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31 Jan 2019 12:49:03
martial has signed. now for dave and herrera.

bolger2

1.) 31 Jan 2019 16:37:53
And release the rest.


2.) 31 Jan 2019 17:22:20
Easy there Mort - we are not going to win much with just those 3 players. We need more :)


3.) 01 Feb 2019 12:38:36
Its the start of a good 5 a side.


 

 

13 Jan 2019 00:52:32
So we're are considering Southgate.

Please NO.

England overacheived but the teams we played we should have beat.

In my opinion Southgate is not the manager we need ole should be made manager if Southgate is in the running.

bolger2

1.) 13 Jan 2019 09:08:36
It’s nonsense. This shortlist is suddenly becoming very long if the press are to believed. I’m sure Southgate also realises he is in totally the right job at the right time. He’s building something very special with England.


2.) 13 Jan 2019 09:14:35
Sky peddling stories hopefully, I’d be majorly disappointed if he was named our manager, would be a MASSIVE step backwards.


3.) 13 Jan 2019 09:49:09
Definitely just the papers pushing nonsense stories. Some where else reported that we could also go in for Diego Simeone with his contract being up in 18 months.


4.) 13 Jan 2019 10:38:32
While I too have reservations over Southgate he does tick many of the boxes. Primarily promoting youth and playing offensive football. He has also shown an ability to get players into the right mind-set as seen with England last summer.

Due to the nature of Ole's appointment we will have to endure 4-5 months of press speculation over who will be the next manager. Like with us being linked to 100,000,000 players every year, we will now be linked to just about every manager under the sun. It doesn't sell papers or get clicks if they just keep repeating the obvious. Pochettino is the most likely candidate.

On that point I found Pochettino's most recent interview very interesting. Cheering when Ole scored the winner in the 99 UCL final, saying to him Sir Alex IS football.

Now they could be brushed away as him being asked loaded questions during the interview as we play Spurs today it makes sense to ask him questions about us. However, he didn't need to be that honest or open. I would go as far as saying if Mourinho had said similar comments about another side while our manager it would have been construed as "flirting" with that team, especially if that team was without a permanent manager.

Either way they make interesting reading/ listening.


5.) 13 Jan 2019 12:10:41
Who broke it? Sky.
Next thing we know is suddenly there's a surge of money on Sky Bet as all the chumps rush to take advantage.
Hardly coincidental.

For the record I would ask Southgate if he would want an interview. Sound him out and put him in the file for future consideration for the manager after this one. Assuming the one who gets the job this summer lasts 3-5 years we'll be looking again at some point.


6.) 13 Jan 2019 11:59:31
Good post shappy agree completely at the Poch point. Seems to be batting his eyes at us and entertaining the questions. Could simply have said he doesn’t want to talk about united. Very interesting. I think he’s interested tbh.


7.) 13 Jan 2019 14:48:55
I wouldn't touch Simeone with a barge pole. His football style is awful and he is definitely not what we need.


8.) 13 Jan 2019 15:48:02
The world cup adventure is a total myth, yes it appeared to be togetherness and played some good football, but the teams played. come on. half the fans could coach England to the semi final with that group

Tunisia - W
Panama - W
Belgium - L
Colombia - D (W on Pens)
Sweden - W
Croatia - L
Belgium - L.


9.) 13 Jan 2019 16:22:18
Yes England played against some teams at that world cup that would struggle in league two. No ones hailing Southgate as some tactical genius that's the love child of Menotti and Michels. But for the first time in over a decade there was a positive atmosphere around the England camp. Not the usual yeah were so great we expect to win but just relaxed and positive. He's cleared out some of the same old faces and looks to play positive pacy football with some of our players at the front of it. He's worth putting in the discussion and I'd have him ahead of the likes of allegri or simeone.


10.) 13 Jan 2019 21:08:08
That makes no sense. He could not even justifiably sit in the same. e car as Allegri or Simione. They are both brilliant managers and experts at using their resources. Southgate is good on atmospherics but otherwise nothing proved.


11.) 14 Jan 2019 07:19:25
There’s no way Southgate is appointed over Solskjaer now. I wouldn’t worry.


