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20 Jan 2021 09:37:43
Hi Ed002, hope you're good.

Thanks for the Lingard update. Let's hope at least one of the 6 clubs you mentioned make him an offer. I'd despair if Utd gave him a new contract.

Any news on Jones, Rojo and Romero?

{Ed002's Note - Sergio Romero (G) out of contract with an offer from Inter Miami on the table - may look to stay in England but would not be a starter. Valencia have spoken with his agent about a pre-contract. Not keen on a return to Argentina just yet.
Phil Jones (CB) an option for Burnley if James Tarkowski leaves. Else would likely need to drop down to the Championship to find a club where he would start.
Marcos Rojo (LWB/CB) not wanted and another mess caused by the amateurs at Old Trafford – Fiorentina were interested at the start of 2020 but MU blocked the move and he ended up on loan at Estudiantes. They wanted to keep him on loan for the last year of his contract - or could have taken him for perhaps €5M spread over the season and the player wished to stay there. Another mistake by the amateurs. He is another player for which there are limitations where he could move to. Manchester United are of course not assisting and after pricing him out of a move to Estudiantes, who really only wanted another loan in any case - that would have given Manchester United a loan fee as his contract runs down. So they have been stuck with another player that has been offered around. Estudiantes remain interested but Boca Juniors are pushing to have Manchester United release him this month rather than in the summer. Cruz Azul have said they were looking at him as a CB option after being offered the player. Penerol were also offered the player and I suspect others were as well.


1.) 20 Jan 2021 11:26:58
Thanks Ed002, much appreciated.


2.) 20 Jan 2021 14:58:34
Hey ed thanks for the details and the f-wittery that goes on at Utd doesn't surprise me.

Any news on Youth loans?
Pellistri has been mentioned.

{Ed002's Note - Teden Mengi (CB) A January loan is possible. QPR have spoken with Manchester United. Pellestri may get a loan. Diallo will stay with U23s for now.}


3.) 20 Jan 2021 19:16:34
Surprised that romero couldn't be a starter for a Premier league club. I think he's done well for us and clubs could do a lot worse.


4.) 21 Jan 2021 12:27:21
RedD. He'd a lot better than Pickford, Pope and a few others. I'm also surprised there's not more interest in him.


 

 

23 Sep 2020 15:41:13
Ed002, if you don't mind. Do you have insight into the possibility of some of the surplus players leaving the club.

Specifically, Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Dalot, Romero, Grant, Perreria.

Is it that nobody wants to buy them or don't they want to leave? Is the problem their salaries because other clubs won't pay them that much or they won't take a pay cut to secure a move?

The last question might be more difficult to answer, but do you think that they think they might get another chance to play for Utd or is it that they are happy to receive their wages just for turning up to training?

{Ed002's Note - All of this has been answered. Estudiantes want Rojo but are not going to pay the asking price. Phil Jones will not be going anywhere. Lingard will likely look to run down his contract rather than move which is not in his best interests. Dalot is being priced out of a moved or offered as a part exchange. Romero could leave for Valencia in the coming days - very unhappy with the club. No idea about Grant. Pereira was priced out of a move.}


1.) 23 Sep 2020 21:31:51
It somehow gets more farcical by the day. I understand it's a business and the club will want to make money where possible but surely there's one person with some common sense who sees we should cut our losses with some of these players?


2.) 23 Sep 2020 21:44:01
Just when you think it can't get worse. if this doesn't make the club realise they need a DoF, i don't know what will.
We will be holding onto players after haggling over a few mil and paying that and more in wages over the course of the year. Worse, it doesn't free up squad space for new recruits. P**s poor planning.


3.) 23 Sep 2020 21:54:42
Thanks Ed002, your response is much appreciated.

I know the flavour of the month is slag off the club but seems they're damned if they won't accept what they deem to be unacceptably low offers and damned because they won't move on surplus wages.

I think the real problem is wages. Clubs will only offer low fees because of how much the wages make the total cost of taking on the player. In this respect the club has made a rod for its own back.


4.) 23 Sep 2020 23:41:36
Surplus players, not wages.


