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04 Aug 2025 15:22:57
Multiple sources now claiming that we are going to put in a formal offer for Sesko. It had previously been claimed that we'd only submit a bid if he gave use some indication that he wanted to join. Make of that what you will.
1.) 05 Aug 2025 07:39:45
NUFC have put in an improved offer.
2.) 05 Aug 2025 09:24:00
To be honest if we have to match the offer of €80m plus €10m in add ons then that's just too much for him at this stage. He hasn't done anything to remotely justify that fee.
Time to move on and look at other options. I know it'd be ideal to sign a striker who'll be the man for the next 5-7 years, but it's not essential. Even if we get someone who'll be good enough for the next 2-3 years and then have to readdress it a couple of years down the line that is fine.
I'd seriously consider speaking with PSG about a deal for Randall Kolo Muani, who might potentially be available on a loan with an obligation to buy next summer. Maybe then take the money we were thinking of spending this summer on a striker and see if we can sign a top class CDM like Baleba or similar. Whispers that Tchoumeni could be available, and we've been interested in him in the past.
3.) 05 Aug 2025 10:35:30
Vivell, Wilcox, amorim might just know a bit more than us shappy.
4.) 05 Aug 2025 10:40:46
Mateta or Watkins would be far better proposition then get some pace in midfield and central defence.
5.) 05 Aug 2025 11:10:04
I'm bored with Sesko already, this could drag on and on. There are other options, we really don't want to get into a bidding was with Newcastle.
If the player says he wants to join us then great, but I've not heard that yet.
6.) 05 Aug 2025 14:34:53
Ajh, I think we have only put in the bid because he has said he wants us. no other explanation.
Not sure why you're bored with it. Massive upgrade.
7.) 05 Aug 2025 14:50:42
Anything is an upgrade on Rasmus and Zirkee, but I am not sure where your getting massive upgrade from, what facts is there to back that up? Sesko not exactly prolific by any means.
8.) 05 Aug 2025 14:55:45
Not sure we can say he is an upgrade yet. If he comes it will take time for him to settle.
9.) 05 Aug 2025 17:20:10
I'm bored with the constant headlines and the not knowing what is going on, i'm bored with the time it seems to take to get deals done.
I also have no idea if he will realise his potemtial, or whether we are simply swapping one with potential for another with potential.
10.) 05 Aug 2025 21:08:31
Alot of people saying he wants or favours us? Does he or was his agent just saying that to play both clubs against each other ensuring a huge financial package for his client and himself. We might have been played here, but time will tell! Whoever loses out is going to have egg on their face due to the public nature of the transfer and all the noise surrounding it.
11.) 05 Aug 2025 22:49:34
If this happens I’d be putting Zirkzee on the transfer list right away. I just don’t see where he fits in this system.
28 Apr 2025 14:11:54
As much as I think Cunha would be an excellent fit for us and for Amorim's system, I still think a centre forward should be our top priority this summer. If rumors are to be believed and we're in a position to pay £63m (€74m) for Cunha and £30m (€35m) for Delap, I'd much rather see us put up the €100m needed to sign Gyokores.
Of course. Whether or not he'd actually want to sign for us is another matter entirely.
1.) 28 Apr 2025 14:43:27
How does anyone know if Gyokores is as much a gamble as Delap or Cunha
I think I would rather have them both than Gyokores if my choice, I’m not sure what pedigree he got to be in 100 million bracket, was not great in England before, he is not an elite striker to be worth 100 million.
{Ed001's Note - he was great for Coventry, which is in England unless I am very mistaken.}
2.) 28 Apr 2025 17:01:46
Surely you need players to provide the service regardless of who the centre forward is? It's not like Hojland gets a lot of service/ opportunities which is part of his/ our problem.
We could have Eusebio up front at the moment and he isn't going to get many.
3.) 28 Apr 2025 17:35:38
So you think he is a 100 million pound elite striker then Ed 001?
{Ed001's Note - did I say that?}
4.) 28 Apr 2025 18:17:53
He’s the right player in the right system, which might be enough.
I think the creative types who play behind the striker and pull the strings are the real gems in any side personally, and a great one is worth their weight in gold. We need a 9 and 10 desperately.
5.) 28 Apr 2025 20:21:05
No point in getting a finisher if there's nothing to finish. We clearly need both a no. 10 and a no. 9 but the decision making in attack is the biggest problem imo. In the dream world that we get Cunha and Gyorkeres then with Amad and Bruno, we'd have a really top level forward line. Lots of ifs and buts in that, and we'd also probably want a CM and a GK to be truly competitive but I'm an optimistic at heart!
6.) 29 Apr 2025 00:09:29
The reason that we don’t create a lot of big chances is because Hoijlund is in the wrong place at the wrong time more of than not. I swear he spends more time with his back to goal than any other striker in the league.
And yeah. Cunha would fit Amorim’s system, but so would Gyokores. The latter would also fit into the system of most other managers in the event that things don’t work out with Amorim.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Cunha would be a great addition, but brining in somebody like Gyokores (and a new keeper) should be our top priorities.