12.) 14 Jan 2019 08:27:26
Bringing in Southgate will probably revive all the "the players are not good enough, we must sell 8 and buy 9 new players" discussions on this site. They have been abcent the last weeks, even Jones/ Smalling are not mentioned as often as they used to be.


13.) 14 Jan 2019 09:02:19
Pochetino clearly looks like the best candidate right now, if he'll come. Southgate worth considering, but certainly should not be at the top of the list. If OGS can keep the positive performances coming, he should be ahead of Southgate.


14.) 15 Jan 2019 04:53:55
I just don't see in what world, in any way can people think Gareth Southgate is even close to being a candidate for the Man Utd job.
Maybe it's because i'm Scottish and didn't get swept up in the football coming home nonsense in the world cup where England beat (and only just on occasion) really poor teams and lost to anyone with any quality they played. There was no evidence of smart tactical changes or a great gameplan basically Harry Kane scored from a few set pieces that's it. The stars aligned for a run deep into the competition but none of that was due to the manager IMO. People will be calling for Tim Sherwood next.


 

 

19 Nov 2018 17:08:04
so if rumors are true and the following of

dave the save
rojo
smalling
jones
bailly
valencia
pogba
martial
sanchez
mata
herrera

rashford

all either not wanted or don't want to be here are true where does this leave us,

we can't just go out and buy 11 players in one window.

i might be over reacting but it doesn't look good atm.

bolger2

1.) 19 Nov 2018 18:11:07
Barring one or two that looks like just what we need. A clear plan, a clear out and significant investment.


2.) 19 Nov 2018 18:54:33
Things would look a whole lot better if we sold the majority of those players imo bolger.
I think you forgot darmian too mate. 😂
Ideally from that list ddg rash and martial stay. The rest won't be missed a great deal in reality they either don't play a lot or don't overly impress when they do or in the case of valencia mata and herrera there is no real significant improvement in them at this stage of their career.


3.) 19 Nov 2018 19:14:02
wouldnt have any sleepless nights if
rojo
smalling
jones
bailly
valencia
sanchez
mata
herrera
All these left.


4.) 19 Nov 2018 21:28:37
We have probably never sold or signed anywhere close to that many first team players in a window. 50% of them will still be here next September.


5.) 19 Nov 2018 21:33:45
Also Darmian. Good post Bolger, you've simply illustrated just how much work needs to be done. It won't be easy shifting this lot either because of their wages.


6.) 20 Nov 2018 09:43:58
Also Young missed off.

Id only keep about 6 out of all of them.


7.) 20 Nov 2018 10:41:50
Also we may have to play the free transfer market. Aaron Ramsey for example should at least be looked at.


8.) 20 Nov 2018 11:52:45
It's obvious isn't it?

It leaves us with a starting 11 of:

Romero, Dalot, Lindelof, Tuanzebe, Shaw, Matic, Fred, McTominay, Lingard, Lukaku and Young.

In a 433. Plus anyone we can sign, although we might not be able to convince many to sign if they see that many players jumping ship.


9.) 20 Nov 2018 16:17:22
Oh my word shappy all those players leaving and you still can't fit fellaini into your team. Maybe you should have the job above jose😂😂.


10.) 20 Nov 2018 23:50:30
Ken, Fallaini is on the bench waiting for the 70th minutes when we are a goal down.


11.) 20 Nov 2018 23:55:40
Don’t know why people are always quick to write Mata off our books. I know he’s past the point of improving but he still offers creativity where we currently lack it, gives 100% and consistently performs when played (which is hard to say of any United player at the minute) .

Would happily keep him as a squad player.


12.) 21 Nov 2018 09:40:43
Id keep Mata and Herrera. Good squad players. De Gea, martial, rashford are all must keeps. Pogba if he wanted to stay but if he doesn't move him on. The rest can go.


13.) 21 Nov 2018 13:14:17
Thats fair mort i'd agree with that.


 

 

26 Oct 2018 11:31:39
so martial apprently rejects a contract renewal why is anyones guess,


but if dave the save goes for a free we are screwed.

obviously its just rumours but we have to sign him up ASAP.

bolger2

1.) 26 Oct 2018 15:21:40
I have a good guess why. Because since signing for Utd his career has gone backwards, he has been messed around, plays well one week dropped the next. See's players playing worse than him picked because of their name and simply has had enough.

