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10 Mar 2020 09:24:42
Some interesting comments from Timo Werner today regarding the prospect of joining a team that's already competing or being part of something new. He supposedly name-checks us when talking about the latter.

It's possible that he only mentioned us to drum up interest and improve any potential offers he might receive from Pool, Bayern or City, but if he really does see some value in being a part of a rebuild, it certainly gives the management something to think about.

He looks like a very good player and would certainly add to the team although I expect he's Liverpool bound:

Any interest from United, Ed002?


{Ed002's Note - Timo Werner (S) RBL know of the interest of Chelsea who consider TW as a suitable replacement for Giroud - but they have other preferred options. Manchester United, Bayern Munich and Atletico Madrid remain keen - but this could change quickly depending on other targets clubs have - for example, if by some chance MU were able to sign a particular Free Agent or Ighalo for the summer then interest in TW would go - equally if other clubs were not able to sign their targets, interest in TW might increase. Atletico signing Cavani would likely kill off their interest. There is clearly interest from Klopp, but would Timo Werner be interested in a move to sit on the bench at Liverpool most of the time? If the answer is yes, or if Firmino is leaving then it makes sense. Many of the fans expect Klopp to add all of these players without anyone leaving and then completely change tactics and rotate them - it makes zero sense and the club has to meet Home Grown quotas as well. PSG are concerned about being shunned by Icardi and have looked at TW but have not declared any interest. Mr Mourinho is keen for Spurs to take him but there are concerns about the cost. The interest of Dortmund has gone with the signing of Haarland - but could return in the summer if Real Madrid could prise Haaland away. Bayern Munich were never going to do business in January and played down all transfer talk but there is no doubt that Robert Lewandowski, who will be 32 at the start of next season, is going to need replacing in the next 18 months - and the plan had always been that it would be Timo Werner - they could yet look to do something or perhaps suggest he waits another year at RBL who have offered a new contract. Last summer there was an approach from PSG who wanted Werner as a Cavani replacement - in the end Cavani stayed and they took Icardi on loan. The player has always said he wants to play for Manchester United one day but a move last summer was not possible and then Werner said he wanted tp play for Bayern Munich over all others. Now after a potential illegal approach he clearly wants to join Liverpool - the riot act has been read to him over public statements by both his club and Red Bull who are seeing him become a bigger and bigger jerk - and this constant talking about other sides will remove the interest of clubs like Chelsea who see it as unacceptable as he becomes more and more of a jerk. There was a third party trying to negotiate for a BM move last summer but they were a long way apart on price and RBL looked to extend. As BM were expected to need Werner this coming summer, a release clause was agreed with his new contract that would make him available at a low fee so RBL would keep him another year and then he could move to Bayern Munich next summer.}

1.) 10 Mar 2020 10:36:13
Wow, amazing detail thank you!

2.) 10 Mar 2020 11:07:32
Thanks as always, Ed.

Dries Mertens and Ighalo being looked at suggests that the club sees Martial, Rashford and Greenwood as the club’s future strike force and so are only looking for a short term solution while Greenwood grows into his game.

Martial and Rashford’s stats this season have been pretty impressive and Greenwood definitely looks like he could become a very good player. I wouldn’t say no to Werner and think he’d do a better job than Ighalo or Mertens whilst offering a long term solution if it’s decided that Greenwood or Martial aren’t upto scratch in a few years time, but our midfield and RW seem like much higher priorities.

{Ed002's Note - There is also interest in Dembele. You can almost certainly scratch Mertens subject to the issues currently hitting Italy being resolved, although the clubs are assuming it will be with Inter in London yesterday and today working on transfers for a couple of players. If the problems go away Mertens will likely sign a new deal. Ighalo would likely be open to providing cover on a more permanent basis.}

3.) 10 Mar 2020 11:11:06
Ed002, if I might ask, is the free agent MU are looking at in the summer Cavani?

