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23 Aug 2019 10:17:25
A little confused by Ole's stance re Sanchez. Less than two weeks ago he was telling journalists that they would be surprised with how much he features this season and today he announces that the club are still actively trying to get rid of him. He needs to learn that sometimes it's best to say nothing.


{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation - it is about money and finding a taker. If that happens then he goes - but the club has to have the stomach to take a significant loss and his wages stay on the books. Ignore what OGS says.}

1.) 23 Aug 2019 20:54:49
Redseven ole is full of crap in his press conferences. All managers are.
You could pick holes in any of their statements as they often contradict themselves week after week. In fact they often do it in the same conference.
Ignore the lot of them. Its all BS lapped up by the gullible.

2.) 23 Aug 2019 20:04:47

I get the feeling that OGS is playing the role of good cop.

3.) 23 Aug 2019 21:46:24
Come on guys. Most of us think Sanchez need to leave including the manager and the club. Even if there is a player there, the fact Inter and Roma are in tells us what level he is at best. He’s passed it and it’s tine he left.

4.) 24 Aug 2019 11:22:16
Inter Milan are in the champions league. Not a bad level to be at.

5.) 24 Aug 2019 11:56:08
True that angel.

6.) 26 Aug 2019 15:37:26
It never ceases to amaze me how much faith and credence is put on what managers say to the media.



02 Sep 2014 12:25:08
Didn't think we'd be seeing any rumours so soon after the window shut - but slyspurts are reporting that a deal for Cleverley to go on loan to Aston Villa was agreed late last night and that the club are confident it went through in time.


1.) Hi Eds, its not easy to understand the terms of the Falcao loan deal. The option to buy for £50m next year dosent make any financial sense for a 29 year old. Surely EdWW will turn round and spend £50m elsewhere? I hope that's not the case, because i'd rather support the player properly in the next 4-5 years.

Have Monaco gone to any lengths to protect themselves from Falcao's depreciation over the next year? The £6m loan fee and £25million -( rvp's price at 29) next year is £30m.
£10m less than the ~£40m they can still demand at 28 years of age.

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to the finances and someone has been misleading you with these numbers.}

2.) Lets hope so.Useless never utd quality

3.) FA have approved it. Option for Villa to buy for £7.5m in January.



31 Aug 2014 22:09:15
Guillem Balague seems to think that there is a deal in place which will see Negredo head to Valencia on loan and that City will look to sign Falcao to replace him. It's unclear at this point whether Real intend to increase their offer (which was originally a loan deal with a view to a permanent move) or whether Chico is being targeted as a cheap alternative.

Tancredi Palmeri seems to be the one reporting that we've put in a bid for Falcao - although he has been wrong on numerous transfers in the past. According to him, a loan deal was agreed between Real and Monaco but City came in with a bid of €40m upfront which lead to Monaco going back on their deal with Real. We then put in a bid for the player earlier this evening.

Apparently the player has ruled out moves to Arsenal and Juventus already and prefers a move to Real Madrid (he's mentioned his dream of playing for Real on numerous occasions). I suspect that Real will end up matching Manchester City's offer and he will end up there - but this is certainly an interesting scenario for tomorrow.

I'm not sure if there's any truth to any of this and am just passing on what Tancredi Palmeri and Guillem Balague have said online and on Revista De La Liga respectively.




31 Aug 2014 15:12:32
Ed002 - Do you know if we still have a interest in Cavani? I'd be very surprised if we moved for him - but with us potentially looking at signing a striker I figure he may be an option.


{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}



28 Aug 2014 11:42:46
Aston Villa have bid for Tom Cleverley and Crystal Palace want to take Zaha on loan with a view to buy.


1.) I have a real good feeling we will sign two more midfielders this window. Many players leaving.

Zaha - Cleverley - Kagawa - Hernandez - Welbeck - Anderson - Lindegaard - Rafael - Varela - Fellaini - Vermijl - W.Keane.

Can we find them all a club though? Not long left now and so much to do. Doubt all will go, many will depend on incoming players too. Then there's the loan outs too.

2.) Cleverly is a very Aston Villa type player

3.) Yh
Zaha has left for Crystal Palace now on loan

Hopefully he does well!

4.) 28 Aug 2014 12:25:15
Redseven. U must take this opportunity to drive cleverly to villa park by yourself. Just to make it sure that he won't come back without signing there contract

5.) I will give cleverly a piggy back to villa park myself and strap him to the villa park gates and throw away the key

6.) We will sign Vidal and Blind.

