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05 Jan 2025 13:24:00
Make of it what you will, but Garnacho has deleted his Twitter account this morning.
1.) 05 Jan 2025 13:50:05
I would imagine he's been advised to do so to prevent him from digging his hole any deeper - he does have rather a dim bulb.
2.) 05 Jan 2025 19:35:49
And he stopped coloring his hair, he probably wants to become a footballer again ?.
3.) 05 Jan 2025 20:18:43
He’s also got an assist at Anfield more importantly.
4.) 05 Jan 2025 22:17:57
Garnacho has the talent, but it's whether he has the mentality to make it. He's made some poor decisions and shown his childish tendencies a little too often.
It's harsh, but when you play for Manchester United you have to grow up fast or you'll fade away.
I think he needs better people around him advising him, as many of his faux pas could have easily been avoided if he listened to some sound advice.
I've said previously that he doesn't have a natural spot in this Amorim system based on what he's shown himself to be as a footballer so far. He will need to get his head down (figuratively speaking, on the pitch however he needs to lift his head up) and round out his game. The only place for him is in one of those No.10 roles, but he needs to be more like Messi than Ronaldo I that position. He needs to be creative, hard working and a team player. He needs to learn to link with his team mates better, play for them.
If he does that then he'll become a top player, if not then he'll be gone within two years and risks becoming another Januzaj.
I thought he looked a better today against Liverpool, he played the assist to Amad rather than smash the ball at goal from a tight angle. That was a good decision and showed what he can do if he lifts his head and looks for his teammates.
5.) 06 Jan 2025 06:18:50
Good on him.
He looks a shadow of himself on the pitch at the moment. I hope it's a "full focus on football" type of choice.
If I were a professional footballer, i'd have no social media whatsoever.
6.) 07 Jan 2025 02:26:51
Liverpool fan in peace here and I think it is a good sign that Garnacho has deleted his social media accounts. I always found him to be a good prospect for you lot but he seems to have lost his way a bit since the start of the season. It didn't help that the fans and media were building him up to be the main man in the team, which understandably contributed to him developing a bit of a big head. Hopefully this is a sign that he is putting his head down and is working hard on himself again.
18 Oct 2024 06:59:15
Rumour is that ETH is keen to sign midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 27, in January as he attempts to rebuild his midfield. Not again, please
If the new board gives in to this nonsense I will lose a bit of faith in them. Stop pandering to the manager turning us into a dutch Ajax B team. I hope it's like Wesley Schneider who never turned up.
However, we could do with a magician in the club, Dynamo would be best and make the manager disappear.
1.) 18 Oct 2024 08:09:54
Hopefully he does sign him in January along with Antony.
2.) 18 Oct 2024 10:07:04
I doubt due to wages he wouldn't be an option now but I'd have him all day long. Not had a midfielder that controls a game since the days of Scholesy. I imagine we'll end up with Gomes or Ward-Prowse.
3.) 18 Oct 2024 10:45:21
A healthy a FDJ is a superb player and will have many suitors. I can see city and many other top teams lining up. He would vastly improve us so no issues from me if he came.
Unfortunately he seems to keep injuring the same ankle so its just another click bait story imo.
4.) 19 Oct 2024 06:53:27
Red man, it's Wilcox who wants him.
5.) 19 Oct 2024 12:40:07
Angel
Is it?
A 27 year old, with injury issues, doesn’t seem to fit with everything we we were told about the direction of the club on signings. Looks nearer to a Casemiro type signing.
We need someone to score goals.
6.) 20 Oct 2024 14:59:21
Red Man, you make 27 sound ancient! A midfielder at 27 should be in their prime. Can't compare with the Cas signing. The injuries, fair enough. But 27, c'mon mate ?.
05 May 2024 18:09:44
Maguire injured in training and out for 3 weeks apparently. Another training injury.
1.) 05 May 2024 18:20:58
I think he's been playing injured for quite some time.
2.) 05 May 2024 18:21:55
Just posted that. Surely someone has to be looking at our training methods, the amount of muscle injuries is a total joke.
3.) 05 May 2024 20:06:39
Does anyone remember that up until a recent point, the length and type of injury was never disclosed?
And now the media machine is in overdrive, things have become a lot more detailed ?.
4.) 06 May 2024 07:13:09
Might mean that Louis Jackson gets his chance.
