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27 Jul 2020 10:12:15
Does jack grealish helping villa stay up make it easier or harder for a deal to be done to sign him up?

DSG

{Ed002's Note - It makes no difference.}


 

 

29 Jun 2019 17:16:16
Rashford close to signing a new deal.

Great news.

DSG

1.) 29 Jun 2019 18:07:02
Yeh fantastic.


2.) 29 Jun 2019 18:58:18
Good news he’s committing to a new deal altho if reported figures are true i'm not sure why he would get 250k a week plus at his age where do you go from there. Another massive contract for a young player that needs to prove he's worth half that. I guess i'm just a old f****r and despise the over paid nature of these young lads who have done nothing within the game. Personally if have said score 30+ goals this season we can talk about a wage increase.


3.) 29 Jun 2019 19:12:09
Who knows if that reported figure is true and who cares how we personally feel about how much he earns. The key point is that its all relative.

If sanchez is on what he's reported to be on then rashford has every claim to earn as much as he can. he's done more for this club in the 10 games he played under lvg than sanchez has ever done for us.

Martial and shaw just got new contracts and i assume a pay rise, rashford deserves it more than them.

Most posters on here in the last third of the season becried the lack of players who put the required effort in and have the desire to improve themselves. Rashford has both those qualities as well as technical abilities that few in his age range can match.


4.) 29 Jun 2019 19:34:56
Shouldn’t be on three times what Wan-Bissaka has paid. He’s equally as unproven over a sustained period of time.


5.) 29 Jun 2019 20:03:17
Great news if true he has every chance of being the focal point of this new young team we are building.


6.) 30 Jun 2019 09:59:16
This is clearly nonsense. It’s all gone to his head and he is holding the club to ransom for £300K a week isn’t he?


 

 

08 Jun 2019 12:13:05
A few reports coming out now that united are getting frustrated and are surprised by the fees involved in signing british young players.

Have they been living under a rock for the past 6 or 16 years?

I completely understand that they have certain valuations for players and if they are quoted over that then they should back away in most circumstances and move on to other targets.

But prices for young british homegrown players have always been at a premium whether its rio ferdiand, andy carroll or kyle walker and i would be baffled if this was surprising them.

DSG

1.) 08 Jun 2019 13:07:43
There’s no doubt a Manchester United tax is added to the value of any player we approach.

Daniel James being the perfect example. We are paying twice the fee Leeds were quoted only four months ago.


2.) 09 Jun 2019 02:52:55
Rooney Rio Andy Carroll sterling Walker

The list goes on homegrown cost a hell of a lot more.


3.) 09 Jun 2019 08:28:29
Except Rooney and Rio were worth every penny for our club!


4.) 09 Jun 2019 09:38:35
Very true Eric. As is Sterling for City.

Imagine what Scholes would be worth today 🤔.


5.) 09 Jun 2019 12:36:56
AT Wazza finally someone who really rates Scholes as high as me, if we had a player like Scholes in our current squad our defense wouldn't be as exposed as it has been the past years, he is what i would call MAESTRO. one of those players that don't get recognize in England but are truly hard to find.


6.) 09 Jun 2019 15:22:58
Remanutd he’s exactly the type of player we need. You see Rashford making so many runs but the ball moves sideways.

I remember a game we were losing, playing badly and Scholes was brought on. It was the end of his career. But he collected the ball four times and each time he passed the ball forward. He was so aggressive with his passing, fast and direct.


 

 

01 Apr 2019 13:13:09
So duncan castles reporting that herrera is off to psg.

Does anyone agree to the clubs stance not to fold to his wage demands?

Who does that leave as our second best midfielder at the club? Michael carrick?

DSG

1.) 01 Apr 2019 13:37:08
I agree with this stance but the club also need to stop giving into demands of someone like Sanchez who's on double what Herrera wants.


2.) 01 Apr 2019 14:11:32
Is that his wages freed up to pay DDG what he wants?


3.) 01 Apr 2019 14:33:48
I agree. We need to commit 30m plus for a squad player approaching 30. Nah. Rock on free up the wages for a better player.


4.) 01 Apr 2019 15:03:43
Ken why let herrera go the likely scenario would be we would have to spend minimum of 50m to replace him with inflated fees. Plus wages on top there's plenty on more than him that should be shown the door before him. can't fathom how jones got a new deal and herrera didnt.