{Ed002's Note - No, it is Mertens.}

4.) 10 Mar 2020 11:52:45
Thank you for the reply.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}



23 Aug 2019 10:17:25
A little confused by Ole's stance re Sanchez. Less than two weeks ago he was telling journalists that they would be surprised with how much he features this season and today he announces that the club are still actively trying to get rid of him. He needs to learn that sometimes it's best to say nothing.


{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation - it is about money and finding a taker. If that happens then he goes - but the club has to have the stomach to take a significant loss and his wages stay on the books. Ignore what OGS says.}

1.) 23 Aug 2019 20:54:49
Redseven ole is full of crap in his press conferences. All managers are.
You could pick holes in any of their statements as they often contradict themselves week after week. In fact they often do it in the same conference.
Ignore the lot of them. Its all BS lapped up by the gullible.

2.) 23 Aug 2019 20:04:47

I get the feeling that OGS is playing the role of good cop.

3.) 23 Aug 2019 21:46:24
Come on guys. Most of us think Sanchez need to leave including the manager and the club. Even if there is a player there, the fact Inter and Roma are in tells us what level he is at best. He’s passed it and it’s tine he left.

4.) 24 Aug 2019 11:22:16
Inter Milan are in the champions league. Not a bad level to be at.

5.) 24 Aug 2019 11:56:08
True that angel.

6.) 26 Aug 2019 15:37:26
It never ceases to amaze me how much faith and credence is put on what managers say to the media.



02 Sep 2014 12:25:08
Didn't think we'd be seeing any rumours so soon after the window shut - but slyspurts are reporting that a deal for Cleverley to go on loan to Aston Villa was agreed late last night and that the club are confident it went through in time.


1.) Hi Eds, its not easy to understand the terms of the Falcao loan deal. The option to buy for £50m next year dosent make any financial sense for a 29 year old. Surely EdWW will turn round and spend £50m elsewhere? I hope that's not the case, because i'd rather support the player properly in the next 4-5 years.

Have Monaco gone to any lengths to protect themselves from Falcao's depreciation over the next year? The £6m loan fee and £25million -( rvp's price at 29) next year is £30m.
£10m less than the ~£40m they can still demand at 28 years of age.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to the finances and someone has been misleading you with these numbers.}

2.) Lets hope so.Useless never utd quality

3.) FA have approved it. Option for Villa to buy for £7.5m in January.



31 Aug 2014 22:09:15
Guillem Balague seems to think that there is a deal in place which will see Negredo head to Valencia on loan and that City will look to sign Falcao to replace him. It's unclear at this point whether Real intend to increase their offer (which was originally a loan deal with a view to a permanent move) or whether Chico is being targeted as a cheap alternative.

Tancredi Palmeri seems to be the one reporting that we've put in a bid for Falcao - although he has been wrong on numerous transfers in the past. According to him, a loan deal was agreed between Real and Monaco but City came in with a bid of €40m upfront which lead to Monaco going back on their deal with Real. We then put in a bid for the player earlier this evening.

Apparently the player has ruled out moves to Arsenal and Juventus already and prefers a move to Real Madrid (he's mentioned his dream of playing for Real on numerous occasions). I suspect that Real will end up matching Manchester City's offer and he will end up there - but this is certainly an interesting scenario for tomorrow.

I'm not sure if there's any truth to any of this and am just passing on what Tancredi Palmeri and Guillem Balague have said online and on Revista De La Liga respectively.




31 Aug 2014 15:12:32
Ed002 - Do you know if we still have a interest in Cavani? I'd be very surprised if we moved for him - but with us potentially looking at signing a striker I figure he may be an option.


{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}




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08 Aug 2020 13:38:05
Juventus have sacked Sarri. Let's hope they don't try to lure Solskjaer away!


1.) 08 Aug 2020 13:58:23
I think we will be ok.

2.) 08 Aug 2020 18:38:48
Pirlo is the chosen man - not the beloved, manager with no trophy wins Pochettino.



26 Jul 2020 18:10:08
Hats off to Ole. He's taken a lot of stick and whilst I'm still not convinced he has the attributes required to take us back to the very top, he certainly has us moving in the right direction.

