACON for a month at the end of the year, so I'm sure there'd be plenty of scope to see Bruno/ Mount/ Amad/ Zirkzee et al.


 

 

 

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28 Aug 2025 20:40:35
Donnarumma isn’t the answer in my opinion. I don’t think he’s any better at crosses into the box. Although he is a better shop stopper. But he will want a ridiculous salary.

I’d look at Costa from Porto. Or just go and get Emi Martinez.

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28 Aug 2025 17:56:19
You’re putting a lot of faith in a young, untested keeper. No guarantee he’s any good or ready to be first choice.

There are some videos around of good saves he's made. But have a look for the videos on his mistakes. In some clips he looks no better than Onana.

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25 Aug 2025 12:23:36
Don’t blame him. Clearly not getting a game anytime soon under RA.

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15 Aug 2025 13:04:17
Press saying this morning that the backup plan is the danish guy from Sporting. Who knows.

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15 Aug 2025 07:54:09
I also can’t see that being true.

If for some reason this is true, I already feel bad for Baleba. He would be joining a great club but with the amount of press United get, he would need to score a hatrick every game for the press to not constantly run stories saying £100m flop!

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01 Oct 2025 08:54:01
I’d love to see Eddie Howe get the job.

Love how Newcastle play. He’s got every player fighting for every ball, the players seem to love him, and he seems to improve players. And he knows the prem.

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29 Sep 2025 19:29:42
New coach should be playing something like this.

Lemmens

Maz
Yoro
De Ligt
Dalot (Dorgu is awful, could try Leon)

Ugarte/ Mainoo
Cas

Mbeumo
Bruno
Cunha

Sesko.

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15 Sep 2025 15:48:25
You mean beating teams like Fulham? Which we didn’t.

Barely managed to beat Burnley this season.

And lost to Grimsby with a pretty much full strength team out.

I get your point on games against Arsenal and city. But surely we can all agree that we should be beating Grimsby?

And that’s all before we start looking at last seasons results. RA has managed 31 premier league games and managed just 31 points. He has the team in relegation form. That’s getting close to a full season of league games and he’s still not managed back to back wins. Still not managed to get a positive goal difference. Still not managed to get this system working.

He has managed to put our most threatening attacking threat in Bruno in a position on the pitch where he can’t play and nullified his attacking talent. He’s the most creative number 10 in the league, but RA has decided to play him in centre mid.

When the team is losing and chasing an equaliser (which is in many, many games), the subs made by RA are often to replace defensive players. Make it make sense.

I’d love RA to be a success. But let’s be honest and realistic - he’s not going to be. If after a year of being in charge it’s only got worse, what makes you think it’s suddenly going to get better now?

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14 Sep 2025 20:52:34
He has to go. And I think he will. Just not for another few games. United will lose to Chelsea, draw away at Brentford and maybe win against Sunderland. Then it’s an international break. He might survive that one.

There’s a very good chance he won’t win any games after that and before the next international break. With Liverpool, Brighton, Forest and spurs.

So my guess would be that he’s let go around November 10th.

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14 Sep 2025 20:48:55
Eddie Howe is my first choice. He will get the most out of the players. He has history of improving players.

Have to change to a 4-3-2-1.

Keeper

Maz
Yoro
De Ligt
Dorgu

Cas
Mainoo
Bruno

Mbeumo
Sesko
Cunha

Still think mid table is the most any new boss could achieve this season. The board will leave getting rid of RA too late.

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