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29 Aug 2019 12:35:26
I have heard a rumour that the club are gearing up to start improvements to the South Stand next year. However, the same rumour is that the land around OT has been bought not by United or our present owners but by a Middle Eastern connection. That is all I have heard but this is a rumour site.

Red Man

1.) 29 Aug 2019 14:34:29
Thanks for sharing red man. Very interesting.


2.) 29 Aug 2019 15:36:37
Great rumour Red Man, you can’t beat a good rumour.

Check out the Spurs site for a great Poch rumour In reply to a question I asked.


3.) 29 Aug 2019 16:23:08
Very good AJH. Looking into the neighbours house and thinking everything is rosey isn't necessarily the case.


4.) 29 Aug 2019 16:45:11
Wouldn't the ownership of the ground be public knowledge? There should be a way to check this up.


5.) 29 Aug 2019 18:06:49
LovelyLudwigVan

It said land around the ground. If you know the area the railway is right behind the South stand, there is a station there but behind that are houses and a street. The ground is the clubs and some land around it but no idea which bits.


6.) 29 Aug 2019 18:48:22
Yeah it's long been an issue, if I'm not mistaken Railway Rd is where they'd need to buy the houses, and they'd need to find a solution for the rail tracks. I just thought property owners, at least of non-residential buildings would be information available to the public. I remember reading that the costs to expand the stadium would be as much as building a new one, which will probably continue delaying any work.


7.) 29 Aug 2019 23:27:01
What was said AJH? i can't seem to find anything on the spurs page.


8.) 30 Aug 2019 07:21:03
DH click on Spurs banter.


9.) 30 Aug 2019 10:38:12
Hi All,

on the South stand situation.

The land is owned by the railway as is the bridge/ walkway from Railway road into the stadium.

I have friends who live on Railway road and they have not been contacted by anyone with regards to selling up.

In fact Jay (the City Fan) lives on the right of the bridge some 4-7 doors down (not giving his address. lol)

His place would be one of the houses directly impacted by development.

He'd been previously advised regrading the improvements when they were first put up for public review. although the extension would encompass the actual railway the physical building would be bridged over to form a covered station/ platform. It wouldn't require any of the houses to be bought unless it is found to cause irreparable damage to the property through ground disturbance.

Sunlight and shade is said to be of concern however due to the angle of the road they would still get a lot of light in the rear gardens.

Monk.


10.) 31 Aug 2019 06:54:36
Wow good info monk 👍.


 

 

08 Aug 2019 19:12:13
Does anyone know if Hannibal Mejbri signed from Monaco? Has anyone seen him play?

Red Man

1.) 08 Aug 2019 19:35:35
He will join in January when he turns 17 from what I read. Haven't seen him play though.


2.) 08 Aug 2019 19:36:05
Nope redman. He is 16 isn't he?


3.) 08 Aug 2019 19:50:51
Ken

Yes apparently we paid or are willing to pay £9m. Looked a scrawny lad but always interests me to see whether they are good.


4.) 08 Aug 2019 19:55:30
Yeah very highly rated all the big clubs were in for him. Big bucks redman. Its all gone bonkers mate.


5.) 08 Aug 2019 19:59:35
Ken

It has, but somewhere someone will unearth another Ronaldo or Messi. I recall the £12m for Ron but once he played against Bolton, just wow. I left the stadium buzzing.


6.) 08 Aug 2019 20:23:47
Never seen him play, but been told he has plenty of "bite". 😂.


7.) 08 Aug 2019 21:45:44
I'm sure there's a write up ir a video somewhere to get your teeth into.


8.) 08 Aug 2019 21:48:51
Shappy

You don't need to Lecter me on the bite! Perhaps a nice Chianti?


9.) 09 Aug 2019 09:39:29
Bestie was a scrawny lad.


10.) 09 Aug 2019 14:17:03
Yeah ot7 but he wasnt a centre back.


11.) 10 Aug 2019 08:31:47
Ken

This Mejbri is a midfield player is he not. To pay £9m for a 16 year old suggests he may be seen as special.


12.) 10 Aug 2019 10:46:09
Bit of information about Mejbri who was only born in 2003, (I feel old)

Joined Monaco in August 2018 after spells in the academies at Paris FC and AC Boulogne-Billancourt. Monaco paid £1million for the teenager when he was just 14. Played eight games for France u16s and is also eligible to play for Tunisia (dual citizenship) . He made one senior appearance for Monaco last season.
Mejrbi and his family became locked in a legal dispute with Monaco after the Mejbri family claimed the Ligue 1 club broke a contract agreement.
United are believed to have been tracking the teenager for six months with a number of other clubs including Bayern Munich and Arsenal who were said to be interested. £9m is believed to be the fee.


 

 

01 Aug 2019 10:31:49
I see a lot of excitement over Dybala. A few years ago on here before he went to Juve, I posted he was worth looking at. I think it was Phil Neville raved about him. Talented definitely.

However, at 25 has he really hit the heights or has he not really achieved the level his talent should have taken him to? If we sell Lukaku, we sell a goal scorer, he may not fit our style, his first touch may be awful, but he always scored goals. I am not sure replacing a goal scorer with Dybala is a great idea, Dybala is not prolific, creative yes but not a prolific scorer.

Does Dybala meet the criteria hungry? I am not sure whether he is the right replacement for Lukaku and if we rely on Rashford and Martial to score the goals this could be difficult. Greenwood has real potential and Dybala may block that route a little too much.

For me Dybala is a club, media clicks type signing, another one. Very talented but the right choice at this time? Not convinced, however, the speculation deflects from the less than convincing transfer window so far and Dybala speculation has the "look we tried to sign Bale" feel of 6 years ago.

I would rather have tried for a Lewandowski or Abeymaybeng or whatever he is called.

Red Man

1.) 01 Aug 2019 10:49:15
I want someone who really wants to play for the fans and wants to be a man utd player. Aubamayueng is a really good goal scorer but do we really want another 30yr old from who we might get two years of gt play and then what. He will have limited sell on value and prob stifle younger talent like greenwood.


2.) 01 Aug 2019 10:49:42
At the end of the day, Lukaku hasn’t worked out, and won't work out. Especially with the new style we’re trying to play.