He has played the past few games, how about his treatment the past few years?

Yes he has been a passenger quite often, but who hasn't been in an attacking sense (or any sense for that matter)? Martial has it all, apart from a look of desire on his face when he plays and he can be wasteful in possession (more to do with others not being up to it) . But Sanchez played week in week out, Lukaku plays week in week out and have been far inferior overall. Rashford isn't fit to lace his boots but if the manager had to pick between them he would pick Rashford every time.

Martial has been wasted, he is not half the player he could be and if he signs a contract with Jose in charge he is a mug. Shame as I want our best players to stay, but that is why he hasn't signed yet imo.


2.) 26 Oct 2018 17:20:53
Martial wants out Sanchez does pogba does ddg does .
What's going on?


3.) 26 Oct 2018 22:22:01
jred
The brutal truth, I fear, is they are not queuing up to leave the club so much as to leave the manager. I think I would do the same if I were in their shoes.


4.) 28 Oct 2018 09:46:36
A player leaves and we are quote “screwed”!

No player or manager for that matter is above the club or too important to the club. We all want DDG to stay but if he doesn’t the club will replace him. Apart from DDG we have generally too many inconsistent players who seem flakey and want things all their own way. For years since SAF left we have lacked leadership on and off the pitch meaning players think they can get away with stuff. It needs addressing, clarity on who is in charge, the players or the manager. Take the not turning up for sponsors situation, it just highlights what a spoilt bunch they are.

Right now we need a firm hand at the helm, whoever is manager. I don’t believe we should change manager right now, but if we did do you really think the players will be allowed to carry on as they are? A strong manager would kick some out and they might be the ones who fanboys like, cue more weeping and vitriol. Players can behave like this when they think the manager is not on strong ground, they would probably play for a new manager for 12 to 18 months until something happened they didn’t like and it all starts again, we would then be like Chelsea.

If certain players are queuing up to leave, the club needs to be firm with them, manage them, get rid as needed, a player can never be bigger than the club, even the king was put on the transfer list by Busby.

{Ed025's Note - some good points there red man..


5.) 29 Oct 2018 10:44:31
red man the fact that dave has saved us at least 15 points per season for the last 5 years tells me how important it is to keep him.

how many keepers did we go through when the big dane left.

you could argue if we had a stong defense/ team but we haven't and we rely on him in nearly every match to save our bacon.

the chelsea game is prime example, pulls of a class save to deny luiz but our lack of marking and desire aloud Barkley to level it.


6.) 29 Oct 2018 15:08:30
He didn't save from Luiz did he? It came off the post i think, bolger. But yes, i agree with your point totally that we should try and keep him but if he decides to move on, i am sure there are other good fish in the pond. Its imperative that we find a suitable replacement.


7.) 29 Oct 2018 16:21:38
yes you are right, he saved the follow up shot that hit the post.


8.) 31 Oct 2018 10:26:01
Every team with title aspirations needs a top goalie. And they're certainly not ten a penny. Dave is the best there is. It could take years to replace him, just as it did Schmeichel. I wouldn't be so blase as to think we could replace him just like that.


9.) 02 Nov 2018 01:11:55
Neutral observer her but i'd tend to agree with RedMan - which is prob going to mean half of you will automatically disagree with him :-) But look how Shaw has improved since Mourinho gave him a kick up the backside. From the outside looking in, i'd say you have too many players who aren't hungry for success. Milner isn't the best player floating around but i'd take him over quite a few of your midfielders atm. Which is not to say Mourinho is blameless.


10.) 03 Nov 2018 16:01:55
An outsider. In as much as players power is not ideal for any club, Mourinho has a big portion in the problem at United. As a Chelsea fan it's not new to us as he always divide opinion even in the dressing rooms, set the players up against himself and then turn around to play the victim.
That said, Man United have so many quality players to be struggling this season, afterall the same set of players were the closest to City last season. The worst and the likely scenario is selling very talented players that would come back to hurt United. When United win it's Mourinho but when the results are not going well then he barbs his players openly. Naturally player will get agitated.
He's not the kind of manager that United need at this time IMO.


