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05 May 2024 18:09:44
Maguire injured in training and out for 3 weeks apparently. Another training injury.

Red Man

1.) 05 May 2024 18:20:58
I think he's been playing injured for quite some time.


2.) 05 May 2024 18:21:55
Just posted that. Surely someone has to be looking at our training methods, the amount of muscle injuries is a total joke.


3.) 05 May 2024 20:06:39
Does anyone remember that up until a recent point, the length and type of injury was never disclosed?

And now the media machine is in overdrive, things have become a lot more detailed ?.


4.) 06 May 2024 07:13:09
Might mean that Louis Jackson gets his chance.


5.) 06 May 2024 11:40:33
Other clubs have suffered similar injury issues when they have had a manager trying to introduce a high energy pressing style.

The thought is that you need to increase the players fitness and stamina and the only way to do that is to train at a high level over a long period of time to raise base level fitness.

Teams that have done this have tended to suffer a season of excessive injuries, before the players were conditioned to have the stamina and base fitness required to play a high pressing style.

Given EtH's comments at the start of the season of wanting to turn us into the best transitional team in the world, along with occasional comments about the intensity of training, and our injuries this season it does sound like we are training to raise base fitness and stamina of the squad, which will be contributing to the injuries.

If we are to commit to a high energy, transitional style then these injuries are just part of the growing pains that we will have to endure to get there.

Hopefully next season then players will be better conditioned because of this season and less prone to injuries, while those not suited to that style should hopefully be moved on and replaced with players suited to that style.

Of course that depends on whether the manager will be here next season and that style is the style the new owners/ club structure wants us to play moving forward.

From the outside looking in it looks like EtH tried to introduce this style at the start of last season, but quickly realised he didn't have the players to play it, so he went more pragmatic. Over the summer he looked to make changes to the squad and decided to commit to this style of play. According to the man himself part of his remit when he was hired was to impart this style of play on the squad. Last season they accepted the limitations and a more pragmatic approach, but with the intention of planning for and moving towards this direction this season.

EtH seems to have just followed through with the plan agreed between him and the club. He's taking the short term pain on the chin this season with a view on the long term gains.

It would be a shame if he doesn't get the chance to see through these plans, but if the new club structure doesn't align with this direction then it's best to end things sooner rather than later.

Personally as a fan I prefer a higher energy more transitional style over a slower possession based approach. I feel it's more entertaining to watch and is more closely aligned to the style of play I associate with Manchester United.

Yet that is just my opinion, and ultimately it is the opinion of the new owners and the new people being put in key positions at the club that will ultimately decide the direction of the club. My job as a supporter isn't to fight against it if they don't do what I want, but to support the club in this new direction. Whatever that may be.


 

 

26 Apr 2024 17:47:54
At the game Wednesday I overheard a rumour and worth sharing, not about players but about reconstruction. There was talk that the Quicks car garage on the corner near the top of the road was being bought to house the new Megastore in future.

Red Man

1.) 27 Apr 2024 16:02:51
INEOS will be upgrading the men's section of Carrington this summer. Much welcome changes.


2.) 28 Apr 2024 11:25:30
I love these kinds of rumours, and it's a shame we don't see more of them on here anymore.

I think it's clear there will be big changes at the club over the next decade or more.

SJR has not invested a huge amount of money (with it likely that he will invest more in the future) in order to keep things as they are.

I think he sees Manchester United as his legacy, his chance to leave an indelible mark on the city he grew up in. Can he be the man who puts Manchester United back on our perch.

The rumours and from what he's said openly all sound great. Focus on youth and developing players, something that should be synonymous with the club. Focus on an entertaining style of play, again something that has been a big part of our history. Looking to redevelop Old Trafford and the surrounding area. To breathe new life into Manchester and create a stadium and facilities that are not just the envy of the rest of the country, but also that can support and reconnect the club with the local area. Somewhere for people to gather as a community, a place that offers employment opportunities, improvements in infrastructure and possibly even housing.

The club appears to be focused on buying up space around the stadium, and that almost certainly means they are gearing towards some form of redevelopment of the area. While the recent news of a task force being put together to look at and explore opportunities around the stadium just confirms this.

Personally I'd like to see a Manchester United development built up. With ideally a new stadium that will be the biggest and best in the country, a second smaller stadium for the women and youth teams to play at, hotels, food outlets, a rebuilt museum, a community centre, shops, and attractions. With well integrated sustainable infrastructure, roads, rail etc.

Somewhere for fans to gather not just for hours before and after matches, but for youth and women's games, for special events and weekly events. Somewhere that can be the hub of the Manchester United community.

Hopefully that or something closer to that is what we get. How we get there I don't know, but I have faith that SJR will push to get us something like that.