Dybala is a fresh face, who suits the style we’re trying to play.

We all said we wanted a new RW/ AM, so now we’re potentially getting a top-class one we’re trying to pick holes in it.

Sometimes people can easily find faults in other, but are colourblind to faults of their own. Be happy, be excited. What will be will be, roll with it.


3.) 01 Aug 2019 10:56:01
A season back Dybala scored 26 goals.
Isn't that prolific?

He can play in multiple positions which is good for tactical flexibility.


4.) 01 Aug 2019 11:19:25
I shouldn't be too concerned with who we're linked with. The incompetent people at this club dealing with transfers are clearly not going to pull any rabbits out of the hat in the space of a week.

A bit melodramatic I know but this transfer stinks exactly the same as the last summer window and we all know what happened then. Nothing!


5.) 01 Aug 2019 11:20:28
True red. I watched all 26 yesterday too to see what type of goals they were and where he was on the pitch when he scored. He got a lot of pens and free kicks which is good. Rashford scores 1 in 10 free kicks
I then watched Fernandes to see where all his came from. Whilst there were similar goals scored I think they would both work and add an extra dimension and GOALS.


6.) 01 Aug 2019 11:26:08
And Red Man, why would Lewandowski move from Bayern where he is nailed on to win the league and compete in Champions league.
Be realistic.


7.) 01 Aug 2019 11:40:04
True red devil if that's the case why would dybala do the same.
The fact he's supposedly asking for 350 grand a week tells me he's pricing himself out of a move all the news from Italy is he doesn't want to come.

Topbormin is right its a pr stunt never gonae happen time to move on.


8.) 01 Aug 2019 12:37:10
Scott. Lewandowski is the focal point of Bayern's attack whereas Dybala is deemed surplus to requirement.


9.) 01 Aug 2019 13:14:55
Aubameyang would be my choice for cf is he was attainable. Said at the time arsenal signed him we should of gone all out to sign him.


10.) 01 Aug 2019 13:21:26
The issue is we could do with a proven top level goalscorer to take some of the burden off of Rashford and Martial.

However, we are a team that hasn't truly competed for the league in 6 years and currently can only offer Europa League football. What hungry, motivated player at the peak of their career would move to our club at the moment? Young players looking to step up a level, yes. Older players with their best days behind them and a clutch of medals looking for one last big pay day, sure. But top level players in their peak years? Unlikely.

So what do you do about it? Well you have four options.

1, sign an older player on huge wages who might do well but would ultimately block the path of the younger players. Also they might not be as good as their reputation suggests as they will be on the decline. Think either Zlatan or Sanchez. Not a great option.

2, Sign an average squad player. Someone to make up the numbers. This seems pointless as we have a bloated squad already.

3, Sign a top young talent. This doesn't really help as we then have three or four top young players.

4, Sign no other strikers, put faith in the players we have and hope they step up. Maybe sign a wide player or an attacking midfielder who can score a fair few goals and take the pressure off the strikers by having the goal scoring burden shared out amongst more players.

This seems like the best option and maybe the one Ole seems to be going towards.

Rather than have one player expected to score 25-30 goals, with others pitching with no one else scoring more than 10-12. Have 5-6 players all expected to score 12-18 goals each. Marital, Rashford, Dybala, Bruno Fernandes, Mata, Lingard, James, Pogba/ SMS and Greenwood could all score at least 10 goals next season, some of them could score 15-20. If all score 10 then that's 90 goals, if they all score 12 then that's 108. If one of them has a breakout season and scores 20+ then we will have a very good season.


11.) 01 Aug 2019 15:06:17
Shappy top strikers are hard to come by especially ones who want champions league, we need to get someone who can unlock defences for the strikers we have I've no doubt martial if played through middle can get us 20 - 30 goals this season with the right service lingard is not good enough for number 10 Bruno Fernandes is the most important signing even more than Harry Maguire IMO we need a world class AM . desperately.


 

 

14 Apr 2019 16:12:09
I see Paul Scholes has said he can't see us challenging for the title next season. Given his opinion was so highly rated by many on here about Mourinho, who thinks he is correct on this?

I think there is a chance of challenging next season but it needs a strong summer window plus Ole to realise he is manager, none of this leave the car park space for his old boss nonsense (if that is true) and get Meulenstein involved. He needs set out a style, be decisive over failing players like Young and improve his in game management. However, my concern is that the club will fall short on what it needs.

The Ed's comment that Solskjaer will have little say in transfers is very concerning. I fear we will buy for some not all the positions and not at the quality level needed to save money, nor exit those who need to go perhaps because the decision makers don't want to be seen as wrong over previous decisions. That could see us challenging for third. It needs decisive action, selling and buying but are the club capable? In that case Scholes may well be right.

Red Man

1.) 14 Apr 2019 17:43:29
Red Man, nothings changed. Its the same squad Jose struggled with minus Fellaini. How much control over transfers did Jose have? We all know he asked for a centre back and never got one. As long as we have these owners and their man running things we won't challenge. We haven't challenged since we can Persie's first season.


2.) 14 Apr 2019 17:55:29
Ed002 pointed out that we're looking at players that Jose wanted, but the club refused to purchase. That alone shows you there is no planning. We'll buy random players, for random systems, for different managers and hope that one clicks.

Ole really needs to grab this opportunity with two hands because it will never come again. The ruthless Ole that his old teammates talk about would want to put his stamp on this team.

The sad thing is, if Jose can't get the board to buy what we need, then Ole, a fan of the club at his dream job isn't going to ruffle any feathers. But I sincerely hope he does.


3.) 15 Apr 2019 12:18:35
this summer will prove where the owners priorities are and what they care more for.

do they cash in on the only 2 players that will get a hefty fee for or do we invest and get rid of the rubbish.


 

 

10 Jan 2019 06:50:04
I have just read there has been a major rule change for this seasons Champions League. Any players signed in the January transfer window will be eligible for the knockout rounds even if they have played in the group stages of the competition for another club earlier in the season.

I wonder if that could stir up activity in the January transfer window!

Red Man

1.) 10 Jan 2019 11:25:18
10 days in and none so far Red Man.

