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11 Jun 2024 22:22:25
Ten Hag staying as manager next year according to Fabrizio Romano with possible contract extension being discussed.
We now know and can start the plans for next year.
Whatever side of the fence it is at least not Southgate!
1.) 11 Jun 2024 22:47:57
This won’t be news to Ten Hag!
2.) 11 Jun 2024 22:52:23
I am really surprised and very disappointed but they have made their choice and he I support it as they have spoken to several others and decided on eth. Who am I to argue.
Imo they need to back him fully now and give him the security of a new contract.
I now live in hope that he can turn the mess of last season into something better next season.
Personally I'd be happy with top 4 and some decent progression. We can't do much worse in the league onwards and upwards.
@ angel I was wrong.
All we can do is support their decision and hope for the best.
3.) 12 Jun 2024 02:06:05
I think progression would be getting back in the UCL tumble with another cup run
We should be one of the favourites for the europa
And given we will make signings and sales if recruitment is done correct I don’t see why we can’t enter that competition with the aim to win it and at least go to the semi final stage
We do need much better depth it’s clear to see when we missed certain players in certain positions the quality was miles off
Get some young hungry players in and let him coach, he was great at building his Ajax team who were young ( English football is a lot different ) trust the process imo
1 more trophy in England and he’s competed it ??.
Jokes aside I think ten hag does need to be better at his subs but I can’t really moan when the players we have had on the bench have been nowhere near as good in quality
Hopefully rashford can be the player he was the season before and having a proper summer break will do him good
Players like Mount and malacia it’s make or break for them next season, hardly seen Mount so can’t really judge proper, I like Mount and hope he can get some fitness over the summer and start the season well
For me sales wise
Casimiro
Linderpoo
Van de beek
Greenwood
Sancho
Antony (not sure we would find it so easy to sell)
Wan bissaka but not a priority
Pellestri
Erickson
Martial (already gone)
Varane ( already gone)
Then you have to look at players like malacia, mount if they can’t stay fit I can’t see them being there after next season
Even players like shaw, these can’t be trusted if they can’t play games to a consistent amount just get rid
In terms of buys I think we need
2cbs
A left back
2 cms 1 more defensive
A winger
A striker
Obviously no one gets that many players in but with the money saved on wages and possible sales and looking at the squad I think it’s needed.
4.) 12 Jun 2024 03:30:28
Terrible decision. The only consolation is that he’ll probably be gone by Christmas. Let’s just hope they don’t let him waste any more money on dodgy signings between now and then.
5.) 12 Jun 2024 05:33:17
Tumble
You are a good man and respect. let's hope for a good window both outgoing and incoming and players coming back from copa and euros without any major injuries.
6.) 12 Jun 2024 05:45:36
That's the spirit Red.
Ten Hag's future depends on the fitness of Licha, keep him fit and our whole defence suddenly looks a lot better.
Like everyone else, I go into seasons eternally optimistic until proved otherwise.
7.) 12 Jun 2024 06:28:00
Fair one Ken, lot harder to say you were wrong than people think ?.
8.) 12 Jun 2024 07:49:40
Nice1 Ken. Nowt wrong with a bit of humble pie. ????.
9.) 12 Jun 2024 07:56:05
Fair ken, I'm confident he has the ability to do it. And agree, he needs a contract, just for security and to keep the rumour mill at bay for a while.
But if he doesn't show progression, he will be gone, I'm under no illusion. I just couldn't bring myself to properly judge him on last season alone.
He does have 3 cup finals and 2 trophies in 2 years, so he has solid ground under him to build.
10.) 12 Jun 2024 08:45:12
redseven, what team are you going to support now?
11.) 12 Jun 2024 13:54:26
Good to see you can say you were wrong Ken, fair play.
Enjoyed the banter along that journey ?.
12.) 12 Jun 2024 14:34:00
I'm wrong about things everyday jimbob. Everybody is. As long as I get more important stuff right than wrong I'm happy out.
All I can do now is hope. I'm not expecting anything different to the last 2 seasons over the next 2 but all any fan has is hope so I'm hoping for the best.