 

 

25 Jul 2018 22:56:45
Anyone else seen the apparent quote from maguire Saying he's confident of joining united. Paper quotes tho so highly doubtful but still a rumour.

bolger2

1.) 25 Jul 2018 23:49:55
Let's hope not, imagine seeing a team sheet and we've got smalling Jones and Maguire in a back 3. I'd stay well clear of Maguire, I'm hoping were still pushing to get an alderweireld deal sorted with spurs as ed002 has said. i'd be happy at the moment with a left back and a center back and we can look at right wing in January.

{Ed004's Note - I really hope we do not sign Maguire. I reckon it'll be a massive waste of money and in a year's time we will be talking about his replacement like Lindelof this year}


2.) 26 Jul 2018 00:06:07
Agreed ed, everyone talks about how good he is moving forward but what's the point in that if he can't defend. or he's wandered so far out of position he's not there to defend? We've already got a left winger who is constantly tracking towards the ball rather than excerting any energy making runs behind that everyone seems to want to keep, we don't need anymore players who are tactically unaware of the position they play in!


3.) 26 Jul 2018 05:47:51
It's on the cards.


4.) 26 Jul 2018 08:50:05
Varane and Giminez aren't available, Alderweireld is. For me them three are the only three we should be looking at. Varane I even have concerns about due to his injury record.

If we can't get any of them three then stick with what we have and give Tuanzebe a shot. As to be honest everyone else is much of a muchness and none a significant step up when you consider the cost. Bailly has been very good for us, Lindelof showed during the world cup and in the last ten games of last season that he can be very good. Jones when fit has been solid. Rojo and Smalling have their faults but do a job. And I'll say it again, I think Tuanzebe will be a superstar and I think he is ready to start playing games for the first team.

Any centre back we sign this summer is going to cost 50m+. So we if we sign one they have to be one of the absolute best or none at all.


5.) 26 Jul 2018 09:41:25
Agree shappy but would add thatwe go for someone who can give us service for a few seasons so no 29/ 30 + year olds.


6.) 26 Jul 2018 10:28:15
We’ve got a left winger who keeps tracking back towards the ball because our play is so ponderous he hardly ever gets balls played in behind at pace that he can run onto .

And instead of us playing. a high press, we drop off and he ends up playing left back so that when he does get the ball he’s 70 yards from goal .

As for Maguire, we don’t need another Jones / Smallimg especially for the money quoted.


7.) 26 Jul 2018 11:21:59
Cookyman, I would sign Alderweireld if any. But yes, I would avoid signing anyone over the age of 27/ 28 if it was me. The vast majority of players we sign over the age of 28 them to struggle with adapting. Sure there have been a few successes, Sheringham and Matic spring to mind. However, the majority of our successful transfers have been younger players who could grow into the club and they have tended to adapt easier.

Centre back is one area though I would be fine with signing a 29 year old who already had many years of EPL experience under their belt.

As I have said many time I have high hopes for Tuanzebe, so signing someone who won't block his path for more than a couple of years would be fine as long as he has a good loan to an EPL team this season.


8.) 26 Jul 2018 10:23:48
Ed, does this mean that Lindelof has been written off, completely?

{Ed004's Note - I wouldn't say written off. I just think it's very unlikely he will impress enough to become first choice cb at the club}


9.) 26 Jul 2018 11:30:45
our play is ponderous because only 2 players put the effort in to make runs without the ball (mata and lingard) . martial needs to make the runs if the players are making the pass or not if he makes the runs and they don't play the passes its not his fault but if he stands on the lefts back, strikers, or attacking midfielders toes all game then it is. stay wide and run in behind its why liverpool looked so good last year all 3 of their attacking players were all over the place keeping width and getting in behind on or off the ball if a ball is played or not. this is the desire and passion everyone craves so much its not just shown by making tackles or fouls its about running yourself into the ground for the cause even if you don't get the reward.


10.) 26 Jul 2018 12:01:27
I take your point Shappy but I think McGuire has come in for some undue criticism to be honest.

