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01 Sep 2023 13:29:27
Amrabat deal now agreed apparently.

Fallguy

1.) 01 Sep 2023 13:45:05
When asked about more deals, ETH said “Potentially yes, but we have to be realistic “.
What a tease :)


2.) 01 Sep 2023 13:47:57
Great news that. Hopefully be the fix we need in the middle of the park. Going to be an interesting 10 hours to see if we have anyone else come in or go out the door.


3.) 01 Sep 2023 13:49:13
Bruno Fernandez
Mason Mount
Kobbie Mainoo
Sofyan Amrabat
Scott McTominay
Christian Eriksen
Casemiro
Hannibal Mejbri

Midfield options for the season.


4.) 01 Sep 2023 14:25:31
Happy there is a new midfielder, have to wait and see how he looks in the premier league.

Amazed another striker hasn’t really been linked or looked at from what’s been said over the last few days. We need goals or at least good options to play up top.


5.) 01 Sep 2023 14:27:48
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6.) 01 Sep 2023 14:43:55
Just watching eth pregame interview. he looked delighted about ambrabat. did not confirm it but giggled like a little boy lol.


7.) 01 Sep 2023 16:00:48
Interesting that it's a loan with a €10 loan fee with a buy option for €25m next summer.

Now it's said this is to stay within FFP, but then the manager has hinted that the club may look to try and do another deal. Also it's said it's a buy OPTION not an obligation.

I'm not sure that Amrabat is the player they really wanted, but more likely the best they felt they could get given the restrictions they were working with.

Unless he's a massive success I wouldn't be surprised if we don't sign him permanently next summer.

This deal has felt all summer long like it was being lined up as a just in case deal. The club spoke with his agent then placed this deal on the back burner, only speaking to his club 72 hours before the window slammed shut.

They also didn't look to do this deal until they had signed the back up keeper and the emergency replacement LB. Further highlighting the lack of drive or urgency to get this deal across the line.

I'm glad he's here, we needed reinforcements. I'm slightly skeptical about whether he is good enough, he has the right skillset, but can he consistently put in top level performances that you need to play for a top side. I'm not so convinced. But let's wait and see.


8.) 01 Sep 2023 16:45:01
I’m also glad it’s done, he’s probably not a world beater but he’ll do a job and from what little I’ve seen he will at least put a lot of effort in which is half the battle.

However, the lack of goals in the team if a real issue. Left back loan should have been put on hold until they found someone who can score some goals. Need a striker, can’t rely on a new kid who’s still learning.


9.) 01 Sep 2023 16:31:17
I saw on the Liverpool page about a week ago ed002 mentioned we were looking to sign ezequiel palacios from leverkusen but it would be for next summer when casemiro potentially will go to a Saudi club, is this still the plan Ed?

{Ed002's Note - They would like that.}


10.) 01 Sep 2023 16:57:58
Fallguy,

How do you know we can’t rely on him? We have paid a lot of money for him, the club obviously think he’s good enough, so fingers crossed they are right.


11.) 01 Sep 2023 17:09:44
Let’s hope Ten did not want Amrabat then, because ones he did want and signed not exactly pulled up any trees.
Before people say Cas TBF he wanted DeJong and wasted a whole summer on him, not really want Cas and Cas was best player last year.
He wanted Antony and got Antony, not setting the world on fire
Ten picked Carthorse, he was good! ok some will say he was a loan, yes he was but there were others around I’m sure that could have been loaned who could actually score.
He wanted Mount, we don’t know yet where he going to play! So we have to wait on that one.
I’m not overly excited with Tens purchases as I’m not with the team as a whole, because I don’t see it as good enough to win a league, I’m confused in what we are looking for if I’m honest, maybe just happy if we can secure top 4 plus did not want Ronaldo, because he did not press, fair enough, but next breath Ten says Martial is good at press! Then get Carthorse TBF could press, but could not score! Now we appear this season to sort of half press…Individually, we are now in 2nd season and is there a style we can be sure we are actually seeing or at least an end goal, we got two wide players in Rashford and Antony, not really going to supply lots of ammunition for the new forward, so yes I am a little perplexed to say the least, one thing for sure we spending lots of money assembling this.