7.) 28 Aug 2014 13:10:30
Syd I highly doubt all of those players will leave Fellani is injured so unfortunately isn't moving, I hope rafeal stays unless we can get another RB in which I doubt. i'd keep welbeck due to his age he can stil develop loan would be good!

Who do you think we could get syd hope we get a midfielder and cb those two positions are i'm urgent need of attention if we want champions leauge this season. Who are our cb targets?

8.) Mo21, there will be a massive clearout, that has been confirmed by EW. Also with only around 40 games (Max) left to play and no UCL money, MU will want to cut costs and there's no point having players in the squad that won't play.

9.) It's fine saying that United want rid, Syd, but if no-one wants them, they'll have to stay.

10.) SOSM, exactly, couldn't agree more.

11.) Talk is that Villa's bid of £8m has now been accepted.

I feel sorry for the lad given the amount of stick he's gotten over the last few years - but ultimately he is not a Manchester United player. I think he will do well at Villa and wish him all the best for the future.

12.) Also worth noting that the #23 shirt is now vacant. Hopefully it's taken up by another #23!




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15 May 2019 02:50:19
Sly Sports reporting that if City were to receive a Champions League ban this season and Arsenal were to win the Europa League, we would be given City's Champions league spot.

Not sure how much merit there is to this idea as it's seemingly new ground and City will no doubt appeal which would probably push the ban into the following season, but that would be embarrassing if it came to pass.

Don't get me wrong, if City are found to have cheated the system, they should be punished, but to be playing in the Champions League next season based on our season would be farcical.


1.) 15 May 2019 13:10:43
Cheated or not, we do not deserve to be in CL with this timid mindset when playing. I would rather give it to Wolves who are far more adventurous and a greater unit as a team.

2.) 15 May 2019 17:30:24
Wolves finished below us. If City went out and someone else was to be awarded it, we would deserve it. The league is meaningless otherwise.

Disclaimer: This does not mean I think we're a great team or that we deserve Champions League over the teams above us.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is not going to happen and there is no precedent for this.}

3.) 15 May 2019 19:29:33
That’s why I said “if”. I was dealing with the hypothetical. Of course it’s not actually going to happen.



25 Apr 2019 15:50:50
It's shaping up to be a very interesting summer. The only players that I can say will remain at the club with any certainty are Sanchez due to his terrible performances and ridiculous wages and Dalot, Lindelof, McTominay, Shaw, Romero and Lingard. Fred will probably get another season to prove himself too, but other than that it seems to be fair game.

Martial is unlikely to go but could still be on his way due to his poor performances and attitude this season and Valencia, Bailey, Rojo and Darmian seem to have been earmarked as surplus. If we really want to be playing at a high level, Young, Jones and Smalling should follow.

Mata and Herrera seem likely to leave on free transfers and Rashford, DDG, Lukaku and Pogba seem to all want out.

I expect we will hold onto a few of those players so as not to upset the balance of the squad any more than is needed, but there are 14 first team players that I wouldn't be at all surprised to see leave. That's insane. I think we're in for some dark times (more so than the ones prior to SAF leaving) .

What's more worrying is that there isn't a single player at the club who I would genuinely be disappointed to lose.

For the longest time that was DDG, but he clearly doesn't want to be here anymore and it's starting to affect his performances. Likewise, players like Pogba, Martial and Rashford have the potential to be world beaters, but due to their poor attitudes look unlikely to realize that potential at United. The rest, as nice as they may be, haven't done enough to suggest they will ever be as good as some of the great players that we've seen over the past few decades. Maybe VL - but it will take more than a good six months to convince me.

How has this been allowed to happen in just five or six years?


1.) 25 Apr 2019 16:40:27
At this stage of the season no one knows our best starting 11 not even the manager, and last night an hour before the teams were announced, our starting lineup was leaked not that it made a difference but where did it come from.
And just to dampen things that little bit more the first time since 1962 we lost 7 out of 9 games and I bet redman can't even remember that.
Players, managers, chairman none of them at the races.
All I know is that it's going to be a long road ahead.
Anyone have something positive to add, I'd love to hear it.

2.) 25 Apr 2019 17:02:41
Bailly is not for sale but the rest of yhe players you are suggesting are sellable.

