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17 Jul 2014 12:31:37
Eds, with Gundogan looking like he will return from injury next month, is there any likelyhood of an attempt to bring him in to partner Herrera?

He seems like an ideal partner, clever and a good passer who likes to sit a bit deeper than Herrera, where he could protect the back four when Herrera goes forward.

Thorne

{Ed002's Note - No.}


1.) 17 Jul 2014 20:37:19
Said with such hope-crushing finality ;)

Oh well, thanks for the answer anyway ed.


2.) 17 Jul 2014 20:38:43
I was honestly hoping that our interest in Nigel "Kung fu" de Jong would be higher than it appears to be, first time poster btw guys and oddly I don't have any connections or sources at old Trafford or carrington, don't live next to rooney and I don't look after Nicky butts Nan's cats when she goes to the seaside for the weekend, so everything I say will be opinion based :)


3.) It would be good for us to have a pool of top class box to box midfielders to sign from. At the moment it seems we have had an interest in Enzo Perez (who I thought was very good in the world cup semi&final, ) and of course Vidal.

If we add a few more to that list, we might find prices dropping as their respective clubs realise they don't have the power to hold us to ransom. The possibility of a deal being struck increases the wider we are spread our net.

Gundogen is in that bracket and is a good target for me. U have to wander though will he be the same player with all those injuries he sustained? Its hard to say unless they let us do a medical on him before agreeing a fee.


4.) We just signed Herrera, so I would think a more defensive option as both short term cover and long term replacement for Carrick would be more of a concern than another b2b.


5.) Im not exactly sure, but I think Van Gaal's system accomodates 2 of these sorts of players. We have been trying to sign Vidal afterall, having already signed Herrera.

I think there's a deep playmaker, responsible for closing down in front of the back 4. His job is to be a defensive midfielder when out of possession, and a ball playing midfielder when in possession.
I think Herrera will fill that role.

Then there is a box to box player, who plays a very simple game. One two's always making themselves available for passes, - going up and down the pitch. De Jong was doing that role in the Netherlands team. If we get a world class player in this role, I think their responsability might be upgraded a bit. I think Vidal might have been targeted to play this role.

The third midfielder is an attacking midfielder and I think one of Rooney or Mata will play there. That was the reason we dropped out of the race for Toni Kroos if i'm not mistaken.

The Vidal speculation might have just been fiction, so I may be wrong, but I think we are still in the market for one of these box to box players.


6.) I still wouldn't mind seeing Carvalho coming into our midfield. He looks like a very good option in front of the back 4. Reads the game well and his quick distribution would be ideal for players like Herrera and Mata. The only problem is the reported 37 mil price tag.


7.) Herrera isn't a defensive midfielder though. He's more like a box to box player, and he definitely likes to come forward from central midfield and get involved in attacks. He's definitely also got the energy to get up and down the pitch.

At Bilbao he mainly played as a kind of box-to-box playmaker although he's also spent periods playing further up behind the striker as a number 10, but he's not as good there.


8.) Personally I'm expecting Carrick or a new defensive mid hanging back and moving the ball around, Herrera or Vidal (if we get him) as box-to-box, Mata behind the striker/s


9.) I only know what a poster on here explained about 6 weeks ago with respect to LVG's tactics. You may have seen the post aswell. He followed Dutch football for many years and seemed to know a lot about Van Gaal's system, which was explained in a long post.

When we signed Herrera I assumed he looked like a box to box player too, but after watching him I noticed his 2 main strengths seemed to be creativity and an ability to win possession. Even though he played higher up, his qualities will be wasted if he plays what the post described as a "limited" box to box position, in which the player makes himself available for passes and plays short one two's in triangles. There was also a deeper central midfield position according to the post, that required a creative player to do a lot of running off the ball, and to create when in possession.

Vidal is not a creative player. He dosen't play longer passes, through passes, or dictate tempo like a Xavi/Scholes. If it is true we are interested in Vidal, he would surely have to take the "limited, " box to box position, but would probably be given some freedom to be more expansive, given his ability. I would imagine that would involve him bursting into the box to score goals, and taking long shots when there are opportunties. that's the exact role he is currently playing at Juventus. He will not play as a deep creative player if he arrives.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Herrera rotated between box to box, and deep midfield, if we are not able to sign Vidal, or the likes of Enzo Perez. If one of the 2 come in, Herrera will have to move to the deeper position, or sit on the bench. I would be surprised if we paid 30m, while expecting to sign another player that will put him on the bench.