5.) 24 Sep 2020 08:04:00
A DOF won’t make any difference if they report up the financial route to Woodward, it would still be a financial decision rather than a more balanced one if they report to the board. That way financial is a consideration but not the only one

I would be guessing but trying to use player exchange says they want to retain cash, possibly for a separate bigger deal or just to protect dividends.


6.) 24 Sep 2020 09:41:38
Who in their right mind would price Pereira out of a move? Oh yeah, we're not run by people in their right minds.


7.) 26 Sep 2020 23:20:29
I feel sorry for Romero, the club have treated him like crap and hope he gets the move he wants. I like the guy and he has never really let the team down when he has been called upon.


 

 

18 Sep 2020 20:19:11
Question for Ed002. How can utd get rid of Jones, lingard, rojo and pereira?

{Ed002's Note - Manchester Evening News, "Donkeys For Sale: 0161 868 8000"}


1.) 18 Sep 2020 22:06:56
Hahahaha 😂😂😂.


2.) 18 Sep 2020 22:18:09
Ed002, you need to occupy the stage at the Albert Hall on comedy night.


3.) 18 Sep 2020 22:30:09
LOL Ed.


4.) 18 Sep 2020 22:31:35
Lol. Has anyone tried dialling this number? Is it really the Men? I'm not sure I dare.

Thanks Ed002, can I interest you in a donkey?


5.) 18 Sep 2020 23:09:41
That's cruel.

Some poor farmer or someone might actually need a donkey, call that number and get stuck with Phil Jones.

Sure he can probably haul a load, but he'll spend all harvest injured, and his gurning will traumatize the other animals.


6.) 18 Sep 2020 23:24:32
Lollll.


7.) 19 Sep 2020 08:59:42
Coming into panto season.


8.) 18 Sep 2020 23:03:17
🤣🤣🤣 brilliant ed002.


9.) 19 Sep 2020 13:45:11
Don't know about those other players but signing Jones would mean investing in a personal medical room to keep him company throughout his contract as well as paying his wages. Don't think anyone would be as gracious as Man United to do that.


 

 

19 Jul 2017 17:55:44
I've just read that there's more fantasy football going on at City with the signing of Danilo.

I find it very curious that there was no suggestion we were in for him since in my opinion we need another right back and he is willing to come to Manchester. Plus he was only £26 million!

It could be just that he preferred City or having worked once with our beam of sunshine manager decided never again.

The other possibilities are we have an alternative coming in or simply that Mourinho is happy with the players we have for that position. I noticed Valencia played at right back against Salt Lake and I think TFM got some time there as well. I didn't watch the Galaxy game. Has anyone else played at right back pre-season? Do you think Mourinho is happy to go into the season with those two plus Darmian?


1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:19:44
The fact he has slumped at Real and can't defend might be a reason.


2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:28:38
We can't sign everyone mate. Our targets were Semedo, Fabinho and Aurier. With Danilo plying his trade in Porto for a few years before moving to Madrid, I'm sure Jose knows enough about him and whether he'd suit us, evidently not. It's about getting players in that will suit our system and compliment our other players.


3.) 19 Jul 2017 18:42:23
When dids he work with jose mancman?


4.) 19 Jul 2017 18:53:06
Since the De Gea debarcle last season I can, t see Real Madrid selling us any ground staff never mind any players.
I know we have numerous targets, Perisic, Matic, Fabinho . Jose wanted them on the U. S tour, But you can't make clubs sell their players because we are interested in them.
Still feel a lot of players are not that keen on playing for Jose, It's only because we pay over the odds for players and agent fees, that we get them to sign.
City and pep put in offers for players, and get them.
Long time to go in the market I know, But we don't want to be signing players 24 hrs before season starts, Remember the Fellani deal anyone?


5.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:26
Players want to play for Mourinho but we are not ready to meet he asking price.


6.) 19 Jul 2017 20:27:28
The United money men have their limits and rightly stick to it. Pep is playing a real life version of Football Manager at the moment and is yet to address the left back position and centre half.


