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Favourite player: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer


Best team moment: 1999 Champions League final or Semi final at Old Trafford against Barcelona in 2008.


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29 Sep 2021 11:48:29
I wrote a reply yesterday explaining my position on time wasting in the villa game but for whatever reason it didn't get posted so thought I would try again.

If my post about it yesterday came across as an excuse for the result against villa then it definitely wasn't meant to at all, if you score early enough then you stop any chance of time wasting from the opposition anyway. Newcastle time wasted from the 5th minute of the game (Darlow was asked to speed up a goal kick that early which is madness) yet because we scored before half time it kind of got forgotten about but it happens a lot against the teams coming to OT to snatch a point or frustrate us and get a win.

My point is that time wasting shouldn't even be allowed to be a tactic but whilst it is teams will continue to use it to frustrate. The ball was in play for 45 minutes against villa out of 90, that's crazy, especially as Mike Dean knew this was happening as he told the keeper to speed up about 5 times with no caution.

I agree with Ken and have for a long time, rugby have it right, take the time off the refs, have a clock that everyone can see is stopped and let players take as long as they want for a goal kick or for rolling around on the floor because it's not affecting the time of the game. It will eradicate time wasting immediately and make the game better to watch in my opinion.

It certainly wasn't an 'excuse' about the villa game, although it did stop our momentum we should have been good enough to score one of our many chances, imagine how many shots we would have missed if the ball had actually been in play for some of the game!

Anyway, onwards and upwards, hopefully Villarreal come to play tonight rather than waste time, CL refs obviously clamping down on it more as Varane got booked in the Young Boys game the second he started to time waste. That's the only way to stop it if we don't have a total re-think on the time keeping.

GDS2

1.) 29 Sep 2021 12:01:17
It drives me mad GDS, there’s lots of gamesmanship like stealing 10 yards at a throw in, appealing for throws and corners when you know you touched it last, players throwing themselves to the floor clutching their face, rolling around like they’ve been shot and then running around like a racehorse 5 minutes later.

But time wasting is insidious and referees let players get away from it. The ball ends up with the keeper who waits for an opponent to approach, at which point he falls onto the ball and lies there for 20 seconds. Taking forever at goal kicks, changing your mind who is going to take a throw on or free kick. Substitutions where the player walks off from the furthest point on the pitch. Players staying down just to waste time, substitutions in added time for no reason other than to run down the clock.

They tried a 6 second rule with GKs but it didn’t last long, I thought it was a great idea, not sure how we fix it but something needs to give.


2.) 29 Sep 2021 12:02:36
GDS2 the average game of football the ball is only in play for 59 minutes in a 90 minute game so to be honest its not that much lower than the average game of football, it is coming across as an excuse but I do totally agree with time wasting is frustrating but it has been part of the game since the very beginning and at all levels, I have done it my self before I hung the boots up and became fat and old.


3.) 29 Sep 2021 11:59:32
GDS2. You watch if we are actually winning 1-0 with 5 mins to go we will do exactly the same, it ain’t going to change even a stopping clock as in Rugby or basketball etc all it will do is mean you miss the last bus home…. won’t make it anymore exciting I’m afraid

The team if good enough should be able to get the goals so this is not even a concern, look at Liverpool attack from 1st min to95min even though it pains me to say that, they are miles in front of us.


4.) 29 Sep 2021 12:36:02
I think 14 mins less is a lot dio- that’s a quarter of the time the ball was in play. Extrapolated that’s 22 mins.


5.) 29 Sep 2021 13:33:37
Jackanus,

You’ve missed my point once again, this isn’t a dig at opposition teams or saying united don’t do it, of course we do it, I literally said in my post we did it against Young Boys, why wouldn’t we when everyone does it against us? If you stopped the clock when teams are wasting time it would literally be pointless wasting time so I wouldn’t ‘miss the last bus home’ as time wasting would stop all together. I’d get to see a proper game of football, just think it’s an easy fix to a massive issue but the issue is ignored or not noticed by many.

How anyone can say 15 minutes less time than the average in play time isn’t a lot is beyond me, surely you can see that means they wasted 15 minutes of time in the game, how can that be right? I get that it’s a large part of the game dio but it’s mad that people accept that as just being how it is because it’s always happened. They change all sorts of pointless rules every year yet this is never looked at.


6.) 29 Sep 2021 15:18:27
Why wouldn't villa if others do it against them.
You can't try and justify united players doing it nobody should be doing it.