10.) He's not disciplined enough.

The guy shielding the back four needs to position himself to intercept or block off passes, slow the opponents play and break the rythm and momentum of attacks. Not rush around chasing balls down and closing players down to put them under pressure and force mistakes.

That's what Fletcher used to do, but he wasn't expected to protect the back 4, that was Hargreaves or Carricks job.

I do know the post you are referring to, but I don't see why the number 8 role has to be a "simple" box-to-box role, unless that's the players he has.

He's used more technical or creative players in that sort of role before. In fact I think I even remember him using Ribiery to bring the ball forward out of central midfield on occasion when he was at Bayern


11.) 18 Jul 2014 09:41:20
I think this is a shout to Shappy on the Van Gaal tactics.
Personally I think Carrick was lined up for the holding roll until Strootman could be brought in.whether his injury changes things I don't know?
Personally I would have a 3 of Strootman, Vidal, Harera. would put doubt on 1 or 2 of Rooney/Mata/Kagawa as I don't see them as part of an attacking 3.
That said if Van gaal adopts the 442 diamond of Liverpool then there is scope to fit them in
Interesting summer ahhead


12.) Your right about Strootman Brad. I think LVG rates him highly because he is a perfect fit for the holding role.

Based on the point Shappy was making, the idea is that the holding role in LVG's system is unusal.

If your a holding playmaker, u will have more industrious players in front for protection, and u will not have defensive responsabilities. Italian sides often do this. Pirlo behind De Rossi and Marchisio.

If you are a defensive midfielder, you clear things up at the back, and feed the ball simply to the attacking players.

LVG's use of the holding player is unusual because they are both the playmaker and the defensive midfielder. U can see why he favours Strootman. I expect to see Carrick in the role, because there is no other position for him, not because it suits him.

LVG wants a player like Strootman in the position, who has athletic qualities and the passing game. I believe Herrera will have been signed to play this role. His game is similar to Strootman. Physical, athletic & great passing ability.

Herrera can play box to box if needed, and Strootman has also spent much of his career as a box to box player. Herrera's best position in the system Shappy highlighted, will be the deep midfield role. Herrera is an obvious choice for that position just as Strootman is. It is also consistent with the idea that Vidal has been targeted for the other Midfield role.


13.) I understand the system, it's more or less what I've been hoping we'd start using for the last few years.

I don't see the similarity between Herrera and strootman though. Strootman is a little slower, and has a better range of passing. Herrera is trickier, and likes to use shorter passing, flicks and one-two's as well as technical dribbling to take defenders out of the game and open space. He's also not as physically strong, although he does still yet stuck in.

Think along the lines of a less developed version of Iniesta, but who has the energy and tenacity to get stuck in defensively as well, and to get up and down the pitch like Roy Keane.

We'll have to wait and see, but if he is shoe-horned into the defensive role I will be very, very surprised, as well as dissapointed. The potential link-up of Herrera and Mata is mouth-watering.


14.) Thome, please properly investigate before making comments. It dosent help people who come on the site to get a better idea about players. I incllude myself in that category. I don't make comments just to fit my personal theories. I watch the players and try to understand what their qualities are. I also read other posts like Shappy's, and take the time to understand the points they are making.

Strootman is either as fast, - and is probably faster, than Herrera. Herrera has good stamina and speed, but Strootman is a genuine athlete.

If you want to get an idea of Strootman's capacity to accelerate watch Strootman 2014 videos on youtube.

If you watch some of these videos, you'll also notice the box to box role Strootman features in. This is a player that LVG converted into his holding role player for the Netherlands, -LVG is a big fan of Strootman as we know and viewed him as a key part of his system in the Dutch national team.

Herrera is not the same type of player as Iniesta. That is fairly obvious and it is not down to a difference in quality. Iniesta is an out and out attacking midfielder. Herrera is as defensive minded, as he is attacking minded.

Herrera has changed position a lot in the Athletic team. When he plays higher up, he plays right midfield/wing, of a midfield 3. His role is not an as an attacking midfielder in this position. He services forward players, and wins possession.

