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02 Jun 2017 09:57:34
Would the AG situation make us see James rodriguez as an option? similar player - not in quality, but possibly ability? If real want degea so bad what do you guys think of a ge gea + £70m for james, kroos and morata? Plus I will not be surprised if we see Zlatan by October, so we may not need a talisman forward so urgently after all.

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{Ed025's Note - is that you ed woodward?...come on ryan mate real are not going to buy that..


1.) 02 Jun 2017 10:11:36
i know ed. bit of a stretch. it may be upwards of £100m if we got all 3. On a side note, does anyone know what is happening with rooney? Surely he can't be considering China, although it may be worth it when we see him try to speak mandarin.

{Ed025's Note - now that would be fun ryan...hes still struggling with english!, i expect wayne to leave united this summer and everton could well be his destination but im spending a lot of time in church praying that hes not mate.. :)


2.) 02 Jun 2017 10:21:41
I don't know ed, he may make a decent replacement for barkley in the squad and can have a good impact on the youngsters - davies being one.

{Ed025's Note - if we want our youngsters hanging around old peoples homes looking for top totty then your right ryan.. :)


3.) 02 Jun 2017 10:58:45
Wouldn't take James or Morata. Neither are good enough.


4.) 02 Jun 2017 11:18:29
Morata is definitely good enough what attacker has scored 20+ goals starting mainly in the bench in Europe still younger enough to improve! Just real madrid overprice every single player he's a 25-30mill player at most!


5.) 02 Jun 2017 11:40:07
Morata is actually quite good at Juventus. It's just that Zidane preferred playing Benzema that you people get a bad impression of Morata.


6.) 02 Jun 2017 16:16:22
Morata for me please.


 

 

 

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03 May 2019 09:45:17
Thanks for the replies below all - we have actually signed quite a few young players - Shaw, Pogba, lindelof, bailly, dalot, zaha, martial etc. all of whom were tipped to go on and do really well, but haven't fulfilled their potential. This suggests there are larger underlying problems with recruitment, coaching, style of play, motivation etc. My question is what makes us think buying young players over the next few windows will work when it hasn't worked in the past? City, liverpool adn Spurs to a certain extent bought from within the premiership when they were in the position we are in because you knew what you were getting and could build from there. e. g. robertson, wijnaldum, mane, tevez, lescott, nasri, clichy, sissoko, dembel etc. Should we be looking in the prem for reinforcements rather than germany, portugal and spain?

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1.) 03 May 2019 10:06:31
Lukaku, matic, schneiderlin, shaw, mata and fellaini were all recruits from the premier league. No of them have been successful signings in the frand scheme of things.

People can chop up our recruitment any way they like and find a correlation between the background of the player we signed and their poor performamce. Whether that's nationality or the league they came from but its not that simple.

We don't have a default way of playing in most games which makes recruitment haphazard and constant managerial changes mean we have a mishmash of players of different styles.

Once we get the style and system sorted we can then recruit more effectively and efficiently.


2.) 03 May 2019 10:07:59
The players you mentioned were all bought by different managers with a different idea of how to play. None have been fully trusted or allowed to play or express themselves.

Buying from within the Prem is always desirable where possible. It limits the chances of them struggling to adapt to a new club and a new culture. Also it weakens your opponents, while you also know how these players perform against the sides you play most weeks.


 

 

02 May 2019 17:38:47
Watching Tottenham and Liverpool over the last couple of days I wanted to ask all the posters a question - who was the last player we bought that we improved significantly. I think we may have to go as far back as DeGea.

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1.) 02 May 2019 18:04:22
Genuinely cannot think of one. Matic for a season perhaps.


2.) 02 May 2019 18:12:00
Lindelof is one who has improved over the past two years, but aside from that it’s a bit sparse.


3.) 02 May 2019 18:21:45
I would say Herrera is a better player now than when we signed him. I’m not sure who else.


4.) 02 May 2019 19:50:39
Herera and Lindelof.


5.) 02 May 2019 20:23:02
Lindelof is the only one. Herrera maybe, but he has been in and out so much it is hard to say if he is actually better of just getting a run to build up form.

But then it's hardly surprising when most of our signings have been players supposedly at their peaks.

How many players have we signed under the age of 23?


6.) 02 May 2019 20:31:59
Ander, DDG, Lindelof.

