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03 Jan 2021 10:51:49
Hi Ed002

Appreciate your advice. Below you mentioned we agreed to complete the transfer of Amad Traore by December 31 to allow him to move in January subject to a Work Permit. Ole says he is looking forward to his arrival, yet there are stories in the press that Atalanta want to keep him, even want to just loan him to us for the rest of the season. Is this just noise or is there a change of position?

Red Man

{Ed002's Note - I suspect there is a misunderstanding. Atalanta don't want to loan the player to MU they want to take him back on loan.}


1.) 03 Jan 2021 11:23:46
Thanks Ed002

I would have thought going to all the trouble we have with the work permit/ passport that United would not want to do that.


2.) 03 Jan 2021 12:16:17
Red Man, not sure where you heard about a loan move to us. The deal was all agreed some time ago with only the paperwork left to be dealt with. He's our player now by the look of things but Atlanta want him to stay longer and want him loaned back for the rest of the season.

I am sure he is heading straight into the U23's to assess him further and get him used to the physicality of our league. Probably a loan move to a premier league side down the line for him and Pellistri would suit them both and help them progress their careers.


3.) 03 Jan 2021 13:05:31
Hi Letsplay

The BBC gossip page indicated that Atalanta are keen on loaning Diallo to Manchester United for the rest of the season, it looks like a typo. There have been other reports saying Atalanta wanted to keep him, but as Ed said they want to loan him from us.

Looks like the sale is going through. Personally I think he should come to us and acclimatise, start to work with better players, be ready for next season or if he makes an impact even appearances this season.


4.) 03 Jan 2021 13:27:55
Hi Red Man,

Probably the media outlets doing their typical mixed reports to keep things interesting especially when it is United news.

It is too early yet and we can all assume what's best for him but it's up to the coaching staff and Ole to find the best route for the player. Hopefully Diallo fulfills his potential at United as he does look a very exciting prospect.


5.) 03 Jan 2021 13:40:03
Red man I think it was an error as gasperini had said that Atalanta hoped to loan him back to the end of the season.


6.) 03 Jan 2021 13:45:51
Red Man. I think it’s a little unfair to suggest that our U23 side are ‘better players’ than Atlanta’s first team, no?


7.) 03 Jan 2021 14:07:25
Did redman suggest that? I don't think he did.


8.) 03 Jan 2021 15:09:46
I don't quite understand why Atalanta wants him on a loan, he barely played there. Ed, do you know something?

{Ed002's Note - They don't want their squad weakened and his replacement is not available before the summer.}


9.) 03 Jan 2021 17:07:06
The reports are now saying United want him this month and don’t want to loan him back.


10.) 04 Jan 2021 00:57:51
Surprised Atlanta want him on loan. Is there a reason why they’ve hardly played him? Is it because the transfer was agreed and they didn’t want to risk the deal? Or simply that he’s not at the level?

Also, why is the WP taking so long to complete. should this not have been done earlier so he could arrive at OT on the 1st? Are you only allowed to apply for WPs in a transfer window? I always get the impression we fall asleep in between transfer windows.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained all of this - try searching.}


 

 

15 Dec 2020 06:30:05
Reports this morning that Henderson is not happy and was left vexed by Solskjaer breaking promises to start him in certain home games. Add this to how DvB has been treated and a pattern emerges.

Red Man

1.) 15 Dec 2020 10:08:17
No sh1t that Sherlock isn't surprised to read this.


2.) 15 Dec 2020 11:05:12
I think Ole now only really trusts a few players, and as such they are undroppable. DDG, Maguire, Lindelof, AWB, Fred, Bruno and Rashford are all nailed on to start if fit.

All managers have their favourites, maybe this is part of the reason someone new coming in with fresh eyes might be a good idea.


3.) 15 Dec 2020 11:36:33
The problem is DDG has made and continues to make mistakes. Henderson deserves a run in the team.

I'd imagine a few players will be thinking about what they have to do to get game time, when players keep DDG make mistakes and are continually picked. His mistakes have been be going on for awhile now. It's partly done to the coaching staff getting him to play out with his feet. It is still clear to see that he isn't comfortable doing that.

The zonal marking for set pieces is atrocious. Maguire makes basic mistakes.

I'd like tk see Bailly and Tuanzebe in defence. Then play higher up pitch and dip the two holding midfielders.


4.) 15 Dec 2020 11:41:07
Some of Ole's decisions this season have been questionable.
No matter how many mistakes Maguire and Lindelof make, Tuanzebe is still not getting enough games to cement his place.

He even bigged up Mengi saying he is similar to De Ligt as he can get into our side at a young age. But again, he is not getting chances.

VDB has to play over McT and Pogba. Reasons are obvious.

Ole also stressed on having 5 subs in EPL, yet he used only 1 sub against City in the derby.


5.) 15 Dec 2020 11:41:33
i can understand Henderson's frustration especially as for this back 4 / 5 he is a better fit given how much more vocal and brave he is.

We are gettignto a point where we have more quality options in the squad than we did over the last 5 years. it is easier to manage good players not playing when there is trust in the manager and the team is doing well. Ole needs to up his management game.


6.) 15 Dec 2020 12:07:49
Agree with TRD that Ole is making some questionable decisions on a regular basis.
Henderson coming back to us in a pre Euros year didn't make any sense to me unless he was given assurances around game time which clearly are promises not being kept. Not as though De Gea is producing the world class quality we know he has on any level of consistency. I admire Henderson for coming back and having the confidence to stake his claim for the No.1 spot - but it is being ignored.
Henderson MUST start in all cup games for me regardless whether that's against Tinpot FC or Milan in the Europa League Final.

Van de Beek is a very strange one too. Clearly the lad has bags of talent and we look more of a threat going forward when he plays. How he is not making appearances at least in front of Pogba is a mystery.

Ole's reliance on Fred and McTominay for me says more about his not trusting his defence hence more creative players like VDB are not getting as much of a look-in.

Even then though if we can play Mata at RW on occasion surely VDB can fill that berth too.

We have a mix of defence and attack minded midfielders now but other than Fernandes there is nobody who stands out as a must pick.

We are 3 players short for me, 4 if you include Henderson playing more than De Gea.

The Maguire-Lindelof partnership simply let's too many goals in. A new CB has to be our main priority as strengthening the back will allow us more creative players in midfield. There is no rule that says we can only have Bruno as the creative influence!

Ideally we would swap out Pogba for a completely different player in Saul but one who could offer so much more balance to the team overall. Giving a better platform for both defence and attack.