13.) 12 Jun 2024 17:05:25
To be fair weed, I'd say the review would have been a lot harder on him had he not won the fa cup. I'm glad he's staying but I don't want any whinging about injuries or anything else next season.
19 Jan 2024 13:56:04
In the summer we appeared to be interested in Goncalo Ramos with Bruno making favourable comments in the press. With his gametime limited this season and rumours of PSG possibly looking to move on already could we look at a 6 month loan deal?
Would likely be a more expensive loan deal than we were looking at but could be someone that going forward we may have an interest in if EtH remains.
Might be wishful thinking.
{Ed002's Note - They will want to assurae a sale if they can.}
1.) 19 Jan 2024 14:42:15
As long as it doesn’t hinder any bid for Solanke!
2.) 19 Jan 2024 14:52:06
Would make sense from there perspective but I assume that we would not want to commit with so much uncertainty on structure/ manager going forward.
Swap with Rashford!
3.) 20 Jan 2024 13:24:17
I can’t imagine by the summer there will be any uncertainty. There will be a new structure in place, and frankly a new manager most likely. Mixed feelings on this. I think we have a very good coach in ten Hag, with some help he could be a success.
08 Jan 2024 17:47:15
Looks like we are spending the first part of the window moving out players not in EtH plans for the short term/ rest of season. Van De Break, Martial, Pelestri, Sancho, Mejbri and maybe some more.
I guess it allows them to get game time for either return in the summer or a window to show there ability and then move them on and also generate a loan fee whilst getting some wages off the books.
None are getting any playing time so we will not miss them
Hopefully we will see a couple of loans in. can't see any permanent ones.
1.) 08 Jan 2024 18:28:19
Especially don't need them since the amount of games will be reduced now.
2.) 09 Jan 2024 09:14:08
Not to concerned about these players going out on loan. Free’s up space for likes of Forson and Kambwala to be in the squads and in and around the first team on match days. Dan Gore as well.
3.) 09 Jan 2024 09:35:33
I think Pellistri will get sold so will Hanibal if we get decent offers. Neither in all honesty are ever going to be good enough unless they are happy to be third choice in their positions if they stay.
Sancho and Martial are not going to be here either next year. A lot of cleaning up this squad.
4.) 09 Jan 2024 11:00:35
Unfortunately Pellistri’s end product looks too erratic, despite admirable efforts, so probably best if he goes on loan to try to be more consistent or be sold in the Summer.
Hannibal would surely have been rewarded with more first team appearances by now if he were good or consistent enough. Again, maybe a loan will help decide whether his future lies at United or elsewhere.
Willy Kwambala looks like good and am hoping Dan Gore starts to get more minutes.
Can’t see any other younger players breaking through in the short term, though some really good prospects in the Under 16s - 18s who will hopefully emerge in the next few years.
Am looking forward to the Summer overhaul though - perhaps too much to do for one window though.
As well as questionable futures of Pellistri and Hannibal, definitely move on:
Varane
Casameiro
Sancho
Greenwood
Maguire
Erickson
Donny VDBeek
Scott McTominay
Martial
Though will never get fees back that United paid for then, will free up wages and space for new players.
Hoping, at very least, we get:
Centre Back
2 x midfielder (6 and 8)
Right wing
Striker.
5.) 09 Jan 2024 12:55:32
Ken will be devastated if Pellestri goes, he loves him.
6.) 09 Jan 2024 21:24:38
After the World Cup I really wanted to believe we had a real talent on our hands. But for me the kid Pellistri is too lightweight and his final third decision making is not what it should be. He was at a similar stage as Garnacho and he just hasn’t cracked on the same.
7.) 11 Jan 2024 21:17:47
Pellistri is a better player than antony is we paid 90 mill for he hasn't cracked on as much as garnacho probably at least in part he's had much fewer opportunities than him sadly we are stuck with Antony otherwise I'd get rid of him and give pellistri more time.
8.) 11 Jan 2024 22:06:20
Maybe I'm mad, especially given the issues with Antony, Greenwood and Sancho, but I wouldn't have right wing as a high priority this summer.
