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20 Aug 2022 10:40:45
Maguire and Mctominay linked with moves away.

Could be a clever way for the club to recoup some relatively decent transfer fees because of the british tax and the perceived “Pashun”value.


1.) 20 Aug 2022 11:35:07
The so called "English tax" has nothing to do with how they play or passion, but everything to do with both having to have a number of "homegrown" players, and the perception that clubs want to have by having players from their own nation playing for their side.

PSG want to have top French players, Italian clubs want the best Italian players, Spanish clubs want the best Spanish players, German clubs want the best German players, and of course English clubs want the the best English players.

There is a premium on English players simply because English clubs are among the wealthiest in the world, and there is a serious lack of top end English players. Simple supply and demand.

2.) 20 Aug 2022 16:33:56
What would seriously be a worthwhile fee for Maguire? Even half what Utd paid would be daylight robbery. I think there are some qualities in there but he is so devoid of confidence right now like many Utd players. I think he’d be a better player without the burden of the red shirt which draws so much press.

3.) 20 Aug 2022 17:20:28
The reality is that Maguire was made to look the business by Jonny Evans - a player deemed not good enough.

Then, with confidence on a high, he translated that form to the England team.

Since at United, he's played mainly alongside Lindelof who is mid-table level with full backs who don't offer decent protection and a midfield that cannot deal with pressure.

Ultimately, if he was surrounded by better defensive players and wasn't so relied upon to organise, he'd perform better.

I still don't think he's at the level we'd like, but he's far from the worst defensive member of the squad and has seen his greater urgency render him, from the outset, more culpable.

Shaw, imo, is one of the most overrated players I've ever seen, just like McTominay - they both, along with Dalot, AWB and Telles, have failed their defensive teammates consistently.

4.) 20 Aug 2022 23:33:53
Woggle I hope you were trying to wiggle in some banter because wtf.

5.) 21 Aug 2022 02:21:43
If the deal for Pulisic does indeed never materialise or is just click bait can we send them Maguire anyway to say sorry?

6.) 21 Aug 2022 08:34:15
Keefy, sending them Maguire as an apology is akin to throwing a brick with a note attached through your neighbors window to apologise for kicking your football into their garden.

7.) 21 Aug 2022 09:28:56
Woggle. Maguire messes even simple passes to GK. He will be found out even if he plays in all time great teams. AWB can do a solid defensive job in right back. He may be very useful as a sub in seeing off tight games after 70 mins or so.

8.) 21 Aug 2022 09:58:28
Would be more pleased to see Luke Shaws name on the list tbh, can’t wait to see the day he leaves.

9.) 21 Aug 2022 11:31:50

Maguire is most certainly not good enough, I basically believe he's made to look even worse by other people.

AWB is a truly awful defender.
Just because he has better lally-flapping ability, it does not make him a decent defender. His reading and positioning are absolutely pathetic - he should be the first guy to go.

Couldn't agree more, Shaw is pish.

Ultimately, United have spent £160m on the aforementioned three and their combined value now would be half of that at best.
United have 7 defenders out of 10 senior options - AWB, Dalot, Williams, Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof and Bailly, who are simply not good enough to be starters. That's the problem, at least one player who isn't good enough will need to start.
Selling Maguire would make me happy, but does it solve our problems defensively?
No, because we'd still have to play Lindelof or Bailly when Varane isn't fit and we'd still be reliant on 3 RB options who are all mid-table level.

As for this consensus that, in light of how poor he is, Maguire must be our worst defensive option - bollards!

AWB is easily the most incompetent defender I've ever seen at United.

We need another RB now, and will need at least one more CB before we can think about selling Maguire who, whilst certainly not good enough, is no worse than Lindelof or Bailly.

10.) 21 Aug 2022 12:23:47
United's squad problem is simple to understand. Imagine there are two boxes. Box one is labelled technical ability and intelligence. While box two is labelled physical ability (pace/ power) .

Now go through the squad list and place each player in the appropriate box based on their best aspect.

Now step back and realise box 2 is overflowing and box 1 has very few players in it, while there are probably only a couple of players who could go in either box.

Any manager who has tried to get these players to play as a team with intelligence, adhering to a tactical plan based on making smart decisions and technical ability rather than playing on instinct trying to outpace or overpower the opposition with physical traits has failed miserably to do so.

This is simply because this group of players lacks the technical quality and intelligence to play that way.

11.) 21 Aug 2022 13:20:45
Realistic transfer fee for Maguire
Half a bag of Hola Hoops and 3 jellybeans. Although I'd feel we we're robbing the other club blind.

12.) 21 Aug 2022 13:23:41
Props to the Shappy, that's the most perfect yet, frustratingly, simple way of explaining why United's squad is so disjointed.



01 Jun 2022 09:52:47
Hi Ed002, you mentioned on the Everton page that Richarlison could be offered to Real Madrid or Man United through his agent.

Do the club have any interest in signing him?


{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

1.) 01 Jun 2022 11:37:11
Lets hope. not.



19 May 2022 23:12:00
Dean Henderson to Newcastle?

Makes a little bit of sense as a permanent move if we need to bring in money.

But doesn't make much sense as a loan deal, if were being honest newcastle will potentially be challenging for europe next season, doesn't make sense to strengthen a rival.


1.) 19 May 2022 23:26:24
Think I’d prefer Dubravka….



18 Jun 2021 18:24:36
Reports that ole is going make a definitive decision on the number 1 spot and has opted for Henderson.

Not an easy call to make and leaves the club in a tough position with DDG.

An alexis type loan deal most likely for him I assume if he wants first team football next season.


1.) 18 Jun 2021 22:23:23
The sensible decision.

2.) 19 Jun 2021 07:32:32
The sensible decision in what way? DDG has been a loyal servant, Henderson has had one good season at Sheff Utd and has more market value. Just because it’s the decision you’d make doesn’t make it sensible Shappy. Think i speak for many on here when I say the sooner you realise that the better.

3.) 19 Jun 2021 07:37:47
What are the loan options, most clubs seem settled in the goalkeeping department, and then there is the matter of his £375k a week wages to cover.

4.) 19 Jun 2021 07:57:45
Thats why its going to have to be an alexis type deal where we pay a fair chunk of the players wages while they play for their loan club.

5.) 19 Jun 2021 09:21:28
Red Whiskey, DDG has continued to decline every year for the past 3 seasons. That is not a blip but a clear pattern of decline.