Though if Solanke is worth £19m and Callum Wilson is worth £50m I think we might be better just sticking with what we have got.


2.) 10 Jan 2019 12:47:24
Looking at most of what we've been linked with i'd save the money as well.


3.) 10 Jan 2019 13:47:11
Callum wilson is a decent striker.


4.) 10 Jan 2019 14:10:39
Singh,

I know, but £50m? I appreciate the game has changed and the prices of players has increased but that is utterly ridiculous.


5.) 10 Jan 2019 14:53:33
Decent players should not be going for £50m. Same with Tarkowski. Its this that pushes prices up for good players.


6.) 10 Jan 2019 18:13:45
I know GDS but we can't do nothing to change it. It is still not bad as Andy Carroll going for 35 mil.


7.) 10 Jan 2019 21:10:32
We paid over £50m for Fred, makes Wilson for £50m look like a bargain.


8.) 10 Jan 2019 22:30:46
So true danny. We have gone after two players which city were after and both have so far let us down.


9.) 10 Jan 2019 19:42:41
Hearing strong rumors that we are interested in signing Manolas from Roma this January. Does any of the Eds know if it's legit?

{Ed002's Note - They will have the opportunity to talk with Roma in Geneva next week - with Roma looking to move him on in the summer.}


10.) 11 Jan 2019 09:58:08
With Aldervierweld supposedly have a £25 million clause surely that is great value. Even 35-40 would be.


11.) 11 Jan 2019 12:01:20
You'll always pay a premium for decent English players.


12.) 11 Jan 2019 16:03:30
If Wilson's worth 50 what's Rashford worth?


13.) 12 Jan 2019 11:49:46
Mort it doesn’t matter what Rashford is worth because we won’t be selling him and don’t need the money.

£50m is the new £30m.


14.) 12 Jan 2019 13:30:29
Never suggested we should sell him or that we needed the money. Just a question on what his value is.


15.) 12 Jan 2019 17:17:25
According to transfermarkt, his value is 65m euro. Doenst mean United would accept that though :)


 

 

 

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20 Sep 2019 11:57:31
I am sat in a remote place abroad and couldn't see anything of the game last night. Pleased to see Greenwood score and Gomes get a game. I wonder if they will get much time on Sunday though.

A genuine question for those that did see the game, was the result what mattered or was there some good football on show? A year ago the result didn't matter it was all about the entertainment, how was it last night?

Red Man

1.) 20 Sep 2019 12:23:30
Awful performance last night. We shouldve beatem them 3 or 4 nil.

Rashford is so wasteful and hopefully he learns soon or else Martial and Greenwood will take over.

Fred, Dalot and Greenwood were good and aswell as Tuanzebe.


2.) 20 Sep 2019 13:17:39
Long story short, we had all the possession but couldn't break them down. 11 men behind the ball.


3.) 20 Sep 2019 13:42:39
Redman - The hardest part of football is putting the ball in the net. The game was predictably one sided. Astana defended their penalty box admirably with everyone behind the ball and made it difficult. Sometimes we forget that their are two teams playing but they were well organised and determined. Understandably they showed little appetite to attack but they did manage to create a few opportunities on the counter mainly aided by some suspect defending and poor individual decisions/ mistakes by Utd players.

Whilst Rashford missed a few decent chances only one was a real sitter and I feel some of the criticism has been unduly harsh. We all know his finishing can be inconsistent and this may ultimately prevent him from reaching the real elite level reserved for only the very best footballers. Let's not forget Rashford himself is still only 21, he has other fantastic attributes to his game and time is on his side. From a personal perspective I think he's a brilliant young player with plenty of time to develop and improve.

As for our youngsters Greenwood was probably the pick. On the periphery for much of the game it was a 17 year old that ultimately had the quality and skill to decide the game. From what I've seen he probably needs to play centrally rather than out wide. He strikes me as a box type player, he's very skill-full and when he collects the ball in the box he'll frighten defenders. What sets him apart is he's able to turn both ways and shoot from both feet he's looks a real talent.

Gomes struggled to play in between the lines because they sat so deep but he demonstrated some nice touches and pieces of skill on occasions.

Chong was probably guilty of trying a bit too hard. He was rarely able to beat his man and didn't have one of his better games.

Tuanzebe looked assured and composed but was rarely tested. I think he is an excellent prospect and surely now pushing Lindelof for a starting position.

It was great to see all the youngsters given a chance and they'll improve with experience.


4.) 20 Sep 2019 13:44:11
Another day we could have scored 4 goals quite easily. They were happy to sit back, which as a team, Utd struggle to break down teams that set up like this.

James would have had some joy if he had been fit to play.

Ching struggled to beat his man. It was a good learning experience for the lad.

Gomes kept things going and was generally neat in possession.

We won and that's all that counts. Greenwoods goal was very good. A goal like that will boost his confidence.

Marco's Rojo played well. He wasn't really troubled defensively but he put in some great crosses. He may just find playing on Sunday. His lack of discipline that concerns me when he plays.


5.) 20 Sep 2019 14:02:40
Crap game against poor opposition who sat with 10 men in there last 3rd .
Early stages of the Europa are almost pointless.


6.) 20 Sep 2019 14:04:53
A poor performance at home against a team no one has heard of, greenwood is about the best coming through,
The young kids did OK, don't think chong is ready, matic is too slow and slows everything down.


7.) 20 Sep 2019 14:27:25
Maybe the staff know after all just how ready the young ones are. Apart from Greenwood's goal and Tuanzebe not putting a foot wrong, none of the rest looked ready just yet. There'll be games better suited to them than that one.


8.) 20 Sep 2019 18:56:37
Phelan looked particularly grumpy, probably at our inability to kill off the game. DLIB’s round up is spot on, great t see the kids get time, som looked ok, some didn’t, we made hard work of scoring, something shots but only 1 goal.


9.) 21 Sep 2019 07:03:04
Cheers all.


10.) 21 Sep 2019 11:04:36
I thought chong might of gone on loan in summer, gomes Alex and mason all ready for the first team . Not sure about chong to be honest.


11.) 21 Sep 2019 11:57:39
Me neither jred, I thought he looked lost on Thursday.


