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07 Mar 2015 08:01:19
Ed002, if you are around, and have the time. Reports in Portugal that United are close to a deal for William Carvalho. Not sure I would believe a deal is "close", but do you know if the club still have an interest in him? I thought we had moved on from him.

PS, I do not read twitter!

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{Ed002's Note - There is interest in Carvalho from a number of clubs still and there have been fairly recent approaches by Arsenal and Manchester United. Monaco and Atletico Madrid may also still be interested. Juventus and Chelsea passed on previous interest because of the cost. Sporting would ideally like to keep him a year or two more. Everyone knows the price and it is significant and there seems little room for negotiation. Liverpool looked at the player at the start of last year but I am not aware of any interest right now.}

1.) 07 Mar 2015 11:39:05
Ah, right. So he is still on the radar then. Thanks for that, Ed.



25 Aug 2014 22:23:38
Press association reporting than fee has been agreed with Madrid for DiMaria. £59.7m. Looks like the deal is all but done.

betty swollocks

1.) 25 Aug 2014 22:50:58
we NEED vidal or de jong to finish this jigsaw

2.) Defence still needs addressing too in my opinion.

Vidal and blind and I'd be happy.

3.) We are close to having a good squad again, and I can see Vidal and Blind happening. God what a fantastic window that would be and a timely reminder to the rest of Europe that we are still an elite club.



15 Jul 2014 00:16:28
Just got in from the Elbow convert which was brilliant. Just logged on to see all the replies from earlier about Blue Nun. LOL.
AJH, with you being such a wind up merchant yourself I can't believe you took me seriously. You really think I drink Blue Nun? :)
Just for the record I am an Ale man. We have several excellent breweries down here, and I love Doombar, Tribute, Betty Stoggs etc
I do like a bottle of the old Vin Rouge too. I try to get McGuigans Black Label when I can.
Unless Blue Nun is on offer of course lmaof. :)

betty swollocks

{Ed002's Note - I am glad they dragged you out of the vat in time BS.}

1.) Doombar is brilliant. You need to come to Sheffield for real ales, some brilliant ones.

2.) Betty you are a man!

3.) 15 Jul 2014 10:38:22
Glad you enjoyed the concert man ;)

4.) Has to be Cornish Knocker for me!
Where abouts in cornwall are you from, anywhere near the great heights of Four Lanes?

5.) Doombar - 'tis lovely

6.) PeeB, how dare you. A man?
I'm a proper Cornish maid thankyou. And proper Cornish maids drink ale. Lots of ale :)
Wilcey, I'm just outside St.Austell, so not too far from FourLanes.

7.) I was there too, brilliant set. Where abouts in Kernow do you live? Just got my season tickets for next season, so if you ever need a lift up gimmie a shout!

8.) Dan, I live about a mile from the Eden Project in Par. How about you?
Cheers for the lift offer buddy.

9.) 15 Jul 2014 16:31:12
Nice part of the world all of it. I'm in weymouth now and we have badger ales a few miles from us. Not bad for getting wobbly. Was in Plymouth with the kids last week and went round the barbican area up to the hoe and down to a park my kids like to play in. With a few drinks along the way;). Ended up in a nice tapas restaurant near centre of Plymouth.

10.) . didn't expect to see a conversation between a few 'Janners' on here. proper. Tonguer10.

11.) Camborne is the place to be in Cornwall. I grew up there and Betty Stoggs is the greatest Ale on the planet, hands down.

12.) Im in summercourt so not too far. I was working in Par last week! You get up to OT much then? I usually get there once or twice a season but I have gone whole hog and bought a pair of season tickets this year. Long old drive but I have always wanted to do it!

13.) Dan, not been much recently. Me and the Mrs both work full time, and she has to travel quite a bit. Not so easy now we have a little one. Try to get there when I can, with my bro and a couple of mates. Its such a long return trip so when we go we usually stay over night. We've actually done a few CL matches and driven back right after the game due to work commitments, and that is a killer day!
There is no better way than to spend a few hours in the Bishops Blaze before making your way round the corner to OT.