Currently Henderson and DDG although having different strengths and qualities are probably on par.

So if you have two keepers, on a similar level, but one is declining while the other is improving then surely backing the keeper who is on the up is the sensible thing to do.

DDG has been a loyal servant and he has been paid handsomely for it. He is the highest paid player in the league, yet he isn't even in the top ten best players in the league currently. He has also had a little dig at the club in a post wishing Romero the best. Saying that Romero deserves to be treated well by his next club. He might be 100% right in what he is saying. Yet to publicly back a player leaving the club over the club doesn't look great.

Personally given that it will be hard to sell DDG this summer then loaning him out seems like the best and most sensible decision.

That way both keepers understand their role and it removes the indecision that has impacted both of their performances this season.

Henderson gets a shot at proving himself without the spectre of DDG hanging over his head.

DDG gets a fresh club to play at which might give him the jolt needed to get him back to his best form.

While if Henderson flops then we still have DDG on the books to come back.

6.) 19 Jun 2021 09:30:51

What are you on about? It looks like you have a massive soft spot for DDG. Logically thinking, DDG does not deserve to be first choice gk anymore. He has been horrible for past three years and yet is the highest paid player in the league.

Form loss usually only last for weeks or months. DDG has lost his form for 3 years now which means he is in decline. As much he has done for the club, it is time to say good bye.

It is sad to see many people slating henderson just because he is here to replace their beloved DDG. Henderson is still learning and can only be better. He is better in everthing compared to DDG except shot stopping. To be fair, DDG has never been good at anything except shot stopping and there was no one better than him.

As Shappy said, sensible thing is to go for Henderson as first choice and sell DDG. If he was at low wage then i would understand but he is at incredibly stupid wage which is not healthy for the club.

7.) 19 Jun 2021 10:31:40
Henderson is a perfectly adequate goalkeeper, but is that what we want, adequate.

We all agree that DDG needs to be moved on, ideally he would like to go back to Madrid, but neither club there looks an option at the moment. Heard that he sounded out Barcelona as he is close friends with Aguero, but the money situation is too difficult to overcome.

The more you look at it the madder his contract looks, with three years to run and £60million still due to him. Those are big numbers for loan clubs to consider and even bigger for United for someone who might not be playing for you, dwarfs the cost of sacking Jose which cost us only £20million.

Personally I would prefer if we went for someone like Meslier, who is already ahead of Henderson in ability, yet three years younger.

8.) 19 Jun 2021 10:50:58
Grim, he only has two years left on his contact until June 2023. I fully agree that in hindsight the length and size of his contract seems like a bad decision.

I disagree that Henderson is merely "adequate". I think he is a very talented keeper. I'm also not the only one, with teams such as Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and Dortmund all having had him seriously scouted and interested in signing him (although with PSG signing Donnarumma I expect their interest has gone now) .

Top sides are interested because they see the talent in him. I'd say his current level is greater than that of DDG during his first couple of season's with us.

It would be madness of the club to let him go without giving him a season as first choice to see if he can prove himself at the highest level.

9.) 19 Jun 2021 11:40:05
For me there is no contest between them. If DDG can restore his confidence, which is the problem, then in terms of skill I haven't seen Henderson do anything in the numerous chances he was given last season to suggest he's anywhere near the same level. He's English and has come through our ranks and people like that. But he's not really done a thing as far as I'm concerned other than play well for a lesser side on loan where he was tested far more often.

10.) 19 Jun 2021 11:56:26
Hendo for me all day long. If we lose him we will be searching for a new number 1 in a year or 2 and will struggle to find a keeper as good as him because if he's playing every week he's going to get better.

11.) 19 Jun 2021 12:40:00
Option on the additional year Shappy, we usually extend those because we want to get a fee for a player. With the exception of the Dog Walker, have we ever let a player at DDG's level go without asking for money in return?

I agree Henderson is talented, but so is Lingard, at United he is a squad player, not a first team player.

Interesting that Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, PSG and Dortmund all looked at Dean. However PSG decided on Donnurumma, Dortmund went with Kobel, Spurs were actually looking at Maignan until he went to Milan, Chelsea considered Donnarumma, but now he has gone to PSG will stick with what they have and Arsenal want Onana.

12.) 19 Jun 2021 13:52:27
The problem is, is that DDG has made mistakes for the past 3 years and until this season wasn't dropped. Romero deserved to be our number 1.

In OGS first season DDG cost us a place in the CL by making some very silly errors, which were partly down to OGS wanting to play out from the back. The club then went on to offer him a huge new contract, which he didn't deserve due to how poor his form was. Even Mourinho said on Sky Sports that is was very surprised that he got a deal like that given how poor he had been.

OGS can't make a decision. He Brough Henderson back, left Romero in the lurch and the only GK who was probably happy was Grant.

I can't wait for the club to offer pogba a new monster deal and watch him play poorly again. He clearly doesn't want to be at the club. During the Euros his comments have made it obvious.

Utd are a poorly managed club, run by amateurs.

13.) 19 Jun 2021 14:08:12
There is no proof that Henderson will only get better and improve and there is no proof that a goalkeeper at 31 will keep declining.
The only real question is if we believe Henderson will become a top top keeper, i personally don't. So we have two options:
1) We believe in him becoming a top keeper and far better than the current ability of De Gea so we keep him.
2)We don't believe in him and believe that it is a risk so we sell him NOW because now his price is higher. After 1-2 average seasons his price will go down. Furthermore between two "average" keepers i would prefer the one with the expiration date (De Gea) . He has two year contract and we have enough time to think about his replacement if we won't renew his contract. He will also be 33 and we will have an easy desicion. With Henderson it will not be an easy desicion because of age and nationality, so if he is half decent stick with him so stick with an average keeper.
So the sensible choice is stick with De Gea and at the same time try to find his replacement after 1-2 seasons.

14.) 19 Jun 2021 14:14:59

You’ve just said OGS can’t make a decision then described the decision he made. I think what you mean is he made a decision you didn’t agree with which is different.

15.) 19 Jun 2021 14:37:30
Id sell them both and go for Oblak. You never know until you ask.

16.) 19 Jun 2021 15:17:47
Is this a new trend over here where players are judged without being given a proper chance to prove themselves? And yet we got Ole in charge.

I agree DeGea is the more experienced and better shot stopper of the two and if possible I would have him as No.1 with Henderson as backup rotating with him and gaining experience in the process.

