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05 May 2024 18:09:44
Maguire injured in training and out for 3 weeks apparently. Another training injury.
1.) 05 May 2024 18:20:58
I think he's been playing injured for quite some time.
2.) 05 May 2024 18:21:55
Just posted that. Surely someone has to be looking at our training methods, the amount of muscle injuries is a total joke.
3.) 05 May 2024 20:06:39
Does anyone remember that up until a recent point, the length and type of injury was never disclosed?
And now the media machine is in overdrive, things have become a lot more detailed ?.
4.) 06 May 2024 07:13:09
Might mean that Louis Jackson gets his chance.
5.) 06 May 2024 11:40:33
Other clubs have suffered similar injury issues when they have had a manager trying to introduce a high energy pressing style.
The thought is that you need to increase the players fitness and stamina and the only way to do that is to train at a high level over a long period of time to raise base level fitness.
Teams that have done this have tended to suffer a season of excessive injuries, before the players were conditioned to have the stamina and base fitness required to play a high pressing style.
Given EtH's comments at the start of the season of wanting to turn us into the best transitional team in the world, along with occasional comments about the intensity of training, and our injuries this season it does sound like we are training to raise base fitness and stamina of the squad, which will be contributing to the injuries.
If we are to commit to a high energy, transitional style then these injuries are just part of the growing pains that we will have to endure to get there.
Hopefully next season then players will be better conditioned because of this season and less prone to injuries, while those not suited to that style should hopefully be moved on and replaced with players suited to that style.
Of course that depends on whether the manager will be here next season and that style is the style the new owners/ club structure wants us to play moving forward.
From the outside looking in it looks like EtH tried to introduce this style at the start of last season, but quickly realised he didn't have the players to play it, so he went more pragmatic. Over the summer he looked to make changes to the squad and decided to commit to this style of play. According to the man himself part of his remit when he was hired was to impart this style of play on the squad. Last season they accepted the limitations and a more pragmatic approach, but with the intention of planning for and moving towards this direction this season.
EtH seems to have just followed through with the plan agreed between him and the club. He's taking the short term pain on the chin this season with a view on the long term gains.
It would be a shame if he doesn't get the chance to see through these plans, but if the new club structure doesn't align with this direction then it's best to end things sooner rather than later.
Personally as a fan I prefer a higher energy more transitional style over a slower possession based approach. I feel it's more entertaining to watch and is more closely aligned to the style of play I associate with Manchester United.
Yet that is just my opinion, and ultimately it is the opinion of the new owners and the new people being put in key positions at the club that will ultimately decide the direction of the club. My job as a supporter isn't to fight against it if they don't do what I want, but to support the club in this new direction. Whatever that may be.
26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.
1.) 27 Apr 2024 16:02:51
INEOS will be upgrading the men's section of Carrington this summer. Much welcome changes.
2.) 28 Apr 2024 11:25:30
I love these kinds of rumours, and it's a shame we don't see more of them on here anymore.
I think it's clear there will be big changes at the club over the next decade or more.
SJR has not invested a huge amount of money (with it likely that he will invest more in the future) in order to keep things as they are.
I think he sees Manchester United as his legacy, his chance to leave an indelible mark on the city he grew up in. Can he be the man who puts Manchester United back on our perch.
The rumours and from what he's said openly all sound great. Focus on youth and developing players, something that should be synonymous with the club. Focus on an entertaining style of play, again something that has been a big part of our history. Looking to redevelop Old Trafford and the surrounding area. To breathe new life into Manchester and create a stadium and facilities that are not just the envy of the rest of the country, but also that can support and reconnect the club with the local area. Somewhere for people to gather as a community, a place that offers employment opportunities, improvements in infrastructure and possibly even housing.
The club appears to be focused on buying up space around the stadium, and that almost certainly means they are gearing towards some form of redevelopment of the area. While the recent news of a task force being put together to look at and explore opportunities around the stadium just confirms this.
Personally I'd like to see a Manchester United development built up. With ideally a new stadium that will be the biggest and best in the country, a second smaller stadium for the women and youth teams to play at, hotels, food outlets, a rebuilt museum, a community centre, shops, and attractions. With well integrated sustainable infrastructure, roads, rail etc.
Somewhere for fans to gather not just for hours before and after matches, but for youth and women's games, for special events and weekly events. Somewhere that can be the hub of the Manchester United community.
Hopefully that or something closer to that is what we get. How we get there I don't know, but I have faith that SJR will push to get us something like that.
3.) 30 Apr 2024 12:09:25
heres another 1 shappy- for quite some time we always parked in akp grounds rear of the ticket office and canal. Earlier this year got told off the attendants that "man utd had taken keys back " and stopped it and the depot from being used . Large plot in very prominent position.
11 Mar 2024 20:38:58
Reports say Amad has deleted all mention of his club connection from his social media. Another player hacked off, likely because he has got virtually zero minutes. Looked to have a nice left foot.
1.) 11 Mar 2024 22:25:49
Another unusual signing of the Ole era.
2.) 12 Mar 2024 05:58:01
Wazza
Big money for an unknown kid. But he hasn’t even been given minutes from Sub, why not, instead of Antony. Now another player that looks like he has been ostracised by ETH, whose value will now plummet because of this. Someone needs to ask if ETH is handling these situations right. Bruno, Rashford and Antony don’t have to play well, get time. Now ETH has pushed another nose out of joint by the look of it. Good enough not good enough but the kid hasn’t been given anything.
3.) 12 Mar 2024 07:07:33
Out of curiosity did you see him play at forest in the cup? Looked a million miles off the required level in that 25 minutes! I’m not sure why the manager is getting stuck for a ridiculous priced signing he didn’t make not getting minutes when he sees him every day and it appears Forson has jumped above him!
4.) 12 Mar 2024 07:29:53
He has been given minutes.
How do you know this is a falling out with the manager, rather than Diallo now performing well in training?
Hasn’t ETH dropped Antony to give your beloved Garnacho that position, with the latter starting something like 25 games in a row
This pesty manager, I really wish he’d give one or two teenagers a prolonged run in the team….
5.) 12 Mar 2024 07:30:18
Apparently that's not quite right, he's deactivated his social media for Ramadan.
Be careful which reports you read and remember not to jump to conclusions.
6.) 12 Mar 2024 08:53:44
He has explained that decision by saying: “I deactivated my social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan, it’s a holy month for me and social media is a place where there are bad things to see during fasting. Stop the hatred, there’s nothing wrong with what I did. ”.
7.) 12 Mar 2024 10:35:46
He deleted Utd related stuff and left those from Sunderland. I know we play some haram football under ten Hag but come on, read between the lines. I get his frustration though. I too would be fuming if Antony was playing more minutes than me, and I am not even a professional footballer.