13 Jul 2014 21:11:03
Eds, lots of talk on here about Vidal, and I really hope it happens. But one name I've not heard mentioned for a long time is Lars Bender. Do you know if United still maintain an interest in him?

betty swollocks

{Ed002's Note - It will have moved on.}

1.) Good player but I imagine that 2 CM's in one window will be as much as we do so if vidal comes in I imagine we Will then wait for Strootman in Jan.



05 Jun 2014 13:35:01
Ed002, if you are around, do have any more recent info regarding Gundogan? I know he isn't being risked until next season so as to avoid any unnecessary risk of injury. But a few weeks back Klopp said that his back was "fine" and he has basically recovered from the actually spinal injury.
That is the last I have heard, or been able to find anywhere. Just wondered if you had heard any new info, and if you know whether or not he is still of interest to United.

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{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely Gundogan will move this summer, but if he does it amy well be to Barcelona if they rekindle previous interest.}




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18 Oct 2020 06:34:33
I'm not being negative or a party pooper, but let's not get carried away with the result. We were pretty poor again for most of that match. Newcastle fell apart when we scored the second.
Granted, you can only beat what's put in front of you, and come the end we did deserve the win. I'm happy with the result and pleased for the lads, but really don't agree with the 'great performance' sentiment.
It wasn't until after Pogba and VdB came on that we looked half decent. It's amazing what happens when you bring on players that can actually pass the ball to a teammate! .
I understand why OLE wanted to keep things right and compact, but it is not playing to our strengths.
We simply don't have s good enough defence to invite teams onto us from the start. He needs to stop with the negative tactics and actually go out to win games, IMO.
Like I said, I'm not being negative for the sake of it, but despite being a comfortable win in the end, it was at best, a very average performance for the most part.
Overall though, a good and much needed result.

betty swollocks

1.) 18 Oct 2020 11:29:27
Betty I'd have to disagree, I actually quite enjoyed the performance and we could have had 6 or 7. The energy seemed up on the previous 3 league games and there was some nice slick passing and movement off the ball. Mata was impressive Bruno seemed to drift in and out of the game but did well and Rashford looked sharp, although we should be beating Newcastle its definitely something to build on and hopefully lift the mood around the club.

2.) 18 Oct 2020 11:44:30
Betty, I was going to pop onto the live chat before kick off, but judged the mood and thought I'd leave it. Before a ball had been kicked, the knives were out over the team that was picked. I'm not going to get carried away over a win - most don't on here, if the number of posts after a win are compared with those after a defeat - but equally I'll not get too carried away after a defeat. There will be many more of each, for most teams, before this season is over.

3.) 18 Oct 2020 11:52:50
I don't disagree with most of what you say Derby, as I said we did deserve the win. But up until 85 minutes it was another frustrating game for the most part. Newcastle just sat back after the 3rd minute, so IMO we could have showed a bit more ambition earlier.
I just feel our whole mindset is too negative - our strengths lie in attack, so we should play that way from the off.
We looked a lot better when Pogba and VdB came on. At least they can pass the ball forwards.
Like I said, I don't want to be too negative, but I won't be getting carried away with it.

4.) 18 Oct 2020 11:59:48
We have lost 2 league games i think since February.
Due to unprecedented circumstances due to C.V. and no pre season we looked seriously under cooked for both of them .
Finished 3rd last season .
I personally think the doom and gloom for a few is over the top .
I enjoyed the game yesterday but each to their own.

5.) 18 Oct 2020 12:05:30
Yeah Betty we are definitely to negative, I can never understand why we always no matter who the opposition set up with 2 holding midfielders. Especially now when you can fit the 3 of pogba bruno and vdb in the midfield with one holding midfielder. Mata still looks a good option against teams that sit back and let us have more of the ball. Ole won't change though and rarely ever changes the system mid game.