5.) 06 May 2024 11:40:33
Other clubs have suffered similar injury issues when they have had a manager trying to introduce a high energy pressing style.
The thought is that you need to increase the players fitness and stamina and the only way to do that is to train at a high level over a long period of time to raise base level fitness.
Teams that have done this have tended to suffer a season of excessive injuries, before the players were conditioned to have the stamina and base fitness required to play a high pressing style.
Given EtH's comments at the start of the season of wanting to turn us into the best transitional team in the world, along with occasional comments about the intensity of training, and our injuries this season it does sound like we are training to raise base fitness and stamina of the squad, which will be contributing to the injuries.
If we are to commit to a high energy, transitional style then these injuries are just part of the growing pains that we will have to endure to get there.
Hopefully next season then players will be better conditioned because of this season and less prone to injuries, while those not suited to that style should hopefully be moved on and replaced with players suited to that style.
Of course that depends on whether the manager will be here next season and that style is the style the new owners/ club structure wants us to play moving forward.
From the outside looking in it looks like EtH tried to introduce this style at the start of last season, but quickly realised he didn't have the players to play it, so he went more pragmatic. Over the summer he looked to make changes to the squad and decided to commit to this style of play. According to the man himself part of his remit when he was hired was to impart this style of play on the squad. Last season they accepted the limitations and a more pragmatic approach, but with the intention of planning for and moving towards this direction this season.
EtH seems to have just followed through with the plan agreed between him and the club. He's taking the short term pain on the chin this season with a view on the long term gains.
It would be a shame if he doesn't get the chance to see through these plans, but if the new club structure doesn't align with this direction then it's best to end things sooner rather than later.
Personally as a fan I prefer a higher energy more transitional style over a slower possession based approach. I feel it's more entertaining to watch and is more closely aligned to the style of play I associate with Manchester United.
Yet that is just my opinion, and ultimately it is the opinion of the new owners and the new people being put in key positions at the club that will ultimately decide the direction of the club. My job as a supporter isn't to fight against it if they don't do what I want, but to support the club in this new direction. Whatever that may be.
26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.
1.) 27 Apr 2024 16:02:51
INEOS will be upgrading the men's section of Carrington this summer. Much welcome changes.
2.) 28 Apr 2024 11:25:30
I love these kinds of rumours, and it's a shame we don't see more of them on here anymore.
I think it's clear there will be big changes at the club over the next decade or more.
SJR has not invested a huge amount of money (with it likely that he will invest more in the future) in order to keep things as they are.
I think he sees Manchester United as his legacy, his chance to leave an indelible mark on the city he grew up in. Can he be the man who puts Manchester United back on our perch.
The rumours and from what he's said openly all sound great. Focus on youth and developing players, something that should be synonymous with the club. Focus on an entertaining style of play, again something that has been a big part of our history. Looking to redevelop Old Trafford and the surrounding area. To breathe new life into Manchester and create a stadium and facilities that are not just the envy of the rest of the country, but also that can support and reconnect the club with the local area. Somewhere for people to gather as a community, a place that offers employment opportunities, improvements in infrastructure and possibly even housing.
The club appears to be focused on buying up space around the stadium, and that almost certainly means they are gearing towards some form of redevelopment of the area. While the recent news of a task force being put together to look at and explore opportunities around the stadium just confirms this.
Personally I'd like to see a Manchester United development built up. With ideally a new stadium that will be the biggest and best in the country, a second smaller stadium for the women and youth teams to play at, hotels, food outlets, a rebuilt museum, a community centre, shops, and attractions. With well integrated sustainable infrastructure, roads, rail etc.
Somewhere for fans to gather not just for hours before and after matches, but for youth and women's games, for special events and weekly events. Somewhere that can be the hub of the Manchester United community.
Hopefully that or something closer to that is what we get. How we get there I don't know, but I have faith that SJR will push to get us something like that.
3.) 30 Apr 2024 12:09:25
heres another 1 shappy- for quite some time we always parked in akp grounds rear of the ticket office and canal. Earlier this year got told off the attendants that "man utd had taken keys back " and stopped it and the depot from being used . Large plot in very prominent position.
11 Mar 2024 20:38:58
Reports say Amad has deleted all mention of his club connection from his social media. Another player hacked off, likely because he has got virtually zero minutes. Looked to have a nice left foot.
1.) 11 Mar 2024 22:25:49
Another unusual signing of the Ole era.