And finally as much as we harp on about our lack of a RW it is a 25 goal a season centre forward we are crying out to replace the woefully inconsistent Martial with. Appreciate Greenwood will fulfil that role in time but we need our new No.9 now.

We do have some good players at the club and in what is a very open year league wise it would not take too much to get this team into a title challenging position. Ole has to be much braver than he is to do that. Any big name can be sacrificed if they are not performing whether its De Gea, Maguire, Fernandes etc. Ole lacks the balls to do that though I fear.


7.) 15 Dec 2020 13:53:27
On the plus side I'm glad we have players who aren't happy to be out of the side. I would have to question a players mentality and ambition if they are happy to be on our bench and not in the team.

Shows we have a few more players with the right attitude now. While Romero might be a great keeper, does he have the right mentality to be a keeper at a club that should be aiming to win the top honours? He's spent 5 years on the bench and been happy to pick up a cheque and not play during his peak years. Only kicking up recently when the club refuse to sell him after bumping him down to third choice.

While DDG has still made a few mistakes this season, he has on the whole improved on his form from last season. Is that due to Henderson breathing down his neck?

We need competition for places all over the pitch, players on the bench in every position who is arguably good enough to start. They shouldn't be happy to be on the bench, they will need to accept it and work on their game to improve themselves and push for a starting spot.

How much of our decline on the pitch can be put down to a lack of competition for places?


8.) 15 Dec 2020 16:06:11
Very unlike Shappy to kick a player when he 8s down. Romero now. Did he contact you that he is happy like that or do you want a player coming out in the press and creating a storm?


9.) 15 Dec 2020 17:43:33
Mad Hatter. Premier league footballer having to use his feet! Imagine that? The fact that de gea cannot play football, doesn't command his area and doesn't marshall his defense means to me that he isn't a very good goal keeper.

Reaction saves are not enough at the top level. It looks like you are saving your team points whereas a more rounded keeper wouldn't need to make the save in the first place because they would have prevented the danger before it got to that.


10.) 15 Dec 2020 19:00:59
MancMan,

It was never an issue for DDG until OGS took over. The zonal marking for set pieces doesn't help either.

Every player has strengths and weaknesses. When OGS took over DDG was world class. Not he looks bang average. The whole tactical set up isn't working. Players are actually regressing.


11.) 15 Dec 2020 19:34:53
Hatter, I disagree DDG started declining under Jose. The issue I think with DDG is that over the past 8 years there hasn't been another keeper who came close to DDG's shot-stopping ability. He was just hands down the best. However, those world class saves (often a 2 or 3 per game) masked the other weaker areas of his game.

At no point in his career has he commanded his area well, he doesn't communicate much with his defenders, his coming out for crosses has always been poor (a bit of a flapper), while his distribution has never been more than average.

The difference now is that his reactions have started to slow slightly, as such he makes less world class saves and the other weaker areas of his game are becoming more apparent.

We have seen this before, look at Iker Casillias, considered a world class keeper until his form went off a cliff in his early 30's. Almost entirely down to his reactions slowing and a big dip in his shot stopping ability.


12.) 15 Dec 2020 20:39:29
I've posted before I know him and his the family and in regards to henderson the above is rubbish .


13.) 15 Dec 2020 20:42:35
Shappy,

I know DDG isn't the keeper he is once was. Romero should have been given a chance last season to be the clubs number 1.

The main issue is that OGS continues to pick under achieving players. My main concern is that I can ee players like Henderson and VDB leaving before Jones and Rojo do.

I'm fed up of how poor Maguire is.


14.) 15 Dec 2020 21:08:31
He didn't reclined with Zose. With Zose at 17-18 he had of his most successful years with us conceding 17 goals less than we should consede as per expected goals against. Then he went with his national team for the tournament, made mistakes and his confidence was low. Then it was Zoses third season syndrome and we had a toxic atmosphere and we conceded goals with all ways, none was marking decent and the fact that he conceded a lot of goals don't help the confidence. Then Ole asked him to play the ball from the back and things got worst.


15.) 16 Dec 2020 00:29:43
every body else herrera but ole. he thinks fred and mctom are going to take us to the promised land.


16.) 16 Dec 2020 04:33:33
DDG has improved this year due to Henderson. Ddg is still an excellent keeper. Henderson is the future. Sure Henderson will get game time and he needs to keep showing the mentality to play at a big club. He will be alright, don't worry about that.


17.) 16 Dec 2020 12:14:26
Shan, have a look who Romero's agent is, if he wasn't happy his agent would have got him a move.


18.) 16 Dec 2020 14:21:28
Like pogbas agent did? Romero is unhappy moves were blocked this summer. He was treated poorly.
He will move asap but buying clubs need to match our valuation and his massive money. Not many clubs that are interested in him can afford him. That's the situation.
Henderson will be our no 1 soon enough imo. Ddg is still a very good keeper. He is on the best contract of any keeper anywhere in the world. Ole convinced him to stay he has the man he wants. Henderson can wait or force a move its up top him. Henderson imo will be a top keeper but he has achieved very little to date i'm his career. I've not heard him moaning and if he is unhappy he is right to keep it in house and take it up with ole privately.
He seems a veey level headed but ambitious lad he has the world at his feet. United are his club but he may well have to move to play under s different manager. I hope not.


 

 

03 Sep 2020 21:19:17
I read a rumour that United are not going to be held to ransom over Sancho, they will wait a year. The worrying part of the rumour was they were willing to bring in someone on loan for a year whilst the situation is resolved, this may be a message to Dortmund of course. The rumour as to who they are looking for the years loan, is Bale, hence why he was even quoted as appealing to be given a chance to leave. Personally I think that chance should have gone but it's a rumour.

Red Man

1.) 03 Sep 2020 21:42:10
I'm not a fan of Bale, he is clearly a very talented player. Yet his apparent attitude over the past few years has been awful. Refusing to take the medical advice of his club, his childish antics on the sideline, while his refusal to attempt to learn Spanish doesn't sit well. Plus when you factor in his age, his injury record and his wage demands it has Alexis Sanchez written all over it.

Yet, a loan deal might not be the worst idea. With Sancho seemingly unavailable, and with Greenwood pushing to start maybe bringing in a player who isn't a long term option might offer the club some experience in a key position, without blocking Greenwood.

It doesn't have to be Bale, there could be other options. Dembele at Barcelona for example. Both players who considering their cost and their injuries a permanent deal looks like a bad idea. Yet a loan could be worth exploring.