6.) 18 Oct 2020 12:13:52
Corona affected every team Jred, let's not use that as an excuse, this tired and not fit excuse is embarrassing, we have been playing poorly up until yday, we are 14th, we've beaten a bottom 6 team as we should, we got whacked by a top 6 team in the last game, a good performance but let's not get carried away, we need not only a consistent run but to not fall apart as we do after every run, it really concerns me how we have accepted mediocrity as a good thing, the next set of fixtures, PSG, Chelsea, Liepzig, Arsenal, Everton will decide how this season will go imo. DVDB surely has to start week in and out now, surely Ole and co see that he and Bruno together are a class act, Cavani hopefully can come in and Telles hits the ground running, I am hopeful but I've seen many false dawns here and a win over Newcastle isn't going to get me believing we are going in the right direction under this structure in particular or under this management, yes, we all support our club and manager no matter what, that's how it should be but I feel there are long roads ahead yet.

7.) 18 Oct 2020 12:22:39
We completely dominated, on another would have scored more. Its not perfect but is was a comprehensive performance and win.

I was waiting for the first "lets mot get carried away" post. Surprised it was you betty.

8.) 18 Oct 2020 12:29:31
Nou, yes there was a negative vibe before the match, and that was due to the team selection. I did actually comment that we should still win, but if we did it would be in spite of. the team selection, not because of it. With the players we have, we should be going out to win games and be positive from the start. Not being forced into it when we go behind.
Jred, I wouldn't expect you to agree with anything, ever. You just keep looking through those rose tinteds and everything will be fine and dandy.

9.) 18 Oct 2020 12:35:43
Think I said it Tony lol.

10.) 18 Oct 2020 12:35:57
Betty your spot on there. Some will look to paper over the cracks.
Dvb has to start the next few games.

11.) 18 Oct 2020 12:40:06
I agree with Betty, we were poor until the two subs came on. Good overall score, but it was nowhere near a great performance. I will say Ole made the right call with Maguire.

Why did we buy DvB then stick him on the subs bench?

12.) 18 Oct 2020 12:47:20
The facts are the facts .
3rd last season
Lost 2 games since February.
I don't think its as bad as people like to make out .
Honestly I enjoyed the game yesterday.

13.) 18 Oct 2020 12:48:35
I hope you like surprises then AJH!

The 3 late goals changes the whole demeanor and the reality of the performance. Yes it was better, yes we won and yes it was a well deserved 3 points and I am genuinely happy with that.

But I still don't think it was a great performance for the first 85 minutes, that's all. Maybe it's just me, but I get very frustrated with the negative way we approach games.
We have far better attacking options than defensive ones. Let them express themselves from the off, not be forced into.
Jose got pelters for the same let's not forget.

14.) 18 Oct 2020 12:57:15
It wasn't awful. Neither was it great. It was though, a comprehensive win.

15.) 18 Oct 2020 13:09:02
We win our game in hand and we’re only a point behind the ‘mighty liverpool’. You’d think we were in relegation. Yes the spurs and palace games weren’t good enough but let’s back the team and see how they hit back. So far so good.

16.) 18 Oct 2020 13:27:04
Good post Betty. My sentiments exactly.

Good chance to play to our strengths now. VDB has to play.

17.) 18 Oct 2020 15:11:25
I honestly don't think we played any better in the last 15 than we did in the first 75 . We just finished our chances . Lovely footy at times shame mata was offside for bruno goal, was a lovely move .
Then the bruno pen miss .
As for we looked better after the subs? Mata was thd best player in the pitch until he was taken off.



14 Oct 2020 22:26:10
Supasub, good to see you back mate🙋
Just mentioned your name a few days ago as one of the posters we haven't heard from in a while.
How are you doing?

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1.) 15 Oct 2020 07:58:27
Mort is back as well.