2.) 12 Mar 2024 05:58:01
Wazza
Big money for an unknown kid. But he hasn’t even been given minutes from Sub, why not, instead of Antony. Now another player that looks like he has been ostracised by ETH, whose value will now plummet because of this. Someone needs to ask if ETH is handling these situations right. Bruno, Rashford and Antony don’t have to play well, get time. Now ETH has pushed another nose out of joint by the look of it. Good enough not good enough but the kid hasn’t been given anything.
3.) 12 Mar 2024 07:07:33
Out of curiosity did you see him play at forest in the cup? Looked a million miles off the required level in that 25 minutes! I’m not sure why the manager is getting stuck for a ridiculous priced signing he didn’t make not getting minutes when he sees him every day and it appears Forson has jumped above him!
4.) 12 Mar 2024 07:29:53
He has been given minutes.
How do you know this is a falling out with the manager, rather than Diallo now performing well in training?
Hasn’t ETH dropped Antony to give your beloved Garnacho that position, with the latter starting something like 25 games in a row
This pesty manager, I really wish he’d give one or two teenagers a prolonged run in the team….
5.) 12 Mar 2024 07:30:18
Apparently that's not quite right, he's deactivated his social media for Ramadan.
Be careful which reports you read and remember not to jump to conclusions.
6.) 12 Mar 2024 08:53:44
He has explained that decision by saying: “I deactivated my social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan, it’s a holy month for me and social media is a place where there are bad things to see during fasting. Stop the hatred, there’s nothing wrong with what I did. ”.
7.) 12 Mar 2024 10:35:46
He deleted Utd related stuff and left those from Sunderland. I know we play some haram football under ten Hag but come on, read between the lines. I get his frustration though. I too would be fuming if Antony was playing more minutes than me, and I am not even a professional footballer.
8.) 12 Mar 2024 10:51:40
Quick to jump on absolutely anything to have a go at the club, maybe take a step back and think before you post. The press make enough stuff up without stirring it up ourselves, I guess they got what they wanted though if people believed it.
9.) 12 Mar 2024 14:24:54
He doesn't get a game because he's no better than what we have already.
Absolute waste of money!
40 million Euros for a player that made 5 first team apperances and currently earns about 35 grand a week.
This just about sums United up really.
10.) 12 Mar 2024 14:48:52
Of course its ETH fault, everything is his fault. Posters here know more than the manager who spends 6 days a week with the players.
11.) 12 Mar 2024 15:53:19
Nice to see some humility from Red Man with an admission of getting it very wrong!
On an unrelated matter, I recently saw ETH walking down the street and at the bottom of the road he had the temerity to turn right, can you believe that? clearly this shows a complete unsuitability to be allowed to walk outside as all the experts know you should always turn left at the bottom of a road.
12.) 12 Mar 2024 19:06:07
IWOTB,
It reminds me of my mates in WhatsApp groups who only message when we are losing, as soon as we are winning I hear nothing, nobody seems to be able to celebrate wins anymore, just get annoyed about defeats.
13.) 12 Mar 2024 20:09:08
I want our trophy back
If I was wrong then I hold my hands up
However, sounds an unusual action especially if he left the Sunderland information in. Looks to me like he was frustrated and reacted, but see what happens to him and see what information comes out.
14.) 12 Mar 2024 22:09:44
Red Man, he has clearly stated that he has deactivated his social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan.
The point is though, you seem to just scour the media purely to seek negative stories which you then jump on here to use as a stick to beat every aspect of the club with. Leaving aside the issue of perhaps looking to find some correlation of the truth or otherwise of these usually spurious and nonsensical stories, it has to be said you seem to have lost all sense of even handedness and fair mindedness towards anything related to the club, yet you try and present yourself as some form of premier supporter.
15.) 12 Mar 2024 22:14:39
Giggs to Sheringham, yes mate, you are spot on. When we win almost no posts, see after Everton game.
If we lose it goes mental with dozens of posts essentially repeating the same thing over and over.
16.) 13 Mar 2024 10:31:57
Redman - look at what this player just did.
Everyone - the guy gave a clear explanation, it’s nothing.
Redman - *staring at photo of Amad’s nice left foot* still seems fishy to me.
17.) 13 Mar 2024 18:39:10
I want our trophy back
Let’s see as the season comes to a close. I will say something about what I see, especially when the clowns at the club have made such a mess.