However, if we have to make a choice then based on the mistakes made by both I would keep Henderson as he is much younger and a better all round keeper and has time on his side to improve upon his weakness. I would give him a season to see if he can step up and if not we can always get someone better.

The problem though is with DeGea's contract right now and we somehow need to handle that.

GrimisnotDead as far as Lingard is concerned he was given more than enough chances in the first team which he failed to take. And other teams haven't come in for Hendo probably because we are not yet ready to let him go.

17.) 19 Jun 2021 16:02:25
It's definetely the riskier of the options. Ole immediately alienated Lukaku upon his arrival in place of the local lad. After numerous options up front the situation will require major attention at the end of this season. Will history repeat itself?

I personally think it's the wrong decision but I hate the idea of rotating GKs. If he's chosen Henderson then so be it.

18.) 19 Jun 2021 21:08:56
LPU, wasn't Lingard only behind Lukaku in the scoring stats in 17/ 18 under Jose, hardly not taking his chance. He then had his dip in form which was due to his well know off field issues. Ole initially refused to let him go on loan, its was only because Jesse forced the issue that Ole buckled, and you have to agree he took his chance at WH.

Teams haven't come in for Hendo because clubs know we aren't ready to let him go? That is not how football works, if a club was truly interested in him they would have already sounded out his agent about the possibility of a move, the fact that the majority have scouted him and moved on says alot.

But that is the beauty of football, we all have opinions, for me Henderson would be perfect for an Everton or West Ham, but not a top four team, which is what we expect to be.

19.) 20 Jun 2021 04:47:01
GrimisnotDead, Lingard played well for a while but he was afforded a lot of chances to make the position his own which he failed to do so. So, effectively he has not taken his chance.

How do you know that other clubs haven't come in for him? And without even giving Henderson a proper chance why are you even judging him to not be good for us? Just give him a chance to prove himself before making a hasty judgement.

20.) 20 Jun 2021 07:53:18
Grim, I don't think Lingard and Henderson's situations are comparable.

Lingard has made 133 appearances for the club over a 7 year period, under three different managers.

Henderson has made 13 appearances, in one year, under one manager, with 8 of them coming in a run of consecutive games.

Teams have come in for Henderson, they have approached his agent and they have approached the club and have been met with a flat out no.

The fact they have moved on when a top club have refused to sell them a player, only says they are well run and not stupid.

21.) 20 Jun 2021 08:12:12
Herrera, while there might not be any definitive proof that a 24 year old goalkeeper will continue to improve. It's pretty well accepted that most players hit their peaks in their late 20's or early 30's. With keepers often hitting their peaks later and sustaining it for longer.

So while there is not proof that Henderson will improve, probably around 90% of keepers at his age will continue to improve.

Is there any definitive proof that DDG will continue to decline? No, but he has shown a steady and continuous decline over the past 3 seasons. That's more than a blip. Poor form lasts week's, maybe months, but not years.

For me the only way I see DDG rediscovering his form is if he moves and has a new challenge. Even then I doubt that will see him return to his absolute best.

For me he is a similar keeper to Casillas. Great shot stopper, average at everything else. Even at his peak DDG was weak in the air, his distribution was average, his command of his area was poor. But he made saves that no one had a right to make. His reactions were freakish.

The issue is as you age your reaction speed declines first. We saw it with Casillas and we are seeing it with DDG. His shot stopping is still way above average, but it's not anywhere near where it was when he was 26. And in my opinion it never will be again.

This has exposed DDG's lack of quality in all other goalkeeping departments. His inability to play out from the back has seen him lose his spot for the national team, first to Kepa now to Simon.

Both decent keepers but not world class.

The reality is that he is likely to continue to decline. Apparently Ole has set him with specific training to try and improve his distribution. Something I wonder why no other managers/ goalkeeping coaches have done. Over the past 8 years he should have been working to improve his weaknesses and make himself a better all round keeper, that would have mitigated his loss in reaction time as he aged and would have kept him near the top.

Currently there are maybe 4 or 5 keepers in the EPL better than him. With some young ones who over the next year or so might overtake him as well. Dean Henderson being one of them.

I expect if you went to all the top sides and offered them DDG or Henderson right now for the same price, say 30m. The majority would pick Henderson. That tells you all you need to know about who should be out No.1.

22.) 20 Jun 2021 08:38:42
I miss van der Sar : (.

23.) 20 Jun 2021 09:39:56
Trololo, I miss VDS, my personal favourite keeper during my lifetime.



04 Jan 2021 20:54:57
Rojo to boca juniors? Not sure if accurate but Would make sense for him to finish his playing back in his natice argentina.





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27 Nov 2023 13:27:37
One thing you can't fault Ten Haag with is his approach to youth development with two examples.

Discipling Garnacho on his first pre season and making him earn his way back into the squad was impressive, other managers may have let that slide.

Our mdfield has been a shambles all season and he easily could have been selfish and rushed Mainoo back from injury straight away but he integrated him slowly and play a few youth games to get match fitness and only started him after a 2 week international to make sure he was prepared for premier league football.


1.) 27 Nov 2023 14:36:50
Agreed. I just hope he is motivated to integrate more from the youth setup over time.

2.) 27 Nov 2023 16:03:58
Or he could have just bought a couple of good quality midfielders with all the money he’s frittered away. No doubt he thought rash was going to score another 30 odd goals and Casemiro was going to do a Benjamin button and has bought luxury players instead. Massive misjudgement and wasteful spending. Not much to shout about this season.

3.) 27 Nov 2023 16:15:58
Oh he’s back, onethirddingle, you genuinely could not be more obvious, if you just toned it down a tiny bit you wouldn’t get blocked each and every time.

4.) 27 Nov 2023 17:02:26
The other side of the coin is, all his crazy signings not at worked and it is last throw of the dice for ETH so go with what was at the club already.

Confirmed by all his signings did not even make the team apart from GK. that just shows how bad his signings/ Loans have been.

5.) 27 Nov 2023 19:34:26

You are truly a toxic troll. Every signing but Ambrabat and Onana are injured atm and were not available for selection or in the squad.

It must be very disappointing for you, we won and nothing to post for a few days and now you conjure up another one of your useless posts.


6.) 27 Nov 2023 20:21:02
He’s replied to himself now as well, oh my days.

7.) 27 Nov 2023 20:21:43
I do almost feel sorry for someone who derives some warped feeling of satisfaction from playing these rather childish games.
Lest there be any doubt the time line of this person, it seemingly has today morphed into onethirddingle,
previously rangersred,
previously shamrock,
previously strangeways,
previously trafford.

