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Favourite player: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer


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17 May 2019 20:09:10
Can't help but think Solskjaer is going to end up 'taking one for the team' if the rumours of who we are looking to sign are true. We would have a good young squad next season but will likely not challenge for much but play some decent football with hopefully young players who want to play for us and will put in 100%. We would then see whether the fans are actually happy with decent football and effort or whether results do matter.

Unfortunately the fans will demand immediate success and I can see Solskjaer being the fall guy that leaves a much better, younger team than he found.

GDS2

1.) 17 May 2019 20:34:15
you make a good point GDS. i was thinking something similar today looking at the youngsters we seem to be targetting. perhaps ole is setting up or building a young and hungry squad for the next manager to reap the rewards. just a thought.


2.) 17 May 2019 20:50:43
I think the vast majority of fans would be OK with a younger squad that plays decent football and has heart. We are in no position to challenge for major honours at the minute, but if there is a clear direction we are heading, I don't think the fans would object.


3.) 17 May 2019 20:53:04
We have had 6 season of dross with 0 plan.


If the past few days are anything to show is that it actually looks like we are planning for the future

Young exciting players have been something we have been crying out for


Maybe ole is actually PLANNING for the future and us as fans will just have to support the boys and see where it takes us.

Take ajax for instance there first title in 5 seasons. That's the blueprint to aim for.


4.) 17 May 2019 21:14:39
Young players need top quality experienced players to guide them. The reason the class of 92 excelled was that there was a bedrock of experienced players already in the squad.

Ole is right to be looking toward young players, but if he drops them into our current squad it will be a disaster. It’s nothing to do with expecting immediate results, it’s about building a team in the right way.


5.) 17 May 2019 22:24:00
“Decent football and effort or whether results matter”. Why can't you have both, city and liverpool most certainly do.

Obviously just focusing on results is foolish as there is a process involved and we all know from the past years results gained from poor performances is unsustainable.

But the trend of modern football is showing you can both aim to play entertaining modern football and get results.


6.) 17 May 2019 22:44:52
DSG,

You certainly can and that is obviously the long term aim.

People on here would be happy seeing a plan and seeing that Ole has improved the squad and we are building something but if you look on social media some of the comments about the players we have been linked with today are already embarrassing. That was my point where I’m not sure people will be happy with 2-3 years of playing well but winning nothing and Ole would end up leaving before any of the plans come to fruition as fans want success immediately.


7.) 17 May 2019 23:41:41
Gds. That's an interesting one and a topic that can split opinion but there is a grey area.
If there is signs of progress and continual improvement and excitement and entertainment then that will be enough to please a decent annoys of fans. However the caveat i would but on that is that we must be competing to win trophies in year 2 and 3.
If there is entertainment and continual improvement that should mean competing to win trophies.
No matter what happens i will always support the club but i won't be a happy fan unless we are competing to win the best trophies.
I can compare the 70' and 80s against the 90's and 00's.
I didn't love the club any more when we were winning than i did when we were also rans during the 70s and 80s. But i was a happier fan for the next 2 decades that's for sure.
The one thing for sure is that ole knows that and he desperately wants that.
Can he pull it off?
That's the million dollar question. Ole is a long shot. He has a hell of a job in front of him.
Very much like last summer we will know a lot more about what his chances are when the window closes.
Can he move the players on that he wants, and can he keep the ones he wants. Van he get the ones he wants.


8.) 18 May 2019 04:19:29
I wouldn't expect too much next season, I remember when Liverpool went with this strategy it was a disaster.


9.) 18 May 2019 08:07:49
I see someone thinks we are planning now.

Planning would be putting a DOF in place before appointing a manager, not the other way round. Now we have to try to find one who agrees with the manager and his way of doing things. Planning on players, now we have taken a different direction again, back to what SAF did, but OGS doesn’t have the leadership or managerial ability of SAF to make it work. We are trying to make what happened in SAF early years work again in 2019, looking backwards not forwards. That isn’t planning.