7.) 29 Apr 2025 10:05:17
I think the problem for Hojlund at the moment is that he is not doing some basics that good strikers need to be doing. Essentially, getting in the box within the width of the goal posts and within 8/ 10 yards. When he links play up from deep he is to slow to get in those areas so the balls don't get put there. If he was getting there he'd also be occupying the CB's so that the cut backs we are looking for at the moment could become more successful. If you compared his positioning to Haalands for example I think you'd see a big difference. Hojlund got his goal at the weekend by being in this area and he needs to start getting in there more often.
8.) 29 Apr 2025 14:01:57
I'd love Utd to sign Gyokeres, he looks absolute quality in front of goal. I'd prefer him to Osimhen. Osimhen seems to come with baggage, which is something the club doesn't need.
9.) 29 Apr 2025 14:52:24
Long as his baggage includes goals I could not care less……. who we get, long as the club does its due diligence on a player, which I know for a fact RA does, right into the temperament and background of the player, he hates a disruptive influence so if Oismhen is that RA won’t want him, but to be fair how does anyone on here or the press know that he is, maybe he had good cause to moan previously, we can’t believe the press when it suits.
10.) 29 Apr 2025 15:59:32
Oshimen is too expensive it looks like. I've been impressed with goykeres every time I've seen him which is only 3 or 4 times to ve honest. Suits the system. Has uk experience good relationship with the RA so perhaps he will come to united if we win the europa league.
Lots of speculation to look forward to this summer and the club world cup will play havoc with the window.
11.) 29 Apr 2025 23:18:10
Take a holistic approach to all of this.
Osimehen vs Gyorekes, the latter is the better fit, for a multitude of reasons.
So if we achieve UCL, we go for one of them, IMO.
Do we stop there? No.
We have Obi coming through, and will need more than 2 strikers, likely 4.
Why not have Gyorekes, Delap (remember RA wanted him at Sporting), Obi and Rasmus (give him one more year) .
Cunha is not to be bought as a striker, so a separate discussion again IMO.
12.) 30 Apr 2025 06:47:14
Not buying this RA wanted him rubbish, that was said about Ugarte, but he not exactly purring over him now
Rasmus is pointless keeping if an offer is there he needs to be gone, shown nothing, terrible finisher, poor brain, always on his heels, delayed reaction, can’t head a ball can’t hold up the ball
Yes we need strikers, but ones that can finish and we need an experienced finisher, can’t have all these potentials!
13.) 30 Apr 2025 12:17:03
Gyorkes isn't going for a hundred million half that isn't it dunno how good he really is Portuguese leagues awful but he's going to be leauges above Hoijlund same as Delap is 30 mill for hims a steal good player from the bits iv seen of him.
14.) 30 Apr 2025 14:19:03
Gyorkes is not going for 50m and Delap won’t be going for 30mil, where are you dreaming these figures up from, if that’s the case buy both! But will never happen….
15.) 30 Apr 2025 19:36:02
German,
Delap has a 30m release clause if relegated (now active), and don't quote me on this, but I'm sure Sporting have suggested they would sell for 50m.
16.) 01 May 2025 02:11:23
I thought that Gyokeres buyout was 63m?!
17.) 01 May 2025 07:08:46
Hope your right jimbo and we can have both for 80m but when your seeing very average players going for 40-50 million these days, does that mean then these are two very average players!
18.) 01 May 2025 19:16:07
No chance any clubs paying a hundred million for Gyorkes sure i read somewhere Arsenal are lining him up for a 50 million transfer i think Delaps a no brainer at 30 million class player.
05 Aug 2024 13:14:51
Hi Ed002.
Hope you're well.
Is it true that Barcelona are desperate to get rid of De Jong? If so, are Manchester United still interested in the player, or are the club happy with Mainoo in that position?
{Ed002's Note - Frenkie de Jong (CM/DM) Barcelona will look for a new contract with reduced wages else he will be sold in the summer with interest remaining from Manchester United - although he will need to prove his fitness after injury - so might be one for later in the window. PSG have spoken with his agent and additionally his agent has raised his availability with Chelsea whist discussing another player and with Arsenal - but neither is interested and the wages are huge.}
1.) 05 Aug 2024 14:42:13
Thanks, as always.
2.) 06 Aug 2024 12:39:20
I mean if they are prepared to consider a swap for Antony then they must be truly desperate.
21 Jul 2024 12:52:56
Hi Ed002. Hope you're good.
Do we (or any other clubs besides Madrid) have any interest in Alphonso Davies? One suspects Bayern would prefer to get a decent fee for him this summer than let him walk away for nothing this time next year.
{Ed002's Note - Another club has an interest but not Manchester United.}
1.) 21 Jul 2024 14:43:05
Thanks, Ed. Would be happy to see him move this summer, even if it’s not to us. Am not a fan of Real’s transfer tactics as of late.