5.) 01 Apr 2019 15:12:01
why are we giving the likes of Jones and young new contracts but herrera letting go.

ddg still has another season but still its a joke. you keep your best players.

other than arsenal who have also a reputation to losing players this doesn't happen anywhere else.


6.) 01 Apr 2019 15:32:14
We aren't 'letting him go', this great player who everyone loves and loves the club is holding us to ransom over his wages, he isn't half as good as he thinks he is and could easily be replaced. Thanks for the good times Ander, but you are never going to be in a premier league winning first team.


7.) 01 Apr 2019 16:07:54
so is DDG holding us to ransom?


8.) 01 Apr 2019 16:10:47
I'm in two minds. Its a lot of money for a 30 year old that could be better spent. But then its another signing we'll need to make to replace him which maybe lessons what we can commit on other signings.


9.) 01 Apr 2019 16:29:40
Reports saying Utd won't offer more than £170k pw. Probably £50k too much being offered already for me.


10.) 01 Apr 2019 16:51:19
I agree with the club on this one. 170k a week sounds more than reasonable. If ander wants more that's his perogative.


11.) 01 Apr 2019 17:56:24
Bolger,

Yes, but he’s our best player and we would struggle to replace him with someone of the same quality so he will probably get what he wants, I don’t think anyone is under any illusion that De Gea hasn’t already tried to leave once, he’s just bloody good so we let him off.


12.) 01 Apr 2019 20:23:13
Why would PSG want him Rabiot cannot make there side he’s about 2 levels above Herrera,


13.) 01 Apr 2019 20:31:26
Jamie79
They maybe see something you don't?


14.) 02 Apr 2019 04:32:02
So just out of curiosity, who would you guys replace Herrera with who is an improvement and who also will cost less than 200k a week in wages?


15.) 02 Apr 2019 05:51:26
Personally I would break the bank for Saul Niguez.
He can take the midfield as well as the whole team to next level.
He can pick intricate forward passes like Pogba. Does excellent work off the ball.
And he is just 24. Well worth the investment.

{Ed001's Note - and he can cover almost every position on the pitch as well. I do not understand why no one has already broken the bank for him. It is not like he has just emerged, I can remember suggesting him as one of the players I would want Liverpool to sign when he was 17. So he has been about and looking top class for a long time.}


16.) 02 Apr 2019 06:36:31
Agree Ed. Not many consistent top quality midfielders around.
There are rumours linking him to City which is a real worry.


17.) 02 Apr 2019 13:34:18
Herrera is one of our better players, and there is no chance we will get a replacement of the same standard on less than 200k wages plus a hefty transfer fee. We can't afford to not give him the contract he wants, as doing so will cost us more than giving it to him.


18.) 02 Apr 2019 13:42:40
There is no point in giving 200k wage for a 29 year old who can pass only side ways. He may not even be a regular in the coming seasons.
And then we have problems with salary cap out.
So overall, it is a huge risk.
If we continue this, Next Smalling will ask for 200k a week contract.


19.) 02 Apr 2019 23:31:43
Who know. people who worry for extra expenses needed to replace him, need to think may be if Rabiot coming our way in free. in our wage budget? None of us know. But if Ole is taking this decision, then he must have calculated this. Now we can expect 2 new CM to come in.


20.) 02 Apr 2019 23:40:58
Completely agreed ed1. The worst decision Ed wayward has made in my view is cancelling the transfer plans in the winter window before LVGs sacking. We were meant to have a meeting with Atleti with regards to Saul. For me Saul is the best all round CM in the world. If not for Kante, Saul would be the best midfielder IMO.


 

 

20 Jan 2019 16:47:59
According to report, we have triggered the year option in darmians contract, he will go to juventus on a lon with an option to buy.

I assume that valencia has enough fitness to see this season out then leave on a free in the summer.

Young will probably get an extension leaving dalot shaw young and fosu mensah as our full back options next season unless we bring someone in.

DSG

1.) 20 Jan 2019 18:02:33
Tfm will not be in our squad next season as a full back option. If ww don't bring a full back in i expect the 4 would be mitchell shaw young and dalot.
Interesting that he cose to play dalot on the left yesterday when shaw fell ill instead of young.
It shows that both young and shaw can play either side adequately.