7.) 19 Jul 2017 20:34:14
More to the point why buy a 2nd rb who can't defend for 26 mill after shelling out 55 mill for another rb who can't defend. What about their much vaunted academy if they wanted a bench sitter.


8.) 20 Jul 2017 09:22:13
The best right back to come through their academy is now first choice at Spurs and was sold for £3.5 million.


9.) 20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.


 

 

 

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27 Sep 2021 11:09:13
Shappy maintains that Solksjaer will remain in post as long as he secures the expected revenues for the club, mainly through Champions League qualification.

I think he is broadly correct with that assessment but there are a few chinks in what would seem to be a fairly strong position for Solksjaer (new contract and all) .

Firstly, disgruntlement among the players which could manifest itself both on and off the pitch could undermine him.

Secondly, the poor quality of the product. Man Utd have a massive fan base but other clubs are available and fans around the world might prefer other teams which are more successful and better to watch. It won't affect the club in the short term but it it is a long term threat to revenues.

Thirdly, (and I think this might be the one that does for him) ; the crowd reaction at OT. I think overall the worm has turned with fans assessment of Solksjaer; people have lost patience. The crowd at OT is unusual because the overall attitude doesn't seem to match the views of the fanbase in general. I remember when Jose was deeply unpopular but his name was still being sung by a large section of the OT crowd.

I think Solksjaer got away with it last year because of empty stadiums but I think once the boo's start ringing out around the stadium his time will be limited. I think it's a not a look that the board can allow to be broadcast around the world for very long.


1.) 27 Sep 2021 11:30:21
I think one of the things that protects his position is that ex-players are reluctant to criticise him. With Jose and LVG the ex-players in the media were able to amplify supporter discontent. You had former players saying that it wasn’t the United way and so on.

For Ole, it’s all his old mates, so they’ve been broadly supportive. The style of football under Ole is as defensive and boring as it was under Jose and LVG. But the ex-players in the media have constantly claimed that we are headed in the right direction and playing like a United side.

Without ex-players in the media echoing what the fans are saying, it’s much more difficult to put pressure on Ole’s position.


2.) 27 Sep 2021 12:20:10
The ex-players have started to turn on him this season Danny.
Neville and Ferdinand for instance looks to have lost their patience.


3.) 27 Sep 2021 12:27:35
If we continue to lose matches he will be fired.
I don't expect us to lose to either villareal or Everton so it's not as imminent as it should be.
I can see us getting really thumped by one of the better teams soon enough that might just be the catalyst for his removal.


4.) 27 Sep 2021 12:32:02
Ignore shappy he has no idea what he is taking about.
He has no inside knowledge he is just guessing and assuming.
He writes like its fact but he is only expressing his opinion.


5.) 27 Sep 2021 12:32:56
I'm sure you're right Danny but people know what they see and they don't like it. It might take a bit longer without ex players criticism but I believe it's the inevitable destination.

I've binned going to OT 'cos it's a waste of my time even though I get free tickets and I only live 3 miles away. If you're one of the poor saps spending loads of money and travelling large distances surely sooner or later you're going to let the club know what you think about the tripe Ole is serving you week in week out? You don't need Paul Scholes or Gary Neville's blessing.


6.) 27 Sep 2021 13:49:24
Getting a bit personal with regard to Shappy, Ken. He has his opinion as you have yours. It’s a “banter” site. Views are always subjective. Even yours!

{Ed014's Note - no worse than Shappy pointing out Ken’s spelling mistake yesterday, Ken hasn’t directly abused Shappy but given an opinion on the content of Shappys post.


7.) 27 Sep 2021 14:09:13
Patrick, I've had the pleasure of meeting Ken in person a couple of times for the charity matches. He's a top fella and I don't take any offense from what he says and I'm sure he doesn't take any offense from what I say.

I think when you've met someone face to face you can take the banter slightly further than you might with someone who you've never met.

Although I do appreciate your concern. Ken knows I'm talking as much waffle as he is.


8.) 27 Sep 2021 14:31:56
Good man yourself! At the end of the day we all want the same thing!