3.) 30 Apr 2024 12:09:25
heres another 1 shappy- for quite some time we always parked in akp grounds rear of the ticket office and canal. Earlier this year got told off the attendants that "man utd had taken keys back " and stopped it and the depot from being used . Large plot in very prominent position.


 

 

11 Mar 2024 20:38:58
Reports say Amad has deleted all mention of his club connection from his social media. Another player hacked off, likely because he has got virtually zero minutes. Looked to have a nice left foot.

Red Man

1.) 11 Mar 2024 22:25:49
Another unusual signing of the Ole era.


2.) 12 Mar 2024 05:58:01
Wazza

Big money for an unknown kid. But he hasn’t even been given minutes from Sub, why not, instead of Antony. Now another player that looks like he has been ostracised by ETH, whose value will now plummet because of this. Someone needs to ask if ETH is handling these situations right. Bruno, Rashford and Antony don’t have to play well, get time. Now ETH has pushed another nose out of joint by the look of it. Good enough not good enough but the kid hasn’t been given anything.


3.) 12 Mar 2024 07:07:33
Out of curiosity did you see him play at forest in the cup? Looked a million miles off the required level in that 25 minutes! I’m not sure why the manager is getting stuck for a ridiculous priced signing he didn’t make not getting minutes when he sees him every day and it appears Forson has jumped above him!


4.) 12 Mar 2024 07:29:53
He has been given minutes.

How do you know this is a falling out with the manager, rather than Diallo now performing well in training?

Hasn’t ETH dropped Antony to give your beloved Garnacho that position, with the latter starting something like 25 games in a row

This pesty manager, I really wish he’d give one or two teenagers a prolonged run in the team….


5.) 12 Mar 2024 07:30:18
Apparently that's not quite right, he's deactivated his social media for Ramadan.

Be careful which reports you read and remember not to jump to conclusions.


6.) 12 Mar 2024 08:53:44
He has explained that decision by saying: “I deactivated my social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan, it’s a holy month for me and social media is a place where there are bad things to see during fasting. Stop the hatred, there’s nothing wrong with what I did. ”.


7.) 12 Mar 2024 10:35:46
He deleted Utd related stuff and left those from Sunderland. I know we play some haram football under ten Hag but come on, read between the lines. I get his frustration though. I too would be fuming if Antony was playing more minutes than me, and I am not even a professional footballer.


8.) 12 Mar 2024 10:51:40
Quick to jump on absolutely anything to have a go at the club, maybe take a step back and think before you post. The press make enough stuff up without stirring it up ourselves, I guess they got what they wanted though if people believed it.


9.) 12 Mar 2024 14:24:54
He doesn't get a game because he's no better than what we have already.
Absolute waste of money!
40 million Euros for a player that made 5 first team apperances and currently earns about 35 grand a week.
This just about sums United up really.


10.) 12 Mar 2024 14:48:52
Of course its ETH fault, everything is his fault. Posters here know more than the manager who spends 6 days a week with the players.


11.) 12 Mar 2024 15:53:19
Nice to see some humility from Red Man with an admission of getting it very wrong!

On an unrelated matter, I recently saw ETH walking down the street and at the bottom of the road he had the temerity to turn right, can you believe that? clearly this shows a complete unsuitability to be allowed to walk outside as all the experts know you should always turn left at the bottom of a road.


12.) 12 Mar 2024 19:06:07
IWOTB,

It reminds me of my mates in WhatsApp groups who only message when we are losing, as soon as we are winning I hear nothing, nobody seems to be able to celebrate wins anymore, just get annoyed about defeats.


13.) 12 Mar 2024 20:09:08
I want our trophy back

If I was wrong then I hold my hands up

However, sounds an unusual action especially if he left the Sunderland information in. Looks to me like he was frustrated and reacted, but see what happens to him and see what information comes out.


14.) 12 Mar 2024 22:09:44
Red Man, he has clearly stated that he has deactivated his social media for a month just to focus on Ramadan.

The point is though, you seem to just scour the media purely to seek negative stories which you then jump on here to use as a stick to beat every aspect of the club with. Leaving aside the issue of perhaps looking to find some correlation of the truth or otherwise of these usually spurious and nonsensical stories, it has to be said you seem to have lost all sense of even handedness and fair mindedness towards anything related to the club, yet you try and present yourself as some form of premier supporter.


15.) 12 Mar 2024 22:14:39
Giggs to Sheringham, yes mate, you are spot on. When we win almost no posts, see after Everton game.
If we lose it goes mental with dozens of posts essentially repeating the same thing over and over.


16.) 13 Mar 2024 10:31:57
Redman - look at what this player just did.

Everyone - the guy gave a clear explanation, it’s nothing.

Redman - *staring at photo of Amad’s nice left foot* still seems fishy to me.


17.) 13 Mar 2024 18:39:10
I want our trophy back

Let’s see as the season comes to a close. I will say something about what I see, especially when the clowns at the club have made such a mess.