2.) 03 Sep 2020 21:53:47
Theres an update on dortmunds transfer plans on the european pages, situation remains the same as it has been.

No serious buyers for sancho at the moment, united won't pay the huge sums needed to sign him.

Time to move on alternatives i think, but i'm not sure there are any alternatives that really fit the bill as first team starters, might have to resort to cover for greenwood.

I wouldn't go in for bale, madrid created a problem for themselves by giving him a huge contract a few years ago and not letting him go to china last summer. I don't think its in uniteds interest to solve madrid or barcelonas issues.


3.) 03 Sep 2020 22:05:57
Shappy

I suggested Barcelona’s Dembele a few weeks ago. I would be concerned at Douglas Costa. There are rumours that Ole wants this Dayot chap but the transfer committee thinks he is too young. We shall see but deals need to be done.


4.) 03 Sep 2020 22:34:36
I’d love to see Bale for a season. But he isn’t really a suitable Sancho replacement, being LW. So Dembele seems a credible alternative if indeed the club are looking for a credible stopgap. The total Sancho cost at present is pure greed. They’ll be keener to deal as the prospect of him leaving for free draws a season closer. It’s a shame that all of that side has become to frequent these days. Don’t remember much player power in the heyday of Olsen and Strachan tearing down the flanks.

{Ed0666's Note - did strachan ever tear down a flank?


5.) 03 Sep 2020 22:41:46
Im torn on bale. He falls into the category of players i wish had signed for United. But that was some time ago. The ability is there still i don't doubt that but i doubt his drive and commitment to be as good as he can be.
I still think we will sign sancho but i could be wrong. The deal is there to be done and with the sums involved there will be compromises made by all parties imo.


6.) 03 Sep 2020 22:51:31
Dembele or Coman are good options.

Bale on a season loan is not the worst idea I’ve ever heard though until the Sancho desk can be done next year.


7.) 03 Sep 2020 22:52:06
I totally agree with Shappy. Bale seems to be the perfect case now . He allows us to spend more money at other positions and his injury record means that he will rotate with Mason at right wing. And if, and its a big if, he finds his form he will be one of the best in the league. If we can't find a solution with Sancho then Bale on a year loan its a very good option.

{Ed0666's Note - bale is a left winger no?


8.) 04 Sep 2020 00:47:50
I don't think ed666. He is effective at right cutting in and shot. He was a left wing back and left back at Spurs, maybe he can still play there but he isn't left winger. At Real Ronaldo was playing at the left and Bale at the right, although i think he is best suited at a free role behind the striker . I have seen him play there with his national team previous years and he was fantastic, a special player. If he comes i think he will start from right but he will be more centrally most of time.

{Ed0666's Note - okey dokey smoky.


9.) 04 Sep 2020 04:52:09
I wouldn't say Bale is the perfect case, just not an awful option on loan with the caveat that a chunk of his wages are performance related to make sure he is doing his best to be on the pitch.

There are dozens of players I would pick for our RW spot ahead of Bale.

I don't think we need to go for a big name player, I think in an ideal world Sancho would be an excellent signing based on age, ability, skillset with the bonus of being a homegrown player. Yet the reality is there is a huge cost attached to Sancho which might not be able to be surpassed to get the deal over the line. If the club feels that there is a genuine chance of getting the deal done next summer then a short term solution might be the best idea.

Invest in other areas this summer, bring in a loan option for RW. Then go all in for Sancho next summer when hopefully the club doesn't need to bring in quite so many players, and when the Sancho deal might be a little cheaper and more affordable. When all the uncertainty over C.V. has been cleared.

Personally I think depending on how Ole wants to play other RW options should be sought this summer. When I look at our squad, I think a more traditional RW might be a good idea, someone who can hug the touchline and stretch play. AWB is first choice RB, but isn't the most adventurous. I think having a LW like Rashford who will tuck in we could play a LB the bombs forward on the overlap and have a asymmetrical attack with the RB staying deeper and attacking width coming from the RW on the right.

If the club wanted to do that then the ideal candidate would be Adama Traore, although he would cost upward of 70m, maybe a better alternative could be Ismailia Sarr who could be available for half that amount and is maybe a year or so behind in his development compared to Traore, but has just as high a ceiling.

It all depends on what the club is looking for from a RW and whether the club feels that next summer is the best time to get Sancho if he is considered that highly by the club. Ultimately what we really need is a top class Sporting director who can make these calls and create an overarching vision for the club over a medium to long term.


10.) 04 Sep 2020 08:39:15
We need a right winger, why are we even discussing Bale?


11.) 04 Sep 2020 08:39:59
But are the golf courses in Manchester good enough to attract Bale?


12.) 04 Sep 2020 09:35:53
If Sancho is unobtainable my preferance would be going for Ocampos, thought he did a decent job against us.


13.) 04 Sep 2020 09:55:26
Dozens Shappy? :p
Can you list 24 players you would honestly rather have than Bale at RW?


14.) 04 Sep 2020 10:27:59
I don't blame Bale tbh, Zidane hardly been treating him fairly either, I'd sit on £600k a week if being benched or left out all the time too.
Not many can afford him or those that can do they need him, takes both parties to terminate a contract so what's Bale to do, sure he would play if treated fairly in the first place but way past that now.


15.) 04 Sep 2020 10:49:54
Personally I said weeks ago, that if we can’t deal with Dortmund and Sancho, I would look at Ousmane Dembele.


16.) 04 Sep 2020 10:59:26
I do like Dembele but he would seem to be one of the younger players Koeman might want to hang onto. And I think Messi will stay for a year and get his free transfer at the end.


17.) 04 Sep 2020 11:12:54
Did barcelona not say dembele is not for sale?
Only managed 5 league games last season has had a operation on his hamstring, be interesting to see if he can get past his injury issues. Bad injury for such a quick player.

{Ed002's Note - I would ignore such statements.}


18.) 04 Sep 2020 12:06:33
Jred

Barca have spent mountains of cash, such as on Dembele and Coutinho plus been paying Messi a very large salary.

I suspect Dembele may be someone they can realise cash on to help rebuild and I would be surprised if it was anywhere near the mountain of cash Sancho will require. I may be wrong but think Fati is the one they really want to keep.


19.) 04 Sep 2020 12:37:30
Redman
He also cost mega money and managed 5 league games last season .
Seriously torn hamstring for such a quick player, it will be interesting to see how he returns .


20.) 04 Sep 2020 13:10:54
Jred

He did cost mega money, as you put it and if they sell there will be a big loss on him.