12.) 01 Sep 2023 17:10:37
I don’t know we can’t rely on him to score goals, but it’s an awful big gamble only having one striker for the season. (Can’t count martial as a striker, well not a good one anyway)

I really do hope he hits the ground running and is a superstar, fingers crossed.


13.) 01 Sep 2023 17:45:49
Hojlund might not score bags of goals by himself this season, I don’t think any of us are expecting him to, but I reckon he will change our style of play enough and give defenders real problems in the box that it will create space and open up chances for our other forwards. I’m not sure we need another striker, if Rashford can push on from last season, and Antony can build from what I see personally as a positive start and contribute more, add Bruno who is always good for 15+ goals, and then Hojlund maybe 10-15 goals himself, I think we will be absolutely fine in attack this year.


14.) 01 Sep 2023 18:15:14
JE888, my thoughts exactly.


15.) 01 Sep 2023 18:30:28
Martial is also still in the squad, as much as people don’t like him (I don’t either) you can’t just ignore him so he’s the back up striker.

Looking forward to the window being closed so we can just get on with it, the squad is looking good, some good options off the bench as well so let’s hope we can find some form like we did last season.


16.) 01 Sep 2023 19:04:00
Don't forget amad will be coming back as well, I'm sure he can play and has played centrally in attack plus he gives another option out wide right.


17.) 01 Sep 2023 19:42:27
ezequiel palacios?

Anyone seen him play and any good? googled him and he plays for leverkusen, can't remember personally if i have watched him. I guess will be watching some leverkusen games this year:)


18.) 01 Sep 2023 21:00:07
Oh ok Chris of course I answer to you. So all the people who don’t think we are looking that great should disappear of the site, wow it be good then won’t it, like when everyone said Ole at the wheel will all be fine then you all turned round and woke up!


19.) 01 Sep 2023 21:45:27
Ahh Ole wonder what he is up these days.


20.) 01 Sep 2023 22:34:52
It’s Maze, I’m now sure of it.


21.) 01 Sep 2023 22:52:12
I think Trafford is just doing this for effect and click bait lol, no way any supporter can be this negative or think this way off our players.


22.) 01 Sep 2023 23:15:46
I stand by what I said last night Ahmad, he’s not a United fan. I think a rival fan coming here to troll and spread negativity. I agree no United fan talks about our players like he does.


23.) 02 Sep 2023 09:35:28
Regarding Hojlund, people shouldn't expect him to score a ton of goals, I don't think that's why he was targeted.

I believe he was brought in because he can do the job Weghorst did, making life, but better, and while also scoring a respectable number of goals. He isn't a pure goalscorer, which is why comparisons to Haland are so annoying. Instead, he's a forward who will Make life difficult for defenders, force mistakes and create openings for other attacking players.

However, he's no Weghorst or Heskey, he will score a decent number of goals too. Just don't expect him to be leading the race for the golden boot.

With Rashford, Sancho, Martial and maybe even Antony or Bruno offering cover/ rotation options, I'm not as concerned as some of you seem to be. We'll need another striker in the future, hopefully as a replacement for Martial, but for now I think we're ok.


24.) 02 Sep 2023 09:02:49
We shouldn’t be accusing posters of not being United fans or being a troll because they have a different opinion. Argue your own opinion and Trafford has his own. Personally I can see Traffords point.

When I said Moyes was a disaster people on here were telling me what to post. Ole people on here couldn’t see it and told me what to post.

Personally I am not convinced about our plan and what has been bought or not bought. We shall see but I suspect we will have a real fight to get top four, Villa could be a dark horse. Goals win matches, we hope the new striker can deliver. Defences win championships so I suspect we will be hoping for a cup.