It remains to be seen if he's a viable target but I think he'd be a solid addition to our team. From what I've seen he's big, strong, very good in the air and good with the ball. He maybe lacks a yard of pace and I've heard people criticise his positioning at times but that's something that can be worked on and will prove with experience. I think he's better than what we've got (maybe Bailly apart) . He's got good pedigree and actually played in the FA youth Cup final against us with the likes of Pogba and Lingard. He's continued to improve at both Hull then Leicester and maybe he deserves a chance to play at a higher level. Sometimes we get seduced by more exotic names but I think he's a good solid player, at the right age that will continue to improve.

I think Lindelof was signed for the right reasons but I just think he lacks the physicality for the Prem League. If Jose isn't going to play him then maybe now is the time to cash in. He's had a good World Cup and I'm sure we'd get our money back at least. I'd definitely cash in on Rojo. He's perpetually injured and apart from a 15-20 game spell where he looked half decent playing next to Jones he's been pretty unspectacular to say the least. I think both Smalling and Jones are solid squad players and have served the club well. I fully agree about Tuanzebe but I'm not sure he's ready just yet.

In relation to the Martial saga just let the boy move on. It's obvious he isn't going to flourish under Mourinho and I see little point in keeping a player that is unhappy and isn't going to help the team. He may develop into a very good player but at the moment he's just not quite there and has shown little interest in fighting for his place. His next move will be crucial and if he's hankering for a move to the likes of Real or Bayern I'm certain he'll find himself in exactly the same position.

Maybe some kind of swap deal with Spurs for Son Heung-Min would interest all parties. He works tirelessly, he can play in any position across the top three including striker and scores goals.

Utd need to start getting creative if we want to see some transfer activity this summer.


11.) 26 Jul 2018 13:18:01
Tuanzebe really doesn't look ready yet for me, lot's of potential though.


12.) 26 Jul 2018 13:09:31
I would be happy to stick with Bailly and lindloff and the back and go for other positions.


13.) 26 Jul 2018 12:45:15
DLIB, I have nothing against the less exotic named or seemingly less spectacular signings. In fact in my experience they are often the ones that work out best.

However, I don't rate Maguire all that highly, and certainly not enough to spend 50-65m on him. He is a solid mid to upper half of the table player. He is strong and he has a big head. However, his positioning and reading of the game is terrible and for someone so big and strong his headed clearances often don't clear the danger area.

Leicester have been a far poorer side defensively with Maguire than they were in their title winning season.

Maguire could work in a three man back line, but we would be left wide open if we played him in a traditional back four.

Also for someone who is touted as a ball playing centre back last season for Leicester he averaged 46 passes a game with a success rate of only 78%. Smalling who is slated for his passing ability averaged 40 passes with a 87% success rate. Admittedly the reason for those stats are Smalling passes tend to be safer passes while Maguire attempts the more ambitious passes. Yet what is the point if you give the ball away more more often than not when you attempt those passes.

I don't see the fuss, if he was French, German, Spanish, Brazilian or Argentine not only would be not get the hype he is currently getting, but he would never get close to an international cap, let alone be the cornerstone of a nation teams world cup bid.

Smalling and Jones received the same hype before we signed them, however, I feel they were better players than Maguire is when we signed them.

If we have to sign an English centre back this summer I would much rather we signed Alfie Mawson, maybe not as big a lump for the high balls to hit, but ten times the defender Maguire is.


14.) 26 Jul 2018 16:25:54
Shappy - The exotic name thing wasn't aimed at you pal. In hindsight I should have omitted that. I just think Maguire is universally underrated on here but by no means am I saying he's the finished article. I think he'd be a decent signing but I understand your reservations and take your point about him maybe not being a major upgrade on we've already got. Anyway this site would be a boring place if we all had the same opinion.


15.) 26 Jul 2018 19:36:00
Why would Spurs swap one of their best players in Son for an inconsistent player like Martial. Makes no sense.


16.) 26 Jul 2018 22:45:23
Personally I think maguire looks a decent player. Big strong. Young at 25. Delivered on the big stage.
Yh he's come from nowhere but who had ever heard of vidic or Bailey? Cbs grow with experience a lot like gks. If he's being rated by some of the top scouts and coaches in the world then surely he's worth a look?


17.) 26 Jul 2018 22:49:22
I love how a lot of people are writing him off yet he played almost every game for England and we got to the semi finals. Is he a flash big name no is he a very good defender yes. Is Tuanzebe or TFM ready nope. I’d get rid of jones to get Maguire.