10.) 18 May 2019 09:30:33
Red man how do you know OGS has neither leadership or managerial ability, he’s been in the job 5minutes let him get his own players in get rid of some of the deadwood so that he can implement his own style (hopefully a lot better than it’s been) and then judge him.

I don’t mean judge him after he’s done that and only had 5-10 games with new players and system either. It is not going to be a short term process we have to think long term otherwise we will be where we are now also rans.

I’m not saying Solskjaer is the manager we need but I’m willing to give him time to do the things he needs to. I hope he’s ruthless and not a boardroom puppet hopefully he delivers.


11.) 18 May 2019 10:33:35
Nellym

If OGS had leadership he wouldn’t be trying to be a clone of SAF, he would show his own style and path, he would lead from the front. You would also not have players like Rashford allegedly questioning our future path with Ole (something I don’t agree with him doing but it is symptomatic of the issue) . We wouldn’t hear nonsense like not using the managers car park space. After the Cardiff debacle, SAF is said to have said to OGS, what was that, a leader would not accept that in front of others. As a manager I expected him to impose a style, a pattern he hasn’t, does he have one? 20 plus games and we have no idea. If it was all about running he had the option to put younger legs in but didn’t, he made selection errors, substitution errors.

We gave him the job based on 10 games but now can’t judge him on the next 10. I may get it wrong on him but my strong instinct is that this mess is going to get worse by doing the usual sentimental United way and standing by him, not based on his past record but because he is a playing legend. At other big clubs he wouldn’t have been given the job and would have been dismissed for the end of season performances but United cling to sentiment.


12.) 18 May 2019 09:21:27
Are we already making excuses for Ole to fail.


13.) 18 May 2019 10:59:18
Lot of allegedlys and rumours in that post, Red Man, even for you 😁.


14.) 18 May 2019 10:59:41
No Singh, I’m being realistic, I think if who we are linked with is the plan we will be a force to be reckon with again in 2-3 years time, just not sure the majority of fans will allow for that gradual improvement, as your post probably proves to me to be honest.


15.) 18 May 2019 11:17:47
Gds. W if we are competing to win then the majority will be happy.
1 of Liverpool or spurs will win nothing this season. Both sets of fans will look back on what's was a great season and be happy with their lot. Even if its tinged with a little disappointment.
We have to be competing to win trophies by end of 2 seasons. We must be entertaining and we must have a team that plays with Psion desire and structure. We want a team that resinates with the fans and a team that represent the fans.


16.) 18 May 2019 13:53:51
Gds, we need to buy players who want to play for the badge. It's a cliche, but it's a fact. Non of us will be thinking we'll be challenging for the league, but we should be favourites for a top 4 finish, if we invest wisely and had a top manager.
I loved OGS as a player, but in all honesty, I'm not confident that he's got what it takes to put us back where we want to be. The appointment of Mike Phelan is mind boggling in it's stupidity. Mr Phelan has zero tactical nouse, United played the worse style under SAF when Phelan was assistant. He's a dour character, and was dour as a player.

So, i don't think OGS will take one for the team, but the unfortunate fact is that he'll be shown to be out of his depth at handling players and tactical structure against the top teams. The battle for top 4 will be much hotter than this year, but we're United, and we need to be challenging the top 2 and certainly getting into the top 4. Whether OGS/ Phelan are the right pairing to achieve that remains to be seen.


17.) 18 May 2019 15:24:37
Gds,

The problem is we can never predict the future and what if these young players turn like the ones we currently have.

We are talking about the next 3 years or more and what if they fail then we are going to be in another rebuild. This rebuild isn't going to stop unless we change the structure of the club and we get rid of those who have been making the decisions in the last 6 years.

We need a strong manager and i don't think that is Ole. Its a multi billion pound company and the people who are making decisions they are getting paid handsomely and in return we expect the best.

Moyes was a Fergie's and got no backing.

Van Gaal got the backing but again the toxic fans got rid of him.