7.) 29 Sep 2021 15:27:46
How often do you see a goalkeeper kick from their hands and be outside of their area when striking the ball. I swear the keeper was completely out of his area on at least 1 occasion and nothing is ever picked up. What is the ruling on that? Is it intentional handball? Does anyone know?


8.) 29 Sep 2021 15:29:27
I not missed the point at all, maybe it gets overlooked and done for years because more important things in the game that’s wrong then someone taking longer to get ball in play

Some teams do it for tactical reasons some do if for a breather but I’m really not sure it would make much difference to the game if stopping clock system was used, in fact whilst watching united lately it would just prolong the agony for another 30-45 mins.


9.) 29 Sep 2021 15:35:59
I also hate it when we do it, it smacks of desperation. Its become a thing and it would be good to have it addressed but I don't see it happening.


10.) 29 Sep 2021 16:03:12
Same here Tony unfortunately, nothing will change, we have to find a way to score early and stop teams being able to do it, just a frustration of mine and many others.

Oh Ken, I know you agree with me yet you find it so hard to just say that, I wasn’t really justifying united doing it nor having a go at villa for it, I think the rules need to change so that it can’t happen, the refs should clamp down as soon as it starts as nothing will change with the ref and time keeping. Mike Dean told the keeper to hurry up at least 6 times on saturday, surely that means he is aware what he’s doing yet did nothing about it.

I don’t think you can really blame any team for doing it when the rules are there to make it worthwhile and all teams know the full amount wasted won’t be added on. Don’t get me started on it being exactly 4 minutes added when a ref has supposedly been stopping his watch.

I hate it when we do it, like I hate it when our players dive or Bruno pretends he’s broken his leg at least once a game, but while there is so much riding on games and players can get away with it it’s difficult to blame players, as frustrating as it is.


11.) 29 Sep 2021 18:23:38
Supasub no keeper handles the ball outside the area. They release the ball before they are over the line often kicking it a yard or 2 outside the area. No offence there so not sure what your complaining about.


12.) 29 Sep 2021 18:27:50
So if its difficult to blame players you can't certitude the villa players then surely?
It is the refs that need to take action don't moan at the villa players. It's so the same. I agree Bruno is pathetic the way he rolls around. Footballers cheat and will cheat at every given opportunity. United players cheat.
How often have you been in your seat at old Trafford and shouted at ddg to hurry up with his goal kick when we are 1 up? Or had a go at a united player for cheating / diving etc?


13.) 30 Sep 2021 00:37:37
Ken. I think you just don't read posts. I'm on about a keeper kicking from their hands not throwing it forward a few yards. At the weekend the keeper for villa was completely out of his area with what appeared to be both feet kicking from his hands. I've tried to make it as clear as possible. I see it fairly often but the one at the weekend was very clear.


14.) 29 Sep 2021 11:59:32
GDS2. You watch if we are actually winning 1-0 with 5 mins to go we will do exactly the same, it ain’t going to change even a stopping clock as in Rugby or basketball etc all it will do is mean you miss the last bus home…. won’t make it anymore exciting I’m afraid

The team if good enough should be able to get the goals so this is not even a concern, look at Liverpool attack from 1st min to95min even though it pains me to say that, they are miles in front of us.


 

 

29 Aug 2021 21:16:23
Phenomenal performance, deserved victory, imagine adding Ronaldo and Rashford to a side that good, city must be crapping themselves 👀.

GDS2

{Ed018's Note - should’ve lost today if Wolves could finish. Should’ve been match over inside of 12 minutes}


1.) 29 Aug 2021 21:25:40
From the reports I've read, I made the right choice in putting up the hanging baskets for the gf 😂😂.

Seriously, we need to play better. We got away with it today.


2.) 29 Aug 2021 21:36:15
If anybody anywhere thinks Ole is a manager that can bring success to this team, i advise them to seek help for their delusions. I cannot watch a team so obviously devoid of ideas and coaching anymore.

At some point this season, the penny will drop and he will be gone, until then it is mediocrity.

If he stays long enough he could turn Ronaldo into Dan James.

{Ed014's Note - City must be crapping themselves! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Can’t beat sarcasm, lowest form a wit but it’s a start. 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣


3.) 29 Aug 2021 21:54:15
Oh dear, I thought the emoji made it clear this was a joke. Ed, how Arsenal getting on?