Obviously there is a greater need to improve the spine, especially at CB and CM. With us needing at least one top level CB and two midfielders. Ideally we'd get two CB's but that might have to wait. Maybe we can keep Lindelof and Evans for one more season and give Kambwala a few more minutes.
We also need a striker, some people feel we need a back up option to Højlund. Which I understand, but personally I see it slightly differently. I'm not a fan of signing squad players, or back up players. For me it's a waste of money to buy a player who isn't good enough in their own right to be first choice. Especially as any "B" striker is still likely to cost upwards of 40m. It seems madness to me to spend 40m on a player who isn't good enough to be first choice.
I'd rather sign a striker who is a slightly different profile of striker to Højlund but one who is either already good enough to be first choice in their own right or at least have the potential to be good enough (and probably pretty close to reaching that potential given the age of Højlund) .
We were very successful with Yorke, Cole, Solskjaer and Sheringham. All 4 were good enough to be first choice in their own right. Obviously we tended to play with two up top then so you wouldn't get away with having 4 top strikers when you play a one striker system. But surely we should have two top strikers?
So far then that's four players good enough to be first choice, a CB two in midfield and a ST.
For me I'd there is money left in the budget then a top class RB would come before a RW for me. My reasoning for this is simple. We have seen enough of AWB and Dalot to know neither are really good enough to be first choice. Personally I'd keep Dalot as a great squad option and move AWB on, who if we are honest isn't good enough to play for a side that should look to play positive, progressive and technically superior football.
However, while options are slim at RW, there is at least potential in the squad that could develop into players who are good enough. Amad Diallo deserves the chance to prove himself, he's a talented player with a high ceiling. How are we supposed to tempt the best young players to join our club if we aren't giving the ones we have a shot.
Then we have Garnacho who has looked very good playing on the right in the two games he's played their this season. Maybe he should get a few more games on the right to see if he can tie down that position himself.
Finally we also have Mount and Bruno who can play RW depending on our tactical set up.
So while the loss of options like Greenwood and Sancho, along with Antony's clear inability to be good enough, we do have maybe more options than first thought.
Also maybe cheating but the RB I'd sign is Frimpong who has the 8th most assists of any player in Europes top five leagues over the past 18 months. He is more than capable of playing RW as well as RB.
31 Aug 2023 21:49:24
So looks like Reguilon will be coming in as LB cover. Would have preferred Cucurella only based on his Brighton form and not seen much of Reguilon. however we are in a position of balancing the books hopefully for other positions.
But. what should we expect from Reguilon. what sort of a player is he.
1.) 31 Aug 2023 22:00:43
Defensively frail but was good against us in the Europa League when he played for Seville.
2.) 31 Aug 2023 22:01:48
Played for both Madrid sides. Spurs paid £30m for a fullback. So was highly regarded. Just never really took off at Spurs.
3.) 31 Aug 2023 22:38:13
A mediocre one. Would be better off trusting in our youth options. Heck. I’d sooner play Dalot there.
4.) 31 Aug 2023 23:41:04
Another bad signing.
5.) 01 Sep 2023 06:24:29
Let’s hope the poor lad doesn’t read this forum ?
He’s a short term fix to an injury crisis and may only be here for 4 months. No doubt match going supporters will be right behind him.
6.) 01 Sep 2023 09:10:43
Clearly had some pedigree at some point, I'm sure he'll be at least a decent option until our LB injuries subside. Would have preferred Cucurella as he could cover at CB too and was great bombing forward in his Brighton days but looks like it was turning into an expensive option whereas Spurs need to clear a few out.
7.) 01 Sep 2023 09:18:01
Wazza if he read this forum he’d never of signed ??.
8.) 01 Sep 2023 09:48:23
Wazza,
We will mate, think it’s utter madness when people write signings off before they have played a game for the club.
9.) 01 Sep 2023 09:48:24
Seem to remember people upset we didn't get him a few years ago to replace Shaw who the same people wanted out.
10.) 01 Sep 2023 09:50:14
Crazy that Alvaro Fernandez didn't get a shot at left back.
The mind boggles, he looks a quality player.
ETH talks about players not quite being ready and loaned out but until you get that chance nobody will know.
Rashford is a prime example.
IMO Fernandez would do as good a job if not better than Reguilon who is very poor defensively.