He has made a few good signings and at times has got the lads playing some decent football.

I'm excited to see who we bring in this summer and for the first time in a long time am looking forward to next season. There's still a lot of work to be done, but with the right signings, who knows!


1.) 26 Jul 2020 18:29:07
The title was never attainable. He’s done brilliantly to achieve third and provide a solid foundation to build upon. Well done OGS - great work.



17 Jul 2020 16:08:20
Question for Ed002 if you're around.

I recall reading a while back that Saul has a rather strange third party contract wherein he is 40% 'owned' by outside investors (Kenyon and Mendez iirc) .

Is the situation with Saul similar to that of Tevez and Mascherano when they first came to the Premier League and is it true that Atletico are obliged to give the aforementioned 40% of any amount that is bid for Saul even if the bid is not accepted?

I've no idea how much truth there is to the above (hence why I'm asking), but if there's any modicum of truth to it, would a deal for Saul be complicated due to third parties?


{Ed002's Note - Obviously you are on the wrong page but 40% of the player's rights are owned by a third party but there is no need for a separate negotiation. They are not paid unless a transfer is complete (I know it has been suggested before but it is incorrect).}

1.) 18 Jul 2020 08:26:51
Many thanks. I can see why third party ownership is not a thing in the UK.



17 Jul 2020 10:55:57
Ed001. Wondering if you could clear something up if you're around?

A lot of the questionable VAR decisions have been justified as having not been 'clear and obvious', which I think is fair enough and in keeping with the spirit of the game.

I was a little confused last night therefor when Ayew's goal was ruled out. As far as I could see, neither the ref nor the linesman signaled for offside prior to the decision being referred to VAR and whilst a few minutes of line-drawing seemed to show that Ayew was an inch or so offside, the referee's decision to award the goal was overturned.

I find it difficult to understand how Bruno's penalty last week was not overturned and Ayew's goal last night was as the former seemed to be a hell of a lot clearer.

What really blows my mind is how nearly one year after VAR was introduced to the league, referees are still not checking the action on the pitch-side monitors.

On the whole, are clubs happy with the implementation of VAR and are there any plans to change the way it operates as we move into next season?


{Ed001's Note - offside is apparently not involved in the clear and obvious as they say it is a matter of fact. Unfortunately that is a lie as it is not actually a fact due to the margin of error in the system being larger than the distance Ayew was ruled offside for, so he could in fact have been onside. VAR is just a mess, the wrong people are in charge of it. I mean Mike Riley is the guy who deliberately puts a Mancunian in charge of games involving Manchester and Liverpool sides in Anthony Taylor and similarly a guy from Merseyside in Mike Deane in charge of those games. And a Luton Town fan in charge of Watford games. Even if they are not deliberately or unconsciously biased, the choice to put them in charge of those games increases the pressure on them to a level that means they are going to make mistakes. That also means the officials, being under huge pressure, do not want other referees overruling their decisions and telling them they have made a clear and obvious error.

Thankfully changes are coming as FIFA are intent on taking VAR out of the hands of individual nations as Pierluigi Collina is so upset with the inconsistent application it is receiving. You only have to watch any Real Madrid game to see it is not just English footie that can't use it, Ramos blatantly dived to win a penalty last night and VAR agreed with the ref's decision to give it. I just hope Collina can sort it out.}

1.) 17 Jul 2020 12:07:56
Interesting and good to know that changes are abound.

I like to think that over the course of the season things will balance each other out and that’s certainly the case with teams that have been on the wrong end of VAR decisions / technology malfunctions against us (Villa and Palace most recently) . That said, whilst there have been a fair few poor VAR calls that went against us this season, they have tended to be at non-critical points in matches and have very little unify over the outcome whereas those that go our way often seem to come at times when we really need it.

I think there’s definitely big club bias at present and would welcome a change or better still, the whole system being scrapped. The stoppages really sapp the intensity out of games and the number of poor decisions render the whole thing pointless.

