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23 Sep 2020 15:41:13
Ed002, if you don't mind. Do you have insight into the possibility of some of the surplus players leaving the club.

Specifically, Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Dalot, Romero, Grant, Perreria.

Is it that nobody wants to buy them or don't they want to leave? Is the problem their salaries because other clubs won't pay them that much or they won't take a pay cut to secure a move?

The last question might be more difficult to answer, but do you think that they think they might get another chance to play for Utd or is it that they are happy to receive their wages just for turning up to training?

{Ed002's Note - All of this has been answered. Estudiantes want Rojo but are not going to pay the asking price. Phil Jones will not be going anywhere. Lingard will likely look to run down his contract rather than move which is not in his best interests. Dalot is being priced out of a moved or offered as a part exchange. Romero could leave for Valencia in the coming days - very unhappy with the club. No idea about Grant. Pereira was priced out of a move.}

1.) 23 Sep 2020 21:31:51
It somehow gets more farcical by the day. I understand it's a business and the club will want to make money where possible but surely there's one person with some common sense who sees we should cut our losses with some of these players?

2.) 23 Sep 2020 21:44:01
Just when you think it can't get worse. if this doesn't make the club realise they need a DoF, i don't know what will.
We will be holding onto players after haggling over a few mil and paying that and more in wages over the course of the year. Worse, it doesn't free up squad space for new recruits. P**s poor planning.

3.) 23 Sep 2020 21:54:42
Thanks Ed002, your response is much appreciated.

I know the flavour of the month is slag off the club but seems they're damned if they won't accept what they deem to be unacceptably low offers and damned because they won't move on surplus wages.

I think the real problem is wages. Clubs will only offer low fees because of how much the wages make the total cost of taking on the player. In this respect the club has made a rod for its own back.

4.) 23 Sep 2020 23:41:36
Surplus players, not wages.

5.) 24 Sep 2020 08:04:00
A DOF won’t make any difference if they report up the financial route to Woodward, it would still be a financial decision rather than a more balanced one if they report to the board. That way financial is a consideration but not the only one

I would be guessing but trying to use player exchange says they want to retain cash, possibly for a separate bigger deal or just to protect dividends.

6.) 24 Sep 2020 09:41:38
Who in their right mind would price Pereira out of a move? Oh yeah, we're not run by people in their right minds.

7.) 26 Sep 2020 23:20:29
I feel sorry for Romero, the club have treated him like crap and hope he gets the move he wants. I like the guy and he has never really let the team down when he has been called upon.



18 Sep 2020 20:19:11
Question for Ed002. How can utd get rid of Jones, lingard, rojo and pereira?

{Ed002's Note - Manchester Evening News, "Donkeys For Sale: 0161 868 8000"}

1.) 18 Sep 2020 22:06:56
Hahahaha 😂😂😂.

2.) 18 Sep 2020 22:18:09
Ed002, you need to occupy the stage at the Albert Hall on comedy night.

3.) 18 Sep 2020 22:30:09

4.) 18 Sep 2020 22:31:35
Lol. Has anyone tried dialling this number? Is it really the Men? I'm not sure I dare.

Thanks Ed002, can I interest you in a donkey?

5.) 18 Sep 2020 23:09:41
That's cruel.

Some poor farmer or someone might actually need a donkey, call that number and get stuck with Phil Jones.

Sure he can probably haul a load, but he'll spend all harvest injured, and his gurning will traumatize the other animals.

6.) 18 Sep 2020 23:24:32

7.) 19 Sep 2020 08:59:42
Coming into panto season.

8.) 18 Sep 2020 23:03:17
🤣🤣🤣 brilliant ed002.

9.) 19 Sep 2020 13:45:11
Don't know about those other players but signing Jones would mean investing in a personal medical room to keep him company throughout his contract as well as paying his wages. Don't think anyone would be as gracious as Man United to do that.



19 Jul 2017 17:55:44
I've just read that there's more fantasy football going on at City with the signing of Danilo.

I find it very curious that there was no suggestion we were in for him since in my opinion we need another right back and he is willing to come to Manchester. Plus he was only £26 million!