11.) 01 Sep 2023 10:26:16
Before he played a game. He played for spurs. He isn't good enough for the spurs team.
12.) 01 Sep 2023 10:49:10
LeahCorky I don’t think he’s what anyone at the club would have chosen, but needs must. Dalot looked very very shaky at LB last weekend and with Shaw out for a considerable amount of time we have little options. We’re not going to sign a LB permanently as Shaw has been an excellent player for us for a long time now and the money needs investing elsewhere in the squad. Cucurrella has been seemingly overpriced by Chelsea and also on high wages, I think I read it would be 15 million all in all to have him for the season, it’s a huge fee considering he’d probably be second choice when Shaw is back. Nothing wrong with signing an out of favour PL LB for a few months until our first choice is back.
13.) 01 Sep 2023 11:20:42
When you consider Spurs are well stocked there too.
Udogie
Perisic
Sessegnon.
14.) 01 Sep 2023 11:30:14
‘For the club’ was the important part of that you missed out Leahy. Some players look poor at one club and look great at another, most wanted AWB out under our previous manager but ETH has turned him into a decent full back, no reason why Reguilon can’t do a job.
Not sure what the plan is for Alvaro Fernandez, he isn’t ready to play for us in big league games, maybe he will get chances in the carabao etc if he doesn’t go on loan, I’d be extremely worried if we had him as our first choice full back for the next few months.
15.) 01 Sep 2023 11:44:55
Long long time reader first time poster. Can't believe how some on here seem to just settle for mediocrity. This is Manchester United . Reguillon is not good enough to get in the Spurs team so I'd much rather give youth a chance. Also JE888 Shaw has been an excellent player for us? Apart from a few performances he has been shocking. Mentally not up to it. Shambolic in the two hammerings against Liverpool. Doesn't like it when the going gets tough. Support them through thick and thin but could be a long season again. Failed to address the major issues in the team but yet we've spent over 150 million.
16.) 01 Sep 2023 11:45:12
My guess with Fernandez GTS is that Ten Haag doesn’t want to put too much pressure on him. I think if the team was firing and playing well it would be easier to introduce him, but to simply throw him into the first team that is misfiring a little at the moment with little other option will put a lot of pressure on the kid. Some players may thrive under that sort of pressure, but some crumble and never recover. Introducing a new player to the team is make or break time, and it needs to be done slowly and smartly. Just throwing him in at this time isn’t a good idea and a short term loan seems sensible. Fernandez may be highly regarded and may get his chance this season, but it will be likely done slowly like Garnacho was to begin with.
17.) 01 Sep 2023 12:07:01
KDWR Shaw was our player of the season a few years ago if memory serves me correct. You can pick out a couple of games of any players career and point at bad performances. I’ve always felt when Shaws been injured we’ve been weak down that side, especially in the final third. He may not be the greatest defending full back, but attacking wise he has a great understanding and link up with Rashford. We will miss him over the next few months.
18.) 01 Sep 2023 12:18:28
Somebody explain to me why Avlaro isn't ready for the big games.
He played a full season in the Championship last season, won Preston's young player of the year.
Didn't Mason Mount do the same thing at Derby County and the next two seasons he ended up being Chelsea's player of the season.
It's boll*cks this excuse that he isn't ready. ETH needs to grow a set of balls and give the kid a chance and coach his way out of the predicamenthe is in instead of getting second rate defender on loan that will increase the wage bill.
19.) 01 Sep 2023 13:06:21
Fernandez is a good player. But we need two with Malacia and Shaw out for 3 months. Fernandez and Reguilon for LB and AWB and Dalot for RB.
20.) 01 Sep 2023 13:11:19
You’re seriously trying to say that because a player did well in the championship you’re automatically ready to start for a club challenging for champions league spots in the Prem Sim0? If that’s the case why don’t we just go and sign Burnley’s left back, they were gray last season in the championship, but now they’re looking like favourites for relegation. There’s a huge step up between the leagues, and I trust Ten Haags judgment as he sees the kid every day. I’d be willing to guess you didn’t watch a single Preston game last season, but you’re demanding our young kid who played for them starts. I’d also be willing to guess you’d be the first to criticise the club if we did play him and it was a disaster and ruined the young man’s confidence and potentially his career, and asking why we didn’t look to bring some cover in for Shaws injury.