Giggs had terrible hamstring issues but we found a way to resolve it, I think with Yoga. That’s why they have medicals.


21.) 04 Sep 2020 13:13:09
Spenno, I really don't want us to sign Bale permanently. I would just about accept a loan deal if half of his wages were as a bonus for making the match day squad. He has a terrible injury record, and has shown very little drive to play football over the past couple of seasons.

For that reason if we were looking to sign a player permanently Bale would be so far down the list there would be dozen's of players I'd choose ahead of him.

Sancho, Buendia, David Neres, Brooks, Tsygankov, Ismailia Sarr, Moussa Diaby, Kulusevski, Leon Bailey, Mahrez, Salah, Bernardo Silva, Ferran Torres, Chiesa, Gnabry, Adama Traore, Mbappe, Bergwijn, Stengs, Tete, Ziyech, Pulisic, Willian, Thorgan Hazard, Bernardeschi, Douglas Costa, Dybala, Lo Celso, Lucas Moura, Justin Klivert, Zaha, Richarlison, Odegaard, Lozano, Raphinha, Under, Zaniolo, Chukwueze, Hudson-Odoi, Dembele, Trincao, Fati, Bryan Mbeumo, Ihatteren and Messi.

All players who can play RW who I'd want more than Bale, a lot of them just won't be available such as Mbappe for example. Some are very young and probably aren't ready for the EPL such as Ihatteren. While others are good solid players without being anything special such as Lucas Moura.

All however I feel would be better signings than Bale.


22.) 04 Sep 2020 13:29:21
Redman
Owen would be a better example similar injury as opposed to giggs persistent injuries .
I like dembele, great to watch but there will be question marks about his latest injuries.


23.) 04 Sep 2020 13:29:21
Redman
Owen would be a better example similar injury as opposed to giggs persistent injuries .
I like dembele, great to watch but there will be question marks about his latest injuries.


24.) 04 Sep 2020 14:16:06
Shappy I was assuming they would all be realistic and obtainable alternatives, think only a handful of those would be. But I get the point re: Bale.


25.) 04 Sep 2020 14:57:22
Bale doesn't even like playing football. He gets £600k a week to play his preferred game of golf in the sun. Why would he leave the golf course and come to rainy Manchester?


26.) 04 Sep 2020 14:57:31
Spenno, conservatively I think around 27 of them could be realistically obtainable.


27.) 04 Sep 2020 15:11:42
Thank god for Google, hey Shappy.
Complete bolloxology again.


28.) 04 Sep 2020 21:43:47
Betty, I don't need Google, I'm a full time student so I have plenty of time on my hands to watch plenty of football.

The thing with Bale is just about any player is better than him as they actually want to play football. His injury record is atrocious, his game relies on explosive speed, which is causing his injuries. He expects to earn 600k per week and only wants to play golf.


29.) 04 Sep 2020 23:17:26
Why do people feel sancho will be cheaper in a years time, it's a genuine question .
I've always rated bale but that ship surely has sailed . I'd have liked him 3 year ago not now . He seems Madrids answer to sanchez, large wages no takers if a fee is involved or he duznt have a rethink on wages but if you were him would you.


30.) 05 Sep 2020 08:15:11
Slate it's not about him being cheaper in a year's time. Although I vaguely remember someone saying something about agent fees might becoming under some kind of legislation for next year which might bring them down. But that's neither here or there in the grand scheme of things.

The issue isn't spending that amount of money, it's spending that amount of money while there is so much uncertainty around football currently due to the events of this year.

No one knows when fans can come back to stadiums, the financial hits of this year haven't been fully felt yet and how that knocks on to next year. What if there is another stoppage in sport? How will what has happened effect sponsorship deals moving forward. While club's are concerned about image, spending 120m on a player while several million people have lost their job and the country has gone in to a deep recession, can reflect negatively on the club. Speaking of recession, the Glazers took over the club in 2005, then the 2008 global recession happened which meant the club had to borrow further, along with the additional interest increased the debt by around 300m and meant that 12 years later the debt still hasn't been paid off. So the club has been stung by global recessions in the past.

Until there is more certainty sanctioning such a large spend in one player isn't something the club can do out of hand. Due diligence needs to be done, along with making sure the deal is as good as possible for the club in terms of bringing the fee down and spreading the the cost.


31.) 05 Sep 2020 10:39:44
Wouldn't touch Dembele personally.


32.) 05 Sep 2020 17:15:23
I'm guessing then shappy that if the 120 million you quote was spent on say 4 other players youd be just as against it what with the financial uncertainty and people losing jobs and other things you mention otherwise your simply saying youd spend it differently .


33.) 05 Sep 2020 18:10:43
Slate, I'm not saying I'm against the club spending 120m or 200m. If the club has it and can afford it then fine.

What I'm saying is there is a concern about spending so much money on one player.

Like I've said, I would be happy if we get Sancho, he looks one hell of a player. Yet I would have a concern if the club were to put all their eggs into one basket. If Sancho was our only summer signing I'd have concerns. However, we have signed DvdB already. If Donny and Sancho were our only two summer signings then fine. However, I'd have concern over our defence, I think we could do with a couple of quality signings in defence.


 

 

31 May 2020 15:03:20
Saul Niguez has apparently said he will announce his new club in 3 days. Will be interesting to see where that is.

Red Man

1.) 31 May 2020 15:15:26
He looks City bound, i think he'll fit in any Pep side.


2.) 31 May 2020 15:56:54
Im not sure how reliable that teller is redman. hope your well.
If he is announcing it in 3 days then its been kept very quiet wherever he is going.
My guess would be city although i really hope its us. He is one of the top midfielders in Europe imo. If pogba where to go saul can replace most of his qualities and add more.
Saul and sancho and ighalo in this window would be the stuff of dreams.
Maybe get a player in return for pogba that could add depth.
Grealish is another target according to ed002 and the club are keen on him and Bellingham so saul is probably less likely.


3.) 31 May 2020 16:43:56
Hi Ken

I am well thanks, but not everyone in my family is, but we shall see on that. Sat drinking vino in the garden.

Someone said this was similar to what Griezmann did. It seems strange announcing it that way.

It would be interesting to see Ed02’s view on Saul and where he is going or if he is at all?


4.) 31 May 2020 17:34:47
It's his new e-Sports team.


5.) 31 May 2020 17:41:21
Fabrizio Romano has said this has nothing to do with a transfer.

Which seems to make sense. Saul has always appeared pretty commited to Atletico, at least publicly. I can't imagine he would announce himself leaving before the season is finished.