Also, I won’t bother posting about it, sure you can read about Season Ticket holders in Section 122.

Danny, well they told me it was Amads left foot I was looking at….


 

 

10 Feb 2024 08:53:18
We are apparently watching young players in Argentina, probably along with other clubs. The names mentioned are Franco Mastantuono, Aaron Anselmino, Ian Subiabre and Tomas Parmo.

Red Man

1.) 10 Feb 2024 17:23:12
This makes total sense and assume we have been doing this all along just not acting on many . I think we were in for alveres of City.
We need to be exploring all markets for the best value young players.


2.) 13 Feb 2024 21:20:38
I think we would all applaud this kind of policy, however these youngsters have to come into an environment where they can develop, fulfil their potential and have a route to the first team

Without that in place, these players will just be wasting their time coming to us.


 

 

15 Dec 2023 07:02:04
Rumours backed by a photo are circulating that after being ill for the Bayern game, Rashford was partying in London with Sancho. Rumours also of a £180m bid for Rashford from Saudi.

Sell or keep? Sell Rashford for me.

Red Man

1.) 15 Dec 2023 07:36:51
180 million for Rashford, definitely sell him.


2.) 15 Dec 2023 08:07:51
sell, no brainer.


3.) 15 Dec 2023 08:09:50
Take 180 million as long as sancho is included, (and Martial)


4.) 15 Dec 2023 08:10:12
Its bs photo redman. its from the summer. People just being toxic/ evil spreading false stuff on social media.


5.) 15 Dec 2023 08:32:05
I would sell the whole squad for about £180m lol apart from Mainoo and Garnacho.


6.) 15 Dec 2023 08:38:38
Social media, absolutely toxic.


7.) 15 Dec 2023 09:55:26
Pretty sure the photos aren't from when they are suggesting they are.

Regardless, Rashford is a player who splits opinion. On form he is our best player. He's a Mancunian, an academy lad and everything the club should stand for.

The only real issue seems to be his form is streaky. Although there does seem to be some people who took a dislike to him for his work making sure poor kids didn't starve, yet if you hold that against him then it says a lot more about you as a person than him.

His form is a problem only when you are reliant on him to be your major source of goals.

If we had a 30 goal a season striker, and a 20 goal a season right winger then it really wouldn't make a huge difference whether Rashford had a 15 goal season or a 30 goal season.

I'd also imagine his form would be a lot less streaky when he's playing in a team with quality players around him. The opposition wouldn't be able to double up on him like they do currently. Which would give him more time and space on the ball. Also you'd imagine the quality of chances he'd be presented with would increase with better players. Both factors leading to Rashford having more chances to score, and chances of a higher quality. Which would probably lead to him scoring more consistently.

The problem isn't that Rashford isn't good enough, it's that he is in a team that isn't good enough.

All that said, if someone came in with 180m then I think the club would have to sell him. With Garnacho coming through on the left, then the bulk of that money could be used to rebuild the rest of the side. If that did happen hopefully we'd be successful in spending that money like Liverpool were when selling Coutinho to fund players like Alisson and VvD, rather than when Spurs spunked the Bale money up against the wall, buying mostly flops.


8.) 15 Dec 2023 11:24:27
Sad gullible fools actually believe this sort of garbage.
But a lot of our own fans look for the poison and believe it when it suits them and revel in it. Very sad.


9.) 15 Dec 2023 12:11:57
Shappy - he does split opinion but would argue that he is our best player on form, as he is never on form for long enough periods: it doesn't matter if he is a mancunian either, best, law, charlton, rooney, cantona and so on!
his problem is workrate and application -he wants left wing but won't cross/ pass tries to beat the same man twice and loses the ball - then walks back or if his teamates are lucky, slowly trots. He has got ability but doesn't seem happy to put in the work to let it shine.
Agree there are plenty around him the same but despite having less ability/ skill levels albeit in a different area of the pitch he could learn a lot about applying his skillset from maguire. There is obviously uncertainty throughout the club and that is from the top to the playing side but he is 26 a senior pro and international player who should be doing better by far.
there are others to be sold before him but if, if the offers came in at the figures mooted the club should accept. ps very much doubt it though.


10.) 15 Dec 2023 14:38:01
Would take £18m for Rashford currently.


11.) 15 Dec 2023 14:44:26
I would sell him regardless of the what money is offered.
Get rid.


12.) 15 Dec 2023 15:10:58
Heard a rumour wednesday evening before the newcastle match that they are seriously interested in rashford: this was off a mag with a box at st james - wouldn't think so though?


13.) 15 Dec 2023 18:20:53
I’d take 18p at this moment in time.


14.) 15 Dec 2023 22:40:56
Hard for people to accept, but isn’t good enough despite how much people want him to be. Sell at the going rate, but definitely sell.