25.) 02 Sep 2023 10:20:52
Red Man,

There is a difference between your succinct posts explaining your points and the rambling constant rants of somebody saying the same thing all the time with zero balance and everything negative, I think that’s the issue.

We can all see that everything isn’t amazing, there are players we could have bought better than the ones we have, we didn’t sign all of the exact players people want, but the whole teams isn’t useless, there are some promising signs. We haven’t played well so far but we have 2 wins from 3 but that’s not good enough because we ‘should have lost’, it’s just all very pessimistic and boring and if you post like that you’ve got to expect a bit of a response.

Nobody wants anybody to stop posting, far from it, this place is all about opinions, but if you come on and only post negative stuff like you’re a rival fan you’re going to get called out on it, always have and always will.


26.) 02 Sep 2023 15:24:51
Call me out all you like, but don’t accuse me of not being a fan of united, in fact tell me why else would I spend so much money at United game after game, and been doing so for past 5 years and previous to that season ticket holder for 20 years and then was only able to get to max 6-8 games a season…. sorry i am not head over heels with this team as you are. Only seems about opinions if they match yours, that’s the problem, if your happy with the team great, no problem to me at all, but you seem fixated with me, clearly same as you are about someone called Maze you harp on about. Like I said help is available.


27.) 02 Sep 2023 15:43:57
It's often suggested that managers should be given three years. Enough time to rebuild the team in their vision, and to see the fruits of that labour. I think by the end of his first season, mentality and workrate has clearly improved. Style isn't quite there, in fact I can't remember the last time Utd were completely enjoyable to watch (even in Fergie's last season we were flat) we're not playing great and not killing teams off, but we won a few things.
I reckon by the end of season 2 on the playing front Erik will have added 12+ players in total and cleared out a fair few of the so-called dead-wood / bad eggs. Give it until next summer and I'm certain we can include McT / Maguire / Martial in the departed list (maybe even Jan), and hopefully we'll have won something else and be looking at some really strong reinforcements as we'll need to replace those three too.


28.) 02 Sep 2023 21:22:14
That's a fair summary Spenno,

Massively important that we finish in UCL places so we can keep the rebuild going. Even better if we can shift these Glazers.


 

 

31 Aug 2023 16:54:01
Looks like Cucurella deal could be off. United want to option to end loan in January, Chelsea don't. United are now looking at Reguilon from Spurs.

Above is from Fabrizio Romano just now.

Personally I'd rather stick with what we've got than Reguilon. He can't even get close to the spurs team. A big no from me.

Fallguy

1.) 31 Aug 2023 17:09:59
Agreed. It’s a little embarrassing that we’re now being linked with two Spurs cast offs.


2.) 31 Aug 2023 17:25:36
Many players go to Spurs and don't keep their form going. Maybe that's a Spurs issue. We can only judge him on his performances at this club.


3.) 31 Aug 2023 17:29:09
If it means Reguilon is coming in because we also have the flexibility to get Amrabat too, I'm fine with that. Reguilon and Amrabat is much better than Cucurella on his own.


4.) 31 Aug 2023 17:32:44
The arrogance of this club is so frequently astonishing.

They know a player can't appear for 3 clubs in a season, something Chelsea were also aware of - hence the appearance against AFC Wimbledon.
They don't yet know whether or not Shaw will return and hit the ground running, irrespective of when he returns.
The very same applies to Malacia.
They clearly lack the faith in Fernandez.
Yet somehow, there's an absolute moron in a suit somewhere who thinks United are in any position of strength when negotiating what is essentially an unanticipated transfer dictated simply by dire need with little time.

Yet another glaring example of just how thoroughly incompetent some people at the club are.


5.) 31 Aug 2023 17:39:28
Agreed. Ignoring everything else, I find it pretty wild that we expected the lad to just up sticks and move his family to Manchester just for four months of football and seemingly no chance of a permanent move. It’s little wonder that he said no.