It is not disimilar to Ji Sung Park in 2006-9, used as a defensive winger to counter Ronaldo's free role on the opposite wing, - or the right midfield position Gennaro Gattuso (a defensive midfielder) used to play for AC Milan.

If you still don't think Herrera can play deeper, something he actually did many times at Athletic, watch the Europa League game highlights of Herrera vs United, at Old Trafford.

Anyone can see these things by watching videos and highlights on youtube, which i'm sure we all do. Before posting comments such as "Herrera is faster than Strootman, " try to remember we are in the 21st century, and can all learn a lot about players with an internet connection.


15.) YouTube videos aren't a great way to judge a player, they tend only to show the best moments. I expect anyone watching a YouTube highlights video of Nani would think they were looking at one of the world's very best players, but we know that's not true. I'm not judging by those, but I'm not just making stuff up to fit my opinion.

I usually watch mostly dutch and German football, in addition to EPL obviously, but ever since I got excited about Herrera (thanks partly to those misleading YouTube videos) last summer, I've tried to watch his games, because I always thought we'd go back in for him, and I've watched him a little over a dozen times this season, as well as watching older games from the season before. I haven't rewatched our games against them from Europe, but I seem to remember Javi Martinez playing the holding role, not Herrera.

I must admit I haven't watched Strootman this season, but in the Netherlands he always struck me as too slow over distances of 30 yards or more, and I worried he'd be too slow getting back and would be left behind by counter attacks if he came here (obviously not a problem if he takes Carricks role). Yes he gets moving quite quickly, that's not the same. Maybe I'm remembering him as slower than he is though, if so, my mistake.

When I mentioned Iniesta, I meant in the way he is happy receiving the ball in tight space, and having the control and technique to play or bring the ball out past his markers. Obviously Herrera is different in many ways, and yes that includes being very capable defensively (although I would dispute his being as defensively minded as he is attack minded).

I know he is capable of playing a defensive role, but he lacks discipline so he gives away too many fouls and leaves gaps by closing down too aggressively, so it's not his best position and he looks far more comfortable pressing and winning the ball higher up the pitch.

I'm not saying he can't play that role, just that it would be a waste of his attacking talent, and others could do it better.

After we payed a significant price for him, I don't want to see him wasted. Anderson was a bright attacking talent when he came to us, but after a few years of being forced into a defensive role he didn't fit he had lost his confidence, picked up too many injuries, seemed to lose interest, and started turning into the chubby party animal we have today.

I don't want the same to happen to Herrera.


16.) If you watch player highlights from individual games, - that is every touch a player has in the course of a match, you will get a good idea of the type of position the player plays and what their qualities are. There are a dozen or so you can watch on Herrera.

I do not watch highlights showing goals and skills.


 

 

31 Jan 2014 11:54:22
I've been hearing a lot of chatter this morning about a bid being planned for Guarin, nothing concrete though yet.

Would be an improvement if true.

Thorne

1.) Personally all my enthusiasm since the Mata deal has gone. Utd had the chance to really push on but for whatever reason have not done so (unless something out of the ordinary happens). personally not sure Guarin long term is what we need but if it is a swap loan with Nani I will take that all day long.
Maybe try and get Otamendi/Garay in to add some Argentinian steel to the defense and then hope for the best!


2.) Guarin would be at least something/someone!


3.) Not sure he's the answer long term either, but he'd be a real improvement on Cleverly. Good option to play alongside Carrick, and he'd be great as third choice, playing backup to Vidal next season.


 

 

18 Dec 2013 17:30:06
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Sevilla playmaker Ivan Rakitic, who has been linked with a possible January move to Manchester United, Chelsea or Liverpool, expresses frustration with his side's lack of progress. "Such is the nature of our business. I'm in Seville for three years now and in this time many things have changed, " the 25-year-old told Slovakian website Nogomania. "If there is no success, if there are no trophies, frustration grows. Everything has changed."

Ed, do you know of any interest from utd? If so, would he be available in jan and would he be the central playmaker utd need?
Thanks

Thorne

{Ed002's Note - The long term interest in him is from Lazio where he was expected to move in the summer. Personally I do not see him moving in January.}


1.) I remember Rakitic moving to Sevilla for around 4.5 - 5 million a while back, it was around the same time SAF said there was no value in the market. He was still a good player then but more of a poor mans Modric. I'm not convinced he'd be that great for is though for the money being quoted but he is good from set pieces which is something we don't have in abundance either.