8.) 12 Mar 2024 10:51:40
Quick to jump on absolutely anything to have a go at the club, maybe take a step back and think before you post. The press make enough stuff up without stirring it up ourselves, I guess they got what they wanted though if people believed it.
9.) 12 Mar 2024 14:24:54
He doesn't get a game because he's no better than what we have already.
Absolute waste of money!
40 million Euros for a player that made 5 first team apperances and currently earns about 35 grand a week.
This just about sums United up really.
10.) 12 Mar 2024 14:48:52
Of course its ETH fault, everything is his fault. Posters here know more than the manager who spends 6 days a week with the players.
11.) 12 Mar 2024 15:53:19
Nice to see some humility from Red Man with an admission of getting it very wrong!
On an unrelated matter, I recently saw ETH walking down the street and at the bottom of the road he had the temerity to turn right, can you believe that? clearly this shows a complete unsuitability to be allowed to walk outside as all the experts know you should always turn left at the bottom of a road.
12.) 12 Mar 2024 19:06:07
IWOTB,
It reminds me of my mates in WhatsApp groups who only message when we are losing, as soon as we are winning I hear nothing, nobody seems to be able to celebrate wins anymore, just get annoyed about defeats.
13.) 12 Mar 2024 20:09:08
I want our trophy back
If I was wrong then I hold my hands up
However, sounds an unusual action especially if he left the Sunderland information in. Looks to me like he was frustrated and reacted, but see what happens to him and see what information comes out.
14.) 12 Mar 2024 22:09:44
Red Man, he has clearly stated that he has deactivated his social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan.
The point is though, you seem to just scour the media purely to seek negative stories which you then jump on here to use as a stick to beat every aspect of the club with. Leaving aside the issue of perhaps looking to find some correlation of the truth or otherwise of these usually spurious and nonsensical stories, it has to be said you seem to have lost all sense of even handedness and fair mindedness towards anything related to the club, yet you try and present yourself as some form of premier supporter.
15.) 12 Mar 2024 22:14:39
Giggs to Sheringham, yes mate, you are spot on. When we win almost no posts, see after Everton game.
If we lose it goes mental with dozens of posts essentially repeating the same thing over and over.
16.) 13 Mar 2024 10:31:57
Redman - look at what this player just did.
Everyone - the guy gave a clear explanation, it’s nothing.
Redman - *staring at photo of Amad’s nice left foot* still seems fishy to me.
17.) 13 Mar 2024 18:39:10
I want our trophy back
Let’s see as the season comes to a close. I will say something about what I see, especially when the clowns at the club have made such a mess.
Also, I won’t bother posting about it, sure you can read about Season Ticket holders in Section 122.
Danny, well they told me it was Amads left foot I was looking at….
10 Feb 2024 08:53:18
We are apparently watching young players in Argentina, probably along with other clubs. The names mentioned are Franco Mastantuono, Aaron Anselmino, Ian Subiabre and Tomas Parmo.
1.) 10 Feb 2024 17:23:12
This makes total sense and assume we have been doing this all along just not acting on many . I think we were in for alveres of City.
We need to be exploring all markets for the best value young players.
2.) 13 Feb 2024 21:20:38
I think we would all applaud this kind of policy, however these youngsters have to come into an environment where they can develop, fulfil their potential and have a route to the first team
Without that in place, these players will just be wasting their time coming to us.
15 Dec 2023 07:02:04
Rumours backed by a photo are circulating that after being ill for the Bayern game, Rashford was partying in London with Sancho. Rumours also of a £180m bid for Rashford from Saudi.
Sell or keep? Sell Rashford for me.
1.) 15 Dec 2023 07:36:51
180 million for Rashford, definitely sell him.
2.) 15 Dec 2023 08:07:51
sell, no brainer.
3.) 15 Dec 2023 08:09:50
Take 180 million as long as sancho is included, (and Martial)
4.) 15 Dec 2023 08:10:12
Its bs photo redman. its from the summer. People just being toxic/ evil spreading false stuff on social media.
5.) 15 Dec 2023 08:32:05
I would sell the whole squad for about £180m lol apart from Mainoo and Garnacho.
6.) 15 Dec 2023 08:38:38
Social media, absolutely toxic.
7.) 15 Dec 2023 09:55:26
Pretty sure the photos aren't from when they are suggesting they are.
Regardless, Rashford is a player who splits opinion. On form he is our best player. He's a Mancunian, an academy lad and everything the club should stand for.
The only real issue seems to be his form is streaky. Although there does seem to be some people who took a dislike to him for his work making sure poor kids didn't starve, yet if you hold that against him then it says a lot more about you as a person than him.
His form is a problem only when you are reliant on him to be your major source of goals.
If we had a 30 goal a season striker, and a 20 goal a season right winger then it really wouldn't make a huge difference whether Rashford had a 15 goal season or a 30 goal season.
I'd also imagine his form would be a lot less streaky when he's playing in a team with quality players around him. The opposition wouldn't be able to double up on him like they do currently. Which would give him more time and space on the ball. Also you'd imagine the quality of chances he'd be presented with would increase with better players. Both factors leading to Rashford having more chances to score, and chances of a higher quality. Which would probably lead to him scoring more consistently.
The problem isn't that Rashford isn't good enough, it's that he is in a team that isn't good enough.
All that said, if someone came in with 180m then I think the club would have to sell him. With Garnacho coming through on the left, then the bulk of that money could be used to rebuild the rest of the side. If that did happen hopefully we'd be successful in spending that money like Liverpool were when selling Coutinho to fund players like Alisson and VvD, rather than when Spurs spunked the Bale money up against the wall, buying mostly flops.
8.) 15 Dec 2023 11:24:27
Sad gullible fools actually believe this sort of garbage.
But a lot of our own fans look for the poison and believe it when it suits them and revel in it. Very sad.
9.) 15 Dec 2023 12:11:57
Shappy - he does split opinion but would argue that he is our best player on form, as he is never on form for long enough periods: it doesn't matter if he is a mancunian either, best, law, charlton, rooney, cantona and so on!
his problem is workrate and application -he wants left wing but won't cross/ pass tries to beat the same man twice and loses the ball - then walks back or if his teamates are lucky, slowly trots. He has got ability but doesn't seem happy to put in the work to let it shine.
Agree there are plenty around him the same but despite having less ability/ skill levels albeit in a different area of the pitch he could learn a lot about applying his skillset from maguire. There is obviously uncertainty throughout the club and that is from the top to the playing side but he is 26 a senior pro and international player who should be doing better by far.
there are others to be sold before him but if, if the offers came in at the figures mooted the club should accept. ps very much doubt it though.
10.) 15 Dec 2023 14:38:01
Would take £18m for Rashford currently.
11.) 15 Dec 2023 14:44:26
I would sell him regardless of the what money is offered.