21.) 01 Sep 2023 13:20:42
Ever considered that EtH has been watching him during training, seeing him close up try to do what the manager has asked tactically.
Maybe he hasn't impressed, playing well on loan in the championship is a good start, it doesn't mean he's ready to play regularly at the top end of the EPL.
We have a manager who has given Garnacho a chance, a real chance. While he's supposedly looking to do the same with Mainoo this season. It's not like he's not prepared to give youth a chance when he thinks the are ready. If he's not giving Alvaro Fernandez a chance then it's probably based on something he has seen in him close up.
22.) 01 Sep 2023 13:40:17
Yes sim all players that win young player of the year are ready because one player was a few years ago. I’d rather trust the manager watching him day in day out that he’s not ready than you who’ve seen him play a handful of games in the championship. Why would they need an excuse? He just isn’t ready yet.
23.) 01 Sep 2023 13:57:48
Because the coaching staff and amanager who work with him daily have decided he isnt.
I saw him several times as Deepdale, was fast and a exciting going forward, they uses hin more as a wingback.
Knocks exactly what you would expect from a kid, bit lightweight, gassed as games wore on and needs experience to learn how to read a game bettwr.
PnE fans of whom i have a few in my family really thought highly of him. I thought he would go to another loan this year to be honest.
24.) 01 Sep 2023 16:15:00
Stop being so stupid JE888.
I was saying that the kid deserves a chance considering all the injuries we have in the left back position.
And where does signing Burnley's left back come in to the equation tell me, what a silly thing to say.
If the kid isn't given a chance then how is anyone going to find out if he can cut it.
I keep referring back to Rashford, where would he be now if we didn't have those two injuries against Midtjylland?
Typical United we go out and cough up another few million pounds on a sh*te full back who can't even get a game at Spurs.
25.) 01 Sep 2023 16:42:19
Sorry but I trust the manager over you mate. He works with the player every day. The coaching staff will know if he’s ready. You do keep referring to Rashford, but forward players are different. A mistake at the top end of the pitch is far less likely to lead to a goal. We can’t just throw a young kid in to a top 4 challenging team with no other player who can adequately cover that position and hope for the best. It could destroy his confidence if he doesn’t do well.
Young players need bedding in. Who knows, he may get a chance and take it with both hands during Shaws injury. He may do brilliantly and keep anyone else out of the team. However he may get a chance and not do well. Then we’ve got a player who is faltering and struggling game after game and no real alternative. If that was the case he may never recover his confidence for the club.
He may end up wasting all the talent he has because we forced him to step up too soon. Have some patience. Ten Haag gave Garnacho a chance. I’m sure Fernandez will get a chance as well in time, if he’s good enough. We’ve had high hopes for many players in the past and few have worked out. Rashford so far is pretty much the only academy graduate in over 10 years who’s made the grade. Why put all this pressure on the lad?
26.) 01 Sep 2023 19:31:34
Je888 how old is Fernandez? You say can’t chuck young players in without bedding them in could destroy there confidence, yep correct, but don’t the same then apply to our new striker, who is only 20 and will have more eyes on him then any full back but we are expecting him to go straight and and be our Number 9. Why don’t same rules apply to him then as what you pointed out?
Please I’m curiuos.
27.) 02 Sep 2023 09:57:37
Why do some of you think he won't get a chance?
With Shaw and Malcia out for a few months, it would be uuter stupidity to rely entirely on Fernandez. What if he got injured? Or just couldn't handle the workload or pressure of playing nearly every game?
With Reguillon, we can give Fernandez chances and playing time, but without being totally reliant on him. Dalot isn't great on the left, and we need him for cover on the right too, so only having him and Fernandez for left back for 3 months or more wouldn't be smart.
I think Reguillon might do better than some of you think, too. If AWB plays on the right, he is well suited for staying back to form a back three when Reguillon pushes forward, giving us width when Rashford comes inside.
Reguillon may not be who anyone, fan or management, would have preferred, but I think he'll do a decent job for a few months.