2.) Would rather go for Matic to be honest. both are quite pricey


 

 

08 Mar 2013 12:37:15
How many of those who said Rooney would leave still stand by that in the wake of SAF's comment this morning?

Or are you going to tell us he's playing mind games?

Get over it Rooney is still the beating heart of the team just look at the effect he had when he came on against Real.

Thorne

1.) Did you honestly expect him to say anything else.
'He's finished'
'We're desperate to get rid of him'
'Not fit enough'
Would knock millions off his price in one swipe.


2.) He may or may not leave. Do you not remember when SAF said that he wouldn't even sell Madrid a virus, nevermind Ronaldo? Well where is Ronaldo now? Point proven.


3.) I wouldn't expect the manager to say anything different. We have a league title to win.

Sydney!


4.) I also seem to recall a Mr Ferguson saying Beckham wouldn't leave United and that he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus! let's just wait and see what happens come the summer. If he goes he goes the club will go on. If he stays then brilliant!


5.) What effect was that, he missed a sitter from 6 yards. Hernandez would have scored that with his eyes shut.
Was he the heart beat of the team when he came to pure season a stone overweight?
He has shown that he couldn't be professional enough to control his weight let alone the ball!


6.) If you think he's going to come out & say that's it were getting rid of rooney at the end of the season. Than you need to give your head a good shake.


7.) As far as I can recall, Sir Alex never did sell them a virus, just a player who he had already acknowledged would go there sooner or later. he was just trying to get an acceptable price.

Beckham was different due to a major falling out, which clearly hasn't happened here as evident from Rooneys demeanor when they arrived for the Real game.


8.) "Beating Heart beat" How old are you and we obviously were dead on tuesday because he was not playing until the 75 minute.

Shahram


9.) Ronaldo, beckham van nistilrooy all players in there prime when they left united all to madrid


10.) Ye - we got beat and he missed a sitter


11.) What effect?

How about the one where he fired everyone else up, and drove the team on. He does it all the time and that is why I called him the beating heart of the team.

Rooney epitomizes the determination, drive, passion and unyielding will to win which characterizes utd under SAF. It's what has enabled utd to win so many league titles even when our squad looks weaker than our rivals on paper. It was one of the things Keano brought to the team and so does Rooney. He leads by example and makes the team try harder.


12.) Beckham wasn't in his prime, we moved him on as we had Ronaldo coming in to replace him. It was good business as his value would have declined with every year.

As for Ronaldo, he always wanted to play for REal Madrid so had no choice.

Then as good as Van Nistelrooy was, we weren't exactly at our most successful when he was at United


13.) We got beat and fergy has said this in previous years stam keane Rudd v etc


 

 

 

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27 Aug 2021 16:12:28
Anyone else thinking that if CR7 comes home, Pogba could go the other way?

Clears a bunch off the wage bill to free up part of the money for Ronaldo's wages, and should more than cover the transfer fee. Also solves the Pogba contract problem.

Then we can try to shift Pereira and James and/ or Lingard, making room for Neves/ Saul/ Camavinga/ Rice.

Maybe we could even find Cavani a free move back to South America too.

Probably unrealistic, but I could see something like CR7 and Camavinga in, Cavani, Pogba, Pereira and Lingard out. With midfield fixed and CR7 replacing Cavani, I think we would be strong contenders, maybe even favourites for the league, and serious challengers for the CL.

Like I said, it's probably unrealistic, but hard not to get excited and dream big right now.

Thorne

1.) 27 Aug 2021 16:17:22
Not with the time left in the window.


 

 

21 Jun 2021 22:08:47
Hi Ed's, I was wondering whether you could give us any indication of how highly Utd seem to be priorising the signing of a CDM type such as Rice for example?

I believe I'm hardly alone in thinking this is either the most important signing for us or second only to a mobile CB, and I'm wondering whether the club see it as important too, or whether they are prioritising areas like RB and RW and only looking at CDM as an afterthought if at all.

Also, I realise you may not be able to answer this, but do you know how much influence Ole has on which of these signings are prioritised?

Thorne

{Ed002's Note - It is less of a priority than other positions. The coach has input in respect of targets.}


1.) 22 Jun 2021 10:35:09
Thanks Ed, appreciate the response.

