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08 Jan 2023 17:47:43
Latest rumour I've seen is we want Weghorst and Felix, which makes more sense to me. Options, and more creativity.

1.) 08 Jan 2023 18:26:33
That would do for now. Though not sure how felix would fit in our new wage structure?!

2.) 08 Jan 2023 22:07:35
how many players are a club allowed to loan in the PL?

3.) 09 Jan 2023 07:18:06
I wouldn't want Weghorst, but you have to trust the manager if he has identified him.

Joan Felix I think could be a fantastic signing. He doesn't fit the type of football being played at Atletico but he has all the minerals.

4.) 09 Jan 2023 07:46:44
I'd take both in a heartbeat. I'd take one in a heartbeat actually.
Neither are the ideal candidate but we need bodies up front.
Garnacho is a bonus and has stood in well for sancho but he is just a kid and the Ronaldo gap needs filling too.

5.) 09 Jan 2023 20:48:33
You are only allowed 2 loan signings and we already have butland, so it was never going to be both.
We probably moved onto weghorst when Felix was no longer an option.

6.) 10 Jan 2023 19:51:59
Wouldn’t touch Felix with a barge pole. His style and physical make up won’t suit the Prem one bit.

22 Jul 2022 10:00:09
Jesse Lingard.

Could have gone to West Ham and been at the upper end of the table fighting for Europe.

Decided to go to Forest for what will likely be a relgation dog fight. Hmm, I wonder why.

1.) 22 Jul 2022 10:13:20
I'd imagine it's so he doesn't have to move his family to London.

2.) 22 Jul 2022 10:18:30
A one year contract too. His agent was talking about PSG, Milan and Juventus interested in him a couple of months ago. Maybe the teams that actually did want him didn't match his ego.

I'm sure he thinks why not get paid handsomely for a year, finish top scorer and then join Madrid next year.

3.) 22 Jul 2022 10:25:00
Surprised he’s not gone on that Love Island!

4.) 22 Jul 2022 10:32:08
And only on a one season deal in case it's straight back down to the Championship. That over the MLS or trying to nudge his way back into the England set-up with West Ham as he was starting to do when on loan there.

5.) 22 Jul 2022 10:35:58
1 year contract on £200K a week plus signing n fee. He'll be able to do the same next year. Seems like the lad has done a pretty decent deal for himself.

6.) 22 Jul 2022 11:13:33
It's all about the money money money.

At least he will get game time. So many players move for money and see their careers die, Sinclair, Drinkwater spring to mind as examples.

7.) 22 Jul 2022 12:31:04
So much on Lingard all the time. Good luck to him if he's getting more money.

So what?

8.) 22 Jul 2022 13:32:13
He's not united so I don't care.

9.) 22 Jul 2022 15:47:46
Shappy is right, he isn’t allowed out of the house without his babysitter. Last time he gave them the slip he spent all his pocket money on chocolate and fizzy sweets. Best to keep him away from that London or he’ll be onto those American Candy stores and spend his £200k weekly wage on milk duds.

10.) 22 Jul 2022 16:28:28
Danny, I think you'll find that he has had to assume the care of his two school aged children while his mum was unable to care for them. On top of having a daughter of his own who lives with her mother after they split up.

Living in Nottingham means he is still close to his family.

While a big wage packet certainly won't do him any harm.

I'd imagine he will see it as an opportunity to stay close to his family earn a big wage and potentially put himself in the shop window for a club like Everton, Leicester or Newcastle.

11.) 22 Jul 2022 17:24:31
Shappy, trains to Nottingham from Manchester take 2 hours, the same time it takes to drive. 2 hours also for Leicester, 3 hours for Newcastle.

Trains to London take 2 hours, and are far more regular. Nottingham is not close to his family, but its a lot more lucrative.


same as driving,

12.) 22 Jul 2022 17:26:17
That should be school aged siblings.

13.) 22 Jul 2022 18:23:06
Poor babysitter has their work cut out. Get two kids to school and then back to cut the crusts off Jessie’s sandwich and get him down for a quick nap before training.

14.) 22 Jul 2022 19:52:32
This is some mad post about why an ex United player has signed for a football team ?

Has anybody here spoke with him? How would any of ye know and who cares why or why he didn't sign for a club.

Got get that money Jesse, enjoy yourself and keep being you.

15.) 22 Jul 2022 21:04:28
Couldn’t give a damn about what Jesse Lingard is doing. When he was coming through I liked the lad, but the past 2 seasons at least I’ve thought he was a git.

Forget him.

16.) 22 Jul 2022 21:08:05
Indeed. It’s his business and his alone. He’ll play every week, it’s a great traditional club, and he’ll be handsomely paid.

As for logistics, I’m sure he’ll work it out by himself ???.

17.) 22 Jul 2022 18:59:50
Despite all this, Lingard’s going straight into my FPL Team!

18.) 23 Jul 2022 13:57:49
Shappy is so busy now googling travel times to uphold the most ridiculous argument of the day?? nice one ajh. Lots to be said b
For knowing your geography??.

14 Nov 2021 08:56:04
I was told last night that Ole has agreed to step aside once a replacement has been found.

Don't know where this rumour came from but hopefully it has legs.

1.) 14 Nov 2021 09:22:12
It does seem like the club have used the international break and particularly Ole and the players not being there to assess their options and hopefully through intermediaries reach out to potential candidates to test the waters.

2.) 14 Nov 2021 10:11:33
I think there’s zero chance of Ole agreeing to step aside. If the club replace him, he’ll be getting compensated handsomely.

3.) 14 Nov 2021 11:56:13
If this is true, at least the club aren't rushing around and are taking their time to make a decision.

4.) 14 Nov 2021 16:05:17
I don’t doubt it Danny, but if it is true, at least Woody can crack on without having to be too secretive.

5.) 14 Nov 2021 18:29:34
Maybe he doesn't know he agreed to step aside, just sayin.

6.) 15 Nov 2021 11:22:14
Any truth to the Zidane rumours?

7.) 17 Nov 2021 08:11:26
TOHoM, only that it is true that they are rumours ?.

03 Aug 2019 14:20:49
I’ve loved reading the posts this week and for what it’s worth, here’s my view.

Maguire is not necessarily the greatest defender but he seems like a big character and as has been said he is better than what we have. The price is irrelevant to me, fees are soon forgotten (unlike wages) . I think he will settle quickly and make a difference.

AWB looks a quality buy in a position where we have struggled so I’m confident that will look a steal as the season progresses.

James has huge potential, looking forward to seeing how he develops.

Dybala I don’t want. No idea where it came from and we really shouldn’t be entertaining it. Fancy name, not pulled up any trees for a couple of years, really don’t see where he fits in.

Fernandes look quality and would be a good signing and if we are interested then I have no idea why it is taking so long.

We need to ship Pogba out as quickly as possible, assuming anyone has made any sort of sensible offer. I don’t buy the line that he’s really popular. If he isn’t committed to the cause then he needs to leave.

Sanchez also needs to go. I’d even let him go on a free or nominal fee as it would free up at least £15M because of his ridiculous contract.

Lukaku also needs to go and again I’d take the best offer that is on the table. We may lose on the fees but the benefit to team spirit and morale of shipping out players who don’t want to be her is immense. There’s a bunch of other players we need to move on and again we should make it attractive to potential buyers. Darmian and Rojo for starters.

Imagine those 5 gone, 4 new signings (I’m assuming a CM is coming), and a few from the youth promoted. The feel and mood will be lifted and with the extra fitness and energy, with everyone committed and pulling in the same direction, who knows where we will get to.

I fear there is not enough time left to move players on but for me that is just as important on bringing new ones in.

1.) 03 Aug 2019 14:37:38
It would be foolish to let pogba leave so late in the window, no chance we have enough time to obtain a replacement.

Saul would fit the bill, but that would be a complicated deal and there are questions marks over whether he would even want to come.

Are SMS or fernandes as good as pogba? if looked at objectively you would say they were not on his level.

Dybala is probably the clearest route to getting rid of lukaku as inter milan are unable to source the funds to do a deal, so this swap deal is a pretty good compromise to get rid of a player who doesn't fit oles style and bring in a player who does.

25, 5 year contract means we have plenty of scope to get a resale value when he inevitably pines for a move to madrid or Barcelona like pogba. Could be a shrewd bit of business by the club.

2.) 03 Aug 2019 14:49:29
DSG, if you put my reservations aside, Ed002 has said Dybala doesn’t want to come. If he’s having to be convinced then we shouldn’t do it,

3.) 03 Aug 2019 15:15:18
Tony do you honestly expect Dybala to happily want to leave a team with Ronaldo and several stars which is guaranteed at least a major trophy and also UCL football every season and come over to us because we are Manchester United?

That ship has sailed!

No matter how attractive a team is, it still has to make an effort to appeal to a prospective player.

4.) 03 Aug 2019 15:18:42
I honestly think you will be surprised how many player would not want to join us this summer. No champions league is a big loss especially in a window where bayern, real, Barcelona and juve are all making big deals.

Look at sancho, he realised that coming to united this window would be not be ideal for his development when we are undergoing significant changes and his development was much better suited staying at dortmund.

Does that mean we shouldn't go in for him next summer when we will still need to convince him we are the right club with the right stability for him to continue his development?

Dybala is an oppurtune signing granted but if he does join it won't be against his will, quite a few player over the year have needed to be convinced/ persuaded to join clubs.