The others can’t improve as they were invariably terrible signings in the first place.


7.) 02 May 2019 20:51:26
Sanchez. He's really improved on the piano over the last few months. Think Bill Murray in Groundhog Day.


8.) 02 May 2019 20:53:52
I wouldn’t say Herrera has improved, he has adapted to a new role. In Spain he played a bit higher up the pitch, and was a link between midfield and attack. With us he’s more defensive minded, and has improved that side of his game, but seems lacking in creativity.


9.) 02 May 2019 21:05:03
Luke Shaw?


10.) 02 May 2019 21:27:03
What about young do you guys think he's a better player then he was at Villa?

{Ed025's Note - he was crap at villa and has gone downhill since..


11.) 02 May 2019 21:33:26
Rashford, Lingard, Lindelof, Shaw, degea, martial, Herra have all improved I my opinion. The only players to regress of not improve was Smalling Jones Rojo and Pogba but in his defensive he was already above our level he just has another fear I think we are holding him back from reaching.


12.) 02 May 2019 21:58:09
😂😂😂. Just don't know why we even bothered signing him.


13.) 02 May 2019 22:42:52
Only de Gea has improved the rest are tosh.


14.) 02 May 2019 22:53:33
Van persie.


15.) 03 May 2019 07:50:24
lol Mort.


 

 

03 Aug 2018 16:34:56
Question to all the Eds and posters. Most of the big clubs seem to have a transition plan lasting 2-3 years or sometimes longer. City have been building something for a good 6-7 years now, Real Madrid seem to have a 2 year plan and so do Bayern, pool seem to be building something too. with the post LVG plans scuppered are we thinking of something on these lines or are we just prioritising keeping on a manager for 3-4 years for continuity?

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1.) 04 Aug 2018 02:46:23
Utd don't have any plans, just waiting around for the next crop of 8 superstars to emerge from the academy.


2.) 04 Aug 2018 08:36:50
Fergie ran the club pretty much from top to bottom for the 20 + years, have no doubts about that.
The football club went into a free fall when he left, like a school without a headmaster and only employing substitute teachers.
Moyes getting rid of the likes of phealan and meulenstein was a huge mistake.
I honestly believe that LVG would have brought great structure to the club and instead of screwing him like we did he should have been offered a DOF role as I think at his age he would have been happy working behind the scenes creating a footballing structure for the whole club, la masia type comes to mind.
I think this would have happened too if it were not for the toxics who I believe succeeded in cutting off their nose to spite their face when they got their wish.
I also could have seen allegri working under van gaal as a dof but alas we will never know.
We wanted instant success and unfortunately we're not prepared to let something blossom and grow.
There is no plan with Jose I feel, he is not that type of manager and that is not his fault. We wanted a winner, Jose is a winner, in my opinion corners are cut because of this, i. e. youth academy structure, potential transfers etc.
Problem we have is that this club needs a Dof, now may just not be the right time/ manager for this to happen.
I don't blame Jose for this, I blame the toxics.

{Ed001's Note - you know LVG acted in that role at Ajax for a while and they had to rip it up and start again after he was booted out? He made a complete arse of it.}


3.) 04 Aug 2018 08:54:16
Ah, the toxics. The fans may have been whining, but they whined during SAF’s first few seasons, however Edwards had balls and toughed it out confident he had the right man. I think Woody isn’t cut from the same cloth, and the pressure for instantaneous results is enormous nowadays.

To blame the fans is trite, United is a huge multi million pound brand, if the people in charge crumble on the face of some disgruntled fans then God help us all.


4.) 04 Aug 2018 09:09:55
100% ED and to be fair his ego probably caused him as much strife as it did success in his career.
And absolutely i may be wrong but i think van gaal seen Koeman as inferior to him. I think Van gaal's ego may have been tempered/ reigned in towards the end of his time at United, he was also at the latter stages of his career and knew United was his last chance at glory
Van gaal beleived Koemans Ajax were betraying the Ajax stlye and way of playing which I actually tend to agree with, given Ajax's downfall during this time and after van gaal was sacked, don't forget Koeman was sacked too shortly after. Although Zlatan and Van der Vaart are probably really to blame for this lol
Now i know Koeman had a great season or 2 at Southampton but Everton also stands out for me and the errors made there, mostly regarding transfers tbf.
I just think that Koeman was a lesser version of Van Gaal and i think Louis seen that.