18.) 27 Jul 2018 08:19:10
He played almost every game for England at the world cup. England did badly at the world cup they played tunisia, Panama, Sweden, and a James Rodriguez less columbia. When we came up against any half decent side we were convincingly beaten I don't get why people think we did well? We bottled it. As for Maguire being a very good defender no he's not he's not bad but he's certainly not very good he leaves his defensive line way to often and has to make last ditch covering tackles which for some reason he gets credit for rather than being told he was in the wrong position to start. Finally tfm played a full season last year for palace, Leroy sane said he was the most difficult player he came up against why isn't he ready?


 

 

 

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17 Jun 2019 08:24:35
So you can't buy a top with pogba on the back on the United website he's not one of the options. Well you couldn't early this morning


Hopefully this doesn't drag in all summer.

bolger2

1.) 17 Jun 2019 09:09:36
When you post nonsense like this do you even check yourself?
The rumour came out yesterday about pogbas number and I could still get his name and number then as I can now.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 10:25:29
Incredible nonsense.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 11:07:04
If you buy a top with Pogba on the back you are either 7 years old, a fool or one of those vegetables who embraced the dab. Gives me the shivers.


4.) 17 Jun 2019 12:10:25
well FZZ the link i got sent was from today or i would have posted it yesterday hense the "early THIS morning comment"


 

 

06 Jun 2019 16:31:26
someone i know has said they have been told by someone who works within "the footballing circle"

what ever that means that we have offered sturridge a 3 year contract and it will be announced soon


i think he might be just on a wind up but hey ho there you go.

bolger2

1.) 06 Jun 2019 16:33:48
Of course its a wind up. He's injury prone garbage.


2.) 06 Jun 2019 16:44:42
anything is possible with woodward.


3.) 06 Jun 2019 17:04:44
I'd rather sign Marlon harewood.


4.) 06 Jun 2019 18:45:22
Hasnt he signed for that recently formed club in glasgow.


5.) 07 Jun 2019 09:50:36
Well we did sign Michael Owen.


 

 

22 May 2019 11:43:37
So rumours Dave has rejected our final contract becuase he wants 350k a week

Not being funny but if that's true and the club are not offering him another one then fair play.

Time and time again we have been shafted with players getting over payed.

Although he has been a great servant of the club and I would be gutted if he left but so but it. get some kind of profit on him and we move on.

bolger2

1.) 22 May 2019 12:03:59
If we get above 50m for him, it will be a good deal.
Invest in a keeper who can pass/ sweep like Ederson.
Personally, I would go for Jan Oblak.


2.) 22 May 2019 12:07:24
Utd survived and even thrived after the departures of Keane, Becks, Cr7, Ruud, Schmeichel, van der sar, Robo et al, surely we will survive if DdG leaves. He has paid his dues, if he leaves in a respectable manner he will forever remain dear to the fans.


3.) 22 May 2019 13:00:43
We have other areas of concern that need to be addressed before GK if De Gea goes. Romero is good enough to be number 1 for a season and then if required we can address the GK position again next summer. This gives Henderson a year of Prem football under his belt and a year for us to access other options.

Any money should be used to strengthen the positions where we require work now.

CB
RB
DM/ CM.


4.) 22 May 2019 13:08:51
Which club is going to buy him this summer?

We are obviously not going to sell to an english club, Barcelona have ter stegen, real have courtois and navas, neuer at bayern etc.

The big clubs who do need a goalkeeper (juve and psg), would they really pay a fee (say £50m for arguments sake), for a keeper with exorbitant wage demands who they can get for a free in a year?

Club most likely will keep de gea this summer and let him go on a free in the summer if they can't agree terms. This allows us to target areas that need strengthening this window like defence and then buy a goalkeeper the following summer.


5.) 22 May 2019 13:27:34
Let him go.

Romero and Henderson next season.

Henderson getting cups and Europa should be a good transition/ test to be the number 1.


6.) 22 May 2019 13:46:41
Is this according to the s*n? Come on lads, us this how dumb we have become.

Taking that rags word for it.


7.) 22 May 2019 14:59:46
Your seriously asking if PSG would spend money they didn't have to?

