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26 Apr 2024 19:10:21
Ed002 - If you've got time please, even if Utd wanted to sell Rashford or he wanted to leave is there any genuine interest in taking him? Given his current form and massive wages I wouldn't suspect there is a big queue? Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - I am getting sick of answering the same quesions over and over. It is a complete waste of my time.
Marcus Rashford (LW/F) Much will depend on what happens in the summer regarding a new coach, but I am sure Manchester United will be regretting the new long-term contract. A third-party has spoken to clubs, including Juventus and Arsenal about him on behalf of Manchester United, but I am not aware of any serious interest. Suggestion that he could be a Mbappe replacement at PSG seem far-fetched given they have other clear targets in mind.}
1.) 26 Apr 2024 20:38:07
My apologies thanks for your reply.
2.) 26 Apr 2024 21:05:11
More or less our biggest star/ face off our marketing. Can't see us letting him go for a fee that would be anywhere near realistic. Think he will stay and stink up the place ala Martial for the foreseeable.
3.) 27 Apr 2024 08:16:28
His wages too high to be sold.
Maybe short term loan to help him get form back away from spotlight.
4.) 27 Apr 2024 13:17:13
Quite a few contracts on reduced terms have been signed at the likes of Barcelona recently. Maybe de Jong this summer. Most have done so. True measure of love for a club.
5.) 27 Apr 2024 13:18:23
There were rumours he didn’t get on with Greenwood at all and cannot work with him.
Now that’s a tough choice. A lazy and out of form Rashford or Greenwood back?!
6.) 27 Apr 2024 22:07:56
That's not a choice Eric.
7.) 28 Apr 2024 00:20:58
Why not choose between Messi in his prime or Rashford? ?.
8.) 28 Apr 2024 11:08:36
Generally I tend to find it hard to judge players on things beyond their performance on the pitch. Frankly I just don't know enough about them personally or what is going on in their lives to feel like I know enough to draw a sensible conclusion.
With Rashford he seems like he has a decent moral core based on his efforts to make sure kids didn't go hungry. He used his position of fame to help others and that should be commended, on the most part that has been.
On the pitch he has at times carried us, and has shown genuine world class form at times. Consistency has been a problem, but a fully fit and on form Rashford starts for pretty much every side in the league.
The question is why is he so inconsistent. In the past the excuses of youth and being moved around position have been valid potential reasons.
While he has carried the goalscoring burden for us in the past he isn't the kind of player who can drag his teammates performance up. To be fair very few forwards tend to have that quality. They are goal scorers and by nature that tends to make players selfish and more focused on themselves in their efforts to score. Midfielders and defenders tend to be more team focused and as such there are far more examples of players from those positions who can elevate the performance of those around them.
As such for a player like Rashford his form will be more dependent on that of the team, he needs his teammates to provide him with good quality chances for him to be able to play at his best. So maybe his form and inconsistency can be partially explained by the team's own inconsistent performances.
There have also been rumours and suggestions that his form might be connected to his private life. Again something that shouldn't be too surprising. Most of us will see a downturn in our performance at work when we are dealing with turmoil or difficulties in our private lives. Very few people can block out those troubles while at work, and I think the ones that can tend to be able to do so because their work is an escape. I wonder how that might change if you're work is examined under the microscope of the print and online media. Can work be an escape when you are put under that much pressure.
This brings me to the crux of this whole situation for me. What support should the club offer a player like Rashford and are they giving him that support.
If a player, particularly a current or former academy player has issues in their private life to what extent do the club have a responsibility to support them with that?
We as a club take kids who are not emotionally or mentally mature and start training them to become top players. Part of that process puts them in situations that most teenagers never experience. They are exposed to pressures that many fully mature adults would struggle with, and they are expected to make good decisions and are disproportionately judged when they make mistakes common for most teenagers.
Most of them don't come from homes or backgrounds that have experience or the knowledge of how to support and advise them. They are picked out by agents and hanger-on's looking to make money on the back of these young players talent. People who will use manipulation on these kids to further their own ends.
The club looks to benefit from producing these young players, either making money on the back of selling them on, or by producing a top level player for a fraction of what it would cost to buy a similar player. Academy players on the whole tend to earn less at their clubs than players signed by the club. Their attachment to the club being taken advantage of by the club to have higher quality players on lower wages than they would potentially earn elsewhere.
Which for me personally means that the club does have more responsibility to support it's players, particularly it's academy and former academy players, far more than that of a traditional employer.
The club, while providing these young players with a fantastic opportunity, have exposed these young people to experiences and challenges they are not for the most part equipped to deal with.
Rather than throw a player like Rashford to the dogs, the club should be doing everything they can to support him and help him deal with whatever issues he has and work with him to get him back to his best form.
Maybe they are, I hope they are. Maybe playing most games is part of that support, maybe he needs the distraction of playing to give him a rest bite from whatever is happening off the pitch. Maybe the club is offering the support and the player isn't accepting it. Or maybe they aren't offering any support at all.
The point for me is that I don't know which of the above is happening. Which makes it very hard for me to judge Rashford currently beyond that his form (for whatever reason) isn't good enough and that needs to be addressed. His on pitch body language and his perceived effort is difficult to judge as I don't know why it's changed. As previously he has always been a hard working and committed player.
His body language, the rumours, the speculation, his tweets or response to questions in the press, and everything else is something I find it difficult to judge him on as I'm only seeing less than 10% of what is happening.
Is Rashford's form a problem? Absolutely. How best to fix that? Well without seeing the whole picture it's impossible to say.
9.) 28 Apr 2024 11:08:59
Why not ship out both and completely remove Ole's first choice attacking line from the club in one fell swoop. None of them have lived up to what we had hoped they would be for different reasons.
10.) 28 Apr 2024 22:23:47
Why not bring back Greenwood, since the charges were dropped, he has a child with that girl and also married her?
11.) 29 Apr 2024 04:27:22
Quite simple Trololo. The club doesn't need the circus that will come from bringing him back. They are trying to turn the page and move forwards with positivity, and bringing Greenwood back would not help to deliver that.
12.) 29 Apr 2024 06:25:29
Sell Greenwood to whichever Spanish side want him and use the money to fund a bid for Olise, then move Garnacho back to is favoured position on the left, move Mount up to attacking midfield, Bruno as the box2box midfielder and let Mainoo keep learning the DM role.
