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27 Jun 2024 06:56:26
Read this morning that Maguire is set to be offered an extended contract.
Crazy decision if true.
1.) 27 Jun 2024 08:52:34
It has felt for sometime that one of Maguire or Lindelof might stay and based on the past season Maguire is probably the more likely with Lindelof gaining some interest on the market.
Extending for a year does maintain his value for future sale and could indicate that we may struggle to bring in 2 new CB's along with everyting else.
Reality is that he would be 3rd/ 4th choice, get games in the cup competitions
The rebuild is going to take a number of windows so we may have to accept some players remaining who we would normally want to move on.
2.) 27 Jun 2024 10:50:01
While we would like to see at least 2 CB's join this summer, the reality is that we might only be able to afford 1.
Which means we have to keep at least one of Lindelof or Maguire.
On last season's form, as well as keeping an eye on homegrown players in our squad Maguire might be the better option to keep.
It might be a case of the club activating the one year option taking him to 2026, meaning he could still potentially be sold next summer. Or the club might look to a 2 or 3 year extension instead, which might be on more favourable terms for the club.
If they activate the extension then I believe that the club needs to agree something with Maguire for any fee received next summer.
So it might be better to give him a new two year contract with an optional 3rd year, taking him to 2026 (2027 if the optional year is taken up) . Meaning his contract effectively would be the same length as it is now, maybe on better terms for the club, but all the transfer fee the club could get for him next summer would go to the club and all counts as profit.
This is most likely just the club trying to be sensible with finances and juggle the books to improve profitability.
3.) 27 Jun 2024 12:42:46
Thought it was just his optional 1 year being triggered as his contract is up next summer.
4.) 27 Jun 2024 13:17:17
Shappy a new deal for Maguire would be a terrible idea his inability to trust himself and defend high means we have to change the way we play to suit him or accept the massive holes in midfield we had last year.
And when we adapt to him we are so deep we can't press, he can be a passable defender like last year just not for the style we want to play he drops deep too early worried about people getting in behind because he can't anticipate quickly enough or get back quick enough.
We should sell him this year keep lindelof as 4th choice and as it's a lower wage and he's gone for free next year but that still means we need 2 defenders minimum Evans and Kambwala should be looked at as last resorts.
5.) 27 Jun 2024 23:31:07
Dbrooks, I don't want Maguire to stay, I was one of the first on here to say I didn't want him a whole year before we signed him. I never thought he was good enough.
However, the reality of the situation that has to be considered. Branthwaite will cost 60m plus, anyone is a similar standard will also be about the same price (Inacio, Yoro, Antonio Silva etc) . The only high quality CB available at a reasonable price was Todibo, but UEFA have put the kibosh on that happening.
Which means we will either have to accept paying 60m+ for a top level or potentially top level CB. Or we will have to accept buying a lesser quality player.
A Chalobah or a Kilman type player who should be available for 35-45m.
The problem is that level of player doesn't really improve us, certainly not significantly.
So if we want top quality signings at CB we will have to pay the higher prices.
But we don't really have the funds, we have PSR breathing down our necks, and we have to sell to buy. The problem with that is we have few players clubs want to buy, and the few weeks do are only of interest to clubs with their own financial issues meaning they can't afford to pay us high prices. So we might be forced into selling players below market value in order to raise any funds.
Given the fact we also need a CM and a ST, as well as a CB, a second CB and midfielder seems highly unlikely. Especially if we have to dip into the fullback market to replace one of ours that could leave this summer.
I think our plans to sign two CB's this summer relied on getting Branthwaite for less than 50m and cutting a deal for 35-40m with Nice for Todibo. Bringing in two quality CB's for 75-80m.
The reality looks like Branthwaite will cost close to that much alone (60-70m), while Todibo has been blocked. With alternatives either going to be a level below or 10-20m more than Todibo was going to cost.
Meaning two CB's this summer is likely to cost us north of 110m. Which would use up any budget for either a midfielder or a striker this summer.
So I'd imagine we'll see one CB, one CM, a ST with maybe either a fullback, midfielder or a cheaper (lower quality) CB for a squad rotation role. Depending on departures and how much we raise through sales.