2.) 15 Oct 2020 08:34:01
Ooohhhh friend🤣.



07 Oct 2020 19:15:54
Sorry to bring up a previous topic, but the thread is way down page 2 now so will get missed. I've only just got in from work so haven't been able to respond today.
But what are people thoughts on players basically cheating to gain advantages these days?
I commented on that thread that I believe that football is losing its integrity in some ways because if the blatant cheating, diving and feigning injury that goes on.
We are quick to criticise the referees, when in all honesty the route cause is the players behaviour. They fall over and roll around at the slightest touch now, and it's not just foreign players. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing. I firmly believe that the. money involved in football now, and the pressures to win and gain the smallest advantage are a large part of it. That's not an excuse either, but I think that football should adopt a more rugby like stance and stop the pressurising of referees, and allow retrospective punishment of players basically cheating.
In my view, as I said, I feel football is losing its integrity because if it, band it needs addressing asap.
I'm not trying to 'call out' anyone, so I won't mention names, but someone else had a very different view, that this view is basically held by old people who forget that in times fine by players had no integrity because they would kick other players, or deliberately try to end careers!
I guess at 47 I can be classed as old nowadays, but I really do not remember many players deliberately trying to end other player's careers.
Yes, there were so called hard men. Some liked a good physical battle, and have even been known to kick a few. But deliberately ending careers?
And do other people put kicking people into the same category as blatant cheating?
I would genuinely be interested 8n people's views.
Maybe I am just old?

betty swollocks

1.) 07 Oct 2020 19:36:08
It’s got worse in recent years Betty although I remember Savage throwing himself to the ground in a league cup final to get Justin Edinburgh sent off, I gave him grief about it on 606 a few years ago.

The way Lamela fell to the ground was pathetic, he should be ashamed of himself but he’s not alone in this play acting. Do you remember Rivaldo having a ball thrown at his legs and the hurling himself to the ground clutching his face? These people have no shame.

As for ending careers, I must have missed that thread and I don’t think that happens very often.

2.) 07 Oct 2020 19:36:26
Betty, my view is that until there are law changes nothing will change. I said on a post further down than although I wouldn't have been happy with it, what Martial should have done when Lamela shoved his elbow in his face was go down and roll around. That way Lamela would have been the one sent off.

Obviously that's not what I want to see, but it's what I think is best given the current situation within the game. Why try and be bastions of purity and lose out? No one else cares.

What I think needs to happen it retrospective punishment. Have a review board who go over the weekends games any player who is faking/ exaggerating injury that benefited their team will receive a retrospective 2 game ban for the first instance, with an additional game for each additional instance.

Suddenly every time a player goes over expecting contact will admit there was no contact at the time to the Ref to avoid a retrospective ban.

3.) 07 Oct 2020 19:43:06
David Luiz springs to mind. To see him rolling on the floor while laughing at the fans, unsighted from the ref, really ****** me off!

{Ed047's Note - who was that guy who winked at his team mates out of sight of the ref and got another player sent off...Ron something I think, can’t quite remember who he was playing for then either! 🤷‍♂️🤣

4.) 07 Oct 2020 20:33:04
Retrospective punishment with an automatic three match ban if found guilty should be the start. On a second offence increase the ban to six matches. It is about time the cheats were stopped.

5.) 07 Oct 2020 21:16:57
Yeah, it's seems to be getting worse too. One thing that gets me too is all the explayer pundits. They seem to condone it now, or accept that it's part of the game.

It makes me cringe when I hear people like Keown and Shearer ( who both liked a bit if the physical stuff ) seemingly praising players for being 'clever', or saying 'there was contact'. It's still a bloody contact sport, for now anyway.

The slightest little contact should not be enough to justify players throwing themselves to the ground, or the way that both feet appear like they've been magically tied together for a second. Lamela was just the latest if man embarrassing examples.

And just to be fair, Shaw should have been sent off too because what he did was also just cheating. No attempt to play the ball, just a blatant deliberate foul.