With Licha back next season with Shaw we only need a new CB, maybe Braithwaite or the kid from Nice and we are good to go.
Easy being a manger isn't it.
13.) 29 Apr 2024 12:59:13
I understand that Dodgy, the problem is with the fans, who are, imo, hilarious, that is why I posted that.
14.) 29 Apr 2024 13:23:55
She is so lucky eh Trololo?
15.) 29 Apr 2024 14:00:56
Taking Greenwood back is not an option. Rushford is in poor form and clearly struggling with his mentality. Greenwood is a scumbag who doesn't deserve the talent, platform or career ahead of him.
16.) 29 Apr 2024 16:33:14
What is your point patrick?
James, that is only your opinion. If he is or isn't a scumbag should be irrelevant. He wasn't convicted and that should be enough.
17.) 29 Apr 2024 19:23:58
Are you really asking Trololo?
18.) 30 Apr 2024 16:02:20
For some reason, my comment didn't go through.
Anyway, yes, I am really asking.
19.) 30 Apr 2024 17:45:58
Trololo, Domestic violence. Not a good image for the club to be associated with. Most victims stay / withdraw from cases. Does that make him innocent? What about women, both players and fans of Man Utd? Move on from Greenwood.
20.) 04 May 2024 14:22:36
I think there is another angle that is worth looking at.
First of all, if he realLy is innocent as Richard Arnold’s taskforce seems to believe, he should be reinstated.
If not, then him playing for Manchester United is in the best interest of the victim. She would be isolated anywhere else in the world, in Manchester she would have her family around for those tough moments that will surely be coming again sometime in the future.
Just food for thought.
23 Jun 2023 17:49:20
I find it disingenuous to those that suggest the sale of the Club will have no bearing on this summers transfer window.
Had the takeover of the Club been completed in April or May as many commentators had predicated I don't think there is any doubt that this summers transfer window would have looked remarkably different. New owners would be keen to show intent and make an immediate impression.
Whilst it may be true to suggest that the sale of the Club won't necessarily divert from a usual Glazer summer of indecision, delay and protracted negotiations had new owners been in place maybe we could have been spared such frustration and drama.
In relation to this summers transfer window a lack of leadership and indecision reigns again.
Mount may arrive if a fee can be agreed with Chelsea and Rabiot seems a cheaper alternative to the likes of Rice and Caicedo however his wages could still present a problem.
The GK situation is bizarre. Surely if there was uncertainty surrounding De Gea this should have been treated as a priority with many supporters labelling a new keeper as essential summer business. If De Gea leaves then obviously a new GK will arrive, however as it stands the situation remains unclear. Will the club move for a cheaper GK to provide competition for De Gea or someone more established and replace him as No1?! The fact this decision has not yet been made is scary.
A new CB is probably dependant on selling Maguire so I don't expect that to be resolved anytime soon.
With Kane and Osimhen seemingly both unavailable the CF situation is complex. I get the impression the Club are reluctant to splash the cash on a younger, inexperienced prospect just yet. I have a suspicion that some at the Club still believe that Harry Kane may become available later in the window especially if he agitates for a move therefore in my opinion I don't think the CF position will be resolved until the end of the window.
I get the impression there is a lot of indecision within the Club not fully decided if they want to invest heavily in new GK or the what kind of CF they want to move for. Considering many supporters believed both positions were key summer priority's it's alarming that the Club doesn't seem to have a clear and coherent plan.
We could fall lucky like we did last year but if that happens I expect more panic, drama and no doubt a big overspend on someone because they've left it late.
1.) 23 Jun 2023 18:04:18
Clear and coherent plan and Manchester United don’t go together and hasn’t for years. We can only hope that new ownership and a new structure can change that…. if we get new owners that is.
2.) 23 Jun 2023 18:11:51
Good post DLIB. 10Hag must be incredibly frustrated.
3.) 23 Jun 2023 18:55:07
I don't think even this leadership will fail to get an acceptable striker, but we do really need a backup too, unless Rashford is being moved up front full time (which I don't think he should be, at least not now, maybe in the future) .
Well, worst case we can use McT as backup striker, he offers everything Weghorst did, but with more goal threat! (Sadly I'm only half joking here)
4.) 23 Jun 2023 18:56:25
Maybe if the club had been sold by April/ May then things might have been different.
Yet I think its disingenuous to place all blame at the Glazers door for that.
The saying goes it takes two to tango. The fact that we ended up with three rounds of bidding and that the rumoured fee being paid is north of 6bn, up over 3.2bn on anything offered in the first round of bids just shows that this is a process.
Being angry at people for refusing a lower deal when they have gone on to secure a much better one seems daft and pointless.
I think a lot of of fans got a little carried away when the first rumours of the club being potentially up for sale. They let their imagination run away with itself. We'd get a new owner, someone who understands the club, who is a fan, who has a clear plan and will invest. Clear the debt, build a new stadium, build a new training ground, and of course bankroll a luxury summer of expensive signings.
It's best not to look at things in the short term view. We will have new owners and it's probably better for them to really get their feet under the table over the summer and over the course of next season.
The last thing the club needs is kneejerk reactions. Sack this person and that person and try and hire someone to come in and implement a plan that they have literally had to pull out of their derrière with absolutely no understanding of the club. Owners more concerned with making a fancy entrance than making sensible well thought-out moves. Buying big name, fancy players to try and woo the fans.
The signings the club have wanted to make after scouting throughout the season, players who suit the managers profile and fit into his plans.
Having new owners who can have a chance to see what is working and what isn't, while also having the common sense to plan out how and when to make those changes. Is vital.
5.) 23 Jun 2023 20:01:38
Dlib, we have ffp to deal with. Owners can't just come in and spend what they want. Unless we sell some the kitty is looking low.
6.) 23 Jun 2023 22:00:34
FFP is definitely a factor for us, we have to face facts that for now we can’t compete on the mega deal front in respect of transfer fees.