6.) 28 Jun 2024 03:41:49
Activating Maguire’s 1 year extension doesn’t make any sense. No club currently would be willing to match or get close to his current £10m/ year salary so why would they do so in a years time? United wouldn’t even get the transfer fee unless it came to an agreement with Maguire. A new 2-3 year contract on lower terms makes sense from a club point of view but don’t see why Maguire would want that. A 2 year £7m/ year contract is £14m for him. Or he can bank £10m this year, leave for free and get a nice signing on bonus and probably get £5/ 6m/ year from a club somewhere.
Realistically United should either sell now or just let him leave for free at the end of his contract. Agreeing an extension on similar terms (which I imagine he’d only accept) just prolongs the pain for United financially.
7.) 28 Jun 2024 09:07:46
Fuser, that might ultimately end up being the case. The news is that the club are entering negotiations over a possible new deal. If Maguire isn't prepared to accept what the club are willing to give then he leaves either this summer or next. The alternative is that he agrees a deal with the club that is better for the club.
It won't be a case of him dictating to the club what he wants the the club just bending over and accepting it.
It's a negotiation, if it doesn't suit the club then I expect they'll walk away from them.
8.) 28 Jun 2024 11:44:21
He can't play a high line. It changes the team dynamic too much. Maguire is a very good player he's just far more suited to a team that plays counter attacking football with a lower block. Teams figured out how to set pressing traps for him as he likes to move out the line and challenge for the ball, this creates a space in behind for a player to run into, if the player being pressed can move the ball quickly out wide there's a gap for the player to thread a ball through to the runner.
Also the reason Maguire looks for England is that the team plays a lower block and there less space between midfield and defence for Maguire to have this pressing trap set for him. Mourinho type footy would suit him down to the ground.
9.) 28 Jun 2024 14:40:09
He is miles below the standard required imo.
10.) 28 Jun 2024 19:58:15
Ken he is, I don't think any contract extension would be based on his long term future with the club, but about the club navigating the absolute mess they find themselves in.
The reality is if we got rid of every player not good enough this summer then we would be lucky to be able to field a five-a-side team next season.
We will have to keep some players who aren't good enough. Hell we'll probably have to give significant minutes to many who aren't.
This isn't a quick fix and there will be tough decisions made, not all of them the fans will agree with. Just part of the course for digging us out of this mess.
11.) 30 Jun 2024 11:17:49
I think some of the criticism of Mcguire is over the top. He was very solid last year and having lost varrane you need some senior players in any squad. We are not buying 3 CB's and will need the likes of Maguire and lindelof in the squad. Not sure if Evans is coming back.
01 Sep 2023 13:29:27
Amrabat deal now agreed apparently.
1.) 01 Sep 2023 13:45:05
When asked about more deals, ETH said “Potentially yes, but we have to be realistic “.
What a tease :)
2.) 01 Sep 2023 13:47:57
Great news that. Hopefully be the fix we need in the middle of the park. Going to be an interesting 10 hours to see if we have anyone else come in or go out the door.
3.) 01 Sep 2023 13:49:13
Bruno Fernandez
Mason Mount
Kobbie Mainoo
Sofyan Amrabat
Scott McTominay
Christian Eriksen
Casemiro
Hannibal Mejbri
Midfield options for the season.
4.) 01 Sep 2023 14:25:31
Happy there is a new midfielder, have to wait and see how he looks in the premier league.
Amazed another striker hasn’t really been linked or looked at from what’s been said over the last few days. We need goals or at least good options to play up top.
5.) 01 Sep 2023 14:27:48
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6.) 01 Sep 2023 14:43:55
Just watching eth pregame interview. he looked delighted about ambrabat. did not confirm it but giggled like a little boy lol.
7.) 01 Sep 2023 16:00:48
Interesting that it's a loan with a €10 loan fee with a buy option for €25m next summer.
Now it's said this is to stay within FFP, but then the manager has hinted that the club may look to try and do another deal. Also it's said it's a buy OPTION not an obligation.
I'm not sure that Amrabat is the player they really wanted, but more likely the best they felt they could get given the restrictions they were working with.
Unless he's a massive success I wouldn't be surprised if we don't sign him permanently next summer.
This deal has felt all summer long like it was being lined up as a just in case deal. The club spoke with his agent then placed this deal on the back burner, only speaking to his club 72 hours before the window slammed shut.
They also didn't look to do this deal until they had signed the back up keeper and the emergency replacement LB. Further highlighting the lack of drive or urgency to get this deal across the line.
I'm glad he's here, we needed reinforcements. I'm slightly skeptical about whether he is good enough, he has the right skillset, but can he consistently put in top level performances that you need to play for a top side. I'm not so convinced. But let's wait and see.