2.) 21 Jul 2024 15:52:01
I don't mind it to be honest, they've earned that level of influence. I'd want us to take inspiration for when (if) we return to the top.
Someone like Wharton on a free when he's 24 to partner Mainoo in midfield for club and country would do me nicely!
3.) 21 Jul 2024 23:20:53
They’ve earned their level of influence!? What, like tapping up players left, right and centre!?
4.) 22 Jul 2024 05:04:05
No, what Real are doing is taking the p*** out of other clubs.
They're basically saying 'You crack on spending years helping to develop and nurture talent and, when we feel the time is right, we'll swagger over and bully you into a corner. '
Nobody earns the level of influence to go around acting like a w⚓️ towards everyone else, what utter BS that is.
5.) 22 Jul 2024 10:18:02
While I appreciate it's a perfectly legitimate way to do business, I think this new approach by Real Madrid is morally questionable at best, bullying and professional abuse at worse.
They are one of the wealthiest and richest clubs in the world, they are one of the few clubs that can currently afford to spend large sums of money on the best players.
There are several tiers of clubs, and Real Madrid are in that elite top tier, reserved for the richest, most powerful and successful clubs.
That top tier hoover up the most talented players to create an elite football team on the pitch.
The tiers below realistically will never climb into that top tier, they might occasionally upset the applecart. Finish in the UCL places, win a domestic cup or even do a Leicester and win a surprise league title. Yet that success tends to be fleeting and often ends with their best players being picked off by those established top sides. Unless they get massive outside investment they will not change the established order. While the new rules actually make it harder for outside investment, further cutting off that remaining pathway to becoming a top side.
Yet, those sides in the lower tiers are vital to the overall success and quality of football. As those sides grow, improve and develop they are the ones that push the elite sides to improve further to stay ahead.
However, those sides do not have access to the same TV revenue (with the exception of the EPL), they don't have access to the same level of sponsorship, and they can't make anywhere near as much through merchandise. For many of them they rely on the funds they make through player sales. Either developing a youth player through their academy or by spotting a rough diamond player and polishing him into a top level player. Then selling them on for a huge fee to bring in money to reinvest in their club.
Theses clubs need and rely on the big fees paid by the elite sides for their best players.
Likewise the elite sides are rarely able to develop their own players consistently due to the need to win every game and perform at the highest level in every game. While that environment is often not conducive for a young player to develop in.
These clubs are needed to produce and provide the right space and environment for players to develop and reach their potential.
The elite sides need these clubs to continue the conveyor belt of top talent for them to sign and create their football dream teams.
What Real Madrid are doing by putting pressure on players to run down their contracts so they can leave for free undermines the whole system. It's an abuse of power and position.
While not breaking any rules or laws of the game, it is morally corrupt and threatens the stability of football.
I understand that the spiralling costs of players is staggering, and becoming a problem within itself. Personally I think this is a bigger issue for the smaller and mid-sized clubs who are being pushed to spend representatively more on players due to the incomes of the elite sides growing at a much quicker rate than the rest of the clubs.
When an elite side has a net income of 500m, then a 100m player represents a 5th (20%) of their income. Yet those clubs just below them might only have a net income of 150m, which means that 100m player represents two thirds of their income (66%) .
That is why the inflated prices impact those clubs outside of the elite teams more than those like Real Madrid.
There needs to be a solution to stop these spiraling costs, but it cannot be by all clubs adopting Real Madrid's current approach as that will lead to the financial collapse of those smaller and mid-sized clubs that prop up the entire football structure.
6.) 22 Jul 2024 10:32:16
Too right Ork. I’m no fan of PSG, but Real have had them right off.
7.) 22 Jul 2024 11:39:31
It's not a new approach, Bayern made a habit of that strategy with Lewandowski, Goertzka, Gnabry and Rudy. Is it morally questionable? Of course. But you also could argue that so are transfer fees in itself. I can potentially see a day where the 'Bosman' rule gets expanded and fees no longer exist.
I doubt anyone would've complained if it was us that enticed Mbappe, whilst lining up the likes of Yoro and Davies etc for free in future windows. I definitely would've been bragging about that level of influence to my Liverpool friends that's for sure.
8.) 22 Jul 2024 11:45:30
Not Gnabry I'm confused with someone else who I can't remember now.
17 Jul 2022 14:15:08
Question for Ed002 if you're around. Any chance of us making a move for Depay this summer if Ronaldo leaves?
{Ed002's Note - No he is heading elsewhere.}
1.) 17 Jul 2022 16:06:42
Where?
2.) 17 Jul 2022 16:55:07
Looks to maybe be Spurs?
3.) 17 Jul 2022 17:14:28
I would assume Spurs Fireman.
4.) 17 Jul 2022 18:10:12
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5.) 17 Jul 2022 23:41:54
Thanks, Ed. Think he’s ready for the EPL now, so can see him being a bit of a bargain for somebody. Shame it won’t be us. A front three of Rashford, Sancho, and Depay could be interesting. I’d much rather him than Anthony.