This of course goes back in time to our old friend from Romania!

The whole thing has become SO tedious, is there not a motorway near you where you can go and play?

8.) 27 Nov 2023 20:22:11
Blimey enjoy the result. utd won well for once. Wasn't it nice to watch the last 10 without being on pins. enjoy it instead of looking for stupid arguments. As by Wednesday night or Saturday we could be back down to earh with a thud.

9.) 27 Nov 2023 21:07:12
I think everyone (except the interloper) did enjoy the result, I certainly did.
No one is looking for stupid arguments, but I think it entirely proper to point out that the only person who is trying to stop the enjoyment and create disharmony and the very argument you reference, is nothing other than a complete fraud and charlatan who should not either be welcome or tolerated.

10.) 27 Nov 2023 22:23:07
RangersRed, It doesn't matter how many times you say a mistruth it will not make it true.

Onana is making a lot of "experts" eat their words over the last few weeks. He will only get better with better defenders in front of him.

Martinez is our best CB.

Casemiro was our best midfielder las season, hands down. He was never going to be a long term option and maybe he is suffering from having to play so many minutes last season (He played the most minutes of any season in his career last season with us) . Also he was never the managers choice, that was FdJ. When that deal couldn't be concluded the club were offered Casemiro and took the deal. We overpaid, but that isn't on the manager, he neither negotiates the deals and Casemiro was never one of his preferred targets. In fact if I remember correctly it was Adrien Rabiot who EtH wanted when it became clear the FdJ deal wasn't going to happen. Which makes sense as Rabiot is a far more similar profile of player to FdJ than Casemiro is. The club even tried to negotiate a deal with Rabiot, but were unable/ unwilling to reach an agreement. Eventually settling on Casemiro in the final days of the window as options were running out. In hindsight would Rabiot on a free have been a better deal? Possibly, depends if his mum could be kept on a leash.

Mason Mount will prove to be a good signing. He hasn't played poorly, unfortunately due to injuries we have been unable to play the way the manager had intended meaning he hasn't had the chances he probably deserves yet. He will though. When he's played he's been generally good, not put in a below 6 out of 10 performance yet, typically been around 7.

Hojlund looks like a very good signing, you can see the quality he has. Unfortunately he's playing in a team that aren't creating enough chances for him. He will be first choice for many years.

Malacia and Bayindir are solid squad players, cheap enough and are value for money given their role and what we paid.

The only permanent signing that has been a failure is Antony. If you are going to insist on a manager getting sacked for 1 bad signing then you'll probably sack every manager before they have completed a whole season.

All the other signings have been loans or free transfers. Evans and Eriksen have been pretty successful all things considered. The loans haven't been great. Yet the question we should be asking isn't why has the current manager signed these loan players, but instead why has EtH had to sign 6 players on loan in 12 months when Sir Alex didn't sign that many on over a quarter of a century?

The club has been very poorly run, and that has impacted the signings EtH has made so far, from being forced to search Europe for loans to being delivered Casemiro when he asked for Frankie de Jong. I also have no doubt the clubs poor track record has played a role in EtH being sceptical of the players the club suggest, probably leading to him over relying on players he knows such as Antony.

That said of the 10 permanent signings he's made I think 4 have a long term future in the first 11 (Onana, Martinez, Mount and Hojlund) . Another four have been solid squad options and value for money (Eriksen, Malacia, Bayindir and Evans) . With only 2 having any sort of question mark over them. Casemiro who wasn't the managers signing (FdJ and Rabiot were who he wanted), and Antony (who definitely was the managers signing) . The rest were loans made to patch up a poor squad previously assembled under past managers.

I think to anyone with half a brain the signings made make sense and for the most part fit the right profile of player.

Of all the managers post Sir Alex I can honestly say the players signed under EtH have far and away been the best.

Moyes - Fellaini, Mata, Varela.

LvG - Herrera, Shaw, Rojo, Di Maria, Falcao, Valdes, Depay, Darmian, Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Romero, and Martial.

Jose - Sanchez, Grant, Bailly, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Lindelof, Dalot, Matic, Pogba, Fred, Ibrahimovic.

Ole - Bishop, Heaton, Pellistri, Donny, Telles, James, Amad, AWB, Ronaldo, Sancho, Maguire, Varane, Cavani and Bruno Fernandes.

Seriously look at those signings from previous managers and you really think the signings under EtH are worse than any previous manager?

11.) 27 Nov 2023 22:52:30
He has spoken lol.

12.) 27 Nov 2023 22:54:52
Thats 37 signings you've listed Shappy and I'd say three have been worthwhile; Romero, Shaw and Fernandes.

13.) 27 Nov 2023 23:34:36
Gary Neville says there was no plan to add a midfielder speaking to people at united and the plan was Mainoo was the guy. Mainoo's injury forced us to do the Ambrabat loan deal.

I trust this manager when it comes to knowing talent and integrating them into the team.

14.) 28 Nov 2023 00:16:07
MancMan, I suppose that depends on where you place the goalposts.

If you are looking bar players who have been successful when called upon and have been some sort of value for money then it hard to add anyone to that list of Romero, Shaw and Bruno. Possibly add Ibrahimovic on a free was a good signing for the short term.

I think there are a few more players who might fit the solid squad players category. Dalot, Herrera, Lindelof, Fred maybe (although his fee make him a very expensive squad option) . While you may in time be able to call Amad or Pellistri a success depending how they develop.

But really whether you are saying good signing for the first 11, solid squad player, or talented young player yet to reach their potential we are still only looking at around 7 maybe 8 decent signings from 37.

That in essence is exactly why we have fallen off a cliff in terms of challenging for titles.

You can't sign 30 flops to your 25 man squad and expect anything but abject failure. Until we have 18-20 successful signings in our squad we won't be anywhere near competing forbl major honours.

15.) 28 Nov 2023 04:52:05
Bit harsh on Mata. A good solid player and good professional, who a few of the current squad would be good to look to as an example.

16.) 28 Nov 2023 06:47:13
I think the problem with many of our signings over the last 10 years has been age profiles and short sightedness. We really had no long term plan and were always doing deals for players who had name recognition but at the end of their careers and we never really got to see their best version. Combine that with the absolute busts its been a large waste of money.