8.) 01 Sep 2023 16:45:01
I’m also glad it’s done, he’s probably not a world beater but he’ll do a job and from what little I’ve seen he will at least put a lot of effort in which is half the battle.
However, the lack of goals in the team if a real issue. Left back loan should have been put on hold until they found someone who can score some goals. Need a striker, can’t rely on a new kid who’s still learning.
9.) 01 Sep 2023 16:31:17
I saw on the Liverpool page about a week ago ed002 mentioned we were looking to sign ezequiel palacios from leverkusen but it would be for next summer when casemiro potentially will go to a Saudi club, is this still the plan Ed?
{Ed002's Note - They would like that.}
10.) 01 Sep 2023 16:57:58
Fallguy,
How do you know we can’t rely on him? We have paid a lot of money for him, the club obviously think he’s good enough, so fingers crossed they are right.
11.) 01 Sep 2023 17:09:44
Let’s hope Ten did not want Amrabat then, because ones he did want and signed not exactly pulled up any trees.
Before people say Cas TBF he wanted DeJong and wasted a whole summer on him, not really want Cas and Cas was best player last year.
He wanted Antony and got Antony, not setting the world on fire
Ten picked Carthorse, he was good! ok some will say he was a loan, yes he was but there were others around I’m sure that could have been loaned who could actually score.
He wanted Mount, we don’t know yet where he going to play! So we have to wait on that one.
I’m not overly excited with Tens purchases as I’m not with the team as a whole, because I don’t see it as good enough to win a league, I’m confused in what we are looking for if I’m honest, maybe just happy if we can secure top 4 plus did not want Ronaldo, because he did not press, fair enough, but next breath Ten says Martial is good at press! Then get Carthorse TBF could press, but could not score! Now we appear this season to sort of half press…Individually, we are now in 2nd season and is there a style we can be sure we are actually seeing or at least an end goal, we got two wide players in Rashford and Antony, not really going to supply lots of ammunition for the new forward, so yes I am a little perplexed to say the least, one thing for sure we spending lots of money assembling this.
12.) 01 Sep 2023 17:10:37
I don’t know we can’t rely on him to score goals, but it’s an awful big gamble only having one striker for the season. (Can’t count martial as a striker, well not a good one anyway)
I really do hope he hits the ground running and is a superstar, fingers crossed.
13.) 01 Sep 2023 17:45:49
Hojlund might not score bags of goals by himself this season, I don’t think any of us are expecting him to, but I reckon he will change our style of play enough and give defenders real problems in the box that it will create space and open up chances for our other forwards. I’m not sure we need another striker, if Rashford can push on from last season, and Antony can build from what I see personally as a positive start and contribute more, add Bruno who is always good for 15+ goals, and then Hojlund maybe 10-15 goals himself, I think we will be absolutely fine in attack this year.
14.) 01 Sep 2023 18:15:14
JE888, my thoughts exactly.
15.) 01 Sep 2023 18:30:28
Martial is also still in the squad, as much as people don’t like him (I don’t either) you can’t just ignore him so he’s the back up striker.
Looking forward to the window being closed so we can just get on with it, the squad is looking good, some good options off the bench as well so let’s hope we can find some form like we did last season.
16.) 01 Sep 2023 19:04:00
Don't forget amad will be coming back as well, I'm sure he can play and has played centrally in attack plus he gives another option out wide right.
17.) 01 Sep 2023 19:42:27
ezequiel palacios?
Anyone seen him play and any good? googled him and he plays for leverkusen, can't remember personally if i have watched him. I guess will be watching some leverkusen games this year:)
18.) 01 Sep 2023 21:00:07
Oh ok Chris of course I answer to you. So all the people who don’t think we are looking that great should disappear of the site, wow it be good then won’t it, like when everyone said Ole at the wheel will all be fine then you all turned round and woke up!
19.) 01 Sep 2023 21:45:27
Ahh Ole wonder what he is up these days.
20.) 01 Sep 2023 22:34:52
It’s Maze, I’m now sure of it.
21.) 01 Sep 2023 22:52:12
I think Trafford is just doing this for effect and click bait lol, no way any supporter can be this negative or think this way off our players.
22.) 01 Sep 2023 23:15:46
I stand by what I said last night Ahmad, he’s not a United fan. I think a rival fan coming here to troll and spread negativity. I agree no United fan talks about our players like he does.
