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02 Jul 2025 10:08:40
Today's latest rumours
Arsenal close to agreeing a deal for Gyokeres, Bayern interested in Rashford, we're looking at Watkins, Juve offering a swap for Sancho, giving us a choice of 3 players, including Vlahovic.
I think sometimes it's better not to read the rumours, there are so many and they seem to jump around all over the place.
1.) 02 Jul 2025 11:26:38
Juve have just signed Jonathan David so Vlahovic might be available. I’d take him if it meant we could shift Sancho out. Douglas Luis too if he was available.
2.) 02 Jul 2025 11:36:21
Staring to wish Gyokeres would just sign for somebody, getting sick of the stories now.
Wouldn’t surprise me if either:
1) He ends up going nowhere
Or
2) United wait until the last week of the window, come under pressure from the fans and overpay to sign him for £85m.
3.) 02 Jul 2025 12:51:12
I'm not even sure we are interested in another striker. It will probably only be if Hojland goes and both he and Amorim have said he's staying.
4.) 02 Jul 2025 13:01:26
With hoijlund up top and the slab in defence we cannot fail!
5.) 02 Jul 2025 13:27:05
Sancho for Vlahovic is a no brainer for me.
6.) 02 Jul 2025 16:21:05
What frightens me most is asking about Watkins who can be bought for £60m. yet utd again don't want to pay what's being asked . lack of resale. who gives a monkeys if for 4 seasons he scores some friggin goals. This club and the morons that run it ?♂️.
7.) 02 Jul 2025 16:35:28
I got some grief for suggesting Watkins, but he scores goals and has pace, both of which we need. Not sure I want to pay £60M, but some sort of swap would be good.
8.) 02 Jul 2025 17:14:22
Our biggest issues last season was not scoring goals, it’s the one main area we must improve, nobody can expect Cunha to cover the gaps all by himself.
9.) 02 Jul 2025 17:18:10
Watkins is a decent player, but he is overpriced.
He is 29, and had a fairly decent season. I don't think he is the answer, unless he is considerably cheaper.
10.) 02 Jul 2025 17:33:21
Watkins wouldn't be the worst signing, I just think he's uninspiring for most fans.
At 29 he isn't a long term option, and we shouldn't be paying too much for him. Ideally around 45m, but anything upto 55m seems about the right range.
He's EPL proven, and consistently gets 20-30 EPL goals and assists. He's the kind of player I can see linking up really well with Cunha and potentially Mbeumo.
Yet we will probably get 2-3 years of him as first choice with maybe another year as decent back up. He will need a replacement bought for him in the next two years. Which isn't ideal. But in a limited market he is far from the worst option.
11.) 02 Jul 2025 18:26:12
Rashford and Garnacho to villa singing
Oh brother, we'll go deeper than the ink
Beneath the skin of our tattoos
Though we don't share the same blood
You're my brother and I love you that's the truth.
We're hoping for better lives
only Emre knows
He said will bring us back with all our pictures and our clothes
Five goals twenty assists doing all we can to please
Just give me back my car keys
If I was dying on my knees, I've got a brother from another mother
Then the boos for lazy attitude start.
{Ed077's Note - KODALINE ♥️♥️♥️
12.) 02 Jul 2025 20:05:46
Vlahovic would be a terrible signing, I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole.
He has regressed every season since he joined Juventus. They are desperate to get shot of him.
He has courted controversy, has said that he prefers playing with another striker who can do the defensive work as he thinks it "impacts" his game and it's best if he doesn't have to work hard.
All this while currently being the highest paid player in Serie A on around €374k or £315k a week. You'd imagine he'd want something similar if he joined us, and to be frank he's not even worth £200k a week based on his last couple of seasons.
13.) 02 Jul 2025 21:30:28
I think his comments were actually that he isn’t asked to track back so much for Serbia as he is at juve, which suits his game more and keeps him fresher in the final 3rd.
To me that sounds like just what we need! A no.9 who is in the box not 30 yards away with his back to goal.
With regards to his regression, I’d say it hasn’t really worked at Juve but that isn’t his career over.
You were banging the drum for kolo Muani who is a year older and less impressive goal scoring record. Admittedly, he has come into the Juventus in place of Vlahovic, but had also gone through a ‘regression’ at PSG himself and seems to have found his feet in a new team.
I do agree that we shouldn’t be giving him the money he is on in Italy but I don’t think anyone coming in this summer or for the foreseeable will be given them kinds of wages.
14.) 03 Jul 2025 07:39:03
AJH, avoid the rumours?
This is a rumours site ?.
15.) 03 Jul 2025 10:38:50
I know, but it's the false hope MancMan, every day brings a different twist!
16.) 03 Jul 2025 11:33:10
For sure AJH, but that's all part of the fun.
Some rumours are credible such as the one I posted, others are obvious BS like the one I read the other day about Utd signing Ruiz from PSG ?.
17.) 04 Jul 2025 22:50:25
2toms, there is a world of difference between the situations of Vlahovic and Muani in terms of why it didn't work out with their big moves.
Muani literally signed for PSG one day and before he could even kick a ball for them they hired a new manager who wanted his strikers to play a very different way. He was never really given a chance. Even then he still scored at a respectable rate given his limited game time.
Vlahovic on the other hand has never stepped up despite repeated and consistent opportunities and chances for him to do so. Despite his significant game time he has regressed in a not too dissimilar way to Højlund. Given chance after chance after chance with every passing game him looking worse.
Vlahovic is also on massive wages, and would be our second highest earner only behind Casemiro if he was to join in his current salary.
While his comments align with the eye test of him being a lazy player off the ball. He doesn't want to have to sweat for the team.
For me he's definitely a player I'd avoid.
23 May 2025 07:36:25
I saw this earlier today.
There are unsubstantiated rumours of players not being happy with RA's methods. A couple of thoughtful trophy-winning former United players wonder how effective it can be having a coaching staff that, in some cases, is both younger and less experienced than the players they are attempting to work with.