04 Jul 2023 16:28:15
Could all be fake news again (we have been here before) but there are strong rumours that the sale could be hours away and the Glazers are ready to sign off on it.
Rio was also hinting yesterday that today was a key date.
Lets hope this is true and we can finally move forward without the Glazers assuming it is the Qatari bid.
1.) 04 Jul 2023 16:44:53
The sale has been hours away since March ?.
2.) 04 Jul 2023 16:46:09
This has come from Al Raya a newspaper in Doha, not sure how reliable anyone knows this paper is. As you say been here before so will believe it when I see see it, after all it’s Independence Day in America whether that would have any affect on any announcement I don’t know.
3.) 04 Jul 2023 16:46:47
Sure he said the same weeks ago too ?.
It may happen, but if I were a gambling man….
4.) 04 Jul 2023 17:00:34
I think people are jumping to conclusions because I think if a business is sold on the New York stock exchange, it has to close and as it’s Independence Day it’s closed today…. I have no idea if this is true just what I’ve read/ heard.
5.) 04 Jul 2023 17:02:06
The poignancy of Independence Day.
6.) 04 Jul 2023 17:36:57
Rio has shown himself to be very unreliable on the sale process. Not sure why he is burning any rep he has on something he quite clearly has zero inside track on. He is announcing "deal done" every few days, presume hid is going for the stopped clock approach to being right.
7.) 04 Jul 2023 18:16:00
Let’s hope uniteds Independence Day isn’t too far away ?.
8.) 04 Jul 2023 19:10:19
Its been around 1200 hours since Rio last said it was hours away so I suppose he s not completely wrong.
9.) 04 Jul 2023 19:21:22
I'm 1 million percent sure Rio is on the money.
10.) 04 Jul 2023 19:48:11
As we say with transfers, until they are holding a scarf above their head at Old Trafford, then it is just a rumour.
11.) 04 Jul 2023 20:31:28
If true, a sad day for Manchester United and football in general …., but still I guess we’ll get to buy lots of shiny new toys.
12.) 04 Jul 2023 21:10:31
The only announcement we will hear, is one that days the Glazers are staying.
13.) 04 Jul 2023 22:24:05
I got a bit emotional/ ranty in a reply that wasn't put up apologies to the eds, but I'm with hatter I think there here to stay.
14.) 04 Jul 2023 22:28:33
I doubt we'll be getting the public announcement on July 4th, and tomorrow I'm starting a trip to Idaho for ten days, so they'll have to wait until I'm back.
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12 Jul 2024 10:34:34
Looks like our first 2 or even 3 signings could be dutch. Zirkzee looks like only medical to do, De Ligt also looks close now that Euros are over for him. Rumours today that RvN and EtH have asked for Xavi Simmons loan option to be explored with PSG so assume this is happening as part of the Ugate discussions.
All would add a lot of skill and different to what we currently have. Would be a good start to the window.
1.) 12 Jul 2024 11:20:21
I do hope ETH isn't too involved in transfers under the new set up as his record here is poor, let him have his say by all means but we are supposed to have some top people involved in recruitment now - there's no other way to say it.
Zirkzee was sent out on loan 3 times by Bayern (Harry Kane was sent out a few times as well years back by Spurs ) he's got something like 15 goals in 49 games in the Italian league and came on for minutes in the euros -behind Weghorst - don't know much about him but even his clips on youtube are nothing special.
Im hoping its one of those situations where the pieces of the puzzle fit, on their own they look out of place but connected to others it makes sense. i'm giving the lad a chance but can't help wondering if yesterdays reports of Ivan Toney being available for 45 mill plus add ons are true that he might have been the better bet.
2.) 12 Jul 2024 11:47:04
I don’t know about the better bet, but Toney is definitely the better better.
3.) 12 Jul 2024 11:51:37
I'm with Burrenwayboy. Zirkzee's stats are not great, another player with potential who may or may not work out.
MDL I am more excited about, there is an awesome player in there.
4.) 12 Jul 2024 12:02:02
I think its the profile tony, his ability to play a different role to Hojlund which will allow our wingers to play in behind more often.