5.) 03 Aug 2019 15:23:18
I really don't get why people would wants Pogba to stay. Old may say all the right things about Pogba having a great attitude blah blah blah, but the player clearly wants out.
If we keep hold of him against his wishes we will just have the same circus every transfer window. It's unsettling for everyone, including Old, despite what he may say in public.

Pogba is obviously talented and is a match winner on his day. I understand that, but keeping an unhappy player is counter productive.

On the flip side, we shouldn't be forced to sell him on the cheap. But over inflating his price so that he is effectively priced out of a more is daft in my opinion.

Despite the fact that some fans 'hero worship' some players, Pogba is not worthy of that label. Talent is nothing without application, effort and desire and Mr Pogba is severely lacking in the later.

6.) 03 Aug 2019 15:35:43
Until last week his name hadn’t come up, nobody on here had suggested we try and buy him or he would add anything to our team. Now suddenly many are drooling over him and I don’t get it. We should have learned from Di Maria. He doesn’t want to come, allegedly he wants £350K a week, allegedly his agent wants £13M, it’s possibly taken our focus from Fernandes. The only positive I can see is we lose Lukaku, that’s about it.

I don’t really buy the Champions League argument. Actually I do buy it and it hacks me off. There’s only a few teams that will win it, and there seems to be a snobbishness that has materialised with players ‘not wanting to take a step down’. I’m not sure how we’ve allowed it to become so important, for me the domestic title is still the biggest trophy by far.

7.) 03 Aug 2019 15:37:47
Of course he needs convincing AJH. He is not a fan like is. He is at a top club where his life family and friends are and you think a good pitch and lots of reassurances are not required.
You don't seem to be the sort of chap to make knee jerk life changing decisions without due consultation and thought process and advice. Do you think dybala should?

8.) 03 Aug 2019 15:56:18
Is aguero not a good example why is it always di Maria.
Do people think aguero was a life long city fan desperate to move to a team that had won nothing for years?
Or did him and his agent need a bit of convincing and a bucket of cash .

I'm not saying we should or shouldn't sign him but there's a bit of a line in the sand starting with one or 2 players,

9.) 03 Aug 2019 16:02:27
Of course he's reluctant. We're not exactly known for stability are we. He enjoys life in Italy and is reluctant to leave. But Juve are forcing him out.

10.) 03 Aug 2019 16:03:54
Madrid have been making sensible offers for Pogba throughout this window.

UTD think they can get more with very little other clubs being able to afford him.

Only a few clubs or so at the over inflated fee and wages able to afford Pogba which sees UTD keeping a player who wants to leave *evil laugh*.

Barcelona not going to sign Pogba.

11.) 03 Aug 2019 16:09:33
What offers have real made?

12.) 03 Aug 2019 16:24:59
Guys AJH has a point. The problem is not there is a convincing required for Dybala. But why to convince a player who is not seen as much needed who is not willing to move to us who will demand monstrous wage who has stalled for the past year. If it is someone who we have identified as main target it's worth going through the trouble. Imagine we sign him and has not really worked out then we will have another player on 350k wages very difficult to move.

13.) 03 Aug 2019 16:35:27
I said the same to shappy last week jred.
People are saying don't sign him he doesn't want to be here. Yet those same purple are saying keep pogba even though he doesn't want to be here.
If dybala comes and he and the team are successful he will love it at United. Just like aguero has done.
Im not desperate for him to sign if he does it would be potentially a very good and exciting signing.

14.) 03 Aug 2019 17:00:59
My wider point is he hadn't been mentioned by anybody, the fans hadn't suggested him nor were the club pursuing him. Suddenly a swap is on, not exactly thought through is it?

15.) 03 Aug 2019 17:02:49
You could say the same with pogba, if go his and uniteds way he may have a change in heart .
Not sure why everything needs to be set in stone .
I'm far from convince dybala would be a good fit in the epl, who who knows.

16.) 03 Aug 2019 17:11:34
Is it possible for a player to come in, not really wanting to come in at first and then change his mind? If he is the consummate professional, he might also put in some decent performances.

Also, he could just say no right now?

17.) 03 Aug 2019 18:00:01
Ajh
He was mentioned a few month ago, don't know if the reports where true but he was linked a few months back.
But some times a player becomes available and you take a chance, any Cole, king Eric.

Angel
Is it possible that a player wants to leave then circumstances change and he changes his mind, Or do we hold it against him for the rest of his career.

18.) 03 Aug 2019 18:01:09
The club have had interest in dybala for 12 months according to ed002. i'm not convinced but he is a very talented player so if he settles it could work out.
Pogba is here and if he stays and does well he may well have a change of heart i agree but i'm not one for keeping unhappy players it usually doesn't work out. We can on my hope it does if he stays.

19.) 03 Aug 2019 19:33:15
Hi jred, not at all. I think if a player has a change of heart and wants to stay, put in the performances etc, he should most definitely get the chance. I think that's quite fair. But definitely no point keeping a player that is unhappy and wants to move. Does this answer work?

Is there a particular player you are talking about or just anyone in general?

20.) 03 Aug 2019 20:00:04
Angel
To many to mention to be honest once any one makes a mistake or reportedly does you want them out.
Lazy bad attitude said this said that.

21.) 03 Aug 2019 20:17:14
No, I'd like you to mention them. Very happy to give you my reasons behind everyone.

I'm quite sure that when I have shown my dissatisfaction in a player it is usually merited, justified.

I don't call for players to be bought and sold like in a game of FIFA.

I also am very happy to back good, hard working and loyal players when many dont. Again, when I feel its justified.

Feels like you're just having a pop though. It's something you like to do quite often. I hope I haven't upset you at any point. Or will you hold my opinions against me for the rest of my time posting on here? 😊.

22.) 03 Aug 2019 22:15:30
We have appointed Director of football - it's AJH

All sound decisions taken. 🤫.

23.) 04 Aug 2019 09:23:15
Reading the page the last day or two it’s clear we don’t need any insight from Ed002 as maxlfc knows absolutely everything about our club lol.

24.) 04 Aug 2019 20:42:32
Oh man :P
Wrote a post about how the youngsters are doing, and how you feel about them and this turned into Pogba/ Dybala debate.

25.) 05 Aug 2019 07:31:02
To be honest guys I don't care and the reason is we are focusing on players not playing for our club.
When the focus should be #GlazersOut.

24 Mar 2018 10:31:23
There are some that said Jesse wasn’t good enough and I guess there are still some that think he is at best a squad player but you have to give the lad credit. He keeps popping up scoring important goals and he plays with a smile on his face and seems to enjoy every moment. I’m so pleased for him and I hope he can take that final step and be consistent.

1.) 24 Mar 2018 16:25:04
He has always been highly thought off within the club. It was always accepted that he would take longer to find his feet due to his size. I read an interview with him where he said that Sir Alex always said he would become a real player when he's 25 like Tigana. I wonder how much of him really stepping up this season is down to him feeling that this year was going to be his year.

I did worry when we signed Sanchez as it was going to push either Lingard or Martial out of the side when arguably they we our best two forwards at that time. Maybe its time for Sanchez to be dropped for a game or two and make him fight for his place against players who are in form.

2.) 24 Mar 2018 16:40:40
Shaps, I don’t know why we bought Sanchez other than to stop City buying him. We had needs inother areas way before a left sided attacker was needed and even if he starts firing it just relegates Martial or Rashford. This smacks of Woodward and his marque signing obsession. I don’t want to upset you but if Bale is available you can bet your mortgage Ed will be there waving his chequebook.

3.) 24 Mar 2018 16:46:51
The thing with Jesse is you know he will work on the pitch and not hide. He has proven this year that he has more in the locker than people thought imo but he had the beginnings of a good season couple of years back when he got ani injury early on at Swansea I think. Change of personel and management has not deterred him and I think he has saved us a good few bob on bringing in a n other player.

4.) 24 Mar 2018 16:58:44
I was one of those thinking he wasn't going to be up to it and would be sold, at times I feel foolish, but then he can be anonymous far too often for me (like most of our attacking players) .

I still think in order for us to be competing at the very top we need better than Lingard. But if he improves again as much as he has over the past 18 months then he will deserve a regular berth in a top Utd team.

I love his energy and clever runs, maybe there is even more to come from him once we get back to playing proper attacking football and those runs will be picked out by players that currently refuse the pass and opt for 'safety' instead. I certainly would like him to impact games more consistently as well, 10 seconds of brilliance now and again is good, but we need more than that over a 90 minute match from an attacking midfielder.

5.) 24 Mar 2018 17:39:38
I agree Beastand that was my point about consistency. When he is good he is very good but often you can forget he is on the pitch, which is very frustrating when he gets himself in such good positions and scores such important goals. He needs to turn up for more games than he does, which I think he will if he continues to develop as he has done in the last year. And he is home grown which means a lot to me,

6.) 24 Mar 2018 17:52:11
Does he go missing or as mentioned above is it a case of him making good runs and his team mates not playing the creative pass to find him?

The best players score in the big games, which he does more consistently than those around him. H deserves his place in the team, he works hard, he offers movement and he can finish. I think he will thrive if we add more quality to the midfield. He is a bit of a social media whore, but as long as he performs on the pitch it’s not a problem. I wish pogba put half the effort in he does.

7.) 24 Mar 2018 18:33:58
Agree with all of the posts regarding jesse in some degree, better than dele alli in my opinion who plays a similar role especially this season.

8.) 25 Mar 2018 05:21:49
I must be the only one who doesn't yet rate him. He for me is going through his Smalling patch where player looks good for a season or 2 but with lingard it has only been 2 months rather than the whole season.