I'm expecting some sort of sponsorship or the other to be announced.


6.) 31 May 2020 17:47:50
Saul is a top class player and would fit in well in pretty much any side. If it was United he is due to sign for, that would surely signal the club are confident that Pogba will leave this summer? Even though the club appear to be dicking about in letting him leave.


7.) 31 May 2020 21:04:47
When do we ever announce a signing this early?

It will be a sponsor.


8.) 31 May 2020 22:48:25
Following United on twitter Orr instagram now apparently 👀👀 that 100% means were nailed on to sign him 😂😂😂.


9.) 01 Jun 2020 09:35:03
People will grab hold of anything, fair play to him for playing everybody like this and getting attention on himself, madness what people believe.


10.) 01 Jun 2020 10:02:17
I am sure the Atletico fans are really pleased with the circus he's created around him. Straight away i have been put off him. Sounds like he's feeling sorry for himself and is suffering from lack of attention due to lockdown bless him.


11.) 01 Jun 2020 15:38:11
Nothing official from athletico madrid or from any other club. so is take it with a massive pinch of salt.
Im sure any club sending that sort of money will want to maximise the coverage and to their unveiling.
Sounds like a load of BS to me.
Him and sancho are the dream signings this summer. Along with ighalo they would breath new life into this team. With maybe another player coming in to boost the squad in any deal for pogba. The likes of raibot would increase competition.


 

 

18 Oct 2019 07:02:23
Interesting seeing photos of Pogba and Zidane meet in Dubai and apparently chat for 10 mins, a coincidence meeting on the beach.

Red Man

1.) 18 Oct 2019 07:34:54
I couldn't care less. Le Sulk can move to RM. I doubt we would notice he had left.


2.) 18 Oct 2019 08:54:50
We need quality but we also need 100% commitment from everyone. The reason we are in this mess is the lack of desire and pride for the shirt. Pogbas a good player but doesn't have the mentality we need. Time to go.


3.) 18 Oct 2019 12:24:27
Yh i agree if our new recruitment plan under ole is to bring in players with limited technical ability and do their best work off the ball but with more passion and work rate then pogba doesn't really fit in.


4.) 18 Oct 2019 14:04:23
I like to try and be more realistic in what I expect from footballers. I don't expect them to have an undying love and passion for the club, that's the fans job.
If they do then that's a bonus.

What I expect is for a footballer to be professional, as that is what they are, professionals.

I expect them to work hard, look to develop their skills and be committed to the team. They don't need to love the club.

But they need to respect their position, they need to respect their team mates and they need to respect their manager and coaches.

Without seeing how Pogba is in training it is hard to say if he is showing that. Yet his on field performances are often inconsistent at best which suggests he isn't working as hard as he should be. He has all the talent to be a top player, but does he have the drive and application?

If he wants to be elsewhere, then fine. I won't hold a grudge, but he needs to being working hard for his team mates or eventually they will turn against him.

I think Ed002 was right on the money again with Pogba, his career belongs in Spain or back in Italy. Yet with Juventus having 7 midfielders on the books (Ramesey, Pjanic, Khedira, Can, Raboit, Matuidi and Bentancur) I don't see a place for him unless several leave. Real Madrid's interest seems to stem from Zidane, who himself might not be there all that much longer with Jose apparently a possible replacement. His options might be growing thin. With Barcelona having recently signed Frenkie De Jong and Arthur, they are unlikely to look to spend the 150m+ it would take to bring him in, plus they have wage limitations unless they can shift one or two big earners. Ultimately PSG might be the best possible escape route for him. With both Real Madrid and Barcelona circling for Mbappe and Neymar respectively PSG might have some funds to reinvest and they have shown an appetite to try and bring in some of the best French players in the world.

So, I feel PSG might be the place he ends up next, either that or he will sign a new increased long term deal with us.


5.) 18 Oct 2019 14:34:03
you can count on one hand the number of top performances pogba has produced for us. you can say its because of the talent around him but i don't think that's totally accurate. Pogba has immense talent, however there are games where he doesn't even do the simple things well (pass to a team mate, control the ball, track a runner) . like the above post i don't expect him to die for the shirt but I expect him to put a shift in. Our problem is that our players are either short on talent, high on workrate or high on talent and short on effort.

This may all be a result of him being demoralised and wanting to leave, thus affecting his performances. whatever the reason a move away may be best for all parties.


6.) 18 Oct 2019 20:23:51
The reality is Pobga has no support around him, literally nothing. We play mostly rubbish football, I'm not shocked he doesn't enjoy himself. We have 4 average midfielders that create nothing/ do anything to support him. Pobga, as he has shown with France and Juve, with quality players around him, he is also a quality player. We are a team devoid of forward talent, quality or movement, or tactical knowledge form the sideline.

I implore anyone to play midfield in a team like this and excel as a creative player. It just doesn't happen at the highest level. Yeah he has rubbish games, yeah his good ones are not frequent enough but he is still the only one of those midfielders that comes close to being on an high level (couldn't consider him world class or elite) .


7.) 18 Oct 2019 20:33:01
That's the thing MrGoodKat, he has played better at Juventus and with France. Yet, he has been just as inconsistent with both his previous club and his national side.


8.) 18 Oct 2019 20:58:24
I agree, he goes missing - but he is still clearly the best midfielder we have, and the sad thing is, it's by a long way. It's good to see McTominay play for the shirt but lacks any real quality (in terms of what we expect a Man Utd player to be), Matic lacks mobility and any real influence on the game and Fred lacks everything technical about a footballer.

I disagree with the "Pogba doesn't track back etc" complaints. What I really want from him is to create something, get on the ball, run forward. Play to strengths and not square pegs round holes situation. I want United to but some players that have a dedicated position in the front 4. To be able to say, with confidence that this is the best player to play Striker or Right Wing or Attacking Mid.


9.) 19 Oct 2019 07:56:16
That's the annoying thing with Pogba, he isn't just our most talented midfielder by a long way. He has more talent than 95% of all midfielders anywhere.

He does track back, but he is even more inconsistent with his defensive work than he is with his more expansive and creative work. My issue is even when he does track back he doesn't do so with any purpose. He jogs back and never looks like he is going to attempt to put a tackle or a block in.

The fact that over his time at United he averages 0.8 tackles per game shows his lack of desire to do the dirty work.

To be honest I'm not too bothered about that. Not all midfielders need to be crunching in tackles. What disappoints me with Pogba is that he at 27 is still so inconsistent with the parts of the game he does enjoy. His passing, shooting and chance creation some games is world class, while woeful in others.