15.) 16 Dec 2023 07:44:45
Wow Shappy, he was never our best player, and even when he does score, he still is too selfish, slow to pass, doesn't defend and what not, but he covers it with goals. I remember watching a game few years ago, where he repeatedly destroys our attacks by not passing or not passing on time. Few years later it is all the same.

I don't believe anyone would offer that kind of money for him, but i'd sell him for 1/ 3 of that.


16.) 16 Dec 2023 15:10:13
He is 26 now, on a rumoured £300k a year and stopped scoring regularly in February, sounds like a United player to me, why would we sell.


17.) 16 Dec 2023 15:32:11
He wasn’t. The account that posted it admitted that it was fake.


18.) 17 Dec 2023 07:20:42
Let's just hate on rash even if its bs. gives some here reason to vent lol.


19.) 17 Dec 2023 08:20:40
His ex girlfriend is in the pictures I saw so clearly not from the other night, people will believe anything.


20.) 17 Dec 2023 10:10:34
GDS

I am no social media expert but I did read in the papers a couple of weeks ago that he was back with said girlfriend, hired a restaurant for a meal. True or fake picture, I would still sell him. Anyone who doesn’t give 100% for that shirt deliberately needs selling.


21.) 17 Dec 2023 11:14:17
I wouldn't be surprised by anything at all from Saudi. Maybe if Liverpool knock back the Salah approach again Rash will be the next target, who knows.
I'm more surprised (or maybe I shouldn't be by now) that people have an interest in what players do with their free time, let alone when they're from 6 months ago.


22.) 17 Dec 2023 12:55:41
Yes Rashford is back with his former finance.

He also continues to be a little pleb off the pitch.


23.) 17 Dec 2023 13:51:27
Oh that’s good news, hopefully he will settle back down now then, always better when players have sorted out their personal lives.


24.) 19 Dec 2023 15:42:09
No idea what's going on with rashford but always comes across as a lovely fella who did the business last year.

He more than deserves a chance to put it right. No one knows what's going on with him.


 

 

 

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29 May 2024 06:36:41
Morning

I seem to remember we all filled in a guess of who would finish where at the start of the season, think AJH ran it? Whilst I can’t remember half my selection, plus the Champions League is still to be resolved, will this be published after the final? Can it be pinned to the top of a page?

Red Man

1.) 29 May 2024 10:49:30
Not this year Red Man, I didn't do it this time.


2.) 29 May 2024 11:48:07
Fancy doing one for the Euros AJH? Group winners, semi finalists, winners?


3.) 29 May 2024 13:02:47
AJH

I am certain I input details.


4.) 29 May 2024 13:20:03
Lol, age is catching up with you, I skipped this year.


5.) 29 May 2024 15:36:42
Red man the post may have been put up by a different poster.


6.) 29 May 2024 17:07:42
I remember doing it as well Redman. Who organised it?


7.) 29 May 2024 18:18:35
I was thinking about this aswel.


8.) 29 May 2024 18:27:20
I filled it in right near the end of the transfer window, end of August, absolutely certain I did it. Anyone know how to find the original post in the archives?


9.) 29 May 2024 18:43:00
I don't want to know I remember some of my answers.


10.) 30 May 2024 10:17:03
I think someone posted asking for predictions, but they were in a post, I don't think they were captured anywhere.


11.) 30 May 2024 11:00:50
Oakbark. Very funny??.


 

 

07 May 2024 22:28:10
I have a lot of time for Rene Meulensteen as a coach, very knowledgeable.

These are his comments
"It is really incomprehensible what is happening now. There is simply no progress whatsoever. You know as a new trainer you always have to deal with a selection that you have not put together yourself. I always say a trainer needs 18 months to get it right, to get on track. But now there is none of that optimism left. There is no playing style, club culture or philosophy. If you look at the statistics it doesn't make any sense. Manchester United had a goal difference of minus three. " Then when asked about ETH banning the press he said "That is really not smart. The media of course have the right to ask questions"

My opinion not Rene, managers spend ages telling everyone not to listen to the press so why ban them when their opinion doesn't matter, it tells the players it does matter and they will read and wonder if it's true. Doubt grows.

Scholes and now Rene.

Red Man

1.) 07 May 2024 23:10:24
Apparently Jose wants the job if the press are to be believed …. I mean I can’t see it happening in a million years, but I quite liked him at Utd….


2.) 07 May 2024 23:33:19
There are a lot of highly qualified and respected people all saying the same thing.

Regardless of injuries we should be playing better and with more heart. We are not adapting to the situation well and using the injuries as an excuse.

It has been said 1000’s of times. There are managers out there that would get a better tune out of this team. There are teams out there with worse players (on paper) who have shown us a clean pair of heels.

Something is wrong. Do I know who or where? Hell no! But there are people who do and need to get this ridiculous situation under control quickly.


3.) 08 May 2024 01:18:54
Stop it, Eric ?.