23.) 02 Sep 2023 09:35:28
Regarding Hojlund, people shouldn't expect him to score a ton of goals, I don't think that's why he was targeted.
I believe he was brought in because he can do the job Weghorst did, making life, but better, and while also scoring a respectable number of goals. He isn't a pure goalscorer, which is why comparisons to Haland are so annoying. Instead, he's a forward who will Make life difficult for defenders, force mistakes and create openings for other attacking players.
However, he's no Weghorst or Heskey, he will score a decent number of goals too. Just don't expect him to be leading the race for the golden boot.
With Rashford, Sancho, Martial and maybe even Antony or Bruno offering cover/ rotation options, I'm not as concerned as some of you seem to be. We'll need another striker in the future, hopefully as a replacement for Martial, but for now I think we're ok.
24.) 02 Sep 2023 09:02:49
We shouldn’t be accusing posters of not being United fans or being a troll because they have a different opinion. Argue your own opinion and Trafford has his own. Personally I can see Traffords point.
When I said Moyes was a disaster people on here were telling me what to post. Ole people on here couldn’t see it and told me what to post.
Personally I am not convinced about our plan and what has been bought or not bought. We shall see but I suspect we will have a real fight to get top four, Villa could be a dark horse. Goals win matches, we hope the new striker can deliver. Defences win championships so I suspect we will be hoping for a cup.
25.) 02 Sep 2023 10:20:52
Red Man,
There is a difference between your succinct posts explaining your points and the rambling constant rants of somebody saying the same thing all the time with zero balance and everything negative, I think that’s the issue.
We can all see that everything isn’t amazing, there are players we could have bought better than the ones we have, we didn’t sign all of the exact players people want, but the whole teams isn’t useless, there are some promising signs. We haven’t played well so far but we have 2 wins from 3 but that’s not good enough because we ‘should have lost’, it’s just all very pessimistic and boring and if you post like that you’ve got to expect a bit of a response.
Nobody wants anybody to stop posting, far from it, this place is all about opinions, but if you come on and only post negative stuff like you’re a rival fan you’re going to get called out on it, always have and always will.
26.) 02 Sep 2023 15:24:51
Call me out all you like, but don’t accuse me of not being a fan of united, in fact tell me why else would I spend so much money at United game after game, and been doing so for past 5 years and previous to that season ticket holder for 20 years and then was only able to get to max 6-8 games a season…. sorry i am not head over heels with this team as you are. Only seems about opinions if they match yours, that’s the problem, if your happy with the team great, no problem to me at all, but you seem fixated with me, clearly same as you are about someone called Maze you harp on about. Like I said help is available.
27.) 02 Sep 2023 15:43:57
It's often suggested that managers should be given three years. Enough time to rebuild the team in their vision, and to see the fruits of that labour. I think by the end of his first season, mentality and workrate has clearly improved. Style isn't quite there, in fact I can't remember the last time Utd were completely enjoyable to watch (even in Fergie's last season we were flat) we're not playing great and not killing teams off, but we won a few things.
I reckon by the end of season 2 on the playing front Erik will have added 12+ players in total and cleared out a fair few of the so-called dead-wood / bad eggs. Give it until next summer and I'm certain we can include McT / Maguire / Martial in the departed list (maybe even Jan), and hopefully we'll have won something else and be looking at some really strong reinforcements as we'll need to replace those three too.
28.) 02 Sep 2023 21:22:14
That's a fair summary Spenno,
Massively important that we finish in UCL places so we can keep the rebuild going. Even better if we can shift these Glazers.
31 Aug 2023 16:54:01
Looks like Cucurella deal could be off. United want to option to end loan in January, Chelsea don't. United are now looking at Reguilon from Spurs.
Above is from Fabrizio Romano just now.
Personally I'd rather stick with what we've got than Reguilon. He can't even get close to the spurs team. A big no from me.
1.) 31 Aug 2023 17:09:59
Agreed. It’s a little embarrassing that we’re now being linked with two Spurs cast offs.
2.) 31 Aug 2023 17:25:36
Many players go to Spurs and don't keep their form going. Maybe that's a Spurs issue. We can only judge him on his performances at this club.
3.) 31 Aug 2023 17:29:09
If it means Reguilon is coming in because we also have the flexibility to get Amrabat too, I'm fine with that. Reguilon and Amrabat is much better than Cucurella on his own.