Get rid.
12.) 15 Dec 2023 15:10:58
Heard a rumour wednesday evening before the newcastle match that they are seriously interested in rashford: this was off a mag with a box at st james - wouldn't think so though?
13.) 15 Dec 2023 18:20:53
I’d take 18p at this moment in time.
14.) 15 Dec 2023 22:40:56
Hard for people to accept, but isn’t good enough despite how much people want him to be. Sell at the going rate, but definitely sell.
15.) 16 Dec 2023 07:44:45
Wow Shappy, he was never our best player, and even when he does score, he still is too selfish, slow to pass, doesn't defend and what not, but he covers it with goals. I remember watching a game few years ago, where he repeatedly destroys our attacks by not passing or not passing on time. Few years later it is all the same.
I don't believe anyone would offer that kind of money for him, but i'd sell him for 1/ 3 of that.
16.) 16 Dec 2023 15:10:13
He is 26 now, on a rumoured £300k a year and stopped scoring regularly in February, sounds like a United player to me, why would we sell.
17.) 16 Dec 2023 15:32:11
He wasn’t. The account that posted it admitted that it was fake.
18.) 17 Dec 2023 07:20:42
Let's just hate on rash even if its bs. gives some here reason to vent lol.
19.) 17 Dec 2023 08:20:40
His ex girlfriend is in the pictures I saw so clearly not from the other night, people will believe anything.
20.) 17 Dec 2023 10:10:34
GDS
I am no social media expert but I did read in the papers a couple of weeks ago that he was back with said girlfriend, hired a restaurant for a meal. True or fake picture, I would still sell him. Anyone who doesn’t give 100% for that shirt deliberately needs selling.
21.) 17 Dec 2023 11:14:17
I wouldn't be surprised by anything at all from Saudi. Maybe if Liverpool knock back the Salah approach again Rash will be the next target, who knows.
I'm more surprised (or maybe I shouldn't be by now) that people have an interest in what players do with their free time, let alone when they're from 6 months ago.
22.) 17 Dec 2023 12:55:41
Yes Rashford is back with his former finance.
He also continues to be a little pleb off the pitch.
23.) 17 Dec 2023 13:51:27
Oh that’s good news, hopefully he will settle back down now then, always better when players have sorted out their personal lives.
24.) 19 Dec 2023 15:42:09
No idea what's going on with rashford but always comes across as a lovely fella who did the business last year.
He more than deserves a chance to put it right. No one knows what's going on with him.
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07 Sep 2024 07:55:06
Two cups, is that enough at United?
Ten Hag has used the two cups as a badge of honour and they are good to have, but is it enough? It reminded me of Ron Atkinsons era, our hopes grew on the cups as it did before we kicked a ball this season, yet it was to be Champions that we wanted then and that and Champions League success must be our aim now.
Big Ron had two FA Cup wins (and five successive top four league finishes) but the 86-87 season began poorly with three successive defeats before being dismissed as manager two days after a 4-1 exit at the hands of Southampton in the League Cup.
Winning cups isn't enough and ETH needs to stop looking backwards and waving two cups and realising cohesive displays and wins must now come. Interesting Southampton next for ETH and he must win that convincingly and then win games showing a pattern of play otherwise you have to think after the poor Liverpool display the end maybe nigh as it was for Big Ron.
1.) 07 Sep 2024 08:45:40
I'd rather a manager came, focused and played his first team in the league.
And during the cup games he played his second squad.
I personally do not care if we win another europa league or league cup
I'd rather we first be a consistent give in for top 4.
2.) 07 Sep 2024 09:06:54
Redman
ETH never said that's our only ambition. He said we have higher ambitions and rubs winning two cups into people face who are going after him in the media. I agree with you we have to perform a lot better but don't agree at all he must win convincingly at Southampton but a win is required. Have not seen Southampton play so no idea what they are like.
After we sacked Atkinson and we hired Fergie we finished 11th, 2nd, 13th, 8th, 6th, 2nd, with a sprinkle of a FA cup win in 90 that some believe saved Fergie his job.
It took Fergie 7 years to win the league with a generational group coming through the academy that were better than Garna and Mainoo. Don't get me wrong they are good young players but they are not giggs and scholes and hard for me to see another two like them but hope I am wrong.
He would have been sacked in this day and age with the volume of toxicity and noise on social media and who knows what then. Give it 10 league games and let's see where we are.
3.) 07 Sep 2024 09:39:44
backpass,
I don't agree on Europa league and FA Cup is special imo both are Big trophies to win and also gives you some optimism lol going into the next season given they are so late in the season. Europa also ensures automatic qualification for CL.
I do agree about resting as many first 11 players when you can in domestic cups but he seems to take all competitions very serious. Barnsley at home should allow us to rest some players unless you are trying to get them match fit.
4.) 07 Sep 2024 10:17:21
Ahmad
ETH is using two trophies as a stick to beat back the media yet whilst it’s good to have them he needs to realise two trophies are not enough and that was my point. I think Southampton and Palace are must win games if we are to make top four. We must see progression in the pattern of play.
When you see SJR head in hands and Schmeichels story about how upset SAF was, the waving of two trophies won’t last long.
See where we are at 10 games is one position but lose the next two and I can’t see him lasting much longer. Not when Tuchel is sat doing nothing (to my knowledge)
5.) 07 Sep 2024 10:43:38
I find it funny that a lot of the people who berate EtH are the same one's who were Mourinho's biggest supporters.
Yet when we step back and look at them there isn't a great deal of difference between the two.
Both won two cups, both repeatedly use/ used that as evidence that they have done well.
Both were/ are surly with the press and didn't/ don't come across great in the media.
Both play/ played with a inconsistent/ unattractive style of play.
Both stubborn about their tactics and insistent on having control.
Both disciplinarians.
Both preferred to sign former players.
Both have had falling outs with players in the squad.
Lots of parallels between them to be honest.
The main differences I see are that EtH has given more youth players a chance (and been successful/ consistent in giving them game time), and he is at least trying to play a more attacking style of play (even if it's not quite clicking) .
Other than that there probably isn't a great deal of difference between the two of them.
So I do find it amusing to see those posters who defended Jose, now berating EtH for the same things they defended Jose from ???.
6.) 07 Sep 2024 11:40:29
???shappy can you name anybody on here who didn't want Jose sacked in his 3rd year?
Everybody realised it was wrong and he had no hope.
Jose did not get most the players he wanted out or in the dame cannot be said of the bloke who is our manager now.
Daft compressions to make. Most on here have supported eth until the came to the same conclusion as they did with Jose.
You yourself thought ole should be kept and pushed and made dozens of essays defending him until you turned. Then the penny dropped with even you.