7.) 23 Jun 2023 22:28:09
FiremanC - Not without sales. The issue is we must raise £100m sales to be able to spend say £400m. But we cannot spend £400m without knowing for sure we can raise £100m. And you cannot guarantee you will raise £100m. We don't have a crystal ball. That's why we cannot rush into buying everyone. It was always going to be about outgoings, I'm not convinced we will do anything different than other seasons, therefore it'll be tough this summer. We have already priced Fred out of a Fulham move. He's 30. We need to be more flexible with sales and not penny pinch so much. We will miss out on EtH's targets. That's why for me it was super important that we were taken over by the Qataris asap, as they would allow for small loses on outgoing players to allow them to move on. IE freeing up money for the benefit of FFP. I have no faith in the current team to get players out the door.
8.) 23 Jun 2023 23:20:52
According to the Athletic we do not have particularly pressing FFP concerns. I think the existing combined debt of £1.1bn is more problematic. We don't have the cash on hand to make any big up front cash purchases.
21 Jul 2020 08:15:50
There has been some fierce debate since the Chelsea defeat but maybe some perspective is needed.
Only a couple of weeks ago Chelsea lost to West Ham and Sheffield Utd and looked anything like convincing in a narrow victory over Crystal Palace. They have their own problems in defence and with another Spanish goalkeeper coincidentally so they have not suddenly become world beaters again overnight.
Utd now need to show some resilience and mental strength. We look a team showing signs of fatigue and some parallels can be drawn to last season when Ole went on a magnificent run only for it to fall apart once we'd dragged ourselves back into contention. The same excuses were rolled out then. Injury and fatigue bore the blame but this time history cannot repeat itself.
We need to exhibit a steely reserve, to win our next two fixtures and complete a remarkable turn around. There will be no trophy or even celebration for finishing 4th. It will still represent a poor season where we have finished over 30 points behind the leaders but maybe the seeds of recovery have been sown over the last few weeks. A return to Europe's elite competition will see us welcome Europe's best back to Old Trafford and hopefully the extra revenue generated will be reinvested back into the playing squad.
As for next season expectations should be tempered. Any talk of a title challenge is dangerously premature and once again we'll be in a fight for a top 4 finish with the likes of Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, Leicester, Wolves etc
Progress has been made, the team is now capable of scoring more goals, is becoming more consistent, whilst the style and brand of football is slowly evolving. I think we've been treated to some fantastic, attacking football since the re start, scoring some memorable goals and perhaps we have seen the birth of our next academy superstar.
We've seen ourselves the difference that just one player can make to a team so with the right recruitment we do have cause for optimism. The prospect of seeing Rashford, Martial, Fernandes and Sancho not matter how unlikely is exciting and with Greenwood continuing to develop we have a core of good players capable of competing with the best.
We must now finish the job and look forwards not back. The Chelsea defeat is consigned to history and in some ways we have bigger business to take care of. It's a big week ahead for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and the direction of his Man Utd team.
1.) 21 Jul 2020 10:27:48
Dlib
Nice to see there are still some people on the site with a modicum of common sense and knowledge. ðŸ‘ðŸ‘.
2.) 21 Jul 2020 10:28:57
Sensible post. I think the issue is most of us have become entrenched in our views either pro or against the manager. Them the most recent results become the basis of either proving your opinion right or wrong.
The reality is the unless Ole massively improves them he isn't the right long term manager for us. Yet in the short term he has shipped out the right players, brought in players with the right mentality, he has given youth a chance, improved most players in the squad and given the club back some of its identity. As a result whoever takes over will take over a club and a side in much better shape than it was when Ole took over.
Whether this summer, next summer or beyond is the right time to replace Ole remains to be seen and until he is will remain a hypothetical opinion only.
My view is we have a young side that is benefitting from having a manger who trusts them, regardless of who we sign we are too far off of Liverpool and City who have sides at their peak currently to realistically catch them next season.
They say a squad peaks with an average age between 26-29. That is where Liverpool and City are now. Our average age is 23/ 24 so we need more experience before we hit our peak.
For me next season would be a success if we are comfortably 3rd with a much smaller gap between us and 1st, anything below a 10 point gap would be a great improvement. I think we need to win a cup either the Europa League this season or a cup next season. Winning breeds a winning mentality and with so many young players in the squad winning a cup would be a huge growth experience for them.
Onwards and upwards. We need to refocus on the next game, forget Leicester. Win at West Ham, and try and win by a good margin. That would show a good bounce back mentality and would go some way to maintaining confidence levels. While also putting us in the best possible place ahead of the final day showdown.
3.) 21 Jul 2020 10:58:29
Agreed. If Ole can get us back into the top 4, playing some good football, maybe Europa League as a bonus, you have to after he’s done a sterling job and deserves another transfer window to continue his project. The atmosphere around our club is chalk and cheese to Jose’s reign. I for one am not complaining - yes he makes a few mistakes, but he’s learning all the time.
4.) 21 Jul 2020 11:20:01
Top post DLIB.
5.) 21 Jul 2020 12:07:37
Top post and well said DLIB.
6.) 21 Jul 2020 12:52:37
Good post dlib. City have lost a host of league games this year and are 20 points worse off than last year and have just been outplayed by arsenal. Do we see mass hysteria? Sack pep? players not good enough? No we don't. If I had said after the Burnley defeat that with 2 league games to go CL qualification would be in our hands I would have been laughed off this site. We are looking a little fatigued which is why the team and the manager need all our support not relentless criticism for losing a game which wasn't in the grand scheme of things particularly important.
7.) 21 Jul 2020 13:31:30
our inability to finish teams off is one of the issues we had early in the season which has cost us points.
we have drew 11 games.
lost the 2nd least amount of games and have conceded the joint second least.
i think with a few more players, especially a right winger, and another central midfielder regardless if pogba stays or not you will see a difference.
8.) 21 Jul 2020 14:02:34
Good post DLIB.
But I remain unconvinced that Ole has what it takes to take us forward next season and beyond. Still too many question marks hang over him and what he has achieved so far. I do hope I am wrong.
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15 Sep 2025 14:49:34
I think it's time we stopped over reacting to each defeat and understand we are in the midst of a significant re build.
There is absolutely no point in comparing us to the likes of City, Liverpool or Arsenal.