9.) 27 Sep 2021 14:44:56
Patrick, that's the most important point. We all want United to do well, to play good football, to challenge for the biggest honours and to win things.

We all might disagree what is best or how to get there, but we all will all be happy if United play well and win.


10.) 27 Sep 2021 14:57:34
Patrick that was in defence of shappy as someone he wired writes and it looks like he is giving a definitive but he doest like writing unnecessary letters and forgets to say 'imo' ?
All of us with the exception of those itk just give opinions.


11.) 27 Sep 2021 14:07:53
And certainly no worse then Shappy calling me a Jackass…. then A troll which was completely overlooked by the Mods on these pages and all because I disagreed with his stat based statements.

So Ken making that statement about Shappy is not out of line at all, if we are going by what the Mods on this page read and allowed to be posted by Shappy which is not banter or anything to do with United but a personal attack on me, so that was overlooked which I find baffling, but it’s water of a ducks back to me but just mentioned because can’t be one rule for one and one for another.

{Ed014's Note - mate we don’t catch everything and reading the endless tripe spouted by Shappy is mind numbing so apologies mate.


12.) 27 Sep 2021 16:01:18
Jackamus, it was intended as banter and I did post emojis at the end of each sentence to further highlight that it was said tongue in cheek. Unfortunately the emojis didn't go through, I think there is a little issue with them currently on the site.

You say it's water off a ducks back and I'm glad, but still want to say sorry if it did cause any offense. Like I said it was never intended to.

I take everything as banter, whether it's intended to be or not. Because it doesn't benefit me to think any differently. Also everything I say is intended as banter, I don't have any beef with anyone as personally I don't really care enough about what other people say to let it upset me. However I appreciate that not everything I say may come across as the banter it is intended to be.


13.) 27 Sep 2021 16:13:48
No problem at all Shappy, it’s a banter site after all, I’m not one of the get offended brigade either there are too many of them in the world already!


 

 

20 Apr 2021 11:30:30
What effect will this whole hoohah have on transfers? Surely every planned or thought about transfer will be on hold until the players are clear on the implications for their careers.

{Ed002's Note - Of course not.}


1.) 20 Apr 2021 12:50:52
I would consider everything from both sides currently to be bluster. What is happening currently is a public wrangle for negotiating position superiority.

As said previously, banning players from FIFA and UEFA international competitions would be akin to cutting their nose off to spite their face. Same for the individual FA's to expel teams from association competitions.

The reality of the situation is they are trying to put pressure and undermine the bargaining position of the "elite" clubs, so that when they all come to the table to discuss how to move forward they have a stronger position and will have to give up less.

The governing bodies need to remove any notion that an alternative competition could work in tandem with their competitions in order to delegitimise the threat. If an alternative competition is a genuine option then it can very much be used to leverage more control and importantly money from the governing bodies.

If it's not really an option then suddenly the clubs have a much weaker hand when negotiating.

It's all rather unsavoury, but then fighting over money always is. Ultimately I suspect the result will be a restructuring of the existing competitions with things such as seedings for certain clubs meaning they don't have to qualify by position in the league but by "historic" relevance to the competition, maybe more money from TV or increased distribution rights, etc.

The reality is the C.V. has blown a hole in the finances of some of the biggest clubs in the world, while for several of them their financial position wasn't the strongest. Both Real Madrid and Barcelona have far more debt than we do for example. While clubs like Bayern Munich or PSG who due to varying reasons are in a strong and stable financial position have declined to be part of it. Italian football is struggling and they can't compete with the rest of the big European leagues for the biggest and best players. For the 6 English teams its obvious, all of them rely on UCL qualification to a degree, while with those 6 sides and the likes of Leicester who have recently been pushing higher in the league there is a clear concern that 7 teams don't fit into 4 UCL places. Therefore ringfencing their position in the ESL would alleviate that concern.

Cracks are already starting to appear within the ESL teams, with whispers of discontent etc. Ultimately it isn't surprising as all the teams are only looking out for themselves. All teams in the ESL would sell the others down the river if they can get what they want from the negotiations.