This manager fella is wrong for the club. He is not a man to be trusted with the head coach role. You will turn and say the same as you always do in the end.
7.) 07 Sep 2024 11:57:55
ETH is out of his depth. Always has been at United. He doesn't have an elite coaching academy (Ajax) behind him in a second rate league any more. His lack of flexibility and strategy has been found out. It will never, ever, change under him.
Supporters are motivated by great managers. I genuinely cannot remember a time that ETH has made me feel excited with his words or actions. If that resonates in the playing squad then his P45 cannot come soon enough.
8.) 07 Sep 2024 12:08:05
Shappy. Which former players did Mourinho sign? Matic is the obvious one, and Lukaku made three appearances under Mourinho before joining Everton. Unless there are more I’m forgetting, I don’t think it’s fair to say that Mourinho preferred to sign players that he’d already worked with.
9.) 07 Sep 2024 12:10:14
Shappy
Remind us who the club bought for Mourinho in his last transfer window and what the club have spent for ETh? I saw a list of over €700m bought for ETH and still we turn out disjointed rubbish. It has to stop now, Southampton is a must win, so is Palace and we must see a pattern. No more excuses.
10.) 07 Sep 2024 12:10:20
BrD.
I think he should get a few more games I think he might even get more than a few.
Ineos decided to keep him after they couldn't convince others to take the job. They don't want him but couldn't get who they want so they were stuck.
Evey business lives amd dies on their recruitment.
They don't want eth and to be honest I don't care who they want because I don't have to work with them or manage them.
But they need their man in whomever that is.
11.) 07 Sep 2024 12:50:48
I’m loving this. Three games in and the banter is ramping up beautifully. It’s going to be a great year.
However we should 100% not be resting any players at the moment regardless of the games. ETH and his supporters have been banging on about getting the team match fit and up to speed with playing style and they need it!
Otherwise the old “consistent lineup” excuse will be getting flogged to death.
Once the team is playing as they should and consistently, then they can have a rest. Poor loves.
12.) 07 Sep 2024 13:47:18
ETH has never said 2 cups was good enough, but it is at least better than the 0 cups that Arsenal have won.
ETH consistently says that he goes out to win every game.
One thing that is extremely important at United, for financial reasons if nothing else, is participation in one of th top 2 European trophies. If we're not going to get into the top 4 in the league then winning the FA Cup gets us into the Europa, and winning the Europa gets us into the ECL. The further we progress in each competition brings a financial reward.
The goals for the club are not set by ETH but by club management. ETH is there to fulfill their aspirations. SJR was clear that there was a lot to do, that we're hampered by PSR, and it would take more than one abbreviated summer window to fix the problems at the club. There is a clear path that they're following to give the manager the best chance of getting back to the top, but they surely know that 12 years+ of inept transfer and retention policy is still a hindrance to the club achieving the level of consistency required too challenge for the league.
We all agree that ETH has made some big mistakes, but we do not know the extent to which the previous management team was complicit. They should never have endorsed the purchases of Antony and Mount. Who even came up with the latter? . These were very big risks. But, on other side, we have to take into account the unattractiveness of Man Utd as a destination for top players given our poor recent history and the disrespect our management and ownership had justly earned for themselves.
ETH will not be given an indefinite amount of time. Performances will have to show a clear arc of improvement. Notwithstanding the negative results this season, there have been signs of improvement. There are 3 areas that I'm sure will be receiving intense work. 1. Conversion rate. 2. Closing out games 3. DM. Whatever good work we have been doing has been undone far too frequently by collapses in these areas. I still believe that the key to fixing all of these areas is a psychological.
13.) 07 Sep 2024 14:41:02
redman
I recommend that go transfermarkt and the numbers are there for you and just add them.
We Have spend a total net 478 million euros under ETH or approx 400 mill pounds. This is not bs numberi made up. You don't get to post outlandish numbers to suit our argument.
Its similar to lazy journos, why bother read their stuff that is baseless and poorly researched. If we had spent 700 mill as you say, the extra 230 would have landed us Neves, Branthwaite, Toney and Olise and we would probably contend the league title. It not just rounding up a million here or there mate.
The rest who make statements about not right, clueless would have probably said the same about Fergie finishing 13th in his 3rd season. whatever I say.
Whilst you are at it do the rest of top 6 and post the numbers. Then let's have a conversation about are we so outlandishly outspending the rest to fix what's needs fixing.
Unfortunately we don't have the luxury of academy players going for 20/ 30/ 40 mill having hardly kicked a ball for the first team and that itself tells you about the state of the club. We struggle to get that for many of first 13 players barring a few lol.
BRD
How is ajax doing with their elite coaching academy atm or since eth left if I may ask. Before you bring "up oh they sold lots of players" they have been doing that for 30 years in case you missed it.
The Dutch, Portugese, belgian, French league are a feeder league for the top leagues in Europe which is Italy, Spain. England, Germany. Only change recently is PSG who seem to be net buyer.
14.) 07 Sep 2024 14:44:14
INEOS are convinced they have the right man, which is a worry in itself but guess we've got to roll with it until they think otherwise. There's an awful lot of experience above him now, I'd like to think they know what they're talking about, just wish it was an easier watch.
15.) 07 Sep 2024 15:32:48
I still think this could be "the guy". But he certainly needs to show a much higher level this year. We are hopeful that ugarte is the missing link in midfield. That hoyland grows into the striker that he has shown glimpses of. That rashford either starts to get back to his best, or is moved to the bench for better players. That de ligt and yoro take our defense to another level. That luke shaw somehow miraculously stays fit for more than 25% of the season.
I don't think we have the squad yet to challenge, and with key injuries to ugarte, mainoo, hoylung, shaw we could be seriously lacking in these areas. But maybe ten hag is destined to be the guy before the guy. He will have seen us through a period of mass clear out, which we desperately needed. His legacy could be setting up the next manager for success, I still expect another 2 years of clear out and recruiting for this squad. Not sure EtH will make it that far.
16.) 07 Sep 2024 15:36:08
Keefy
I would play eriksen, amas, wheatley, antony, collyers and even our reserve goalie vs barnsley. Guys like Mainoo, dalot, martinez need a rest the rest of these guys need some game time.
I agree it will be a year full of debate, disagreement and surprises:) never a dull day as a united supporter. i am optimistic as usual:) lost a bundle on us vs pool. bet win and the draw and did not see us losing.
17.) 07 Sep 2024 16:12:52
Ahmad a net 480m? Is o e way of looking at a figure but how much has the outlay on transfer fees been?
That's of course before all the various fees add ons and taxes are counted in.
If the 480m is the numbers after sales? (and I'm not sure if that's what your saying) then he has spent what redman said.
18.) 07 Sep 2024 19:16:17
FA cup gives some optimism if you finish in the top 3 imo. Not 8th.