I think Bruno, Dalot, Shaw have been great signings. then you have the likes of lindelof, Varrane, Ronaldo, Mata, Herrera who were decent signing in terms of performance.

Personally not enough signings of players in the 18-21 years old profile with a longer term view. I think if your academy is not producing enough then you should be signing a couple a year as a minimum with some sort of allocation of your transfer spend specificly for them.

17.) 28 Nov 2023 07:00:03
Maybe keefy. I really liked Mata, but he never hit the heights expected of him, especially given what we paid for him at the time (club record fee) .

In the end he underwhelmed and never fully nailed down a starting position. Did he really have a bigger impact than Fred for example, despite being a far more talented player.

18.) 28 Nov 2023 07:04:53
Oooooft shappy, wow your best post fergie manager and squad was clearly Mourinhos Lukaku used to get slated but imagine you'd kept him awful 1st touch but could score goals you've still not really replaced him big mistake in hindsight by Ole selling him for what half a good season by Martial good win on Sunday though surely keep it up by beating Galatasaray midweek up until January will make or break the Dutch fella for sure few hard games see what him and his signings are made of no point bigging them up yet you've not really beaten any sides u shouldn't yet.

19.) 28 Nov 2023 08:30:51
Only way to rate a signing without being blinkered obvs Rangers red doesn't rate TH but other side Shappy seems to think he can do no wrong is are they worth more than you paid for them? Are they pushing you on to win big trophys? Do they get you out of your seat with excitement?

So are TH signings any good just now the jurys got to be out on all of them think sticking with Ole and letting him spend so much money really set UTD back had a decent team under Mourinho apart from the last season when it imploded but when he was there was the only time post Fergie i thought United looked like they might win bigger trophies easily your best manager since Fergie anybody who can't see that doesn't know much about football. been major downhill for utd since then now serious hammerings aren't unexpected.

20.) 28 Nov 2023 14:29:55
These two (? ) Rangers lads. None of them post on the Rangers page. Lot to say about Utd, though.

21.) 28 Nov 2023 15:16:44
Two strokers or one?

22.) 28 Nov 2023 19:44:35
The Mourinho squad was pretty poor to be frank.

While the signings made under Jose were frankly awful. Sanchez, Grant, Bailly, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Lindelof, Dalot, Matic, Pogba, Fred, Ibrahimovic. Several of them would be in the conversation as our worst ever signing.

Lukaku pushed for a move away much like he did at Chelsea, then Everton, then Inter Milan. He wasn't prepared to fight for his spot, which he only had to do because his form was awful and he got rightfully dropped. That happened under Jose which prompted him to sign Ibrahimovic.

Lukaku was never a good player, very one dimensional, with poor touch and technique.

I've criticised EtH, but have always expressed that I feel the mistakes he has made are in part due to the circumstances he has, through no fault of his own, found himself in.

23.) 28 Nov 2023 19:54:59
Mmmmm. A far bigger impact than Fred I would suggest. I accept he didn’t perhaps have the physical attributes of Fred but was far far smarter with the ball, scored roughly 4 times more goals and would suggest had far more assists.

Fred didn't exactly nail down a starting position either to be fair.

I agree 100% that Mata was not the be all and end all. But he was a model professional and that is something we severely lack at the moment.

Just felt it was a little harsh to list him alongside some of the real flops we have recruited.

24.) 29 Nov 2023 07:54:59
Jesus mount a 6 or 7. i'd suggest there's few players that have reached that level in our squad and mason definitely isn't one of them. Not hating on him but i'd call declan rice a 7 out of 10 most weeks mount would be lucky to be a 3 or 4!

25.) 29 Nov 2023 09:15:35
No way are any of those signings in the same league of bad as Antony, shappy Zlatan was a tremendous signing same as Dalot great player wouldn't look out of place at Madrid. Ole made it clear he didn't want the big fella and stuck him up on the transfer list u might think that but he's still 1 of the top goalscorers in Europe what circumstances a few injuries he's had it easy at UTD said before it's a way easier gig than most other big clubs hardly any pressure to get top 4 a wee cup run and you're golden, which with your spending power u should easily get to look at Newcastle last night that's bare bones least UTD can call on international players like Mctom, Lindelof, big Harry. you've a well deep squad compared to most clubs. Wish Rangers could spend 5 percent of what you've spent this season alone.

26.) 29 Nov 2023 13:32:28
Zlatan was decent at best, one good year, followed by one year out injured. On massive wages and stopped any chance of Rashford developing as a CF by limiting his game time in that role. It was also a short term fix, meaning the club still had an issue the following season. If he was signed to be top quality back up or alongside a top class young player who needed a season or two to develop then he'd have been a good signing. Bought to be our main CF means it wasn't a great deal.

Lukaku had already fallen out with Jose and was angling for a move away BEFORE Ole took over. He was disinterested, overweight and lazy under Ole. That effected his form and he was rightfully dropped. He showed no desire or fight to put in the work needed to regain his place, and preferred to look to leave. Why on earth would Ole or any manager try to keep a player like that? Since he left he's had one good season in Italy, followed by three poor ones across both the EPL and Serie A. We paid 75m for him, paid him 250k per week for 6 months of decent performances at best under Jose (the manager who signed him), then sold at a loss.

Dalot has been a decent signing, yet he didn't nail down the position, which is why the club spent a further 50m on AWB. Both are decent players, but neither would start at teams challenging for the title. Dalot is a great squad player, much like Phil Neville was. A player able to come in for your first choice without a massive drop off in quality and a player capable of playing a few different positions/ roles, giving you more options off the bench.

I'm not sure either Dalot or Zlatan could be considered "tremendous" signings.

If you think the United managers job is easy then you are far denser than I give you credit for. "hardly any pressure to get top four"? only once in the past decade have we NOT fired a manager for not achieving top four. Pretty sure that's a fairly pressured position. Don't get top four? Lose your job.

Spending power means very little when you don't know how to spend it. Since Sir Alex and David Gill left the people running the club have been like that bin man who won the lottery, throwing cash around like its going out of fashion but on nothing worthwhile or tangible. Leading to them frittering it all away and ending up back emptying bins when they should have been set for life.

Over 1bn spent on players and only a couple held or increased their value, taking a title winning squad to a bunch of players who aren't good enough to share the dressing room of the best United sides even as a 5th choice squad option.

We've literally spent a fortune to make the squad progressively worse.