12.) 21 Sep 2019 13:19:43
Chong needs a loan. Admirable he wants to fight for a place but regular game time at a level above the reserves would be more beneficial for him.


13.) 21 Sep 2019 17:52:11
Agree Mort. Look how Mount and Abraham have blossomed following loans.


 

 

13 Sep 2019 10:46:17
The words of our manager
"They've got good players, a proven top manager and Brendan's teams always play with football and we've got to play well to get the three points. "

We have got to play well. This is Leicester at Old Trafford, not City away, that is a negative thought process. A proven top manager he says Rodgers is, so Ole recognises that is important. Pity his bosses didn't.

"I think Harry [Maguire] has been brilliant. He's come into the dressing room as a leader"

Any thoughts on that Shappy as you were adamant he wasn't one?

Red Man

1.) 13 Sep 2019 11:20:45
It's just the same thing over and over again.


2.) 13 Sep 2019 11:37:12
Tbf oles comments are just the usual spiel you get in press conferences when a question about the opposition is posed.

Nothing to castigate him for redman.


3.) 13 Sep 2019 11:58:22
I think we’re in for a hard time. Martial, Shaw and Pogba unavailable injured.


4.) 13 Sep 2019 12:26:13
Scooby

It will be interesting, will OGS go with Gomes, Greenwood or Young, Matic and Mata? I would bet he goes with experience and that may condemn him further. I would rather see the Greenwood, Gomes, Garners given a game, the crowd would get behind them. Interesting choices tomorrow but injuries are no excuse as we had a transfer window to deal with the squad.


5.) 13 Sep 2019 12:34:39
AWB is doubtful as well.


6.) 13 Sep 2019 12:55:53
More gems “Man Utd is the biggest and best club in the world. I’m sure they (Leicester) want to get into the top 4 like we do”

That’s our aim now, top 4 above Leicester.

How the mighty have fallen. It may be the usual spiel but if this is the thought process then people need to wake up to it.


7.) 13 Sep 2019 12:56:36
Red Man,

Are you hoping he sends the players out telling them not to play well? Totally confused what he has said that is wrong here. Usual press conference, nothing to see.


8.) 13 Sep 2019 13:44:31
Regardless of how we Feel about our club and how we have got to this position is OGS not just being honest. There's confidence/ bravado etc but at the minute we are in the world of reality which is a team in transition.


9.) 13 Sep 2019 13:46:15
GDS2 agreed.


10.) 13 Sep 2019 13:48:02
Red Man it will be interesting. I see more pain to come with or without injuries to be honest.


11.) 13 Sep 2019 14:02:58
GDS

Sending them out to play well is a given, let’s hope he has some tactical ideas plus ensures the players know what is expected of every single one of them, before they cross the white line would be good.

Saying our aim is top 4 in competition with Leicester, recognising the importance of Rodgers being a proven top manager (which Solskjaer isn’t) and you don’t see any issue. Yes it’s a press conference, yes it’s standard dross yet he still shows he doesn’t understand the level of job he is in.


12.) 13 Sep 2019 14:49:57
Red Man I’m sure he’s aware of the level of the job.


13.) 13 Sep 2019 14:56:27
Will the supporters only get behind the team if we play the youngsters? Strange supporters.


14.) 13 Sep 2019 15:01:54
Nou

If you have been to OT support always gets behind our team more when we are the underdog or our young players are getting a chance. It isn’t an “only” as you put it but the crowd usually realise when we are up against it and take the support up a notch.


15.) 13 Sep 2019 15:19:02
Bring back the international break!


16.) 13 Sep 2019 15:51:37
the guy can't even win in the press conferences with some of you lot. and this is one of the reasons we are where we are,

what did you expect him to say redman? that we are going to challenge for the title and that rodgers is a piss poor manager?

think you need to wake up redman we are miles behind the top teams, top 4 for us with this squad would be a great season for us.

we all said we are an injury away from the likes of pogba and martial away from disaster.

make no mistakes Leicester are a good side and have played some good football in the 4 games so far and if we are being realistic they have a better midfield than us and we are now without our best cm.


17.) 13 Sep 2019 16:37:19
Agreed bolger2. I think we’re in for a slap.


18.) 13 Sep 2019 16:57:17
Does anyone have us favourites? I dont. I wouldn’t put a united win in my acca.


19.) 13 Sep 2019 17:07:26
Redman, I'm beginning to think you don't really rate OGS. 😂.


20.) 13 Sep 2019 17:43:01
There is a decent article in The Guardian, Solksjaer and the credibility conundrum. Adds some perspective on his abilities and the general situation.
I really hope Greenwood and Gomes get a start tomorrow. Would really generate some positivity around the ground. Hungry players who want to make their mark.


21.) 13 Sep 2019 17:57:00
Tomorrow Leicester s starting 11 is superior to our starting 11 and Ole can do little about that.
Years of mismanagement and injuries led to that.
Pretending that being Manchester United we have some God given right to win the game won't solve anything. We learned that quick fixes don't work and we know that probably things will get worse before they ll get better.
Either we accept that or else we start going again for short term fixes again with the same results.


22.) 13 Sep 2019 18:42:07
Dev1l,
Tomorrow in a mixed 11 i would have 7 Leicester players in.
With only ddg, maguire james and maybe 1 of rash or lindelof.
Without Pogba ole has matic mata pierera mctom fred maybe jessie to choose from in midfield unless he wants to throw garner or gomes in at the deepest of deep ends.
Up front he has the choice of rash greenwood james chong mata or jessie to fill the 3 positions.
Ole has to try and find a winning combination. Leicester have some fine players themselves and will come confident that they can win.
Im looking forward to the game.


23.) 13 Sep 2019 19:10:28
Ken, I m looking forward to the game too but not very optimistic. If Matic plays, as he ll probably do, I think our midfield will be outrun. He s so slow nowadays. The alternatives are Fred but there seems to he issues with him behind the scenes or maybe Perriera or Garner - who s still too raw Imo
.


24.) 13 Sep 2019 19:31:15
I mean Ole knew that the squad was lacking in several areas at the start of the summer, and could have addressed them during the transfer window. But he claimed we had a great transfer window, and that we had a squad capable of challenging.