Many will say the players are the issue here, but if you lack confidence in the coaches, or they are hugely inexperienced, then is it a surprise?
1.) 23 May 2025 08:47:10
We had the exact same leaks with Moyes, Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole, Rangnik and most recently with Ten Haag. Six repetitions of the same thing, IT’S THE BLOODY PLAYERS!
2.) 23 May 2025 09:05:26
In one Rewz.
3.) 23 May 2025 09:31:42
Rewz,
Couldn’t have put it better myself. Also, we don’t have any players older than the manager. If they don’t like the methods they know exactly where they can go.
4.) 23 May 2025 09:54:57
What players do we have older than the manager, I know they play like there 50 but they ain’t, just more crap that comes out when losing.
Like all blame the system bandwagon that’s all tosh, can’t score goals can’t win matches, when we come up against physicality we are in trouble, everytime.
5.) 23 May 2025 10:38:03
If this is true then it’s the same crap over and over again, simply the players trying to shift the blame into someone else. Other side is that it’s utter bs and simply the media making up crap to stir the pot and create even more tension in an already volatile situation. We need a massive culture change this summer one way or another….
6.) 23 May 2025 11:44:55
The thing that worries me, is the sheer number of players we need to get out he club. We’ve got players out on loan that need to be sold and replaced (Sancho, Rashford, Antony, Malacia), players leaving on free’s (Eriksen, Lindelof, Evans, Heaton) that need replacing PLUS a large number of the team that needs selling and replacing.
Realistically the players we can probably sell are Bruno, Garnacho, Mainoo, Dalot, Amad plus with the documented interest from Italy maybe Zirkzee and Hojlund. Of the aforementioned players Mainoo and Amad are probably the least likely to be sold.
Shaw and Casemiro are finished but still have years left, approx. £600k pw in salary so we are stuck with them. Martínez is quality but can’t stay fit, Mount hasn’t be able to put a run of games together in 2 years. That’s four senior players you can’t reply upon.
The goalkeeper position needs addressing.
I can see Garnacho, Bruno, Dalot, Zirkzee and Hojlund potentially going, add in the four out on loan and the four leaving on a free, that’s potentially 13 players.
The rebuild needed on the squad is terrifyingly large.
7.) 23 May 2025 12:08:32
In my opinion I think the potentials are Bruno Fernandes potentially sold for £120m. Rashford linked with a £40m move. Garnacho, despite his talent, might be off for £50m. Sancho could go for a cut-price £20m. Add to that a list of expiring contracts — Eriksen, Lindelöf, Heaton, Evans — and you’re looking at a significant reset both on the pitch and on the wage bill.
But what does this mean in real financial terms, especially under the Premier League’s Profit and Sustainability Rules (PSR)?
Estimated Player Sales and PSR Profit Impact
Player Sale Fee (£m) Original Cost (£m) Book Value Left PSR Profit (Est. )
Bruno Fernandes £120m £47m ~£5m ~£115m
Marcus Rashford £40m Academy product £0 £40m
Garnacho £50m Academy product £0 £50m
Jadon Sancho £20m £73m ~£30m ~–£10m (loss)
Estimated PSR Profit: ~£195 million
Because Rashford and Garnacho came through the academy, 100% of their sale fees count as profit in PSR terms. Bruno, with most of his transfer cost now amortised, would also register a massive profit. Even with a Sancho loss, the total PSR profit is significant.
Wage Bill Relief
Player Weekly Wage Annual Saving
Fernandes £240k £12.5m
Rashford £300k £15.6m
Garnacho £50k £2.6m
Sancho £350k £18.2m
Eriksen £150k £7.8m
Lindelöf £120k £6.2m
Heaton £40k £2.1m
Evans £40k £2.1m
Total Estimated Wage Savings: ~£67 million annually
This creates vital breathing space under both PSR and the UEFA Squad Cost Ratio, even though United will not be in the Champions League next season.
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So, What Can United Spend?
Under PSR, you can’t lose more than £105m over three years, but player sales and cost-cutting can offset this. With ~£195m in PSR profit and a leaner wage bill, United could reasonably reinvest around £200m–£250m, if structured smartly.
How?
Buy a player for £50m on a 5-year deal = only £10m/ year hit to PSR.
Spread your rebuild across 4–5 signings on these terms, and you stay well within your financial limits.
Other Factors:
No Champions League = a £40–60m revenue hit.
Still paying instalments for past transfers (Antony, Casemiro, etc. ) .
Need to budget for agent fees, bonuses, and future wages.
8.) 23 May 2025 14:46:08
Doesn't Sancho only have 1 year left on his contract meaning that if his original cost was £73m his book value should now be down to £15m and a £20m sale would yield a small profit?
I wonder whether there will be interest in Antony from any richer clubs than Betis. His book value is reportedly still around £32m. His salary remains an obstacle, but we can only hope. If not maybe he can stay there at Betis. They qualified for the Europa League and could maybe afford to cover all his salary.
Amorim doesn't seem to fancy Mainoo much either but if Bruno goes he maybe has to be kept for another year. Often players have a poor second year after impressing the first. Kobbie was blighted by injuries this season, maybe he'll shine next year. All profit if sold.
Dalot could also be a potential sale. He's been written down to £0 so it would yield all profit.
The commentators on the Europa final were suggesting that a place in the Champions League would be worth > £100m between guarantees, sponsorship etc.
With no European football we should be able to make do with a slightly smaller squad.
9.) 23 May 2025 15:50:46
There is no outstanding transfer fee to be amortised for Bruno.
10.) 23 May 2025 16:07:57
Rinse and bloody repeat from the players. never their fault.
So they don't like the methods of a manager with a young coaching set up. One that got success at their previous club as the players brought into it and they got players that suit.
Get rid of these players.
11.) 23 May 2025 16:18:55
Why does everyone worry about players salaries and fees etc, it’s not your money, what’s the point quoting figures you have no worry or concern about, plus. What makes you think if any quality players come in they are going to be cheaper or work for a few luncheon vouchers, I don’t get it….