If you like Maguire, McTominay and Lindelof that much you are more than welcome to them. None of them are as good as Brown, Silvestre, O'Shea or Fletcher. All of which were not good enough to be regular starters for a Manchester United team challenging for top honours.



15 Sep 2023 13:20:54
One thing you have to admire about ten hag on the Sancho issue is him sticking to his principles.

He was effectively told he would have Greenwood available in August and now he's gone and there is also the issue with Antony not being available.

Plenty of managers would have gone back on their principles and reintegrated Sancho straight away given they had already lost two players in the same position.


1.) 15 Sep 2023 14:54:37
We'll find out whether Ten Hag has what it takes to return United to former glories, but for the time being he does seem to be doing what we all knew was needed with respect to restoring discipline in the squad. You can't have players publicly contradicting the manager, or perpetually going on about how they're considering where they would be happier playing, or disclosing to the press discord in the dressing room. These adolescents and young men are being paid £ms every year to play football. The will make more in one year than most of the fans will make in a lifetime. Anything less than 100% effort and loyalty is not enough. The use of social media to elevate personal gain over the team has to be stomped on.

Interestingly, we may recall Ronaldo's public efforts to leave United for Real Madrid. Didn't he complain that he was being treated like a slave by being held to a lucrative contract he had freely entered into? There were people who actually went along with that line of argument at the time. What an insult to those whose freedoms were and still are stolen against their will and without recompense. Was that the first large scale inkling of player power?

2.) 15 Sep 2023 15:06:38
just listened to his press conference. Got to respect the guy never even mentioned sancho and talked about culture, standards and principles. Said no player is bigger than the team and also said in a indirect manner, it takes a few violations to end up where he has ended up and its not a one off event.

Like this manager a lot and he has had to deal with things no manager has had to before with big time names.

3.) 15 Sep 2023 15:40:23

this is not directed at you but a general observation. People can't have it both ways. Ragnik asked for open heart surgery and many agreed and many here don't believe any of these players are good enough including bruno and rash believe it or not. If you really think we are rubbish then why the expectations.

Then the same group of fans like to call the manager out and think we should be contending for the league because eth added a cas, martinez, antony and Erickon and last year Two games in, I read on this page, we are getting relegated. We end up finish 3rd and win a trophy and lose one in the final to a team that won everything.

I also read we are getting hammered before that final too and it was actually a boring game and we did not do enough to win it but they did very little too but were the better team and I think the second goal killed us, I was there.

Now to this season, the players we have signed have hardly kicked a ball together as a first 11 or in some cases played. We have had the greenwood, Antony and now Sancho issue and injuries across the board and in my humble opinion we are a lot better than what we have shown so far and this guy is perfect for us.

Finally, SAF never won a thing until his 4th season which saved his job. Our league form was horrible during his early years. This manager needs to be backed with time and funds and knows how to build a team of characters to win things.

4.) 15 Sep 2023 15:42:21
Exactly Ahmad, can't believe I am reading some people criticizing how EtH is handling this. Give the guy a medal as far as I am concerned.

And I fully expect us to be great tomorrow against brighton. This guy has the magic stuff, he just needs time and support.

5.) 15 Sep 2023 17:39:24
Listen to talksport the usual idiots sticking up for sancho! Why doesn’t anyone within the game come out and call it for what it is, he’s a big time Charlie with very little to back it up! 110 percent behind our manager!

6.) 15 Sep 2023 18:22:20
Id expect Roy Keane to. but he likes his sky sports job now so will keep his tongue.

7.) 15 Sep 2023 18:31:07
Sancho strikes me as a player who doesn't have the mentality for United, he's not the first and he won't be the last. For some players, the club, and everything that goes with it can be daunting for some, same as at a few other clubs. The current circus behind the scenes wo t be helping, but I just think he isn't strong enough mentally.

8.) 15 Sep 2023 19:00:19
Ahmad. I have no idea how well we're going to do this year but suspect we will end upon in the top 5. If we do so it will be down to the manager getting the best out of his squad, which will require the club to allow him to set the rules. Ten Hag already exceeded most people's expectations last year, and while we did tail off after an extremely arduous season with very limited squad depth, I for one considered the season a success. For us to take the next step we're quite possibly going to need the rest of the club's hierarchy, from scouting, recruitment, sports science, to football director to be upgraded along with a resolution to the limitations imposed by FFP. There is a limit to what the manager can achieve without the rest of the club being fully in sync. If ETH fails I do not believe it will be solely or even mainly as a result of his shortcomings.

9.) 16 Sep 2023 09:46:59
I said we should support the manager on this 100% and it looks like the amateurs have, yet I bet there was a lot of twitching over how much it would cost. It’s about time the ill discipline of years under Ole was remedied. They must support the manager on this, no matter what whining by pundits.



06 Sep 2023 09:49:10
Lindelof and Martinez both back training with their international teams.

That one of them couldn't have seen out the 90 minutes on Sunday seems odd considering what we had on the bench with Varane and Shaw injured.

Might have made a difference to the final result.


1.) 06 Sep 2023 10:20:35
None of them were injured. Perhaps they were a little late for training, may be 30 seconds so they weren't punished completely.

2.) 06 Sep 2023 10:45:05
Weren’t they both on yellows, maybe worried they’d get sent off ?‍♂️.

3.) 06 Sep 2023 11:20:13
If you can't trust your starting cbs to manage a game to the end on a yellow card, that is worrying, its part of the job.

4.) 06 Sep 2023 11:49:47
Martinez clearly had an issue and he is not one for coming off. Glad its nothing serious.

5.) 06 Sep 2023 12:11:18
Lindelof unwell Martinez had a knock!

6.) 06 Sep 2023 12:27:05
Are we seriously suggesting they faked injury to go off? Bloody hell.

7.) 06 Sep 2023 13:39:20
No no one is suggesting that lol.

8.) 06 Sep 2023 13:47:54
if they had not come off they may have been out injured for an extended period who knows.

9.) 06 Sep 2023 14:23:09
Martinez was an impact injury, so it quickly healed after a couple of days, Lindelof was ill so couldn't continue.

If they stay off the shellfish and take some ibuprofen, I imagine they will be fine.

10.) 06 Sep 2023 15:11:50
Martinez had a problem and was asking to come off way before he was subbed. He is not the kind of guy to run away from a match that's for sure. And the manager said Lindelof was ill so couldn't complete the match.

11.) 06 Sep 2023 19:32:19
GtS you seriously need to chill. Go out have some fun. what's wrong with your sense of humour.