4.) 31 Aug 2023 17:32:44
The arrogance of this club is so frequently astonishing.
They know a player can't appear for 3 clubs in a season, something Chelsea were also aware of - hence the appearance against AFC Wimbledon.
They don't yet know whether or not Shaw will return and hit the ground running, irrespective of when he returns.
The very same applies to Malacia.
They clearly lack the faith in Fernandez.
Yet somehow, there's an absolute moron in a suit somewhere who thinks United are in any position of strength when negotiating what is essentially an unanticipated transfer dictated simply by dire need with little time.
Yet another glaring example of just how thoroughly incompetent some people at the club are.
5.) 31 Aug 2023 17:39:28
Agreed. Ignoring everything else, I find it pretty wild that we expected the lad to just up sticks and move his family to Manchester just for four months of football and seemingly no chance of a permanent move. It’s little wonder that he said no.
6.) 31 Aug 2023 17:54:03
Reguilon is poor. Dalot will be first choice LB until Shaw returns, whereas Cucurella would have walked into our side. Depressing.
7.) 31 Aug 2023 18:14:38
If Reguilon is fit, he will play.
Spurs is pretty stocked in that position. Idogie, Perisic and Sessegnon.
8.) 31 Aug 2023 18:54:38
Reguilon has been disappointing for Spurs but he was scouted for Utd before signing for them.
Give the lad a chance.
9.) 31 Aug 2023 19:25:26
Underwhelming to say the least. Cucurella showed talent within our league reguilon has bern average at best. Altho seeing jaime redknap quizzing keane over it might be worth it after what keane said a while back.
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22 Jul 2024 18:58:16
Seen a couple of stories today on United looking at new right backs. The two names mentioned were Vanderson from Monaco and Mazraoui from Bayern, another ex Ajax player being linked. That's got to be close to being the full Ajax team from ETH's days that have been linked at one point or another. Probably just lazy journalism.
1.) 23 Jul 2024 08:11:23
To be fair, that was a cracking Ajax team packed full of young talent, I'd be amazed if we weren't linked with a few of them, regardless of who the manager was.
21 Jun 2024 20:35:44
Reports that Chelsea have walked away from the Olise deal.
United still keen. But Newcastle and Bayern seem slightly more interested.
Olise has been linked to United for months. But I don't see United going for him. A new RW seems far down the list of requirements.
Of course, if United revert to type, expect a deadline day offer of way more than he's worth.
1.) 21 Jun 2024 20:48:58
Off to Bayern. Not the worst outcome.
2.) 21 Jun 2024 21:28:28
Unfortunately we have too many other priorities this off season. Would have been brilliant addition but we need to be sensible and focus our attentions on CB/ HM/ St.
3.) 21 Jun 2024 22:38:31
Looks like Amad be more regular next seaoan. CB, CM and striker is more of a priority.
4.) 21 Jun 2024 22:52:56
Wingers we aren't short of, Garnacho, Amad, a rested Rashford and hopefully Antony has spent the summer getting aqauinted with his right foot, throw in a few of the promising academy players and spend the cash on a CB, DM and ST.
5.) 21 Jun 2024 23:22:13
I think if we had shipped out Sancho and Greenwood by now, we would have gone in, but that hasn't materialised yet.
6.) 22 Jun 2024 14:55:47
Maybe so. Based solely off the main links so far it does appear as though the club are prioritising a CF option more than a wide player ATM. As others said it could be that Amad is earmarked for a more prominent role next year, and that Antony hasn't been written off yet!
7.) 22 Jun 2024 16:28:39
DonRed, Which makes sense when you think about it. Even after selling Greenwood, Sancho and most likely Pellistri.
We would still have Rashford, Garnacho, Amad, and Antony (who we won't be able to shift) . While Mount and Bruno are more than capable playing wide if needed.
Then in the academy we have some very talented young wide players.
As opposed to having Hojlund as the only special-ist striker at the club. While he is also young and needs to be rotated in and out of the line up while he develops.
Other than that we either have to play Rashford through the middle (which he isn't great at), play Bruno as a false 9 (something that is really a niche tactic), or play Ethan Wheatley (who himself is a youngster with limited experience) .
We are in far greater need for a central striker than a winger this summer.