It could be just that he preferred City or having worked once with our beam of sunshine manager decided never again.

The other possibilities are we have an alternative coming in or simply that Mourinho is happy with the players we have for that position. I noticed Valencia played at right back against Salt Lake and I think TFM got some time there as well. I didn't watch the Galaxy game. Has anyone else played at right back pre-season? Do you think Mourinho is happy to go into the season with those two plus Darmian?

1.) 19 Jul 2017 18:19:44
The fact he has slumped at Real and can't defend might be a reason.

2.) 19 Jul 2017 18:28:38
We can't sign everyone mate. Our targets were Semedo, Fabinho and Aurier. With Danilo plying his trade in Porto for a few years before moving to Madrid, I'm sure Jose knows enough about him and whether he'd suit us, evidently not. It's about getting players in that will suit our system and compliment our other players.

3.) 19 Jul 2017 18:42:23
When dids he work with jose mancman?

4.) 19 Jul 2017 18:53:06
Since the De Gea debarcle last season I can, t see Real Madrid selling us any ground staff never mind any players.
I know we have numerous targets, Perisic, Matic, Fabinho . Jose wanted them on the U. S tour, But you can't make clubs sell their players because we are interested in them.
Still feel a lot of players are not that keen on playing for Jose, It's only because we pay over the odds for players and agent fees, that we get them to sign.
City and pep put in offers for players, and get them.
Long time to go in the market I know, But we don't want to be signing players 24 hrs before season starts, Remember the Fellani deal anyone?

5.) 19 Jul 2017 18:59:26
Players want to play for Mourinho but we are not ready to meet he asking price.

6.) 19 Jul 2017 20:27:28
The United money men have their limits and rightly stick to it. Pep is playing a real life version of Football Manager at the moment and is yet to address the left back position and centre half.

7.) 19 Jul 2017 20:34:14
More to the point why buy a 2nd rb who can't defend for 26 mill after shelling out 55 mill for another rb who can't defend. What about their much vaunted academy if they wanted a bench sitter.

8.) 20 Jul 2017 09:22:13
The best right back to come through their academy is now first choice at Spurs and was sold for £3.5 million.

9.) 20 Jul 2017 13:25:35
Ken, you're right. After I posted I realised I hadn't checked whether his time at Real had co-incided with Mourinho's.

Nonetheless, because none of our wide players are natural wingers, I do think we need overlapping attacking fullbacks and both Walker and Danilo would fit the bill.

If we bring in a true defensive midfielder then I'm not so bothered about how well our fullbacks can defend, as long as they are good going forward.




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03 Dec 2020 12:07:28
There was big positive for me last night and that was Cavani.

His movement and workrate are a joy to watch.

When you see Cavani playing, the idea that Martial is a centre forward is quite funny.

1.) 03 Dec 2020 13:02:36
I had doubts about Cavani earlier on but his workrate and attitude is top class.

That chip yesterday, my word was absolutely class and deserved a goal.

His movement is something our young strikers should learn from.

2.) 03 Dec 2020 14:03:00
I was watching last night just wishing I was in the stadium to see his movement, that’s one of the things I can’t wait for, I don’t think tv does players like him justice, it’s going to be a pleasure to watch.

3.) 03 Dec 2020 14:15:18
Only one doubt I have about Cavani and that's his ability to stay fit.

He is top drawer.

4.) 03 Dec 2020 14:49:05
I agree GDS, even watching on the tv I found myself just following Cavani and I was ignoring what was happening around the ball.

Whats more is he combines it with skill and vision. On that showing for me he should be our first choice centre forward.

Players like Cavani and Bruno who never stop moving both in attack and defense, leaving it all on the pitch are why I have no time for lazy players like Pogcrap and Martial who just stand still or wander around or half heartedly and feebly try to close someone down or make a run with no real intent or aggression. Rubbish.

5.) 03 Dec 2020 15:18:50

I was the same haha following cavani round, as a striker myself I love seeing how it should be done, I think I might be too old to put it into practice and make it at the top level now though 😂.

6.) 03 Dec 2020 17:41:24
And here I thought that he was a panic buy, too expensive, too old, injured a lot, haven't played a game in 8 months and his career is over. 😂.