Very disappointing, as it suggests that Ole is satisfied with the McFred pairing. McFred was an understandable choice given our current midfield options, but being satisfied to stick with that when we have a chance to add a cdm to balance the midfield is concerning.


2.) 22 Jun 2021 12:54:42
Agree with you Thorne.
Both Fred and McTominay are not special-ist holding midfielders.

What we need is a prime Matic/ Carrick type player who shields the backline.


3.) 22 Jun 2021 14:41:40
It is clear that the manager is happy with the situation. It is how he wants to play. Otherwise he would make a defensive midfielder his priority long ago and we all know our club would try really hard to deliver.


4.) 22 Jun 2021 15:36:21
What's all the obsession with cam.
Ole doesn't play with 1 cdm.
Everybody seems to want something ole doesn't.


5.) 22 Jun 2021 22:21:00
The thing is, until now Ole hasn't had much choice but play McFred, and there have been bigger priorities. I mean, it's not long ago we were regularly playing Andrea's Pereira at CAM. I think we can all agree getting Bruno was a higher priority than balancing the central midfield pairing at the time. Matic was still capable of playing enough games until this season too.

We've now reached a point where we've fixed most of the more urgent problems in the squad and Matic can't play as many games as he used to, so a CDM has become a bigger priority. If Ole doesn't push to get at least one CDM in this window, it means he is genuinely content
with shackling his midfielders this way.

If that's the case then I am really disappointed.

I'm not bothered that he rates even Fred as highly as he seems to, I'm bothered that he can't see how much even Fred (let alone McT, DVB or Pogba) would benefit from playing alongside a proper DM.


6.) 23 Jun 2021 09:37:49
I mean is it Ole's preferred pairing? Do we know this for sure, has he come out and said of all the midfielders in the world he wouldn't swap McFred for any of them?

Or is it a case that he has tried many different pairings, Herrera/ Matic, Herrera/ Pogba, Pogba/ Matic, McTominay/ Pogba, Fred/ Pogba, Fred/ Donny, McTominay/ Donny, Matic/ Donny, McTominay/ Matic.

Yet after trying all of those various combinations it is Fred/ McTominay that has consistently played the best and got the best results?

That doesn't mean Ole wouldn't take an upgrade if one was available, just that statistically McFred is our best midfield.


7.) 23 Jun 2021 12:22:11
Come on, stop it Shappy. None said that the pair are the dream players for Ole. They are very important in the way he plays and see no reason to make a numper 6 a priority. Isn't it obvious? He is almost 3 years here, we know his preferences.


 

 

29 May 2021 22:22:21
Hi Eds, I heard a rumour from a friend that United may have been looking at Koopmeiners of AZ Alkmar to supplement our central midfield, and I was wondering whether you might know whether he has been looked at or not.

I haven't watched a huge amount of Dutch football recently, but he does look like a very capable deep-lying playmaker, and if he has the defensive awareness and positioning to go with it, he could be a great addition. Adding that creativity from a deep position would take some of the burden off Bruno, while he could also free up players like DVB, McTominay or Pogba to get forwards more from alongside him.

Thorne

{Ed002's Note - There are talks ongoing with another club.}


1.) 30 May 2021 13:16:01
Thanks Ed.


 

 

19 Feb 2021 09:52:23
12 minutes isn't much to judge a player on, but I liked the look of what I saw from Amad. He showed a willingness to do the defensive work, and he did it intelligently, watching passing lanes etc.

Nice bit of skill by the touchline to escape from two opponents and scare the third into a clumsy foul.

Looking forward to seeing what he can do given a bit more time.

Thorne

1.) 19 Feb 2021 10:22:45
I have to agree Thorne. He looks a very confident lad and seems to have the pace, energy and skills to take people on and what he did on the touchline with 3 opponents close to him was fantastic.

A very short cameo but I am excited as well to see him given more opportunities and minutes on the pitch.


2.) 19 Feb 2021 14:42:13
When Dan James scored his goal, Diallo had burst all the way forward right to the goal line. He was probably only one shoe size away from nicking the goal off DJ. Encouraging to see that sort of instinct in one of our forwards.


3.) 19 Feb 2021 15:26:28
JohnyKills

It's too early but the signs are really encouraging and if we believe the reports that everyone at the club are really impressed by him and if he could just keep improving and show glimpses of what he is capable given more opportunities then we could soon have a skillful player on the flanks who could get us on the edge of our seats.