Mourinho a decision made b3cause of the toxic fans and because City hired Guardiola.

Now onto Ole which again is a decision to keep the fans happy and keep them quite for a bit as Ole used to play for us.

I dony see any other club of our size across the world make decisions like this.

The other day i heard that United want to hire people and run the club like a family but i am sorry if you want to run a club like a family then you need everyone on the same page but they are clearly not based on our previous 6 years.

I hope Ole succeeds as i don't have nothing against him but i just don't think it will happen if he is taking advice from others and that means to be Ole isn't in charge they are people above him.

I think it was Bobby Charlton who was against Mourinho which is ridiculous how is he even having an input of how the club is running.

This isn't a question of showing r3spect to legends or past managers as respect is a different and running a club to be successful is different.

This isn't a corner shop that we hire people just because they are our uncle's son or daughter this is a Club that i pay to watch the game thay i pay for my Bt channel/ Sky channel/ NBC and this is a club that i have visited a few times at Old Trafford to watch the game.

In return we expect a clear plan and we clearly don't have the balls to follow any plans becuase as soon ad the club perform badly then we just change managers and start again.

You are telling me that i am. against Ole but its not being against Ole its more to do witht the person who decided to appoint Ole when he clewrly said we will make a decision at the. end of the year so again that was a plan which he didn't follow and went back on his words and hired him because of the fans so he save his job.

We have no plan and i agree with RedMan who has been telling us for the last 5 years that the club has no plan and with no plan or. idea the club is going to continue to fail.

I just hope. this time we give ole the chance and let him buy the players the club needs and then hire the next manager which will suit the players he has bought but based on past experience i don't think that will happen.

We are going to end up getting rid of Ole and then the next manager will be hired wanting to play a different style and then he isn't going to like the players we have and he will want to buy his own players and then we will again be talking about the same thing which we are curently doing today.

It is a never ending cycle unless we hire the right people who are going to choose a style of football nd hire a manager based on the style and then we might get somewhere.

One question do you really think the football will change enxt year after apointing Phelan has a similar style of play to Mourimho which is based on defensive style of football.

If we were really going to play the type of football we have for last 3 months then why did we sack Mourinho was that because he was challenging the hierarchy of the club and the ambition.

I don't see much difference in what mourinho was doing and how Ole has been playing so why did we sack Mourinho was it just to please a few fans because he was challend Utds ambition.

The truth hurts and whe need to swallow our pride and start again and not make decisions on short term but think long term.


 

 

20 Dec 2018 12:54:43
I am already seeing people moaning about the management decision before he has even taken a training session which worries me, this league season is pretty much a write off I think we all agree on that so let's try a few things and see what happens, get behind the club legends that are in charge of the club and hope they get the players playing how we want them to.

If not then we rebuild with a whole new fresh start in the summer. I tell you one thing, I am looking forward to Saturday and Boxing Day much more than I was 3 days ago, and that's not just because I found out my Aunt isn't coming for Christmas dinner this year!

GDS2

1.) 20 Dec 2018 13:46:51
Agreed GDS2, there is a little feel good factor from appointing a club favourite, and generally lifting the cloud. I don't think everything was Jose;s fault and fans need to understand we are a long way from where we want to be, but a lift in mood might be the first step. I hope everyone gets behind Ole and the players now and has some patience and acceptance that we won't be suddenly a great team.
And finally a big thanks to the Ed's especially Ed002 who give us the best information you can find anywhere, and put up with all the nonsense, in mostly good humour.


2.) 20 Dec 2018 15:03:06
It's just baffling GDS, nothing more I'd love than to see OGS smash it because as a fan nothing would please me more.

But I just see it as another time where ed woodward has tricked fans. There are a lot of issues that we are messing up pn, so let's throw a club legend at the job and the fans will love it.

Nothing against OGS, just the disappointment of seeing yet another ridiculous play by the men in charge.