As fans as frustrating as it is all we can really do is sit back and see how things pan out.

{Ed002's Note - PSG have not declined. They were not one of the three clubs who said no. This isn't "bluster" either.}


2.) 20 Apr 2021 13:16:39
Aren't Bayern, Dortmund and PSG rumoured to be the three mystery clubs.
That means of the of the 4 billion football fans around the world, 2 billion will support one of these 15 clubs, that's quite a monopoly.

Unfortunately football has been a victim of its own success, all those expensive signings we wanted, flashy new stadiums, this is where it has ended up. We can't complain.


3.) 20 Apr 2021 13:45:28
I don't think it is "cutting their nose off to spite their face" at all.

The 12 clubs acted upon their own interest outside of their football governing bodies. If the teams think they are above their respective bodies, they should have no participation in their competitions. Football is a game for everyone. Why should the elite be any more exclusive. If they want to be exclusive, they can be exclusive on their own platform and play by themselves.

I am fully supportive of removing the clubs from their respective domestic competitions and banning the players competing at international level.


4.) 20 Apr 2021 14:22:09
Kurtis - I completely agree mate. They can’t have their cake and eat it. They basically want it all, the money and revenue from competing in domestic football whilst setting up their own closed competition which they don’t have to share. The arrogance and selfishness is abhorrent.

If you want out then at least have the courage of your own convictions, leave domestic football, create your own league, negotiate your own tv deal, sponsorship and reap what you sow!

A few selfish businessmen who don’t even inhabit our shores or have any infinity to our great game has brought European football to the brink of extinction. Anyone who thinks this is an over exaggeration needs to wake up and see what’s happening. This is not postering or peacocking but an all out assault on the very fabric and foundations of our national game. This is not evolution but revolution and make no mistake our game is in grave peril.


5.) 20 Apr 2021 15:21:50
Kurtis, Of course its cutting their nose off to spite their faces. They make huge sums of money based off of people tuning in to see the best players and the best teams. If a governing body expels them from their competition to prove a point then cutting their noses off to spite their face is exactly what they are doing.

While banning players from international football is just plain nasty and spitefulness in my opinion. The players haven't made this choice and from what they are saying they had no idea their clubs were going to do this. They are contracted to those clubs and cannot legally break those contracts. They are effectively stuck, with very few options open to them.

We have seen Pogba for three years want to leave our club and he looks set to be stuck here for at least one more.

So banning players for a decision they haven't made is a horrible response. Its nasty and designed entirely to pressure the clubs and create a negative narrative around the entire situation.

It would also almost certainly lead to legal action from the players against the governing bodies. Denying right to work, the governing bodies would be taken to the cleaners in every court in Europe.


6.) 20 Apr 2021 16:37:44
Shappy I’m sorry but you and the rest of the apologists need to wake up and realise what is happening. This is an assault on our national game, it is the theft of our biggest sporting institutions which has all been done under the cloak of secrecy without proper dialogue or negotiation.

Players lost their lives representing our Club, Liverpool fans lost their lives supporting their Club at Hillsborough, these Clubs are over 100 years old and belong to the people some of whom have lost their lives following their passion. The Glazers might have bought Utd but they do not own us! You can’t simply buy over 100 years of history and tradition and this is what we must all fight to preserve. Sir Matt Busby once said “football is nothing without fans” and that statement is as true today as it was over 50 years ago.

The only nasty, spiteful characters in this scenario are the greedy, spineless, owners and CEO’s intent on monopolising the greatest sport on earth for the sole intention of lining their own pockets.

It wasn’t the miners, steelworkers or shipbuilders fault when they lost their jobs and saw their communities decimated all in the name of progress.

Players and managers must come together, mobilise and decide on what side of the fence they sit!
Do they stand with the thousands of other Clubs and professional players on the outside of a closed shop looking in or with their cowardly employers who couldn’t even be bothered to explain their plans and have threatened their careers.

We cannot allow these hallow charlatans to monopolise our national game and which means so much to so many people.