2.) 20 Jan 2019 21:59:14
Not good enough options in my opinion. Shaw is playing better, I'm happy with him as my first choice atm, with young and depot as cover. We need a top class rb because we have nothing down the right. I like depot but not sure if he's ready to be first choice just yet. We could do with someone who's about 29-30 in their prime for a couple of years till dalot is ready. That and a top centre back and we'd have a good foundation to build from.


3.) 21 Jan 2019 06:06:29
Shaw and young for LB. Dalot and a top right back at peak for RB.


4.) 21 Jan 2019 06:26:16
Wan Bissaka.


5.) 21 Jan 2019 11:38:07
I would like to see us go for Milenkovic to play at RB with Dalot as cover. He's young but can also play central. I would also love us to see if Mbappe can be prised away from PSG given their financial woes. Imagine a front three of Rashford, Martial and Mbappe!


6.) 21 Jan 2019 12:29:49
I woyld rather we brought in a RB and a LB. Mitchell is not good enough - offer money for Kieran Tierney and that's LB sorted, he has the potential to be the best LB in UK. At RB we need someone who is ready to go, Perreira would be my choice but I am sure there are plenty options.


 

 

 

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03 Dec 2020 11:04:43
Ole's decision to keep fred on would have made some sort of sense if:

1.) We were only allowed 3 subs amd he wanted to keep his powder dry to put greenwood on later or wait and see on mctominay, martial, rashford and telles, all who have had injury issues.

2.) We had the midfield options of last season where the back up centre mids for mctominay and fred were andreas pereira.

But the reality is we had 5 subs so plenty of room to make a change and we also had matic, de beek and pogba on the bench. He could also have put bailly or williams on and gone to a back 5 if he wanted to take the draw and seal qualification.

DSG

1.) 03 Dec 2020 11:48:03
DSG - he is dreadful, what's even more worrying is that he still backs his decision regarding Fed. I am sick or him, we are not going forward under him. He's had two years now and we are no better than we were with Jose.


2.) 03 Dec 2020 12:34:09
Lost ball twice in 2 minutes. First one they scored, second he got sent off. Absolute shambles of a player.


3.) 04 Dec 2020 01:54:16
He loosed the ball before their second goal exFZZ?


 

 

23 Nov 2020 11:58:05
I know this is the manchester united page but it was good to have some football on free to air tv.

Got to watch dominic calvert lewin play a full 90 minutes (apart from the game against us), have only watched highlights this season of his goals.

Have to say, very impressed with his overall game, can play 1/ 2 touch, very good first touch and just keeps it simple, plays it out wide, then busts a gut to get into the box. Also looks like he's put on 10kg and developed physically, remember he used to be like a twig for a couple of his early years.

makes me wonder when we last had a striker like that, zlatan is one of my favourite players post fergie era but even he spent most of his time on the halfway line instead of the box.

Lukakus touch left a lot to be desired although i did always feel like he tried hard and still think he's a top striker in the right system

Lastly martial, i am starting to lose faith in him and I've always defended him but he just doesn't look like scoring goals is the be all end all for him, more than happy to drift through games and not contribute.

If so hell have to settle for back up left wing to rashford.

DSG

1.) 23 Nov 2020 12:26:09
I think a top top CF would make a real difference for us right now. A Shearer, Owen, Wright would be perfect but there aren't many of them knocking about, and knowing us, we're probably looking for another LB or AM.


2.) 23 Nov 2020 12:40:15
Martial is not my favourite as you know😂 I've seen a lot of people become disenchanted with him recently that had always supported and rated him.
For me him and pogba would be the 1st 2 out the door ahead of any others.
Talented lad but not sure he is a good fit for the epl. He is here 6 years now and all we keep hearing is he will be fine once he gets a run of goals. but i just don't see any long term hope for him here. Unless when we get a new manager he responds.


3.) 23 Nov 2020 12:58:52
Martial is the worst example of the inconsistency we have. He can we amazing but sadly far too rarely. We're waiting for him to claim the No 9 shirt and he seemed to step up last year but he hasn't got going at all this season.