3.) 20 Dec 2018 15:47:49
You must admit gds it does seem a peculiar appointment, I will obviously get behind him and the team it seemed a bit crazy to me .

I saw a post somewhere yesterday that said we would all be pissing ourselves laughing if city sacked pep and bought kinkladze in and I suppose it's not that far from the truth.


4.) 20 Dec 2018 15:57:16
kinkladze? What a awful comparison, i'm not fussed about ole taking over but kinkladze is that the best you could do.


5.) 20 Dec 2018 16:12:48
If Pep was in 6th place, had been an absolute nightmare, sucked all the fun out of the game and the club needed a complete overhaul with new technical director and manager in the summer and a bit of time to sort it out and they decided to spend that time with a club legend in charge I would probably understand it just like I understand this. Kinkladze has no management experience so not exactly like for like.

Wasn't Guardiola a Barcelona legend who managed the reserve team before getting the main job? OGS has more similarities to him than Kinkladze I would say.

He wouldn't have been my choice, but Jose was my choice so what do I know? I would have loved to see Kieran McKenna have a go and I am glad he is sticking around, I would love to know what frustrations he had with Jose and whether anything him and Carrick did was listened to. The McKenna under 18 team was great to watch, exciting and fun, the complete opposite of this season. I actually look at OGS with the 3 behind him and think we could be in for a fun 6 months. If not then nothing ventured and the club will have had time to get the right setup in the summer.


6.) 20 Dec 2018 16:23:17
The point of the interim manager is to give the club time to get things right for the long term. Not just go for a quick fix. I think there will be a good response to Ole. He is a club legend, and he will be positive in his demeanor and his tactics. Looking forward to Saturday.


7.) 20 Dec 2018 16:51:04
Spot on GDS. I think we just need to get over the ole signing and just try and enjoy our football again. People need to stop reading into it so much. It seems we will go all out for Poch in the summer so this is a great opportunity for ole to unite, harmonise and lift the dressing room. It is also an opportunity for the players to express themselves a bit more and go out and enjoy their football and entertain the fans. With Phelan there to provide some much needed nous and experience, I believe we are in safe hands. Add McKenna and Carrick and we have a lovely blend of youthfulness and experience. Add to that ole who bleeds united, we now finally have someone who is ‘one of our own’ that many fans have been craving.

Instead of moaning I think we should be relieved Jose is gone. Most fans wanted it and they have their wish. We haven’t rushed into signing someone just because they are available. It seems we might just have a plan for once. Can’t we just get behind ole and see what happens? You never know he might just surprise a few. Even if he does great he is only staying for a while and that’s fine. I don’t see any issues with that. And with a much happier and confident squad, fingers crossed we have Poch walking through the door in the summer raring to go. Personally I’m very excited and just cannot see what the fuss is about tbh.


8.) 20 Dec 2018 16:51:12
Too many people missing the point that OGS is temorary because carrick has no licene to coach for more than a 12 week period. We are aslo looking at a DOF to come in. How could Blanc or ZZ come in at such short notice and how would that be good?

The names been thrown about. ZZ, Blanc, Poch are bound to be approached or interviewed (where applicable) in the coming weeks and months in a measured and professional manner we would hope .

Also I read yesterday another journo saying input from Carrick and McKenna has been generally ignored by JM (who knows if that's true) so let's see if Ogs/ Phelan/ Carrick/ mckenna and Butt to an extent can get us on an even keel again. Playing football.


9.) 20 Dec 2018 16:59:03
Sorry fzz maybe I should have used shaun goater.

I am not professing to know anything either gds, I don't and I also thought jose would win the lot with us .

Maybe all the optimism and joy have been knocked out of me the last couple of months I'm just not looking forward to seeing a guy I've always admired get absolute pelters from the fans or the press if things go awry.


10.) 20 Dec 2018 17:27:54
It’s always the case GDS. you just have to go on Twitter and see people writing of ole before we have even kicked a ball. We could appoint pep and people would still complain. I guess that’s the modern fan. You see these fan channels who would much rather stir up controversy and split a fanbase for likes and retweets by taking advantage of our current plight.