The fixture list always presented an early examination and even the most optimistic of Utd fans surely couldn't have expected much against Arsenal or City. Let's be honest we've seen mistakes from Maguire and Shaw on countless occasions in the past, we've seen Bruno fail to track runners and the GK make mistakes. These are not new problems and have existed under several different managers and systems.
Did any reasonable Utd fan predict a title challenge this season? Did anyone even predict a top 4 finish? Surely not many, then why do we seemingly always over react to every single defeat, when most have us have already predicted the team is not good enough?
I've taken a more pragmatic approach, I'll keep my eye on 5-7th which will give us European football and try not to overanalyse every performance.
Any improvement this season will sadly not be measured against Arsenal, City or Liverpool but by beating the sides in mid/ bottom of the table and significantly improving our home form. Can we beat Chelsea, who will play champions league football in midfield? We have home advantage and extra time to prepare, we are right to expect a better performance. Then comes Brentford, we have taken their best player and they have lost their manager and then comes Sunderland, a newly promoted team at Old Trafford before the international break. It's these games where the scrutiny must fall. Of course Chelsea is a difficult game but with home advantage and a full week to prepare we should expect a reaction.
In relation to Amorim, I'm not a fan of the 3-4-3 but I accept that's how he plays and my issue lies with those that appointed him. Without European football, all the issues were never likely to be solved in one summer. I don't agree with some of his decisions, I think he can get more out of some of these players but it's hard to change the mentality of the team when you are still using the same players that have failed on countless occasions in the past.
Losing to City is always extremely disappointing but the next three games are much more important in my opinion. Let's see where we are at the next International break.
1.) 15 Sep 2025 15:10:16
I expect better than 31 points from 31 games, which is our league record since Amorim took over.
2.) 15 Sep 2025 15:31:59
Good post DLIB.
3.) 15 Sep 2025 15:48:25
You mean beating teams like Fulham? Which we didn’t.
Barely managed to beat Burnley this season.
And lost to Grimsby with a pretty much full strength team out.
I get your point on games against Arsenal and city. But surely we can all agree that we should be beating Grimsby?
And that’s all before we start looking at last seasons results. RA has managed 31 premier league games and managed just 31 points. He has the team in relegation form. That’s getting close to a full season of league games and he’s still not managed back to back wins. Still not managed to get a positive goal difference. Still not managed to get this system working.
He has managed to put our most threatening attacking threat in Bruno in a position on the pitch where he can’t play and nullified his attacking talent. He’s the most creative number 10 in the league, but RA has decided to play him in centre mid.
When the team is losing and chasing an equaliser (which is in many, many games), the subs made by RA are often to replace defensive players. Make it make sense.
I’d love RA to be a success. But let’s be honest and realistic - he’s not going to be. If after a year of being in charge it’s only got worse, what makes you think it’s suddenly going to get better now?
4.) 15 Sep 2025 15:57:08
Losing to City is one thing, but losing to Grimsby, scraping past Burnley, and struggling to beat Fulham are different things.
The stats speak for themselves, I got a bit repetitive recently and want to avoid that, but his obsession with his formation, and his team selections will be his undoing.
5.) 15 Sep 2025 16:31:57
I think the manager should be given one more transfer window to build his team. I think the three forwards bought are very good buys. The problem for us them is that they are living on scraps.
On the flanks, Dorgu has plenty of energy but poor delivery. Amad I think is more of a number 10. We need a player such as Conor Bradley bombing up the right flank and delivering crosses. Our midfield is powder puff, lacking in energy, assertiveness and creativity. We need a few bully boys in the team, tenacious and tough midfielders.
Man City just brushed us aside. Defensively, we need a hallion of a centre back. Harry Maguire looked ponderous and sluggish, unable to recover. Shaw looked weak and disinterested. De Ligt and Yoro have good qualities and can improve.
6.) 15 Sep 2025 16:55:44
There are very few easy games in the EPL, even for the top teams, which we are not. Liverpool struggled to beat Burnley relying on a last gasp PK. The results thus far have continued in the same pattern as last year. Given the opening schedule it has not been entirely unexpected. The loss against Grimsby was terrible but ultimately came down to Onana's terrible goalkeeping (He'll no doubt be a star in Turkey as no doubt Hojlund in Italy) Nevertheless it's inadequate. Whether it's the system or the players I don't believe the bosses will allow this to go on for much longer.
7.) 15 Sep 2025 17:10:26
Liverpool scraped past Burnley and got a goal last min in all their games to win.
That's what champions do. We did that for years when on top.
Liverpool are a kick away from having 4 draws. Fine margins.
But ra is making decisions that are not coming off for him so he needs to try something different. Slight tweaks could bring different results. So his reluctance to try something different other than sub maguire on grates on me and is a flaw in is leadership imo.
8.) 15 Sep 2025 17:21:18
And you wonder why he didn't want to join until summer. I'm trying to ignore last season when it comes to stats. But this season hasn't started brilliantly.
9.) 15 Sep 2025 17:41:18
I feel sorry for Amorim because the inevitable is coming. He does not know or experienced enough to manage in this league. We have used results, player development, style as benchmarks for every other manager and none have ever had the perfect squad and there is always missing pieces.
The style of football, our results and how so many players look terrible under Amorim is the worst I have witnessed since Fergie. Pease do not tell me we are stylish, we are dog sh. t at both ends of the pitch. Hardly create anyhing and concede like a whore.
If you look at any of the big clubs in europe or pl and make no mistake we are a massive massive club. Even under the guise of a rebuild and squad weaknesses, there is a minimum standard, level of expectation and performance you have to achieve or you get sacked. He is so far below any standard a top club would accept, its a silly to think this is okay and just give it time. At any other top club he would be already sacked imo.
It is inevitable and his own doing but for those of you who think its going to suddenly change, I guess time will tell.
Imo we will keep losing to so many teams with the way he sets us up with a 2 man midfield specially given the type of players we have and he is silly young inexperienced dreamer not to come to terms with that and make adjustments.
10.) 15 Sep 2025 18:04:02
Apart from yesterday we have created plenty Ahmad, but the finishing has been poor.
Bruno doesn’t work in a two man midfield, he needs to play higher up the pitch.
The Mbeumo, Mazraoui partnership looked promising, the Dorgu, Amad didn’t.