3.) 25 Apr 2019 17:05:30
Agree with all of your post apart from having lingard with the remains. I honestly do not see what he offers us, he doesn’t score he doesn’t create. He runs around a lot I do see that.

4.) 25 Apr 2019 16:52:06
whatever end. Where is the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing? They have passed like rain on the mountains. Like wind in the meadow. The days have gone down in the West, behind the hills, into Shadow. How did it come to this?

5.) 25 Apr 2019 17:50:59
Now mort thanks, I like that.

6.) 25 Apr 2019 19:01:59
We are not in a good spot that's for sure.
But every cloud has a silver lining.
This summer we should rid ourselves if at least 6 or 8 of this squad.
No top 4 ddg and pogs are gone for sure. Valencia mata herrera will have no contracts and surely rojo and darmian will be sold.
As you say there are question marks over lukaku jones bailly and sanchez.
We simply can't sell everyone this summer.
As my friend leahy says its going to be a long road. I can't wait for the season to end so that we can begin a new one. Like 99.99% of you all i'm signed up for life and it doesn't matter how difficult things become we will always stand up for o your club.
I want to see the club wrestled back from these waste of space players that play for themselves think only of themselves and have no respect for anybody but themselves.

7.) 25 Apr 2019 19:43:27

Ha, no I don’t remember 1962, only from 1968. However, I am surprised the stat is from before the relegation season and the couple of seasons running up to it.

8.) 25 Apr 2019 20:47:59
September and October 1962 redman,
I'm surprised as well redman.
Red some time if we ever meet I'd love to hear your stories about united in the late 60s and 70s,
Can only go back to remembering the 80s myself. I'll even buy you a coffee.

{Ed007's Note -


9.) 25 Apr 2019 21:10:06
Bond lol your invited, we could write a book if you came along.

{Ed007's Note - I think the Hindus have covered that with the Kama Sutra but you get tore in lad.}

10.) 25 Apr 2019 21:37:49

Ha, Lots of stories, the seventies were so so different for Manchester as a city and the club. I will never forget being in the stands when Law back heeled that ball for City in 1974 or later in the seventies walking down the tunnel (when it was in the middle of the pitch) right behind Steve Coppell (who was last out) after I was let in to the dressing room area. You could hear the roar of the crowd as the players would hear it.
Perhaps many of us should meet up, over to the Ed’s to arrange, may need bouncers for some though!

{Ed007's Note - Ed001 & Ed002 and some of the lads from the Liverpool site hold an annual charity match that anyone can take part in but it sounds a bit like a bunch of Suvern Softies meet up to drink shandies, compare their fake tan, EA7 clothes, BMWs and shout "BREXIT MEANS BREXIT" - I wasn't invited after I asked if we could sing The Rebs and bring pyro. #NoPyroNoParty
Seriously though if any of you want to get in contact with each other for pint Ed033 (The Pimp Daddy) can put you in contact with each other. Ed004 can be the bouncer, he's from across the water and on the steroids.}

11.) 25 Apr 2019 21:42:15
Leahy its from Lord of the Rings.

12.) 25 Apr 2019 22:51:05
Didn't know that mort even though I watched it, we need no bouncers we are all grown men, well I seen Ken and he is only about 4ft5😊,
But it would be nice if we arranged something for next season.

13.) 25 Apr 2019 23:00:22
I wqnted to play but think i might be too late for this year. Best of luck guys to those involved.



31 Aug 2017 09:03:05
Anybody looking for something to brighten their day should go and check out the Liverpool page.

Just in case the fact that many of their fans still consider the club to be the best team in England wasn't a clear indicator of their inability to count; there's an interesting thread discussing how to fit their new signings into the team in which somebody suggests a 3-5-4 formation - going into far too much detail for it to be a joke.

The icing on the cake is where another poster points out the idiocy by questioning whether 12 players would now be allowed by the F. A.


1.) 31 Aug 2017 11:10:39
I think the 12 players comment was a joke something your shower don't seem to quite comprehend. the original comment was indeed idiocy at its finest 😂.

2.) 31 Aug 2017 12:09:07
What a useless post by redseven. The replies to that thread were all sarcastic because one poster could not count. Why do u say 'their'? Or do u feel the need to call other people idiots or illiterate just because they support LFC? You wanna entertain yourself, go out and see what the outside world has to offer.
Oh yeah, and no LFC fan considers LFC to be the best in England. We just expect to challenge for the title if we sign Lemar and VVD, otherwise a top4 finish looks the best bet. Get your facts right before spouting dog turd.