Forget all the press conference nonsense, but you can say Ole can do nothing about our squad deficiencies if you conveniently ignore the fact that he could have done something but didn’t.


25.) 13 Sep 2019 21:33:48
Danny. I get that argument to an extent. He didn't get the players he wanted or needed everybody can see that. I don't think that's down to him.


26.) 13 Sep 2019 21:34:25
Matic will play tomorrow, I will be very surprised if he doesnt. I think he would of played even if pogba was fit .


27.) 13 Sep 2019 21:45:47
Yeah him and mctom i'm sure. Right side and 10 from jessie if available mata pierira and greenwood?


28.) 14 Sep 2019 07:18:32
Yellow Benteens

Yes read the article and was not surprised that senior players would be questioning his credibility. His results since being permanent do not inspire confidence. I think his best bet today would be to play Greenwood Gomes Garner. However, I expect Matic and Mata.


29.) 14 Sep 2019 07:25:51
Bolger2

I am very awake, I just wish some fans and the board at United were.

We are miles behind, yet many of those on here saying give Ole time were the ones berating Mourinho when finishing 2nd. Given we are miles behind people think sticking with the unknown is the way forward, yet given the credentials of the manager it is more likely to increase the gap. But hey he has the DNA

I hope for a vibrant win today, with trust in youth like Greenwood and Gomes paying off. I just don’t think the long term rebuild should be given to someone who has no relevant experience other than playing under the greatest. Enjoy the game.


30.) 14 Sep 2019 07:31:29
I have to say I am very pessimistic. This could be somewhat embarrassing.


31.) 14 Sep 2019 08:11:43
I said we should play greenwood buring thr summer? Snd got slated by some of the same people who now want to play him and garner.
I will be very surprised if garner plays.


32.) 14 Sep 2019 08:51:06
Danny, should the manager say the players are rubbish and we have no chance.

Players have to believe in the manager just as much as the manager does the players.

We seen jose tactics of slating players went well.


33.) 14 Sep 2019 08:56:19
Neither do I Ken, but he’s the one who’ll get the sack if these issues mean the team is struggling to compete for top four.

If the transfer team has hung him out to dry by leaving him with a squad that’s an injury or two away from Leicester’s level, why is he praising them and saying that the club’s transfer structure doesn’t need reform?


34.) 14 Sep 2019 10:44:09
That's what the last manager did Danny and got nowhere. Ogs is obviously trying a different approach.
He knows the fans are not stupid but is obviously trying too keep positivity rather than negativity. But the bottom line is he needs to improve the results it doesn't matter what he says.


 

 

05 Sep 2019 06:56:15
So OGS allegedly told the players their performance was a 'joke' and it was 'embarrassing' how they were failing to finish teams off. Also accused them of playing for themselves, trying the spectacular rather than sticking to the basics, there are individuals who need to put more effort in and are letting down their team-mates.

Then you have Matic comment, which is not surprising since he is not playing. Then whispers surface the senior players don't think the manager is up to the job.

Rinse and repeat because they chose the players over Mourinho who did know what he was doing.

Leicester is a must win game, because we have already had our worst start to the season since 1992 and our worst run since is it the 1930's. The players need to play for the shirt, regardless what they think of the manager.

Red Man

1.) 05 Sep 2019 07:47:08
But Redman, he has brought the good feeling back, says all the right things in the press, has cleared the 'deadwood', promotes youth, has us playing a very good brand of football and his in game management is really good. Oh and also, since he took over, check out that league table, he has us near the top.

Jose was just toxic, created a culture and didn't know what he was doing at the end.

You couldn't make this stuff up, no wait, that's exactly what people are doing.


2.) 05 Sep 2019 11:47:00
I forget who said : ‘these players will get Ole the sack’. Dead right.

Any manager is on borrowed time until the mentality changes.


3.) 05 Sep 2019 13:26:55
Roy keane fresh.


4.) 05 Sep 2019 14:18:29
A lot more sensible than the comments he made yesterday leahy 🙈.


5.) 05 Sep 2019 15:30:48
weve got leicester, arsenal and liverpool in the next 5 league games in 4-5 weeks time there could be some serious bum twitching going on. i hope we snap out of this poor form otherwise any moral in the team will disappear.


6.) 05 Sep 2019 16:48:39
The next five games is season defining already. We are miles off the pace and play the teams that will be around and above us. Could quite easily see us taking fewer than 3 points from Leicester, arsenal and Scouse.


7.) 05 Sep 2019 20:30:33
1 step at a time, this is how you build a team .


8.) 05 Sep 2019 20:50:35
If you have someone in charge who knows how to build a team Jred.


9.) 05 Sep 2019 23:31:48
😂 red man.


10.) 06 Sep 2019 02:03:22
How many points from 5 games would have people give Ole and his young team some slack? 15? 10?


11.) 06 Sep 2019 05:14:25
Ole can never win over you Redman :)


12.) 06 Sep 2019 06:52:27
Dodgy

It’s not the 5 games but the continuation from last season. Why is he having to shout at players after four games. I recall that we were supposed to be having the get fit pre season so we could play a totally different game, we were told to sit back and watch by some on here. Now he is having to take them on.

Looks to me like the players don’t think he knows what he is doing. Under Mourinho they knew what he was doing but decided they didn’t agree so didn’t bother. Now it is different but the same problem. The answer? Get a manager who definitely does know what they are doing and then start booting players out who don’t do it. Any manager who thinks Lingard is the answer is missing something and if that manager thinks the owners have heavily invested it shows him up even more. I heard a rumour that Southgate maybe our next manager, give me strength! The eclectic choice of manager is a problem, being chosen isn’t Ole’s fault, staying on when totally out of his depth, is.

True Red Devil
Difficult but not impossible. If Ole goes to a Newcastle type club and does well over a number of years, then maybe. But none of them would employ him. In fact what other team in a top division of a top league would have Solskjaer as manager? Do let me know.

{Ed047's Note - err, none.


13.) 06 Sep 2019 09:26:12
You know the story is from the Sun right? - Why would you even give it the time of day?


14.) 06 Sep 2019 09:33:43
If he didn't pull them up, you'd be saying he's too soft on them. He can't win.