{Ed014's Note - hence the reason I laughed and repeated what you said, please try and keep up ffs! 🤦‍♂️


4.) 29 Aug 2021 23:55:20
You won't hear me complain or look for negatives after we win.
Positives were varane looked very comfortable on the ball and made an error or 2 but never let it bother him and made some key challenges and was imperious in the air.
Ddg did what he does best and played sweeper keeper well when required. Yet another match / points winning performance from him.
A clean sheet. We rode our luck but they didn't score.
Mason scoring again this guy is still only 19. He has all the talent to become a superstar imo. Physically he is still developing and in 2 years time we will hopefully see a powerhouse with 2 great feet and a greed and instinct for goals and my one wish is for him to inherit and adapt Ronaldos professionalism and work ethic and dedication to his game and self.
Loads of negatives from today but 3 points overrides that today for me.
If it keeps happening and the wins don't come then that's when I'll be accentuating the negatives.
3 points overrides all for the mostpart imo.


5.) 29 Aug 2021 22:01:40
Most effective too.


6.) 30 Aug 2021 07:37:06
If you don't fix the negatives, how do you improve?


7.) 30 Aug 2021 08:48:35
Wolves will get better, they played us out of the park for majority of the game.
Raul Jimenez looked a shadow of himself after a long term injury
He will get better and their fixtures will be easier.
Even they have a better coach than us.


8.) 30 Aug 2021 09:03:41
I agree grim but that's the managers job. If we keep getting 3 points it would be churlish to keep going on about them. But if the 3 points stop and the crap play doesn't then we have an issue.


9.) 30 Aug 2021 11:23:07
Yea think that’s it ken, it’s always said that winning when you don’t play well is the sign of a good team, but if we never play well that becomes a little tiresome and it’s impossible to keep getting away with it like we did yesterday. Somehow we continue with the amazing away record though and with Ronaldo and Rashford to add to the side things can only get better.


 

 

26 Aug 2021 11:45:09
25 years today since we signed a certain Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, I watched all of his goals again the other day and what a striker he was for us. I always tried to model my game on him and used to watch his technique on finishing for years to improve my own. So many times the commentators mentioned how good he was and how he just couldn't stop scoring. Some of his goals were truly phenomenal finishes as well, I think people forget that.

Just to note, this post is about Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, the United playing legend, I have deliberately not mentioned anything since then.

GDS2

1.) 26 Aug 2021 12:04:04
Okay. Well continue enjoying all his goals then because that's the only thing of significance that he will be remembered for during his time at United.


2.) 26 Aug 2021 12:10:25
My fav player as a teenager 👌🏻.


3.) 26 Aug 2021 12:37:12
He did well and was a good servant he was a good squad player i'd put him in the same bracket as o shea butt Phil neville. Scored some lovely goals and was a decent finisher. Could perhaps have achieved more with the talent he had bit of a nearly man like David fairclough at Liverpool or wiltort at arsenal.


4.) 26 Aug 2021 13:04:10
Jesus Ken, Wiltord at Arsenal! It’s clear Ole has upset you but take your blinkers off! A fantastic player for us, won us the European cup and an absolute gem of a striker!


5.) 26 Aug 2021 12:34:43
One of my all time favourite players - and I was a huge George Best fan . Really didn't want him to take the managers job as i thought it was way too big for him.

Superb player, one of SAF s best ever buys.


6.) 26 Aug 2021 13:36:17
ken you don't half make me laugh.


i get you don't like the guy but he was more than a good squad player in my opinion

as a player he is up there with the likes of yorke cole


he was a major part in the clubs success through out the 90s and if you check he was playing 25 games plus regular maybe more were sub than starting.

saved us in the fa cup against liverpool and you know just won us the little UCL.

i respect your opinion but he was more than a squad player. miles above the likes of oshea and p neville.


7.) 26 Aug 2021 13:48:32
Haha Ken, never fail to amaze me.

Wiltord scored 31 goals for Arsenal, Fairclough scored 34 for Liverpool, Ole scored 91 goals for united, just for clarity.

Maybe go and watch his goals, you’ll see he was a lot better than you give him credit for. Injuries towards the end of his career stopped him from getting to 100 for the club really.

Love_united, he scored a lot of goals and won a lot of trophies with the club so if that is what he is remembered for then fantastic, I thought the post would bring out the haters but thought it might be a few posts down rather than the first response, I deliberately said it was about his playing career to try and stop that kind of response.


8.) 26 Aug 2021 13:49:51
Chris, must have been one hell of a player then Ole if he won us the European Cup all by himself. Must have been great in goal, defence, MF and striker all in one. Schmeichel, Keane, Beckham, Cole, Scholes etc take note. What were all you there for?