While Joshua Zirkzee makes a lot of sense. He's a top player available or a below market value fee. He also has a really interesting and different profile to Hojlund. Meaning its not like doubling up and having two similar young players fighting it out for the same position/ role. We would have two young and talented strikers with contrasting and complementary skillsets. which means we can swap them in and out of the line up to suit specific tactics, or to try and change things up a little. Or we could even play them together as a strike partnership in some games.
He'd offer a load of versatility without blocking Hojlund.
Both Zirkzee and Olise were/ are available for below their market values due to clauses in their contracts, both are excellent players. But if we can only sign one of them, well Zirkzee makes much more sense.
8.) 22 Jun 2024 17:07:02
Agree with you Shappy. We can't solve everything in one window and the higher priority must be CF options. Otherwise we're facing next season with one senior striker who himself is very young.
9.) 25 Jun 2024 22:38:02
Does not matter one jot how many strikers we have if we don’t give them service.
I fear we will still have a much maligned Rashford and the one footed show pony which limits our wide stock.
28 Aug 2023 12:35:54
Apparently United have rejected West Ham's approach over the weekend for Maguire. Report says United have no intention of selling him and want to keep him.
If that's true then god help us all.
1.) 28 Aug 2023 13:28:43
TBF, although I don’t like him and he a cart horse, he does always give 100% so for the 20 odd million they will recoup, decent 4th/ 5th choice, so personally unless you can clear 3o million little point in selling him. Especially if taking a gamble on signing an unproven no experience CB, for 40 million plus let’s be fair Evans good days are long long gone. Money better spent adding some goals to the team.
2.) 28 Aug 2023 13:31:09
It'll be loan deal rebuffed.
3.) 28 Aug 2023 13:43:22
I see this as making sense.
The reason for United's problems regarding making signings ATM is the FFP conundrum.
A loan for Maguire will not be helpful at this stage because, with the injury and fitness concerns of Shaw, Varane and Martinez, we will be another CB short with no real prospect of addressing the issue.
So we'd be one CB short when 3 of our 4 best CBs may well have gremlins this season, we'd raise no funds for his replacement, and we'd still be paying a premium to shift him - a loan would be a ridiculous idea.
That said, in light of Maguire's irritating but perfectly understandable stance, we cannot sell him either. West Ham will not pay him more than £120k per week and Maguire wants his current £200k per week wage to be honoured by United - over £8m.
He's holding all the chips unfortunately and United are just stuck in the cesspit they waded into.
4.) 28 Aug 2023 13:57:54
Spot on Ork.
I predicted it would come down to this and that we would haggle over a few million. We will come to regret this for footballing reasons, but it is the Glazer way sadly.
Loan deal only makes sense for WHU and Maguire. It would only make sense for us if we were well stocked at CB or had funds for his replacement.
We don't.
5.) 28 Aug 2023 14:37:00
Great Post ork. Summed up perfectly.
6.) 28 Aug 2023 14:49:40
We only have to wait a few days relax and when the window closes we will all know .
7.) 28 Aug 2023 16:42:02
HM
Very happy to warm the subs seats and pocket 200k a week. The truth is that, His dad is GS and will never drop him unless England replace him as Manager.
Im quite sure! That if he was told "you don't play every week in the EPL then we can't gige you a number for the upcoming matches and tournament", Harry would still pocket the wages and be happy.
Whats your opinions on this Guys? If Harry Maguire warms the bench and looses his England shirt, Whilst England march on and win the cup
Would Harry get roasted and be salty.
8.) 28 Aug 2023 17:43:00
Unburdened,
I’ve no idea what get roasted and be salty means but I couldn’t really care less what Maguire does. I think Colwill will replace him for England either way.
9.) 28 Aug 2023 21:01:17
I don't know if you've noticed but we are having a little bit of an injury crisis in defence.
Our current fit defensive options are AWB, Dalot, Alvaro Fernandez, Lindelof, and Martinez. Varane maybe be fit, but given his fitness issues, and that he came off at halftime against Forest, can he be relied upon?
While Maguire isn't good enough, we do need bodies to play. He'll be 4th choice at best behind Martinez, Varane and Lindelof, he could end up 6th choice behind Shaw and Evans.
The only reason to sell him is to raise funds to buy a better replacement. But at best we'll get 20m after paying him off his contract. Are we really going to get a great CB player for 20m? Probably not. So it might be of those situations where it doesn't actually make sense to sell him right now.
10.) 29 Aug 2023 09:03:02
Let him rot see how his career goes after not playing
Ego to match the size of his head.
