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03 Aug 2019 14:20:49
I’ve loved reading the posts this week and for what it’s worth, here’s my view.
Maguire is not necessarily the greatest defender but he seems like a big character and as has been said he is better than what we have. The price is irrelevant to me, fees are soon forgotten (unlike wages) . I think he will settle quickly and make a difference.
AWB looks a quality buy in a position where we have struggled so I’m confident that will look a steal as the season progresses.
James has huge potential, looking forward to seeing how he develops.
Dybala I don’t want. No idea where it came from and we really shouldn’t be entertaining it. Fancy name, not pulled up any trees for a couple of years, really don’t see where he fits in.
Fernandes look quality and would be a good signing and if we are interested then I have no idea why it is taking so long.
We need to ship Pogba out as quickly as possible, assuming anyone has made any sort of sensible offer. I don’t buy the line that he’s really popular. If he isn’t committed to the cause then he needs to leave.
Sanchez also needs to go. I’d even let him go on a free or nominal fee as it would free up at least £15M because of his ridiculous contract.
Lukaku also needs to go and again I’d take the best offer that is on the table. We may lose on the fees but the benefit to team spirit and morale of shipping out players who don’t want to be her is immense. There’s a bunch of other players we need to move on and again we should make it attractive to potential buyers. Darmian and Rojo for starters.
Imagine those 5 gone, 4 new signings (I’m assuming a CM is coming), and a few from the youth promoted. The feel and mood will be lifted and with the extra fitness and energy, with everyone committed and pulling in the same direction, who knows where we will get to.
I fear there is not enough time left to move players on but for me that is just as important on bringing new ones in.
1.) 03 Aug 2019 14:37:38
It would be foolish to let pogba leave so late in the window, no chance we have enough time to obtain a replacement.
Saul would fit the bill, but that would be a complicated deal and there are questions marks over whether he would even want to come.
Are SMS or fernandes as good as pogba? if looked at objectively you would say they were not on his level.
Dybala is probably the clearest route to getting rid of lukaku as inter milan are unable to source the funds to do a deal, so this swap deal is a pretty good compromise to get rid of a player who doesn't fit oles style and bring in a player who does.
25, 5 year contract means we have plenty of scope to get a resale value when he inevitably pines for a move to madrid or Barcelona like pogba. Could be a shrewd bit of business by the club.
2.) 03 Aug 2019 14:49:29
DSG, if you put my reservations aside, Ed002 has said Dybala doesn’t want to come. If he’s having to be convinced then we shouldn’t do it,
3.) 03 Aug 2019 15:15:18
Tony do you honestly expect Dybala to happily want to leave a team with Ronaldo and several stars which is guaranteed at least a major trophy and also UCL football every season and come over to us because we are Manchester United?
That ship has sailed!
No matter how attractive a team is, it still has to make an effort to appeal to a prospective player.
4.) 03 Aug 2019 15:18:42
I honestly think you will be surprised how many player would not want to join us this summer. No champions league is a big loss especially in a window where bayern, real, Barcelona and juve are all making big deals.
Look at sancho, he realised that coming to united this window would be not be ideal for his development when we are undergoing significant changes and his development was much better suited staying at dortmund.
Does that mean we shouldn't go in for him next summer when we will still need to convince him we are the right club with the right stability for him to continue his development?
Dybala is an oppurtune signing granted but if he does join it won't be against his will, quite a few player over the year have needed to be convinced/ persuaded to join clubs.
5.) 03 Aug 2019 15:23:18
I really don't get why people would wants Pogba to stay. Old may say all the right things about Pogba having a great attitude blah blah blah, but the player clearly wants out.
If we keep hold of him against his wishes we will just have the same circus every transfer window. It's unsettling for everyone, including Old, despite what he may say in public.
Pogba is obviously talented and is a match winner on his day. I understand that, but keeping an unhappy player is counter productive.
On the flip side, we shouldn't be forced to sell him on the cheap. But over inflating his price so that he is effectively priced out of a more is daft in my opinion.