Bill Shankly once famously said “some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it’s much more serious than that! ”

I think these greedy, cretins have vastly underestimated our affinity and love for our Clubs and this great game something the capitalist vultures will never understand on the other side of the pond.


7.) 20 Apr 2021 16:43:01
I think there is a fine line here between reasonable punishment on the club and doing it in spite. For me this falls under a reasonable punishment.

I agree with your point about International Players being banned, however I think it should ultimately fall down to player choice. If the player chooses to remain in the ESL they should be banned under the same principles as the club.

I'm not sure how player contracts will work if clubs are removed. Technically they are registered and contracted to the club, but these are regulated by UEFA and the respective FAs. If UEFA no longer recognise the clubs does that void the contracts?

{Ed002's Note - UEFA have nothing to do with regulating player contracts.}


8.) 20 Apr 2021 17:02:49
Sorry Ed, are player contracts regulated at all? I thought there would be something in place, at the least with the FA of the respective country.

{Ed002's Note - The contract is between the player and the club - the details of transfers and length of contracts are included on FIFA's TMS - I don't know what you mean by regulated.}


9.) 20 Apr 2021 17:17:55
Sorry Ed it will just be my understanding. I work in a heavily regulated industry so I just imagined there would be some form of regulating on the contracts or practices.


 

 

01 Feb 2021 12:12:10
Here’s an idea for everyone to shoot down.

What about this Utd squad adopting a 442 or a 4411 set up? A genuine 4 with width across midfield not a diamond.

Rashford on the left and Pogba on the right of midfield. Central midfield two out of VdB, McTom, Fred or Matic. Bruno or Mata with Cavani or Greenwood up top.


1.) 01 Feb 2021 13:20:12
Pogba on the flanks is a really bad idea. He neither has the discipline nor the commitment to play in that position in the PL especially when we don't have possession. The opposition will have a free run at Bissaka at every given opportunity.

I would opt for the following players:

LM - James/ Telles
RM - Rashford/ James
CM - Fred/ McTom/ Matic with Pogba/ VDB
CAM - Bruno/ VDB/ Mata
ST - Cavani/ Greenwood

Lot of possible combinations with Bruno/ Pogba/ VDB in that midfield area.


2.) 01 Feb 2021 14:05:18
LPU, a few weeks ago I might have agreed about Pogba but just recently he seems to have decided to put in the defensive work off the ball. He played on the right of midfield and I think it was when Utd went one up against Burnley and went 442. That was what made me suggest it because he it seemed to suit everyone.

Of course, Pogba might revert to his old self and like you say Bissaka would be badly exposed. But would it be any worse than what Shaw has to deal with every time Martial plays on the left?


 

 

31 Jan 2021 14:42:46
I've tried giving him the benefit of the doubt but after considering all the evidence there can be no other conclusion other than Solksjaer must be a bit thick.

Intelligent people learn from their mistakes.

Intelligent people work to get the most from the resources at their disposal.

Intelligent people develop effective solutions to problems.

Solksjaer exhibits none of this behaviour; ergo Solksjaer is a managerial dunce.

Just another example of someone being promoted to their level of incompetence.

With someone so stupid in charge we have no chance of anything good happening until he goes.

Eight years of serial sub par rubbish and still the nightmare continues. When will it ever end?


1.) 31 Jan 2021 15:03:24
I was having a chat with a few friends via zoom the other night and we came to a conclusion.

There are two types of football manager.

The first is a manager first and a coach second. They tend to look at the big picture and focus more on things like club standing, results, personnel, logistics etc.

The second is a coach first, they are obsessed with tactics, and developing players.

Some managers clearly fall in the second category, while others in to the first.

Pep, Klopp etc are definitely coach first manager second types. They are able to focus on what they are good at as they have club's that have a clear structure above them with people taking care of several issues that at other clubs fall to the manager.

Sir Alex is probably the most famous example of the former type. Someone who is more inclined to manage and leave the coaching to the the coaches beneath them.

Where this becomes relevent is that a clear sign of managers who played under Sir Alex is they have taken a lot of his management style into their own. Mark Hughes, Bryan Robson, Roy Keane, Gordan Strachen, Steve Bruce etc. All less involved on the training pitch and more from their desk.