4.) 08 May 2024 03:43:31
I’d prefer Jose to Ten Haag.

As Ten Haag apologists love to point out, it’s difficult for a manager to succeed without a proper structure in place above them. Despite this, Jose won us a European trophy and finished second in the league (two things that by his own admission, Ten Haag will not be able to achieve next season) . Image what he could do if properly supported.


5.) 08 May 2024 05:34:53
might as well read Ashley Youngs take on Jose too. Too defensive minded and the players did not like his tactics and some did not put in all the effort. Mourinho is not a good choice imo.


6.) 08 May 2024 07:07:04
This isn’t the first time that Rene Meulensteen has come out with something to say at this stage of the cycle. He’s a hindsight genius trying to stay relevant.


7.) 08 May 2024 07:09:53
It was at the home game v Seville, with Jose in charge, that I decided not to come back to OT until he’s gone.

Jose played the worse football I’ve ever seen at Old Trafford. I rank it lower than anything we’ve seen recently, or even under Ole.


8.) 08 May 2024 07:12:26
Player power is the problem and has been for quite some time.

They can down tools and stop trying and just sit back, get paid and wait until the manager gets sacked.


9.) 08 May 2024 08:49:24
But my question is, why under different managers and different players for the last decade plus, has our club seem to impacted the most by players downing tools, being tactically inept, playing poor football? What is it about our whole culture that’s so wrong?

Would love to hear some opinion on that from posters and Eds alike.


10.) 08 May 2024 09:22:22
I’d take Jose back in a heartbeat, didn’t want him to leave last time.


11.) 08 May 2024 10:04:52
Moyes is free too.


12.) 08 May 2024 11:08:25
Rene, this brilliant coach, what's he at these days? Take no notice.

Worse thing that happened to ETH was how well he did last year.

This club is a cesspit.


13.) 08 May 2024 11:19:55
It will be a lot better when eth is gone thankfully angel.
You do know he is going and won't be manager next season so then the hope can return.


14.) 08 May 2024 12:21:43
Angel

Are you also going to say Scholes is wrong too?


15.) 08 May 2024 13:20:03
I was disappointed that Jose didn’t make more of an effort to adapt his style of play to better fit the attacking ethos of the club, but there will still plenty of entertaining games during his tenure. It’s a similar story with Ole, really. Not a great fit, but still a hell of a lot better than Ten Haag will ever be. And yeah, with a better structure, I dare say that either could get us competing again, even if there are better candidates out there.


16.) 08 May 2024 13:41:51
I agree on Jose.
I was disappointed he didn't embrace uniteds traditions more than he did redseven.
But he should also have resigned (I think he did mentally) the day the window shut and they kept pogba and martial and Shaw against his wishes. ( but I can totally understand him waiting for his big pay off)
I think he has been by far our best manager since fergie.
We probably got him just past his best, he has achieved very little since he left here either at spurs and roma.
Not sure he has 1 more top job in him at club level. If I was the FA I'd be looking to make him England Manager.


17.) 08 May 2024 14:12:37
Sadly, Ken, I think you may be right. The game has moved on quite a bit since his glory days, but his tactics remain stuck in the past.

Part of me would love to see him get another shot at the big time just to see if he has it in to adapt, and I wouldn’t be against him being given that shot with us (as per my last post, I’d take just about anybody over Ten Haag) . Realistically, though, I expect he’ll probably end up in the Saudi league rather than at another big club.

Would love to see him take the England job. His football may be negative at times, but unlike Southgate, he at least knows how to win trophies.


18.) 08 May 2024 14:30:36
Mourinho was a master of the dark arts. I always remember him gouging the eye of an opposition assistant manager whilst at Madrid more than anything. Not the kind of style I'd like at my team. But hey when it works why not lol. Just don't think he's got it in him any more.


19.) 08 May 2024 16:19:38
Agree spenno. I think an intl team would benefit greatly from his know how and experience.
But the rigours of everyday with this generation are too much now I think.


20.) 08 May 2024 18:14:51
Scholes is almost always correct isn't he redman? What a pundit haha.


21.) 08 May 2024 18:16:22
You got insight on that ken yeah? ?

Lads have fully lost the plot on here. Every post ken ?.


22.) 08 May 2024 19:30:31
Was Jose good? 6th and 2nd in his two full seasons, Ole managed 3rd and 2nd in his two full seasons.

Did Jose embrace the club and our traditions? Did he play offensive/ entertaining football? No.

Did he work to develop our youth players? No.


 

 

26 Apr 2024 17:42:52
I just read that ETH banned three Newspapers from his press conference today. One of which is Manchesters main evening newspaper. Really do not think that is a good strategy banning the main local paper. You can't change opinion by banning them.

Red Man

1.) 26 Apr 2024 18:52:37
I believe they were banned from asking questions Red Man!