Would not be so bad if you knew the inner workings of the club but your all dreaming these figures up on hear say, don’t give me the accounts tosh or media BS
Oh just sell Bruno for 120m yeah easy… and also get rid of the only player we got that’s any good….
12.) 23 May 2025 16:25:58
Sancho was bought for £73m on a 5 year deal. That’s £14.6m pa, that obviously is just the fee, I have no knowledge of how agents fees etc are accrued, they may be an exceptional line item on the balance sheet or could be wrapped up in the amortised book value. His contract is up in June ‘26 so that would leave £14.6m of book. The £20m figure banded about is about right is the other costs were included.
Bruno’s original deal (5.5yrs) ran until the end of this season I believe.
Playing football manager with the player amortised number is all god and well. However we still have significant debt owed on players, we have reductions written into contracts for not being in Europe and we will have a yr on yr revenue reduction for the league revenue due to our finish. The 25/ 26 forecast will have significantly reduced revenues, it’s not just about PSR it’s about balancing the books. Don’t be surprised to see more staff cuts, high earning players moved on with cheaper alternatives coming. Any planned capex projects will get canned.
I still don’t understand why Ineos bought in the way they did. They would have done an incredible amount of due diligence and yet still dropped over £1.3bn to buy 29.9% of a failing company. They would have had asset surveys undertaken on all the physical stuff like the stadium and training facilities, forensic accounting on the finances. They own other clubs so it’s not their first Rodeo. On the face of it, it doesn’t make sound commercial sense.
13.) 23 May 2025 17:38:55
Here we go again with the players don't like the managers methods.
I do fear for Amorim though, if United start poorly next season the media are going to whip up a storm.
United need to start getting some positivity in the news and begin changing the narrative.
14.) 23 May 2025 17:58:47
Won't happen thou, it's utd therefore only negative stories get published. utd ruined a lot of these jurnos childhoods and this in their heads in revenge. It's that simple, until utd start winning this is always going to continue.
15.) 23 May 2025 19:19:49
For f**KS sake it's the players. How stupid do we have to be to keep blaming the manager time after time after time.
Just remove the emotion for a second and think logically.
This is a league title winning manager with these coaches. He has taken a fallen giant club and made them back into a genuine force in Portugal.
While these players have never won the title and have shown themselves to be incapable time and time again under multiple managers.
If at this point you still feel its the manager that is the problem them either you have a very low IQ or you've suffered some traumatic brain injury at some point.
16.) 23 May 2025 20:33:17
Indeed Shappy.
17.) 24 May 2025 01:48:36
I am in agreement it’s not the manager, but stating people have a very low iQ because they have there opinions is a bit rich, when your opinion rates highly Martinez and the others that you done in an earlier post, some could say your iQ must be equally as low, but it’s an opinion so it’s not, but only someone with a very low iQ or traumatic brain injury would make such a crazy statement! Grow up a bit, it’s not funny or a nice thing to say don’t matter who you are addressing it to….
18.) 24 May 2025 08:06:05
From 13/ 14 - 18/ 19, sporting finished between 2nd and 3rd in the Portuguese league.
A fallen giant? You make it sound like he took them from the bottom of the league.
Shappy, what are you on about?
19.) 24 May 2025 08:13:02
Shappy
9 of the players in the squad have won league titles before.
20.) 24 May 2025 08:28:23
It’s the owners
It’s the management
It’s the coach
It’s the players
Let’s face it we have bad owners, historical mismanagement, a coach who can’t get results and a poor squad.
It’s entirely plausible the management hire the wrong managers and purchase the wrong players.
21.) 24 May 2025 09:11:30
Imagine making the initial post as a stick to beat the manager with, when every manager has had the same briefings. Every single manager post Ferguson.
Was Van Gaal a shocking manager? Mourinho? The answer is no.
22.) 24 May 2025 09:19:44
We could just do a what Chelsea did and sell ourselves the women’s team. Worth 200m apparently would make a massive difference.
23.) 24 May 2025 11:52:52
Whole squad needs ripping up and starting again. It’s crap.
24.) 24 May 2025 12:15:12
German, get off your high horse! You're guilty of posting similar insulting comments when you disagree with someone's opinion. '
25.) 24 May 2025 12:54:17
Fizz you have never seen a post of mine that’s personally derogatory
And saying about brain injury’s is beyond a joke, so I will stay on my high horse thanks, if coming off it means getting that far down in the gutter.
26.) 24 May 2025 13:21:18
Ooh, matron.
27.) 24 May 2025 19:09:19
Garnacho been told he can go.
{Ed025's Note - some good news at last Wallace...can he take Hojlund with him as well please mate?..
28.) 25 May 2025 01:26:06
I am sure they can get a bigger taxi along with Garnacho, Rasmus, Ugarte, Zirkee can sit in the back, because cutbacks and can’t afford 2 taxis best also put Onana in the boot
SJR could always send a fleet of his Grenadier vehicles which he can’t sell because are as crap as the United team and could fit most the squad in them. set the satnav to a far away land
In fact SJR could drive….
29.) 25 May 2025 19:54:25
Let's be fair German, we'd need confirmation of the previous names you've posted under to be able to check whether you've been derogatory towards other posters.
Typically I'd say if you're using a new username as your previous ones have been banned that kind of suggests that you crossed a line with what you wrote, whether it got though the editing process or not.
08 Jan 2023 17:47:43
Latest rumour I've seen is we want Weghorst and Felix, which makes more sense to me. Options, and more creativity.
1.) 08 Jan 2023 18:26:33
That would do for now. Though not sure how felix would fit in our new wage structure?!
2.) 08 Jan 2023 22:07:35
how many players are a club allowed to loan in the PL?
3.) 09 Jan 2023 07:18:06
I wouldn't want Weghorst, but you have to trust the manager if he has identified him.
Joan Felix I think could be a fantastic signing. He doesn't fit the type of football being played at Atletico but he has all the minerals.
4.) 09 Jan 2023 07:46:44
I'd take both in a heartbeat. I'd take one in a heartbeat actually.