12.) 06 Sep 2023 19:46:18
No he not the kind of player to feign an injury, but I honestly don’t think he even fit at the moment anyway, he not been half the player this season. Something clearly not right with him. Who knows what is going on, but it don’t look a happy camp if you ask me, even Rashford back to LeSulk this season, thought he had left that behind.
Ten looks like a man feeling the pressure, least he can’t go grey or bald!

13.) 06 Sep 2023 23:48:21

What are you on about? You’re the biggest moaner on here with Maze, I think I’m ok.

14.) 07 Sep 2023 06:15:27
Looks like our shiny new full back Reguillon got a great attitude too, look at picture going to appear today, with Dele Ali, if that don’t tell you all you need to know and you all defend these morons, I got so much money I don’t care about rules they are just for you peasants to worry about, that’s the message it sends, maybe petty law breaking but it just shows the mentality of todays players.

15.) 07 Sep 2023 06:38:20
Oh no Trafford is now saying there is a problem behind the scenes with Martinez, along with Bruno rashford Maguire mctom etc etc
For someone who like myself knows nothing about what’s going on at OT you seem to think you know an awful lot Trafford!

16.) 07 Sep 2023 07:20:09

Demeanour can be seen on the pitch by everyone. If the manager has to say they are not running enough then why is that? Why are they not fit, why are they picking up injuries?

17.) 07 Sep 2023 09:04:41
Thats not the managers job Redman. His job is to run his mouth on the camera and as GtS says it, "moan" that his players are not running.

18.) 07 Sep 2023 09:56:12
Chere is zero substance to anything he posts and you are being bated, ignore him.

Few characters here seem to be doing this on everything. they sensationalize everything with negative twist to it. JUST IGNORE.

19.) 07 Sep 2023 10:54:58

I assumed Reguillon had done something bad for you to post about it, it’s a parking ticket for anyone who hasn’t seen it. Players at our club are under enough scrutiny and everything picked up and made a big deal without ‘fans’ making issues where there aren’t any.

20.) 07 Sep 2023 11:16:42
Ahmad. Spot on why does anybody reply? I don't even read posts from Trafford just move on now. In fact its too difficult to decipher with the poor grammar at times anyhow.
I'd advise all posters to do the same. He does not support the club. Just a troll.
United addict is much the same.
Giggs who is maze?

21.) 07 Sep 2023 13:19:51
Sorry but we shouldn’t dismiss posters as Trolls and say doesn’t support the club, just because we don’t like what they are saying. Disagree by all means but let’s treat posters with respect, argue and discuss. Abuse or personal comments are another matter but we need to have different opinions on here and not chase posters like Trafford off because you don’t agree. I had many discussions with Maze and Trafford writes nothing like him. I hope Trafford keeps posting, we need variety like him/ her.

22.) 07 Sep 2023 13:58:53
Agree with Red Man. Trafford isn’t Maze.

They’re too dissimilar.

Unlike lawman and Ken.

23.) 07 Sep 2023 14:41:20
Thank you RedMan and Wazza, can you please tell me who this Maze character is, who Gigi’s and his sidekick are besotted with.

So Giggs in your eyes it’s ok, just to stick your car on double yellow lines when you go for lunch and laugh your head off when you come back and got a ticket, because you have money to burn, do you not know there is a cost of living crises and many people are struggling, so this just shows total disrespect for people that go to work to earn money to go and hopefully watch a match, I would not care if it was Pele, both Ronaldo’s and Maradona together (although be bit awkward with 2 of them) it’s total disrespect and shows all that’s wrong with society today, especially football players, but clearly not in your eyes, because you condone it because one of them is a united player. Says more about you then I even thought!

24.) 07 Sep 2023 19:01:59
I just think it’s not a big issue.

Maze was a poster on here a couple of years ago, all he ever did was post negative stuff, start arguments wherever he could, have a go at other posters, gave zero balance and no positives. Sound familiar? He was eventually removed from the site because he created a number of duplicate accounts to agree with his own posts and the Ed’s saw they were from the same IP address! He had come back in various guises over the years but it’s been a while before this reincarnation.

The fact Trafford has mentioned a good number of things on here from a long time ago, knowing ken was banned, things that Red Man said about Ole etc but is acting dumb and pretending he doesn’t know who Maze is makes it pretty clear to me that it is him.

25.) 07 Sep 2023 20:32:59

I can't be bothered replying to someone who thinks the manager is rubbish, players are rubbish and everything is rubbish about the club. if you actually find having a conversation with him interesting that's for you. I am not here to talk about a parking ticket by one of our players and assassinate his character.

IMO he is troll who is here to be toxic even if he is fan which I doubt.

Toxic are people who amplify anything negative even when not true or unproven. A mole is made into a mountain and they get off on focusing on negativity and dismiss anything positive.

I will still ignore him until I see something that resembles some substance and balance.

26.) 07 Sep 2023 20:43:44
GtS you yourself are relatively new to this place unless of course you were GDS2. You do write a lot like GDS. Now that you have detailed Maze, what's your story?

27.) 08 Sep 2023 11:44:27
I’ve made it extremely clear that I’m GDS2 mate, I don’t think anyone thinks any different.



17 Jul 2023 14:48:38
Signing Onana makes Mcfred even more redundant now.

With an actual ball playing goalkeeper, Ten Hag will be even more committed to building from the back, then the central midfielders have to be able to receive the ball and control it.

This means Fred who can’t control the ball and Mctominay who hides from the ball need to be sold this summer, leaving Mount, Bruno, Eriksen and Casemiro as the starters.

Mainoo can come in as 5th choice maybe or do we need to sign another central midfielder, which will be difficult as the budget is tight.


1.) 17 Jul 2023 15:04:40
Fred and Mctom are surplus to requirements. I wouldn't mind Sabitzer coming back again. He was a good loan signing, he was abit unlucky with injuries. Also, he wouldn't block the progress of Mainoo.

However, a player in a similar mould to Casemiro is priority. Utd rely upon him alot, along with Martinez.

2.) 17 Jul 2023 17:33:27
Fred may not been everyone's cup of tea, but he deserves more respect than he gets from some on here. Scott is a starter for Scotland and never let's them down, Jose thought he was player of the season.

They may not be right for us, but they will do a job elsewhere.

DSG, I'm not having a go at you per se, it just seems many on here have become very relaxed about slagging off many of our own players.