Despite the fact that some fans 'hero worship' some players, Pogba is not worthy of that label. Talent is nothing without application, effort and desire and Mr Pogba is severely lacking in the later.
6.) 03 Aug 2019 15:35:43
Until last week his name hadn’t come up, nobody on here had suggested we try and buy him or he would add anything to our team. Now suddenly many are drooling over him and I don’t get it. We should have learned from Di Maria. He doesn’t want to come, allegedly he wants £350K a week, allegedly his agent wants £13M, it’s possibly taken our focus from Fernandes. The only positive I can see is we lose Lukaku, that’s about it.
I don’t really buy the Champions League argument. Actually I do buy it and it hacks me off. There’s only a few teams that will win it, and there seems to be a snobbishness that has materialised with players ‘not wanting to take a step down’. I’m not sure how we’ve allowed it to become so important, for me the domestic title is still the biggest trophy by far.
7.) 03 Aug 2019 15:37:47
Of course he needs convincing AJH. He is not a fan like is. He is at a top club where his life family and friends are and you think a good pitch and lots of reassurances are not required.
You don't seem to be the sort of chap to make knee jerk life changing decisions without due consultation and thought process and advice. Do you think dybala should?
8.) 03 Aug 2019 15:56:18
Is aguero not a good example why is it always di Maria.
Do people think aguero was a life long city fan desperate to move to a team that had won nothing for years?
Or did him and his agent need a bit of convincing and a bucket of cash .
I'm not saying we should or shouldn't sign him but there's a bit of a line in the sand starting with one or 2 players,
9.) 03 Aug 2019 16:02:27
Of course he's reluctant. We're not exactly known for stability are we. He enjoys life in Italy and is reluctant to leave. But Juve are forcing him out.
10.) 03 Aug 2019 16:03:54
Madrid have been making sensible offers for Pogba throughout this window.
UTD think they can get more with very little other clubs being able to afford him.
Only a few clubs or so at the over inflated fee and wages able to afford Pogba which sees UTD keeping a player who wants to leave *evil laugh*.
Barcelona not going to sign Pogba.
11.) 03 Aug 2019 16:09:33
What offers have real made?
12.) 03 Aug 2019 16:24:59
Guys AJH has a point. The problem is not there is a convincing required for Dybala. But why to convince a player who is not seen as much needed who is not willing to move to us who will demand monstrous wage who has stalled for the past year. If it is someone who we have identified as main target it's worth going through the trouble. Imagine we sign him and has not really worked out then we will have another player on 350k wages very difficult to move.
13.) 03 Aug 2019 16:35:27
I said the same to shappy last week jred.
People are saying don't sign him he doesn't want to be here. Yet those same purple are saying keep pogba even though he doesn't want to be here.
If dybala comes and he and the team are successful he will love it at United. Just like aguero has done.
Im not desperate for him to sign if he does it would be potentially a very good and exciting signing.
14.) 03 Aug 2019 17:00:59
My wider point is he hadn't been mentioned by anybody, the fans hadn't suggested him nor were the club pursuing him. Suddenly a swap is on, not exactly thought through is it?
15.) 03 Aug 2019 17:02:49
You could say the same with pogba, if go his and uniteds way he may have a change in heart .
Not sure why everything needs to be set in stone .
I'm far from convince dybala would be a good fit in the epl, who who knows.
16.) 03 Aug 2019 17:11:34
Is it possible for a player to come in, not really wanting to come in at first and then change his mind? If he is the consummate professional, he might also put in some decent performances.
Also, he could just say no right now?
17.) 03 Aug 2019 18:00:01
Ajh
He was mentioned a few month ago, don't know if the reports where true but he was linked a few months back.
But some times a player becomes available and you take a chance, any Cole, king Eric.
Angel
Is it possible that a player wants to leave then circumstances change and he changes his mind, Or do we hold it against him for the rest of his career.
18.) 03 Aug 2019 18:01:09
The club have had interest in dybala for 12 months according to ed002. i'm not convinced but he is a very talented player so if he settles it could work out.