Neither are the ideal candidate but we need bodies up front.
Garnacho is a bonus and has stood in well for sancho but he is just a kid and the Ronaldo gap needs filling too.
5.) 09 Jan 2023 20:48:33
You are only allowed 2 loan signings and we already have butland, so it was never going to be both.
We probably moved onto weghorst when Felix was no longer an option.
6.) 10 Jan 2023 19:51:59
Wouldn’t touch Felix with a barge pole. His style and physical make up won’t suit the Prem one bit.
22 Jul 2022 10:00:09
Jesse Lingard.
Could have gone to West Ham and been at the upper end of the table fighting for Europe.
Decided to go to Forest for what will likely be a relgation dog fight. Hmm, I wonder why.
1.) 22 Jul 2022 10:13:20
I'd imagine it's so he doesn't have to move his family to London.
2.) 22 Jul 2022 10:18:30
A one year contract too. His agent was talking about PSG, Milan and Juventus interested in him a couple of months ago. Maybe the teams that actually did want him didn't match his ego.
I'm sure he thinks why not get paid handsomely for a year, finish top scorer and then join Madrid next year.
3.) 22 Jul 2022 10:25:00
Surprised he’s not gone on that Love Island!
4.) 22 Jul 2022 10:32:08
And only on a one season deal in case it's straight back down to the Championship. That over the MLS or trying to nudge his way back into the England set-up with West Ham as he was starting to do when on loan there.
5.) 22 Jul 2022 10:35:58
1 year contract on £200K a week plus signing n fee. He'll be able to do the same next year. Seems like the lad has done a pretty decent deal for himself.
6.) 22 Jul 2022 11:13:33
It's all about the money money money.
At least he will get game time. So many players move for money and see their careers die, Sinclair, Drinkwater spring to mind as examples.
7.) 22 Jul 2022 12:31:04
So much on Lingard all the time. Good luck to him if he's getting more money.
So what?
8.) 22 Jul 2022 13:32:13
He's not united so I don't care.
9.) 22 Jul 2022 15:47:46
Shappy is right, he isn’t allowed out of the house without his babysitter. Last time he gave them the slip he spent all his pocket money on chocolate and fizzy sweets. Best to keep him away from that London or he’ll be onto those American Candy stores and spend his £200k weekly wage on milk duds.
10.) 22 Jul 2022 16:28:28
Danny, I think you'll find that he has had to assume the care of his two school aged children while his mum was unable to care for them. On top of having a daughter of his own who lives with her mother after they split up.
Living in Nottingham means he is still close to his family.
While a big wage packet certainly won't do him any harm.
I'd imagine he will see it as an opportunity to stay close to his family earn a big wage and potentially put himself in the shop window for a club like Everton, Leicester or Newcastle.
11.) 22 Jul 2022 17:24:31
Shappy, trains to Nottingham from Manchester take 2 hours, the same time it takes to drive. 2 hours also for Leicester, 3 hours for Newcastle.
Trains to London take 2 hours, and are far more regular. Nottingham is not close to his family, but its a lot more lucrative.
same as driving,
12.) 22 Jul 2022 17:26:17
That should be school aged siblings.
13.) 22 Jul 2022 18:23:06
Poor babysitter has their work cut out. Get two kids to school and then back to cut the crusts off Jessie’s sandwich and get him down for a quick nap before training.
14.) 22 Jul 2022 19:52:32
This is some mad post about why an ex United player has signed for a football team ?
Has anybody here spoke with him? How would any of ye know and who cares why or why he didn't sign for a club.
Got get that money Jesse, enjoy yourself and keep being you.
15.) 22 Jul 2022 21:04:28
Couldn’t give a damn about what Jesse Lingard is doing. When he was coming through I liked the lad, but the past 2 seasons at least I’ve thought he was a git.
Forget him.
16.) 22 Jul 2022 21:08:05
Indeed. It’s his business and his alone. He’ll play every week, it’s a great traditional club, and he’ll be handsomely paid.
As for logistics, I’m sure he’ll work it out by himself ???.
17.) 22 Jul 2022 18:59:50
Despite all this, Lingard’s going straight into my FPL Team!
18.) 23 Jul 2022 13:57:49
Shappy is so busy now googling travel times to uphold the most ridiculous argument of the day?? nice one ajh. Lots to be said b
For knowing your geography??.
14 Nov 2021 08:56:04
I was told last night that Ole has agreed to step aside once a replacement has been found.
Don't know where this rumour came from but hopefully it has legs.
1.) 14 Nov 2021 09:22:12
It does seem like the club have used the international break and particularly Ole and the players not being there to assess their options and hopefully through intermediaries reach out to potential candidates to test the waters.
2.) 14 Nov 2021 10:11:33
I think there’s zero chance of Ole agreeing to step aside. If the club replace him, he’ll be getting compensated handsomely.
3.) 14 Nov 2021 11:56:13
If this is true, at least the club aren't rushing around and are taking their time to make a decision.
4.) 14 Nov 2021 16:05:17
I don’t doubt it Danny, but if it is true, at least Woody can crack on without having to be too secretive.
5.) 14 Nov 2021 18:29:34
Maybe he doesn't know he agreed to step aside, just sayin.
6.) 15 Nov 2021 11:22:14
Any truth to the Zidane rumours?
7.) 17 Nov 2021 08:11:26
TOHoM, only that it is true that they are rumours ?.
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04 Oct 2025 08:42:59
Tuchel has been making some interesting coments, particularly that yhe best players don't always make the best team, something PSG eventually realised too. It's about energy and team spirit, no egos, everyone pulling in the same direction.
We saw SAF fall out with Beckham when he felt his fame was becoming an issue, it was always team first, individual second, and I wonder if enough Managers focus on this enough. SAF always wanted to look into the player as a person, as well as however talented they were.
It has felt at times that we have a strong team spirit, and then we see signs that it perhaps we don't. Formations is the hot topic right now, but mood, spirit, and energy all make such a difference.