He was mostly anonymous until December and has been anonymous for most part since February. That is 2 good months in 3-4 years. Yes he scores some important goals from time to time but he going to have to perform much better to be more than a squad player.

9.) 25 Mar 2018 16:58:04
No MU player apart from De Gea has been sensational for long, playing good for some time and then playing poorly.

10.) 26 Mar 2018 14:14:47
CSM, that's not really fair, even if he's only started looking like a real top player this season, he's actually been doing well for the last couple of years. He was hardly "anonymous" before December anyway. 8 goals and assists in 17 games, 11 of which he played 30 minutes or less in, may not be setting the league on fire, but it's certainly not "anonymous".

Re: the consistency, I'm inclined to agree with Huggy. He's suffering from the way the team is playing, and would have a much more consistent impact if the runs he makes were picked out a bit more often by players behind him. Now, I'm not saying he's doing everything right, maybe he'd still be a bit inconsistent with players behind him looking for those runs and playing more positive football, but the point is that we don't really know, and I don't think it's fair to judge him too harshly when we don't really know how much of the inconsistency is down to him, and how much is down to the way the teamas a whole is playing.

I would really love to see Herrera used in a more advanced role, ahead of Matic rather than alongside him, where he can look to play the passes that someone like Lingard can feed on. It's too easy to see his great defensive performances last season and forget that he's a great passer of the ball, with an eye for getting team mates in behind the defence.

11.) 26 Mar 2018 14:23:10
That FA cup winning goal seemed to really kick him on and he’s improved a lot since then.

CSM,

How you can say he’s been anonymous is beyond me, he’s probably scored more important goals than any other player in the last 2 years.

12.) 26 Mar 2018 14:53:27
Gds important goals don't mean consistency. Yes he scored against Chelsea and in fa cup final but can you remember a run of games until December where you could say he was consistently good. A first team player needs to be consistently good and unlike rashford or martial lingard isn't exactly in the youngster category.

Thorne he has been good this season but last season he had 5 goals and 3 assists in 42 games in lvg's last season he had 7 goals and 4 assists in 41 games. Those are not good figures and he needs get similar to his current nos before we can be sure that he has improved rather than going through a purple patch.

Also where exactly will he play next season jose wants savic added to the team and jorginho as replacement for carrick, so we most likely will be switching to a mf 3.

13.) 30 Mar 2018 18:44:50
Good player, nice lad, silly dancer.

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11 May 2025 19:52:59
Dont worry everyone, Amorim has a plan. Since he took over we have got worse, our League position is an embarrassment, and people want to blame Ole and ETH. Deluded.

1.) 11 May 2025 20:30:12
Why is it deluded to blame the ones who spent a fortune to take the club backwards? They all had at least two seasons, so we surely need to wait at least that long to judge Amorim.

2.) 11 May 2025 20:32:19
We aren’t genuinely judging him on league games where the players are playing to not get injured for the cup final though are we? We have one game left that means anything, we’ve had one competition that means anything for quite a while, I get it’s frustrating but I’d happily lose all remaining league games 20-0 if we win in Bilbao.

This isn’t his team, he didn’t want the job until summer we know that, so judge him after that. If he somehow wins the Europa league after an unbeaten season with this team he will prove he can work miracles.

3.) 11 May 2025 20:33:05
What’s your honest opinion on him? I’m not sure. He talks a good game but hasn’t backed that up with evidence that convinces me. I get he came in mid season, I get the squad doesn’t suit him and I get a lot of those players need to go but is all that 6 wins from 24 games bad? I’m not so sure.

4.) 11 May 2025 21:01:15
I think he is out of his depth, the team and displays have been awful.
And I don't buy this playing not to get injured narative, we have been dreadful for some time.

He has one way of playing, it isn't working and he has no other ideas. Losing so many games, leading to our worst finish since we were relegated in 1974, that's over 50 years ago shocking.

Winning the Europa has huge benefits financially, but it doesn't mask that Amorim seems to have no clue. When did we accept this level of cr4p performances, losing at home to so many teams.

I like him, he's a nice guy, but I have no confidence he has a clue.

5.) 11 May 2025 21:41:09
Deserves until at least Christmas after a summer of transfers - whether Ineos have the balls to perform open heart surgery is another thing - or he has to go.

He has shown no tactical variety, nor has improved the players we have. Whether they fit the system or not, he should still be coaching to improve the team.

Two wins since January in the league, against Ipswich and Leicester is inexcusable. We are not a cup team, despite clearly some fans settling for our league position for some silverware. What do you think will be remembered longer? A Europa League title, or potential 17th place finish?

Put it this way, no one talks about the Europa League win under Jose any more.

6.) 11 May 2025 21:58:47
The team hasn’t been built for the system he’s trying to play

And the players we have it’s clear to see which ones can’t be coached to the system and need moving on and replaced

We’ve been garbage for years and the team has been able to turn up in one off games now and again just like we have in the europa league

There is a reason he didn’t want to come till the summer


They don’t care about the prem games you can see it in the way we perform


Players that are at the club that should have been sold 3 years ago are still there in other clubs they get rid.

We’ve kept martial 5 years longer than we should, gave him a new deal ?

This has been coming. hopefully we finish 17th will show what kind of ambition Ineos have

The worst united team in prem history

But let’s sack another manager and keep repeating ay….

7.) 11 May 2025 22:08:46
I honestly don't understand some people. Do you really think a coach can come in mid-season and turn around years of mis-management and poor recruitment. We've a horribly constructed squad that only could play counter attack and without any control. If Amorim just went with that approach then results this year would've been better, but what is the point in getting 7th or 8th. He's building for next year. He also had numerous forwards loaned out that would've been starters in order to build for the future. Not to mention McT being sold without those goals being replaced. If you look at lots of performance metrics we are actually getting better. We're just not taking our chances.

8.) 11 May 2025 23:10:05
So the rinse and repeat brigade are out despite a near-miracle by RA to get us in Champions League

Head wobble.

9.) 11 May 2025 23:12:46
I refuse to believe the issue at the club in the league are because of another manager. If we win the Europa league nobody will care less about where we finish in the league, what will be remembered will be our 6th major European trophy in the history of the club I assure you. In fact I think it would be hilarious if we finish 17th (I think we will) and win the EL as the meltdown from other clubs will be hilarious, they are already saying the EL winner shouldn’t get CL now just because it’s us, I’d love us to rub it in even more.

10.) 12 May 2025 00:17:56
@donnred. Plenty of managers have done exactly that your point makes no sense at all. Wolves and Everton have been like new teams with new managers brought in.

Amorim may come good but for what it's worth atm call a spade a spade, it has been a disastrous showing in the league with many players seeming fk go backwards since he came in.

11.) 12 May 2025 04:29:37
I stopped watching us in the league a while ago and not surprised. I like him, his honesty etc etc. We will see lots of changes this summer, he will have the early part of next year to show he can manage in this league to a certain level as a United manager, which means he has to win a lot more games than he losses or he will be gone imo.

Don't kid yourselves that its all the players and we need 20 new ones and amorim is a saint, not happening and plenty of managers have shown they can do a lot better with squads a lot worse than ours.

Time to enjoy the Europa final and for his sake and the fan base and the club, I prey we win. He will get some equity and more time in the bank with a win otherwise it will get very toxic very quickly next year if anything like what we are seeing at the moment continues.

12.) 12 May 2025 06:03:11
The players are crap no doubt, not good enough for sure… but Amorim hasn’t been good either! Why does it have to be one or the other?

13.) 12 May 2025 06:59:00
The last few years of SAF were those of a declining team, destroyed by no value in the market Glazernomics. We have spent years putting the wrong managers in, starting with Moyes, who I bet they thought would do ok with little money. These last 12 years were ridiculous, manager and player recruitment wise. We have tried to repeat what SAF brought, despite not realising he was unique and old fashioned. We have ex players like Scholes criticising every manager except Ole because they were blinded by SAF. Instead of breaking the mold and looking forward we kept trying and expecting more of the same.

Two years ago we struggled to score goals under ETH and made a complete mess in recruitment. We have chosen someone to reform the club, to do the open heart surgery, and he still has the players that got ETH sacked. Why on Earth is anyone surprised?

I see he said we need to be bold or brave in summer. Too right, years of terrible mismanagement, including last summer by sunny Jims mob have brought us here.

The alternative AJH wants is to twist again, which will create more of a mess.

14.) 12 May 2025 07:17:33
Agree with ajh. Nice person but completely out of his depth. Has to be moved on in the summe regardless of the europa outcome.
The people who brought him in need to be looked at as well. Ineos so far have got every bid decision wrong.

15.) 12 May 2025 07:43:38
I think AJH is saying that they just appointed the wrong man Red Man, that's it.

I mean it's hard to argue for him unless you like how he speaks, dresses and some of the football he played at Sporting.

We were told on here, by the apparent knowledgeable ones, including yourself that the coach was the big problem, that he didn't have a clue how to manage the team, the players. How we have a good squad and are only a few signings away. But yet, on the face of it, since RAs arrival, we look worse, and that's not an opinion but back up by stats. We are touching off of 17th. I mean, what does it say about the quality of the Europa that spurs and united are in the final.

All I've heard are excuses, blaming the squad, blaming ETH, Ole, he came in mid season, hasn't got his own players etc. well he has been in charge now for 38 games, that's not just a few weeks trying to figure out the squad and style. That is concrete.

He has called out the club and the squad on numerous occasions, IMO that never ends well for any manager. And only yesterday he is now saying if he has a bad start, then find someone else.