17 Jul 2024 16:10:15
Just read what wages are on offer to Yoro. If true it’s madness.
I understand it’s not my money and I shouldn’t care.
But if the reports of £150k a week are true it’s complete and utter madness.
He’s 18 and untested, could be a world beater, could be Phil Jones. Who knows.
Again, if true, smacks of having to throw cash at someone who isn’t really that in to joining.
One hell of a gamble.
16 Jul 2024 07:52:46
Rumours now of United looking at Tah from Leverkusen. Reported to be the target of Bayern to replace MDL. I’m guessing this is all being done to push Bayern to agree to whatever uniteds demands are in fee and payment for MDL.
15 Jul 2024 11:25:26
Fair enough. Can’t see McT wanting to leave the Prem though. Would much rather they sold Cas, assuming Saudi are interested. Probably get a a higher fee and save much more in wages.
14 Jul 2024 08:55:54
Very little chance of Yoro joining in my opinion. He wants Real Madrid and at the very least he wants to be playing every week. Well that’s what’s being reported. Can’t see him joining United to be backup.
(But the report of him wanting playing time doesn’t stack up with wanting Madrid, he would be getting on the pitch that much there for a while) .
If it was down to me I’d stay clear of Yoro anyway. Bringing in players that aren’t really that interested in the move never works out well.
I’d also agree with the above, JB won’t be joining. Everton probably don’t need to sell and won’t budge on their crazy valuation. And does JB really want to join to be backup to Martinez? It was reported this week (could be nonsense) that United won’t go above £50m for any one player. So that would rule JB out.
I would imagine MDL might be the only addition this summer at CB. Which will likely mean Evans and Maguire starting a lot more games than anybody would like.
01 Jul 2024 19:48:14
Personally hope we stay well clear of De Ligt. Stinks of previous transfer windows and ETH going for players he knows.
He will be overpriced and on a fortune per week. Plus he seems to be injured more than Varane was.
18 Jul 2024 09:17:49
I’ve not seen anything as yet to make me think this season will be a lot different to last season.
At the moment, based on what players have come in and gone out I wouldn’t be surprised to see ETH under severe pressure or even gone around Xmas time.
Signing a new striker won’t solve the not scoring problem. You need to create chances for them in the first instance, that was the major issue last season.
We’ve only signed one new CB, an untested 18 year old. To play alongside Martinez who we hope stays fit. As soon as one of those two gets injured, suspended or loses form we are back to Maguire and Lindelof/ Evans.
And then we have decent no cover at left back for Shaw who can’t stay fit. Once he’s out the whole left side fails.
We still need new midfielders. Nobody to anchor the midfield, Cas can’t do it anymore. And you can’t play Mainoo for the entire season, he’s still very young and needs time off before he burns out. We can’t play the likes of McT in there if we want to challenge near the top.
Without a strong midfield and back line we will continue to give up 20+ chances each and every game.
This is all based on the transfer window as we are today. This could all dramatically change before the season starts.
But at the moment other than blind optimism I don’t see how the team’s performance will be that different to last season.
That’s my glass half empty view. If you’d prefer a glass half full perspective, then don’t worry guys, Rashford will be back in form, there won’t be many injuries and we will easily finish top 4.
15 Jul 2024 15:30:30
Agreed. Southgate will get a new contract and stay on for the World Cup I expect.
If it was me in charge at the FA I’d be going straight after Klopp.
30 Jun 2024 19:44:19
De Ligt is not the level of player we need. He’s pretty much failed everywhere since his time in Ajax. If you can get him for around 20m then he’d be ok as backup.
There’s a reason why Bayern don’t want him. And Juventus didn’t want him before that.
20 Jun 2024 22:17:39
On the plus side, this will be Southgate’s last tournament. Last time we will have to watch his overly cautious, sideways and backwards football.
17 Jun 2024 15:34:26
The reports on what Everton value Braithwaite at are ridiculous. He’s had one season in the prem for a struggling side and they want over £70m for him.
It’s all reports so could be inaccurate.
United of the past would spend all summer putting in low ball offers to then happily hand over £80m for him on transfer deadline day, I’m hoping the “new” United have wised up and walk away quickly, like Liverpool and city do when the price is too high.
Can’t afford to spend the entire transfer budget on one player. Must be better value out there somewhere.
{Ed002's Note - Manchester United know that Everton needs funds within the next two weeks and will make an improved offer.}