I must admit I wasn’t sure about ole as manager. But the more I think of it the more I believe it may turn out to be shrewd move. Bringing in Phelan is so integral as ole has someone with a vast amount of experience and nous. Moreover, it’s an opportunity to unite and harmonise the dressing room whilst getting the players confidence up and enjoying their football again. It also gives us time to restructure the club and really conduct our due diligence in our search for our next manager. It seems Poch is the target which I am buzzing about tbh. He clearly is not attainable so appointing ole as a stop gap is fine for me.

I am buzzing for Saturday’s game, which I have not been for so long. Let’s all pull together and get behind the team because I do feel we will start to see some more exciting football which is in keeping with the United way.


11.) 20 Dec 2018 17:28:10
Don't see the sense in the OGS appointment at all. The wrong guy has gone. Pogba AND Woodward should both have gone before Jose.

If these players wouldn't perform before why suddenly do we think they will now? There is no logic to that.

Pogba is all wrong for United and needs to be gone.

OGS is simply a popular ex-player, a fan favourite, a nice guy. what has he done as a manager at this level. for a club that prides itself on being one of the top 1-2 clubs in the world how can this appointment make sense? In no other line of work would this ever happen, NOWHERE!

All this does is give the club an excuse not to spend in January on what we need. because we don't have the right guy in place for the long term. terrible forward planning yet again, as we stumble from one poor decision to the next.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. same leadership presided over Moyes, LVG, Jose, OGS and now they will suddenly right the ship long term?

I truly hope they make the right appointments for next season. but that's my heart talking because I love watching Manchester United. but my head says this could be a long painful road.

Flying into Manchester from Boston tonight to be home with family in York and Glasgow. not been back in Glasgow for 15 years!

Best for the holidays to all.


12.) 20 Dec 2018 17:29:12
GDS,
I am reasonably happy with OGS and happy to wait and see.
The potential dilemma as I see it is if we see an immediate dramatic improvement do we hail OGS as the conquering hero or do we finally come to terms with having spoiled brats who misuse player power. It will not a black and white situation (never is) but if we believe that it is predominantly the second, how do we feel about keeping them? Who would trade points on the board against the risks of the current nightmare recurring.


13.) 20 Dec 2018 18:50:05
OGS is in management what's wrong with you? its not even close. Give me Stuart Pearce nock nock and you have a deal.


14.) 20 Dec 2018 19:25:47
Nothing wrong with me mate and do you mean knock, knock?


15.) 20 Dec 2018 20:14:47
In other words Stuart Pearce is a ex City player that has managed (see the link) .


16.) 20 Dec 2018 21:20:14
OGS was brought in as interim manager till the end of the season. I don't see the issue with the appointment, can it really get any worse from where we are at this point in time, allardyce and pardew are still available so I think it can. This gives the club 6 months to find and appoint a new manager, at least they are not rushing it and just appointing someone cause they are available. Hopefully by the end of the season we will have a director of football in place and a clear choice who we can the pursue as manager. People wanted change, they have got it and still aren't happy.


 

 

12 Nov 2018 23:56:35
Everyone should check out Mason Greenwood's goals at the weekend. He is scoring every week and despite being slightly too young at the moment if he continues to improve the way he has in the last 18 months he will be some player by the age of 20.

Obviously got the people calling for him to be in the team now because he can score past some 15 year olds, but I am happy seeing him grow at the right level, it does seem unfair on them young lads he's playing against though as he is a few levels above, good to see the future is bright in that department, hopefully he stays fit.

GDS2

1.) 13 Nov 2018 08:16:57
Yes, let him play in the reserves now, loan him to lower leagues after may be after 2 years.
Do not rush him into First team.