7.) 03 Dec 2020 21:35:00
Trololo, you don't think it was a panic buy? A guy, available on a free for I don't know how long but we wait until a few hours before the window shuts to sign him? Yeah, they knew what they were doing.

Nobody questioned how good a player he is, but rightfully were worried about his injury record, given his age, it was complete viable. He has only played a handful of games yet so let's see how he goes first.

8.) 03 Dec 2020 23:35:01
Angel we have been deprived of quality for years. Unfortunatly the best forwards that have been at the club in the last 8 years are ibra and cavani. They are the only wc forwards that have represented us and we only got them in the twilight of their careers. Cavani was not playing for psg for the last 6 months there and it had little to do with injury.

9.) 04 Dec 2020 02:30:51
It was mainly to do with their season ending in February. He’s a top quality player and it’s a shame we have got him so late in his career.

10.) 04 Dec 2020 07:42:18
I just saw he had a lot of "injuries" on his record over his last year at PSG.

Either way, I will thoroughly enjoy watching him, a fantastic player who will win games on his own at times.

11.) 04 Dec 2020 08:19:53
Angelred, people didn't even wait to see him in action and then judge.
How often are Rashford and Martial injured? I think the biggest question was his age, but in these days, i'm not sure that matters as much - class is class.
How old are Vardy, Ronaldo, Ibra etc?

12.) 04 Dec 2020 09:11:19
Judge what? All that was said was about his injury record, surely it's a valid concern given his age and the amount of games he has missed.

Nobody saying he is finished, we all know he is class. It was just a fans concern.



27 Nov 2020 14:24:13
I'm looking forward to the Southampton game on Sunday. Hasselhuttl has them playing some good stuff.

I hope Solksjaer keeps the same attacking approach with perhaps Williams for AWB, Greenwood for Martial and McTominay for Fred.

I predict 2-2.

1.) 27 Nov 2020 14:29:46
I predict a riot.

2.) 27 Nov 2020 14:30:22
McT and Pogba are injured.
Therefore Matic and Fred may probably start.

3.) 27 Nov 2020 17:31:53
Is mctom injured? I don't think he will start matic and Fred.

4.) 27 Nov 2020 17:46:23
I’d sit Matic in front of the back four and play VDB and Bruno, but that might mean Bruno having to play slightly deeper. Let’s go for them, our away from is immense, let’s go all guns blazing.

5.) 27 Nov 2020 18:00:34
Agree AJH. I think vdb playing further up will be class.

6.) 27 Nov 2020 18:44:43
Psg on the Wednesday as well I wonder if that will play a part in team selection.

7.) 27 Nov 2020 21:53:27
Agree Tony regards your selections, for what its worth i rate Hassenhutl, think he's done a tremendous job at Saints.

8.) 28 Nov 2020 06:31:00
To lose 9-0 and then bounce back was very impressive. Many teams and Managers would have just imploded after that but they did really well.



18 Nov 2020 11:34:39
We talk here a lot about the need for a right winger and a couple of first choice central defenders.

I think though we also need a top quality defensive midfielder; a metronome, a player who keeps the team ticking over, sets up attacks with forward passes and puts us on the front foot. A quarterback type.

I think it especially important in big games where we need to better at ball retention.

Who do you all think could be good in that role for Utd? Did the club miss a trick with Partey and Alcantara? Could Bruno or VdB be effective in that role?

1.) 18 Nov 2020 13:15:23
I agree that we need a proper holding midfielder to replace Matic long term. Matic struggles to play twice a week and isn't getting any younger.

McTominay and Fred for me are better as box to box destroyers, However, you often want to pair such a player with a creative holding midfielder.

For me a prime Michael Carrick would be nice. However, these players are few and far between. Finding one to sign in January will be near impossible I think.

2.) 18 Nov 2020 13:20:08
Shappy, normally you have at least half a dozen candidates to suggest. What's happened?

I don't think Matic is the type of player I am talking about. He isn't the conductor like Pirlo or Scholes.