3.) 31 Aug 2017 12:43:04
Wow feeling sore there boys. Is it the realisation of almost 30 years without a league title sinking in. No challenge this season either.

4.) 31 Aug 2017 13:16:35
John Barnes; the 12 players comment was a joke - but the fact that the poster had once again failed to use basic addition (3 + 5 + 4 + a goalkeeper is 13) was anything but intentional!

5.) 31 Aug 2017 14:52:47
If the sign vvd then they can challenge. But city and Chelsea are better.
Aoc signing is a joke and especially at that price.



10 Jun 2017 13:00:44
Am I the only one worried about the weaknesses across our squad at the moment and the number of signings needed to get us close to the level of Europe's best?

With Zlat and Rooney leaving - we desperately need to sign a number nine (one could even argue that we were in need of another one last season even before the aforementioned left the club) - and even then, looking at their performances under JM, I wouldn't be overly confident having just Rash and Tony M available were the new signing to pick up an injury.

I've read some people on here suggesting that signing both Morata and Belotti wouldn't be the worst idea in the world and am inclined to agree (perhaps not on those signings in particular - but that having 4 options up top wouldn't be such a bad thing considering 2 of them are often played out wide) .

Our midfield needs work too. We currently lack a real out and out wide player - which if we're going to play with wingers - leaves us needing two (one at the very least) .

If we're going to play with a narrow midfield and rely on the wing backs for width instead, I think we need to start thinking about a new right back (Jose doesn't seem to rate Darmian and Tony V is getting older and not great in the final third) and a new left back seems to be on the clubs shopping list already (Shaw hasn't been the same since his injury and Jose just doesn't seem to fancy him) .

The centre of our midfield is in decent shape although I'd like to see a defensive minded midfielder come in to allow Pogba to play a little further up the pitch and reduce our reliance on the wig (whose better suited to elbow boxing than he is football) .

Rojo, Smalling and Jones are far too inconsistent and Blind should be considered cover at best - so I think we need a new CB too (and looking at our injury problems last season Is be very surprised if Jose isn't on the lookout for one) .

Assuming we play a narrow 4-3-3 with inverted wingers - that leaves us needing 5 signings (6 if DDG leaves) to plug all of the gaps.


1.) 10 Jun 2017 14:31:52
Cb will be lindelof he is also an excellent right back. Morata appears to be close but we have been here before! Perisic looks like the winger he can also play left wing back and left back but is better as a winger.
Fabhino for dm is the clear target he can also play right back.
Belotti would be a real bonus but imo if we sign him i think martial or mata could be sold to help balance the books.
If wig goes we could well move for matuidi but i doubt it.
Left back is a concern mendy looks set for city or chelsea rose is a long shot but possible or a young Spanish Lad martins.
Ibra rooney smalling blind and darmian i think will be sold and maybe 1 or 2 of mata shaw wig martial depending on our success at achieving our targeted signings.



30 Jul 2016 14:20:38
Not exactly a binding contract; but Pogba signed a United fans 'Pogba 6' shirt while in America.


1.) 30 Jul 2016 16:15:33
fed up hearing about pp now.




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29 Jan 2020 01:47:12
Rock the red - his wife might fancy being a beach warmer in Barcelona though.




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12 Dec 2019 00:54:03
Hi Ed. Thanks for the info. As always, it’s very much appreciated.

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I’m a little confused by your attitude towards coaches.

When fans wanted Moyes, LVG and later Mourinho to be replaced, you branded them toxic, but I have seen you post a few times that you think OGS should be replaced. I’m curious how you come to this assessment.

Performances and results were not great under Moyes, Mourinho and LVG, but at least with OGS we have occasionally seen good attacking performances. The others also had more time before fans started to get in their backs. Is it your view that established coaches should be given more time to succeed regardless of results and performances (and that OGS simply isn’t good enough), or was it the manner in which some fans were calling for managers to be removed that lead to you calling them ‘toxics’?


{Ed002's Note - MU have a generally ill-informed and toxic fan base who know little about how the club is run yet make embarrassing and irrational attacks on individuals which make them a laughing stock. They have driven out coaches with their hate and have now ended up with someone who is simply not up to the job. The fans are largely responsible for the downfall of the club over recent years and deserve the situation the club is now in. You reap what you sow.}



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06 Aug 2019 10:37:24
I quite enjoy the chaos of the transfer window. Providing we end up with the right players once the window has shut, I’m happy to go along for the ride.