The front three should be Mbeumo, Sesko and Bruno for the next game with Cas and Mainoo in midfield.
Would start Lemmens as well, see how he gets on.
11.) 15 Sep 2025 19:29:07
We have had the most shots but how many clear cut chances have we had? How many decent passes or crosses have there been for Sesko. I wanted Hoijlund to stay because I thought he was a better player than he was allowed to show by the rest of this team. Sesko is in danger of being the same.
Midfield needs a drastic transformation.
We all agree that Amorims system does not work. Danny Murphy is very astute and generally fair in his comments. As he said no team apart from Chelsea in one season has won the league with a system of three at the back. He also said that Utd need to put round pegs in round holes. Said Bruno is not up to tracking back. Basically said Shaw and Maguire need to go and get dominant physical defenders in.
These are all comments so many of us have said for so long
If he can see it, we can see it, why can't the manager?
12.) 15 Sep 2025 20:00:46
Scraping past Burnley, the shame! Liverpool needed a last minute penalty against them and they’ve two squads better than ours. We had 9 players from last seasons team which Burnley would have given a run for their money. A large number of fans expect us to be top of the league or as a bare minimum beat last seasons top 6 at a canter anything else is abject failure. Not a great day as the clarets got licked as well and cricket was rained off.
Still the same old players. Didn’t do enough in the summer and we will pay for it all season.
13.) 15 Sep 2025 20:04:56
Grim
The results don't lie bud. We are utter sh. t against a decent side. I have never seen a united fan base with such low expectations and losing is becoming the norm.
We have a decent 20 minute spell in a given match and people start thinking its the start of something new. it all wishful thinking imo and I was in that boat for a long time. Reality is we just lose to pretty much anybody.
How can you do the same thing every week and have the appalling results and run we have had and refuse to change something. There is no glory or pride in that but stupidity.
I just don't believe this guy is capable tactically to beat his counterparts in the pl. No idea who comes in next but he is not going to make it.
14.) 15 Sep 2025 21:09:52
Let's face it. He escaped from Fawlty Towers one night. Send Manuel back and we can appoint a non pathological buffoon.
15.) 15 Sep 2025 22:09:51
Virtually every pundit ex player commentator reporter are all perplexed at this shambles and RA refusing to change, something that only worked for him at one previous club in a low level league… he lost the plot if he even ever had it.
28 Aug 2025 09:48:00
Say what you want about Amorim and the players but the transfer window closes in 3 days and we haven't sold a single player! Just let that sink in!
I know a few of us have long held the opinion that a true re build can only take place once the Club is able to sell players. Anyone with an ounce of common sense understands that when you make a public declaration that you don't want players you have completely lost any power of negotiation. Sometimes you just have to lick your wounds, take the medicine and never make the same mistakes again.
Rashford, Sancho, Antony, Malacia et al, didn't play in the calamity of the Europa League final, in fact they had not been part of Amorim's team since he arrived! Of course they all need to be sold, but they had no influence on last seasons poor performances and none of them played last night!
My point is the team that lost the Europa League Final needed dismantling and re building, that didn't even include the infamous bomb squad and the Club hasn't even sold a single player. Talk of a pre season and more time on the training pitch was fairytale stuff, it was obvious Amorim needed new players and a lot of them!
So as another transfer window draws to a close Utd have yet again ignored the obvious. No new GK, no new CM, swapped a very expensive inexperienced CF for another one and zero players sold.
Welcome to Manchester United!
1.) 28 Aug 2025 10:51:36
I completely agree. The problem is that the previous administration bought these players for such high fees and gave them such huge contracts that is is now difficult to shift them.
Add to that a terrible reputation for selling players and potential buying clubs being aware that we are desperate to sell then the situation becomes almost unworkable.
We have to sell these players, but we can't unless we get a certain fee, if we don't get that fee then it goes as a loss and reduces the already reduced transfer budget. We are stuck between a rock and a hard place and the buying clubs know it.
I expect we will see several deals done last minute on deadline day when someone blinks either us or the buying clubs.
The problem is that doesn't help with our ability to bring players in as it leaves no time to bring them in after deals for outgoing players are done. The only other option is to gamble on them being sold and buy players anyway. But that only weakens our hand when it comes to negotiating the sales as we are then more desperate to get the money in to balance the books. While if the sales don't happen then we will have negatively impacted our accounts and probably made it harder to make signings next year.
Make no mistake the mess that INEOS inherited was catastrophic.
11 Jul 2025 12:36:35
I think it's increasingly obvious we need to sell some players before we can buy.
Is the delay for Mbeumo because we just don't have the cash to complete the deal at their valuation? Reading between the lines, it would seem there was enough money to sign Cunha and Delap, who were apparently the Clubs principal targets, but Delap went to Chelsea and Mbeumo is much more expensive, hence the complicated and protracted negotiations with Brentford.
I think we are all sensible enough to understand the Club are NOT going to sell Rashford, Sancho and Anthony. They will all likely go out on loan again, probably towards the back end of the window. Any interest In Garnacho appears to have dwindled, so it begs the question what are we going to do? We are stuck!
Where I differ from some supporters is I have no sympathy with Ineos. This situation was inevitable as soon as they colluded with the Glazers. This is not the Glazers mess but Ineos as well, they can't be separated, they are partners. The Glazers have took us to the brink, due to neglect and poor management, so Ineos calling for patience, after they decided to work with them, understanding the dire financial position of the Club and the hostility towards the Glazers in the fan base was never likely to be tolerated by large sections of the fan base, who have already been waiting well over a decade.
My cynical opinion is that the Glazer/ Ineos alliance is all about building a new stadium, adding significant value to the Club years down the line. I have seen little evidence that Ineos are determined to return the team to the top and they are certainly not prepared to take any risks or find innovative solutions to pump more money into the Club.
Can we operate as a mid table Club until the new stadium is built? The problem I envisage will we even fill a 100k capacity stadium by that time? In addition we probably won't feel the benefit of any potential increased revenue until the majority of building the new stadium has been paid off in 10-15 years time.
With the eye watering money on offer from the revamped Champions League we are more likely to be cut adrift rather than compete at the top again.
What is the plan? I just can't see one, and if it's austerity, cuts and a sell to buy policy whilst we build a new stadium, surely it's destined to fail.