6.) 18 Jul 2022 09:42:13
He’s had two cracks at playing at an elite level with us and Barcelona and been found wanting. Plus the whole circus show that follows him. Not for me.
7.) 18 Jul 2022 13:45:17
If ever there was a player to sign for spurs it's Memphis, dunno why but he is the most spurs like player ever??.
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09 Nov 2025 04:24:12
Just saw a crazy stat.
So far this season we've conceded 20 goals, fifteen of which have come when Casemiro has not been on the pitch.
So I looked into the numbers a little more.
Cas has played 620 minutes out of a possible 1080. With him on the pitch, we're conceding a goal every 124 minutes. Without him, we're shipping a goal every half an hour (or 30.6667 minutes, if you want to be precise) .
I've mentioned a few times on the live chat how impressed I've been with him this season, but I hadn't quite realized just how important he's been for the team. The lad deserves tremendous credit, especially when you consider some of the criticism he was getting last season (some of which, I'm sad to say, was from me) .
1.) 09 Nov 2025 10:15:26
Agreed Casemiros performance levels have been impressive considering he was being written off for the past 2 seasons.
But the fact even with 1 game a week, he can’t complete a full 90 is not sustainable and from that stat of conceding every 30 mins when he's not on the pitch, that doesn't look good for Ugarte who was supposed to be his replacement, who is subbing on for him every game.
Not talked about enough how bad a signing Ugarte has been, cost £50m and we had to sell Scott Mctominay to fund the transfer.
2.) 09 Nov 2025 11:04:35
Casemiro had been phenomenal this season, especially for a players whose legs went last season.
The shift in tactics and team shape has really helped him, moving from a high press to more of a mid block, as well as the defence pushing up higher has meant he hasn't had to cover as much space as he did before. Which is definitely getting the best out of him.
The problem is that his performances start to dip after 60-70 minutes, and we need to be careful not to run him into the ground, so we do need to sub him off more and manage his minutes. The problem is that we don't have anyone else in our squad with the same profile as him. Meaning we have to play slightly differently when he's not on the pitch, which probably plays into us conceding more when he's not on the pitch just as much as the his absence affects us.
We desperately need to sign a natural replacement for him in January if we want to make the most of this season. In truth we need to sign two naturally defensive midfielders, one in January to rotate with Casemiro, and one in the summer to replace him as his contract is up.
The other issue with our midfield that is clear to see is that Bruno's performances are starting to trail off later in games. I can't remember exactly what the stat was but it was something like his defensive actions and distance covered are dropping by nearly two thirds after 60 minutes compared to before.
Bruno has played a lot of football, has hardly ever been injured, or missed a game for us. I think he's missed something like 17 games for us in nearly 6 years. There was even a couple of seasons where he played 96% of all the available minutes for us across the season for us in all competitions. That will start to catch up with him. While his new role playing deeper is also more physically demanding than he is used to when playing higher up.
The problem is clear, we lack depth in midfield, we play well when Casemiro and Bruno are fully fit and playing, but we drop off badly when they aren't playing or when they start to tire. Unfortunately Ugarte just doesn't seem suited to the EPL, he's got talent and skills, but he is a bit of a mad dog chasing wrappers in the wind. The transitional style in the current EPL leaves him chasing shadows, it requires someone who reads the game well and acts on where they know the ball will be rather than chasing where it currently is. While Mainoo needs to start being given more game time, I'm a little unhappy with his seeming desire to try and force getting game time, and his willingness to leave (even on loan) to get it. It doesn't show a real commitment to the club that have trained him and given him his chance. He's 20 years old, and probably wouldn't and shouldn't be a starter for a top club challenging for major honours. He still has parts of his game he needs to work on. That said I think we should be looking to introduce Mainoo in games around the 60 minute mark and even start him in a few games. Whether that is by giving Bruno a rest (which he will need) or by pushing Bruno higher up (where he can still be impactful even if he's starting to tire later in games) .
I think it's clear that Amorim would rather play Cunha as a false 9 over Zirkzee, so there can be times when we rest or sub Sesko where Cunha can be played through the middle creating a space for Bruno to play in that left side No.10 position making space for Mainoo in the No.8.
3.) 09 Nov 2025 12:23:10
I don't know if you noticed but there is a world cup in the summer lol, pretty clear why mainoo wants game time.
He literally started the knockout games in the last euros when england made the final.
Should be allowed to leave in January on loan in my opinion.
4.) 09 Nov 2025 12:43:06
You've hit the nail on the head shappy.
Casemiro going off at 60 mins leaves the team much weaker but it over looked that Bruno tires off around the same time.
i think a double sub of mainoo and ugarte coming on with casemiro coming off or Bruno pushing further up the pitch to make a 3 would be a big help.
5.) 09 Nov 2025 12:51:48
This not about mainoo england chances, this is about the team. If you don’t take your chance when you come on you don’t deserve to start.