The fact is because it was City, he kept his job. If it was anyone barring City, Arsenal or Liverpool in the final he would have been sacked because we would have been expected to win. Beating anyone of them 3 in the final saved his job and it’s totally wrong. He should have gone no matter what.
If you don’t believe me, work it out for yourself. He was due to be sacked after the FA cup final there was noise around his sacking a couple of days before, now imagine we were playing Coventry in the final. The noise would still be there and he would still have been expected to win, but because it was City they kept him.
It’s a shambles how they worked it out.
19.) 07 Sep 2024 20:08:10
Liverpool fan here.
Two cups in two years is not to be sniffed at. However, the quality of football and clear lack of identity under Ten Hag is not something united fans should accept imo.
20.) 07 Sep 2024 20:28:26
Good posts Shaw and DB.
21.) 07 Sep 2024 21:16:03
2 cups is not enough if you want to judge the last 2 seasons on the fact he won the cups alone your suggesting we judge 2 full seasons on 12 games.
Each cup run was 6 games which means your suggesting as long as ten hag wins 1 game every 2 months he should be safe.
22.) 07 Sep 2024 23:11:14
You enter 4 comps if your in Europe. Winning any is a good thing but does not always mean you have had a good season or are a particularly good team. They are considered 2nd rate prizes nowadays. Not so much the EL but the domestic comps by many, maybe even most. That's not to belittle winning them it's just the way the epl and cl are now the elite comps. Followed by the EL.
We want to be back competing at the top table ASAP.
23.) 07 Sep 2024 23:53:49
And whilst the cups are good to win they are essentially luck of the draw. Yes you have to win the games but they not at the same level as the league or CL.
In my very humble and uneducated opinion.
24.) 08 Sep 2024 07:34:35
Ahmad
You answered your own question. Fact remains ETH had one good season (results wise) simply because Rashford had an outlier season. Rashford’s form masked ETH’s shortcomings.
A further reason Ajax collapsed (certainly wasn’t ETH leaving) was the loss of Overmars (regardless of reasons), who at time was highly regarded as a DoF.
I really don’t know why people defend ETH beyond the we can’t keep turning managers over argument - which is nothing to do with ETH’s qualities. Just means he’s keeping it by default. Though Tuchel turning job down is football’s worst secret.
ETH has one thing going for him. Luck in Cup draws. He rarely gets a tough draw. So if he can keep out of his own way we may scramble another Caracow Cup.
Yay.
25.) 08 Sep 2024 07:35:11
Ahmad
I read the list of players bought and it was over EUR700M. You quote net after sales but fact is we have added EUR700m worth to the team. Net makes it sound less but add €700m of players and yet we still have a poor start to the season. It totally must improve quickly now.
26.) 08 Sep 2024 08:39:42
Shappy
Wonder why you haven’t done the comparison of what has been bought for ETH and Mourinho’s final transfer window?
27.) 08 Sep 2024 09:22:39
Some just don't understand redman.
28.) 08 Sep 2024 10:01:54
redman
If you want to go by that principle here is the spend levels from summer of 2022 till past summer.
1. United Spend 640 Mill
2. Arsenal 530 mill
3, City 435 mill
4. Spurs 600 mill
5. Liverpool 360 mill
6. Newcastle 406 mill
7. Villa 380 mill
8. Chelsea 1.32 bill
We finished 6th in 2021/ 2022 season on 58 points, city winning it on 93 points by a point from Liverpool. We were 13 points off 4th place which was spurs and 11 points off arsenal who were 5th, Chelsea 3rd on 74 points. Chelsea spend is just wild given where they were.
This is our first summer under new recruitment and leadership team and we have played 3 games.
If you exclude this past summer, arsenal, city actually outspend us in eth first 2 years and Liverpool were close to our spend levels. The numbers show a gap when you add this past summer given we spend again to buy 5 players and those 3 did not spend much this past window. Judge the spend and progression end of this season when these players actually play a whole year and not after 3 games.
Finally everyone is in a different place in terms of rebuilding and structure around their manager and quality of recruitment. Some like city just kept adding to what was already a great team and Liverpool making wholesale changes to their midfield and front line by replacing all the players besides salah.
The Top 3 have had managers in place for much longer who shaped their squads starting much earlier. Slot has inherited a Klop squad and that went through a complete rebuild and hence only bought chiesa for nothing and the goalie who is really good imo but not in their current squad.
29.) 08 Sep 2024 12:53:02
Ahmad
Spent the most, now £640m up from what you said before. I read a list with over €700M. finished 8th, started this season badly. He must improve quickly. The rest of the post looks like trying to find what aboutery for ETH.
Shappy
Still waiting….
30.) 08 Sep 2024 13:26:42
Some just don't agree with you and Redman Ken ?.
31.) 08 Sep 2024 14:48:47
Angel we spent more than 480m he is talking nonsense. You can't dispute transfer fees they are a matter of fact not opinion but I appreciate your input.
It's not an opinion it's just a small matter of basic affing numbers together.
United have outspent City comfortably o er the past 5 or 6 seasons.
32.) 08 Sep 2024 15:16:10
I'm with dodgy on this.
The man stays, he is the man.
I will not change my mind.
33.) 08 Sep 2024 19:29:25
I'm only joking ken, I know the craic. A lot of money spent. But the figures are completely ridiculous. We did the majority of that spending under the stewardship of the glazers. And by that metric alone, the fees were incredibly over priced, and poor signings were made too.
I do not put that on the manager alone.
34.) 09 Sep 2024 06:24:27
Angel
The manager isn’t solely responsible for the signings however when we are buying ex Ajax players like Antony for £85m he has to have had a massive influence. The manager has yet to get a tune of any sort out of a team which has €700m injected into it, that must change.
35.) 09 Sep 2024 13:18:50
Redman
640 euros gross and we have sold about 160 mill.
Tumble
use a calculator a bit of google search if it helps you but those are the numbers.
The net is the real number as quite a bit of it is replacing players who are gone either at the end of their contracts or replacing players we sold. Our bench still looks weak when we have a few injuries. we had Maguire, Evans, collyers and eriksen as bench as our only options for the midfield or defense vs Liverpool is not exactly wow.
If it suits the eth out brigade use whatever numbers your heart pleases to make an argument. why not just go with a billion. its more impactful.
36.) 09 Sep 2024 16:09:46
Ahmad you are not dumb when it comes to business.
The outlay on players has been circa 700m
The number after sales of players does not just come off the top of that number. The accounting will not be aligned and the accounts do not work that way.
Redman is correct during his tenure we have spent in excess of 700m on players plus all the various additional costs that go with that.
It's not an opinion it's a matter of fact.
How much of the 160m in income from players sales is profit? Not the full 160m that's for sure. That's why you can't simply deduct 1 from the other.