6.) 07 Oct 2020 21:39:54
Touché Ed 😂
Totally different to rolling on the floor pretending to be injured while laughing at fans, but a bad move nonetheless!

{Ed047's Note - 🤣 sorry Wazza I couldn’t help it and I know mate, I can’t stand that stuff either and Harry Kane does my head in with his little two feet stuck together bunny hop dives!

Drives me nuts. We had Torriera and Guendouzi acting like a couple of clowns too!🤦‍♂️

7.) 07 Oct 2020 23:35:09
I think one of the biggest factors now is that the premier league is full of players from abroad that have come from countries where it has been seen as normal to do these things for a very long time. It has naturally crept in to the game over here of course and influenced British players to do the same. Many of our teams have played in the CL and UEFA/ Europa cup where British players are further exposed to these sort of tactics.
The game which we grew up watching here has changed drastically. The influx of foreign talent has seen the technical and tactical side of football here improve tremendously. The negative being what you have described in your post.
The only way in which these tactics can be eradicated is if it is stopped being seen as “clever” globally. FIFA and UEFA would have to step in and make use of VAR to do this. They have of course already done this with diving. I cannot see this happening to be honest. It’s seen as just as much apart of football than making a pass in some countries. Applauded.
Lamela was smart. The rules clearly state that if a hand is raised to the face then it is a sending off. Going down only helps his case. Yes, he’s being a knob but he knows that his team will gain an advantage. VAR needs consistency and I’m still baffled as to why the ref was not urged to check his monitor to see the part that Lamela played. Ultimately we have benefited from the fantastic football we now see through the very talented players that come to the premier league along with the coaches that bring a style of play which we were not previously used to seeing. The long ball tactics are rarely seen with many coaches preferring to play football on the ground. It’s not to say long ball tactics are not exciting either. Just look at what Villa did to take advantage of Liverpool’s high line. I don’t like it but I think we will have to learn to live with it somehow. The costs of winning a game of football are far too high.

8.) 07 Oct 2020 19:53:18
I'm with you 100% betty. But i'm of the same era.
Take the martial instance.
I say it was handbags.
The rules say martial has to be sent off.
He reacted stupidly. It happens. He gave lamela an invitation.
He should have laughed and waited he time and nail him at the right opportunity. But hindsight is 20/ 20.
The game is full of cheats and feigners and opportunists. With limited or no respect for the game, the rules, the fans, their opponents or referees. They have limited loyalty and i wouldn't trust a high percentage of them.
Yet they are held up was role models and kids and many adults look up to them.
Of course there are many great pros worthy of lots of praise and idol status but imo they are very few and far between sadly, and that's simply down to their behaviour on the pitch never mind off it.
Drives me nuts.

9.) 08 Oct 2020 09:36:12
Couldn't agree more betty. Lamentable situation in the extreme. I'm also a rugby fan and find some of the 'injuries' in football that heal as if by magic once a card is shown to the 'offender' a disgrace.

Even though there is barely contact. Lamella? Jeez what a disgrace. Footballers have no shame and seem to fail to understand that with TV coverage now we can see them for what they are. Lost count of the number of times I've thought to never watch again but I guess sentimentality and a vain hope for common sense to prevail that the beautiful game we all love will see sense and legislate against this debacle we see now.

Injury doesn't necessarily make a foul any more than the fact you lost a duel and went to ground. Make every attempt to stay on your feet and win the ball and if you aren't hurt don't roll around like a sniper round has found you. Let's be honest, if you're rolling your face around in the amount of phlegm deposited on the grass you aren't hurt, you're desperate and stupid.
Yes I'm old too.

10.) 08 Oct 2020 10:17:42
bull that it's a foreign player issue. I remember Alan Shearer diving back in the 90's.

This can't be categorised as a foreign player issue or a new thing.