1.) 04 Oct 2025 11:43:17
Liverpool fan in here - prepared to get some stick for this one.
You will be a much better team when Fernandes leaves. Quality player but his attitude is so negative and doesn't encapsulate how a captain should present himself.
You have done well to move on a lot of poor players this summer, but the constant of the last 6/ 7 years has been Bruno and nothing has really changed much in that time from what I can see.
He is a good player, and I know how much the fans love him so I can see why you would want him to stay. But I just see an overhyped, moaning, bad loser who has downed tools plenty of times (europa final comes to mind) . Just my opinion of course.
2.) 04 Oct 2025 12:30:22
This comes up regularly, some l love him, some want him gone, particularly if there is a big Saudi fee on offer.
3.) 04 Oct 2025 20:01:17
BMENA red
He's created more chances than any other player in the league since his debut. By far. In a poor Utd side.
I'd be more worried about your own playmaker who you paid 115 million for. 0 goals, 0 assists.
Half a billion spent this summer and the cracks are starting to show.
4.) 05 Oct 2025 02:11:49
Will green. I will call a spade a spade and I totally agree Wirtz has been lacklustre so far. To say the least. Our entire squad has tbh, slot partially to blame I think but the impact of Jota's death on likes of Salah and Macca prob shouldn't be underestimated.
29 Sep 2025
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1.) 30 Sep 2025 04:59:41
???.
2.) 30 Sep 2025 05:22:24
Well that’s really close! Some on here still support him but most are changing at last
Most on here said Defence is great, now they are changing too. surprise surprise, it was always going to be a problem with such a slow back 3 and 2 wing backs who are just not good enough
Midfield we knew was a problem, made seriously worse by playing only 2 in there and 1 of them Bruno!
We were always too slow in build up and that’s continued again, Rasmus was not as bad as RA made him look, he is making Cunha, Sesko and Mbuemo look poor, so he good at that
He put Mainoo, now Yoro and Heaven on the naughty step too
Every player digressed under him, not 1 highlight
Is it any wonder we are so poor.
Finally most woke up and smelt the coffee!
3.) 30 Sep 2025 08:03:23
It's the system ?.
4.) 30 Sep 2025 09:31:43
Based on that form, we should finish the season on 38 points. Just enough to stay up thankfully! Relegation avoided.
I wonder what the RA backers would say after that once he has had 2 transfer windows, a full season and pre-season.
5.) 30 Sep 2025 09:56:14
Those stats wouldn’t even keep him in the Burnley job, yet we r supposed to give him even more time….
6.) 30 Sep 2025 10:07:05
Dont you know its all apart of the grand master plan.
We have to be really awful for a set period of time and then suddenly we will become really good.
27 Sep 2025 16:26:42
I think we have bought well recently, we now have some very good players, but the system is making them look ordinary.
Heaven and Yoro have huge potential, as does Sesko, Cunha and Mbuemo are EPL proven, and when fit, Mount has looked good. We also have many other players who I think k would do well in a more flexible formation.
433 or 442 would see a real change in our form, but the Manager is entrenched, same approach for every game, irrespective of the opposition or the state of the game. Even when struggling we carry on with this bizarre formation. Grimsby anyone? Sadly he has made a rod for his own back; bu being so entrenched he has nowhere to go.
The issue for me was our approach. Last week we were hungry and aggressive, this week we were sluggish and passive, surely it is not to much to ask to motivate the players and ensure they are up for it.
For the first time today the substitutions were a tiny bit more adventurous, but surely we need to be very adventurous when chasing a game.
I'd love to be wrong, and I said it before, but RA looks like a man who is finding the water too deep. People are focusing on us having played 3 big teams, but we drew with Fulham, lost to Brentford, and were embarrassed by in Grimsby, scraping a wun against Burnley. Stats don't lie, and RA's are shocking.
1.) 27 Sep 2025 18:39:18
AJH
35 games, 32 points. let that sink in. If that was a full season, we would be relegated. united, relegation form.
I'm sorry, but we appointed a manager way way way out of his depth
I didn't want Ole, I said he was way out of his depth, which he was, but he was a damn sight better than this guy and that's saying something.
2.) 27 Sep 2025 18:56:05
Its just become political now with the Ineos ownership in my opinion.
Sacking Amorim to them would be admitting that Ashworth was right given the aggressive briefing that came out in the media at the time.
3.) 27 Sep 2025 19:23:23
I don't get the whole combining points from this and last season.
Whilst I agree with a lot of the points especially around sticking with the formation, RA didn't want to come mid season and was using poorly performing players that got a previous manager sacked and barely had time to work with them.
Bunch of quality signings as said above but they'll take time to gel.
Whether it's the right system and manager to do it, I'm not sold, but it's this season that should be judged.
4.) 27 Sep 2025 20:29:03
DSG is right there’s a political agenda but I think noise is so loud now there must be change.
As AJH says Amorim has been backed with quality signings and the moving out of players he doesn’t want. The club barring a DM, has removed every excuse. They’ve given him time and support, things all managers after SAF haven’t benefited from.
Credit where it’s due if this management team had been with Ole in his time, we’d likely have Haaland, Bellingham etc.
Someone pointed out a clause that saves £12M in compensation if sacked in the after 12 months. So I wouldn’t be surprised if Amorim is given a few more weeks yet.
I’d be delighted to seem him come out with a 4231 and win or at least play well against Sunderland and Liverpool but I’ve zero confidence in the man.
I hope they are working on Iraola and Howe now.
5.) 27 Sep 2025 21:53:56
Wouldn’t be too sure we’ll beat Sunderland. They’re currently 3rd and 4 points ahead of us.
6.) 28 Sep 2025 06:29:24
Tim when you say it like that then 4 points off thrird place doesn't sound so bad.
21 Sep 2025 18:58:36
I've been less than convinced by RA, but I thought he had the team up for it yesterday, they were pumped and took his feedback on board.
The energy and aggression was clear from the start and continued throughout, our continuing challenge is converting the chances we create.