3.) 18 Nov 2020 13:59:11
Manc man. The issue we have there is that our coach doesn't play with that sort of player. Bruno plays that role but much further up the pitch.
Ole prefers to play 2 behind 1. Or that's as far as i can make out. 2 hard working players in there in his system work best. He gets his best returns when fred and mctom play behind bruno.
We don't dominate possession against the better sides and we are not looking to control the tempo of the game so if you put veratti in our side he would probably be less effective than Sean longstaff.

4.) 18 Nov 2020 14:05:14
Matic is the closest we have to that sort of midfielder. He is a ball playing holding midfielder, he just isn't as renown for his passing. His passing is less creative and more about keeping possession.

Players you could consider would be Sandro Tonali, Reuben Neves and Marc Roca are the names of the ones who stand out.

Slightly older players like Jorginho, Verratti and Kroos are possibly available but are either aging, not tested in a tough league or playing for a rival.

None are as good in my opinion as Pirlo, Scholes or Alonso from the generation before. I would even argue that there are none available who are as good as Carrick was, at least not yet.

5.) 18 Nov 2020 14:09:10
Is pogba not that type of player?

6.) 18 Nov 2020 14:24:07
Is pogba any type of player?

7.) 18 Nov 2020 14:25:27
Pogba is not a player. Show pony.

8.) 18 Nov 2020 14:28:51
Ken, While a lot of Ole's best results have come with two defensive midfielders (mostly Fred and McTominay) . He has tried numerous times to move away from two dedicated holding midfielders. He played both Pogba and Bruno at the end of last season and at the start of this season. So he clearly wants to try and play with less defensive midfielders. Yet often when his backs against the wall and the team is performing poorly the players need that extra security.

Personally I feel the problem is Pogba and his lack of defensive awareness. While he is good going forward and he has the right physical attributes to be good defensively, he too often switches off and doesn't realise the danger until too late. The best creative deep lying playmakers would still know where to be defensively and how to stop space. Pogba moves into space to free himself up to receive passes which is a good trait to have, but he is always looking to be free and he doesn't move back to defend the space when the ball gets turned over.

Personally I feel Donny alongside McTominay or Matic could be a very good midfield option and would provide a better balance between attack and defence.

9.) 18 Nov 2020 14:44:56
I agree on pogba And Donny shappy.
Jred pogba can look that sort of player at intl level. But he does not carry out that role well for united. The game is very different in the epl. I think most hoped he would be the same player us that he is with France or was with and the truth be known he probably is, but the game is different.

10.) 18 Nov 2020 14:46:12
My choice would be Saul Niguez, Denis Zakaria or Declan Rice to partner Bruno and VDB in a midfield three.

11.) 18 Nov 2020 16:48:01
Liverpool and City didn't have too much trouble in finding that type of player in fabinho and rodri.

Maybe the coaching team don't want a player like that in the team and would prefer more combative midfielders in the team like mctominay and fred who their best jobs off the ball and are limited in their ability on the ball.

12.) 18 Nov 2020 16:55:03
Bit of a left field option but I think Harry Winks could do a job there, nice passing range a Carrick sorr of underrated playet.

13.) 19 Nov 2020 12:13:26
mb78, I'm not sure he is good enough. Kalvin Phillips of Leeds looks an interesting player.

14.) 19 Nov 2020 12:29:20
Defensive midfielder -there is definitely needed to replace Matic.

I think Ole likes Kante - and if we can get him he can do a job and so could Rice.

Other options include Axel Witsel from Dortmund who seems to be a United style od player or Joshua Kimmich at Bayern would fit the bill if they become available, We need to look around and seewho we can get. I also think Fosu Mensah could be an iterim solution as he has the right credentials.

15.) 19 Nov 2020 14:18:19
What credentials does tfm have?
When was the last time he played in midfield?

16.) 19 Nov 2020 18:54:41
Prob got more chance of landing Messi than Kimmich. He will be at Bayern for a long while yet.

If ole is sticking to his young British theme then I think Rice is the ideal option.
I was critical of him last year because I thought his first touch was awful, meaning he was always lunging for the ball or losing it but he’s pushed on and its looking like he could cement a place in the England midfield.
Another one, who would be hard to get would be Nicolo Barella at Inter. He’s having a good season, great at breaking up play in front of defence and has a great pass on him. Battling box to box is more his style but he’s quality and would be a great addition.