I'm excited by it. ETH is adding more strings to the bow. I think we may surprise a few next season, should we be able to sign what's required.
5.) 12 Jul 2024 12:10:42
Zirkzee or Martial, tough one.
6.) 12 Jul 2024 12:23:56
I hope so angel, I guess it's how many we buy and where they fit in. I just hope there is some proper science involved as we have bought some very average players in recent years.
7.) 12 Jul 2024 12:29:27
I’m with you angel.
We lacked depth last season. We’ve historically paid over the top prices for average players.
Now we’re bringing in more depth and at a reasonable price, and people are still moaning before the lad has even signed on the dotted line.
I think Zirkzee will offer something different. He favours the left side of the pitch which mirrors Højlund, and we’ll have another solution if we need to change things tactically.
Either way let’s give the lad a chance before throwing him to the wolves.
8.) 12 Jul 2024 13:12:27
I hope he turns out to be a success.
It's about getting tj first or second code targets.
We will know this time next year if our recruitment has been good.
Personally I like some of the targets and not others but that's totally irrelevant.
I've not seen zirkzee play a full match ever a few you tube highlights.
Same for yoro I've seen ugarte play a couple of games.
De ligt I've seen plenty of
I really hope we get JB who is the 1st choice.
Midfield will be interesting. Amrabat is worse than ericksen and casimero imo so I how we don't sign him .
It will be interesting to see if Bruno or rashford jump ship. I think both will stay but I'm hoping one or the other leaves and we get some decent money in to reinvest.
Mainoo will be our played of the season next year I think.
9.) 12 Jul 2024 13:31:56
Wasn't Toney a similar age when he was flopping at Newcastle?
10.) 12 Jul 2024 14:39:03
If we are looking at Xavi Simons, you would assume that Bruno is off to Saudi. My personal opinion, is that if we get a massive fee for Bruno, Simons makes sense as you are getting a player almost 10 years younger with a statistically similar output. A loan with a fixed obligation to buy would be fantastic as it would shift the capital outlay to another financial period.
11.) 12 Jul 2024 14:44:16
Really hope that we don't reach middle ground with Everton over Branthwaite as they want double his value. English + Utd has equated to having our pants pulled down too much over a very long period, hope we move on from such deals.
But he's young and raw, so that makes it ok! :D.
12.) 12 Jul 2024 15:37:29
So spenno you want the club to sign your preferred players and not theirs. Interesting perspective.
13.) 12 Jul 2024 17:59:20
Different summer, different owners, same split fan opinion on the signings. Some things never change.
Personally I really like the Zirkzee signing, I know a lot of people will look at his goal output as a striker and make assumptions. Yet he isn't a classic striker, he's more of a false 9/ 9 and a half type player. He drops deep off the line, pulling a CB out of position with him, collects the ball and plays it through into the space he's created for a wide forward to have a shot.
Hojlund has one of the best conversion rates of any striker in the league last season but still didn't score many. That was because we have wide players who look to cut in and shoot rather than pass. A player like Zirkzee will not only play the ball through for that kind of wide player, but his movement will make more space for them. Meaning they will get both more chances and chances of a higher quality. I think he could be really good.
While not at that level yet (maybe he never will get there), but he's very similar to Firmino in style of play. Like Firmino he won't score huge numbers, but he'll hopefully create the space and opportunity for players like Rashford, Garnacho, Amad and even Antony to score far more goals. I also wouldn't be stunned to see Hojlund maybe play some games on the right with Zirkzee in the middle.
He's the kind of player who can help a team click in attack by doing the off the ball work needed to open up space for others.
MdL is clearly a good player, potentially great. From what I've seen of him though I'm not convinced he's the right player for us to play alongside Martinez. Both players are aggressive front foot defenders who would ideally be paired with a quick, mobile sweeper style CB.
Leny Yoro worries me, he's clearly a fantastically talented young player. But he looks very lightweight in Ligue 1, and I think he could easily get bullied in the EPL. Very few CB's play regularly in the EPL at 18 years old. It's not a league that is forgiving to young defenders who are learning their craft. I actually think in the EPL he'd be better off playing at RB for a few season's while he learns, develops and fills out a bit.