MDL was immense and popped up everywhere, someone put a rocket up Shaw, and Maguire was hyped. Mbuemo looks like a great buy, and it was good to see Cunha and Mount back.
The worry I guess we all have is CM, it continues to look light. In those conditions, it would have made sense to take Cas off after an early booking, but hey ho, it worked out OK.
If we can keep that passion and aggression, it augers well for the next games.
1.) 22 Sep 2025 09:25:50
I think there has clearly been a big push from the mainstream media to try and put pressure on Amorim with the aim of getting him sacked.
Our form this season so far has been massively blown out of proportion. When we played City they were BELOW us in the table yet nothing was made of that.
We have the toughest fixture list to start the season, by a long way. In our opening 5 games we have played 3 of last seasons top four teams. With a respectable record (given where we are currently) of won one, drew one, and lost one.
If games against the top four are the toughest games you should play in theory at least, and we've played 3 of those 8 games, we've already played 37.5% of the toughest games we should face this season.
We've also had to do so while dealing with injuries. Our big three summer signings, brought in to transform our attack, haven't been able to start a game together yet.
Despite all that we are actually amongst the top teams (actually top for many) when looking at key performance statistics. Despite playing with key injuries against some of the best sides.
The players look committed, they are fighting for the team and the manager in a way that we haven't seen in ove.
2.) 22 Sep 2025 11:10:05
I would argue about the aim of the mainstream media is to get Amorim sacked, however, Manchester United headlines certainly bring more attention then any other club in this country so I suspect the mainstream media “wants” Manchester United to either thrive spectacularly or collapse dramatically because it gives them a clear story line.
I think Amorim summed it up perfectly in his press conference before the Chelsea game where he said we are playing better but it's around each box we need to improve and for me, it's hard to argue this. Decision making at both ends is a bit of a problem at the moment. Versus Chelsea, Fernandes should be rolling Diallo in to make it 3-0 but tries to reverse it to Sesko which is the harder pass, 3-0 and that is game, set and match but 2-0 up is a dangerous score line, especially when you ae lacking some confidence.
Versus Fulham, Dalot tries to recieve the ball on the turn whilst it's in the air when he should just control it, set it back to the CB who could then lace it or keep better possession but he loses the ball and Fulham equalise. Against Arsenal, their corner comes from Fernandes and Yoro both trying to play out of the box from an Arsenal cross, both could have laced it but Arsenal won it back and won a corner from which they scored from.
So we could and perhaps should be sitting on 10 points and in the top 4 but we are on 7 which, on reflection, isn't horrendous, same points as City, 1 off of Chelsea and 3 off of top 4.
The next 2 games, for me are the important ones, if we beat Brentford and Sunderland I would say it is a good start for where we were last season and considering who we have played.
3.) 22 Sep 2025 18:13:53
Think RA is doing fine job on his own to get the sack he don’t need any help from anyone…. stat man back on % but in reality we never had a problem against top teams where we are useless is against lowly teams, Grimsby being perfect example….
4.) 22 Sep 2025 19:54:13
Nice to have you back German.
16 Sep 2025 13:01:42
As you know, I have serious doubts about Amorim, but to see ex players tearing into him makes me SMH.
Devilled at Valencia was atrocious, Rooney as a Manager has been laughable, Keane had a promotion but didn't last long, and Scholes hasn't even tried yet. I find Neville in particular nauseating, he has so much to say and yet as a Manager he was atrocious. And now Rooney is getting involved, every club he has managed has got worse yet here is is, dishing out advice.
Great players, all of them, but crap Managers who are gobby.
1.) 16 Sep 2025 13:53:28
I agree AJH was thinking the same myself. It’s not helpful in our situation. Our club sells newspaper gets clicks online. It’s champions league week and we are still the top story on sky sports still over analysing the weekend result. Most of our toxic fan base want to listen to merson and the ex players who just because they played high level football must have great insight which they really don’t.
2.) 16 Sep 2025 14:45:12
Your right ajh they are all failed managers.
But embroiled to their opinion. You've member managers anybody or been apro player but you think you hand the right to critisise which you do. So if its OK for you to voice your opinion why is it not ok for them?
I don't get why anybody gets upset with pundits opinions. They are just ex footballers nothing more. As you say most of them failed at the job themselves but at least they are qualified and have some proper understanding of what they are talking about. Do you think you have?
Nobody on here is qualified to their extent so tolerate their opinions and ignore them no point moaning about what they say its an opinion of 1 no more than that.
Id love a reporter to ask them live on air well how come you were so bad at the job? That would be hilarious.
3.) 16 Sep 2025 15:41:16
Dont agree, they have more than their right to an opinion and what they have come out and said is neither personal towards Amorim or controversial towards the club.
1.) Neville - united need to start winning football games or Amorim is in trouble.
2.) Keane - Put a tackle in or get a yellow card at least in the last game.
3.) Rooney - The club are clearly not improving under Amorim.
4.) Scholes - the club should have signed a centre mid in the summer and did it really need the grimsby game to show that a nee goalkeeper was needed?
Whats so bad about any of those interjections from
Ex players lol?
4.) 16 Sep 2025 17:59:07
Yes, they were poor managers, but the comments they have made and are making are correct.
Utd look better when they attack, but my God they are poor defensively. That comes down to training and the tactics.
5.) 16 Sep 2025 20:49:29
All these ex-players/ failed managers as you put it, all have something in common*, and that is everyone of them managed players that were not even close to being on the level they were. How are they supposed to relate to players and tell them what to do when they will never understand how rubbish they are.
*Except Gary Neville who didn’t speak the language at all.
6.) 17 Sep 2025 00:22:40
Whilst I agree with the sentiment, Tony, I recently saw stats that showed RA was doing worse at Utd than Neville did at Valencia.
Must admit, I had to do a double take on that one, as Neville's time there is always seen as such a benchmark in managerial failure.
7.) 17 Sep 2025 03:30:29
Half the battle at this club is dealing with the constant noise that surrounds it.
Amorim will know better than anyone that the only stat that matters is winning, if he doesn’t start winning then he will be sacked.