Samuel Luckhurst openly called for EtH to be sacked after the Coventry game.

Are journalists there to provide the facts or give their opinion now?

It’s unprofessional for the Chief Correspondent of the local paper, to call for a manager to be sacked. It’s not his decision, his opinion is no more valid than anyone else and the majority of this fan base still remain behind the manager.

Results and SJR will ultimately dictate the managers fate not the baseless opinion of a journalist more interested in printing their opinion than reporting the facts and then crying because they can’t ask a couple of questions in a Press Conference. He’s made his pitch he must now face the consequences. What’s EtH got to lose?


2.) 26 Apr 2024 18:55:46
SAF banned newspapers. Fans loved it. I guess the fans didn’t desperately want SAF out so easy to change your standards.


3.) 26 Apr 2024 21:23:16
Dude. Lay off and let him be. Not everything the man does needs to be ridiculed with such confirmation bias.


4.) 26 Apr 2024 22:48:28
Redman

You are so bitter man. Stop looking for a negative angle on everything. Have some respect for a guy who manages the club you supposedly love. It is so out of line what some of this stuff these twats are writing and saying. I respect the guy for standing his ground whether he is here next year or not. pathetic honestly pathetic.

6 games to go give it a rest. Jesus.


5.) 27 Apr 2024 03:25:59
You only see the bad in him now red man. I am very happy for him to ban them. They are poison around the club and have clearly had an agenda against him for a long time. We win an FA cup semi final and you would think we lost 5-0.

Still waiting to read a hatchet job on poch, don't hear much about him in the main papers.


 

 

25 Apr 2024 13:40:35
I watch the warm up with interest. Just observations.
Bruno was excellent in warm up, good accuracy and as they say practice makes perfect he banged a couple in from the distance he scored from.
Hojland, like against Liverpool was ordinary in the warm up, missing the target several times and even slipped and fell over.
Young Wheatley in warm up where they do one touch in a circle, saw he had quick feet. When he came on he seemed to run on his toes, glide and closed a defender down so quickly, tall looks a good prospect at first sight.
Antony Backwards should be his name. Notable live how he never challenges the full back, never tests for pace, just turn and pass back.

Red Man

1.) 25 Apr 2024 14:09:13
I’ve noticed that Hojlund slips a few times in games when he’s about to shoot.


2.) 25 Apr 2024 18:11:48
Keane and Neville mention training and the warm up today on the overlap you should listen, i agreed with them.


3.) 25 Apr 2024 18:24:10
Ports, why isn’t the manager tying his laces for him?


 

 

21 Apr 2024 22:19:56
It looked to me that he took Garnacho off to reaffirm his authority rather than for any tactical football reason. The team then looked bewildered and lacking any confidence in what he was doing, then he took Mainoo off and they just thought we are managed by an idiot.

Parcel it up how you want but the manager is incompetent.

Yes we got through but when Rasmus scored the penalty to take us through where were the players running to the fans? Embarrassed and utterly lacking team spirit. That is what Ten Hag has done, not shown the discipline he thinks but destroyed all cohesion and team spirit.

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1.) 21 Apr 2024 22:50:34
Red Man the players on the pitch should be good enough to see that through. I've said it time after time that I have no idea how to judge ETH, but I am very clear that there is a cohort of players there that are either not good enough or have awful attitude. Years of dreadful recruitment and contracting practices have led to this.


2.) 22 Apr 2024 00:33:42
It’s barely been two weeks since a big thread about the manager needs to manage Mainoo’s minutes.

It was 3-0 and looked over when Garnacho came off. It was the right thing to do.


3.) 22 Apr 2024 01:43:07
We played against a weakened championship team. We had 11 players on the park everyone of which, on paper, is superior to the team we played and yet were shown the way with desire, passion, effort and belief.

How can 11 internationals not have the ability to outplay and out perform Coventry.

Don't give me this inconsistent selection claptrap. Against that opposition, regardless of the 11 on the park, they should be able to walk it and yet served that rubbish up yet again.

I was firmly on the give ETH a go bus but have long since come to the conclusion that he is out of his depth. The tactical lack of sense and the rubbish he speaks in his conferences is evidence enough that he cannot and will not cut it at United or indeed any top UK teams.

We cannot afford to keep sacking managers. Hell I’d be the first to shout that from the rooftops but we cannot go forward with this one at the helm or we will be royally screwed for his tenure and another 5 years from that.


4.) 22 Apr 2024 01:44:34
Is sportsmanship getting worse in this game. Martinez then Onana and Antony. Kids will copy this nonsense.


5.) 22 Apr 2024 04:41:39
Game management at 3 0 shouldn't be a problem against a championship team, we couldn't even do it against Chelsea in injury time.


6.) 22 Apr 2024 06:39:57
Garnacho subbed v Liverpool v Chelsea v Coventry, coincidence?