Pogba is here and if he stays and does well he may well have a change of heart i agree but i'm not one for keeping unhappy players it usually doesn't work out. We can on my hope it does if he stays.
19.) 03 Aug 2019 19:33:15
Hi jred, not at all. I think if a player has a change of heart and wants to stay, put in the performances etc, he should most definitely get the chance. I think that's quite fair. But definitely no point keeping a player that is unhappy and wants to move. Does this answer work?
Is there a particular player you are talking about or just anyone in general?
20.) 03 Aug 2019 20:00:04
Angel
To many to mention to be honest once any one makes a mistake or reportedly does you want them out.
Lazy bad attitude said this said that.
21.) 03 Aug 2019 20:17:14
No, I'd like you to mention them. Very happy to give you my reasons behind everyone.
I'm quite sure that when I have shown my dissatisfaction in a player it is usually merited, justified.
I don't call for players to be bought and sold like in a game of FIFA.
I also am very happy to back good, hard working and loyal players when many dont. Again, when I feel its justified.
Feels like you're just having a pop though. It's something you like to do quite often. I hope I haven't upset you at any point. Or will you hold my opinions against me for the rest of my time posting on here? 😊.
22.) 03 Aug 2019 22:15:30
We have appointed Director of football - it's AJH
All sound decisions taken. 🤫.
23.) 04 Aug 2019 09:23:15
Reading the page the last day or two it’s clear we don’t need any insight from Ed002 as maxlfc knows absolutely everything about our club lol.
24.) 04 Aug 2019 20:42:32
Oh man :P
Wrote a post about how the youngsters are doing, and how you feel about them and this turned into Pogba/ Dybala debate.
25.) 05 Aug 2019 07:31:02
To be honest guys I don't care and the reason is we are focusing on players not playing for our club.
When the focus should be #GlazersOut.
24 Mar 2018 10:31:23
There are some that said Jesse wasn’t good enough and I guess there are still some that think he is at best a squad player but you have to give the lad credit. He keeps popping up scoring important goals and he plays with a smile on his face and seems to enjoy every moment. I’m so pleased for him and I hope he can take that final step and be consistent.
1.) 24 Mar 2018 16:25:04
He has always been highly thought off within the club. It was always accepted that he would take longer to find his feet due to his size. I read an interview with him where he said that Sir Alex always said he would become a real player when he's 25 like Tigana. I wonder how much of him really stepping up this season is down to him feeling that this year was going to be his year.
I did worry when we signed Sanchez as it was going to push either Lingard or Martial out of the side when arguably they we our best two forwards at that time. Maybe its time for Sanchez to be dropped for a game or two and make him fight for his place against players who are in form.
2.) 24 Mar 2018 16:40:40
Shaps, I don’t know why we bought Sanchez other than to stop City buying him. We had needs inother areas way before a left sided attacker was needed and even if he starts firing it just relegates Martial or Rashford. This smacks of Woodward and his marque signing obsession. I don’t want to upset you but if Bale is available you can bet your mortgage Ed will be there waving his chequebook.
3.) 24 Mar 2018 16:46:51
The thing with Jesse is you know he will work on the pitch and not hide. He has proven this year that he has more in the locker than people thought imo but he had the beginnings of a good season couple of years back when he got ani injury early on at Swansea I think. Change of personel and management has not deterred him and I think he has saved us a good few bob on bringing in a n other player.
4.) 24 Mar 2018 16:58:44
I was one of those thinking he wasn't going to be up to it and would be sold, at times I feel foolish, but then he can be anonymous far too often for me (like most of our attacking players) .
I still think in order for us to be competing at the very top we need better than Lingard. But if he improves again as much as he has over the past 18 months then he will deserve a regular berth in a top Utd team.
I love his energy and clever runs, maybe there is even more to come from him once we get back to playing proper attacking football and those runs will be picked out by players that currently refuse the pass and opt for 'safety' instead. I certainly would like him to impact games more consistently as well, 10 seconds of brilliance now and again is good, but we need more than that over a 90 minute match from an attacking midfielder.