6.) 09 Nov 2025 13:08:24
DSG, are you serious? You'll be happy going into the second half of the season with only 3 senior midfielders, two of which are over 30 and their performances start to drop after 60 minutes?
Amorim has said Mainoo needs to work on his endurance and mobility, that takes time. Months of training to build it up not weeks.
I fully expect to see Casemiro and Bruno tire more at the season wears on and as such their will be more game time available, it's down to Mainoo to prove himself when he gets a chance. Let's be honest, he hasn't played as well as either Casemiro or Bruno in the minutes he has had.
If a club wants to be successful then minutes have to be earned not given. Mainoo needs to step up when he gets his chances. So far this season he hasn't, that isn't on the manager that's on him.
He is very talented, and I understand his frustration. But he needs to develop the right mentality, running away from a challenge rather than rising to it is not the right mentality.
Wanting to leave on loan, what does it really say about him and where his head is at?
Effectively he's admitting he isn't good enough or he doesn't have the right mentality to earn the minutes at our club so he wants to go somewhere where it's easier.
If he wants to realise his potential he cannot afford to have that mentality. He needs to be a fighter, take the knock backs and use them as fuel to be better and to overcome those challenges.
Surely he's better placed to be successful here both in the short term and the long term. Surrounded by people who knows him, where he is comfortable and knows what he needs to do, where there is a plan for him. Moving to another club, even on loan brings as many challenges and potential pitfalls as it might minutes on the pitch.
What if his new manager sees him in trainings and decides he isn't right, or doesn't fancy him, what if that club changes manager and coaching staff, what if he doesn't settle at that club, in that new city or potentially new country, what if he picks up an injury.
He's a young player, a player who isn't the finished article, he shouldn't be focusing on short term aims such as getting into the England squad. He should be focusing on maximising his talent, and realising his potential. If he focuses on that then the short term things will fall into place.
From the rumours I've heard his agent seems to be the one poking the bear, trying to either get him a new big contract (which of course lines his pocket) or a big move (which again he will benefit from) .
Young footballers need to remember who they are listening to and what that persons motivations are. If he wants to be a great footballer he needs to listen to his coaches and manager, if he wants to earn more money then he needs to listen to his agent. It's that simple.
7.) 09 Nov 2025 15:47:06
Shappy. While I agree to a certain degree, I do think that Mainoo has a right to be a little peeved. He’ll improve through general training, but the thing that he needs more than anything else right now is minutes, and 138 of them so far this season just isn’t enough (especially when you consider Ugarte has more than double that) .
In an ideal world, we’d be wrapping games up early so that we can bring Mainoo on when Bruno and Cas start to get tired, but I can’t remember the last time when a game felt like it was well and truly won before the full time whistle.
I have a feeling Mainoo will end up leaving in the summer if things don’t change soon, although if his departure allows us to bring in two new CDMs who are better suited to Amorim’s system, that may not be such a bad thing. I’d love to see him succeed with us, but I don’t think he’s a good fit for the type of football the manager wants to play and he doesn’t seem too keen to adapt his game.
8.) 09 Nov 2025 17:15:54
Redseven, Ugarte has more minutes because he is more suited to replace Casemiro. Mainoo is better suited to replacing Bruno who tends to be able to last longer in games and is the captain.
It's unfortunate, but he will get minutes as the season wears on. He just needs to be patient, keep his head down and work hard with the coaches.
9.) 09 Nov 2025 17:35:56
John Reese, do you not think a lot of the reason that Bruno's level drops after 60 mins is because of Cas going off.
10.) 09 Nov 2025 18:45:42
Probably a bit banjoe.
Still think though he is just getting tired he's played a hell of a lot of football for us and isn't getting any younger either.
11.) 09 Nov 2025 19:11:36
I replied above to Maze's 709th login, when we replace CAS, we need to move Bruno either to the bench or up the field, it really is that simple. Mainoo with Ugarte can close out games as required. Yes they'll make some mistakes, but until we have more suitable replacements, we cannot play Bruno with either of them as we start to go backwards.
12.) 09 Nov 2025 19:22:24
Glad everyone caught up now and admit that Ugarte is not good enough, that took long enough though! I disagree that Bruno gets tired I would say he is one of the fittest in the team… have always said that Cass is best midfielder by a country mile, now everyone again caught up! Yippeeeee
We still need a decent experienced striker and wing backs like I said Dorgu is just not good enough.
But if RA is staying he needs to sort his in game management because it’s dreadful and getting no better…
Swapping out Rasmus for Sesko was not great business either…. Sesko is Raw as Rasmus, it’s flip of coin which one turns out better, but neither are what we need at the Mo.
01 Oct 2025 10:14:01
If we get rid of Amorim, I'd like to see us go back to the original plan of bringing in a Sporting Director. The man we should have given the job to last time (Paul Mitchell) is once again available.
Without a sporting director, I don't see the point in replacing the manager. We'd only end up back here in 12-18 months time.