DonRed, yes but it looks to me like they see what the manager decides, and realise it is dumb or stupid, the tactics dumb or stupid and are half hearted because they see the favouritism towards Rashford. They should be able to control a game against a Championship outfit but they are also human and clearly look like they lose motivation by not believing what the manager tells them any more. Players need selling but the problem will persist because ETH looks clueless and it will affect new players. In fact the existing players will probably tell new players not to come near while this manager is in charge.


7.) 22 Apr 2024 08:04:17
Red Man, it could be that the kid is 19 years old and has started 33 consecutive matches and probably needs to have his minutes managed to avoid injury/ burn out.


8.) 22 Apr 2024 08:47:49
We took Mainoo off as it went to 3-1. Common sense says give it 5-10 mins and take the sting out of it.

He comes off and it’s open season on our goal.

With nothing left to play in the league we should be starting to rotate massively now and give some chances to some kids, Amad etc.


9.) 22 Apr 2024 09:09:17
Mainoo for eriksen is just crazy when the other midfielders are mctominay and Bruno and you've got Casemiro in defence. who's going to defend? Who's going to chase? Just opened it up. I don't hate ten hag but he's making very very strange decisions consistently now, but not like different decisions he's making the same ones repeatedly it's crazy.


10.) 22 Apr 2024 09:14:21
So, let's put some perspective on this, you don't have to like the tactics, you don't have to like the manager but if you are going to put the blame solely on ETH then let's look at what his tactics have done, 1-0 lead in the 96th Minute v Brentford, 3-2 lead from 2-0 down in the 97th minute v Chelsea, 2-1 lead v liverpool into the 84th minute, 3-0 lead in an FA Cup semi final in the 70th minute. Yet, Red Man believes that because he took of a 19 year old academy player who doesn't yet have 2 full season under his belt, Onana, international footballer who's played in a champions league final, Maguire, international footballer who played in a Euro 2020 final, Casemiro, international footballer, 5 x champions league winner, Eriksen, Fernandes, Rashford, all international footballers have all bricked it during these games they couldn't see out the result?

ETH has made many mistakes, he may not have the team playing the way we all want but if these players can not professionally see out games when they have been leading, there's a bigger issue than ETH.


11.) 22 Apr 2024 09:42:26
Shappy

Come on it was obvious why ETH took Garnacho off yesterday and it was not to have his minutes managed. It was clearly ETH exercising his authority. Pathetic. Would not surprise me to see Garnacho unsettled if the manager stays. The players will look at the manager allowing Rashford to swan around and will not have any faith in his decisions. Garnacho is one who does put effort in and does run, it’s numbing to watch our manager trying to assert himself on to a 19 year old who to date has given his all on the pitch. Ten Hag has to be booted out even if he wins the cup.


12.) 22 Apr 2024 09:56:57
I don’t think anyone is trying to take away from the players Ports.

The players deserve criticism. However, we are never set up to really control a game. We constantly look for transitions. The midfield gets vacated.

In the games listed above- Brentford was a disgrace. 1-0 lead had nothing to do with tactics. We should’ve been 5 down. Liverpool game the same, but he made subs to invite pressure in an attempt to see it out. Chelsea game, we did the same, should’ve conceded 5/ 6 again. We’ve rode our luck and should be much further down the table.

Maybe the players should ignore the plan and just change up to see the game out their way? I don’t think these players have downed tools this season. They’re working and a lot of them are running themselves into the ground every week.


13.) 22 Apr 2024 10:06:17
Players get injured in training and it’s the managers fault.

Players get brought off for a rest at 3-0 / 3-1 and it’s the managers fault.

If Mainoo or Garnacho would’ve stayed on and picked up an injury, and been out for 4 weeks, you can bet your bottom dollar the dinosaur double act would be moaning and blaming the manager for that as well.


14.) 22 Apr 2024 10:46:19
No offence, but those players brought on, with all due respect to Coventry who were fantastic, should have been more than good enough to see out the last 20 minutes. He brought off 2 kids who've played a lot of minutes, probably believing that at 3-0 and 3-1, the players at his disposal were enough to see the game out, and they should have been.

I deal with the hindsight committee in work every morning. It's a wonderful quality to possess. Talk of 'making a point' or 'punishment' for Garnacho are way off the mark in my opinion.


15.) 22 Apr 2024 11:06:26
Nou

Leaving Rashford on. What message did that send to the team?


16.) 22 Apr 2024 12:17:53
They're all international level, experienced EPL players, Red Man. They should be professional and do what they're paid very well to do.


17.) 22 Apr 2024 13:44:26
Nou
Yes but they are human and being demotivated by what is being done.


18.) 22 Apr 2024 16:52:47
Red man, I think it is a case of you seeing what you want to see and not what is there.

You say it was "obvious" why he took Garnacho off yesterday, yet he's subbed him many times before the social media post.