I'm not advocating for him being sacked. But again, as I said months ago, the excuses for the man is incredible.

But hey, maybe we are just uneducated, that's what was said in the live chat went yesterday.

16.) 12 May 2025 08:23:16
Bang on the money there, Red Man. I am astounded that some want to go for yet another rinse-and-repeat option so soon. This isn't a computer game!

17.) 12 May 2025 08:58:33
I’m more surprised we’re still debating the same stuff every week after every match.

Let’s see what he and the club do in the summer and winter windows coming up. A good 60% of this squad needs shipping out and replacing with new blood. If its still the same old in May 2026, we know the answer.

18.) 12 May 2025 09:12:02
Banging on about stats

We have actually had higher expected goals against the teams we keep losing against

The problem is we can put the ball in the net because our forwards are garbage.

Twice yesterday hojland should have scored if that’s a Kane or even a mid striker he scores 2 easily.

Let’s put aside our emotions for a minuite and actually look at the games.



We’ve been the better side in most and have lost due to poor finishing and for some reason with us whenever we lose a ball or a bad pass and the other team break it always leads to a goal.

19.) 12 May 2025 09:16:33
Eric that's absolutely fine, let him have a good window and pre season in and hopefully a 180 can be done because that's what he will need.

He seems like a lovely man so I do hope it works out for him.

20.) 12 May 2025 09:16:37
If that’s the case Eric and we buy a host of new players (doubt it considering our financials) what happens if he isn’t good enough and we sack him?! We are then left again with a group of players who most likely won’t suit the next manager either and have to repeat the process again, not too many play a 3-4-3 so that’s a high possibility.

21.) 12 May 2025 09:57:43
If Amorim is criticised some here get very defensive but starting with 2 no 10s yesterday was wrong, he has no idea what to do with Mainoo who is an excellent player. I love Amad but he's not a wing back. I have never before seen a system that seems to require such special-ist footballers that most of the current squad can't adapt to. We are never set up to player strengths but to a system.

22.) 12 May 2025 10:46:34
Let the summer transfer window and one more season to adequately judge RA. Hjolind and Onana have cost Utd at least 20 points from being so poor. Then you can add the rest of the team into the mix. There's only really Yoro, Amad, Heaven, Mazraoui and Bruno who have played well. The rest are hit and miss.

23.) 12 May 2025 11:02:01
Just goes to show xG is a rubbish statistic.

24.) 12 May 2025 11:43:37
Bolger, same could be said for ETH at the start of this season. We created a lot of chances but couldn't put the ball in the net.

"Banging on about stats"

The only stat that matters is winning football matches. He has won 6 in the premier league and 3 of those were against relegated sides. He has had 25 matches.

Something tells me that calling a squad or team the worst we have ever had in the premier league might not work. It looks like they have believed it.

25.) 12 May 2025 14:00:12
Sorry to criticise you Keefy but the only people who say xG is a rubbish statistic are those who don't understand how to apply it. It is an extremely useful and insightful one when viewing about games in retrospect. E. g. Garnacho has a reasonable xG but his goals output is far below his xG. This says he is good at getting into the right positions but really bad at converting those changes. It can give insights into which types of shots he should be working on etc.

26.) 12 May 2025 15:02:21
I like him a lot, and have hope he'll turn things round next season.

But let's not pretend there aren't problems with him.

I think people are so keen to pin their colours to a particular manager they like, in the hope they can say, 'I told you so', that they seem to take it personally when any legitimate criticism is aimed at the manager.

It's not North Korea, folks.

27.) 12 May 2025 15:31:14
Ten hag should have been given more time. I always said it. but the club took the decision to give Amorim an ultimatum of join now or never.

Sure the manager has made some mistakes like everyone does but once those players step onto the pitch it’s their responsibility to play to the maximum



Why’s it always the manager that gets the boot when it’s the same players that finished the season in 8th? Fa cup papered over the cracks

It might be best for us to lose next week some players like to fool us in thinking they can still perform at the level needed to get us back up in the top 6 never mind top 4.


The manager isn’t the issue and he wasn’t the issue last season either.

The same core group of players are still here like a disease…


We’re all entitled to our opinions.

But I fully believe with a better front 3 and a better keeper we would be much better placed.

We’ve got some decent young players who unfortunately for them are playing with what you would call senior players who let's face it are not fit to wear the shirt.

But 12 years of bad decision making in both manager recruitment and player recruitment has got us to where we are now.

I remember when Luke shaw gave an interview years ago saying they lack motivation becoase the season www basically done because they couldn’t win anything

And yet he is still here at the club…

Jose said it years ago and tried to tell the club about certain players that needed to be sold but the manager was undermined and eventually lost his job

Ralf spoke out about heart surgery and was given the boot. ten hag spoke about the mentality of some of these players that are still here.

We’re never going to change if we keep changing managers


The guy needs to be given a chance to bring in his own team and construct a squad on his idea and way of playing.

I’m glad we are where we are because the same group of players who have been fooling the majority of the fans for years shouldn’t be able to fool anymore

This is the worst Manchester United squad in prem history. yet some play like that done give a crap.

They will probably turn up next week like they have been doing for years in the odd games.

And some on here will be singing there praise. I couldn’t care less if we win or lose, they don’t deserve to win anything this lot. And we are very lucky the bottom 3 and the teams that come up from the championship are so poor.

Sure Amorim has made his own mistakes but he deserves a fair crack at the whip before we start calling for his head.

Win or lose next week Ineos need to have a big window and he as ruthless with players sold as they have been with the people that have lost their jobs.

28.) 12 May 2025 18:51:40
Nou

It’s not about “like”, it’s that he has conviction in his way of playing and won’t change like ETH did, he has a vision. We have waited years for someone like this, knew there would be pain, yet now want to run away from it saying just get someone in who will bring back the SAF days.

29.) 12 May 2025 19:15:14
Red Man, I was expecting pain. But I'll be honest, I didn't expect it to be 16th or 17th in the league pain.

Like I said, I'm more than happy to give him the benefit of the doubt until he can get the squad shaped the way he wants, but let's not kid ourselves that he hasn't underachieved to a degree. The players might not be the best in everyone's view, but they're probably better than the players at Wolves, Everton and West Ham.

30.) 12 May 2025 22:55:14
I totally understand xG. Doesn't mean it’s not rubbish.

It is based far too much on subjective input and therefore totally unreliable in its output.

31.) 13 May 2025 08:46:46
You're just wrong Keefy. As someone who actually works with it, I can categorically state that. Apart from what I said earlier, xG also proves a more useful metric (with slight modifications) to predict future performance than goals output. Just thrashing it when the clubs that embraced it earlier like Brentford, Brighton and the likes are using it systematically and punching far above their weight is just plain silly. It is a major reason that clubs like United have struggled in recent years. If you actually paid attention you'd realize that behind the scenes a revamp of our data science department is happening exactly because of this.

28 Apr 2025 08:46:54
It shows how apathetic everyone is when there are no posts about a game.

With a top striker we would have likely won yesterday but only once they went down to 10 men.

Ruben has a formation, he refuses to change or adapt it, even when it isn't working, a formtion that no other top team plays.
That makes him either a messiah or an idiot.

A lot of other clubs looked at Ruben and decided not to pursue him, you wonder what they saw, or didn't see.

It took SAF over 3 years to show real progress, but times are different now, all EPL clubs have cash, and the days of us picking off the best players are long gone.

I really don't know what to make of it. RA appears to have had very little impact on results, and yet here we are with a semi final coming up. ?‍♂️

I am yet to be convinced.

1.) 28 Apr 2025 10:38:09
I agree that the PL season is dribbling to a close and that the current standard of performance is not good enough in the long term. However, I also think that there has been and continues to be marked improvement in the performances. Most games, United are the better team and would be winning, with better finishing and more refinement in the attacking patterns/ better decision making in the final third.

We have played a sequence of games in recent weeks against teams that beat us comprehensively over the pre and post Xmas period. This has been reversed in 3 months.

You may be right that RA needs to show more tactical flexibility, I would argue he has tweaked a little already. Our biggest problem is scoring goals and the need for Bruno to play 2 or 3 different positions each game to try to create something. By and large the defence is ok, not great but ok, with Yoro likely to be a real asset next year. The midfield is solid, but not very creative, except when Bruno drops deep, and only one of the front 3 (Bruno, again) looks a good fit for the system, in the absence of Amad. The goalkeeper is a liability btw.

I think the jury is out on whether RA is the answer, time will tell, but I see clear progress. We outplayed Bournemouth yesterday for most of the game. At Old Trafford in December they beat us so comprehensively it was embarrassing. That's progress. Not as much as we'd like, but it is progress and I don't see how changing manager again would help, so we need to be patient.

2.) 28 Apr 2025 11:14:57
Well said Bert.
AJH, your dislike for RA is becoming predictably boring.

3.) 28 Apr 2025 11:30:24
Very fair post Bert.
Nobody can be happy with the points return this season.
A full pre season and getting some of the rubbish signed and getting a few players in will make a big difference you would think next season.
I feel that we might struggle to get the goals needed to beat bilbao but we have been better in Europe so fingers crossed. Fjords really is tyke worst set of goal scorers amd forwards available to a united manager in my living memory.
Tyke worst 1st choice keeper amd some of the least creative midfielders ever. Two successive seasons with neg goal difference tells you that.

4.) 28 Apr 2025 12:34:35
I don't dislike him Jimbo, I actually really do like him, I just don't think he's shown us anything yet to make us optimistic.