6.) 31 Aug 2023 17:54:03
Reguilon is poor. Dalot will be first choice LB until Shaw returns, whereas Cucurella would have walked into our side. Depressing.


7.) 31 Aug 2023 18:14:38
If Reguilon is fit, he will play.

Spurs is pretty stocked in that position. Idogie, Perisic and Sessegnon.


8.) 31 Aug 2023 18:54:38
Reguilon has been disappointing for Spurs but he was scouted for Utd before signing for them.

Give the lad a chance.


9.) 31 Aug 2023 19:25:26
Underwhelming to say the least. Cucurella showed talent within our league reguilon has bern average at best. Altho seeing jaime redknap quizzing keane over it might be worth it after what keane said a while back.


 

 

 

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28 Aug 2023 12:35:54
Apparently United have rejected West Ham's approach over the weekend for Maguire. Report says United have no intention of selling him and want to keep him.

If that's true then god help us all.

Fallguy

1.) 28 Aug 2023 13:28:43
TBF, although I don’t like him and he a cart horse, he does always give 100% so for the 20 odd million they will recoup, decent 4th/ 5th choice, so personally unless you can clear 3o million little point in selling him. Especially if taking a gamble on signing an unproven no experience CB, for 40 million plus let’s be fair Evans good days are long long gone. Money better spent adding some goals to the team.


2.) 28 Aug 2023 13:31:09
It'll be loan deal rebuffed.


3.) 28 Aug 2023 13:43:22
I see this as making sense.

The reason for United's problems regarding making signings ATM is the FFP conundrum.
A loan for Maguire will not be helpful at this stage because, with the injury and fitness concerns of Shaw, Varane and Martinez, we will be another CB short with no real prospect of addressing the issue.

So we'd be one CB short when 3 of our 4 best CBs may well have gremlins this season, we'd raise no funds for his replacement, and we'd still be paying a premium to shift him - a loan would be a ridiculous idea.

That said, in light of Maguire's irritating but perfectly understandable stance, we cannot sell him either. West Ham will not pay him more than £120k per week and Maguire wants his current £200k per week wage to be honoured by United - over £8m.

He's holding all the chips unfortunately and United are just stuck in the cesspit they waded into.


4.) 28 Aug 2023 13:57:54
Spot on Ork.

I predicted it would come down to this and that we would haggle over a few million. We will come to regret this for footballing reasons, but it is the Glazer way sadly.

Loan deal only makes sense for WHU and Maguire. It would only make sense for us if we were well stocked at CB or had funds for his replacement.

We don't.


5.) 28 Aug 2023 14:37:00
Great Post ork. Summed up perfectly.


6.) 28 Aug 2023 14:49:40
We only have to wait a few days relax and when the window closes we will all know .


7.) 28 Aug 2023 16:42:02
HM

Very happy to warm the subs seats and pocket 200k a week. The truth is that, His dad is GS and will never drop him unless England replace him as Manager.

Im quite sure! That if he was told "you don't play every week in the EPL then we can't gige you a number for the upcoming matches and tournament", Harry would still pocket the wages and be happy.

Whats your opinions on this Guys? If Harry Maguire warms the bench and looses his England shirt, Whilst England march on and win the cup

Would Harry get roasted and be salty.


8.) 28 Aug 2023 17:43:00
Unburdened,

I’ve no idea what get roasted and be salty means but I couldn’t really care less what Maguire does. I think Colwill will replace him for England either way.


9.) 28 Aug 2023 21:01:17
I don't know if you've noticed but we are having a little bit of an injury crisis in defence.

Our current fit defensive options are AWB, Dalot, Alvaro Fernandez, Lindelof, and Martinez. Varane maybe be fit, but given his fitness issues, and that he came off at halftime against Forest, can he be relied upon?

While Maguire isn't good enough, we do need bodies to play. He'll be 4th choice at best behind Martinez, Varane and Lindelof, he could end up 6th choice behind Shaw and Evans.