15.) 06 Sep 2019 09:34:34
And, 'looks to me like', doesn't count as evidence.


16.) 06 Sep 2019 19:26:37
Roy keane would of been a better choice than OGS after Jose with maybe Scholes as his calming influence. OGS will not see out this season i'm sorry to say. 🙁🙁.


17.) 07 Sep 2019 05:47:54
ReaLLY Early days for ole but already some won't be happy until he is sacked .
Wanting a manager sacked before a ball is kicked all because he isn't a big enough name .


18.) 07 Sep 2019 10:23:53
It's those above OGS that need the sack but that's not going to happen any time soon. I'll support the club and the manager but I an realistic in the fact he is not good enough.

Nothing to do with a 'big name'. you are always so concerned about big names 😂😂.


19.) 07 Sep 2019 10:59:08
‘Must win game’, 🙄.


20.) 07 Sep 2019 12:46:06
Some couldn't wait for jose to be sacked some couldn't wait for lvg to be sacked lots of fans calling for them to be fired.
Ole needs to be getting better results then 95% of people will not want him fired.
Its early days this season apart form 2 teams nobody has been great. If ole and his squad start to improve results there will be less questions its as simple as that. If the results don't improve he will be fired i'm sure.


21.) 07 Sep 2019 14:43:12
Ken the vast majority waited at least a couple of seasons.


22.) 07 Sep 2019 14:49:11
Ken your probably like a lot will continue to judge ole (and the players) on a game to game basis .
Win a couple, couple of good games everything is ok, lose a game then, well just look at some of the comments after palace .

For some ole will never be a big enough name, every issue in the world will be related back to him .

Others will judge him over a period of time and on the direction he is taking the team .
People would like to fall into the later but true colours are shown after a defeat.


23.) 07 Sep 2019 23:16:53
Jred

Please get it into your head, it’s not about it being a big name, it’s about OGS’s complete lack of any relevant experience. He has nothing to suggest we should blindly, like nodding donkeys, just support him. If it doesn’t work it would be disaster but some have this warm emotional glow when they talk about him that means he gets time for them at least, they refuse to see he could take us on a disastrous path.


24.) 08 Sep 2019 06:03:15
Red man
Please get this in to your head, it not about blindly supporting someone like a nodding donkey .
It about given a manager or a player a chance to prove one way or the other he can do a job .
From your armchair you really have no idea what ole is about.
Any manager even with a great cv can fail .
Ole maybe hasn't got the CV to make him a big name in your opinion, but to say you want him sacked before a ball is kicked is the exact opposite to supporting your club .

{Ed047's Note - any chance you could explain to me how not wanting a particular manager at your club means you don’t support your club?


25.) 08 Sep 2019 08:52:21
Jred

The Ed asks a good question, look forward to your reply

I don’t have to defend my support because I have been there and done it, stood by after relegation and when we became European Champions. I never called for Jose’s head because he was a proven winner, I trusted that he would have got us back to a top position, if supported by the board and he wasn’t. I support the club and the team, have done for over 50 years, the manager and individual players are transitory employees who do not have an automatic right to be supported by happy clappers.

If we brought in a player from a Sunday pub team and he was crap, your argument is that we should be cheering his every move, no matter what. It’s the same folly that had a banner put up for Moyes. Ole has 3 wins from 17 or whatever and the Watford manager has just been sacked with a better record.


26.) 09 Sep 2019 05:30:04
It's simple ever manager needs time.
This whole cv things is wearing thin, jose had a magnificent CV but was a poor fit . Although like his cv suggested he had a 3rd season melt down .
It's to early to judge ole .
If we brought in s player from a pub team he should also be given a chance before being judged.

{Ed047's Note - that’s pretty much nailed it jred, there’s no way on this earth you’d bring in a pub player but that’s pretty much what you’ve done with your manager.

But you’re happy so it’s cool.


27.) 09 Sep 2019 13:35:40
Another silly analogy.


28.) 09 Sep 2019 08:19:25
Well said Ed47

Jred says Mourinho had a poor fit, yet Ole is also a poor fit based on experience. But it’s ok because we can trot out legend, DNA nonsense on repeat. It’s become a cult .

Ole was going to get them all super fit in pre season, that went well didn’t it, now we are getting injuries. It was obvious he didn’t have the necessary experience yet now on a run of relegation form, we are brow beaten that we should give him time, unspecified time, time that could put us in the bottom half of the table if it continues . Goodie, next season we will be avoiding relegation with this path. Not acceptable and we need to beat Leicester or your beloved cult figure may be on borrowed time.


29.) 09 Sep 2019 19:32:16
Jred i have not judged ole at all. I am still supporting him. Not once have i said he should be fired. Get down off your high horse and don't tell people how to support the club. Ole has had an awful run of results this season has started in the same vein as last season. Losing matches we should have won if he doesn't reverse that trend i think he will be fired.

I said judge him at xmas. 1 year into his job. If the team are playing well and getting results then I've no issue at all with ole.
Since the psg game we have only won 3 games or so. Its an awful run of form and that needs to turn around. Players are still needing in new signings and promoted youth players. He has taken 3 significant gambles that need to pay off this season.

1. Keeping Pogba
2. Not replacing our strikers and backing the youth of martial rashford and greenwood.
3. Not replacing herrera .
I hope Pogba holds it together for the season and that the goals begin to flow and our conversion rate improves. Od like nothing more than to see ogs succeed. He has the job and he needs too imorove results to keep it.


30.) 15 Sep 2019 22:33:50
Agreed with this Ken. This was why I asked how many points front he next 5 games people would be happy with. It helps to bring some time and perspective.

A run of 5 Loses would probably have seen Ole fired on top of previous trend of results.

First game down with a Win.

So is 4 wins and a loss enough for everyone to feel we are going in the right direction? 3 wins a draw and a loss? That form would probably be somewhere between 3rd and 6th if it played out for the rest of the season. Let's face it, that is where we are headed.


 

 

28 Aug 2019 19:56:45
I think it will be sad if United Addict leaves the page. Perhaps we should consider how we have discussions, disagreeing with things but not trying to destroy people's position by targeting an individual, an individual you don't even know. There is a element of bullying in the way people queue up to try to undermine people. We all support the same club, all want success, although perhaps there are some who see success differently.