Ole appears to be in the same boat, he doesn't seem like a coaching manager. Often how well a United played under Sir Alex depended on how good his No.2 was.

Personally I wonder how much of our current tactical issues come from a coaching staff of Phelan (very inspiring during his time at United as a coach), Carrick (hugely inexperienced) and McKenna (inexperienced at this level) .

Which of our coaching team (manager included) looks like a top class cutting edge coach. The kind of guy who'll introduction new techniques and drills, keep the players on their toes, develop key parts of their game etc?


2.) 31 Jan 2021 15:23:21
Ole is not the man for the job. But watching that game yesterday the players lack a lot of desire and hunger to win. Missing chances. Sideway passing. No tackles. They were in a good position and just didn't go after the win.
Some of the best games I've seen in the pl were united v arsenal but that game yesterday was like a training season.


3.) 31 Jan 2021 16:32:07
I'm becoming increasingly frustrated despite our league position. We are rarely fun to watch, with a lack of energy and passion apart from occasional bursts.

There are Still positions to fix but it just feels. like the team isn't up for it often enough and that's inexcusable.


4.) 31 Jan 2021 16:36:13
Good post manc man.


5.) 31 Jan 2021 16:42:35
All comes from the coach Leathy. If players have learned to be negative waiting at low block for opponents you can't just push a button and make them be aggressive whenever you want.
I have seen many interviews of Jose saying "I didn't tell my players to sit so deep but to be more aggressive at pressing" and that "the players simply couldn't make something else or something better". I believe him. In some matches (like against Wolves) i don't think the instructions were to sit so deep waiting for opponents to waste all of their chances and win 0-1. But the players did what they learned from their coach. In training seasons did they learned to press high and aggressively? No, they learned to defend at low block. So you can't just tell them go and press because they don't know how, that's not their philosophy.


6.) 31 Jan 2021 19:34:49
Whatever is going on in the coaching set up, there is a lack of ideas, courage and organisation.

The problem is just the mediocrity of it all. It's not terrible which is why posters like Jred can point to perceived improvements, it's just so insipid and uninspiring.

I don't understand how a manager at a supposed top level club can keep his job when his team is so one dimensional, so disorganised and so often just plain disinterested.

This is no way to win things. Just relying on frustrating other teams then the odd flash of off the cuff skill can only get you so far.

I honestly don't know why I keep banging on. Maybe venting like this is therapeutic?


7.) 31 Jan 2021 20:02:14
Manc,

I totally agree, I just wrote similar above and then saw your post, he isn’t close to getting sacked in my opinion though, the club isn’t run by fans like us who want success, they see financial success as good enough and at the moment they will be getting that (obviously not as much without fans) .


8.) 31 Jan 2021 22:02:06
Agreed GDS2, unfortunately I think he is very safe in his job atm as long as he makes top 4. That's probably why he is such a loser.


 

 

25 Jan 2021 15:42:22
Now that was entertainment and so I am satisfied. Football as it should be and shows what can happen if Utd grow a pair and put the front foot forward.

I thought Solksjaer did well apart from the selection of DvB out of position at No 10, he would have been better with Mata at 10 and playing DvB in midfield.

I was particularly pleased to see Utd go 4 4 2 for the last 25 minutes or so; it worked well and I wonder if there is some future in that line up with Pogba out on the right. Some might say it's a throw back but it's working quite well for Hassenhuttl and he seems like quite a progressive manager.

Anyway, kudos to Solksjaer for his overall team choice, his tactics and his in game management yesterday.


1.) 25 Jan 2021 15:54:55
Well said MancMan.

Things are going really well at the moment and we should all step back and enjoy it for what it is.

Top of the league and we've just knocked our biggest rivals out of the FA Cup.

No need to get caught up in will we/ won't we, just enjoy the good times while they are here and see where it takes us.


2.) 25 Jan 2021 16:09:27
Well said guys.

I get so much more out of a back and forth, late goal, 3-2 win than any number of 1-0, park the bus games.