He reminds me a bit of Nani, a player on his day is unplayable and will win you games on his own. However, "his day" might only be one game a month, in the others he is distinctly average.


 

 

 

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19 Apr 2021 08:23:09
I expect there will be a few who declare their love for United is over because of the Super league, I won't be one of them, I will take a calmer view when we really see what it means. The club has embarrassed themselves a few times before and keep doing. Right now this feels a bit like the announcement of Kerry Packer for those that remember cricket in the 70's. it ended up revolutionising the game which had become stale. Has football become stale, a bit, yes.

Thing for me is how those who on here and elsewhere have defended the Glazers, telling us they were investing in the club, whilst they financially weakened the club, will now scream loudly about the injustice of chasing more money. Maybe if they hadn't chosen to ignore how the Glazers bought the club, racked up debts, then they might have thought twice before screaming. The loudest voices who support Utd in the media like Neville have hardly been vociferous about the owners, yet now scream greed. Ole himself talked about the owners investing in the club when they haven't put one single cent of their own money in. Now it all comes home to roost.

Matt Busby was a pioneer, took us in the European Cup when the FA were dead against it. In fact Munich happened when United were trying to get back from a European fixture and the FA insisted they could not put back the next league fixture. Everyone is up in arms right now but change happens and the experience says wait and see before screaming. What rankles me is this is about greed not to better football as Busby did in the 50's, yet too many fans, pundits and those in the game turned a blind eye to the greed and money drivers of existing owners.

Red Man

1.) 19 Apr 2021 08:41:24
Completely agree, if you wanted football clubs to remain community organisations, rules should have been put in place to ringfence them as institutions that must have some level of community ownership whether that's a members scheme or germamys 50+1 rule.

The idea you could leave the safeguarding of the game to sheikh mansour, malcolm glazer and family, kroenke, fsg and abrahamovic is laughable.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 09:01:52
Spot on redman.
I am very interested to see what transpires.
Radical change is needed. What that looks like is still to be determined. English football is not sustainable in its current format. Clubs have gone bust many more will. Same as many local green grocers. The people moaning about losing their local green grocers have been waking past it for years to get to the shop that offers more value for their pound. Then when the green grocer or local store closes them those same people that have been waking past the shop in search of better value blame the greedy fat cats.


3.) 19 Apr 2021 09:18:16
Gary nev must have been gutted picking up his big wages while clubs went out if business. He must have been disgusted when as a player he earnt so much he must be disgusted earning more as a pundit then most championship players.
Its the greedy fat cats that made Gary a fat cat.
Double standards and very short memories.
We lauded busby for having the foresight to bring us into Europe and rightly so.
Times have changed the proposal is far from ideal at the moment but I hope they find a way to make this work that is better than the existing proposal.


 

 

12 Apr 2021 08:15:08
Whilst we are rightly lauding Cavani, Pogba had a good game in a better position for him further forward on the left. It is a far better position for him to use his creativity and not get caught deeper. Good move by Ole to do that, hopefully more than a one off this season.

Red Man

1.) 12 Apr 2021 08:57:18
I thought it odd initially that we had 4 central midfield players on the pitch, but having more creativity is exactly what we've needed on many occasions and this team manages it quite well without sacrificing our defensive stability.

It's effectively removing a useless forward (Martiall) and replacing him with a midfielder to we can have 2 dms and 2 creatives.

I like it a lot.


2.) 12 Apr 2021 10:49:06
Yep Pogba was class yesterday, picked up the ball in between the lines and allowed us to keep the ball in the final third and put pressure on spurs. Also planted hojberg on his backside for the third goal which was pleasing to see.

Shame the first goal got ruled as his assist was quality.

People say they want to see him grab games by the scruff of the neck, well he clearly did that in the second half.

Thought wan bissaka has a good game going forwards as well, mourinho clearly targeted him by letting have so much time and space on the ball but he moved it well and at least was a threat on that right hand side.


3.) 12 Apr 2021 11:24:24
I thought everybody played well on the day except for fred but he did score.


4.) 12 Apr 2021 12:03:39
In Serie A, with its slower pace I think Pogba can get away with playing deeper in a double pivot.

Like wise for France in the much slower and significant drop in quality that you see in international football.

Yet in the EPL where ever mistake can and often is punished. Where you lose the ball and that triggers a quick counter, playing in the pivot with his variable work rate and poor defensive work he is a liability.

In the EPL he needs to be played further forward with less defensive responsibility. Either on the wing, which is something he can comfortably do with his pace and dribbling ability, or maybe in the inside channel on the left in a 4222.


 

 

09 Apr 2021 08:18:08
I am pleased we won, but last night was one of the worst, most boring games I think I have watched since Sexton was manager. I believe Ole has been manager 5 games less than Mourinho, yet put that performance out last night, something Mourinho was utterly destroyed on here for. Lame and cautious, I nearly fell asleep during the game, something I have never done, I even considered switching off it was that bad, maybe I need to drink gallons of alcohol to watch an Ole team.

I also understand that Ole discussed tactics for how to beat Grenada with the Molde manager.

Is this progress? Really.

Red Man

{Ed077's Note - Well at least we were relatively solid defensively and Granada didnt create that many clear cut chances, and neither did we. (If what I said is incorrect then I must have dozed off lol)}


1.) 09 Apr 2021 08:44:39
This match was reminiscent to LVG days. Just awful football.
Even some of the hardcore United fans would have fell asleep.

Only positive is the 2 goal cushion which means hopefully Rashford and Bruno can be rested for the return leg.

I still don't see a vision from our coaching team. What are they doing in the training ground?


2.) 09 Apr 2021 08:49:14
Well Red Man you are getting on in years now, random bouts of tiredness isn't unusual at your age.

I was also recently told some pearls of wisdom from a family friend in his 60's.

He said when you get to his age, you should never pass a toilet and never trust a fart😂

The joys of getting old eh? 🤣.


3.) 09 Apr 2021 08:53:44
Red Man,

Just a typical Utd performance. This is the new Utd and how they play.

It is difficult to watch Utd play these days.

Maybe ext season will be different, or the one after that.


4.) 09 Apr 2021 09:02:22
I think Utd are in for a bit of a wake-up call in the semi final assuming they get there. They got hands-down the easiest tie this time but there won't be any hiding from now.


5.) 09 Apr 2021 09:47:24
It's a typical solid away performance in Europe.
Clean sheet away goals don't over exert yourself at this stage.
I think people like to look for negatives.