Also, I won’t bother posting about it, sure you can read about Season Ticket holders in Section 122.
Danny, well they told me it was Amads left foot I was looking at….
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18 Apr 2025 09:50:55
Wow is what I recall writing on live chat, I was too busy screaming the house down to do much else. That was a generational game, one of those lucky enough to be there or not to have left will remember forever, it was sensational on TV. Watch to the end in games like that, I have played it back about 20 times this morning. Enjoy that moment. Fancy leaving before the end on a game like that, probably the best comeback ever
We scored five goals and won 5.4, I read the only other time we had that scoreline was the pre Munich Arsenal game. In all the mayhem the who scored mattered. Amorim said Maguire was the only one capable of scoring a header, that's a terrible indictment of what forwards we have.
Can we really win a competition with such inept forwards? Lovely morning after last night, but perhaps Harry will get the Number 9 position in the league games to see if he can improve our scoring, after all, there is nothing else.
1.) 18 Apr 2025 11:23:07
Other than the one a forward scored the week before.
But as there were no forwards available/ on the pitch at the time, he probably was the only one on the pitch that could.
2.) 18 Apr 2025 11:53:22
What a mint game thought it was over McGuire what an absolute legend of a man surely beat that Spanish team they're no great all set up cor Spurs in the final winning manager keeps his job add a bit of spice.
3.) 18 Apr 2025 12:45:58
I wouldn't underestimate Bilbao. To do so, would be at out peril.
4.) 18 Apr 2025 13:15:37
I am so happy for Maguire, to have that moment at OT. If I get the chance ever, I will plant a smacker on that big beautiful bonce of his and just thank him because me and my son will never forget that moment and the pandemonium that ensued.
I will remember those last 5 to 10 mins forever and fortunately forget about the rest!
It's best left to Sir Alex to sum it all up.
5.) 18 Apr 2025 14:53:06
Maguires trash, he ducked for their 2nd, let their winger skin him in our box for their 3rd and should have been blown for a foul for his winner. let's not get it twisted because his names on the scoresheet.
6.) 18 Apr 2025 14:59:54
Just overlooking Bilbao is foolish, they have the added incentive of final is in there city, they have fantastic player in Williams and some good others too and they are a team…. They are no mugs, with us who knows who turns up!
It’s a tough game, but we can keep fingers crossed, but still a severe worry with the GK and no striker…damning incitement on Rasmus again 5 goals and he can’t even get a shot on target, a midfielder who not played for weeks comes on and scores! He is really a shocking striker…. hope we can ship him out.
7.) 18 Apr 2025 17:25:49
G Nev,
In what world was it a foul for the goal? Absolutely none whatsoever, give your head a wobble. If all you can do after that last night is pick fault then I don’t think United or football are for you.
8.) 18 Apr 2025 18:08:08
Absolutely not a foul, G Nev, but we should have had a second penalty when he's being tagged down by the defender who then throws his body across Maguire to prevent him reaching the ball.
9.) 18 Apr 2025 18:14:47
He kept his arm out and the defender backed into it, before breaking the long jump and high jump records.
10.) 18 Apr 2025 19:13:25
If you say so. He was shredded for their 3rd, he’s low tier football ability wise, and was the same again last night, reminds me of the old division 3 games i used to go watch, lumping to the block head center back to get a goal.
Keep kidding yourself it was a great night, Ruben knows it wasn’t, watch his post match interview he wasn’t happy at all.
11.) 18 Apr 2025 20:06:58
Come on gnev. Maguire had a couple of great moments last night. Credit where it's due.
He has showed good character and been a good squad member.
Nobody is saying he has suddenly turned into a great player but he had great moments last night and I am pleased for him.
If everybody in the squad was as strong mentally as him we would be in a better place.
He has earned those moments last night. Fair play to him.
12.) 18 Apr 2025 20:37:08
We won in the end tw and that’s all that matters but to start blowing trumpets i won’t do. We should never have been in that position and it wasn’t a great night at all. We got lucky with the pen and then the push imo.
Only thing i’d give maguire credit for is keeping his head down and not being disruptive (which is his job getting paid 200k+) apart from that nothing more.
13.) 18 Apr 2025 22:27:10
I’ll give him credit for having a reasonable game. But he is still pants.