1.) 01 Oct 2025 11:00:09
We have a Director of Football in Wilcox. There is far too much knee jerk reactions going on here.
2.) 01 Oct 2025 11:03:15
Surely this is what Wilcox is doing under a different title.
3.) 01 Oct 2025 14:39:21
That's wilcox.
4.) 01 Oct 2025 17:48:16
Then why did we bring in Ashworth when Wilcox was already in place? When Ashworth came in, it was to work above Wilcox, right?
Unless you’re suggesting that Wilcox has been silently promoted after Ashworth was fired, but then that begs the question, if Wilcox was good enough for the role, why wasn’t he given it in the first place? If management thought he was up to the task, why waste £10m+ bringing in and then getting rid of Ashworth?
5.) 01 Oct 2025 19:40:46
There.
6.) 01 Oct 2025 19:43:02
There was nothing silent about it. Your comments are incredibly childish.
7.) 01 Oct 2025 21:45:49
Wilcox was not in the position he is now when ashworth was hired. When ashworth was sacked, the club decided not to get another director of football but instead opted to give Wilcox the role.
Wilcox was technical director but is now director of football.
Like an organization, they felt they could promote from within. It's not unusual and there was certainly nothing silent about it.
16 Sep 2025 12:35:31
I'm not sure what Amorim did to piss Fabrizio Romano off, but the latter has been putting out near hourly posts about the former on his Facebook page since the City game. This includes him posting the same United manager win percentages four times in the past eight hours.
Obviously, it's a desperate bid to remain relevant now that the transfer window has closed, but it's ridiculous what Manchester United managers have to put up with, and rather pathetic that a so called professional journalist would try so hard to stir up negativity toward a fellow professional.
1.) 16 Sep 2025 15:21:15
its generally the same script when someone is going to get the bullet. Journos start pointing to stats, articles about players being unsettled/ mismanaged, club fully behind the manager until suddenly they are not in a blink off an eye lol.
I think we have 3 games before the next break, he needs a quality win either at Brentford or against Chelsea. Sunderland at home will not keep the barbarians at the gate.
At the end of the day even though it sucks, I can't really feel bad about it he has the worst record off any team in the league since taking the united job but the three teams who got relegated last year. A friend of mine sent me that today. He gets paid 6/ 7 mill a year to get results that are palatable.
Many post team line ups and formations and all kinds of tactical stuff that in their opinion will fix stuff and blast this player or that player but none of us are football managers. To date he clearly can't figure out how to get it done given his record.
2.) 16 Sep 2025 20:54:55
Win games and this noise disappears. He won’t even adapt his formation, he’s and absolute train wreck and i’m struggling to come to terms with another manager getting the bullet, but it just fumes me when they cannot see beyond the end of their nose and then they start talking absolute nonsense about how well they play.
Really he should have gone at the end of the season same as Ten Hag.
Yes yes we have a rubbish set of center midfielders. So yeh let's play 2 against Man City!
Play 3/ 4 midfielders and pack it out and get some defensive structure and get control of the games before starting to worry about winning, a draw is even a decent result vs them.
3.) 16 Sep 2025 22:07:21
Romano is a flog. And I will NEVER be convinced otherwise.
4.) 17 Sep 2025 04:29:58
Until fans realise that they are the ones creating this nonesence then we are destined to be the laughable fallen giant club.
It is only when you truely realise where you are and have the stomach for the journey ahead that you will truely be on the right path.
How many false dawns did Liverpool have before they found their way back?
I'm not even sure we made it past midnight yet. Anyone who thinks a formation or a new shiny manager will fix this, is deluded. How can a club recover when we give the players the power over the manager. It is dysfunctional and can't possibly work. This manager is too friendly. This one too strict. This one has no style of play. This one is too inflexible and won't adjust from his style of play.
News papers barf it out all over the fanbase and our fans lap it up like good little puppies and off we go again. 6 months of no faith in the manager. 3 months of rumours of who will be the new perminant appointment. He's not even had 1 year. Madness.
I would rather sell, loan or sit in reserves every player in the squad before I turned on yet another manager. He needs a midfield. He needs a special-ist rwb. He needs a striker who can score goals. He needs a goal keeper who instills some confidence in his defense. New players need time to gel. Prospects we bought will need a lot of time to develop. Some signings will fail.
We have to stick with a manger. We have to see a journey through and even if it goes wrong, we will be in a better place than we are now.
Aparently SJR thinks we should be top four with this squad. Perhaps the sackings should start there, because that is some grade A horse sh1t right there from a guy in charge of the reigns of our once great club.
5.) 17 Sep 2025 07:17:03
Mate Liverpool never played like this even when they were rubbish and did not spend like we have. Stop making excuses for this lad. They should have sacked him last year. He is fake and a mistake.