Ole, a good man to come off the bench when the team needed a goal. Much like Chicharito was for us.


9.) 26 Aug 2021 14:00:57
Ole was a very good striker, excellent finisher and fantastic work rate. Gave everything he had for our club, and injuries probably stopped him achieving more. He was a fantastic player.


10.) 26 Aug 2021 14:06:26
he actually played a lot of games earlier in his united career, came 2nd or 3rd in the charts one season behind shearer if i remember.


11.) 26 Aug 2021 14:12:32
he was a great player for us, what a goal scorer. His winner against Liverpool in the FA cup was one of my favourite moments.

I didn't really won't him to be the utd manager because I thought it would tarnish the memory of him as a player. Now he is the manager, I will support him as much as any player who pulls on the utd shirt, as that is what fans should do.


12.) 26 Aug 2021 14:34:01
bolger2 he was a good striker but be realistic: in the same breathe as shearer really!
detest AS but he scored 30 + goals season after another and the man played with dodgy knees for 4-5 years.
Ole was/ is probably a better person but as said earlier a very good impact player off the bench.
I think some supporters fail to remember that when looking at his managerial carreer at the club.


13.) 26 Aug 2021 16:03:35
91 goals in how many seasons 8 or 10? Not a great return . Goals per game wiltord? V ole?


14.) 26 Aug 2021 15:20:34
i said he finished the charts one year behind shearer not that he was as good as shearer come on.

just stating he was more than an average squad player

shearer was different class to ole

this post had nothing to do with his career as manager.


15.) 26 Aug 2021 16:15:25
Ole averaged 10 goals per season. I think martial has that. His numbers are well below average for a top striker at a top club
Made less apoearances than o shea and butt.
Strikers often get remembered for magic moments that often clouds peoples memory.
Ronaldo would not make it into my top 10. Nor would Rooney Cantona just about. People see different things. I see 91 goals over 9 season. 235 appearances over 9 seasons. Over 70 of this as a sub.
Not an all time great for me. Cl final aside he did score some good goals but not even in the same zone as the likes of big Pete or Edwin for me.
Compare those numbers to Rooney shearer Henry kane aguero they are/ were great strikers. Ole was a good squad player like his numbers prove.


16.) 26 Aug 2021 16:31:30
Probably easier to do it by minutes played Ken as you mentioned yourself Ole came off the bench a lot so minutes played / 90 to create a full game gives a better picture obviously.

Ole played 154 full league games and scored 91 so a goal every 1.69 games, pretty good record if you ask me.

Wiltord played the equivalent of 80 full games and scored 31, a goal every 2.6 games, also a good record but not close to Ole’s.

When you say 8-10 seasons it’s more like 7 because of injuries towards the end meant he didn’t really play. I know you’ll find a way of arguing with the stats above but maybe it’s time to accept he was a very good player, an amazing finisher and perhaps just not a great manager, otherwise you’re starting to come across very bitter about him which I don’t quite understand.


17.) 26 Aug 2021 16:36:31
Funky,

Match going reds have been putting him in the same breath as Shearer for the last 25 years, “Alan Shearer was f***ing dearer, please don’t take my Solskjaer away”.

Probably Ole’s 2 best seasons were the ones after 99, 99/ 00 and 00/ 01, some of his goals in them seasons were phenomenal and it surprised me that he scored 60%+ of his goals for us after the winner in 99. I definitely recommend giving the goals a watch, brought back some great memories.


18.) 26 Aug 2021 17:14:06
I know you are an accountant but that's the worst representation of numbers I've seen in a while.
If you take out the games he didn't start you must remove the goals he scored as a sub🤣🤣 pretty dence.
He was a sub so often because the manager thought others deserved to play more because they gave more to the team i'm sure.
Averaged 25 games a season or about 17 starts a season so he started less than a third of our games on average.
You can't say he was only here for 7 because he was injured. All players suffer injuries.
His numbers are below average for a striker at a top club for 9 years.
But they are decent numbers for a squad player which is exactly what he was.
I actually thought he had 1 great season playing in place of becks on the right for a time. He could cross well on the run.
17 starts on average plus 8 as a sub average. 10 goals a season average.
As I say decent squad player stats well below what you would expect from a top cf at the best team in England for most of his time here and in Europe for 1 year.
He did not win us the cl. He scored a winning goal. How many mins did he play in the competition that year?
You think he was fantastic that's your perogative but the numbers say very much the opposite and that's how I remember him. I was at the 99 final I cheered him like everybody else. That was his moment. Just like when wiltord scored the goal to win arsenal the league.