14.) 18 Apr 2025 22:45:37
G Nev,
I can tell you weren’t there last night, how can you possibly say last night wasn’t a good night if you’re a United fan? I can only assume you’re just saying it for a reaction. Watch the celebrations, drink them in, tell me again it wasn’t a great night. Amorim said the noise inside OT was the best noise he’s ever heard and he wants to keep it forever in his post match interview, certainly seemed happy to me.
15.) 18 Apr 2025 22:53:12
I actually think that might be the real Gary Neville!
16.) 19 Apr 2025 00:04:31
G Nev, nobody is saying we were brilliant. We should never have been in that position.
But if that wonderful, chaotic, mental finish didn't stir something in your soul, then fair enough.
17.) 19 Apr 2025 06:23:42
I loved the ending but playing like this against athletic, we will get shipped out. They are a very good team, don't concede many goals and will pick us off. We had 41% possession at home against a team that played with 10 men for a long spell.
18.) 19 Apr 2025 10:04:30
Oooooft if fans are scared of facing Bilboa that shows how low the standards are a big spending club like UTD should absolutely smash Bilboa there nothing special.
19.) 19 Apr 2025 10:17:31
Ahmad,
It was just a mad game mate, analysing possessions stats in a 5-4 win feels pretty pointless and I can’t believe you’ve even looked at that unless you’re searching for something to not be happy about. Sometimes you just have to accept it was one of those nights when football doesn’t make sense, the whole club is now on a high, enjoy it, go with it, don’t over analyse, get behind the lads.
20.) 20 Apr 2025 19:00:22
GDS2
I agree we were utter sh. t but for a 7 minute spell. I see we lost again today. Utter garbage football imo.
21.) 21 Apr 2025 00:30:33
Yes we lost today but you analyse stats don’t you so the 60% possession we had and the many more shots surely means you’re happy with today? Or does it only work that way if it’s the opposite so you can moan even though we won?
04 Mar 2025 02:32:21
You know I keep my eye on the youth and today mention JJ Gabriel
I have flagged this kid before on here but there is a great article on him in the National paper.
Apparently at 6 taught himself keepy uppies and could do 1,000 in a row quickly. His skill level is said to be off the scale.
Not just that he has determination, absolutely key in success.
Playing in one game suffered a heavy collision and dislocated his shoulder. He refused to go off. He popped his shoulder back in and went on to score a hat-trick and get an assist in a 4-0 win.
Now training at times with the U18's and whilst called Kid Messi, he is likened more to Cristiano.
Apparently everyone is trying to get him. Let's hope the club look after him well and he can achieve what sounds like ridiculous potential. Note we heard this with Ravel at the same age so it's not a given. Would be unreal to get a world beater through the ranks. Perhaps, was it Bob Bishop? (From memory) who said to Busby about Georgie, I think we have found a genius. Oh to be true again.
1.) 04 Mar 2025 08:40:53
Red Man,
One thing to be wary off is his father. A failed pro who is now using the kid as his golden ticket. Touting him around every club in Europe. A bit of a tube by all accounts.
2.) 04 Mar 2025 08:52:44
No nothing of him really other than the usual stories.
3.) 04 Mar 2025 10:17:15
Is this Earnshaw's kid? Heard bright things about him.
4.) 04 Mar 2025 12:48:57
No his dad is called Joe Oceaurill some ex Irish footballer I believe.
5.) 04 Mar 2025 12:50:18
Nah it’s not Earnshaw’s boy. His name from what I’ve seen in reports is Silva Mexes.
6.) 04 Mar 2025 14:07:10
Blimey! His name is Gabriel and his father is any of Earnshaw, Oceaurill, Mexes or even Gabriel. ?.
7.) 04 Mar 2025 14:25:52
They changed his surname to Gabriel.
8.) 04 Mar 2025 18:10:07
Red Man, from what? Is that because it was discovered his Dad wasn’t one of the other names? ?.
9.) 05 Mar 2025 01:48:21
Fizz
From what I read they changed it from Oceaurill to Gabriel, apparently to make it easier for him and more marketable. He has been chased by Nike and Adidas for a big contract and the kid is only 14.
04 Mar 2025 02:06:09
If United were "broke" and near the PSR line they wouldn't have spent £29m on a new player in January.