5.) 28 Apr 2025 12:51:34
Jesus AJH.

What a rank bad post. I guess everybody has to have a pet hate. But I would have thought drivers that undertake or queue jumpers would be better than a Man Utd manager whose been in post less than a year, has woeful attacking options, and did not want to join until end of the season.

For one, I admire him. He sticks to his beliefs, is honest and open and is a breath of fresh air. The team is improving, and I have no doubt will improve dramatically next season.

6.) 28 Apr 2025 13:22:54
AJH so is your post basically to tell us that you are confused?

7.) 28 Apr 2025 13:23:37
You sees what you sees.

I've re-read my opening post and I can't see why some of you are getting your knickers twisted.

I sincerely hope he is the next Mourinho, time will tell.

8.) 28 Apr 2025 14:05:24
Wouldn't worry about it AJH its still the honeymoon manager can do no wrong period there's been loads to be concerned about with Amo so far but some people can't bring themselves to doubt the manager . hopefully Amo will move up a few gears nxt season getting rid of Hoijlund amd replacing him with an actual decent striker will make a huge difference.

9.) 28 Apr 2025 14:51:57
RA will do just fine, no team is winning anything with zero goalscorers a clown in goal and fridge carrying centrebacks, once he gets the tools he will be just fine.

10.) 28 Apr 2025 16:03:19
Told ya German fella ill wager over that its no the Glazers running the footy side now where every manager gets years and hundreds of millions to spend before been judged i think the Jim fellas ruthless still gash by nxt Oct/ Nov by that i mean mid table he's gone Ano will need to step up massively nxt season straight from the 1st kick off.

11.) 28 Apr 2025 16:19:01
BRD I get more pee'd off with the driver that hogs the lane, forcing somebody to 'undertake'.

12.) 28 Apr 2025 17:42:40
Not a chance Brum… SJR won’t be so silly, they made a decision to make drastic change and try new style although I never wanted SJR even he won’t pull the plug on his own decision a year in, they made drastic mistakes so far they not going to add another that early he will get all next season without a doubt.

13.) 28 Apr 2025 20:06:42
I dunno how sold he is on Amo he wasnt in the picture during the summer when Tuchel etc got interviewed for the gig hopefully Amo will improve and take the decision out of Jims hands . Ill see what the odds are in the summer might be worth a cheeky 20 on Amo been 1st in the sackrace specially if he doesn't win the Europa tho i think UTD will.

14.) 28 Apr 2025 20:51:51
AJH, we must be watching different games. From what I have seen, compared to the last 10-15yrs, is semblance of cohesion starting to grow shoots.
He has taken that dross he inherited and rid the club of the players causing problems.
He has taken the balance of the squad, riddles with injuries again, and pieces together a run in Europa that might end in UCL next year.
When he started the whole team was underperforming, now we have a GK and ST problem to urgently address.
All I see is progress.

15.) 29 Apr 2025 07:36:36
Yes Jimbo, if no one can see progress it also leaves me baffled, ok we are still not very good or even good, but 100% it can be seen what we are trying to achieve, I certainly like what I see, but as I said from the day they were signed, Rasmus is poor striker I said he was a 1 in 6 striker, Jesus he is much worse, I also never rated the clown in goal and he gives clowns a bad name. Add slow CBs to that and not even a 2nd striker any manager in the world would struggle with any system
Clearly a plan was set for a reset and clearly it’s happening, all we all need to do is hope it transpires, but I am not sure how anyone can say they can’t see a change and progress…. I personally thought the play under ETH was abysmal and much much worse.

16.) 29 Apr 2025 19:22:28
I think if any football fans without prior knowledge of our manager were taken aside after watching us for the last half a year were told that Sean Dyche was in charge, they wouldn't argue with you.

I love Amorim's character. It's impossible to judge him right now, he said last week that a few months ago he'd maybe had his first thoughts about whether he should have been stronger and insisted on only coming at the end of the season.

But I'm also highly positive that there will be a massive improvement once he gets a full pre-season and summer transfer window to himself. Each signing in his vision literally improves the team, in theory and I'm looking forward to seeing what's next. We're not going to tear it up for a while, but I'd like to think we can get the season many of us thought we were getting this season.

21 Apr 2025 18:36:51
I have a question for the experts on here. Has any Manager, appointed during a season, secured fewer points per game, than RA? Asking for a friend.

1.) 21 Apr 2025 18:44:10
RVN mate, Juric this season alone.

2.) 21 Apr 2025 19:00:20
Ruud van Nistelrooy.

3.) 21 Apr 2025 19:02:59
Ruud?

4.) 21 Apr 2025 19:19:09
Colin Todd for Derby in 2001 did pretty terribly from memory. Was hired and replaced within the season.

5.) 21 Apr 2025 20:03:20
I love this. So basically, RVN who has seen Leicester relegated without scoring at home for god knows how many games, and Colin Todd from 25 years ago.

6.) 21 Apr 2025 22:47:11
It's been disappointing no doubt. A very difficult period for the club both on and off the pitch. One of the worst seasons i can remember since I started supporting in the mid seventies and it's been bitter pill to swallow after bitter pill. I am very hopeful that in 18 months time we will be in a much better place. We have a great crop of young players at the club so recruitment to compliment them and the likes of Bruno will be crucial. I think RA is an excellent young coach and will build and develop a squad and team that will be in a position to compete. Qualifying for cl next season would boost those hopes further. Unlike previous summers I think the club will be ruthless in shipping players out. I'm not anything other than hopeful of us winning the europa league. It's hard to see us scoring enough goals although we have scored more in europa league games.

7.) 22 Apr 2025 06:59:54
OP Making the case to show how bad the manager is, without taking into account all the factors. Some on here were cheering to for Ruud to stay as well.
RA is an excellent young coach who I believe will restore us to challenging if we stick with him. Didn’t SAF finish 11th twice and 13th in his early years? I would argue the club is in as big a mess as then, albeit slightly different problems. They wanted a philosophy so appointed RA, utter madness not to carry it through.

8.) 22 Apr 2025 11:17:03
I didn't suggest sacking him, I was expressing some surprise at how poor results have been. You would have expected some sort of bounce yet I haven't seen it

And again, he has a formation that none of the top teams play, perhaps he knows something they don't.

Lovely guy, but I remain unconvinced.

9.) 22 Apr 2025 11:52:12
I’m with AJH on this one. I’ve seen nothing yet to suggest he’ll be here for the long haul. I’d happily eat my hat and anything else if he proves me wrong but not seeing it myself.

I saw a stat today regarding the wolves manager. He’s picked up 16 more points in the same time he’s been at wolves and beaten us twice along the way.
Playing the same style. Are wolves’ players that much better than ours?

I also keep seeing ‘we’ll be better off in 18 months time’. What’s happening over the next 18 months to suggest we’re going to be better off?

10.) 22 Apr 2025 13:09:42
Been some questionable displays, no doubt, but looking at it closely, lately we have seen an improvement. We create a lot more chances inside the box now, retain possession better and create more chances against low block teams than 3-4 months ago, just can't put them away

I think since we had fewer games and more intensive training there's definitely been an improvement, not drastic, but glimpses.

11.) 22 Apr 2025 13:22:09
We just have to hope, that when RA gets the tools he needs, we start to witness that he is and will be a good coach. Yes on one hand he should have picked up more points since arriving, but on the other hand the squad is awful got worst GK in the league and worst striker/ s and what’s the point in RA changing his philosophy just for this season to what get 5-6 extra points, hopefully he is building even if in his own head and we start next season much better, could hardly be worse!
If by this time next year we are still this crap, well then yes he is gone and we move on again!
All those who loved ETH and that was most on here, he really decimated this club, I said all along the players he was letting go, the replacements were absolutely worse! But that history now, let’s hope the future gets brighter….
I’m hoping more with my heart than my head we win the Europa, we desperately need CL next season.

12.) 22 Apr 2025 14:32:49
AJH, you can't point out a negative on here regarding RA or you'll be accused of asking him to get the sack. Or ploughing your own furrow, right ken? ? Or are AJH and I ploughing it together lol.

It's been worse than poor.

I really hope he turns this around, but like you I remain unconvinced.

13.) 22 Apr 2025 14:34:32
Redman, the utter madness could be appointing a coach who has only coached in the Portuguese league and bringing 2 assistants with him, 28 and 30 and then persisting with a formation that doesn't seem to work.

Either that or our genius but so far it's looking like the latter. Fingers crossed he can change it around.

14.) 22 Apr 2025 14:35:28
2 toms, good post.

15.) 22 Apr 2025 15:20:32
Fans need to be patient. Season doesn't matter now other than winning europa - and no, that will not be easy.

The club need to get real and sign a main striker. We have players who will leave in summer and somehow we need to bring in some quality experienced players to work with our good group of youth.

16.) 22 Apr 2025 16:21:16
DB, I agree, honestly. I know all eggs are in the Europa League basket and have been for some time.

We need a couple of different attacking options and I'd say a decent CM. And obviously a dependable GK.