19.) 26 Aug 2021 17:34:18
gds2 - I have shouted that at ot god knows how many times fella. lol
My reply to bOlger was that he simply wasnt the same standard as AS in terms of continued seasonal goals scored- very few were although as said its widely regarded that shearer as a person is far from well liked: respected but still an arragant So and so.


20.) 26 Aug 2021 17:41:56
I remember him score 4 goals as a sub in 13 minutes. Only reason he didn't scored more goals was that he played mostly as a sub and united played with 4 strikers on a rotation. Its hard to believe this is a Manchester united page.


21.) 26 Aug 2021 18:31:29
Ole was a very good striker who suffered from some bad luck.

He had the Yorke/ Cole partnership keeping him out of the line up for 3 seasons.

Then the club signed RvN and switched to a single striker system. Ruud was just phenomenal at scoring and you just couldn't keep him out of the line up.

By the time Ruud left Solskjaer's knees were pretty much knackered and he was fit for maybe 10-12 games a season and couldn't be relied on.

His final 2-3 years he only scored a few goals due to how limited his playing time was due to the constant injuries.

He scored:

19 in 96/ 97
9 in 97/ 98
17 in 98/ 99
15 in 99/ 00
14 in 00/ 01
25 in 01/ 02
15 in 02/ 03
1 in 03/ 04
11 in 06/ 07

He spent most of the 03/ 04 season out injured and the same in 04/ 05 and 05/ 06 which is why he didn't score in those season's.

01/ 02 he had a great season. In all the other season's he played second fiddle and still scored respectable numbers.

I think he was a great player, who was a tad unlucky not to play more for us.


22.) 26 Aug 2021 18:45:40
Wow, the level of disrespect for on here quite absurd, he was a fantastic servant to the club and like it or not a legend at our club. And ogs will be leaving the club in much much better shape than he found it, if indeed he falls short and leaves. I suppose some on here would like to be still signing Fellini’s, matic’s and rojos of the world.


23.) 26 Aug 2021 19:23:04
Shappy according to records he scored 91 goals for the club. You and the dodgy accountant need to work on your numbers your a right pair like cannon and ball.
The united official site says he scored 91 goals his Wikipedia says he scored 91 goals but you come up with a different set of numbers altogether.


24.) 26 Aug 2021 19:26:48
Imagine comparing ole to martial.

Ole. produced every week, scored big goals and produced against the big teams


I think some peoples hatred towards him as a manager has tainted their view on him as a player.


25.) 26 Aug 2021 20:10:23
Ken, you just got third on your degree for using Wikipedia 😂

You shouldn't trust a source that can be altered by literally anyone. Also Wikipedia can't even be consistent. At the top of the page it says he scored 91 goals for United, then in the first paragraph it says he scored 126.

I'm assuming the 91 is league goals and doesn't include for example his goal in the UCL final in 99.

He has a career total of 126 goals in all competitions for United.

So my accountancy skills are just fine, your research skills could do with a brush up though 🤣.


26.) 26 Aug 2021 20:31:14
Not at all bolger.
What more do you want he was a good player he played his role in the squad over his 11 seasons he never nailed down a starting place.
He played less than o shea and butt. None of that is hatred its just the facts. I class him the same as them as did our greatest ever manager in terms of the role they played in the squad. Very reliable when needed either for a 20 min cameo or for a sustained period of games. A good squad player in the best and dominant team in the country. No shame in that. His numbers are quite clear. 91 goals epl. There are loads of players that have broke the 100 barrier he is not one because he was never really 1st choice over 11 seasons. But he did well with the role he was given as a support player.
Yes he scored a couple of majorly vital goals but forwards do that. Butt may have stopped twice as many against but its not as in your face.
No hatred just my honest assessment devoid of emotion based on my reflection and the figures and stats.
If I were to list my top 10 players nobody would agree with my list or my reasoning as its my personal choice. Ronaldo wouldn't be in it nor would Rooney or rio but I don't hate them.


27.) 26 Aug 2021 20:31:14
Not at all bolger.
What more do you want he was a good player he played his role in the squad over his 11 seasons he never nailed down a starting place.
He played less than o shea and butt. None of that is hatred its just the facts. I class him the same as them as did our greatest ever manager in terms of the role they played in the squad. Very reliable when needed either for a 20 min cameo or for a sustained period of games. A good squad player in the best and dominant team in the country. No shame in that. His numbers are quite clear. 91 goals epl. There are loads of players that have broke the 100 barrier he is not one because he was never really 1st choice over 11 seasons. But he did well with the role he was given as a support player.
Yes he scored a couple of majorly vital goals but forwards do that. Butt may have stopped twice as many against but its not as in your face.
No hatred just my honest assessment devoid of emotion based on my reflection and the figures and stats.
If I were to list my top 10 players nobody would agree with my list or my reasoning as its my personal choice. Ronaldo wouldn't be in it nor would Rooney or rio but I don't hate them.