6.) 09 Apr 2021 11:02:05
Hey red man,
I'm concerned that this team is actually causing you distress at this point. Check out celebrity bake off or 90 day fiance on TLC, they're great and have almost no Ole.


7.) 09 Apr 2021 11:35:49
@Remi
🤣🤣🤣.


8.) 09 Apr 2021 11:36:40
We did what we needed to do last night, without getting out of second gear. There was no rhythm in the game- partly down to the ref imo.

I remember plenty of dreadful performances away from home in Europe under SAF- its the result that matters in cup/ knockout football, not the performance.


 

 

07 Apr 2021 08:20:38
Bruno Fernandes asked what would constitute success? "Trophies. We can't think of anything else at this club. United is made for trophies and the whole mood is around that. "

I thought trophies were an ego trip and not seen as vital to define our wonderful progress by the great leader. Bruno better watch out with that attitude.

Red Man

1.) 07 Apr 2021 10:52:54
I'd imagine what a player constitutes success and what a manager is told by his board may well be different things entirely.

Either that or the things a manager says in a press conference might not be entirely truthful, who knows.


2.) 07 Apr 2021 12:20:48
Whilst I don't totally believe the comments by OGS that trophy's do not matter there is a clear distinction between being a player and being a manager. I want and expect my players to only care about winning now, whether that is the game they are playing or the tournament they are in. A manager needs to have a wider plan and appreciate that it might take a few years of planning to get to the trophy winning stage and development and progress along the way can be seen as success.
However, i don't actually believe that OGS does not want to win trophys rather that he is a diplomat and states the jouney that we are on.
Fans will and always should demand success and trophys.


3.) 07 Apr 2021 13:11:35
After the carabao semi final defeat to City Ole was upbeat "we played better in this semi final defeat than we did in last year's semi final defeat" while Bruno came out and said it wasn't good enough.

I wrote at the time that our best player is more ambitious than our manager then we have a serious problem. It's only a matter of time before Bruno hits the road. No player is bigger than the club but I believe Bruno is more important to our future than Ole is.

The sheer nonsense the man has come out with since he joined is unparalleled. But it works. Fans regurgitate his nonsense. United D. N. A, fast flowing football and now trophies are only for your ego. bull.

We will finish in the top 4, he has met the minimum requirements to keep his job, and all in all its been a difficult season so him and the team have done well.

But if he thinks he can stay in the job eeking top 4 finishes and not winning trophies, he'll be gone shortly after the fans return.

Will he have the ability to flick the switch and start seriously challenging for major honours?


4.) 07 Apr 2021 13:19:39
Shappy that's baloney. The board are going to be happy with top 4, get some Champions League money, don't lose any sponsors. What they deem acceptable should not be what the manager and players find acceptable.

Ole played professional football and won many trophies. Has he no pride? No ambition? I'm sure when he sits down with players to talk them into joining he doesn't say "our goal is to finish top 4 and get the Glazers a nice dividend" (maybe that's why many players have turned us down)

The be all and end all at the top of any sport is trophies. We have a manager who doesn't think trophies are an important way to gauge success.


5.) 07 Apr 2021 13:40:53
Mumbles, or we have a manager who won't put public pressure on a group of players he knows very well to win trophies that the squad might not be capable of doing.

Last season when we made it to Semi-finals he said something along the lines that semi-finals and finals are what this club are all about, that we should be winning them.

In those finals last season the players buckled under the pressure and just didn't turn up.

This year he said something different, maybe he has changed his mind, or maybe he is attempting to learn from last season's mistakes and is using the press conference to ease pressure and expectations on the players rather than raise them.

Ultimately without being a fly on the wall or in Ole's head none of us will know his actual motivations for what he says to the press.

We also don't know what he is saying privately to the players either.

I've learned to just take everything any manager says to the press with a huge pinch of salt. It's nothing more than a quote gathering exercise to sell papers and get clicks. There is nothing in the rules to say the managers have to be truthful.


6.) 07 Apr 2021 14:08:30
Or he just didn't delivered so he said what is best for him: don't judge me from the trophies but the progress at the league.
If he was 7th in the league and won 3 trophies then he would say again what it suits him: In this club only trophies matter and we delivered and i am a winner etc.
Ole is a seller. What I don't understand is people keen to buy.


7.) 07 Apr 2021 14:38:54
Shappy, Jose Mourinho won 2 trophies with a weaker squad.
Ole is just making excuses for his failures.

Nothing beats winning a trophy for both the players and fans.


8.) 07 Apr 2021 15:39:17
Shappy I understand your points, but we are supposed to have a manager who knows the club inside out. He doesn't need to ramp up the pressure but he does need to show respect to the fans.

He played under Sir Alex who after winning major trophies, let the players celebrate and then it was back to business. Players said he could sniff out who hadn't the drive to go again.

He doesn't need to say "We need to wi X, Y and Z" but he shouldn't be coming out saying trophies are for ego's. It's an absolutely ludicrous thing to say.


9.) 07 Apr 2021 16:34:42
Shappy, apologies but you made me laugh with what i assume is your serious post. Whatever Ole has said from last year's SF defeats to this year clearly is like most of your posts, pure bolloxology or Shappoxology. Last year SF defeats have turned to group stage and QF exits haven't they? So surely the clown has no idea on how to motivate his players for big games and essentially trophies.


10.) 07 Apr 2021 16:46:05
Mumbles, I agree that it was a naïve thing to say, Ole does have a habit of saying things that come across like they are lacking context or just plain badly.

I suppose its a difficult thing to prepare for. You can do you coaching badges, you can spend time with players. All the aspects of coaching are things you pick and up and specifically get taught on the path to your qualification. Experience coaching players will enhance your ability and allow you to grow as a coach/ manager.

But who teaches you how to handle a packed room full of journalist, who teaches you how to handle a room full of people who are trying to trip you up for a quote. Backing you into corners, dragging up past quotes out of context with the intent of giving you a bad options to get that quote.

We know the journalists around United are like rabid dogs desperate for that big story. That isn't something you can prepare for. It certainly isn't something you are trained for.


11.) 07 Apr 2021 17:02:43
United Addict, A great quote from GoT was "everything a man says before the but is horse rubbish", which is this case seems to ring true as you go on to name calling.

Your post did make me laugh out loud, clearly I have you rattled.

So what is it I said that has you so triggered?


12.) 07 Apr 2021 17:14:54
Trigger and rattled? Haha bloody ha. Your posts on how great the clown is are my daily dose of comedy. Neither am i rattled nor is there anything in your post that would trigger me mate. The only name calling i guess that actually "triggered" you was CLOWN. Nothing your beloved has done yet has changed my mind on it. You are a fan of Ole and i respect that, I am not, simple.