1.) 11 Jul 2025 15:03:33
Of course Ineos would want United back up the top as would the glazers and any owners come to that!
Of course they will sell Some if not a couple and a couple of loans, there is ages to go yet, being a bit premature with the doom and gloom
I don’t understand why supporters think spending 50 million plus is like walking into a supermarket.
Don’t you think the club along with RA are doing all they can to secure ins and outs.
I never ever see RA say he wanted Gyokeres press just presumed it because previous connection, RA might think he won’t hack it in the epl, we have no idea
RA might not be 100% sold on Mbeumo we have no idea…let’s just wait and see, it’s one thing barracking the players we have, we seen them, but to beat the club about not buying players we don’t even have any idea if they even want is laughable really
We know we need a proper striker, we all know roughly what we need, we’ll I am sure RA and the club do too, let’s wait and see.
2.) 11 Jul 2025 16:07:24
German - You continually ignore the evidence why would the Club make two bids and negotiate for a player for over 6 months that they don’t want. Your logic makes not sense? A lot of us think the Club are incompetent based on a wealth of evidence spanning over a decade.
If you want to be positive that’s your prerogative but we finished 15th last season, 8th the year before and our financial situation is dire despite consistently generating some of the highest revenues in world. These are the facts.
3.) 11 Jul 2025 19:45:28
Dlib, so we listen to the press when it suits us do we… have United confirmed bids? Or are the press confirming
Do you not think if it was straightforward and we really want him we would not pay the extra 2.5m
There is no evidence just hear say…. I work on balance of probability not hear say, so your evidence is a figment of imagination I’m afraid.
4.) 12 Jul 2025 09:43:46
German - Are you a Trump supporter? Fake news come on pal!
Ornstein, Romano, Ben Jacob’s, many other reputable journalists have all confirmed Utd have made two bids for Mbeumo and they want the player. If you want to live in a world of fake news and conspiracies where you can’t believe anything, go ahead, I’ll converse with the sensible posters. Yes, I do think they are arguing about £2m and again you ignore the evidence. Ratcliffe has sacked half the work force, he’s stopped serving food in the canteen, he stopped a £40k per year payment to charity, why would you not believe they would be haggling about a relatively small amount? Again just plainly ignoring the evidence to suit your own warped agenda. This is not my imagination, you choose what you want to believe but to me you’re just an ostrich with your head buried in the sand not applying any kind of logic, knowledge or common sense to most of your posts. I’ve tried but I can’t engage in any sensible debate or conversation with you, we move on.
5.) 12 Jul 2025 18:54:04
But Dlib, you’re listening to news that you have no idea if it’s fake or not, don’t pretend otherwise! You seem to believe the press when it suits you and not when it don’t… if united wanted Mbeumo so badly, they would have bought him, it’s 100% nothing whatsoever to do with 2.5 million, more fool you for thinking that…. If it was so petty over money on players why on earth let the world know you don’t want Rashford, Sancho, Garnacho, Antony, that will have cost you big time and that’s a Fact, not like yours listening to As beens who need clicks.
08 Jul 2025 07:39:03
{Ed's Note - DLIB has posted a new article entitled, A Glazer-Ineos Alliance Won't Return Manchester United To The Top
1.) 08 Jul 2025 11:11:57
Good post DLIB. But still an awful lot of excuses for a coach that is supposed to be top drawer.
Look, we've got Cunha, Mbuemo will be done soon and those 2 alone are going to make a massive difference. For me the main problem was goals and these two should shake that up a lot.
Then it's dependent on getting players out. It's not going to be ideal as RA has inherited problems, many out of his control.
Unfortunately, I'm not really sure they could do much more other than to try and sell and then bring in the players required. It's going to be a long 2 months. I'm just hoping for RAs sake, he's as good as what he is made out to be and that the new players hit the ground running.
2.) 08 Jul 2025 13:30:02
He needs more than 2 players, although we can add the young wing back we have got Leon and dorgu
But let’s be realistic we need need a number 9 massively.
We need an upgrade on both Maguire and Martinez.
Upgrade on Onana and then we need an athletic cm.
New keeper
Amad. New cb. De ligt yoro. Dorgu
Bruno. Ugarte/ new cm
Mbuembo? New striker. Cunha.
(If its completed)
It’s clear what players are not fit for purpose in this squad we just find it difficult every season to shift those on.
Some players should have been let go 5 years ago when they still had some re sell value instead we keep hold for far to long expecting each new manager to get a tune out of the same bunch of bluffers.
3.) 08 Jul 2025 13:51:39
I'm not going to be terribly sad if we don't sign a no.9. in mbeumo and Cunha you have 2 players that are able to play that role. Also, with them flanking hojlund, they are far more dangerous and take up far more of a defenders time than say garnacho and Mount. You'll also have a fit amad at RWB and Dorgu at LWB with Bruno dropping deeper. I think that is a very exciting starting front 5.
Sure, it will be ideal to get more in but unrealistic until we move on the big wages and big players.
We will do that, I'm sure of it, but it doesn't happen in a couple of weeks. The scenarios for some of these players is very complex. Wages being the most complex and challenging issue.
4.) 08 Jul 2025 14:28:34
Angel - Thanks mate and I agree IF they can get Mbeumo in soon he and Cunha will undoubtedly help the team score more goals.
Having said that, if money is so tight, they are obvious and very expensive transfers especially when their wages are factored in. I’m not complaining because I tink they will both be good transfers, but Mbeumo is drifting and what about other areas of the pitch, especially a new CF and GK.
I was under the impression Christopher Vivell was appointed spearhead recruitment and caste the net further afield. If we don’t have the cash, then we need creative and innovative recruitment and I remain absolutely convinced there are many players out there that could significantly improve our starting 11 without costing the earth!
We seem to have done ok at picking up some youth players recently but you can never truly guarantee their development and we need players ready to improve us now and not in 4 or 5 years time.
My main concern is there is little evidence of a new strategy, there appears to be little innovation in recruitment and we are still taking ages to complete deals. For a side that finished 15, and a new managers first transfer window, where is the urgency to re shape the squad. The youth recruitment does look promising but they need to do much more in order to convince me they can return us to the top!