Let's enjoy the moment.


3.) 25 Jan 2021 17:26:04
Yes manc i enjoyed that game.

Ive said before i don't identify with this team but their spirit and fight is becoming evident and i do identify with that.


4.) 26 Jan 2021 06:58:43
Yes Ken, the fighting spirit and character is very good.
The coaching staff should now look to build a good identity and patterns of playing style.


5.) 26 Jan 2021 10:36:24
Agreed TRD, we can't just rely on the counterattack. Solksjaer has got a good thing going and I respect that. I still think he is limited as a manager and he makes a lot of poor decisions. But I've underestimated him so far and he has exceeded my expectations. Let's hope he can kick on and prove me completely wrong.


 

 

 

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16 Oct 2021 08:46:48
Ed002, Man Utd?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

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26 Jan 2021 16:39:16
A plan at Man Utd? Ha ha, that's a good one Shappy.


 

 

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20 Jan 2021 11:28:43
Mmmmm, Birmingham or Nice? Tough decision that!

{Ed002's Note - Jesse Lingard (AM) out of contract but options are reducing. Nice interest has gone as they wanted a loan in January which only works if he renews his contract for a further year. Manchester United have been informed of the situation by a third party and apparently have no interest in such a transaction. Atletico Madrid were given a report on the player that has caused them to step back. Prior interest of Roma has switched to a different player. Real Sociedad have spoken with Real Madrid about the loan of a player and they can now be discounted. That leaves options in the Premier League with Newcastle, West Ham and Sheffield United now interested. Manchester United may offer to extend to save money on purchases.}


 

 

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20 Jan 2021 11:27:50
Is sign him just for the name alone. Bobby the Norman!


 

 

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20 Jan 2021 11:26:58
Thanks Ed002, much appreciated.


 

 

 

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16 Oct 2021 11:47:05
Nah Shappy, he's pants. Best juzt to sell him and buy a better player.


 

 

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16 Oct 2021 06:12:00
Lingard offers something different to Bruno and Bruno can't plsy every minute of every game.

All i'm saying is that he earned another chance with the way he played for West Ham. Its the job of the manager to find that player and that can't be done while he's sitting on the bench.

It may be that the games he played at West Ham were a false dawn, probably!

I thought Solksjaer encouraged him tbat he had a future at Utd. I tbink if he'd told him he wasn't in ghis plans tben he would have moved.

I think Lingard wants to play so he has a chance of making the England squad.


 

 

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15 Oct 2021 23:31:28
Jrred, we all love a good come back and I think its worth a look to see if Lingard can play for Utd like he did for West Ham.

There's always been a player in there and it may just have clicked with him. i'd like to give him another chance.


 

 

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15 Oct 2021 12:47:15
It's getting really stale keep repeating the same old same old but this is really another problem created by Solksjaer.

Every member of the squad should have a defined role. To my mind there should be two players share each position and they rotate in and out without any real loss of quality. The players should all have a complete understanding of their role within the team and complete understanding of how to play their position within the system; it should be seamless.

Looking at Lingard through this lens, what is he in the squad to do? What's his role? I bet he doesn't even know himself what he is doing at Man Utd anymore.

With Utd's squad it's not hard; Ronaldo/ Cavani, Rashford/ Pogba, Sancho/ Greenwood, DvB/ Fred, McTominay/ Matic, Dalot/ AWB, Varane/ Lindelof, Maguire/ Bailly, Bruno/ Lingard? and then the youngsters should be played as and when it is prudent or injuries require cover, OR they are looking better than the regular first teamers.

Lingard is also one of these players where we don't know whether there is any point in keeping them because they hardly ever play so they can't develop any consistency and they can't be rated.

So it's impossible to answer your question Shappy. I think like DVB, he should be given a run of games and then we know if he's worth keeping and playing. There's only any point in him being at Utd if he's good enough and if he's good enough then he should be getting games.


 

 

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14 Oct 2021 15:13:24
What are people's feelings on Menji? Is he ready for the first team and would he provide a better option than Bailly or Lindelof?

I've not seen him. What are his strengths?