I’d still be happy with Dybala providing he cane for the right reasons and gave his all. I can’t blame the lad for looking for a big pay check, but am a little worried by how big the numbers we are hearing are.




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05 Aug 2019 14:57:33
I’d be very surprised if we went for Rakitic. We seem to be targeting young, hungry players who will be in the side for years to come. Rakitic would be expensive and would
need to be replaced in a year or two.




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05 Aug 2019 14:55:11
I really hope not. Another player with serious attitude problems who has struggled in both Germany and Italy since leaving Ukraine. He’s missed about half the available games each season and has a pitiful goals return considering he has been playing for the dominant team in each league. I wouldn’t be happy signing him full stop, even if the deal was forty million + Costa for Lukaku. A straight swap would be a terrible deal for us.





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28 Feb 2020 03:10:32
Giggs, Shearer, Henry, Terry, Gerard.

Difficult question. I could choose 20.




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20 Feb 2020 14:56:55
Salzburg were asking for €80m, but given the choose of selling to Dortmund for the €20m clause or selling to another club for $20,000,0001, they’d be idiots for not taking the larger chances offer. We could have picked up for significantly less than the €80m they were asking for.




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15 Feb 2020 13:14:13
Hi Ed. With City looking to rebuild parts of their squad this summer, do you think you will try and prolong the appeals process so as to push the ban to the 21-22 and 22-23 seasons or will they want the matter resolved as soon as possible?

One has to imagine that UEFA are fairly confident that the CAS will deem the evidence admissible for them to have gone ahead with their investigation and so despite City seeming confident that they’ve done nothing wrong, the ban seems likely to be upheld.


{Ed002's Note - It is not something they can control.}



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28 Jan 2020 15:54:52
Looks like the writing is on the wall for Ole now. I feel bad for him because he hasn’t had the backing that a club like Manchester United should be giving managers. Nothing spent last January, minimal net spend in the summer once you consider outgoing players and nothing this January either.

To be clear, I never thought he was the right man for the job but if you’re going to keep a guy in the hot seat in spite of his clear lack of ability (this in itself is probably the most baffling part), the least you can do is support him in the market.

If the club don’t trust him going forward, he should either have been moved on already or at the very least his replacement should have already been lined up and be in a position to advise on what kind of player he’d like so that we can get them in and settled ready for next season (not to mention boost our slim chances of qualifying for next season’s Champions League) .

Had the club already appointment somebody to oversee transfers (as they seem to have been talking about for years), the uncertainty over the manager’s future would have little impact on our transfer plans.

I don’t work in football and am sure there are many elements I don’t understand, but from the outside looking in, it seems as though the people in charge have about as much knowledge of how to run a football club than I do, if not less. Shambles.




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10 Oct 2019 16:39:47
Wow. This is probably one of the best discussions I’ve read on this site in all of the years I’ve been frequenting it and certainly the most interesting since performances on the pitch went down the crapper.

I’d love to see the young players given the chance to step up but think we need to strike the right balance of experience and youth. That players like Giggs, Becks and Scholes could all break in to the first team the way that they did is clear evidence that you can succeed with youth, but there are some key differences between then and now.

For starters, our team was full of leaders who the youngsters could both learn from and rely on to shoulder some of the burden of scoring and creating chances. Who exactly do we we have to fulfill that role now? Mr. I haven’t scored or assisted a goal in nearly a full calendar year Lingard or the ‘world class’ player that doesn’t turn up most weeks? Players like Rashford (and to a lesser extent, Greenwood) are being placed under tremendous pressure and being asked to carry out a role that is clearly beyond them.

Add to this the strength of today’s league and I really don’t think it would be possible to break in that number of youngsters in a top team in this day and age. Just look at Foden at City. He’s one player with a lot of potential that’s struggling to get a kick and we’re trying to break in four or five? Liverpool and Klopp have done a much better job of this over the last few seasons and Chlelsea too this season are showing that it is still possible, but both of these sides still have some very talented and experienced players.

I don’t think Zlatan is the answer, but I do think there needs to be some experienced players brought into our midfield and strike force and am not too worried about them ‘blocking’ the path of our ‘talented’ youngsters, as as we are seeing now, they aren’t ready to be starters just yet and may never be if they’re not nurtured and given the chance to learn from experienced players and sheltered from the burden of expectation.