5.) 24 Mar 2018 17:39:38
I agree Beastand that was my point about consistency. When he is good he is very good but often you can forget he is on the pitch, which is very frustrating when he gets himself in such good positions and scores such important goals. He needs to turn up for more games than he does, which I think he will if he continues to develop as he has done in the last year. And he is home grown which means a lot to me,
6.) 24 Mar 2018 17:52:11
Does he go missing or as mentioned above is it a case of him making good runs and his team mates not playing the creative pass to find him?
The best players score in the big games, which he does more consistently than those around him. H deserves his place in the team, he works hard, he offers movement and he can finish. I think he will thrive if we add more quality to the midfield. He is a bit of a social media whore, but as long as he performs on the pitch it’s not a problem. I wish pogba put half the effort in he does.
7.) 24 Mar 2018 18:33:58
Agree with all of the posts regarding jesse in some degree, better than dele alli in my opinion who plays a similar role especially this season.
8.) 25 Mar 2018 05:21:49
I must be the only one who doesn't yet rate him. He for me is going through his Smalling patch where player looks good for a season or 2 but with lingard it has only been 2 months rather than the whole season.
He was mostly anonymous until December and has been anonymous for most part since February. That is 2 good months in 3-4 years. Yes he scores some important goals from time to time but he going to have to perform much better to be more than a squad player.
9.) 25 Mar 2018 16:58:04
No MU player apart from De Gea has been sensational for long, playing good for some time and then playing poorly.
10.) 26 Mar 2018 14:14:47
CSM, that's not really fair, even if he's only started looking like a real top player this season, he's actually been doing well for the last couple of years. He was hardly "anonymous" before December anyway. 8 goals and assists in 17 games, 11 of which he played 30 minutes or less in, may not be setting the league on fire, but it's certainly not "anonymous".
Re: the consistency, I'm inclined to agree with Huggy. He's suffering from the way the team is playing, and would have a much more consistent impact if the runs he makes were picked out a bit more often by players behind him. Now, I'm not saying he's doing everything right, maybe he'd still be a bit inconsistent with players behind him looking for those runs and playing more positive football, but the point is that we don't really know, and I don't think it's fair to judge him too harshly when we don't really know how much of the inconsistency is down to him, and how much is down to the way the teamas a whole is playing.
I would really love to see Herrera used in a more advanced role, ahead of Matic rather than alongside him, where he can look to play the passes that someone like Lingard can feed on. It's too easy to see his great defensive performances last season and forget that he's a great passer of the ball, with an eye for getting team mates in behind the defence.
11.) 26 Mar 2018 14:23:10
That FA cup winning goal seemed to really kick him on and he’s improved a lot since then.
CSM,
How you can say he’s been anonymous is beyond me, he’s probably scored more important goals than any other player in the last 2 years.
12.) 26 Mar 2018 14:53:27
Gds important goals don't mean consistency. Yes he scored against Chelsea and in fa cup final but can you remember a run of games until December where you could say he was consistently good. A first team player needs to be consistently good and unlike rashford or martial lingard isn't exactly in the youngster category.
Thorne he has been good this season but last season he had 5 goals and 3 assists in 42 games in lvg's last season he had 7 goals and 4 assists in 41 games. Those are not good figures and he needs get similar to his current nos before we can be sure that he has improved rather than going through a purple patch.
Also where exactly will he play next season jose wants savic added to the team and jorginho as replacement for carrick, so we most likely will be switching to a mf 3.
13.) 30 Mar 2018 18:44:50
Good player, nice lad, silly dancer.
17 Feb 2018 08:31:11
Interesting rumour this morning, Real ready to move for Pogba. Could be paper trash talk of course but if they did and the money was big, would you sell? Clearly the boy has talent but he has yet to dominate a game or deliver on his potential. Is that down to him, the Manager, or a combination of both.
If the money was silly should we cash in? The problem with that is that he may go on and become the dominating player we believe is in there somewhere, and replacing him will cost a fortune too. For me, I’d seriously consider it though.