I suspect SJR realised the decision made last summer on players and manager was a bad one and hence why there was a director and manager change. Looks to me like they are cutting costs hard for a leaner operation rather than because we are in financial trouble as such. We have made a loss in recent years so the Glazer leeches don't get their beloved dividend. We need to stop the losses, for PSR and so dividends can be sucked out again, therefore I would speculate that SJR was targeted with bringing the club back to profit as a priority. The interesting point will be whether SJR takes dividends when able to.
We need to sell certain players for financial reasons because unless we win the Europa, there will be no Euro football at all. However, need to sell to change the whole atmosphere in the club. Too many players don't seem committed or focussed. There is a youth team that seems to have players coming to an age when we can start to blood them. You can see with the Obi and Heaven moves we are looking forward to 2 or 3 years and it's about time we stopped the ridiculous Casemiro type buys (and yes I said it was wrong at the time) .
To do this we need a young strong coach who has a direction and we have one. At last someone stood up to Saint Rashford MBE, shifted Antony out and started to give a message on what it means to play for this club. I haven't felt we had any chance of changing the ridiculous Disney direction Woodward set, until now.
We spent years buying rubbish, non Man Utd type players, refusing to get rid of players like Martial for what seemed vain reasons, giving ridiculous new contracts almost as if someone panicked thinking a player might leave.
Looks to me like the ethos has changed and I recommend we sit this out because we have a chance of coming back if we do. Another change would see a lurch backwards, win a few games and fail again. As an example, I saw Ole had won 6 games in a row in Turkey and there are fans calling for his return. It's lunacy and needs calm heads not emotional ones at board level. Fingers crossed we have that.
1.) 04 Mar 2025 04:04:31
Dividends are not paid to selected shareholders, but to all. And, yes, of course SJR wants a profitable company and quite likely, if that happens, dividends will be resumed. Do you think profitable companies don't pay their investors a distribution of sorts? Investors invest either for dividends or capital growth or both.
The ethos has undoubtedly changed. We can only hope it's for the better.
2.) 04 Mar 2025 08:21:01
shawthing
The board decide whether to approve dividends and who controls the board? You are also not correct about dividends being paid to all, yes they can be but SJR and any shareholder can decline taking them.
Not sure of the company set up at City but do let me know what dividends they paid themselves, my understanding is zero
If SJR takes dividends then he is no better than the Glazers. Hundreds of redundancies so they can pay a dividend, hope that gives you a warm feeling inside.
3.) 04 Mar 2025 14:20:41
It's a public company. They can't just pay dividends to selected people. City is private. We have no idea what goes on behind the scenes and they're not accountable to a stock exchange. I wouldn't worry about it anyway. If the club returns to profitability, gets around its PSR problems, and starts producing competitive and exciting football teams I will not resent the investors taking dividends and nor should you.
4.) 04 Mar 2025 15:00:25
There is absolutely NO CHANCE Ineos were not aware of the financial situation at Manchester United. The group have two other clubs in their sporting network. During the due diligence process they would of had full access to the clubs financials, they would have legal advice from industry experts, infrastructure surveys, they would have had all the information about the financial and physical state of the clubs assets and yet they still invested $1.65bn for a 28% stake. They would if invested with their eyes open, knowing exactly what they were buying into. You don't spend $1.65bn without seeing a way to make money, they must of seen something in the club they they believed would generate an upside within 3-5 years. I would imagine it doesn't relate to football.
5.) 04 Mar 2025 16:10:25
They are resizing the club for no europe. Next year they will resize the club for league 2 and we will cost cut our way to league 2 winners in 4 years. Genius.
6.) 05 Mar 2025 02:06:34
shawthing
It is not a public company, public indicates plc. I believe they are a private limited company who file their accounts at Companies House.
You remain incorrect “They can't just pay dividends to selected people” . The board declare a dividend to shareholders, all shareholders, but my point was that a shareholder e. g. SJR does not have to take the dividend. That’s a fact. The money would stay within the club.
I have no issues on a business as a whole paying dividends, however, this is a football club, we have fans not customers, despite what they may tell us. The dividends in the £millions are how many ticket sales, how much in fathers buying kids the merchandise? We are not a supermarket where you can change without any loyalty. A football club is different to a standard business and whilst legally and technically it is the same, taking money out when it is needed, being enabled by redundancies, when the owners taking them are multi billionaires, is an insult to everyone who built the club. Every penny removed from the club and not used to improve it, is an insult to all who built it.
19 Feb 2025 13:51:57
The total net interest cost incurred since the Glazer family acquired the club via a leveraged buyout now exceeds £1 billion.