2.) 13 Nov 2018 19:24:27
Had my eye on Greenwood for some time and wrote on here about him when i learnt he could take free kicks even penalties with either foot. He is close to the age when he either kicks on or stalls, perhaps like what we see from Rashford. It’s that point in a career where the best go forward, like Rooney and Ronaldo and will be too good not to play in the first team. Rashford could still get back on track but Greenwood has potential to be better

Keep your eye on James Garner as well, and look up an interesting article on him in one of the national newspapers last week.


 

 

03 Oct 2018 09:29:00
Just in answer to a few posts and Ken below, I don't think a new manager would come in and get us challenging for the title this season but they might allow us to challenge in games against lower teams and not be lucky to be in the top half of the table. The players we have might not be good enough to finish above City and Liverpool but they are good enough to be comfortably top 4 and any excuses to the contrary are nonsense IMO.

Jose came out last night and said 'we don't have many players with intensity', 'we don't have technical quality to build from the back', 'we knew we wouldn't create 20 chances' and best of all 'we thought with 3 or 4 chances we would score and win the game'. What the actual hell is he talking about? How can professional footballers who have all played in teams before that created plenty of chances suddenly not create any chances against an average Spanish team.

He also had 2 players last night who have played for Valencia in Pereira and Mata, both who would have loved to get a game and would have given us 110% against them, Andreas doesn't make the squad and Mata spends 90 minutes warming up hoping to get on and we only make 1 sub despite the fact we are clearly struggling I imagine leaving him gutted.

He just doesn't get it and what he is doing makes zero sense. We saw this same thing happen at Chelsea and unfortunately it is probably going to get worse before it gets better, another season without CL next season for us I think, not that it makes much difference if we play as dreadfully as we did last night, what's the point in being in the competition?

I am known as too positive on here generally and I haven't posted for a bit as I don't like to overreact but I don't think this is an overreaction, the players need to take a long look at themselves but without a change in manager I can't see how this gets better. I really hope it does, but look at our fixtures after Saturday, we could be about 13th by mid November, how bad does it need to get before he goes I wonder?

GDS2

1.) 03 Oct 2018 10:07:47
he has had his time, the dinosaur isn't going to magically change his style.

it is boring and the players look bored playing.

i don't agree with the way the players (some of them) have acted but i was working under a manager like jose the way he is and the way he acts i wouldn't want to play either.

we either stick with him and finish outside of the top4 maybe get a top 6 finish, but the worst is yet to come.

people are banging on about would a new manager make a difference, just look at how hazard is doing under a new manager with confidence and a positive approach.


can anyone really see where we are going to get our next win from.

Newcastle at home Sunday, they haven't won, this will be typical of the way thing are going atm for us and i wouldn't be surprised if we lost the game.


2.) 03 Oct 2018 10:06:39
Good post GDS2.

One hire can change everything, it just depends on who that is and who does the hiring.

We need to shift out a few players though irrespective as there are rotten apples.

I just wish people had listened 3-4 months into he tenure when it was patently obvious (to me) this was where we were heading. The procrastination, defending of the indefensible has also contributed to Jose staying in this job and corrupting matters far longer than he should have been. Such a shame he followed LVG and not SAF as we would have been far more decisive.

I take little satisfaction in the 'I told you so' lines as it has been a truly awful couple of years as a Utd fan and it's easy to be an armchair expert. But we are just as bad now as we were by the Autumn of his first year in charge, we have lost so much ground expecting a leopard to change his spots. We hired the failed Chelsea manager, not the Jose of years gone by - just wish the club would do something about it rather than penny pinching. Can't help but feel that Woody is in a bit of bother as extending Jose's contract in January was criminal considering how we were playing.

We need to do the needful now and salvage this season, bring in some energy and positive forward thinking players, get rid of the hype players and get back to our roots. It would be so good to have a team back that plays the game the appropriate Utd way and look like we can go places. Patience with the right man is vital, but with the wrong man it is dangerous!