Can't really see United letting him leave on a free. Its different to Herrera because the club fumbled the ball an was late in offering a contract. If de Gea indeed has turned down the offer then they'll try and offload him. Might not get £50m but even £30m is better than £0.


8.) 22 May 2019 15:26:57
angelred that's why the post says "so rumour has it"

but your not telling me every rumour is made up

they obviously get tipped off on some things.

whys he not signed yet if that's the case.


9.) 22 May 2019 17:47:37
Sometimes our supporters baffle me.

The club bolloxed up the wage structure by bringing in a host of players looking for a massive wage, and then shafted themselves by paying a ridiculous wage for a player just to get one over City.

If you were De Gea, the best player in a poor team, and a bit part player was being paid a record wage, what would you ask for in your contract negotiations?

I’m sure all the heroes on here would like to think they’d be happy to play for minimum wage, and that there’s no reason why players should look for more than £50,000 a week. But the world of football is all about money, and the players are entitled to look for as much money as they can get. The club are the ones who decided to break the wage structure to bring in Sanchez, and now they have to deal with the fallout. So it’s not ‘fair play’ to the club. The club made a massive mistake bringing in Sanchez on those wages, and are now going to lose the best player at the club because of it.


10.) 22 May 2019 18:51:34
If he didn't have the form he's had for the past 15 months he'd be in a stronger position. He's a great shot stopper but weak in other areas. Improve the defence and midfield and don't concede as many chances on the edge of the area do we need a great shot stopper? Or would a good all rounder do as good of a job.

Woodward made a rod for his back but give in on this and everyone will be asking for the same.


11.) 22 May 2019 18:57:26
Danny 👏👏👏.


12.) 22 May 2019 19:11:28
I take the point Danny but surely it’s all about ego. Let’s assume we’ve offered him £200k a week, that’s £10M a year, probably for at least 3 years. How much money do you need? The Sanchez deal has put some noses out of joint but these guys do not live in the real world. DDG probably has more money than he will ever be able to spend. If he’s pining for home then fine, if he’s desperate for a new challenge then fine, if he’s sulking because of what Sanchez earns then not fine.

We’re not talking minimum wage here, we’re taking ludicrous amounts of money. I’m not picking on DDG, he just happens to be the subject of this thread.


13.) 22 May 2019 19:23:12
Danny are you suggesting that the club compound previous errors and nake a bigger rod for their back.
A mistake was made (probably several) now its time to correct it not make it worse.


14.) 22 May 2019 19:28:37
Well it is fair play Danny as you said we have been shafted because of high wages

Its about time the club actually stood firm and didn't give in to player and agents demands.


Especially when he hasn't played to a level to earn that kind of money.


15.) 22 May 2019 19:48:34
De gea hasn't played to a level to deserve that money, same as sanchez? Is this the same David de gea I've been watching over the past 5 years.

They messed up, but correct it by getting rid of the high paid flops.

Good rumours do have some substance, but not from the rag that is the sun. That's just a load of crap.


16.) 22 May 2019 20:16:25
Of course it's ludicrous money. But I never see people complaining about how many millions actors make for one movie. Like it or not, footballers are the talent, in an industry awash with money. I've no qualms with working class lads getting what they're worth. It can be a short career. Get as good a deal as they can. We all do it to a greater or lesser degree in our respective workplaces. I'd rather the money go to them, than agents and bureaucrats.

Of course, they have to be worth it in the first place. And DDG is, in my opinion.


17.) 22 May 2019 20:29:26
The point of all this is that the money will either go to the players, or the shareholders. If every player took a pay cut, it wouldn’t result in any benefits for supporters, it would just mean more profit for the clubs.

Clubs are, year on year, posting record profits. Why shouldn’t players be looking for the highest wage they can get when they’re the reason that people watch football?

Players are called greedy for trying to maximise their wage. Clubs are called shrewd for trying to maximise their profits.

United have to do something about the wage bill, and De Gea is going to move because of this. But we shouldn’t be talking about the club standing up to greedy players. We should be talking about how mistake after mistake over the last few years has created a situation where the club can’t afford to keep its best player.

The sensible thing to do is make sure that players who have proven themselves year after year are the top earners at the club. Otherwise it leads to situations like this.