01 Sep 2025 10:59:44
For years now, I've seen fans and pundits rattling on about how we are where we are because of our owners, with their main argument stemming from the fact that so many supposedly great players and managers have repeatedly failed to deliver at Old Trafford due to the structure above them. But today, as we see yet another former United manager sacked (fair play to Leverkusen for realizing how woefully inept Ten Haag is so quickly), I can't help but think back to Jose's infamous football heritage speech.
How many of these players and managers that have failed to deliver for us have gone on to do better elsewhere? Di Maria and Ronaldo are probably the only two post-SAF players who have achieved anything meaningful after leaving us. Unless you want to count Moyes and Jose winning the Europa Conference League, none of our former managers have gone on to do anything remarkable either.
So while I'm not necessarily disputing the fact that things aren't quite right behind the scenes, perhaps our issue isn't with the structure failing to support our players and managers, but rather the structure bringing in players and managers who are past their best, unable to deal with the pressure of playing for a club of our size, or a poor fit for whatever it is we're trying to build.
1.) 01 Sep 2025 11:36:06
Are you suggesting that RA is ‘past his best’?
2.) 01 Sep 2025 11:36:27
Who picks these players and managers? They don't just magically turn up at old trafford.
Each of them signs a contract, ultimately counter signed by the ownership lol.
Come on this is basic stuff.
3.) 01 Sep 2025 11:46:31
So it is the owners fault then!
4.) 01 Sep 2025 11:50:11
So is reading, DSG, but clearly neither you nor Fizz has quite mastered that yet.
I closed my post with maybe the issue is that the owners are choosing the wrong personnel rather than failing to support them, as so many on here seem to suggest.
And Fizz, I clearly used the word “or” rather than “and” there, and was referring to managers and players who we’ve already parted ways with.
5.) 01 Sep 2025 12:17:52
Have u seen how many players they sold?
6.) 01 Sep 2025 12:30:53
redseven, I can read well enough, thank you. Perhaps that is a fault of yours and not mine. I quote you: ">>> but rather the structure bringing in players AND managers who are past their best. " To me, that reads as AND as opposed to OR. Funny old game.
7.) 01 Sep 2025 12:41:14
So your point is that there isn't a problem with the structure, its just there is a problem with the structure?
Got it lol.
8.) 01 Sep 2025 13:19:05
Thanks for proving my point, Fizz. Clearly, you have no idea how lists work either. It’s amazing how people can get by in this world with such limited comprehension.
DSG. For many years now, fans and pundits alike have gone on about how numerous successful managers have failed at United, with the one constant across all of their tenures being the owners, as if the structure is the reason why they all failed. My point was that not a single one of these managers has gone on to do anything noteworthy after leaving our club, suggesting that a lack of support from the Glazers and their underlings probably wasn’t the reason why things turned out the way they did.
Yes, the owners are the ones who sign off on all of our incomings and outgoings, but their hand is quite often forced. Take the appointment of Ole, for example. They would have been roundly criticized by fans if they hadn’t offered him a permanent deal after the start he made, especially if the manager they brought in instead had gone on to underperform. At that time, he was probably the right choice.
Ole wanted Maguire, Sancho, and Ronaldo (not Maguire, Sancho, or Ronaldo, Fizz) . Had we not signed them, the board would have been accused of not supporting the manager and then blamed when the manager failed. The same goes for Jose with Pogba, and Ten Haag with Onana. If they pay what’s needed to sign these players they get criticized for paying too much. If they move on to plan B or C, they get criticized for not bringing in the players the manager has asked for. They’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
The Glazers are a bunch of leeches, yes, and some of our post-SAF recruitment has been truly terrible, but I don’t think all of that can be pinned solely on the owners. Most of the managers they’ve brought in have been the ones fans were calling for, and they’ve spent a ridiculous amount of (the club’s) money bringing in the players that those managers wanted. With that in mind, I think it’s time that we laid this whole “no manager could succeed at United because of the owners” nonsense to rest.
9.) 01 Sep 2025 14:36:45
Lists? What lists? Where? What oblique bolloxology do you speak now? You're like a BMW driver who sees no need to use his indicators because he knows where he's going! Then chide folk for 'failing to understand what it was that you were trying to say'.
31 Aug 2025 01:38:11
Decent performance and a good result. Boy how we needed it.
The media seems to have fully turned on Amorim now. Sky's initial match report made it sound like we played terribly. Basically said that it was more of the same from the Grimsby match and that we were lucky to win. No mention of how we dominated them and should have been out of sight by half time, nor how they only got back into the game because of another howler from our keeper.
Even "influencers" like Romano seem to be having a pop now. Yes, it was our first win since May, but he conveniently fails to mention that we won our last competitive match of last season and have only played four in this campaign. You don't see him tweeting about how City have only won one game since May.
1.) 31 Aug 2025 06:39:47
Unfortunately our club is the biggest soap opera in football, and whatever happens, the narrative always generates clicks and revenue.
That constant spotlight is part of the reason why players struggle they’re under relentless scrutiny, not only for what happens on the pitch but also in their personal lives.