28.) 26 Aug 2021 21:23:24
The whole thread was referring to his 91 league goals shappy I've said epl goals in a post above.
Its not your accountancy i'm worried about. As I said above he played his role as a squad player well. Our greatest ever manager never really gave him a sustained starting berth. So he started about a rd of our games, less than the other strikers. He spent the vast majority of his career as a supporting player. That's just a simple fact. You might look back and think he was unlucky to have better players ahead of him I don't I think he found his niche and aborted preferred to be a squad player here rater than a no1 at a lesser club.
Who can blame him we were a successful team back in those days and he played his part in those days just not as often as butt and other for example but as a forward he got a few really special goals.


29.) 26 Aug 2021 22:59:45
Anyway, good discussion guys and happy anniversary to one of our greatest ever strikers who will go down in our history, interesting that the people who dislike him as a manager didn’t like him as a player either, must be a coincidence.


 

 

01 Mar 2021 15:12:31
I don't usually do this and I don't know if I missed where it happened or if he / she has just started posting on here but welcome to Ed077, you've been adding a lot to the site, giving balanced views to what people are saying and keeping everyone in line without being disrespectful which to be honest is a breath of fresh air. Don't know if you're an old poster that has got the job of editor but it is good to see someone balancing out opinions, the site will be (and has already started to be) much better for it in my opinion.

GDS2

{Ed077's Note - I was enjoying the site until Shaps, Red Man and the likes started writing a thesis esque posts lol. 🤣🤣.

And thanks for the kind word GDS.}


1.) 01 Mar 2021 15:46:54
Absolutely GDS2.
Ed077, We are happy to see a United supporting editor involved in the debates.

{Ed077's Note - what gave you the idea I am a United supporter.😉😜


Ed004 has long been here and he's a Man United supporter.}


2.) 01 Mar 2021 16:03:24
Ed077 I just thought you were really bored in lockdown with the amount of replies 😂

There's been some good conversations recently if you filter out the doom and gloom.

{Ed077's Note - well lockdown hasn't been a thing here for quite sometime mate. 😁😁}


3.) 01 Mar 2021 17:20:56
Agree with GDS, very balanced and sensible views.


4.) 01 Mar 2021 18:32:23
Ed077, that "slippy G" comment somewhere down proved it :)

{Ed077's Note - I never said slippy G. Thats just the Mandela effect TRD. But I did say I wouldn't be disappointed if Rangers slipped up against Slavia Prague in the Europa league.😂}


5.) 01 Mar 2021 19:17:02
I'm ed077 and kens ed047👍.


6.) 01 Mar 2021 18:41:57
Yeah that one, lol Ed :)

{Ed077's Note - well on that thread I did say I support Man Utd TRD. I was just trying to pull you leg}


 

 

31 Jan 2021 16:25:43
Rodgers should be sacked now, losing to a team as poor and obvious to play against as Leeds he has to go, he can only be described as a managerial dunce. Or maybe it's just a weird season? Who knows.

GDS2

1.) 31 Jan 2021 16:28:33
I went on the Arsenal chat yesterday as ours was then usual neg fest, interestingly their's had a completely different vibe.


2.) 31 Jan 2021 16:30:22
Definitely not you GDS2 mate.


3.) 31 Jan 2021 16:53:56
Herrera,

It was just tongue in cheek mate, reading down the page there is a lot of bolloxology so thought I’d join in.


4.) 31 Jan 2021 17:00:50
We need you and the Care Bears back at Old Trafford GDS2. Ole is missing the Care Bear Stare!


5.) 31 Jan 2021 17:08:55
But you made a point GDS2. That another manager lost at home etc so it is a weird season.
But why didn't you see that another manager like Bielsa with a championship level squad plays always on the front foot and doesn't afraid?
You must always see the best and trying to compare with them and see what they do right instead of comparing with unsuccessful teams. But i said it again, we put the bar so low that our manager can jump it.