Personally I recall being told I had some sort of mental condition about 5 years ago as part of a rather nasty campaign to discredit my position, but hey I am still here and the person who did it, isn't, but it doesn't get to me, it obviously does get to others. I don't aim to push people off the site and don't think anyone has left because of me, but I will hold a position I believe in and argue for it. Perhaps consider whether the site would be better or worse for the person who holds a different position being harassed off the site.

I hope United Addict makes a return.

Red Man

1.) 28 Aug 2019 20:27:00
Same as that, well said red.


2.) 28 Aug 2019 20:30:12
I don't think or I at least hope no one aims to push someone off the site .
People do argue there position infact UA does, there is no need to get personal tho .
People use the site for different things but it's been difficult to have a proper discussion for a while it just always gets dragged back to the same point.
The current one being ole,


3.) 28 Aug 2019 20:33:08
To be fair redman he has not been harassed of the site.
By the same token he has to accept that others have a different view. I have no issue with his votes or the way he puts then across at all i think he is a great poster and your right its opposing views that make the site worth visiting imo.


4.) 28 Aug 2019 20:48:58
Come on UA there is lots of❤❤❤ that's enough of your bolloxology😂.


5.) 28 Aug 2019 21:14:01
Anyone bullying people off the site, is bad behaviour. Who do people think that they should behave in this way? It is despicable.
UA, please ignore the ignorant people, we all have different views, and no one needs to be rude at portraying it.


6.) 28 Aug 2019 21:33:44
As Mort said, no one pushed UA off the site. He's a big boy. To be honest, I never really read his points, because there's inevitably an aggressive and hostile tone running through them that puts me off. Just how I see them. If he's big enough to dish it out.


7.) 28 Aug 2019 22:18:06
One regular poster threatened to prorogue me if I criticised Ole.


8.) 28 Aug 2019 22:19:36
No one wants to bully people off the site, or at least I hope they don't.

It would be a shame if UA leaves the site, but he is a big boy and has to make his own decisions. I don't think he has had it any worse than Red Man, or GDS, or jred, or Fresh, or Ronnie or myself plus many others who have had plenty of "banter" aimed at them.

Sometimes though a break from the site is needed. I've taken a step back on occasions and it has always helped me gain some perspective.

Hopefully after a while away from the site UA will feel able to return.


9.) 29 Aug 2019 02:13:47
Unfortunately some people don't see things as early as others or see them differently and give them hell for airing their views. Is beast still around? I remember seeing him get a pretty regular bashing during the LVG era, but now most would agree with what he was saying.


10.) 29 Aug 2019 07:12:59
I was here 5 years ago Red Man but I don’t remember that. I know when i joined I AM KLOOT was pretty offensive and regularly warned, it has got much better which is why we shouldn’t throw the word bully around so easily.

{Ed047's Note - RAINFISHTRUMBONE🤔


11.) 29 Aug 2019 07:41:52
UA Just register under a different name.
I did this after bring harassed for being a JMB clone (never did find out who he was)
I found a new identity whilst continuing to express similar views - stopped all the hassle.
Funny how people react on here.


12.) 29 Aug 2019 08:13:27
If it was RAINFISH then I’m not surprised but that was more than 5 years ago.


13.) 29 Aug 2019 08:51:15
I thought I Am Kloot was Rainfishtrombone reincarnated?
. or the other way round?


14.) 29 Aug 2019 09:02:38
Is UA not just JMB under a different name then?

I've always assumed he is, his style of posts are almost identical.


15.) 29 Aug 2019 09:17:07
Bilko yer I think so .
99 makes a good point below, people have been called worse than pessimists.


16.) 29 Aug 2019 10:33:53
It shouldn't matter what their name is or was, if everyone had the same view, it would be a bit boring
I don't agree with half the posters on here but I don't go replying to their every post hounding them.


17.) 29 Aug 2019 10:46:58
The best thing to do is take yourself away from the site for a couple of weeks or whoever long you feel you should. I did recently and only posted a nonsense little fact because it interested me.
Sometimes it feels like the same people reply to certain posters to get a reaction. It also becomes extremely boring and time consuming to read the same arguments over and over.
I’ve just enjoyed having the football back on and how all the teams look early on.
I don’t think we’ll be far off 3rd-4th with non of Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea looking particularly impressive.


18.) 29 Aug 2019 11:37:20
I assume UA isn't JMB, MAZE, whatever he used to call himself as that incarnation wouldn't have ever taken offence, he would have just been rude to everyone and talked in 3rd person about himself.

Not really sure why UA took offence below though, from what I could see nobody was personal to him. I've said a few times that he doesn't seem to enjoy football or coming on here, if something made me so sad and miserable I would take a break and try and be a bit more positive. Be thankful your father wasn't a Bury fan etc, we are having some tricky times but I am quite enjoying the challenge of getting back to the top.

I respect anyone on here as we are all United fans, we should stick together even if we have differing opinions, that's why I was frustrated the other day when it was made out I am just here to have a go at people, that certainly isn't the case.

This site would be boring if everyone agreed, but I would suggest UA posts more when we win and looks at the positives rather than waiting for a defeat and bombarding the site as that will always get people's backs up.


19.) 29 Aug 2019 11:57:56
AJH

It wasn’t Kloot/ Rainfish. Don’t think I ever had an issue with Kloot at all. The one who did it started with one name then changed to X file or something like that, lived in the Middle East, told us he was a non exec director as he was important ( I know what one is) . Think it was about Moyes but he doesn’t post now.


20.) 29 Aug 2019 12:33:38
Shahram?


21.) 29 Aug 2019 12:36:16
Ah yes, Shahram, who became X Files perhaps. I always wondered what happened to him.


22.) 29 Aug 2019 12:42:24
people telling posters to go and support another club probably doesn't help if the person its aimed at has supported united all there life. you need different opinions and different characters or life would soon be boring.


23.) 29 Aug 2019 12:54:52
We need Beast and UA for active discussions.


24.) 29 Aug 2019 13:05:19
Agree Jod

Almost like you won’t come round to my way of thinking so “go support someone else”. Seen that a few times recently, from some notable posters.