{Ed002's Note - There is zero interest in Paul Pogba from Real Madrid. They have very, very different ideas who they want.}
1.) 17 Feb 2018 11:41:22
There is no way we should be selling Pogba it would be crazy to do so.
Its likr selling the next messi and then trying to go buy a next ronaldo because we are noy patient enough.
2.) 17 Feb 2018 11:59:12
"Cash in" wtf? So some now want to sell Pogba when we have few midfielders for a pretty poor return? You bored with FIFA?
3.) 17 Feb 2018 11:20:17
Yay. Thanks ed for that.
12 Jan 2018 21:19:21
All this talk of Sanchez has masked the rumour that Vardy is also being considered. Not sure if they would sell or at what price but I think he would slot in much easier, albeit he is a like for like with Lukaku. Sanchez’s attitude worries me, the stories from Arsenal about his isolationist approach do not bode well for team spirit. Hey ho, what do I know?
1.) 12 Jan 2018 21:28:45
I hope not. Hateful diving git, Gerrard, suarez, terry, barton, keown, cattermole, Vardy. all the same to me would of hated to see any of them in a red shirt.
2.) 12 Jan 2018 23:05:33
That's one heck of a team those lot would make. Lacks some wide players tho.
3.) 13 Jan 2018 05:53:05
bfbw, there too much hate in your heart, i'd have had Keown and Suarez any day of the week. Go hug a tree man.
4.) 13 Jan 2018 08:10:14
AJH Vardy is a player Maze likes and admired over the years for his tenacity as well as his rags to riches story but to say he is a better option than Sanchez is silly, very silly.
Wake up AJH you are dreaming of poorly fabricated scenarios.
08 Dec 2017 20:28:41
So, first of all, I share my birthday with Jonny Evans so put that your pipe and smoke it. Secondly, I may have had a little wine tonight so forgive me if I am less coherent than Ronnie during a transfer window.
Sunday is a big game and I hope that Jose wakes up and has an epiphany but I fear it will not happen. I believe it is better to die fighting than running away and in football that is also true. Inspire the troops, give them hope and belief, rouse their spirits, fill their hearts with pride and desire. Let’s not turn up to stifle and try and nick a goal on the break. I don’t care if they are the best team, like Pierre the famous French fighter pilot, let’s go down in flames (google it) .
We are United, a team steeped in history and tradition, we live or die by our standard, there are times to stand up and be counted, Sunday is one of those times. We win, or we lose in a blaze of glory, to be a United fan there are no in betweens.
Time for more wine.
1.) 09 Dec 2017 01:43:34
Jesse's performance at Arsenal will have given him food for thought. Maybe we can press high with a few players and cause some chaos amongst their back line. Worry is that Matic and Ander would have to play out of their skins.
The motivational piece is way more important than formation. Win your battles all over the pitch and you'll get a win.
2.) 09 Dec 2017 10:50:17
We’ll park the bus and try to catch them on the counter and via set pieces.
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25 Nov 2019 10:22:19
The most worrying aspect for me isn’t the quality shortfall, it’s the attitude and application shortfall. Yesterday, as at Bournemouth we were very poor, the front 3 were static for the most part and only sprang into life briefly. Imagine if they had made those runs and looked that hungry for 90 minutes? This is a recurring theme for us, players who appear to not be giving 100% and there is no excuse for that.
Rashford looked out of sorts for a long time, then he found form and looked full of energy and running, played really well for England but then doesn’t keep it going. I’m not seeking to single 1 player out but I’m a huge fan of Rashford and he serves as a good example. Why was he not fired up and chomping at the bit, this will take us to 5th, then we get after the top 4, and so on?
There is something strong and has been for a long time, perhaps it is the lack of leaders we now have. Can you imagine Keane, Schmeichel, Neville, Giggs, plus a few more allowing team mates not to give their gain play to Le saying he could have taken them all off at half time but ultimately he has to fix this attitude issue. We may not have a n incredibly team but I still maintain this is a top 4 squad if they got their fingers out.