Google simple accounting and you'll understand.
37.) 09 Sep 2024 20:38:59
Tumble
Who was talking about profitability. Read the original post. Every teams transfer spend gets reported in terms what's out there in terms of cost and add ons. Other cost is not public unless you go look for it in so many different places.
Redman has decided to come with his own version of things.
If we are talking about agent fees here in top 5 in 2023
1. Chelsea 75 mill pounds
2. City 60 mill
3. United 34 mill
4. Liverpool 32 mill
5. Arsenal 26/ 27 mill
Its okay if you don't want the manager but stop making it like he is some drunk sailor at port. He inherited a terrible team, poor structure, culture, etc etc that needs to get fixed and rebuild. We started way behind everyone else and not outlandishly outspending them to catch up like some want to make it out to be.
38.) 10 Sep 2024 06:55:19
Come back, i’ll bite your legs off!
17 Aug 2024 11:42:49
So a couple of weeks left in the window, what are you hoping for and what do you see as priority? For me.
1. CM and it looks like Ugarte is the one they want. Not Berge from my perspective and Collyer needs chances.
2. LB. I wonder if we can get Ben Chilwell at reasonable cost or Season Loan? Being pushed out of Chelsea, Mounts best friend as well.
3. CF. Don't want to block the two youth forwards, but we are light on an experienced CF. It would not be highest priority but perhaps there is an option out there.
1.) 17 Aug 2024 13:10:22
I agree Red Man on the CM and LB. Not sure how I feel about a CF, u liked what I saw from Zirkzee last night and Hojlund had some good spells too, perhaps a low cost old pro to help bring them on and act as a plan B. Of course, we seem to quite like the false 9 approach too.
2.) 17 Aug 2024 13:24:15
We still need 2 CMs, a GK, a LB, and probably a striker to be competing at the highest level and on all fronts. I wouldn’t say no to another CB either.
I think we’ll definitely sign at least one CM before the window slams shut, with Ugarte looking like the likeliest option, but any other signings will probably depend on outgoings.
Our squad is still pretty bloated, with Maguire, Lindelof, Erikson, McTominay, and Sancho all needing to be moved on. If Middle Eastern clubs really are willing to pay a fee of £20m for Casemiro, he should probably go as well (I know he’s looked pretty decent these past two games, but given his age and wage, we may not get a better opportunity to move him on than this) .
All in all, I think we’ll probably see four of the aforementioned players leaving (One of the two CBs, Erikson, McTominay, and Sancho on loan) with three new players coming in (Ugarte, a cheaper CM, and another CB) .
3.) 17 Aug 2024 13:58:34
I'd look at Hermoso for lb. He wouldn't block Amass either and would be a quality addition to the squad.
4.) 17 Aug 2024 13:58:50
I was expecting Mazraoui to play LB. Good that he and Dalot can both play either. I wonder if they went the way they did to deal with Traore's pace or whether Mazraoui is simply more effect on the right, not sure. Don't even know what Malacia's injury is, or that he offered much in what I saw of him.
Seems nuts we're still in the market for a 4th player that can play LB (exc Martinez / Amass) . Unless one of them is leaving, surely it only needs to be a loan at this stage. It's a problem position.
5.) 17 Aug 2024 14:05:26
Don't get the maguire dislike. granted he is not a silky cb but does so many other things very well as a defender and a cb. Had a great game yesterday imo. Erikson is surplus to requirements and get that. we need to move pellistri and hanibal as they are of very use to the squad given where they play.
Personally no issues with mc staying and if we need the funds i guess he is the one that goes and has market value. Sancho is a strange one and not sure what to believe given all the rumours floating.
6.) 17 Aug 2024 14:07:23
Would love ugarte and a first team quality leftback. I think we can go with that and then focus on outgoings.
We then have a lot of fringe players to leave.
Any further signings would be due to players leaving who are playing in our first team. say we get branthwaite fir example - I would expect mcguire and Lindelof to leave. A second CM, i would expect Eriksen, mctominay and possibly cassemiro to leave.
7.) 17 Aug 2024 17:40:02
Ahmad, how dare you suggest Maguire is anything other than a donkey, wash your mouth out man. Yes yes, he had a very good game, but you need to get with the programme. He's useless, immobile, 8th choice, a complete donkey blah blah blah.
8.) 17 Aug 2024 20:29:21
Mazraoui is a rbrwb who can cover on the left. He played there for Morocco as Hakimi is on the right. I. That respect he is like Dalot in that he is an option when your first team LBs are out.
Whether Ten Hag would out Dalot there first out of the two once everyone is settled in is unknown.
As Mazraoui had maybe a day with firstbteam training wise it. Ages sense that he started where most comfortable for first game.
9.) 17 Aug 2024 23:24:55
I am self confessed anti Maguire. Never made any secret of it and never will.
He played really really well. There is absolutely no denying that. Hats off to him for that performance, apart from the dive.
I sincerely hope for the teams sake that he kicks on and does become a solid option where required.
But my anti Maguire spidey senses predict a fall from grace in time honoured fashion.
10.) 18 Aug 2024 08:37:44
Whether you like Maguire or not, he is here for this season. His contract ends in June and the club might not take up the year option so he can move on. I hope he has a good season.
11.) 18 Aug 2024 17:18:49
It isn't that I don't like him. To not like something would be to hate it, and hate is a strong word.
I just think he is crap.
He didn't have a good game against Fulham, he had a great game, by his standards, no one elses. He was wandering around before he came off and cramping up, on the first game.
He is a liability.
End of story.
{Ed025's Note - you can not like something but not hate it either Jimbo...like me with Everton, but im with you on Harry mate..
12.) 18 Aug 2024 20:07:54
Fair point Ed. A long season ahead for you I think, I had you down as in the dog fight to stay up before the weekend.
{Ed025's Note - me too Jimbo mate..
13.) 18 Aug 2024 23:17:23
Ugarte. If we got him and no more, I'd say it was a good window considering the restraints the club's operating under.
13 Aug 2024 19:30:48
Has anyone seen 13-year-old kid JJ Gabriel who has a nickname 'Kid Messi'? He played for United's U16s on a tour of Hong Kong and was awarded Most Valuable Player after scoring two goals and an assist in two games. He was signed by Nike at 10 since the age of 10. Anyone seen him?
1.) 13 Aug 2024 21:07:28
He’s considered one of the brightest talents for his age to ever be at the club Red Man.
2.) 13 Aug 2024 21:29:02
Caolin
That is saying something given our history.
3.) 13 Aug 2024 22:16:50
Anyone seen him? Why have you miss placed him Red Man?
Try down the back of the sofa, that's where everything I lose turns up?.
4.) 13 Aug 2024 23:14:14
He was signed by Nike at the age of 10 since 10? Wow……imagine if they signed him at the age of 9 when he was 10. ??.