17.) 22 Apr 2025 19:50:24
Let's be honest, there isn't a single position in that team that couldn't be upgraded, many with quite modest signings from the clubs around us in the league. Bruno is arguably the only exception. He has his critics but is our best player by a country mile.
Our best centreforward is a centreback no-one at the club or seemingly outside it wants.
We have a selection of attacking midfielders/ no.10s behind them in these crucial creative positions, any on their day could be sold without being missed. Amad walks back into the team but there are others who improve it instantly, from Cunha to Kluivert and Semenyo.
All wingback options other than Amad are uninspiring. Dorgu I'm sure will improve and as Amorim's only signing so far deserves the benefit of the doubt.
I actually don't mind our current quota of centrebacks, if any of them could stay fit and build on their form. Quick word on Heaven, what a great signing he will prove to be. All these big names floating about and says a lot that a kid picked up for pocket money walks into the team and improves it. Either shows how dreadful our squad is, or maybe the scouting team deserve a rare pat on the back.
Don't get me started on Krusty in goal. I think he's going backwards. With every shot I have no idea whether he's about to pull off a worldy or catch it and throw it into the net. Madness.

18.) 22 Apr 2025 20:08:12
Amos been a disaster so far not what i was expecting don't no why people are thinking he's some top top young coach he's been very 1 dimensional so far. But TH absolutely destroyed UTD with his signings gave Amo nothing to build on 700 million spent be very lucky to get 100 million for the lot of them . i'd give Amo the summer window but if he's still serving up gash by xmas stuck in mid table i'd sack him got to end this cult of manager damaging to the club no other club or fanbase thinks like this can't judge till he's spent half a billion+ on a raft of players can you imagine a serious club like Bayern doing that aww its ok he's no spent much yet wel write this season of can't expect the manager to work with what he's got like actually improve them.

19.) 22 Apr 2025 20:27:38
Let's not beat around the bush, with this squad 90% of managers would be relegated. Even guardiola, klopp, ancelotti and ferguson wouldn't be much better off. It's not the current manager, its the previous couple of ceos and their teams of bad recruiters that have done this.

20.) 22 Apr 2025 20:40:47
2 Tom's. You don't see anything improved over the last 18 months.
The whole financial structure of the business has and us all going through a massive overhaul.
The foundations to rebuild the squad are being put in place.
We have been playing a massively inexperienced team. 5 or 6 of our regular startes lately are teenagers or under 22.
We have the worst keeper in the division.
We have the worst strikers in the division.
We were playing 2 teenagers in cb positions.
The club is laying the foundations that will allow us to rebuild a squad that's full of over paid and under performing players that are simply not up to the rigours ov epl football.
Sancho Anthony rasford ericksen lindelof Evans and Heaton all on their way out.
It may take 12 months to rid ourselves of others due to not being able to take a loss on their book value.
On the pitch I see a modicum of improvement in how we play and approach games. We just don't have the players to play epl football. I think we are unbeaten in Europe since RA game having not won a European game in 10 or 12 matches before that.
If you can't see that there have been many and some positive changes your not looking at the full picture imo.
Lots of good work going on much of it unpleasant for some but necessary in order to get the club in a position to recover from the poor leadership and mistakes of the past.
Eth was a huge mistake and the idiots that put him there and spent stupid money giving stupid contracts will take some time to recover from.
In order to fix what happens on the pitch open heart surgery is required we were told that many moons ago.
We have in place now a team that will have the courage of their convictions and that takes time.
A few idiots won't be happy because there here and now is not ideal but as a club we are better off without those idiots that can't see the wood for the trees.

21.) 22 Apr 2025 21:13:11
Funnily enough Danny I reckon the likes of Moyes/ Silva would have get us higher in the table this season with their simplistic approaches and formations.
But I’m not saying I want that.
They’d get no further than mid table, with a Europa chase our only dream.
With Amorim I believe, if we’re willing to take the risk (which it is), and something clicks into place, we ‘might’ be so much more.
Red or blue pill.?

22.) 22 Apr 2025 22:38:15
The same people who threw ETH under the bus after 18 months are now allowing RA time on the basis Fergie didn't start well in his first 2 seasons.

23.) 22 Apr 2025 23:33:24
ETH destroyed this club his legacy will be the wasted open heart surgery saddling UTD with utter gash like Hoijlund Onana the Balsa wood butcher etc . No manager should get a free hit anymore pretty sure if Amos still gash by xmas hel be gone hopefully anyway.

24.) 22 Apr 2025 23:50:21
Kurtis. Eth had over 700m spent for him. He brought in too many players that did not do well.
Cf he brought in are zirkzee rasmus weggy.
Keepers he brought in onana and bayindir.
Cbs martinez deligt
Fbs maz and malacia
Cm mount and casimero
Winger Anthony
I'm sure there are others.
Not a good record.
Imo eth was not a good leader. The team got worse overtime not better.
He was fired on 13 points after 11 games in 15th and left behind a mish mash of a squad with little coconfidence and low morale. Hadn't won in i think 12 games in Europe. Finished 8th and with a minus goal difference and left us in 15th with a minus goal difference.
Again imo he spoke very poorly and was in total denial of the poor job he was doing and how poor this team were.
He did not have the courage of his convictions and he didn't stay true to his beliefs.
I see something very different in the personality with RA. I see a leader a man with a plan and a vision.
He can't deliver his vision with this squad. Completely lacking in the physicality needed to compete in the premiership.
He has been doing a little better in Europe because there is less emphasis on physicality in Europe compared to the epl.
Regularly he is playing with 5 or 6 players under 22 with 2 or 3 teenagers.
I understand that things can't happen with the squad until the summer I'm really hoping for a massive clearout.
I also understand if you don't see what I see.
You amd angel and jimbob saw a future in eth i strongly disagreed.
Your entitled to disagree I've no issue with that at all.
You wanted eth to get more time in didn't. I think RA will be fully accountable in 18 months time.
I've not once compared him or his start to fergie.
It's a different time and different era the rules of engagement have changed substantially since then.
But the job he has to undertake is similar. He needs to rid the club of poor characters with inflated ego and no winning culture or pedigree.
I think amorim is the right man to do that.
Plus off the pitch the club was in turmoil when fergie arrived. So in those respects his job description is similar.
Eth was bringing us backwards and left a terrible mess behind so happy for RA to be given the time and tools to build something great.

25.) 23 Apr 2025 05:16:23
Let’s be fair in Tumble, you was not against ETH from the beginning, like your now trying to say you were, in fact I specifically remember you and other posters chastising someone on here who said that ETH was far out his depth and the players he was buying were worst than what he was getting rid of and parted with 700m to do it.
Yes you finally caught up and turned on ETH and then others followed, but others still wear those red tints even on our crap players now, I see one even questioned why I called 90% of our squad useless, simple answer is they are useless and 90% is being generous, you yourself even slate our best player in Bruno!

26.) 23 Apr 2025 06:32:59
Ken, a few idiots? You can't help yourself can you, a good discussion isn't complete without an insult is it?

You're always so sure you are right, and get personal with those that disagree with you. Have you considered therapy?

27.) 23 Apr 2025 06:41:53
I believe Amorim is a leader, has conviction in what his plan is, is not scuttling back on that plan to try to win games because some fans are squeaking like ETH did. I am with him in what he is trying to do. Nothing lasts forever and he has to turn it round but I believe he deserves time based on what he wants to do.

28.) 23 Apr 2025 08:47:24
I'm a firm believer in therapy ajh. If you go it allows you to express yourself without fear. Yes I'm nearly always sure I'm right I'm never afraid to express that. Nor am I afraid to admit when I'm wrong. If people are insulted so be it I'm not responsiblefor people's feelings. If anyone feels insulted i can't control people's feelings. When you are used to getting most things you want it tends to come across like that. I'm really not bothered.
German your right I was pro giving eth the opportunity I remember having the discussing with you under one of your other logos ins.
He came with a decent pedigree and deserved the opportunity to do it his way. But unfortunately it became obvious he was not the character I thought he was or at some point he broke and became unfixable. The warning signs were there and I heeded them.
Every new manager gets my support. He was not my 1st choice at the time but when it became obvious to me he was the wrong man I put my flag in the sand.

29.) 23 Apr 2025 10:18:32
I think DannyC and Spenno have nailed it succinctly.

Yes, maybe Moyes or managers with a similar style could get this team higher up the table, but so what? Finishing 9th every season would be pointless.

I agree that top managers past and present like SAF, Guardiola, Klopp etc would do no better with the current Utd squad.

I'm not sure how Ancelotti would fair ??‍♂️

It looks like he will be available in the summer though. Just saying ?.

30.) 23 Apr 2025 10:35:47
Tumbleweed, no I don’t see improvement at all. I fully understand these are not Amorims players. I also understand that the board are now making drastic changes behind the scenes to rectify years of inconsistency.
I also can see that week in, week out we are being outplayed by most teams. Our set up is appalling.
I don’t just have this blind faith that Amorim will turn out to be this master tactician when so far his system has proven to be rubbish in the PL.
If that makes me one of the idiots then so be it.
Pass me the dunce hat and next time I watch us play I’ll just pretend everything’s going in the right direction and we’re not languishing in 14th.

31.) 23 Apr 2025 11:38:49
I can kinda see now why Liverpool and West Ham rejected Amo very 1 dimensional and his style which may not work will require a lot of money spent another huge gamble by UTD i said at the time and still say wouldve been better with Southgate for a few seasons if that'd had been some sexy named foreigner got say Belgium to finals and semis etc UTD fans wouldve been all over him . Don't understand this oooooh X manager wouldve got higher with this squad but wer playing the long game time as seen with TH dosent make a donkey a racehorse Amo was definitely a panic move by Ratclife not a mention of him when they were interviewing every other manager last summer strange appointment imo.

{Ed025's Note - Soutgate would have bored you to death Brum boi, i think hes awful mate and there is a reason he is out of work, had a great England squad but played his favourites like Harry and Shaw who lets be honest are Turkish Delight..