17.) 20 Nov 2020 12:49:55
Some great posts here and they illustrate that there are some good ball playing midfielders out there.

My view is that we should be trying to inject some more culture and creativity into our midfield. Two battlers doesn't give enough balance between attack and defence. To my mind it can be counter productive as a defensive tactic because I think if you have players who can pass well and keep the ball this is a great form of defence and you get the best of both.

If we look at what we have I would like to see either VDB or bruno alongside one of Matic, Fred or Mctominay. I think we have to try to get dvb and Bruno on the pitch at the same time.

Again, this is a problem with Solkjaer because he is too conservative when the better players in the squad can attack and win football matches.



02 Nov 2020 11:14:36
After just 10 minutes It seemed obvious to everyone except Solkjaer that things were very wrong.

I'd have swapped Cavani and DvB For Pogba and Fred changing it to 4 1 2 3.

What would you all have done to change it?

1.) 02 Nov 2020 11:45:27
Sacked the manger 10 mins into the game frog marched him out of the stadium and on to a 1 way flight to Norway.

2.) 02 Nov 2020 11:48:42
This was the same system we played against Leipzig.

Difference is that players didn't put any sort of effort in or the manager failed to motivate the players.

3.) 02 Nov 2020 11:53:30
Or Arsenal were just better set up to deal with the system TRD.

4.) 02 Nov 2020 12:10:47
Lol Ken, that gave me a chuckle. I have a mental image of you manhandling Solkjaer out of the stadium.

TRD and LLV, you've both put your finger on it. The formation was the same but the motivation of the players was completely different. How can that be?

Also, it seems that Solkjaer is very poor at selecting the right players to fit a system. McTominay was the wrong choice on the right side of the diamond. The obvious choice was DvB. Every man and his dog knew that even before kick off.

And that shows up the other major failing of Solksjaer which is that he doesn't have a plan B. It would have been easy to make changes yesterday so why didn't he? I think the changes he made in Paris were pre-planned, I don't think he reacted in-game.

5.) 02 Nov 2020 12:56:56
That wasn't a motivation issue. It was useless manager issue, in that we set up to play one way, against a team that set up in a way where that system wouldn't work.

Or in other words, the manager didn't set us up correctly and then didn't have the brains to change it.

6.) 02 Nov 2020 13:45:21
I think the DvdB thing is more about fitness levels than him merely being overlooked. That much was clear on Wednesday that he was lacking in match fitness.

7.) 02 Nov 2020 14:42:53
You won't get match fit unless you play in a match. Wont get fit sitting on the bench watching Pogba stroll around.

8.) 02 Nov 2020 15:14:24
Agree Shan but getting match fit requires rest too, not two high profile games in less than a week.



20 Oct 2020 15:38:29
My team for tonight would be 532 - Henderson, AWB, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Shaw, Telles, Matic, Bruno, DvB, Rashford, Martial.

Henderson because he can play higher up the pitch than de Gea leaving less space in behind. Systematic fouling of Neymar. Spread the centre forwards wide. Shaw and Telles on Mbappe, AWB and Tuanzebe take care of de Maria. Tell Bruno to be disiplined with his passing and try to keep possession in midfield. Don't sit too deep. Happy to come away with a draw.

1.) 20 Oct 2020 16:13:58
I'd possibly make two changes, I'd have TFM ahead of Tuanzebe. Only due to Tuanzebe being out for so long this seems like a bear pit to throw him into for his first competitive game in the best part of 10 months. While the other change I'd make would be McTominay in place for Matic, more mobility and a higher work rate will be needed.

2.) 20 Oct 2020 18:00:58
i did consider both of these and i could go either way on TFM and tuanzebe. I think Tuanzebe is the better player but like you say he doesn't have the match fitness.

I went for matic over mctominany because matic is better at passing the ball and passes it forward more often. I think both these attributes will be important for ball retention and being able to move the ball forwards quickly during transition.

3.) 20 Oct 2020 18:12:46
Everyone going with very defensive options. I would go all out attack with Bruno up front, Rash and Tony on the wing and Pogba as the playmaker. We will concede so let's just try to outscored them, much more fun.