4.) 23 Nov 2020 12:47:04
agree with that ken pogba and martial need to be moved on.

pogba for obvious reasons,

martial is just lazy, doesn't make runs into the box and doesn't look arsed most of the time

cavani has done more than him when he has come on.

martial is not going to get any better.


5.) 23 Nov 2020 13:06:45
Our first choice front 3 got 63 goals last season . I would take that again this year.


6.) 23 Nov 2020 13:24:00
I think when martial is in form he is just about good enough, but at the moment he is out of form and that means he isn’t quite at the level, his languid style makes him look like he’s not trying and I think his frustrations at not getting a goal are causing him a few issues. I wouldn’t write him off just yet as I think he will go on a run of goals soon enough.


7.) 23 Nov 2020 13:26:43
Considering martial is struggling with form, greenwood is being taken out of the limelight and rashford looks to be playing with an injury, i highly doubt that will happen jred.

It is possible to simultaneously appreciate and praise what that front 3 did last season but also be concerned with how they're performing this season.

I know its still quite early but after next week well be 25% of the way through the league season and they have a combined total of 2 league goals between them this campaign.


8.) 23 Nov 2020 14:46:21
He had a good year last year but other than his first year, he's been very patchy. Even Lingard gad a good year, unfortunately if we want to get back to competing we need people who do it most games, not 1 in 10. I jus don't see him as a clinical centre forward ho is going to do it consistently.


9.) 23 Nov 2020 17:37:31
Wasn't Cavani signed to be the big strong number 9 who can hold the ball up and bring other players into the game whilst scoring plenty too?


10.) 23 Nov 2020 19:09:00
I would do anything to get Haaland. He dies for scoring goals.
Always hungry and determined.


11.) 23 Nov 2020 20:50:42
Martial has all the talent in the world to be a top striker, he is quick, technically gifted, strong enough and decent in the air, and when presented with a chance he is the coolest guy in the stadium.

However, what holds him back is his mentality. He was great in his first season, then he lost his No.9 shirt and Zlatan came in. Whether your view is he sulked or he just couldn't deal with the pressure of a top striker breathing down his neck doesn't really matter. The result is the same thing, when pressed his form drops off.

Well then Zlatan left and Lukaku was the main man, Martial stayed on the periphery of the team. A talent, but not showing it often enough. He's young, he's playing out of position. We're the legitimate excuses at the time.

Then Lukaku was sold and Martial is made the main man, he is given his No.9 shirt and the support of the manager. He then kicks on and plays well, has his best goalscoring season for us. The only blemish was his niggling injuries.

Then over the summer we sign Cavani and the pressure on Martials starting spot intensifies. Just as it does true to form his form dips again.

I want Martial to be a success, but it might be time to admit he might not have the mentality to be a top player at a top side. Which is fine. Many great players are better off as big fish in a small pond.


12.) 24 Nov 2020 16:24:24
I believe that we need two up front.
Cavani is clearly class so he should start when fit and either Marcus or Mason to play off him when he wins the ball in the air. Martial is a good player but he is not suited to playing alongside someone. He can either dribble or play one twos but that is it. Ideally we need a target man and a sharp shooter.


 

 

05 Nov 2020 12:09:44
MEN reporting that the club have made contact with pochettino with a view of replacing Ole as the next manager.

Any of the eds know if this is actually the case?

DSG

{Ed002's Note - It is not quite as clear cut as that I am afraid.}


1.) 05 Nov 2020 12:43:33
Poch is available, won't need to pay Spurs anything but does Poch even want United before we get to do United sack Ole and approach Poch.


2.) 05 Nov 2020 13:19:11
Ed002, am I right in thinking that should Poch take the job here, he'd want certain assurances?

{Ed002's Note - As I have explained before, Pochettino is smart enough to make demands - whether Manchester United would accept them if there was such an approach, is another matter.}


3.) 05 Nov 2020 13:33:50
I guess that will be the first of many articles. I wonder why Ed thinks it isn't as clear cut, I am guessing some at the club don't want to part with Ole just yet.


4.) 05 Nov 2020 13:42:52
Ed002, presume there is strong interest from other teams and he may spoken with them? Understand if you don’t want to say.

{Ed002's Note - Right now Manchester United has a manager.}


5.) 05 Nov 2020 13:54:40
Ed02 - are you able to expand at all please?

Have we actually made any approach to Pochettino? You'd think another loss against Everton could be the end for Ole.