32.) 23 Apr 2025 13:16:58
Well 2 Tom's if the cap fits wear it.
If you think nothing has improved over last 6 months that's your perogative.
I can assure you a lot has improved in terms of the infrastructure and finances and the outlook is a lit more positive for the short to medium turn due to the tough decisions made.
That will transfer onto the pitch in time I think.

33.) 23 Apr 2025 14:24:07
Jesus Southgate…. no way, terrible tactics terrible manager! Not for me that’s for sure!
I don’t get why anyone can say they have seen nothing so far, it’s been a huge shift in play, least you can now see what we are trying to do and what way of playing we are aiming for, I for one love that RA is sticking to what got him the job, but how anyone expects anything with zero strikers and such a dodgy keeper is beyond me along with one dimensional Garnacho and fridge carrying CBs
We will get in 4-5 players without doubt and 2 of them must be strikers or maybe Odi makes up 1 place, gone will be
Rasmus, Garnacho, Onana, Deligt or McGuire, Shaw, Zirkee, possibly Cas, possibly Mainoo
Mazaroui will become backup along with Dorgu.

34.) 23 Apr 2025 23:48:11
Why not Southgate tremendous record as England manager brought loads of young players in bit negative sometimes but usually against teams far superior to us. What you seeing i see UTD loosing most weeks and in need of yet another rebuild to accommodate a 1 dimensional manager each to there own tho German fella hopefully your right and Amos as good as you think ill wager with you my man if you want 20 bangers he's gone by Xmas love a bet?

35.) 24 Apr 2025 04:17:03
Tremendous record as England manager, you’re joking right! won nothing, beat no decent teams in anything meaning full, had a golden generation of talent at his disposal, bored the pants off everyone in every game, fluffed the most winnable games, now can’t get a job of being a manager after thinking clubs would be bashing his door down, on top of that the most boring man apart from one or two on here!

36.) 23 Apr 2025 23:43:19
Ed 25 maybe but Amos footballs not exactly edge of the seat thrill a minute unless you support the other side who are usually pulverizing UTD . Would be good to see an English manager at UTD i think he'd shock you look how bad England were before him likes of Iceland used to smash us imo he's been a tremendous England manager never imagined us getting that close to winning big tournaments specially with such a young team.

{Ed025's Note - in the end its just about opinions mate, i think you dodged a bullet not appointing Southgate myself..

37.) 24 Apr 2025 09:49:49
I'm not convinced by Amorim yet but there are so many individual mistakes that he can't be blamed for. The players are really poor, I just don't see it working for Mount either. My only criticism of him is that I think he left us short by letting players go on loan. But I guess that was done with a view to getting rid of them in the summer.

18 Apr 2025 07:35:25
As the emotion subsides let's remember we should never have got ourselves in the position we did, and it kindness sums up much of our season.

We looked good in spells, this time for the first half, and took a 2 goal lead. After the break, the intensity dropped, we were dominated and let them back in with 2 goals.

In extra time, we had a spare man yet conceded 2 more, only to show incredible fight and spirit to turn it around.

It was Lyon, at OT, we had an extra man, yet we made incredibly hard work of it. I really don't know what to make of it. We could win the thing playing like this which is mad, but I guess we would happily take it as it's a major trophy and ECL qualification.

I'm trying to remember the early 90's and if there was a light switch moment, because we need something to click right now.

So, I'm as delirious as everyone else, but let's remember we conceded 4 goals and still look all over the place.

{Ed025's Note - you are spot on AJH..

1.) 18 Apr 2025 08:19:55
I'm still in shock! We were so bad at times but. bloody hell!

2.) 18 Apr 2025 08:26:40
It was late 80s ajh mark robins.
Not sure why you feel the need to be a miserable sod but each to their own.

3.) 18 Apr 2025 08:31:48
I hate the way we play, there is very little control and helter skelter. The end had me shouting and going nuts but i prefer some form of boring control of a game and winning without this kind of drama. Athletic is a good team and we cannot play like this against them.

4.) 18 Apr 2025 08:55:05
I don't mean to be rude, but blah blah blah blah blah.

That match was exactly why I love football.

Screw the analysis, who cares? Just ride the emotion and appreciate the drama.

{Ed025's Note - it was certainly entertaining MM..

5.) 18 Apr 2025 09:10:47
In 20 years I won't remember this season. I won't remember conceding 4 goals at home against Lyon. I won't remember all the ex players and fans slagging their own club to hell and back. In twenty years I will remember one of the most incredible games of football I've ever seen, I will remember the feeling when mags got the winner, I remember thousands of people going absolutely mental. What a night.

{Ed025's Note - i think your spot on Deano, do you think Liverpool supporters remember the pathetic performance in the first half against Milan in the 2005 CL cup final?...no they call it the "miracle of Istanbul" mate, its been very lean times of late at Old Trafford so these are nights that should be celebrated imo..

6.) 18 Apr 2025 09:39:47
In a season like what we’re having, you need to be enjoying games like last night AJH.
Anyone with a pair of eyes can see that we collapsed in the second half but we scored more goals than the opposition!
Our system actually worked first half. Not sure what happened second but I read today that Mazraoui and Lindelof had to leave old Trafford for personal reasons?
Anyway, watch the highlights back and listen to the crowd when the 4th and 5th goes in.
That’s what it’s all about surely!

7.) 18 Apr 2025 10:18:27
Spot on ed, history is kind to winners . In the poignant words of Dominic Torreto. " It doesn't matter if you win by an inch, or a mile. Winning is winning. " ??.

{Ed025's Note - exactly Deano..

8.) 18 Apr 2025 11:27:09
The only way last night gets remembered is if we win Europa.

It was a great game but if we play like that against Athletic or Spurs we’ll get beat.

9.) 18 Apr 2025 13:05:33
Absolute nonsense utd road.
Look at poll of united supporters picked as the best games ever at old Trafford.
We only won 3 of the 8 comps featured in the top 10 .
People remember great games and atmospheres even if they don't go on to win the comp.
I would say the win will count for nothing unless we win the comp but it will be remembered for generations.

10.) 18 Apr 2025 14:40:57
Not to be to Keane like but it was a quarter final in the europa league.

It was a good game but counts for nothing if there’s no cup at the end. Sorry to be the voice of realism.

11.) 18 Apr 2025 15:35:16
Duh, read my post, 'I'm as delirious as everyone else'. Amazing game and comeback.

But it doesn't make us any less crap.

Amorim is the nan, he has a system, we just need better players. We shall see.

12.) 18 Apr 2025 17:31:39
Ahmad,

That’s a very interesting take, if we had won 3-0 yesterday I doubt I would have been walking around Manchester today and hearing people still singing United songs and still wearing their scarves, I’ve no idea how you would rather win a game easy than win a game like last night, that makes zero sense to me.

Last night is what football is all about, last minute winners, snatching victory from the jaws of the season being over, living to fight another day, I don’t know how people that don’t like sport ever get that buzz. I was lucky to be there and I never leave early, it was spectacular, people I’ve sat around for years and never really spoken to were hugging me, I think I must have hugged about 100 people, it’s what football is about and I’d rather that every day of the week than a boring 3-0 win.

13.) 18 Apr 2025 20:41:22
That 99 final was a shocking night too gds2 furious I was.

14.) 18 Apr 2025 22:48:01
Haha yes Bayern should have won, if I was in charge I’d have given the trophy back, didn’t deserve it at all.

15.) 19 Apr 2025 10:14:49
Just read your post again AJH, when is the emotion meant to subside? It hasn’t for me yet. I live 20 minutes from the stadium and last night (early hours of Saturday) people were singing United songs in the street! It’s stirred something in everyone.

16.) 19 Apr 2025 10:34:18
Dear me, Utd road

the 1984 home game against Maradona’s Barcelona was one of the greatest Old Trafford nights, yet we didn’t win the cup. Yes frustrated that we didn’t go on, but I will never forget that night stood in the Stretford End. Thursday will be similar. I still get that tingle of excitement 41 years later when I see the replay of Stapleton scoring. Same will go for Harry.

17.) 19 Apr 2025 12:32:34
The last time I felt that sort of excitement watching Utd was when we beat PSG on their home turf under Ole. A night when no-one gave us a chance.
Didn't go on and win the thing, but memories like that are why you follow a football team from childhood.
Here's to many, many more of them.

30 Mar 2025 16:18:48
Marcus Rashford against Preston, it was like watching Messi, he was unbelievable. Yes yes, it was only Preston, and yes yes, t was a tap in and a penalty but even so, he was amazing.

I wonder what some of these pundits are on, he did ok but they were wetting themselves over him. Good luck to the lad but an ok performance doesn't merit the platitudes being thrown at him.

1.) 30 Mar 2025 16:57:15
He was amazing AJH. Completely revitalised. He'd be a steal for any club that'd like to sign him for 80M. Or 120M at that.
Now leave those pundits alone!

2.) 30 Mar 2025 17:14:58
The media bias against Utd is laughable. How many games has he played at Villa before todays 2 absolute worldie goals against probably the best ever team to grace a pitch
Hope he keeps scoring and there is a bidding war
Good riddance.

3.) 30 Mar 2025 19:34:11
I am pleased he is happy and doing well, regardless of whether that is real or hype. If his reputation can be built back up then we might get more money at the end of the season with a bidding war.
Rashford is a good lad and good player, it is also right for him to leave and progress his career elsewhere.
Win win all round.

4.) 30 Mar 2025 19:55:54
Donred,

Absolutely agree, I hope Villa want him immediately for as much money as possible. His last good game for us was against Barnsley, think the lad has found his level.