18.) 22 May 2019 20:41:37
I've no issue with whatever any player gets, that is for the clubs hierarchy to decide

I just want to see players in a United shirt who give it their absolute all. Couldn't give a hoot what they get paid. De Gea is well within his rights to look for more money or equal to what other players are getting at the club. He is more than deserving in my eyes.

You're only worth what someone is willing to pay.


 

 

14 May 2019 00:50:48
So the technical director won't be expected to deal with player transfers just work as sky put it the GLUE between the manager and the board.



Wtf is the point in hiring someone then.

I don't get It.

bolger2

1.) 14 May 2019 06:17:09
The technical director is going to have input in signings, its just not going to be largely his responsibility as it was say with monchi at roma. That was hardly a roaring success.

We have a large scouting network, matt judge who deals with the financial aspects of the deal, the manager at the time and woodward who i assume has oversight and has the final say on whether a deal goes ahead. They all need to be on the same page and the director will help facilitate this.

The club needs to avoid a situation where managers are solely picking players they fancy, that is how you end up in a situation with daley blind, fellaini and zlatan all in the same team playing 3 completely different styles of football.

We haven't exactly had troubles doing transfer deals, its just we have been so haphazard with it, we end up with one of the most unbalanced and poorly put together squads in europe.


 

 

28 Apr 2019 13:47:48
We have no excuses now. Arsenal losing it's on our hands. If these players can't put in a performance now when needed then we have no hope.


3 finals nothing less than 100 percent.

bolger2

1.) 28 Apr 2019 19:59:32
Bolger, and true to form, we've blown it and looked totally unfussed with it. It is infuriating to watch overpaid idiots take the mickey in this way.


 

 

 

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17 Jun 2019 19:57:10
Doubt we will go again prob go for the Norwich guy now.

Can see this being a sham of a window and another season of dross.

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15 Jun 2019 17:10:17
If we spend 80 million on Maguire I am done.


Varane wants out and he is class 80 million would get varane if Madrid want pogba ask for varane as part of the deal.

Football manager tactics I know but still there are better defenders for 80 million out there.

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13 Jun 2019 08:10:00
Rossi even sky and there tomato sources know we are looking at at more than that.


The Ed's have said many times how many we loom to bring in.

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11 Jun 2019 17:13:08
bale actually played the most games since he joined them.

42 games and he scored 14 goals and got 6 assists.

when you actually see them numbers he's not as injured as we all think.

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11 Jun 2019 15:47:39
You need 2 quality players in each position to challenge on all fronts.

We miss out on awb will be very disappointing.

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17 Jun 2019 12:57:05
well maze i think its highly doubtful you could get say for example 6 players signed in a week or 2 unless all the pre medical stuff is done weeks in advanced .

they first have to approach the club with whom the player they want plays for even speak to the agent to see if the player is interested whether that breaks some rules i dunno. then once the fee is agreed the association of the selling club has to then contact the ITMS (how long that takes i dunno)

i am then almost certain fifa or uefa who ever it is have to give the go ahead for the transfer to continue its process

then you have to get the itc from the selling club then sort the players registration as well as a medical personal terms agent terms ect.

i just think 2 weeks wouldn't be enough to get all the deals done in good time.

you might be right it might be able to be done but that would make the window to hectic teams both selling and buying wouldn't be sensible imo


but if your right and it could happen i will hold my hands up.

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17 Jun 2019 12:10:25
well FZZ the link i got sent was from today or i would have posted it yesterday hense the "early THIS morning comment"

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17 Jun 2019 12:08:01
maze please explain how that "video game" comment of 2 weeks would make sense?

would you have 5 or 6 medicals done in 1 week

there is a reason its over the course currently as there is more to a transfer than just " yeah let's take him and sign" that and many more reasons.

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15 Jun 2019 17:43:01
If someone is stupid enough to give us 120-150 million for a player who plays well every in 1 in 10 games then they are bigger fools


You could make an argument to keep pogba but he doesn't even run games against relegated teams.


He is and always will be a player who has the skill to be one of the best but when you look back in 15 years know one will class him as a world class player and he's won the world cup.

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13 Jun 2019 12:09:10
ed hahaha.

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