The only reason to sell him is to raise funds to buy a better replacement. But at best we'll get 20m after paying him off his contract. Are we really going to get a great CB player for 20m? Probably not. So it might be of those situations where it doesn't actually make sense to sell him right now.


10.) 29 Aug 2023 09:03:02
Let him rot see how his career goes after not playing

Ego to match the size of his head.


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2024 09:16:56
Admittedly I’ve not watched Braithwaite every week, but anything over £30m seems a massive gamble, in my opinion.

He’s had one season in a team that sits deep and doesn’t play in a style that ETH apparently wants to. To spend that much on him seems crazy to me. From reports, it’s basically our entire summer budget on one largely unproven player.

Don’t know why, but he gives me Phil Jones vibes.

Obviously hoping I’m taking rubbish and he turns out to be world class.

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12 Jun 2024 14:05:33
How many players do Chelsea need…? Surprised they can still afford to keep spending without selling a few.

Doesn’t Cole palmer play from the right for them?

Although I’m not sure how firm uniteds interest was. I doubt it was high priority. I’m guessing CB and DM are higher up the list. Unless of course we find some sucker to take Antony off our hands!

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09 Jun 2024 13:20:42
If ETH goes there is only one option in my opinion, and that’s Poch. Anybody else wouldn’t make sense.

I would imagine 99% of fans would be against Southgate before a ball is even kicked.

I was all for a replacement, but I’ve changed my mind and don’t mind if ETH stays. Just a little worried that if gets a bad start and is 8th or something by Xmas it could all go very bad and we’d end up looking for a new manager mid season, when all the good options are now in other jobs.

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25 May 2024 11:09:17
Much rather Poch than Tuchel.

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22 May 2024 18:47:59
Sorry, it wasn’t part of the same rumour. The de zerbi part was from someone else, can’t remember who now. Even said the compensation for him was £4.3m.

Like I said it could be a load of rubbish. But the ETH leaving part seems to be more accurate.

I’m hoping it’s Poch coming in.

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05 Jun 2024 12:24:31
I could be wrong, but I have a vaguely remember reading somewhere that for financial reasons they needed to wait until after June to sack him.

Like I said, that could be wrong. But if true it will be a few more weeks.

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23 May 2024 20:51:30
News tonight saying united have met with McKenna’s representatives.

Every appointment is a risk. But he would be a massive risk.

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23 May 2024 19:21:04
Just my opinion looking in, ETH is never going to be the guy to get United back to the top. He might improve next year, he might not. But I can never see him being able to take United back to the top.

I don’t buy into the injuries being the reason it all went wrong. Yes it had an effect, but he still managed to field a team of internationals most weeks. If the players you have available can’t play the game plan you want then change the game plan. You don’t just throw the players on the pitch and hope it works out. However, if that style of play is ETH’s game plan then it won’t work no matter who is on the pitch. No back four can cope with that many attacks in a game.

Getting outplayed by city or Arsenal is one thing and is understandable at the current time. But when teams fighting relegation can have that many shots, out fight and often out play you, then there is something really wrong.

I’m 100% in the camp of trying somebody else now. The rebuild starts this summer, so if the new regime isn’t sold on ETH then why start a rebuild with him. Might as well start with the guy you want in charge.

However, I do agree with some of the posters above. Taking a chance on McKenna is probably not the best move right now. Probably a little too inexperienced right now. Maybe as the next boss.

I don’t see any reason not to go with Poch. I think he’d jump at the chance. Players seem to like him and play for him. He pretty much had a team full of brand new players at the start of the season, most of them very young, once he had time to nail down his starting 11 and get them drilled in what he wants they started to perform.

Just my thoughts, I’m not an expert. So can only hope the people at United making the decisions get it right.

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21 May 2024 19:51:43
I’d happily take him at United.

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21 Apr 2024 08:09:12
Apparently so. No idea what they make them do in training.

Worryingly it’s looking it will have to be Maguire and Casemiro at centre back! Worlds slowest partnership.

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