{Ed001's Note - Koeman played the style of football that LVG set out mate. LVG decided the crappy style of play that Koeman continued with after going elsewhere. It was LVG's boring style that was being used.}


5.) 04 Aug 2018 09:15:48
Thats exactly it though AJH, after Fegie left the club had no-one with balls.
Your bang on in what was needed was a Martin Edwards, Gill i wish could have been that man but i think sometimes he is also given a bit too much Credit.
Its because of this that the toxics ended up getting their way.
This is not my opinion, this is fact, we had a succession plan re van gaal/ Allegri but the pressure of winning instantaneously and pressure from toxics changed this.


6.) 04 Aug 2018 09:22:02
The club overall need a strategy then a plan, if they have one it isn’t obvious. The only thing I can see is that the highly regarded McKenna was brought into the first team coaching arena perhaps the club have him in mind for an even bigger role in the future? I was pointing out the issues of transition before SAF retired but it seemed the club didn’t have a plan other than parachute someone in who had the right character rather than ability. I am sure Jose will have a plan but it will depend on whether it is short or long term and then whether the club supports it.

One point I will take up with you is the youth academy structure. We seem to have moved away from the previous aim of developing young players to sell them on for profit. Nicky Butt seems to have an aim, we seem to be bringing some very good young players on board from around the world, Puigmal for example. We have the current England under 17 captain James Garner who Carrick rates highly and made his debut on tour. I don’t know how much effort is put into local Manchester youth which is something City do strongly.


7.) 04 Aug 2018 09:30:20
I have to disagree with you on this Ed001

"Having previously worked together at Barcelona, where Van Gaal was coach and Koeman his assistant, the pair linked up again in 2004 at Dutch giants Ajax. At first, the arrangement seemed clear: Koeman was manager, Van Gaal was director of football. This meant Koeman had to handle all matters connected to the first team, like any manager would, while Van Gaal had to interact with scouts and attract new players. That way, Koeman could to focus on matches without having to worry about transfers.

Concluding transfers and making deals in the boardroom, that was Van Gaal’s job. He wasn’t supposed to stick his nose into Koeman’s training methods. Van Gaal started arranging meetings with Koeman to discuss tactics. Again, Koeman felt like Van Gaal was undermining his authority. Why was Van Gaal trying to tell him what to do? Wasn’t he the manager, and wasn’t he the one calling the shots when it came to tactics? "

Sorry i've taken the above from 442.com cause i couldn't be arsed typing this much to explain myself at this ungodly hour


Also on what a **** Koeman was.

"There is a slightly darker side to Koeman which is not widely known - for example his relationship with Louis van Gaal is terrible because of an incident that happened when Van Gaal in the early 2000s when Koeman was a coach at Ajax and Van Gaal was the director of boxers, " said Winner.

"There was a problem in the dressing room. Rafael van der Vaart and Zlatan Ibrahimovic basically were fighting the whole time. They just couldn't stand each other and Van Gaal as director of football came to Koeman and said, 'You have to get rid of them, I don't care who it is because this situation can't go on. Your call, your choice'. And Koeman got rid of Ibrahimovic.

"A short time later, after Ajax lost, I think it was to Bayern, his excuse after the game was that Van Gaal had told him to sell Ibrahimovic. Now, this is not the kind of incident that reflects terribly well on Koeman. "

David Winner, author of renowned Dutch football book Brilliant Orange.

That bits not from 442 but again I've pinched from Internet but this is how i have always understood what has happened. I'm not saying i know intrinsically but my aunt lives in holland, her husband used to youth coach at psv (very small role), i used to get to go to go to psv matches when i was a kid and he reckons Koeman was a **** aswell.

{Ed001's Note - Koeman is but that is not relevant. None of that is. You said LVG would play a different style of football if he had a choice. He wouldn't, Koeman played the way LVG wanted the game played. You are talking about something that has absolutely no bearing on anything I said and claimed you are disagreeing based on something that doesn't say anything of the kind. I can't be arsed, if you want to argue over nothing, don't waste my time with it.}


8.) 04 Aug 2018 09:31:25
It's just life after fergy .
People starting to see how good he was and how lucky we were to have him.