Maybe in 60 and early 70's it might have been, but there has been British players diving, cheating and trying to gain an advantage for as long as I can remember.

We either accept it as part of the game, or we bring in rules, regulations and punishments to cut it out. End of.

11.) 08 Oct 2020 11:39:00
Players are taught to cheat before they can even control a ball - kick the ball out over the line then stick your hand up and shout "our ball! ". That's where it starts. Honesty on the pitch is so rare that we can all remember those one-off moments like the Robbie Fowler and David Seaman penalty incident.

12.) 08 Oct 2020 13:35:13
That’s one player Shappy.
My point is more that British players were always seen as the type to stay on their feet.
Diving and throwing yourself to the ground rolling around was never as common as it is now in the premier league.

13.) 08 Oct 2020 15:40:43
Amz, my point, although not explicitly stated, is that actually memory can be skewed by conformation bias and public agenda.

Many British players have dived and cheated over the years, yet there is this idea that British players have a sense of morality of "Queensbury rules" a sense of sportsmanship that other nations do not. When there is very little empirical evidence to back this up. I used Alan Shearer as an example as one I do remember as he is often portrayed as an honest player who would never cheat.

There are players in the EPL such as Grealish, Zaha, Sterling, Dele Alli, Kane, Young, Dan James last season all have a reputation for diving.

Here is a list of players with the most bookings since the start of the 2015/ 16 season for simulation.

4 – Wilfried Zaha

3 – Dele Alli, James McArthur

2 – Sadio Mane, Raheem Sterling, Pedro, Adam Smith, Leroy Sane, Joshua King, Martin Olsson, Roberto Pereyra, Pierre-Emile Højbjerg, Shkodran Mustafi, Daniel James

Look at that, the three players with the most bookings are British players. While only Roberto Pereyra is "Latin" on that list. Which includes 6 Brits, 2 Germans, 3 Scandinavians and 1 African.

Where are all these Latin players who dive and cheat in the EPL.

The truth is that you can't actually generalise about origin and likelihood to cheat. While clearly the idea the British players don't cheat is an outright delusion.

14.) 08 Oct 2020 22:07:53
I read something once from someone who lived in Spain, when they were trying to explain the tendency to dive on the continent, that they see the dive almost as an art form, as opposed to cheating. It was part of the whole theatre and spectacle. I don't know if there's any truth in it, just thought it was an interesting interpretation.

15.) 08 Oct 2020 22:38:52
Shappy, that’s the point I’m making.
Every player you’ve named is from more recent times as the influence of foreign players has grown more.
Go back 30 years and see if diving was as common as it is now in the EPL or going down with the slightest of touches to someone’s face. Trying to con the ref and acting like you’re injured and then getting up 30 seconds later when you’re on the attack. I don’t remember much of that happening previously.
I’m not generalising at all. Similar to what NouCamp said, gaining advantage by any means necessary is applauded in other countries and seen as part of the game. That was never the case here. However, the influx of foreign talent has definitely exposed the EPL more to that sort of thing and has seen a rise in it.
It happens a lot more in other leagues around the world that accept it as part of the game.



06 Oct 2020 18:10:09
Reading today's posts, it has just dawned on me that we blessed with the greatest novelist of all time.

Ladies and gentlemen, please put your hand together for.

William Shappseare 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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{Ed025's Note - love it betty

1.) 06 Oct 2020 18:25:24
4-3-3 or not 4-3-3, that is the question!

*10,000 word essay on formation choices*.

2.) 06 Oct 2020 18:35:53
Very good Danny 🤣🤣.

3.) 06 Oct 2020 19:14:51
United fans yesterday "Sancho, Sancho, wherefore art thou Sancho".

Ed Woodward yesterday "A right winger! A right winger! My kingdom for a right winger! ".

Red man everyday "Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears: I come to bury Ole not praise him".

Me yesterday "Now is the winter of our discontent".

4.) 06 Oct 2020 19:34:06
Et tu Betty?