11 Aug 2024 10:09:17
My question on MDL is his pace, if we want to play a higher line, push full backs up, what is his recovery pace like?
It has to improve a back line that cannot rely on such a deep compact team set up as yesterday. Evans and Maguire are not the way forward.
I am also interested in the screen in front of the back four. I really liked what I saw of Collier, but we must get one quality defensive CM in. It's a key position and a two relegation Burnley player isn't the answer.
I would add we saw Amad and definitely Garnacho show talent, but why is Rashford still preferred? It cannot go on long.
Overall I was quite encouraged by what I saw yesterday, better structure and after an awful 20 mins to start there was more of a pattern. Early days but I was pleased generally. We need more goals than last season, that will be the challenge because we haven't bought a prolific experienced striker. However, two young strikers, Wheatley and Obi Martin coming up behind Zirkze and Hojland. Behind that we have some excellent kids, Igbramovic, Lacey, but then behind that is a certain lad called Rooney. There is hope going forward. Get the key CM in asap this week and see how the season starts.
1.) 11 Aug 2024 11:40:30
I was encouraged too Red Man. If those we are buying are better than those we have, then hopefully we make progress.
If, if, if, Martinez can stay fit (I would make him captain), Shaw can stay fit, Mount settles, Amad hets a run, and the newbies step up, then there is some optimism.
We still need a MF, that would make the window solid.
2.) 11 Aug 2024 11:43:05
we will not see a settled team and who plays where for 8 weeks at best. When you add 5 new players assuming a cm comes in, it takes time for them to settle in especially if they are suppose to go into the first 11. Would not read too much into yesterdays game.
I would hold judgment on everything until we get halfway through the season.
3.) 11 Aug 2024 12:08:08
Half way through the season? Really?
4.) 11 Aug 2024 12:13:11
I expect a fast and good start I don't see any reason why not.
It will take some time to see the best of them for sure but there is no reason at all given our very kind fixture list that we should not be up and around the top 3 spots in the league after the 1st 10 games.
The 2 lads coming from bayern know the manager well and that should help them a lot. The pace of the epl is very different but some players adapt quickly and knowing the manager and his ways is a huge bonus.
5.) 11 Aug 2024 13:14:54
MdL is no Usain Bolt, but he isn't a slow player. Due to his size he isn't the quickest over the first 5-10 yards, but once he's in his stride he can keep up with most players.
I wonder if he might benefit from slimming down slightly in the EPL, where mobility is increasingly more important than physical presence in central defence. With defenders being asked to cover spaces rather than man to man.
I think part of Casemiro's issues last season was he seemed to put on more weight (as muscle) which effected his mobility. He's trimmed down more this season and in pre-season has looked more agile than last season.
I've also been impressed with Collyer during pre-season and feel he could grow into becoming a regular first teamers over the course of the season. He already looks more comfortable in those deeper midfield positions than McTominay does. He puts himself about well, makes himself available for a pass, and tends to not give it away cheaply. He seems to have a mature head and doesn't try to force the play like a lot of young players do when they start to play in the senior team. It's like they feel that they have to do something every time they get on or near the ball. Often leading to them giving the ball away trying high risk passes or diving in to low chance tackles.
Amad has been one of the bright sparks during pre-season and was a constant thorn in Cities side yesterday. He looks like he could have a real breakout season this year. While Garnacho looks like picking up exactly where he left off last season.
It'll be interesting to see how long Rashford can hold on to his place if his form doesn't start to pick up. He missed two guilt edge chances yesterday which would have deservedly put us 3-0 up before City scored just before stoppage time.
I can't say for certain but I do feel like if those chances fell to Garnacho or Amad then we would have seen the net bulge.
It's probably a confidence thing, he's coming off of a bad season and being left at home for the Euro's. He did do the right things in attack which is why he ended up having two great chances. I feel like he could be a goal or two away from kicking into form and then going on a scoring run.
A centre forward like Zirkzee might really help him (and the other wide forwards) get a fair few goals this season. The way he drops off the front line (pulling a CB with him creating space for a wide forward to run into) to link the play and find through balls to the wide players looks perfect for a player like Rashford.
I've been very encouraged by this new shape we seem to have adopted this season (and the end of last to be fair) . Where we have our wide players tuck in to the half spaces, and play with an actual double pivot in midfield.
It makes us very solid and hard to play through the middle of us, while giving us the ability to spring forward with that ball in packs.
Compared to last season where we kept the wingers high and wide, with Bruno pressing high and one of the midfielders being asked to push forward as well. That left Casemiro as the only guy in the centre and made the pitch very big with lots of space in between us. Teams could just pour through the centre of the pitch when they won the ball. While our attacking players were often left isolated when they got on the ball.
If we can continue to work on this shape and improve in our combination play then we should be far more competitive this season. Especially if we can get all our best players back fit and playing regularly.
Lots to be optimistic about this season.
6.) 11 Aug 2024 14:15:40
Shaps, I'd say for a CB, the first 5-10 yards are the most important. It's rare these days that a CB will have to get in a foot chase.
7.) 11 Aug 2024 14:30:21
Stevie, that's a fair point and one I won't disagree with. That's why I said he might find trimming down a little might be better for the EPL. It might also mean he picks up less injuries. A little lighter on his feet, more flexibility, quicker and more mobile.
I think if you have good reading of the game and defensive awareness then those first few yards are in your head as you anticipate where the danger is and where you need to be, starting your move 2-3 seconds sooner.
But ideal you want a CB whose quick and mobile in the modern game over someone whose a bricksh*t house.
8.) 11 Aug 2024 14:58:54
The first 5 to 10 yards are in the players reading of the game, positioning, reaction time and agility.
De ligt learned his craft at Ajax playing on the halfway line in a ball dominant team. I think he'll be alright.
9.) 11 Aug 2024 18:56:54
Agree with Dodg, the first 5-10 yards are in the reading of the game, that is more important that running around like needlessly.
19 Jul 2024 06:36:30
Leny Yoro: "Since my first conversations with the club, they set out a clear plan for how I can develop in Manchester as part of this exciting project, and showed a lot of care for me and my family. "
I read the above and what a difference from the previous senior management. A clear plan and care. Very pleased to hear those words and the structure above the manager coach looks very good.
1.) 19 Jul 2024 07:05:30
Nothing to do with reports that "Lille were prepared to make Leny Yoro sit out for a season if he didn't join Manchester United as the French club made sure they got a profit for their asset amid interest from Real Madrid".
Makes me wonder if 'his quote' isn't a release by the club. I hope not.
2.) 19 Jul 2024 07:17:12
Fizz, correct me if I wrong but i'm sure that 'story' was first reported by marca, if so that says it all.