6.) 31 Jan 2021 17:11:11
Mumbles,

I’d love to be back at the stadium, sure a lot of the match going reds are the same, it’s a huge miss from a fan point of view but also I think a lot of the games are lacking intensity because of it, especially our home games. Interestingly away wins are so much higher than normal this season so it definitely is making a difference. Very hard season to analyse because of that and hard to compare to other seasons, obviously the last week has been poor but we’ve all said for weeks let’s just enjoy the ride, there will be ups and downs for all teams in this odd season.

I must say I am just glad football is on as it is a huge respite from what is going on in the world and the first lockdown when football wasn’t on was much harder in my opinion, I am enjoying the games for what they are but it’s not the same for me not being at the games and never will be the same experience until we are back where we belong.


7.) 31 Jan 2021 17:53:53
It is a weird season and that probably explains why we're so high up the league despite playing horrific football.


8.) 31 Jan 2021 19:24:41
If Leicester had spent a billion on players over the last 6 years too I’d agree gds if it was a normal season with fans etc I’d guess we’d be 3 or 4 places lower.


9.) 31 Jan 2021 20:00:00
If there were fans I think our home form would be better, as I said it’s really hard to analyse and you can’t predict that with any confidence Stand. You may well be right.

People always respond to my posts like I think Ole is amazing when I really don’t, I don’t think he’s the long term solution and I’ve said many times I’d have been happy to see him go after the game in Istanbul, but the form has turned around since then and as it stands we are a long way from the club sacking him.

He’s not a bad manager, he’s also not a great manager and that’s the problem we find ourselves with. He will probably get top 4 and keep his job, that means we as fans don’t have much choice but to hope that he continues to get results and grows himself with the young lads, he’s going nowhere so demanding it every time we don’t win a game just seems pointless to me, I’m obviously in the minority on here though which is fine.


10.) 31 Jan 2021 20:11:23
Thats excuses GDS2. It seems that we only suffer without fans in our stadium because i see other teams are decent. At the other hand, as you say, our away form would be much worst if there were fans.
The only truth is that he is not good enough long term so he is not good enough in the short term too. At summer he will be here 2.5 years, are they 2.5 years well spend? 2,5 years wasted, with other manager we would be so much better.


11.) 31 Jan 2021 21:45:16
GDS2, Manchester United should not have a manager in Charge who is "not great". It really is as simple as that. He got to manage Manchester United. He was given the job like it was a Make A Wish Foundation winner. We are simply existing as a football club right now.

Seeing posts like "the squad is poor, what do you expect" or "other X, Y and Z team are struggling, get over it" to me is a defeatist attitude. Fans are settling for mediocrity. We have the capacity as a club to compete at the top but from the top down we're amateurish. Because the people that make the decisions are incompetant doesn't mean our manager gets a free pass.

Would we settle for a "not great" goalkeeper? Or Defender? We just shipped a not great Lingard to West Ham.

If Jose was in charge for Ole's tenure, same team, same transfers, same results. He would be absolutely roasted. It's tedious this debate but if Ole was doing his job properly there wouldn't be a debate.

We're simply existing as a club because our manager is holding us back.


12.) 31 Jan 2021 21:54:14
Mumbles,

I totally agree and definitely agree the debate is tedious, as I said whatever we say on here the club aren’t going to sack a manager who is 2nd in the league, it just isn’t going to happen. Apparently today liverpool are back in the title race, we are a point above them but people want the manager sacked, I understand but it’s not going to happen so it’s fairly tedious and pointless.

Herrera,

We are far from the only team suffering without fans in our stadium, Brighton just won their first home game of the season on the last day of January, Sheff United were great at home last season until they had no fans, there are far more away wins all round this season than there has ever been, it’s not an ‘excuse’, it’s a reason for teams not doing well at home, causation and correlation spring to mind, unless you think it’s a coincidence?


13.) 31 Jan 2021 22:34:36
You do the same GDS2. You compare us with Brighton or Sheff. What about City and Liverpool who are first and second in the home league table? Are they have fans in their stadium?
We are below tenth in the home league table. It is nothing to do with having fans or not. The problem is at our home we have to play with the ball most time and we have no idea what to do . In none of our 10 home games we were superior-far superior than our opponents except Leeds. that's not the fans, its manager.
*It works both ways. If as you say we would be better at home with fans we would be worst away from home . If we stop this excuses maybe we will see the real problem.


14.) 31 Jan 2021 22:36:46
One more thing. Braighton had no problem to dominate most matches like us Chelsea Fulham's and today with Spurs and they were unlucky and lacking something in the final third. It is nothing to do with fans.