Do clubs have a say in implementation or is it all up to The FA / UEFA / FIFA?

{Ed001's Note - ask Sheff Utd about the bias! They have been shafted numerous times and very little has gone their way.

It was down to the PGMOL but now FIFA are looking to take control of it, the clubs have little say in essence. Other than voting whether to use it or not in the Prem.}

2.) 17 Jul 2020 13:01:59
Do you think it’s possible that they could simply vote not to use it next season?

{Ed001's Note - no, I don't think they will do so. I think they just want it sorted.}

3.) 17 Jul 2020 13:05:54
Hi ed1

I just wanted to ask what is your take on the Lindelof-Zaha penalty "incident" last night? There seems to be a lot of division on what should have been given and VAR's interception on the matter.

{Ed001's Note - it was a foul under the modern rules, one of those that you wouldn't expect to get without VAR, but that is supposed to be the point of VAR. I could understand if they actually stopped and looked at it closely and then decided it wasn't a clear and obvious error, but they didn't do that and that is where the problem lies. It is not about whether or not it was given, it is that they waste long minutes looking at other things and not others. The inconsistency is increasing, when VAR was meant to fix the issue.}

4.) 17 Jul 2020 13:57:16
But do you agree with the modern rules then ed1? A similar incident on the playground wouldn't be given as a penalty I would think; without much debate.

Also is it just me or has there been less favourable decisions for home teams since the restart? I think referees haven't been as giving towards home teams without the pressure of the home fans I think.

{Ed001's Note - I am old school, so I love the tackle flying in and winning the ball, whether it catches the player afterwards or not. So I struggle with the new rules. The game is going a bit soft I think but that is the way it is and you have to abide by the rules or play (or watch in this case) something else.

It is hard to tell but yes it probably should work the way you are seeing it. I see refs are making excuses about tiredness now for the errors they are making, while the PGMOL itself is releasing statements about how they got every decision right a couple of nights ago. I don't know why Mike Riley is such an arse, but he truly is a complete and utter (add your own word here as mine is unprintable).}

5.) 17 Jul 2020 14:50:25
Ed001 the game is changing before our eyes. Not always for the better imo.

{Ed001's Note - agreed.}



17 Jul 2020 01:53:41
Interesting position we find ourselves in now. In theory, the West Ham game doesn't really matter if we beat Leicester by a few goals on the final day of the season which makes me wonder whether Oli might rest some players.

I suppose there's an argument to be made that Spurs might do us a favor and take some points off Leicester (meaning a victory in the West Ham game would leave us only needing a point against Leicester), but even in the best case scenario, we can't afford to lose against Leicester and resting a few key players over the next week would certainly decrease the likelihood of that happening.

Whilst Leicester playing first gives them an advantage as they'll be fresher, it does give Oli a chance to plan ahead when setting up for the West Ham and Chelski games.


1.) 17 Jul 2020 07:58:55
gotta love a good end to a season with something to look forward to.
The good is only 3 between us and leicester, so if we are even on points then and beat them by 2 goals we are home and dry. Just need Moumou and Liverpool to do us a favour. Arsenal beating liverpool may drive both tottenham and liverpool to get wins in the next game.

2.) 17 Jul 2020 08:56:25
I’m not banking on Liverpool doing us any favors, RLF. They’re dead on their feet and have been for five months now. They have nothing to play for and with Mane and Salah plotting their summer moves, I can only hope that they don’t lose too badly as our goal difference is still better than Chelski’s.

The only positive is that Lampard will probably rest players for the cup tie as he will see Liverpool as a very winnable game and a good chance for them to cement top four.

3.) 17 Jul 2020 09:02:54
Interesting theory but I don’t think we can afford to lose to West Ham as if Leicester win we’d need to win by at least three goals against Leicester (or more depending on the margins of win/ loss in the penultimate games) .

If anything, batter West Ham by enough that a draw against Leicester would be enough, put the onus on Leicester to attack us and nullify their counter attack with our own.