I suppose its "obvious" that EtH has issues with Mainoo as well as he subbed him off.

Maybe he did sub him off to make a point, yet historically EtH has made a point with players by dropping them entirely or removing them from the squad. Like he did with Garnacho last season when he was late during pre-season, or with Rashford when he was late, or by removing Sancho from the squad entirely when he refused to apologise after his social media posts.

So you'd assume that if EtH wanted to prove a point he'd have dropped Garnacho entirely, like he has in the past.

EtH is strict, yet he's also been quick to forgive. If you apologise for your transgression it tends to be water under the bridge. The fact Garnacho unliked the posts within hours suggests it was just the emotions of a young man that got away from him. As soon as he cooled down he retracted it. I'd imagine he apologised and as such he was selected for this game.

EtH has consistently subbed off both Garnacho and Mainoo in recent weeks, which tends to suggest its probably more about managing minutes.

Garnacho was subbed off with us 3-0 up and we should have been cruising. As Nou points out above we had more than enough quality and experience to manage the game, players with winning pedigree, huge experience in the game, playing at the highest level.

We shouldn't have needed to score any more, therefore it was a perfect opportunity to give a 19 year old who has started 34 consecutive games a rest. To manage his minutes. To protect him from injury or burn out.

If you want to pick a hole in his subs then I think taking off Mainoo a minute after we conceded the first goal is a far bigger mistake then trying to rest Garnacho. Although to be fair I'd imagine that decision was made and communicated to the BEFORE they scored. Personally though I'd still have been tempted to keep Mainoo on for another 5 minutes to just allow things to settle. That said Eriksen coming on for him should have more than enough experience to handle seeing out a two goal advantage for 20 minutes against a championship side.

The bigger issue here is that if senior pro's with UCL winners medals, league titles, domestic cup winners, and experience of playing in international finals need two 19 year olds with less than 18 months experience between them to hold their hands through a game with a Championship side. Well then we might as well sack the entire squad bar Mainoo and Garnacho and start again.


19.) 22 Apr 2024 21:04:27
Shappy

I can see exactly what is there. I can see how the heart of the players drops when the manager makes yet another blooper.

Team dynamics are important, members of the team can feel let down when one of the team are a scapegoat or are favoured, or they feel someone isn’t pulling their weight and get away with it. I have seen players say stuff it, stop listening to the manager, because they no longer believe in the direction.
It looks like that, see it don’t see it, it happens. Just because they have medals doesn’t mean they have to believe in the cause, they clearly don’t.


 

 

 

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01 May 2024 21:36:30
It may be a small point, but at the recent games I went to Heaton and Bayandir came out to warm up and did the usual goalkeeping warm ups. However Onana spent time controlling balls hit back to him and then he was hitting passes out to coaches on the halfway line. Strange that we don’t have a consistent method through all the keepers and Onana had such a warm up session, then gives goals away by doing this.

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25 Apr 2024 07:42:21
Heaven help us if it is Southgate, more years in the shadows oncoming.

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05 Apr 2024 16:59:40
I would rather ETH stayed than appoint Southgate. Awful choice.

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19 Mar 2024 19:46:51
If SJR knows his history, then he should know that Sir Matt’s influence around OT caused issues for years, maybe he knows what Liverpool did with Shankly.

Southgate and listening to SAF would be very worrying. We MUST move away from SAF influence.

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13 Mar 2024 18:39:10
I want our trophy back

Let’s see as the season comes to a close. I will say something about what I see, especially when the clowns at the club have made such a mess.

Also, I won’t bother posting about it, sure you can read about Season Ticket holders in Section 122.

Danny, well they told me it was Amads left foot I was looking at….

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30 May 2024 12:43:14
Seems our acceptance of the change to a cup team is complete in some supporters eyes. A cup win is great to have, enjoyable, especially in the circumstances. However, what are our aims, what is good enough? In 1985 I was delirious behind the goal Whiteside scored in, great moment, but it just extended the pain, the pain of not competing at the top. Players want to test themselves against the best and that isn’t the FA cup. Yes it is great and winning is why players play, what is important, but top 4 is a minimum requirement and we must be challengers for the league, must offer serious challenge in the Champions League or it fades back to the eighties when the FA Cup was only thing we could challenge for. We are now a mid eighties cup team without Robson.
Nice day out but nowhere near acceptable.

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I filled it in right near the end of the transfer window, end of August, absolutely certain I did it. Anyone know how to find the original post in the archives?

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I am certain I input details.

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25 May 2024 10:34:25
For the sake of stability and forward planning, you have to think the club would have made a statement about his future, if he was staying, long before now.

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24 May 2024 17:47:43
Speculation put out to try to unsettle the club before the game, to try to get a response. To be honest the fact the club have not said anything at all is significant. If they intended him to stay I would have expected an announcement long before this to send a message, a clear message. They haven’t.

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