You and i should correspond more, we both make each other laugh.


13.) 07 Apr 2021 17:56:15
Shappy

“we have a manager who won't put public pressure on a group of players he knows very well to win trophies that the squad might not be capable of doing. ” “ those finals last season the players buckled under the pressure and just didn't turn up. ””This year he said something different, maybe he has changed his mind, or maybe he is attempting to learn from last season's mistakes and is using the press conference to ease pressure and expectations on the players rather than raise them. ”

Really? the squad Mourinho had won two trophies, LVG one, our club has a history of winning trophies, even in adversity. 10 years after Munich we won the European cup, in 77 we won against the odds. What utter nonsense. Playing for Manchester United brings pressure.
Is Ole trying to relieve the pressure on himself, lower targets and expectation on himself.

Leadership is setting aspirations, setting a dream, taking people, your team with you on the journey. Leadership 101, yet Ole is amply demonstrating he is no leader. Far from it.


14.) 07 Apr 2021 18:47:02
United Addict, your not trigger but feel the need to reply within minutes of it being posted.

It's funny how people keep trying to paint me as the great Ole defender, all I have ever said is give him a chance, and attempted to put some context or a different perspective when everyone throws their toys out the pram and demands the managers head every time we draw or lose a game.

I've repeatedly said I don't think he has what it takes long term, and I stand by my opinion that very little will change when Ole is sacked, just as very little changed when Moyes was sacked, or when LvG was sacked or Mourinho.

Name calling doesn't "trigger" me, be that name calling of me or of other people. All it does it show up the person calling the names as lacking respect and integrity.

If you want to act like a 6 year-old in the playground saying silly names in an attempt to degrade someone who has given far more and achieved far more for the club you love then who really looks silly from that?


 

 

01 Apr 2021 13:57:27
It's April 1st every day with a rich history of quotes. I saw this one this morning and thought it was an April fool. From December 19 Ole describing Rashford, Martial and James as on a par with Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez. " I see this attack as being quite similar to the one we had with Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney and Carlos Tevez, with the interchanging of positions and the fast, flowing football. "

It's not an April fool.

Red Man

1.) 01 Apr 2021 14:09:37
Its closer to Danny Welbeck, Federico Macheda and Bebe than it is to Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez.


2.) 01 Apr 2021 19:44:34
Ole's mind games.


3.) 01 Apr 2021 20:09:35
Lol Kurtis.


 

 

 

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13 Mar 2021 10:48:51
Romero was one of the best back up goalkeepers around and seemed happy in the role. The decision to retain DDG, then bring back Henderson was a crazy one. Those had to be managerial decisions, but made no sense, then we should have been fair to Romero yet were very poor. I have to wonder how other pro footballers feel when they hear about Romero’s treatment. We should have sold DDG several years ago yet gave him a whopping new contract, madness.

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10 Jan 2021 14:06:40
When you talk about a planned path to the first team, for the youth to have milestones, what about right back? We had Dalot, shipped him out, bought AWB who doesn’t attack in the way the manager wishes to play. We have Laird, Williams, Tuanzebe, TFM, Lindelof all who can play RB, so naturally we are looking to buy another RB.

In the summer the club brought in a young RB from Barca, Mark Jurado, too young for the first team, just yet. So what is the plan for him? Don’t worry about us having 5 RB and buying another, we will sell you on in 3 years. We can’t guarantee he is good enough but what will be the path for him?

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03 Jan 2021 17:07:06
The reports are now saying United want him this month and don’t want to loan him back.

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03 Jan 2021 13:05:31
Hi Letsplay

The BBC gossip page indicated that Atalanta are keen on loaning Diallo to Manchester United for the rest of the season, it looks like a typo. There have been other reports saying Atalanta wanted to keep him, but as Ed said they want to loan him from us.

Looks like the sale is going through. Personally I think he should come to us and acclimatise, start to work with better players, be ready for next season or if he makes an impact even appearances this season.

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Thanks Ed002

I would have thought going to all the trouble we have with the work permit/ passport that United would not want to do that.

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18 Apr 2021 20:28:46
Just my reading of the situation. We will see if there is going to be a European super league, however, it looks to me like the big clubs have tried to change the status quo for some time but have been thwarted. The premier league has a set number of clubs who will not vote for change, they would lose too much money. They won’t change the TV money or the number of teams in the league. The TV money has likely not been split in the way the top clubs want, they likely want to receive what they see is their true value, after all they will know Liverpool v Real Madrid will coin in far more than Liverpool v Fulham. No disrespect to Fulham.

May be wrong but one way to get change where there are what the top teams will see as intransigence to change after trying everything is to pull the pin and chuck a grenade in, maybe not having the six clubs and far far less money is worse than having them but with less money and a smaller number in the league.

Times change, those screaming like Gary Nev were not shouting that loudly when the Premier League started. Change happens, will it be a European Super league, I don’t know. Personally we know there are too many games now yet no one is willing to grab the issue, maybe now they will.

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15 Apr 2021 10:04:13
Sounds to me like Ole is trying too hard to show he really has a holistic approach to his management. It really isn’t something to talk to the press about, like Ken said. It feels like players are using it as an excuse, that now Ole effectively uses as an excuse for losing. Maybe instead of looking at that he should be getting an optician in.

I read this stuff and it sounds like Ole is trying to show he really knows what he is talking about, almost like he knows many of us are far from convinced he is a manager, let alone our manager and wants to sound like he has his finger on everything.

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AJH

There were very few nights to match when Barcelona came to OT in 1984, Maradona and Schuster humbled by Robson. Not many will match that.

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14 Apr 2021 21:41:02
Booked, GDS

Are we really saying that after all these decades, the colour red in the stadium is causing us to lose. Then some will support Ole on this to the end of days no matter what.

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14 Apr 2021 17:54:51
Dear me, Old Trafford has been awash with red for how many decades? But now Ole blames defeats on red banners. “We have looked into this, and there shouldn't be any reason (why home form is worse) but some of the players have mentioned that, when making that split-second decision, to look to see if your team-mate is there or not, and the red shirt, on a red background, with red seats - we have of course tried to change that, along with the anti-racism campaign, that was important that wasn't red too. ”

There is one thing changing a grey strip, but the colour around the ground? Next the first 20 rows must all wear black, no red allowed, how about cricket sightscreens instead of fans? I laugh at some of the utter nonsense he comes out with.

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