A West Ham win tonight should put them mathematically safe by the time we play - every little helps.




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11 Aug 2020 00:14:53
I expect a deal can still be done if we match their original asking price, but if Dortmund are smart they’ll flat out refuse to negotiate any further and just wait until EW gets desperate.

I feel a little sorry for EW as it’s a tough call as to how to approach this one and he’ll likely end up catching some flack for the way he handles this whatever he ends up doing. Part of me thinks he should have just paid the asking price straight away and got the deal done, but I also appreciate that it’s this kind of behavior in the past that’s lead to us getting bent over a barrel with every deal we make.

Ultimately though, I expect we’ll end up caving somewhere down the line and offering the full amount, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if Dortmund stick to their guns and keep him for another year (although I guess this might depend on whether or not Sancho pushes for a move) .




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04 Aug 2020 04:30:14
Best of luck to him. It’s a shame things didn’t work out for him at OT.




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31 Jul 2020 06:35:06
I think now is the time to bring him in CSF.

The C.V. puts us in a very strong situation financially as we are one of few clubs with cash to spend this summer.

We might end up spending a lot, but waiting until next year would likely mean other big clubs like Real and Barcelona are in a position to rival us for his signature and in that instance, I see him moving elsewhere (even if the fee is lower) .




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30 Jul 2020 13:28:12
Both can be very good on their day and under the right circumstances could excel in the premier league. If it were a case of signing one of them or signing nobody, I think they could do a job for us, but there are plenty of players I’d hope that the club will be looking at ahead of them.




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28 Jul 2020 08:04:53
Not for Inter it doesn’t. We need to get Sanchez off the books as his massive wages are a burden on the club. I doubt we’ll be asking for a large fee (if any fee at all) and will be looking to get rid of him whilst paying him as little as possible. Why would Inter give us one of their best players in exchange for a player who we would probably give away for nothing if push came to shove?





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11 Aug 2020 15:37:51
I’d have probably taken Rashford off instead of Greenwood, but the introduction of Mata certainly had a positive impact on the game - so it worked, I guess.

It was definitely a better choice than bringing Matic and Lindelof on at 70 minutes when we needed a goal to avoid extra time, but again, it’s hard to be too critical considering we got the result we needed. Lord knows if he hadn’t made that change and we’d conceded he’d have been torn apart though.

I wouldn’t want Ole’s job.




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10 Aug 2020 12:29:37
Haha. Saw that earlier Scoob. Would love it to be true, but if a deal had been agreed I doubt Sancho would have flown out to Switzerland today for Dortmunds training camp - especially as he was in the UK yesterday.




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10 Aug 2020 10:27:13
I guess we’ll know soon enough.

It’s difficult to say whether they’re bluffing or not. Certainly if they’re able to convince him to sign an improved deal there’s seemingly no reason for them to sell below what they value him at this summer.




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09 Aug 2020 16:33:14
Erm. Reduction in the number of games? Has a system been discussed as to how this might work?

This could potentially have a huge impact both at the top and bottom of the table if we end up in a position where team A might have to play Liverpool and City twice while team B only plays them once and has extra games against Villa and Newcastle instead (assuming both teams are competing for the same spot) . I can only assume we’ll end up with a system like the SPL where the table splits in half at some point and each side of the table plays extra games against teams in the same half.

Does this mean that Premier League teams will only play 28 league games each next season?


{Ed002's Note - No, you have missed the point. There is no reduction in PL games.}



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08 Aug 2020 07:41:26
A salary cap on elite athletes will never happen in the UK. There’s some debate as to whether it’s even legal to restrict what a person can potentially earn in this way, but I doubt we will ever find out as the top clubs would do everything they could to block it and pretty much all top flight players would be against it. Whilst other clubs might be keen on the idea in principle as it could help to bridge the game between the haves and have nots, they would also be very weary of the risk of a salary cap pushing the bigger clubs into a breakaway league - which would ultimately hurt the smaller clubs a hell of a lot more than salaries remaining uncapped ever could.