3.) 03 Oct 2018 10:40:55
Beast,

Oh yeah you really hate to say I told you so, course you do. If you are negative the whole time you'll be correct eventually. You have to give a manager time and in his first season we won trophies, last season we came 2nd in two competitions and still played some good stuff, especially early on. It has not been a dreadful 2.5 years, it is this season where the major issues have started and he will certainly leave us with a better squad than he started with.


4.) 03 Oct 2018 10:49:20
beast who would you hire if given the choice?

zidane is the fav but is he the answer.

do we go for the younger manager or go for a NAME yet again.


5.) 03 Oct 2018 10:53:46
I wasn't negative the whole time. I changed after I realised the first few wins were flattering the performances. I have remained consistent since then - just as our overall performance levels have remained consistently bad (one or two random good performances admittedly) .

Hard to say somebody was correct when you have argued so vehemently against them. I understand but don't beat yourself up mate. Hopefully the third time I say something you will listen a bit more rather than jumping automatically onto the other side of the fence. You never know the next hire could be a good one.


6.) 03 Oct 2018 10:55:55
Fully agree with both posts GDS2.


7.) 03 Oct 2018 11:18:03
I don't think he'll get sacked until top 4 is mathematically impossible, same as with Moyes. However if results continue to slump as they are and we drop down the table then it could happen sooner rather than later. I have zero confidence in Woodward though to make the right appointment.


8.) 03 Oct 2018 11:20:56
Sorry, you weren't negative the whole time, just after 3 games of his first season, I apologise.

I haven't argued against you, I have just had a different opinion and still agree with my opinion over the past couple of years. I would like to hope that next time we have a new manager you give him more than a few games before coming on here spouting how we should all listen to you as you know best, but I won't hold my breath.


9.) 03 Oct 2018 11:21:55
Also Beast I don't think anyone was expecting him to change his spots. He failed at Chelsea because he lost the dressing room but that same dressing room also did the same thing with Conte and AVB so in fairness events at Chelsea with Jose never looked like an isolated incident. What we did expect with Jose was someone who could motivate this team and compete. For several reasons its not worked. But the solution isn't as easy as changing managers. This squad needs a good clear out. Too many either aren't good enough or are just bad eggs. And Woodward needs removing from decision making on the football side.


10.) 03 Oct 2018 11:31:11
Agreed GDS. Whoever takes over needs patience. Its going to take a lot to turn this around. He'll need to rebuild morale, ship players out, impose his own style and philosophy, bring in and integrate his own players. I think the first few months will be very hard to watch but given time it'll turn around. Problem is that by September a section of fans will have already turned and be complaining nothing has changed.


11.) 03 Oct 2018 12:27:55
So long as we hire a young, intelligent, hungry manager that wants to play the game the Utd way they will have my support. Pick players on form rather than reputation, build an identity, try new things if what they are doing isn't working. Build the team into a team, rather than a glorified International team with other priorities. Somebody that is proud to manage the club and commits 100% rather than half in/ half out or thinking they are above it all. Somebody that can accept they make mistakes and LEARN FROM THEM.

Ultimately it didn't take a rocket scientist to realise by Xmas of his first season that Jose was not the answer, just like LVG wasn't. But out fans need to start being analytical and realise that the manager isn't the club, bad decisions can be made, people can be bad fits and most importantly loyalty is earned not gifted. If the next guy is all the things above they will have my support so long as we look like we are going in the right direction.

We need to bring enjoyment back to the club, it's not fun being a Utd fan at the minute, it can't be fun for the players or the manager. They are compensated heavily to deliver and it isn't working - make the change now, we can still get top 4 and have a good run in the CL. If we dither then the job gets harder and harder for the next guy.

Without interviewing the person I wouldn't like to put a man forward, but I do like Jardim (he is doing badly this season but his squad has been decimated), I like how Lyon play, I like how Sassuolo play very much their manager is Roberto De Zerbi, he sets his team out the right way for me and would be an outside punt, unknown quantity really but we need fresh ideas and they certainly play the game the way Utd should play.