3.) 17 Jul 2023 17:44:06
Sabitzer is good because he won't block Mainoo due to being injured all the time? Did I read that right!?

We have to stop signing players with terrible injury prospects. Bailly was injured twoce the year before we bought him, but we didn't take note. The worst player in your squad is the player unavailable due to injury. It is why so many fans are saying we have no CF, because martial has now shown through many seasons that he cannot stay fit. Doesn't matter what he does when he is fit, we need to get a lean, fit squad ready for the fight.

4.) 17 Jul 2023 20:11:40
Van Nistelrooy didn’t do too bad…….

5.) 17 Jul 2023 20:25:55
I actually like Fred and mctominay. But not together as they are pretty similar players. They both work hard, cover a lot of ground and aren't afraid of being on either side of a challenge. They get unfair stick from us fans but they would bleed for our club and are model pros, we could do a lot worse.

6.) 17 Jul 2023 15:35:47
I can't help but think that one of Fred/ McTominy will end up staying however I think you are right that to evolve and bring in some cash we need to sell both. I think we do need an additional midfielder so we do not put too much pressure on Mainoo who I think could be Cassimero's eventual successor.
The more I see of Amrabat (granted these are clips) I like what he could bring as cover for Cassimero. Seems to relish the defensive duties of a HM whilst being confortable receiving the ball. Similarly if we could bring in Goretska that would be a great addition.

7.) 17 Jul 2023 19:21:14
I disagree.
Fred and McTom, I expect atleast one of them to definitely not be here would be better with a ball playing GK and playing higher on the pitch.
The problem is them not being DMs.
McTominay is definitely a decent backup midfield player and I feel his goal scoring threat has been underused by us. More often than not his shots are on point.
Fred's energy is insane.

If we can get money for fred mctom and donny, I'd whatever we recoup and fund a move for amrabat.
And the sixth choice midfield player could be mainoo or mejbri or anyone else ETH feels is worth giving a go.

8.) 17 Jul 2023 22:27:36
Mctominay is incredibly under utilised. A very good player who always does a job. Could be a lot better too.

He would fit very well with West Ham and IMO they wouldn't feel the loss of Rice as much.

9.) 18 Jul 2023 07:21:22
Fred will be sold imo given his age and with mount coming in and looks like Ambrabat. Mc will not be sold imo and you need a strong core of midfielders and he is still quite young and much better than people here make him out to be.

He is a United boy though and through and He has his bad games like everyone in the squad.

We have plenty that need to get moved on before we get to mc.

10.) 18 Jul 2023 08:59:11
I still find it suprising that Scott wasn't used more this last season. His passing is certainly limited, but he offers energy in droves, and he is quite capable of driving through the middle with the ball.

Hell, if nothing else, he would have done a better job up front than Weghorst!

11.) 18 Jul 2023 10:54:30
McTominay makes a lot of mistakes aswell. I think he liek a few other players suffered a lot under Solsjaers era at the club.

Thw problem is, the club need to sell players to buy new ones. Fred can be brilliant one game, and poor the next. He lacks consistency. His attitude and determination are spot on.

12.) 18 Jul 2023 11:04:27

You did read it wrong. I said Sabitzer would be a good signing. He wouldn't block Mainoos path to the first team either. Also, he is 29.

He was a bit unlucky with injuries, he suits EtH style of play.

Ultimately if Utd sign another midfielder, he needs to be defensively minded.

13.) 18 Jul 2023 19:53:42
I’ve watched McTominay one several occasions, and the game passes him by. I get why people like him, local lad, passionate etc but you won’t be winning trophies with him in your midfield.
He’s good for Scotland, but the same can be said for Maguire. He’s a different animal for England, particularly in the last 2 major tournaments, he just isn’t up to it at United.



15 Jun 2023 12:04:37
Kim Min Jae on Bayerns radar, makes sense after watching Upamecanos performances in both legs against city lol.

Transfer window has only been open 1 day so everything is calm at the moment but as we have seen from previous seasons 1 day soon becomes 1 week soon becomes 1 month.

Next thing you know its the middle of August and youve lost 4-0 to Brentford and are leaving 24 missed calls on Casemiros phone and overpaying by 100% on a Brazilian fidget spinner.


1.) 15 Jun 2023 13:41:40
Ha Brazilian fidget spinner. Made me chuckle. He seemed to dip after getting the rollocking after that fancy spin he did a few months back.




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05 Nov 2023 14:44:18
Its why Mainoo is so highly regarded by the manager and club, at youth level he has shown he has superior technical and physical qualities.

Whether he can also be superior in mens football remains to be seen.




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14 Sep 2023 11:35:50
After MG was suspended in early 2022, Sancho really should have had the sense to make that RW role his own but he's always seemed to prefer the LW role where our best attacker plays.

Since then he's lost out to Elanga and Antony in that RW role when he is much more talented than both.

He only has himself to blame.




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05 Sep 2023 09:11:42
Good news but would have preferred him coming on before Maguire and Evans on Sundday.




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03 Jul 2023 11:14:00
Amad is good enough to step up now, especially if Antony continues to be mediocre in his second season.




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29 Jun 2023 13:55:13
Would guess he's a hybrid between Joao Felix and Ruben Neves going off his name.





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21 Nov 2023 14:31:00
Funny people mention effort when it comes to Rashford but Antony hasn't made the effort to learn how to kick the ball with his right foot yet.




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19 Nov 2023 15:36:55
Good not great player underperforming as is the whole team.

Defence has been chopping and changing and the midfield is awful and our right winger is half fidget spinner half alleged criminal.

Plenty of places to point fingers but some fans have it out for rashford for some reason.




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13 Nov 2023 14:59:17
Tbf to the front players we are 11th in both "big chances created" and "expected goals".

I know these stats are not bulletproof but watching the games we don't create a boat load of chances, Hojlund can go through a full 90 mins and not have 1 clear cut chance.

We lack creativity from full back, deep midfield and right wing. Full back has been affected by injury to Shaw who is a big chance creator but the other two areas were meant to be improved by Mount and Antony. that's on Ten Haag.

Maybe Amad and Mainoo can come in and help pick up the creative burden where Mount and Antony have flopped.




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13 Nov 2023 12:31:03
We should have spent the resources wasted on Mount on Kim Min Jae, hindsight is 20/ 20 though.




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09 Nov 2023 15:06:49
If we are going to play 3 at the back, might as well get a manager who is the best at playing that formation, Conte.