1.) 25 Nov 2019 11:03:58
I am tired of people repeating the nonsense neville spouts as if its gospel, the front 3 were poor but much of that was down to the people behind them. All the front 3 were making runs but its impossible to keep making them if no ball ever comes to you.
Pereira was playing as the 12th man for sheffield, mostpasses made to martial, rashford or james rarelt came close to them. Crosses hardly ever beat the first man and when they did they ended up needing 9 ft players to get near them, through balls never happened.
Our front three create and score most of the goals, there is little to no help coming from the rest of the team in attacking areas. Its not effort its style, its ability, that's the problem here.
Running around like duracell bunny will not fix it if the player can't pass or control the ball.
2.) 25 Nov 2019 11:16:12
Is it an attitude and application issue or a coaching issue? .
Running around and making yourself available would certainly help but so would a more sophisticated attacking way of playing.
The way we build up play under ole is still basic at best and most of the time we resort to pumping the ball forwards. I don't blame martial and rashford for wondering what the point is when they are never going to be those type of forwards that excel under hoofball tactics.
Look at how liverpool build up play and get their forwards and full backs involved in their build up, its become second nature for them, they know where each other are going to be because they are committed to one way of playing especially when teams sit back.
Apart from counter attack into space, ole has not demonstrated one iota of coaching ability to break down defences that sit deep.
3.) 25 Nov 2019 11:27:14
AJH, the front three were making runs, Perreira and Fred just weren't picking them out, or even spotting them. Rashford had a go at Perreira in the first half for not seeing his run. And Martial looked furious at another point when a pass made to him was completely of the mark.
4.) 25 Nov 2019 11:28:12
I don't think we can blame the players here. You can say they aren't good enough or don't play well in a given system, but I just buy the argument that they aren't giving 100%.
Football is a team game, and if the team isn't set up effectively, players can find themselves without the opportunities to do what they're capable of.
The players didn't suddenly try harder after the substitution, just that the substitution changed the dynamic of the team and allowed those other players to play differently.
We have average to good players. A few are poor, a couple have huge potential. The reason I blame the manager is that it's his job to get the maximum from the team, and he fails in this regard.
I said the same in the chat yesterday. The squad is what it is, and the manager has demonstrated an inability to get the most out of them. A better manager makes the sum or the parts greater than the whole. This squad is probably about top 6. A great manager would maybe get them to top 3. A poor manager would maybe be top 10. We are 9th.
5.) 25 Nov 2019 11:34:14
RedD, what if this is the maximum a manager can get from this team?
6.) 25 Nov 2019 12:10:49
Countless times rashford made runs but the midfield would go backwards or sideways.
7.) 25 Nov 2019 12:10:50
Why would you assume that given a. The history and experience of the manager and b. The quality of the front 3.
And I say that because looking at these players, they shouldn't be 9th. We should be better than that, and I look at how other ma agers have come into clubs, given a style of play and sense of direction, and made them better. Ole hasn't been able to do that.
And if I'm wrong, and this is as good as we can get from this squad, the it doesn't really make a difference, we're screwed anyway.
8.) 25 Nov 2019 12:18:33
RedD, the manager has more experience than simply Cardiff, yet I do agree the front 3 are lethal. The problem is the service up to those front three. Without a solid midfield, we are a mid to Europa league team at best.
McTominay provides some service to the forwards, but Fred likes his side passing, Perreira likes to pass to no-one and Lingard doesn't like to pass at all. If anything yesterday showed just how important McTominay has been and how screwed we are without him, which effectively does make us screwed.
9.) 25 Nov 2019 14:56:38
LLV
How many teams above us at the table are truly or have better squad?
So, why are we under performing?
We are not fighting for the title but we are way better than the position we are in now.
The manager isn't getting the best from hid players.
10.) 25 Nov 2019 15:28:39
@IBEM why should these players be in a better position than they are now? Most of our squad is made up of young players with potential and mid-table level players, then people wonder why we are mid-table. I'm not even convinced players like Lingard and Perreira would feature regularly in a team like Newcastle.