My biggest confusion at the moment is why that front line isn’t scoring more, are we back to the days of relying on individual brilliance because they are taking time to gel and understand each others game.
Anyway, Chelsea up next, another tough game I would gladly take a point from and move on.
8.) 17 Sep 2025 05:22:01
Everyone but their mates Ole and Ruud have had negative comments from the usual rent an ex player for comment mob. RA is getting it now. They are not in any position to throw stones but what Scholes said for example was not directly at RA, the club should have bought a CM and a GK. Rooney sounds like a fan rather than expert pundit.
RA has to prove them wrong, starting against Chelsea. If contractual rumours are correct it is financially beneficial to wait until after 1st Nov if they wanted to sack him.
9.) 17 Sep 2025 11:14:54
If his offer of walking away without compensation still stands I'll hold the door open lol.
Likeable chap, probably talks himself into a hole too often, out of his depth.
I was/ am really excited by the striker signings, and reckon Cunha is our most important signing since Bruno. Sadly, as much as I love Mbeumo, that dosh should have been for a midfielder. We've got no.10s coming out of our ears and no engine room at all.
10.) 17 Sep 2025 12:23:47
This is depressing. You cannot reverse years of impotence and incompetence in one window. To have gotten rid of so many players, started to balance books, drive the wage bill down and plan for the FUTURE not the present, with clear needs for a number 1, some decent WBz, a world class CB with leadership qualities and 2 decent CM/ DMs still needed is ridiculous.
Arteta was lambasted in his first and part of his second full years in charge, without any level of the vitriol aimed at United and still hasn't won ANYTHING and only now, when he has a striker is there pressure for him to succeed, after how many years?
American has a clear direction and he has a proven track record, how many managers do we want to go through before we suck it up and say okay let's give it 3 or 4 years and see where we are at.
Fergie went 7 years before a Premier league title and 4 years without any trophy and needing a similar clearout job, that took far longer.
Klopp took 5 years to establish Liverpool after they did the same with Benitez, Dalglish, Rogers, Royal Hidgson and Gerrard Houllier, we are insane if we listen to the outside noise.
Great credit should go to Martin Edwards for having the balls to ignore all the outside noise. Even Fwrgue needed Peter Kenyon and sunsequently David Gill to steer the club operational and commercially back then.
And if you know your history it's enough to make your heart go.
Jesus's, how i wish this chant resonated into our own dedication. It was pai ful to watch United in the 80s, and early nineties. American reminds me of Fwrgie, stubborn, outspoken, slightly flawed and driven woth a touch of explosive anger. But great knowledge and a determination to succeed, but the pressure these days in incomparable, I really wonder what would have happened if we had all the media exposure and social media back then, I am tired of restarts, of reboots and transformations, I want to see blind commitment and consistency for a few seasons and forget winning anything other than the player vs manager battles. It's far too easy to give up than stick to your guns and wait for the inevitable upturn once the tail doesn't wag the dog, but more importantly try all the Micheal's in the park constantly whistling the dog in different directions.
11.) 17 Sep 2025 13:04:50
Fair post Captain.
I feel like shuffling off into a corner with my tail between my legs.
12.) 17 Sep 2025 16:40:02
Spot on CO.
It won't suit the here and now fans. But imo they are more flaky than the players owners or manager. I'd rather get rid of them than the manager at this point in the process.
That said there does need to be careful consideration as too how we can do a little better in the immediate term . We don't need to change the strategy long term but to tweak the tactic short term in order to stop the rot.
A time for cool heads patience and tolerance. Those that don't have that are only making unwanted and unnecessary noise.
13.) 17 Sep 2025 19:31:59
Best post I've read in here in ages Captain Obvious. Not trying to create a them and us situation in the site, just hit the nail on he head of exactly how I feel right now. Give this a chance to work, even if in 3 seasons we say it was an unmitigated disaster. The players clearly don't fit in some cases. We need contracts to end, we need players to go and a full refresh from top to bottom of the club of this new ideology. Then give it our best shot and support it fully.
Media bogeymen can F off.
14.) 17 Sep 2025 20:18:42
Arteta’s start at Arsenal was far better than what Amorim is producing now.
Arteta (first 31 PL games) : 13 wins, 8 draws, 10 losses – plus an FA Cup and Community Shield in his first season.
Amorim (first 31 PL games with United) : 8 wins, 7 draws, 16 losses – no silverware, and a much worse win rate.
Klopp (first 31 PL games with Liverpool) : 13 wins, 10 draws, 8 losses – similar to Arteta, already showing progress and a clear style.
So patience is one thing, but the numbers don’t lie – Arteta and Klopp were still miles ahead of Amorim.
15.) 17 Sep 2025 22:38:50
Yeah, if you read the papers or listen to the leaches you will find lots of stats about why we should sack him Kurtis.
We were a club in a mess. He came in and removed a whole bunch of key players, which most fans agreed with. He still has more to remove. What have you seen from luke Shaw, m guire, dalot, bruno, cas, malacia hell even amad is over rated, who was one of our best players last year.
Mid year he changed the tactics on their head and our players struggled to adopt. They still are. Do we know this doesn't work yet? No. Keep going.
16.) 18 Sep 2025 00:08:30
No doubt kurtis.
There is no doubt he should be doing better.
Personally where I think the position differs from the previous managers is that he is dealing with the rotten culture.
Sometimes things don't happen as fast as we would like. The new front 3 game not even started a game together yet.
The experiment with bruno is failing i'm frustrated by that bruno stayed knowing that was his role so I just don't get it.
He must have thought he could do it and wants to do it or he would have left. It just seems strange to me.
I would like to see RA earn more time. I don't expect him to be given it i expect him to earn it and deserve it.
17.) 18 Sep 2025 00:57:59
Curtis
Arteta finished his forst season in 9th and so did Klopp. I don't even consider last season relevant, at all, Amorim didn't want to come in November and what's more, he said immediately it will get much worse before it gets better. He wasn't wrong, so in your approach to stats, if we ce 8th then we are tracking to replicate Arsenal and Liverpool?