5.) 08 Jul 2025 15:25:17
I agree DLIB. Ineos claimed that the recruitment strategy would be geared towards unearthing promising players at lower prices through improved scouting.
I’m not sure if enticing players from rival academies and focusing on established players at smaller EPL clubs is evidence of that.
This summer feels like more of the same. With the added pressure of the squad being bloated with players that don’t fit his system.
I think it’s unfair to lay too much blame on Amorim. He has been honest in how his teams will play, and in the need to bring in players that can play his way. It’s why other EPL clubs decided against hiring him, and why Dan Ashworth advised against us bringing him in.
The club was abundantly aware of what would be needed for Amorim to succeed here, and haven’t followed through. From what I’ve seen, Ineos spent a full year planning out a strategy for the club, and completely changed track a few months into last season. The issue is that they haven’t shown any real commitment to this new strategy.
{Ed077's Note - Youth development takes time, unless you buy young players on the fringes of First team at other clubs ( Heaven for example).
6.) 08 Jul 2025 15:40:38
TBF…Heaven looks like he is possibly our best CB, by miles…. that alone says it all……. Martinez is really not good enough and now injured all the time anyway and way he plays is another injury waiting to happen
McGuire and Deligt both lack pace both mobility issues Deligt is slightly more intelligent, but again injury problems, so both waste of time, so we desperately need an experienced commanding CB with pace to play alongside Heaven and Yoro…but RA also knows this and does have a plan…. GK is issue because who wants the clown, so maybe a No 2 comes in on loan hopefully TerStegan because he will dislodge Clown in matter of weeks…
If Mbuemo comes I would try add Mateta to the front line, hopefully he will come. Then get some legs in Midfield… that should make us much better prospect, good enough for top 6, maybe a push, but we can hope.
We need some experience, kids ain’t going to cut it.
7.) 08 Jul 2025 16:49:52
Mateta would also be my shout from the options in the Prem as a striker target beyond the premium ones who've swerved us. He doesn't really feel like a Utd player if I'm honest and isn't a long-term signing but we need players for the now as well as kids for the future and he definitely knows where the net is.
8.) 08 Jul 2025 17:20:06
Yes DLIB but Rome wasn't built in a day and we have some many problems to sort out, many of which probably hold back the likes of Vivell from actually doing his job.
They have obviously put Cunha and Mbeumo as no.1 and no.2 target and decided to spend bigger on those too as it is most important to get goals in.
Then, once outgoings have been made! I'm sure they have their eyes set on others. But none of those can be got until players are sold or moved on by some means.
I'm calm about it and I'm okay to sit back and just wait and see.
I'm more worried that RA seems unable to get a tune out of our current players. Top coaches are able to bring the best out of players regardless of systems, tactics etc. Our players don't seem like they want to react to whatever he is selling in the dressing room and that is a massive worry.
9.) 08 Jul 2025 18:15:19
Mateta would not be my choice in an ideal world, but United and ideal don’t go together at this moment in time, we need hard working souls, who can hit the net when presented in front of them, we can’t rely on youth or potential, we need experienced players, we’re not looking for 3-5 years it’s the here and now 0-3 years.
10.) 08 Jul 2025 18:25:17
For those saying they are not worried about signing a No9, that would be madness. Utter and complete madness and would be the third year without one. Depends what the target is, without a striker we would be fighting for top 10, with one plus other purchases like MBueno, a Cm and a good keeper I think we can ruffle the top four feathers. Yes, I do think Amorim is top notch. I like what he has done with the four or five, separated them from the group. It has the feel of a proper manager.
11.) 08 Jul 2025 18:25:50
If we were to take a Striker from within the league. I'd like Evanilson from Bournemouth. Bit of a fox in the box about him.
12.) 08 Jul 2025 19:51:09
I agree with redman we need a striker.
As its stands we have 3 spots in attack every week.
Assuming mbeumo, cunha bruno mount zirkzee rasmus obi and amad mainoo are the current options i'd suggest.
Amad maybe will be a rwb
Bruno and mainoo may play deeper.
With rasmus out and a new cf in it would not be the worst selection to find a good blend from imo.
13.) 08 Jul 2025 22:16:13
To not add a starting striker to the team would be negligence of the highest order.
It was clear and obvious that the team can’t score goals. No good having better attacking 10’s if the striker is never in the right position, making the wrong runs, and then scuffs the shot when he finally manages to get lucky and be in the right spot.
It doesn’t always have to be an £80m player. I’m sure there would be plenty of players in the world that could do a decent job for a couple of years.
14.) 08 Jul 2025 23:42:54
Mbuemo and Cunha can both play as striker. I'm calm about it if there isn't a decent affordable option available. Getting those two in is massive.
And they will then be able to focus on other areas that will improve us as a team. CM is a problem, GK is a bigger problem.
15.) 09 Jul 2025 05:14:17
Decent striker is absolutely essential even if we get Mbeumo in alongside Cunha, we still 100% need a striker, we have nothing at the moment that even resembles a striker…some saying play Zirkee there that’s ludicrous beyond belief, Rasmus just gets worse not better, he been having 1to1 coaching since RA arrived and if it was even possible he got worse, the EPL is beyond him.
Obi is just too young and inexperienced, we will get a striker in that’s for sure, won’t be the calibre we really need, but anything is better than what we have currently……
Even with it, top 6 is still going to be a push, unless CB, GK and mobile experienced midfielder are also signed, so there is lots to do, RA and the board know this and are working on all those positions at the moment, yes ideally we would have all liked them in by now, so would have the board, but it’s not an ideal world anything but, they will be in by end of window that’s for sure, only one not sure about is GK, because no one buying the clown, so I am hoping for a real number 2 who displaces Clown within weeks, for me I would try loan for the season Ter Stegan from Barca.
16.) 09 Jul 2025 06:46:43
The main reason we were so poor in the last couple of seasons is lack of goals. We cannot go another season without one. That simple.
07 Jul 2025 16:58:22
DLIB has written an article entitled, A Glazer-Ineos Alliance Won't Return Manchester United To The Top
1.) 07 Jul 2025 18:04:54
It’s a joke DLIB.
Everyone knows that United were crap last season.
Everyone knows that Amorim needs to bring new players in.