12.) 03 Oct 2018 13:45:35
no one would be calling for jose if the football BRAND he played was positive.

3 years later and we still look like a bunch of guys that have been picked from the park.

forget about transfers its his job as a coach to get the best out of his players and he isn't doing that.


13.) 03 Oct 2018 15:09:26
Agreed bolger and beast. People seem to think we want our managers to fail. The complete opposite is true. I yearn for a young manager to come in and be close to his players and play in a positive and aggressive manner. A young tommy Docherty will be great. In fact I'll take docherty now over Mourinho 😅.
And Woodward, who is being portrayed as a financial genius, extended Mourinho's contract in January for no reason whatsoever. If he was working for me, I'll be questioning his decision making and sacking him as well as Mourinho.


14.) 03 Oct 2018 17:23:33
I yearn for the day woody is sacked.


 

 

09 Aug 2018 09:35:19
'From what I read and hear it is difficult to believe we finished 2nd. You are capable of making people who finished 2nd look like the got relegated and people who finished below us look like serial winners'

Hear hear Jose.

GDS2

1.) 09 Aug 2018 09:42:14
I agree it is difficult to believe but it's mourinho's negativity in public that causes that. He never focuses on anything positive and always has something negative to say so Jose as your say we finished 2nd last year cheer up!


2.) 09 Aug 2018 10:03:57
not entertaining though. i watch football to be entertained.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 10:06:56
New signing - my info is no says Jose.


4.) 09 Aug 2018 10:13:22
His press conference today was pretty positive so you probably won’t see much about it.


5.) 09 Aug 2018 10:29:00
If you want entertainment youshould watch com3dy shows. Football is more of a business then entertainment now a days.

Do you think Real Madrid played entertaining football under Zidane, they just cared about winning and didn't really bother about how entertaining they are.


6.) 09 Aug 2018 10:48:32
sorry singh but i don't agree! i don't pay to go watch business! fans want entertainment, i struggle to watch a full match these days as it's boring simple as that. does it make me less of a fan, i don't think so. i 've never been a fan who needs a shiny new player every ten minutes so i don't really care about signings in all honesty, but i do care what i see on the pitch and it's crap.


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2019 01:34:18
The OP is nothing to do with Ole but you once again chose to slag him off, hence why I called it trolling. We know that you dislike Ole, what are you adding by continuously saying it over and over?

I think the thumbs up and down can give you an idea and a gauge as to which of us people think is the troll here.

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13 Jun 2019 13:28:54
If its 'no matter what anyone says' then you are in the wrong place as this is a forum for discussion and listening to other people's informed opinions.

My reply did add something but the Ed's decided only to include the end of it which is fair enough, when you post the same thing on different posts it is called trolling, there really isn't a place for that here, go on twitter or something.

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13 Jun 2019 00:29:03
UA,

saying same thing again and again adding nothing.

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11 Jun 2019 21:16:50
Schneider 😂😂.

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11 Jun 2019 13:28:07
What does the OP have to do with midfielders? We also need a right back, I think people have football Tourette’s or something. Looks more and more likely that we will sign AWB, brilliant signing if true, amazing how a good defensive right back can make the centre halves look better, fingers crossed we get this one sewn up quickly.

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17 Jun 2019 01:29:44
I’ve been wearing my fleet when I’ve been going out as it’s been a little cold.

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{Ed033's Note - you have a fleet of fleeces do you?


 

 

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13 Jun 2019 13:23:02
Settled team like Chelsea? Are you serious?

You're aware they might not even have the same manager as now on the first day of the season and have lost their best player?

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11 Jun 2019 21:18:25
Danny 😂😂 nice.

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11 Jun 2019 00:43:48
Howzat for a kick in the bails?

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10 Jun 2019 08:20:06
This was a quote I saw from one person on Twitter and I believe it was made up. AAA you are also better than that in believing Twitter rumours, Woodward is there to get us the best deal not just throw the asking price at teams and overspend, that’s not really how negotiation works.

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