5.) 06 Oct 2020 19:45:59
Shakespeare for footy's ⚽️

Very good guys 👏👏👏.

6.) 06 Oct 2020 19:59:49
Bit of culture on the site. Love it, fellas 😁 Danny, I forgot what a funny bugger you are 😁.

7.) 06 Oct 2020 20:23:40
Bless you Patrick.

I assume that was a sneeze🤣🤣🤣🤣.

8.) 07 Oct 2020 14:23:29



04 Oct 2020 19:19:52
Shappy's keyboard must have had more taps than 2 hours of Riverdance after that performance 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

betty swollocks

1.) 04 Oct 2020 19:22:45
Briliant 🤣🤣🤣.

2.) 04 Oct 2020 19:59:58
Betty you'll also be relieved to hear that there is also no need for one of my long, rambling, self indulgent posts the result and performance speaks for itself.

Maybe the most worrying thing I can say is anyone really surprised?!

3.) 04 Oct 2020 20:05:19
It's been coming, Palace and Brighton could of had 5 or 6 as well, we have been woeful.

4.) 04 Oct 2020 20:35:47
Ramble away all you like DLIB. It's good to get things off your chest👍.




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04 Sep 2020 15:11:42
Thank god for Google, hey Shappy.
Complete bolloxology again.

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31 Jan 2020 12:10:23
Shaps, you need to change your name to Stato. Or get a hobby.

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31 Jan 2020 12:08:09
Would be quite ironic if we did sign him. We are short up front with Rashford being out, so go and sign Josh King - who is I believe currently out injured?

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31 Jan 2020 10:02:25
Some of you may have seen The Masked signer on TV (yeah, quality I know! ), and would have seen Teddy Sheringham as the 'tree'.

If we wanted to sign a tree, maybe we could sign him again. Be a cheaper option than Giroud.

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31 Jan 2020 09:27:10
Shane, the myth is true. My hotpot is something to behold.

Said the nun to the vicar :)

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09 Nov 2020 06:20:12
Coalan, I totally agree with you. I posted about motivation, so perhaps it was my post you are referring to?

I think it says a lot about our (or any) team when they are not 'up' for a game. They should always be up for it, but it is also the management's job to instill that extra bit of motivation.

Unfortunately, as I have said before, United seem to lack it hugely in the 'run if the mill games', or when we are playing badly.

As many have said before, we lack leadership and a strong mentality on the pitch. And I don't see much if it from the sidelines either.

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08 Nov 2020 08:35:43
I think the performance, and perhaps even more tellingly, Ole's rant after the game, highlights the fact that one of our major problems is motivation, rather than ability.

OLE showed more passion and emotion is his post match interview than ANY other interview I have seen from him.

He and the players clearly feel hard done by regarding fixtures, and had a point to prove.

Maybe if they approached more games like that we would not be in the situation we are now. I think many of us have questioned the apparent lack of motivation over the last few seasons - and not just under Ole.
And I think that is a major reason why we seem to do better in the 'bigger' games.
I'm not a big fan of managers like Conte going beserk on the touchline, but OLE is far too casual and relaxed. If he showed some if the emotion during games that he showed in that post match interview yesterday, I am sure it would have some influence on the players.

It is well know how SAF would create the 'seige mentality' within the dressing room - us against the world sort of thing. The current squad, and the coaching staff as a whole, have a far to casual and accepting demeanour during games for my liking. Maybe it is different in the dressing room, I don't know, but publicly and during matched it all seems too laid back, and portrays the image that sub standard and mediocre is acceptable.

Yesterday, Ole and the players we pee'd of about something beyond their control, and came out fighting to make a point.

Maybe, just maybe it would be a good idea to approach ALL games like that?

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07 Nov 2020 19:04:04
Ken, Maguire will NEVER be as good as me!

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03 Nov 2020 13:26:44
See what you've done KEN!
Keep it zipped next time 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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