3.) 19 Jul 2024 07:20:55
Fizz why would that be? Imagine what a new signing would think, if the announcement from the club included a quote from the player that he didn’t actually say? ? it’s like Twitter on here at the moment with all these conspiracy theories.
Red Man - I read that too and immediately assumed the same will be happening with our youngsters and they will finally be offered a clear path to the first team, which didn’t exist under the previous structure.
It’s all looking more positive again. The De Ligt deal has gone very quiet which is my only disappointment, but there’s still loads of time remaining in the window and the club are moving a lot faster than they had done previously.
4.) 19 Jul 2024 07:57:28
Completely agree with wazza, we don't need to look for hidden meanings and overtime everything.
5.) 19 Jul 2024 08:05:32
Fizz, Madrid have missed out on Yoro (for now at least), and their pet paper suddenly claims Lille threatened to leave him on the bench if he didn't sign for Utd. You don't think they might be making stuff up to help RM save face?
Marca have done similar things before when RM didn't get a target, because the idea of a RM failing to land a player they set their sights on goes against the RM brand.
6.) 19 Jul 2024 08:20:13
In fairness most, if not all statements like these are written on the person’s behalf and released by the club and its media staff.
It is very unlikely those are his words.
Standard big business methodology.
7.) 19 Jul 2024 12:47:13
Red man, I heard ETH really convinced him in the end. Well done Erik.
8.) 19 Jul 2024 12:59:25
Not only that quote but also the quote on how we treated his family
Says a lot about how the club are being ran and the people in those positions are no longer amatures.
It will take time for 10 years of a rotting mess to be fixed but early signs are positive signings are always 50/ 50 to work but I like what I’m seeing atm with the profile of players being targeted.
Not only with signings but the way we have handled players being sold
Not overpricing players and getting good deals selling.
9.) 19 Jul 2024 13:03:00
And there was me thinking these threads were for ‘banter’ and ‘transfer rumours’……. turns out I was wrong and they are actually serious, factual, and legally binding……….
10.) 19 Jul 2024 13:24:29
Nonsense Keefy, of course the player is involved.
11.) 20 Jul 2024 11:53:34
It was what the player said during his unveiling interview with the club.
It's almost certainly a bit of both, it probably reflects how he's feeling to a certain extent, while he has probably been briefed by the club and his entourage about what to say. Finally the club publish which parts of the interview they want, so have almost certainly picked out the bits that reflect most positively on the club.
Did Lille put pressure on him to accept the United offer? Maybe who knows, but personally I doubt they'd have gone as far as saying he'll not play for the first team next season if he stays at Lille. That literally makes no sense for the club to cut their nose off to spite their face. Having to pay one of their best players all season and not play him. Surely a better tactic would be to try and convince him to accept a new deal, maybe with a release clause or gentlemen's agreement to get his a move to Real Madrid next summer.
As someone pointed out the first place this was published was the Madrid publication Macia. A publication that is known as being Real Madrid's mouthpiece. Whether that was published to put pressure on Yoro to wait for them, or as a saving face exercise as the club knew they would lose out on the player who knows.
Either way I wouldn't give it any credence.
What we know is that Madrid were interested in signing him next year for free, the player (like most players, wanted to play for Real Madrid) . Yet it was United that showed the most ambition to sign him, making a big offer this summer and have presented a plan for him and how he would fit in at the club, how they hope to help him develop and become a top player.
The player then willing accepted the offer from United, so while Real Madrid might have been his preference initially, he willing chose to join us.
You'd think if he still harbours ambitions to play for Madrid that he will be focused on becoming the best player he can be, making himself a player Real Madrid feel they have to come back in for at some point down the line.
While if he settles well, develops and becomes a top player at United, while the club successfully gets back to challenging for the major honours, then maybe he'll want to stay at the club. If not then the club can sell him if an acceptable offer is made, wish him the best and thank him for his years of good service and then bring in the next young great player to build into the side.
Players are transient, even the greatest players eventually wane and need replacing. That's football. If we are a well run club (and it looks like we will be) then the club will have a plan A, B, C and D for all eventualities. Be that players getting injured and not coming back to the same level, them declining, or if they want to leave.
A well run club will have a young hungry player in the squad ready to step up, and/ or a list of potential replacements they could sign.
Ronaldo became the best player in the world with us, won the Balon d'Or, and left as he was hitting his prime for Real Madrid. He had great success, but people forget that we continued to challenge for and win titles after Ronaldo left.
If the same thing happens with Yoro then so be it. We will continue to be successful after he leaves, be that in 5, 10 or 15 years time.
30 Aug 2024 07:53:36
Goal scoring is an obvious issue, I am not sure we have a goal scorer but unless one arrives today, and I can’t see that, we may continue to struggle scoring.
14 Aug 2024 08:14:07
Mad Hatter
Yes, I don’t think we should go for DeJong, he can stay where he is happy, we have had enough mercenaries. Let’s get someone who wants to play for us.
I haven’t seen Ugarte but if he is the one they have identified, get him and don’t go for fourth on the list as they have done before.
14 Aug 2024 07:02:12
“Staying at Barca? Yes, I’m very happy in Barcelona with my family, for sure, " De Jong said. "Hansi Flick wants me to be key. I talked to him. It was good. "
13 Aug 2024 22:07:35
De Jong didn’t want to come when ETH wanted him. We should not want him now.
24 Jul 2024 07:03:37
I commented a few times on Bruno last season, similar to GDS. I think he worked in a false 9 because there was no tactical discipline needed. Our shape wasn’t affected when he ran out of position. It meant he wasn’t making recovery runs, because he was out of position, then giving away dangerous fouls around our area.
He gives the ball away when trying things but it is less dangerous further forward than when he is in the middle of the park. The way forward must see us playing as an 11, not 10 plus Bruno.
10 Sep 2024 06:21:41
We were not 8th five years ago.
09 Sep 2024 06:24:27
Angel
The manager isn’t solely responsible for the signings however when we are buying ex Ajax players like Antony for £85m he has to have had a massive influence. The manager has yet to get a tune of any sort out of a team which has €700m injected into it, that must change.
09 Sep 2024 06:18:04
Looks like a wind up but a couple of brief comments. Mainoo has a massive talent and one I like is when he turns players with ease and runs through the lines, something I don’t see in many if any present day players. It’s important he has the correct players next to him and the manager of Utd or England use his skill set.
08 Sep 2024 16:02:45
Spenno has a point, the club will not back themselves into a corner where they want to sack ETH but can’t afford to.
08 Sep 2024 12:53:02
Ahmad
Spent the most, now £640m up from what you said before. I read a list with over €700M. finished 8th, started this season badly. He must improve quickly. The rest of the post looks like trying to find what aboutery for ETH.
Shappy
Still waiting….