11.) 25 Nov 2019 19:16:25
Arguably all. Burnley and Sheff Utd do not have the individual quality, but they have better mentalities and attitude, which are sometimes more important. I don't think Leicester had the best team in the league in 15/16, but they had a good mentality. Ranieri isn't the best manager in the world, so it can't all be credited to him. The only team above us that I would think maybe has the same kind of issues is Arsenal. City/ Liverpool/ Leicester/ Chelsea/ Wolves all have better all round squads.
19 Nov 2019 20:43:38
We need to do everything possible to secure the failed Tottenham Manager. What say you Red Man?
{Ed047's Note - absolutely, don’t waste a second!
1.) 19 Nov 2019 21:02:34
You would be hard pushed to find anyone in world football outside United who would even consider Ole over Poch.
People in glass houses comes to mind.
{Ed002's Note - Market gardeners?}
2.) 19 Nov 2019 21:11:47
Ed002 confirms B&Q as our new stadium sponsors.
3.) 19 Nov 2019 21:12:01
I think he’s referring to tomatoes.
4.) 20 Nov 2019 09:12:03
Little fantasy here.
Ole seems to be making the right types of signings and directing the club in at least the right direction.
How about.
Ole becomes Director of Football and Poch becomes Manager
Won't happen. But sounds good!
02 Nov 2019 11:54:59
The Xhaka situation is pretty dreadful. Put to one side for a minute what he did and reflect on what he has since said. People have said they will break his legs, kill his wife, and hope his daughter gets cancer. Remember this is all before his outburst and caused by what? A perceived lack of effort or ability?
The abuse players get nowadays is appalling, I know it’s a bigger society issue as we see anyone in the public eye suffering but I can understand how Xhaka reacted. He shouldn’t have done it, he’s going to pay for it but your own ‘fans’ threatening you and your family, and then booing you, I guess eventually everyone will snap.
The vast majority of abuse is racist but there is a wider picture of general threats and intimidation. They may just be keyboard warriors but there is a section of our society that is sick. It’s very very sad.
1.) 02 Nov 2019 12:15:25
Top post.
2.) 02 Nov 2019 15:05:37
I think the issue is that the abuse has always been there, people ranting in the local pub and the like.
Now with social media you can vent your fury for all to see behind the anonymity of a keyboard. Would half these people say anything to Xhaka's face, of course not.
3.) 02 Nov 2019 15:37:16
Whilst we are all entitled to our opinions and often disagreements, the abhorrent behaviour of those Arsenals is disgraceful.
4.) 02 Nov 2019 16:15:13
Breaking his legs is fine, but bringing his wife and kids into it is out of order.
31 Oct 2019 20:06:12
I’ve watched that free kick a lot and the ball behaves very oddly. I get swerve and spin but it starts to move right before veering wildly right. I don’t know how that happens but it was still very impressive. I thought we looked like a team last night, lots of energy and a high press, which is what Ole told us we would get but we haven’t seen enough of. There was a spell when Chelsea got on top and scored but the substitutions got us back in control.
The last 2 games have been encouraging but it is just 2 games. 21 shots against Norwich and an away win at an in form Chelsea. It’s amazing how the mood changes with a few wins, I know how good I’m feeling so I imagine the players are also buzzing.
I even enjoyed the chat last night, a couple of new heads but the banter even lightened jaime up! Apart from Stevie’s poo💩 it was a good craic.
1.) 31 Oct 2019 20:42:45
Did you not spot Uri Geller in the stand behind the goal?
2.) 31 Oct 2019 21:22:07
AJH
I heard it was the mitre ball they played with last night, but in the Premier League they play with a Nike ball. Crazy to have that much of a difference in behaviour.
3.) 31 Oct 2019 21:40:05
Clearly I meant started right and then veered left!
4.) 31 Oct 2019 23:58:36
You hit the ball on the valve and it sends vibrations into it to make it do that.
When you used to remove the rubber from the inside the ball was no longer round anymore because of the valve. i believe nowadays they are glued tight on all the joins so there is no inner tube anymore though.