25.) 29 Aug 2019 15:25:08
I love how comments get taken out of context and twisted. I can see why the club employ media people to work with the players.

I said why support the club if their is nothing you love about the club? If you can't find any joy from supporting the club then you might be better off going and supporting a club that does make you happy.

Football is an entertainment industry, how many times do you watch TV programs you don't enjoy? Or spend money on activities you hate?

Spend thousands of pounds a year to be a member of a golf club and spend all day Sunday playing golf even though you hate golf. That's madness and you just wouldn't do it.

So why would you do it if it's football?

We are all here ultimately because we love our club. My point was more an attempt to shake people up and make them remember what it is they love about their club.

There is loads wrong with our club at the moment, if you only focus on that then your bound to be miserable. So choose not to, you can't change it. Instead focus on what you love about the club and cherish that.


 

 

26 Aug 2019 18:48:16
So Luke Shaw is ruled out for a month, who should play and who do you think will play?

Should be Brandon Williams but I bet Ashley Young gets the run.

Red Man

1.) 26 Aug 2019 19:24:39
Dalot should be our primary backup for both fb positions.

The reality is that Young will play regardless of his form and ability.


2.) 26 Aug 2019 19:28:49
Dalot for me. Probably Young, tho. To be fair, he looked our most creative player when he came on last game 😁.


3.) 26 Aug 2019 19:34:59
I agree on Dalot but unless I am mistaken he is also injured, hence the question.


4.) 26 Aug 2019 19:54:10
Dalot is injured. Brandon Williams has looked good for the u23s. I'll go with him.


5.) 26 Aug 2019 21:16:01
Dalot is injured, but he would have been top of my list.

However, I disagree with the Ashley Young bashing. I actually feel he is better at left back than he is at right back. I suppose spending most of your career in the left despite being right footed just makes the transition easier for him.

I think he will do well while covering for Shaw. He didn't make any mistakes against Palace when he came on and was a constant outlet on the left.


6.) 27 Aug 2019 00:43:29
If we don't have Dalot and don't want Young Is the answer in the short term to have 3 at the back. I think OGS played this in some games last year and possibly would suit our current players.


7.) 27 Aug 2019 05:19:15
Dalot was my first choice backup option too. Unfortunately he is injured.
Young is the obvious 4th choice.

More than LB, I worry about De Gea. Seriously, something isn't right with his frame of mind.
His errors are proving very costly. He needs to up his game soon as he is one of the few old heads in the team.

{Ed0666's Note - I’d want a bit more from a keeper if I was paying him a third of a million pound a week TrueDevil.


8.) 27 Aug 2019 12:48:16
I say we should've moved him on in the summer. He doesn't look right.


9.) 27 Aug 2019 06:43:20
Absolutely Ed.
Sadly we are short on quality players and therefore have to pay premium wages to keep hold of them.

{Ed0666's Note - I’m not sure you’re short on quality after all Leicester won the league with only one great player what you’re short of is structure, common sense, a clear blueprint and stellar coaches.


 

 

 

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29 Aug 2019 18:06:49
LovelyLudwigVan

It said land around the ground. If you know the area the railway is right behind the South stand, there is a station there but behind that are houses and a street. The ground is the clubs and some land around it but no idea which bits.

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11 Aug 2019 15:08:41
Ken

The biggest issue at the club was the leveraged buy out. Then the lack of any strategy or plan to replace SAF.

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11 Aug 2019 10:12:47
Mort

My position on the strategic issues with the owners, the debt, the structure of the club has been aired on here regularly. The lack of success isn’t just down to the manager, we had one of the best in Mourinho yet they didn’t support him (and it cost us £20m more to sign Maguire a year later) and if he couldn’t succeed it tells you something is inherently wrong. However, that doesn’t make the present manager the right one. However he is in place so we support the team and get on with it.

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11 Aug 2019 09:22:47
Lots of times people throw double standards around, yet at the same time suggest giving OGS more time than the last three managers. Why is that? The emotional sentimentality of a playing legend being in charge. But that isn’t double standards of course, its just because they love Ole. He is a legend to me, but a playing legend who has done nothing to deserve the managerial position. I doubt they would have appointed him if they had waited to the end of the season and the relegation form that was on display. He should be judged the same as the other managers were.

Today, I support the team as I always have, wish I could be there like I was for decades but I can’t. Get behind the team, wear green and gold and what will be will be, like we sang in 77.

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10 Aug 2019 10:48:22
I think we will start well and positively but will fade later in the season. Everyone is looking to Greenwood as the potential star, however, I wonder if Garner maybe the one who also surprises us in midfield.

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22 Sep 2019 12:58:37
Aguero definitely, creates his own space. Best striker Brazilian Ronaldo.

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Cheers all.

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19 Sep 2019 11:52:57
Jred

You didn’t answer the question but asked deflecting questions instead.

I didn’t define ambition as signing DDG, in fact is signing an existing player even a sign of ambition?

Ambition is signing new players with a plan to win leagues and the Champions League. We did sign 3 decent players but fell a long way short and the net transfer budget didn’t stand up to scrutiny for an ambitious club.

He has signed and as I posted above I think we should be happy, yet, we have by all accounts a young English keeper with real potential and I hope there is a plan with him.

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19 Sep 2019 07:35:30
Jred

Making things up again to suit your point? Where is the quote of me saying that? Where did I say “United lack ambition and this was shown by DDG not signing a new contract”?

I did say “Why is no one questioning Woodward for losing one multi million pound asset of the business and about to lose another even more valuable one? ” That was Herrera lost to the club and now he has secured DDG very late in the day. You can defend Woodward if that is what you wish, but I won’t after the last 6 years.

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Jred

Where did I use DDG not signing to back up my view? As above he was reported as concerned about the ambition of the club. I criticised Woodward for allowing DDG contract to run down as a valuable asset and asked what questions were being asked of the Exec VP in letting assets leave. I don’t recall tying that to my view about the manager. Do quote me as needed.

Nou
We don’t know the terms of the contract, any agreements to leave if. in 12 or 24 months. Is it alien to you that we may have had to pay a premium to overcome his concerns?

Red Man