9.) 04 Aug 2018 09:46:01
Ed001 there is a big difference between arguinh and disagreeing. I am doing the latter

I never said anything about VAn Gaal playing a different style of football if he had a choice, (although obviously he would by the fact he disagreed with Koemans) I said that Van Gall believed Koeman was betraying Ajaxs way and style of playing.
Koeman clearly didn't play the way Van Gaal wanted if van gaal was starting to interfere in trainings and tactics as he did.

as for the below
'You are talking about something that has absolutely no bearing on anything I said and claimed you are disagreeing based on something that doesn't say anything of the kind'

I clearly had too many pints last night to be abe to decipher this sorry.

{Ed001's Note - whatever. Not interested. You are trying to start 'disagreements' when you are even admitting you haven't understood anything. Pointless talking to you. Copy and pasting other people's opinions when you haven't even realised they are utterly irrelevant just proves this whole conversation was useless.}


10.) 04 Aug 2018 09:49:48
United has no identity at the moment, or plan, we seem to be spending in hope rather than expectation, City had and still does have a real plan, United under Fergie had real plans, someone at the club needs to take the blinkers off and look at our traditions and history, but maybe the Ed and the Glazers are happy achieving top 4 each year.


11.) 04 Aug 2018 09:52:59
Also sorry if you think i'm arguing with you, i have followed the site for a long time and appreciate the great work you and all the eds do in making this one of the best football opinion sites around.
I'm not having a go, just disagreeing, this is my opinion, it may be wrong but its my own.

{Ed001's Note - I don't care if you are disagreeing or arguing, the point is you are not even discussing the same damn thing I was. You were so busy trying to prove yourself right, you never even bothered to understand what I said.}


12.) 04 Aug 2018 10:05:17
Your replies are out of order Ed001, i'm entitled to my opinion your entitled to yours.
What have I not understood other than your riddle I alluded to above. I have given a reason why I have copied and pasted these opinions rather than type, it was just faster and I have a terrible hangover. I have also clarified that I understood the van gaal scenario the same way.
I kinda don't understand your problem, is that I disagreed with you rather than just say sorry Ed your right I'm wrong?

{Ed001's Note - you didn't disagree with me, that was my point, but you keep saying you are. You just said Koeman was an arse too. You are just making an argument over nothing and continuing it because you still think it is relevant to anything.}


13.) 04 Aug 2018 10:08:20
You basically said lvg was tried as a Dof at Ajax and he made a mess of it. I was trying to provide some context as to why that did not work out and showing that it wasn't a purely van gaal made a mess of it kind of thing. I'm used to fleshing out and providing context for my opinions, sorry won't be so foolish to do so on here again.

{Ed001's Note - but none of it showed that LVG did not fail miserably did it? So you didn't disagree, but you keep arguing. And you are wasting my time. You still have not shown anything to say that LVG did not fail, just that Koeman was an arse.}


14.) 04 Aug 2018 10:21:25
Lol and your the one accusing me of arguing for the sake of it. If I am then we are 2 peas in a pod.
I never said lvg as Dof didn't fail at Ajax, I just tried to provide context of why he did fail.


15.) 04 Aug 2018 10:23:17
And by providing the context I was alluding to the fact that I obviously didn't think it was a given that he would fail in the same way as he did as Ajax if he were to have been given the position as Dof at united.


16.) 04 Aug 2018 10:26:55
Also koeman went to the Ajax board and basically said its either me or him boys. Van gall was sacked as DOF as he got on koemans tits for interfering and also apparently as lvg sold ibra to juve, but as I tried to provide context to earlier, koeman was actually the reason for 1 of zlatan or vdv being sold as well as the bad blood between the players.


17.) 04 Aug 2018 11:30:21
Rosspique- let it rest dude. We are all here due to the eds great site and their hard work. Don't bite the hand that feeds you huh?


18.) 04 Aug 2018 12:00:57
12 days this is what I posted above:

Also sorry if you think i'm arguing with you, i have followed the site for a long time and appreciate the great work you and all the eds do in making this one of the best football opinion sites around.
I'm not having a go, just disagreeing, this is my opinion, it may be wrong but its my own.

I posted an opinion, Ed001 disagreed with me, I didn't accuse him of wasting my time or invalidate my opinion like he did me.

I respectfully disagreed with Ed001, I didn't realise this was unacceptable.