By the way, Klopp came 8th 4th 4th and 2nd before winning the league, if Amorim is in 4th after 3 years, I've no doubt you would be saying Ole and Mourinho both managed better stats as well. And Arteta still hasn't won the league after 6 years.
Stats are meaningless when you're starting on the back foot, with one leg and one arm tied behind your back. We still have half a team to replace for me before I will be judging performance with stern expectations and u til then my expectations are to watch better football.
Some of our transition play against City was fantastic, particularly through Mbuemo who in several matches gets the ball on halfway, pivots and sprays the ball to the opposite side of the pitch, its coming, I can see it. You forget we lost Cunha and mount before thst game, who were starting to gel and it was only Seskos first start. Yet we dominated possession, away, against City. There's progress there, and we will improve. Our best first 11 has yet to play a game together yet! Not a single game with the players that we bought to see collectively on the pitch.
18.) 18 Sep 2025 09:26:49
As before I am with RA, I like what he says, the stance he took and his character, but he has to deal better with the Bruno conundrum and that will define his tenure. I cannot understand the thinking in buying two excellent 10’s and not selling Bruno to buy the CM we are utterly desperate for. Now RA needs to work with what he has better to shore up CM. If there are still players leaking info by saying they are not behind (another) boss they need selling in Jan, no matter who they are or who is boss.
19.) 18 Sep 2025 10:57:54
I don't think you can honestly compare Ruben with Arteta and Klopp. They were nowhere being relegation outfits like we are and especially not after over 30 league games.
20.) 18 Sep 2025 11:49:22
if you think amorim can finish 8th/ 9th and they will be okay with it you know nothing. he has no credit left with owners and fans after last year and he better start winning.
21.) 18 Sep 2025 12:14:54
Damon if you seriously watched our 4 Premier league games and think we are relegation candidates then I am not sure what you're watching, it smacks of parroting what you're reading in MSM instead or hearing from 'genius pundits'.
22.) 18 Sep 2025 12:28:16
And tha k God you're not running the club shashank. I've got a background in transformation and change management, i'm well aware of how difficult it is and how many bleaters always want to pivot the minute its not perfect.
Ineos has built its entire busoness on acquiring assets from massive, bloated and inept oil gas and chem companies, driving leniency in lean management and identifying weak links. Time will tell whether they accomplish the league i'm the timeframes stated, however, they have clearly shown their temperament, when they think they've made a mistake, ergo Ten Hag extension, Onana or Ashworth, they haven't messed around, when they believe in someone who isn't performing to their max, such as Mainoo (all the jibber jabber over why hasn't he started a league game, when he was given a slam dunk start against a 4th division side and got owned and stunk the place up) or Amorim then they have refised to budget, saying you're going nowhere.
You are viewing all this as the same as Kurtis with his 31 games nonsense, and it is nonsense, because the guy specifically wanted that the season would be a disaster and it would get worse (it didn't imp4ove but it didn't get worse it stayed the same) and he hasn't had a single game with his initial preferred 1st 11 despite only having a third of a first team never mind a squad. Who do you suggest as an alternative? With what he still has to work with? The likes of Luke Shaw and Macguire, Ugarte? Casemiro? Perhaps Potter is your man? (That's Harry not Graham)
23.) 18 Sep 2025 13:27:34
When Ten Hag was sacked we were 7 points off top 4. We finished 27 points off top 4 after Amorim took over. Don't be so delusional. It absolutely didn't stay the same it got worse.
24.) 18 Sep 2025 17:33:50
He had 11 pints in 9 games when he was fired kurtis. Just over a point a game. Ra is just under a point a game.
25.) 18 Sep 2025 21:44:08
A time for educated football fans ken ?.
26.) 18 Sep 2025 23:42:43
Captain it's pretty simple really mate it is all about results and we are not getting them. I'm not interested in stats or any other nonsense or what genius pundits have to say. It seems you have swallowed all Ruben's excuses hook, line and sinker. What does he need another 250 million and one more pre season and we might be able to make top half? He's a very limited coach with Plan A and nothing else he has it all to do to change the mess we are in.
27.) 18 Sep 2025 23:48:09
Also Captain what I said was Klopp and Arteta were nowhere near being relegation outfits after over 30 games. Which is exactly what we have been under Ruben. Stop making out he has been manager for 4 league games he hasn't. We are still toothless in games pretty much like we were last season. Did you not watch the europa league final? Where he played Bruno deep? Well he's doing exactly the same this season he doesn't learn from his mistakes it seems.
27 Aug 2025 17:54:17
Time for Ken I think ?.
26 Aug 2025 17:34:56
Mainoo competing with Bruno, what poppycock.
25 Aug 2025 17:54:30
He had an awesome breakthrough year, and was hindered by injuries last year, as well as the manager criticising him publicly.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say thise criticising Mainoo don't come from Manchester.
15 Aug 2025 03:59:38
I can't see us spending anything like that.
09 Aug 2025 13:25:23
You know for a fact, how so?
15 Oct 2025 16:08:57
I thought he made a reasonable point. We bought a young striker with potential and expected him to carry the team. He failed. So guess what, we shipped him out and have done exactly the same thing, bought a young striker with potential expecting him to carry the team. That was his point.
14 Oct 2025 15:47:00
Goodness you're all so negative. We blew Sunderland away, clear progress is being made, clearly we are going to smash them 3-0.
11 Oct 2025 06:55:35
The rumours us Bellingham is a bit Billy Big Boots, he's the man. He's clearly a great player but Tuchel seems very focused on the team as a whole, which is commendable.
10 Oct 2025 10:56:44
Yes, everything is awesome, we are amazing.
07 Oct 2025 11:42:11
It's part of our identity amd history, of course it's important, particularly for people from Manchester. That's not a dig, but after 80 (almost 90) years, yes, we need to ensure we always have at least 1 Academy player in every match day squad. Jeez, squads are massive now, and this is a hill I eill die on.