4.) 20 Oct 2020 18:53:34
That’s a good team MancMan.

Tommy K was so good against PSG last time i’d like to see him start but Matic has been rested for tonight.

5.) 20 Oct 2020 19:05:33
So I was wrong about Matic and Pogba.

I’m refreshingly surprised with that starting XI. Whether or not it works remains to be see. But we have a packed defence, plenty of energy in midfield and pace up top.

Let’s do this!

6.) 20 Oct 2020 19:15:05
Grimslives, PSG have Neymar, Mbappe and Di Maria up front, if we go in with an open team and try and outscore them with Rashford, Martial and Bruno we will get slaughtered. Spurs scored 6 past us, PSG could get 10 if we play with an open team.

7.) 20 Oct 2020 19:17:38
I would play back three with Awb
lindelof shaw Scott and Fred just in front then Bruno Pogba Dvb Martial Rashford.




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15 Oct 2020 13:52:56
Didn't Fergie used to be a centre half? Maybe he's going to play?



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10 Oct 2020 11:23:13
Really interesting post prodigal. Quite sad to read. I suppose we all like to imagine that the squad are all best mates and likeable people but that's not how real life works. Shame they can't jointly appreciate their success on the pitch though.



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08 Oct 2020 00:34:19
I'm amazed that decent offers didn't materialise for a keeper of Romero's quality and experience. It might actually work out better for him and the club for others to understand that if they want him they have to make better offers to both parties. Good luck to the guy but business is business and I don't feel too sorry for him in his gilded cage.



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08 Oct 2020 00:16:52
Bravo Cheshire Red, take a bow. I think your two posts in this thread are the best I have read on this site.

My view is that transfer fees have been beyond ridiculous for a while now. This could provide a welcome reset to the market.

I think you're right that Dortmond got greedy and are perhaps now regretting not accepting our final offer which I understand was £90 million? When you consider what you have explained it seems crazy that we offered that much and Dortmond turned us down.

Wallace has listed some of the younger players we have to look forward to so perhaps now is a time for patience with the expectation that it will soon come good for us. There is solace in this.

The problem still remains with the manager though who worries me greatly. Having a manager who can build something that is greater than the sum of its parts is perhaps more valuable than ever and no way is that Solksjaer.



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04 Oct 2020 10:32:47
Ed002, I heard it was a Koala bear and it's mum wasn't very happy about it.




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04 Dec 2020 21:37:18
Oh I wish! Winger gets to byline, whips in a cross, centre forward gambles near post gets ahead of the defender and steers it in or winger stands it up and centre forward meets it with a bullit header.

Proper football, jumpers for goalposts.



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04 Dec 2020 19:02:32
It's a good start. I much prefer standing. Let's hope the trials go well. Done properly there is no reason it can't be safe.



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04 Dec 2020 13:52:46
GDS, no 'hated' from me. I just think Solksjaer is too inexperienced to be manager at a club the size of Man Utd, especially in the mess the club is in.

Moreover, I am fed up of defensively minded managers. It's been 8 years now and although the football under Solksjaer is better than it has been under previous managers, his instincts are too conservative.

Also the obvious lack of improvement of players both individually and as a unit, inappropriate team selection, poor tactics, and the terrible in game management tell me that he is not the man for the job.



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04 Dec 2020 12:42:44
Shappy just to respond to your points:

Whether Fred has been our most in form and instrumental midfielder or not is arguable. My point is that DvB was excellent in the last game and in my view should have started against PSG whether this was in place of Fred or McTominay. Two defensive midfielders was not necessary and was counter productive in a defensive sense because they gave the ball away in dangerous areas because they cannot pass properly.

Going from 3 at the back to 4 at the back is not more attacking; it's an extra defender.

Shappy, tell me honestly; did you not feel that Fred was going to get sent off? I did, the pundits did and it seems like most people on this site did. You can quote all the stats you like about Freds first half yellow cards (and I agree you make a good argument), but sometime you just have to listen to your spidey sense.



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03 Dec 2020 15:59:23
Ah, that will be it then. Thanks for putting me straight.