I never set out to cause an argument with Ed001 but it seems I have, again I thoroughly respect yours and the editors works and I apologise if I have upset anyone.


19.) 04 Aug 2018 14:24:37
Moyes was an absolute disaster. LvG wasn't great, treated badly though. And I don't think Allegri would have worked out.


 

 

04 Jun 2018 21:56:16
Fred- more like mousa Dembele or more like Anderson?

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1.) 05 Jun 2018 01:10:20
More like Fred to be honest.


2.) 04 Jun 2018 23:24:22
By the time Jose is finished with him He will make him look like djemba djemba the second.


3.) 05 Jun 2018 09:03:12
Plays a lot like Modric but not as silky 😆😆.


4.) 05 Jun 2018 10:29:52
Like midi but not as silky? I've seen Fred numerous times turn defence to attack and go past 2 or 3 pressing players. Don't know who to compare him too play wise. Maybe a dribbling Kante.

{Ed007's Note - Sounds like Ed025, he turns into a right dribbling Kante after a few beers.}


5.) 05 Jun 2018 15:18:01
Like BFRO but his comments are no where near as g😆😆d.


6.) 05 Jun 2018 15:22:23
I had to read your reply twice ed to get an even deeper meaning to your joke. Made me chuckle.

{Ed007's Note - :)


 

 

26 May 2018 19:21:14
Dint realise I could ever be so desperate for a Real Madrid win.

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1.) 26 May 2018 20:41:11
Cheeky little arm roll by Ramos. He knows how to take chunks out of anyone and generally get away with it.


 

 

 

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24 Jul 2019 11:24:59
Clubs speak to agents first to understand if the player will be interested in the move and in the terms proposed based on the perceived value to the squad / budget available etc. They can approach the selling club before or after this as this has no bearing on if the fee will be agreed. if pepe has agreed terms with us it does not mean that we will agree a fee with lille. I hope we steer clear given the concerns about the players attitude.

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01 Jun 2019 16:35:39
Meunier and one of Saul or Longstaff depending on if Pogba leaves.

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29 Mar 2019 14:46:54
I am not convinced either Ed. Unless Woodward wants to trust others' with more experience in footballing matters and let go a little, the structure is not going to do its job. But as a fan, i can only hope he does soon and enjoy the good football in the meanwhile.

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29 Mar 2019 13:56:31
Thanks for clarifying that Ed. if we have shifted our focus to finding a TD then i take that as Woodward wanting to keep first team matters under his thumb. Not a good thing as he has gone far too long and caused many issues simply because there is no one to challenge his opinion and stance on matters he has little experience with.
On the plus side us moving towards establishing a style of play should make our recruitment better in the long term. LvG tried to do this by getting all the footballing teams playing the same way and changing the scouting / training. Only issue was his style did not suit what the fans wanted.

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29 Mar 2019 11:58:35
What exactly is the difference between a tech director and a DoF - is it level of influence or seniority in structure, or just one position having two titles?

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{Ed002's Note - A DoF would be responsible for all footballing sides and the scouting system. Typically a TD would be responsible for the scouting and often setting a style of play.}


 

 

 

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29 Aug 2019 12:53:26
He missed large parts of preseason - so maybe just getting fit. I think there is a place for him alongside pogba in front of a DM (mCtom) . Lingard has not had a great few games and pushing Fred and pogba further forward may help creativity and allow them to play their natural role.

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19 Jul 2019 06:53:16
Completely agree mate. Find that identity we lost and make sure the 11 on the field fight for the badge. I would have Fred/ Longstaff next to Pogba as I don’t think Gomes and garner have 50 games a season between them yet.

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16 Jul 2019 18:58:55
Don’t think we will get both Longstaff and SMS. Would rather we signed the one with better technique as none of the players who have joined us in the last few years have improved very much technically.

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16 Jul 2019 18:51:03
Roy Keane once said hard work beats talent when talent does not work hard. But I agree with you that Ravel has bigger problems than working hard, but he does deserve one last chance.

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16 Jul 2019 11:10:40
Agreed penfold. if we get longstaff, a midfield of him and mctominay will have a lot of heart and effort. need a spark of creativity (pogba / fernandes ) with them and we have the makings of a solid midfield.

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{Ed002's Note - Longstaff's heart is in the NE.}