Let that sink in and that is just the interest.
The debt of £731m remains and there is also £300m of transfers to be paid. All these years dividends and other money has left the club and yet the Glazers are still sat there. Ratcliffe enabled them and that remains a massive issue.
1.) 19 Feb 2025 14:40:38
Red Man - The Glazers remain the biggest issue at the football Club. Forget managers and tactics and players, all these issues were instigated and exasperated by incompetence and bad decisions by those charged with running the Club.
Utd have just released their quarterly fingers, September - December 2024, it cost approximately £14.5m to sack EtH, and Ineos paid around £3m compensation to hire Dan Ashworth, then around £4 million in severance pay, totalling approximately £7m!
Ineos have probably cost the Club nearly £25m due to poor decisions, plus another £10m to appoint Ruben Amorim. Let’s not forget they spent in excess of £200m on new players in the summer for EtH, only to sack him a few months later then appoint a new manager with a completely different philosophy and style of play.
Even if you discount the crippling debt, no Club can be successful making so many poor, ill conceived decisions and wasting so much money.
The Glazers still own a controlling stake in Club and how much influence they had on these latest decisions nobody really knows. What we do know is that Ineos are working in collaboration with the Glazers and the decision making has arguably got worse and certainly not better!
Whilst some mistakes in football are inevitable the EtH and Dan Ashworth decisions surely raise eyebrows about Ineos ability to run the Club especially considering the Clubs precarious financial situation.
The rhetoric about “putting the Manchester back into Manchester United” and “walking to the right decision rather than running to the wrong one” all looks rather hollow now.
In my opinion a Glazer/ Ineos alliance will never be successful. Ineos record at Nice is underwhelming and they have not provided any evidence as yet that they are capable of getting the major decisions correct!
Due to over 20 years of Glazer financial miss management, The Club is just not in a financial position to absorb such consistent poor decisions.
We’ve gradually become a Club wining titles and challenging for all the top honours, to a Club battling for Champions League football and now we’re struggling to qualify for any European football and even relegation is not as absurd as it sounds.
I’ve never felt as low as a Man Utd as it appears we are now stuck with the Glazers for the considerable future and I have absolutely no confidence in Ineos or their ability to be a positive influence on the Club. We live in hope but that slowly erodes with each poor decision.
2.) 19 Feb 2025 16:16:44
If anyone has anything positive to say about the current owners and minority investors I would love to hear it. I would love to understand their strategy and roadmap to future success and how we can overcome the current financial situation!
Another thing that has hardly been discussed was Ineos promised a new structure, where they would determine the philosophy of the team, style of play and recruit accordingly.
Since the sacking of Dan Ashworth a new DoF has not been appointed and the new structure has not really been addressed or communicated, other than Ashworth’s responsibilities are now shared amongst Barada, Wilcox and Christopher Vivell, who I understand is still on a short term contract?
I really like Ruben Amorim, but there does not appear to be much logic behind his appointment, considering his philosophy and style of play. His system requires a lot of specialism, with the two outer CB’s, wings backs and two 10’s requiring a great deal of specificity and unique attributes required to perform the role to a high standard.
EtH received fierce criticism for targeting and recruiting previous players and it would appear we are going down the same route with Amorim. Its appears he is being relied upon to drive the recruitment of new players when the Club were supposedly moving away from this position. If Amorim ultimately fails, do we end up with wings backs and No10’s that we no longer need? There are not many other managers that predominantly favour a 3-4-3!
SDB also allegedly conducted a strategic review of the Club, however the result of this was never specifically communicated or shared with the fans. Weeks later they extended EtH’s contract, whilst at the same time were busy interviewing every other semi competent manager in Europe? There does not appear to be much evidence of strategy or competence from the new incumbents?
I still do not see any evidence of a clear structure or decisive leadership at the Club. Yes changes have been made but the same mistakes are still occurring, all against the backdrop of significant financial restraints.
I firmly believe all talk of the manager, tactics and the players is redundant until there is a clear structure in place with defined responsibilities and strong, decisive leadership, and a better framework in place in order to make well reasoned and sound decisions.
3.) 19 Feb 2025 17:01:38
And they have been in place over 13 months DLIB and we are all none the wiser. In fact, we seem to be more chaotic and even more incompetent on and off the field.