{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that there has been a general discussion with a third-party - and no more.}


6.) 05 Nov 2020 13:55:36
I dare say Poch would want to see changes to the structure of the club before he took over, insisting on a DoF, less interference from the amateur management structure and the ability to bring his own people in - which would mean the politically sensitive issue of clearing out lots of Man Utd legends (ie Carrick, Ole, etc)

Plus also the club not wanting to be seen as a sacking club if things get difficult.

I’d love to know more from the omniscient Ed002 if he has any spare time - or inclination - to add further details about why bringing in pocketino is not such a simple thing to do.

{Ed002's Note - I would ignore your thoughts about a DoF.}


7.) 05 Nov 2020 14:25:41
I want ole out of the club. But he is the incumbent its hard to discuss these things while he is still here sure to sensitivity and confidentiality.
I suppose patience is the order of the day. Its hard but we will just have to wait and see.


8.) 05 Nov 2020 14:26:13
Thanks Ed002, that’s a relief as can't see them making concessions on that one.

Maybe Poch will seek assurances on the ins and outs of players.


9.) 05 Nov 2020 15:36:30
Not exactly sure on what the Spurs set up was but didn't Levy control transfers there? I know ed001 has alluded to poor recruitment by Poch when be eventually was tasked with it, guessing Levy stepped back, perhaps Poch was unhappy he didn't have more of a say at Spurs and would seek assurances at United. My issue is the club will prob give Poch them assurances and still nothing will change.


10.) 05 Nov 2020 16:26:55
If i remember correctly Pochetino is very happy to not have a DOF as he himself likes to have a lot of control over transfers - i may be off the mark but sure this was mentioned by Ed a few years back.

{Ed002's Note - He is happy to work without one.}


 

 

28 Oct 2020 13:47:29
“Teams' defensive pressing plans are now so specific, clubs like Bayern and Liverpool treat them like trade secrets - and don't let people in to watch drills. ”

From an article in the independent, does anyone think we have a pressing plan?

When i watch us defend i hardly see us press as a unit, sort of like pistons in an engine, everything seems to be set up so we sit back and defend deep.

Its easy to say the players don't try hard enough or they don't want it enough but i think were a quite a long way off the top teams when it comes to coaching a pressing team.

DSG

1.) 28 Oct 2020 14:34:03
There isn't much evidence to show we have a coherent plan when it comes to pressing as a team.

One thing I've noticed and mentioned previously is Wan Bissaka's press very high up the pitch. It's generally why he is sometimes out of position and will end up costing us at some point. When the ball is played out to a left sided opposition player, Wan Bissaka either has the instructions or just makes a decision on his own to press this player much higher up than the rest of the defensive line. Like I say, not sure if it's a tactical thing or just something he decides to do on his own.

On the subject of pressing, Leipzig will be a tough task tonight. Our play out from the back through any of the usual back four is suspect and they will likely be pressed heavily tonight.


 

 

22 Oct 2020 14:56:51
Troy Deeney on Fred:

"I think Fred, whenever you play against him, we certainly did it, you let him get it [the ball] as he has to take three or four touches, " "He doesn't know how to take one or two touches.

"Anyone who watches his game will notice he gets it [the ball] facing the wrong way, turns, turns, chops and gives you the ball.

"It is the truth. If anyone studies football you will know that. When they are sat in and they are waiting, you know that there is one person is the trigger, and it is him. "

I think deeney is spot on here, Fred is very good without the ball, pressing the ball, covering ground, winning the ball back. It explains why he performs so well when we sit back and play on the counter attack.

Can he learn to control a football properly and play one/ two touch? If so he could solve our missing piece in holding midfield and take over from the ageing matic.

DSG

1.) 22 Oct 2020 15:23:40
Ed001 spotted this problem about Fred and pointed it out almost 2 years ago on this page. Kudos Ed!

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I am not surprised he is used as the trigger for a press, I would certainly have recommended that the first time I saw him play.}


2.) 22 Oct 2020 15:55:41
Fred is like a 12 year old in an under 10 team. Can be smart and play the right ball, but knows that he has 10 more seconds against the opposition.


3.) 22 Oct 2020 15:49:47
Could i be greedy and ask for a match review for the PSG United game Ed001?