15.) 31 Jan 2021 23:50:03
Herrera,

I’ve got no idea what your argument is really, I haven’t said that we would have more points if there were fans, obviously it works both ways, but I’m saying that having fans in a stadium 100% makes a difference, have you never heard of having home advantage? Why do you think normally home teams have a much better chance of winning? of course it makes a difference.

Just because you’ve decided I’m using it as an ‘excuse’ which I’ve specifically said I’m not doesn’t mean that I am, I’m aware there are other issues, I’m also aware that having fans in a stadium makes a difference. If you think it’s a coincidence that’s fine, I’m pretty confident that it isn’t.


16.) 31 Jan 2021 23:51:20
Do you think united playing at a full Old Trafford have more chance of winning a game against Liverpool than a game at a full Anfield? Why is that?


17.) 01 Feb 2021 10:52:59
I'd love to have seen the reaction of a full OT when Utd were stinking the place out against Sheffield.


18.) 01 Feb 2021 12:34:44
Me too Mancman, though I think the intensity would have been much higher with fans in, doesn’t look too likely we will have a full OT this season unfortunately but I can only imagine the buzz for the players if we did.


19.) 01 Feb 2021 14:48:05
Not having fans is a fact for all teams. And yes that's an excuse GDS2. Its an excuse who doesn't let you see the real and big problem. That we are a counter attacking team who has no idea what to do against team sitting deep.


20.) 01 Feb 2021 16:13:53
I never once used it as an excuse for crying out loud, I think that games are lacking intensity because of a lack of fans and that is meaning more away wins than usual. I don't need an excuse as I am not making a point that requires one.


21.) 01 Feb 2021 16:15:40
Liverpool lost their home game against Burnley, I think with fans in they don't lose that game, something about the atmosphere at Anfield with the fans in, not an excuse, just a point I am making.


 

 

 

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LLV,

Don’t talk sense mate, he’s a clown and everyone on here knows better.

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Red,

I think MH probably knew that and still didn’t agree. Diogo Dalot has completed more dribbles this season than Dan James, he’s played 1 minute.

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I watched him at the Euro’s and he was exactly the same player he is for united, just playing in a worse team so he stood out a bit more. Ran a lot, worked hard, terrible end product.

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That’s assuming we don’t push for a midfielder as well.

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15 Oct 2021 10:05:26
Dodgy,

Don’t take a step back mate, it’s good to come on here and read opposite opinions and appreciate how other people see it. You might be the only one on that’s posting on here but you certainly aren’t the only one in real life, Ole still has plenty of support even if it’s wavering because of the performances.

I’d argue like Ken says that if you can’t see the positives over the last 3 years then you are deliberately ignoring them or also know nothing about the game, just like if you can’t see the negatives just the same. I’d say it’s probably the former rather than the latter as to post on here we clearly love the game and know a lot about it and the irony is unreal.

I think the players we have now should be playing a lot better than they are, the performances have not been good this season and Ole is showing that he doesn’t know how to get the best out of the current squad. We have made good signings but too many in attacking positions and it’s left us totally unbalanced and having to leave too many important players out each week but also leaving weaker players in the middle. Time is running out but he needs to find a system that works very quickly and prove us all wrong, if he can do that in the next few days / weeks he will keep his job for the season and we might even challenge, if he doesn’t we will see ourselves mid table, out of Europe and probably with a new manager by Christmas.

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LLV,

Think you need to watch that goal again, he deliberately passes to Ronaldo before being tripped by the defender, it was a fantastic and important assist.

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Dodgy,

Don’t take a step back mate, it’s good to come on here and read opposite opinions and appreciate how other people see it. You might be the only one on that’s posting on here but you certainly aren’t the only one in real life, Ole still has plenty of support even if it’s wavering because of the performances.

I’d argue like Ken says that if you can’t see the positives over the last 3 years then you are deliberately ignoring them or also know nothing about the game, just like if you can’t see the negatives just the same. I’d say it’s probably the former rather than the latter as to post on here we clearly love the game and know a lot about it and the irony is unreal.

I think the players we have now should be playing a lot better than they are, the performances have not been good this season and Ole is showing that he doesn’t know how to get the best out of the current squad. We have made good signings but too many in attacking positions and it’s left us totally unbalanced and having to leave too many important players out each week but also leaving weaker players in the middle. Time is running out but he needs to find a system that works very quickly and prove us all wrong, if he can do that in the next few days / weeks he will keep his job for the season and we might even challenge, if he doesn’t we will see ourselves mid table, out of Europe and probably with a new manager by Christmas.

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