22 Sep 2019 20:49:25
Ole may or may not be the answer and for what it’s worth I don’t think he is. However, since SAF left we have blundering around signing players for big fees who haven’t worked out and changing direction almost every year or two. But, in the last window we signed Maguire, AWB and Dan James, all of whom currently like good signings. So. if we sign a couple in January and another 3 in the Summer, who are as good a fit as the 3 we signed last summer, how much progress does that give us?
We were crap today and it showed the lack of depth in the squad so it’s not just about quality, it’s also about numbers. But if we were to add 4 more who can make a difference (like the last 3), then where does that put us? I know everyone wants us to be successful quickly but whoever is in charge it is going to take time. Like it or not SAF has some responsibility here. He left a squad that needed improving, sadly the improvements initially made were simply not good enough. We’ve spent enough money, but on players that were not United class, were past their best, or didn’t want to be here (Fellaini, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Di Maria, Falcao, Fred, need I go on? )
The current approach to buy proven EPL performers and exciting youth should be applauded and hopefully we can replicate what we did this Summer in midfield and up front.
It won’t be a quick fix and clearly some are not prepared to wait or be patient but that’s how it is. Saddle up and strap yourselves in.
1.) 22 Sep 2019 21:30:08
The main issue with this is recruiting proven EPL talent will become increasingly difficult if we carry on with the form we’ve had since February.
We know that our lack of CL football put certain players off joining, and a season on this form will put us close to mid table. Proven talent will only move if it improves their chances of winning trophies, that or we’re back to bringing in players chasing a paycheque.
There needs to be patience, and a realisation that we are years away from competing with City and Liverpool, but there also needs to be improvement. Jose was right to say that Ole brought in three good players this summer, and there is no real improvement on the pitch. That’s partly down to major mistakes in the transfer window, but to convince good players to join the club Ole needs to show that we’re heading in the right direction. I can’t see why players like Sancho would choose us, when we’re a step down from Dortmund. We need to improve, or we will struggle to sign quality in January and next summer.
2.) 23 Sep 2019 07:36:38
EPL proven players will cost a premium.
16 Nov 2019 11:13:10
I’m not arrogant Danny. Whatever our current travails, we pay well, we remain one of the biggest names, we will still attract players. There have always been players who didn’t want to play for us, I’m just getting bored of the ‘step down’ jibe.
16 Nov 2019 07:40:55
If players are choosing a club based on the cup they are in then they are welcome to go where they wish. If Sanchez thinks United is a step down from Dortmund then his head needs a wobble.
{Ed002's Note - Maybe “Sanchez” realises it is a club run by amateurs with a coach who is not up to the job?}
13 Nov 2019 16:59:33
Sounds like sulking. They can see others getting game time and are throwing their toys out. If they were contributing then they would be playing more, like Williams, or Greenwood. Ole seems obsessed with youth so if they were showing him anything he would be getting them on the pitch, so they clearly aren’t doing enough.
13 Nov 2019 16:57:47
Ive they to see him do anything to make me take notice. Gomes had some nice touches, Garner can find a pass, Greenwood is scoring, obviously Williams has been a revelation, but Chong has been forgettable every time I’ve seen him. They can’t all make it.
31 Oct 2019 19:34:34
So far, only 4 teams have conceded fewer goals. Defence isn’t the problem, scoring goals has been the problem.
05 Dec 2019 06:43:13
You have no idea what their contribution is, are you just looking for someone else to blame?
04 Dec 2019 22:32:11
Their goal came from Scott misplacing a pass 30 yards from his own goal, there were mistakes after that but that was the big mistake.
04 Dec 2019 21:34:28
It’s very frustrating. Despite all the deficiencies we know about, we should have at least 4 more points. It wouldn’t make us title contenders but would put us right in the fight for top 4. Just need some bloody consistency.
03 Dec 2019 15:13:24
Ate there die hard Ole fans? I've not seen many if any. Some are more patient than others but I'm not sure many think he is the answer.
01 Dec 2019 08:39:54
Gives chances is different to just throwing them in. We have consistently played the youngest team in the EPL this year which shows how much youngsters are being trusted but I guess people see what they want to see.