{Ed001's Note - I didn't watch it mate, or I would happily do one. I was busy doing the news review at the time as we were supposed to be recording the podcast later but then the podcast got delayed anyway.}


4.) 22 Oct 2020 21:49:33
Deeney is right but I don’t know why he needs to come out with it while he’s still playing himself.


5.) 23 Oct 2020 00:11:51
fred just needs to say i play in the prem. were are you now and then show him his brazillian.


6.) 23 Oct 2020 00:31:44
Funny isn't it. He just played a major part in us beating - this time good value for money aswell- one of the more feared teams in europe.

Then this quote from chuffing Troy Deeney crops up from last year! Madness.

Fred was instrumental in defensive games in a double pivot against many top teams, him and McTom have done this several times. Man City and PSG probably the pick of the bunch.

Good lad, good squad player.


 

 

 

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14 Nov 2020 20:39:32
Considering we keep playing juan mata right wing and let him drift infield and link up with other attackers, it isn't outside the realm of possibilities that dybala could do a similar sort of role.

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19 Oct 2020 19:25:53
Who plays centre back then?

Back 3 of awb, lindolf and shaw or

Axel to play his first game back away at psg?

Jones and rojo not included in the squad, which is still a good thing even with hardly any fit centre backs lol.

DSG

 

 

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16 Oct 2020 12:16:03
It worked pretty well last season post lockdown.

I can't think of a single player who has played well in the league for us this season.

DSG

 

 

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16 Oct 2020 11:19:35
“Pauls head is elsewhere, he has wanted to leave for the past 3 summers, didn't see eye to eye with previous manager like a lot of the squad. Paul is not focused on doing his best for us, i'm sure hell excel elsewhere in the next couple of years”.

Probably closer to the truth but ole is hardly gonma say that in his press conference.

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14 Oct 2020 19:43:04
Regardless of the footballing side of things, whether it undermines ole or makes it look like were harking back to the past etc it doesn't make sense from a health point of view as he's surely in the high risk category from CV 19 given his age and previous health concern.

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04 Dec 2020 16:46:38
Yh there's plenty out there, just look at man city and liverpool, sane, mahrez, b silva, sterling, salah, mane and jota have all played right wing at some point. Of course the likes of sterling and mane have moved to the left but have shown themselves to be more than capable of playing right wing.

The reason why manchester united haven't signed a decent right winger is because we have been deluding ourselves in recent years that we do not need a right winger. Season after season over the past 5 years we persist with juan mata playing right wing or jesse lingard.

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04 Dec 2020 12:08:57
Win on saturday and a result on tuesday will calm everyone down.

Tuesday can't be overstated how big a game it is, going back into the europa league will rightly show the lack of progress that is being made under ole. Combine that with no clear style of play, i could see our season petering out like 15/ 16 and 18/ 19 did.

Fact is no one can argue that this squad is not good enough to make the knockout stages of the champions league and be in the top 4 of the premier league.

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30 Nov 2020 12:51:52
Sancho, primarily because haaland will eventually end up in spain, most likely madrid.

Whether that's straight from dortmund or using another club as a stepping stone is less clear.

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29 Nov 2020 11:05:32
Liverpool and city didn't have too much trouble finding them in fernandinho/ rodri or fabinho.

The reality is the type of holding midfielder will depend on the style we want to play.

If we want to play out from the back and dominate the ball possession we will need a carrick type who is comfortable playing 1/ 2 touch and can pass the ball forwards whilst being intelligent to fill in gaps to stop counter attacks.

Where as if we want to continue to play sit back counter attack and hope for the best type of football then we will need a workhorse who can win the ball back but is limited on the ball, i.e fred.

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25 Nov 2020 11:11:41
I think its a bit too hasty to declare the midfield selection solved after last night.

I mean if mctominay is fit for sunday, i expect ole to bring him to come back and replace vdb to provide more defensive solidity or matic will come in to [artner fred if mctominay is not fit.

VDB is a quality player, intelligent, can play 1/ 2 touch, great technique. Fred has the work rate and covers an immense amount of ground but neither of them really have the passing range that the commentator you referred to was having a dig at.

Pogba has that range of passing but his tendency to slow things up and his lack of defensive work rate just really can't be excused anymore so it makes sense to move him on.

DSG