5.) 30 Mar 2025 21:22:26
Fair play, let's have him imitate Messi so we can maximise his value, it it p1sses me off he suddenly seems motivated when he has been apathetic for us for over 2 years.

6.) 30 Mar 2025 21:35:43
he has found his level alright, CL quarter final's, FA. Cup semi finals, and challenging for a top 4 finish. LOL.

7.) 30 Mar 2025 23:46:11
Didi,

He’s scored 2 goals against Preston, the team is doing ok, he’s been average but at least he’s putting some effort in. Frustrating he couldn’t be arsed to do that for his home town club.

Villa are 9th by the way.

8.) 31 Mar 2025 00:06:31
I've no bitterness towards him i don't think anybody should have. I hope he does well and gets the move he wants and all parties are happy and can move on.
It's been a good day for him and for villa. I'm pleased for them. Should we all not be?
He's yesterday's man as far as united go. Good times here at times but a bad ending. Best of luck to him and I hope he gets the move he wants.

9.) 31 Mar 2025 00:31:13
Imagine he is reacquainted with his passion for the game, brings his smile back to the pitch, and he has a realisation that life at his boyhood club is worth fighting for and getting utd back to where they belong.
His attitude has stunk, he has had issues to contend with, and as the old saying goes, 'a change is as good as a rest'.
Imagine he understands that football gives him an out from whatever else he is dealing with.
Imagine all that, and he comes back to OT and he is the player that bags 20-30 a year. I'd keep him if he is banging goals/ assists in.
I know a lot will say he isn't the player he once was etc.
But if he could bring that back, surely be is worth another year, especially if no one wants to buy him.

10.) 31 Mar 2025 02:21:54
You lot are hilarious. Villa may be 9th but they are only 4 points away from 4th with 9 games left to go. Maybe being out of the race for top 4 for so long may have made you forget but that still means that they are challenging for a top 4 spot. For context too, you all are 13th, just 4 places away from villa but are 8 points behind.

Don't get me wrong though. While I used to like Rashford as a player, he seems to have lost his way the past few years and was a shadow of the player he was when he first burst onto the scene. He seems to be playing with enthusiasm now again though and I am glad that he is, even though I don't think he can hit the highs of his previous seasons and become the player he had the potential to be. Still, it is nice to see that he enjoys his football once again.

11.) 31 Mar 2025 07:33:51
Well, that's the Ballon d'Or sorted.

12.) 31 Mar 2025 10:34:04
Dracred,

So your first paragraph says we are all hilarious then your 2nd paragraph agrees with everything we have all said. You seem confused. I never said Villa aren’t challenging for top 4, but they are 9th and Rashford has 2 goals against Preston yet the press would have you believe he’s back to his best. He was shocking for England but again at least he was trying.

I don’t think you can blame any united fans for not being huge fans of the lad after watching him put no effort in for the club for 18 months whilst on £350k a week.

13.) 31 Mar 2025 12:09:53
Well I'm pleased for the guy. Of course he's lost his way at United, his financial reward for 'that' stellar season has now made things unsustainable alongside an alarming drop in form. But there's a great player in there somewhere if Emery can coax it out again and I believe there's a decent guy in there too. If they go through with it they get a very good player (would love to be a fly on the wall during contract talks) and we get money to reinvest. Good luck to him I say.

14.) 31 Mar 2025 12:52:19
Let's be honest, if he had 2 goals and 4 assists in 14 games for us he would be getting absolutely slaughtered by the pundits ? I hope we get every penny we can for him and move on .

15.) 31 Mar 2025 23:07:03
Er no Spenno. There isn't a great player in there. Anywhere.

16.) 31 Mar 2025 23:09:52
And also Spenno, why are you wishing him luck. Walk ball Rashford has taken the michael out of everyone who has paid/ bothered to watch Man Utd for the last two seasons. Screw him.

17.) 31 Mar 2025 23:38:49
Hell hath no fury like a Utd fan scorned to paraphrase an old saying.

Let Rashford rebuild his career without the vitriol. For reasons we will probably never know he lost his way at Utd. He didn't kill anyone. Let's be bug enough to wish him luck and move on.

18.) 31 Mar 2025 23:56:04
If he had 2 goals and 4 assists for UTD his contract would be getting doubled that's WC form compared to UTDs current front players that's more than Hoijlund and Zirkzee combined.

19.) 01 Apr 2025 00:43:01
Brum / German,

It’s not more than both combined though is it?

20.) 01 Apr 2025 09:07:51
Let's hope that Rashford goes on a good goal scoring and assist run.

21.) 01 Apr 2025 09:38:44
Come on Manc. You're better than that.
I'm not saying he's great right now, far from it and he's rightly been sent elsewhere, but you don't score 30 goals in the English top flight if you can't cut the mustard.

22.) 01 Apr 2025 13:59:14
Rashford rattling people on here again ? it's unbelievable. He is gone, playing well for Villa and you're still talking about him. Let it go lads.

GDS, you're proper rattled by him ?.

23.) 01 Apr 2025 15:09:00
Don't think anybody is rattled and it's a bit of a dumb comment.
People have opinions but are not rattled at all i'm quite sure gds2 is not rattled but has his views.
2 goals against preston In 14 games and 4 assists is not great but he has done ok. He has done worse for villa than he has done for us this session so not sure he has improved at all. Stats can be misleading at times. Yesterday's news as far as united are concerned. I for one would like to see him do well elsewhere as i generally like to see people do well.
I'd be delighted if villa win a cl or fa cup as I was for Newcastle fans when they won a cup.
Horrible thing about football supporters and press particularly English ones is that they don't like to see anybody do well except their own team. It's a bit sad very parochial. It's nice imo to see people doing well and I don't feel the need to knock them.
Ideally it's not Liverpool I want to see win things but when they do, for me it's a case of saying well done and now we must rise to the challenge of getting above the teams that have caught us and passed us out.

24.) 01 Apr 2025 16:00:45
If you say so Ken ? I think different.

25.) 02 Apr 2025 01:48:11
Rashford has put in more effort on 3 months for Villa than he has in 18 months for Utd and that's what I think rattles you all the most. Antony seems to be enjoying his time away out on loan as well. So maybe, the problem aren't the players but the club as a whole.

Btw GDS, the dig at Villa being "only" 9th seems to be in reply to Didido's comment on Villa's level. Their level is much higher than yours this season so to suggest that Rashford has found his, are you implying that he deserves better than what Utd are at the moment? ;)

That's what I find so hilarious. You all are taking digs at players who are doing better after they have left you and taking digs at clubs who are having a better season than you.

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24 Apr 2025 21:22:10
German and GDS sitting on a tree
K I S S I N G.

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21 Feb 2025 21:26:39
I think a couple more defeats and he's toast. All the talk of formations doesn't excuse that we are worse now than before he took over. He also looks like a rabbit in the headlights and some of his statements are a bit worrying too.

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11 Dec 2024 13:35:09
Rashford is incredibly talented, go check out his highlights reel.

He was always streaky, but at one point he was carrying the team, just before he injured his back. Since then he had the one season where he was hot but his issue is inconsistency and application. He doesn't look interested, ambles around, and given his talent, doesn't deliver.

It's a crying shame, he could have been the stand out superstar but for whatever reason, he just isn't up for it. He always came across as a humble boy, but now it's tattoos, jewellery, flash cars, trips to the US. He's free to do what he wants off the field, but when he isn't delivering on the pitch, then he can expect to get some grief.

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05 Dec 2024 18:57:45
I don't think Rashford is crap ken, I think he has amazing ability. However, his application and effort is poor and his head seems elsewhere, he's had long enough to fix it but doesn't seem able to.

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04 Dec 2024 16:34:49
It's almost unbelievable so many clubs want him, given he is cr4p. Maybe they see something in him.

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15 May 2025 16:17:00
Well it seems players, old and current perhaps disagree. We are non profitable right now, but not because of Christmas bonuses or free tickets, but because of incompetent transfer business, massively inflated fees and stupid salaries.

As a long time United fan said to me 4ecently, love the shirt, hate the club.

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15 May 2025 14:39:00
Spurs are offering a free ticket to every full-time employee but United have only set aside a small number for a staff ballot.  Paris Saint-Germain are also paying for 600 staff members to attend the Champions League final against Inter in Munich on May 31.

We are cheap.

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14 May 2025 19:51:21
I know I replied already ut I al sppalled at this. The fact the manager and captain have stepped up sends a very clear message to the owners, and it's not a positive one.
If they feel they need to do this, imagine how they feel about the owners, andvie the owners maybe else. About them doing this.

I hate the Glazers, almost as much as Red Man does, but the new owners are horrible horrible people.

Our club was a community club, it stood for something, but now it is a corporate machine led by cold clinical business people. I am weeping.

{Ed025's Note - i really want to tell you that you are wrong AJH...but i cant mate..

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14 May 2025 18:35:16
Shameful is the word Danny, what have we become?

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14 May 2025 16:46:45
I think it's ts more a mental than a physical thing. David and Bernardo Silva are both slight but are excellent players, and there are many more.

Scott is doing really well in Italy, being played in a different position. Those people who say it's an easier league, will tell us to sign Gyokores, who is playing in Portugal.

Antony is an example of a player for whom the OT stage seemed overwhelming. His talent is not in question, but his mentality is.

Rashford is another who seems to gave issues to sort out.

In SAF's days, we used to focus on the character of potential targets, it seems we don't do that any more.