 

 

11 May 2019 17:32:42
Really finding it hard to believe that we couldn't manage to keep Herrera. I know he asked for a big contract, but he was worth it, and it will cost us much more to get a replacement anywhere near his quality.

Worse, it comes at a time when we already lack depth in midfield, Matic is slowly declining, and Pogba looks set to leave. Are we really going to bring in 3 first team midfielders this summer? On top of the right winger, a right back.

Thorne

1.) 11 May 2019 18:01:33
Instead of renewing jones and young that money could've gone on Ander and saved 30-50 million in the market on replacing him. Jones could've been replaced internally and young wouldn't have cost as much to replace.


 

 

 

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30 Aug 2021 19:07:20
Why move VDB out? I’d suggest he is the one most likely to benefit from playing alongside a proper DM.

Fred + a DM is just an even more defensive version of McFred. McTominay would benefit from having more freedom to get forward, but not as much as DVB. Pogba would benefit from the freedom, but he doesn’t put in the defensive work and would leave the DM shouldering the entire defensive workload. DVB puts in a shift defensively when needed, but would use the freedom to find space in and around the box to make things happen.

IMO, if Pogba stays, Fred has to be the one to make way for a new DM.

Thorne

 

 

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15 Aug 2021 13:00:57
I wouldn't want him back now either, but seriously, he was the best CM we've had in a long time.

Not quite a true playmaker, but he still had very good passing, excellent close control and composure on the ball, was pretty much immune to pressing, fabulous work rate and determination, an absolute warrior with just the right amount of nasty mixed in.

I agree he came here for money and never truly loved the club, but he was professional and gave everything on the pitch. If Pogba had half the attitude Herrera did he'd be the best player in the world.

Thorne

 

 

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23 Jul 2021 11:54:54
If the rumoured switch to 433 formation is true, or we keep the current formation, sign a DM and give the second cm more freedom to get forward, I think we will see a very different Donny.

Spenno, how was he supposed to show anything when he's brought on with 5 minutes to go?

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14 Jul 2021 14:08:41
Surely the price range of any potential third signing depends on outgoings?

Let's say 70m ish on Sancho and 50m ish on a CB. £120m looks like quite a lot, but if we were to sell, for example: DDG, Lingard, Bailly/ Lindelof, Dalot, Perreira and hopefully Jones, that could easily be 70-100m in sales, maybe even more if we're lucky.

Spending another 50-60m on a CDM type doesn't seem so unrealistic after that. Especially if we then move on Pogba, Fred or Donny.

Thorne

 

 

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14 Jul 2021 13:54:35
Of all the players at the club who aren't regular first choice in their position, Telles is one of the few who I don't understand why we'd let him go easily. Telles is a good player, that's the level we want our backup players to be.

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01 Sep 2021 11:19:07
Why would we let Donny leave to make room for a DM? He's the one who would make the best partner for a proper DM.

Let him go and we'd end up having a good DM and partnering them with Fred!

Thorne

 

 

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31 Aug 2021 21:05:28
Hopefully we'll either get a DM last minute today, or in January, and Ole is holding on to Donny to play alongside them.

Of course this is Utd, so it's just as likely someone thinks he has injury potential and could be a long term replacement for Jones in keeping the physios' skills sharp.

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18 Aug 2021 12:41:09
Yes Shappy, while I'd rather have all 3, I would take someone like Rice and Varane over Sancho and Varane. Maybe even Sancho and Rice, although I think CB was only a hair behind DM in importance.

RW was an important position for us to strengthen, especially with someone like Sancho who can also cover at CAM if Bruno needs a break or whatever, but I think getting a DM to: a) allow a proper alternative to McFred, and b) allow Pogba or Donny to play as a number 8 with more freedom, was more important.

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18 Aug 2021 10:17:59
Fred has always had a habit of getting into good shooting positions fairly often, if he's worked on his finishing from around the edge if the box and a little further out, he could easily add a decent number of goals over the course of the season.

I'd have preferred that he work on his passing though.

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17 Aug 2021 10:24:51
I’d say it was the most important position for us to sign someone this summer.

Starting to doubt we will get a DM in now, but still time if one of our current CMs leave.

Thorne