You only need to look at Amorim. He wears his heart on his sleeve, sometimes too honest with the media, and you can see the internal battles he faces. It’s no surprise that, under such pressure, he’s occasionally tempted by the thought of walking away and finding something that doesn’t take the same toll on his mental health and family life as the United job does.
On the pitch, the start to the season has been fairly solid, two strong performances against Arsenal and Burnley, a mixed one against Fulham, and a poor showing against Grimsby. Two tough matches lie ahead, but if we play like we did against Arsenal, we should pick up points and build some momentum.
As for the outside noise ignore it. Much of it comes from jealousy. If rival fans and the media put half as much energy into backing their own clubs as they do into berating United, the game would be in a much healthier place.
2.) 31 Aug 2025 09:21:39
That’s a good post Grim. Perfectly sums up our club. I’m as guilty as any, sometimes getting my knickers in a twist too easily.
I think we’ll have a rollercoaster with Amorim in charge, and that’s just his press conferences.
3.) 31 Aug 2025 09:22:20
The best way to make the noise go away is by putting in solid performances and winning.
The occasional win followed by number of vey poor performances is what he did last year. I honestly like the guy but very unsure he will make it and its his own doing let's be clear. His team, his set up, lots of players to choose from till yesterday, which seems like we have some injuries to worry about now.
Its a struggle and can't remember the last time I watched us thinking this is over in a positive way with 20 minutes to go. If anything many games with 20 minutes to go and I think we are done in a negative way and that's a strange new thing for me being a united fan.
4.) 31 Aug 2025 11:42:39
Redseven, it's always the way with our club, we don't have a blip we have unmitigated disasters. We don't have poor performances we shocking performances.
Everything with United is hyperbole, that's just the way it is. Unfortunately most United fans fall for it and are influenced by it.
13 Nov 2025 14:39:56
I would rather spend £100m on the right player than £50m on another Ugarte who is nowhere near good enough and needs to be replaced after two seasons.
Is Elliot Anderson the right player? I don’t know, but if the people in charge of signings are confident that he is then so be it.
10 Nov 2025 11:59:10
A part of me is hoping that they do refuse to pay the agreed upon fee, as given his form, I expect there’d be quite a few clubs willing to offer more to secure his services.
Sure, he says that he only wants to play for Barcelona, but if it’s a choice between a return to rainy Manchester and (let’s say) Italy, I suspect he’d go for the latter.
11 Oct 2025 12:44:51
Nothing could be worse than the Glazers and the debt they have saddled the club with.
If somebody agrees a deal with the Glazers, Ratcliffe will have the opportunity to match it. I’m still not completely sold on INEOS, though, so whether he does or he doesn’t, I’ll be glad to see the back of the yanks.
10 Oct 2025 15:50:24
If only this were true….
01 Sep 2025 13:43:44
The Saudis will probably take him, Danny. With any luck, he’ll realize that his goose is cooked at United and agree to move out there.
13 Nov 2025 15:06:52
I’d take Toney and Gallagher on loan, the latter with an option to buy. Toney would worry me a little, though. I saw some fan account on Facebook going on about what a great pairing he and Mbuemo were the other day, but I feel like it was only after the former went to Saudi that the latter really began to shine.
09 Nov 2025 15:47:06
Shappy. While I agree to a certain degree, I do think that Mainoo has a right to be a little peeved. He’ll improve through general training, but the thing that he needs more than anything else right now is minutes, and 138 of them so far this season just isn’t enough (especially when you consider Ugarte has more than double that) .
In an ideal world, we’d be wrapping games up early so that we can bring Mainoo on when Bruno and Cas start to get tired, but I can’t remember the last time when a game felt like it was well and truly won before the full time whistle.
I have a feeling Mainoo will end up leaving in the summer if things don’t change soon, although if his departure allows us to bring in two new CDMs who are better suited to Amorim’s system, that may not be such a bad thing. I’d love to see him succeed with us, but I don’t think he’s a good fit for the type of football the manager wants to play and he doesn’t seem too keen to adapt his game.
30 Oct 2025 15:29:48
I’m sticking with my pre-season prediction. We will win the league this year.
26 Oct 2025 11:27:29
He’s been good all season. Probably our best player. Sadly, he just doesn’t have the legs to play the full ninety minutes anymore.
As I said in the live chat yesterday, I’ve no idea who we could get in to replace Cas come the summer, but it’s a signing that we need to get right.
21 Oct 2025 09:27:22
Dio. I was joking, although looking at the results between us over the past few years, Liverpool have very little to brag about. Sure, there have been a couple of good thumpings here and there, but they’ve only won five of our last twelve meetings, with us winning four of the other seven.
Obviously, there can be no disputing who’s been the more successful team over that period when it comes to silverware, but they’ve hardly dominated us, like we’ve done to them on multiple occasions over the past few years. We won eight out of ten meetings between 2012 and 2016 and nine out of twelve between 2003 and 2008. That’s what dominance looks like, and the former came during our “banter” era.