But the club still thinks it can negotiate a bargain. Mbeumo is a classic example. Player wants to come. His club has set a price, and United have been haggling for over a month. We all know how it’s going to end, United will raise their offer, and get him. Only, Amorim won’t have had a preseason to integrate him.
Plus, it feels like the club is completely incapable of working on more than one signing at the same time.
Yes, money is an issue, but it often feels like the club get completely bogged down on transfer negotiations, and the manager is playing catch-up trying to integrate players once the season starts.
2.) 07 Jul 2025 18:45:48
We’re not Real Madrid, we’ve got a poor side and the whole world knows it, so until we get a better team when we are able to walk away from deals more easily and negotiate from a position of strength we should accept our current status.
We made a couple of bids for Branthwaite last season and moved onto to different options quite quickly and it appeared things were about to change but then we negotiated for weeks on Ugarte and paid £60m for a player then didn’t even want and arrived late after the season had already started, same with De Ligt and Mazrauroi and this Mbeumo deal is fast becoming the new saga as everyone knows Amorim needs him for pre season, to make things worse there is no obvious pivot option, we’ve been negotiating for weeks and we’ve been sleeping on other positions.
This summer was supposed to be a signal of intent, get players in quickly for a new manager that desperately needs them for in preseason! If Mbeumo doesn’t make the tour I think we all know the pressure on Amorim will be unbelievable. I don’t even think Mbeumo was enough, we needed a new CF and GK on tour as well. That was the minimum requirement in my opinion. The Club have known the extremely difficult start to the season for a couple of weeks now yet still no urgency.
You don’t need a crystal ball to foresee Amorim in real trouble come the Autumn and then what?
To make matters even worse City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea have all significantly strengthened meaning we’re even further behind and we’re supposed to be catching up.
These people have no idea how to run a football Club. Their indecision, lack of planning and arrogance will end up costing themselves even more money. Their plan of cost cutting in flawed, because as we cut other teams are getting stronger.
Ineos should never have partnered with up with the Glazers and it’s not becoming obvious they don’t have a plan and whilst they sack all their staff and wait for the financials to improve other teams are just getting stronger. The Club needed a massive injection of cash not savage cuts and it’s more likely we’ll fall further behind rather than catch up over the coming years plus we still have absolutely no idea how they will fund a new stadium. I thought it was impossible to get worse owners than the Glazers but Ineos are almost as bad and together they are a disaster.
3.) 07 Jul 2025 19:15:14
United need better players to improve the team and move us forward, to do that the squad needs investment however we lack the funds to do so. Why? Because we’ve been poor the last few seasons and have made bad transfer decisions therefore we are in a financial black hole. Not sure how the club gets out of the mess the glazers have put us in. One things for sure if we don’t get better players then our performances won’t get better and thus our income won’t increase. Catch 22!
4.) 07 Jul 2025 20:49:04
Get the feeling the club thinks ruben was a mistake and they're doing their best to screw him over. poor start with few signings and bad apples still at the club means only one outcome come November. rinse and repeat. God I hate the glazers and what they've done.
5.) 07 Jul 2025 22:21:26
utter tripe. your club have backed every single manager with money. amorim has already spent 65m?
6.) 08 Jul 2025 04:55:35
Dlib, we are nowhere near competing with city, Arsenal, Liverpool or even Chelsea, so they hardly matter what they done…
Utter codswallop saying the club not backing RA so they can sack him, where is peoples sense!
17 Jul 2025 13:46:06
All I’ll say is why have we not moved on to other targets? Over 6 weeks now and counting and with other areas of the pitch that also urgently need improving what exactly are we waiting for?
This reeks of incompetence yet again, or we’ve got no money which then begs the question why did Ineos choose to work with the Glazer’s?
11 Jul 2025 12:39:35
I’d be amazed if Barcelona signed Rashford and by the time they do will Mbeumo still be available?
My prediction Rashford, Sancho and Antony will all go out on loan right at the end of the window.
10 Jul 2025 20:29:43
Surely that can’t be true! Maybe he’s at Carrington training away from the 1st team like Rashford!
12 Jun 2024 10:01:51
Good post Wazza.
29 May 2024 09:11:14
Good post Shaw llets see what happens in the coming days.
15 Sep 2025 14:15:53
Good post Danny.
28 Aug 2025 09:56:04
This Club doesn’t do the obvious.
12 Jul 2025 11:26:29
Shappy - Nobody is panicking, just stating the obvious.
Out of interest, as it stands, where do you think we’ll finish next season?
Mbeumo has the option of another year by the way.
12 Jul 2025 09:43:46
German - Are you a Trump supporter? Fake news come on pal!
Ornstein, Romano, Ben Jacob’s, many other reputable journalists have all confirmed Utd have made two bids for Mbeumo and they want the player. If you want to live in a world of fake news and conspiracies where you can’t believe anything, go ahead, I’ll converse with the sensible posters. Yes, I do think they are arguing about £2m and again you ignore the evidence. Ratcliffe has sacked half the work force, he’s stopped serving food in the canteen, he stopped a £40k per year payment to charity, why would you not believe they would be haggling about a relatively small amount? Again just plainly ignoring the evidence to suit your own warped agenda. This is not my imagination, you choose what you want to believe but to me you’re just an ostrich with your head buried in the sand not applying any kind of logic, knowledge or common sense to most of your posts. I’ve tried but I can’t engage in any sensible debate or conversation with you, we move on.
11 Jul 2025 19:24:46
Tumble - despite my fierce criticism of the Glazers and Ineos, I’m realistic, I don’t expect to get everyone in one window and I think if we’d have got the Mbeumo deal over the line, he and Cunha adding potentially 30-35 goals next season between them I’d be a lot more relaxed.
Then if we need sales to get a CF, CM and GK I think we’d be a lot more patient.
Some think a new CF is absolutely paramount but with Cunha and Mbeumo both adding a significant goal threat, I think Zirkzee can contribute, so whilst I’d prefer a CF, I think we’d score more goals with Cunha and Mbeumo to expect a significant improvement next season and certainly something to build on.
I must confess I’m deeply concerned about the Mbeumo deal and with no obvious pivot option if we miss out I’m genuinely worried about where the goals will come from!