4.) 19 Feb 2025 18:07:03
Interesting article on Ashworth. He wanted Thomas Frank or Marco Silva and PL experience managers to replace eth and was totally against the idea of Amorim and change of formation and got sacked for it.
Then the club supposedly leaked bs stuff about him wanting Southgate to get the fans on board and brush it away knowing how Southgate was disliked by the fanbase. If its true its quite poor of them.
25 Jan 2025 06:31:08
Garnacho
I can see there is not universal support on here for him, some say sell, some Ed's even say he isn't very good. I think there is more to it and we may be seeing clever management.
It is a change point in his career, he doesn't seem to have taken the step up his talent indicated he would, and his attitude not as focussed as previously. Players around this age either step up or don't achieve the level they should. I suspect RA has seen where he is, that he wasn't developing and has challenged him, it actually could be quite smart and cute by the manager. The threat of being sold to focus his mind and RA has, in my opinion, challenged him. How he reacts will be monitored.
I would have said never sell him, only 20 with high potential, but I also think it is that point where he either steps up or will disappoint us. It's a massive decision, they must get it right because watching him turn in to a worldie somewhere else will be disgraceful.
1.) 25 Jan 2025 10:47:56
If we improve without him who cares what he does elsewhere.
Today's a really poor mentality imo.
If we improve when he goes I'd like him to do well elsewhere. That way everybody is a winner.
13 Apr 2025 08:01:26
Shappy
Hojland elite and great, words I don’t associate with the player I see.
Then you say “his current skill set is very much suited to playing on the shoulder of the last man and making runs into the channels, using his pace to get away from his man and finishing well past the keeper. ”. That sounds like fantasy description from a computer game to be quite frank. We never see him doing it.
Hojland lacks confidence right now but has glaring inadequacies and we are not seeing improvements. It was said he had a very big ego when he arrived, maybe he reads that it isn’t his fault, just the way he being asked to play, so it’s not him. Oh woe is me the rest of the team are not putting chances on a plate for me. That said they did on Thursday and he totally fluffed it, miss hit it didn’t even put it on target.
Fact is Shappy, Harry came on up front and looked more dangerous in 10 minutes than Hojland looked all season. Even Zirkzee created more space for himself. I think we have to face it that Hojland may not be United standard, the shirt maybe too much and he may do better in a different league.
28 Feb 2025 01:58:27
Bolger
You said ask the Glazers where all the money is from the SJR share purchase. In their bank accounts along with every other cent they made and every other cent from before their father bought the club. They have never put one single cent into the club and are not going to now. The SJR deal brokering cost £30m so the Glazers could pocket over £1Bn, the leeches didn’t even pay that, they stuck it on the club, so the club paid for the transaction. £30m.
28 Feb 2025 01:52:06
shawthing
They are prohibited from taking dividends at the moment because of accounting rules. It is not because the Glazers got all that money from SJR share purchase and feel they don’t need the money.
Question is with SJR cuts to bring the club back to profit, whether, at the first moment when the leeches can take dividends, will they take them and will SJR take them?
05 Jan 2025 13:27:03
Probably years of writing RM in short for me, (whilst having a shout ? at me) that’s in their auto spelling.
29 Oct 2024 06:45:27
People seem to miss that we have a high potential Young athletic left wing back who may benefit from this change of formation, Harry Amass.
19 Apr 2025 12:40:49
Shappy
Bruno surrendered possession very regularly in dangerous positions, caused pressure on us, free kicks, goals against so I cannot agree he was “never the problem”.
19 Apr 2025 12:38:22
Has to be said it was rather amusing to see the very arrogant Madrid dumped out.
19 Apr 2025 10:34:18
Dear me, Utd road
the 1984 home game against Maradona’s Barcelona was one of the greatest Old Trafford nights, yet we didn’t win the cup. Yes frustrated that we didn’t go on, but I will never forget that night stood in the Stretford End. Thursday will be similar. I still get that tingle of excitement 41 years later when I see the replay of Stapleton scoring. Same will go for Harry.
18 Apr 2025 13:09:48
I was one who did and have changed my position. That mainly has come from Bruno not giving the ball away like he used to. A masterclass in coaching from RA seems to have improved Bruno notably.
15 Apr 2025 18:27:51
Angel
Ability absolutely, Amorim is a very exciting young technically excellent coach. An older more experienced one in ETH caved in and gave up his principles. Amorim hasn’t.