Wes Brown was another super talented young CB who needed to play regular football at a higher level than the under 23's, but didn't have the physicality to play CB in the EPL at that point. So was forced to play games at RB to get minutes. He was physically more developed than Yoro looks right now. Unfortunately for Brown he suffered with injuries and never fulfilled his potential. Maybe that was bad luck, or maybe that was due to playing too many games at the intensity of the EPL at such a young age while his body was still developing.
I really like Branthwaite and think he makes more sense than most of the CB's we've been linked with. Great defensive awareness for a player of his age/ experience, a physical monster, tall, strong, quick, comfortable on the ball, press resistant, able to play LCB or RCB, English and counts towards our homegrown quota, and has EPL experience so is less likely to flop. No other CB we've been linked with ticks all of those boxes.
Ugarte looks like the right sort of midfielder we need along side Mainoo. I also like Joao Gomes from Wolves, who is a similar profile.
No doubt some people will agree with me, and some won't. You might agree with some of what I've said and disagree with other parts.
Ultimately I'm the same as everyone else on here, its just another opinion and I guess we'll find out over the course of the season whether this summer's transfer business has been good or not.
14.) 13 Jul 2024 06:19:45
shappy
You have clearly never watched yoro if you think he is a light weight. I can assure you he will not get tossed to the side like a box of kleneex like br did when he was covering halaand.
Your have an overly biased opinion of BR. Ask yourself something are all the scouts for Real, United, PSG, Liverpool wrong to be all in for yoro and why is no one else bidding or even trying for BR. He may be a good player but not at the crazy valuation they have on him. Bremer and Arujo are similar sort of number and they are worlds apart imo.
You keep going on about home grown, we don't need to have our pants pulled down to buy a British defender who will not start ahead of Martinez or Deligt if he comes and definitely not yoro. if we get Yoro imo its the biggest signing we have made in 10 years and buying someone who is potentially the best cb for many years in football. 42 mill euro given what players cost will look like chicken feed in a couple of seasons.
I would take Guehi if we are going english. The Serbian guy from RB who looks like going to AC milan or NC is great buy at 23 imo.
As you said new season and split opinion from the fan base.
15.) 13 Jul 2024 10:05:03
Yoro or MDL alongside Martinez Ahmad?
16.) 13 Jul 2024 10:51:31
Yoro, MdL, Branthwaite, Martinez would be a good balance of CBs. Evans as the 5th.
Maguire, Lindelof and Varane out.
I prefer Zirkzee over Toney as he offers a different profile. Shappy is correct on the Firmino comparison. Seems we’re linked with Tony still. Hojlund, Zirkzee and Tony would be great but only if we plan to play 2 up top.
Xavi Simons makes no sense unless Bruno is going.
I’d give Sancho another chance if we can move on Antony. Sancho, Amad, Rashford, Garnacho, Zirkzee and Hojlund is a quality six to pick from.
Replacing Casemiro with Ugarte is a good move. I think Tom Collyer is going to replace Amrabat, we need an Eriksen replacement.
I’m very encouraged by our strategy this summer, acting like a top club for a change.
17.) 13 Jul 2024 11:42:06
Ahmad, I've seen Yoro play in 3 or 4 full matches, so I admit that isn't as many as I've seen Branthwaite.
I've also seen Yoro brushed off the ball by far smaller players than Haaland. Who is probably the best striker in the world and a physical freak in terms of size, strength and pace.
If the bench mark is only signing players who Haaland hasn't got the better of then there probably isn't any defenders we can sign. He's made VvD and Saliba (probably the two best CB's in the league) look poor/ average.
I'm not saying Yoro isn't a talented player, to play the number of games he has at his age suggests that he is a special player.
However, there is a world of difference between playing as an 18 year old CB in a less physical league like Ligue 1 or La Liga and playing in the EPL. Which is not only far more physical, but also has the most top class forwards in it compared to other leagues.
Players of Toney's quality for example would be playing for a regular UCL team in any other top European league. Yet in the EPL he plays for a mid-table side.
That's the strength of the EPL, pretty much every team has a forward or two who could be playing European football for a club outside of the EPL. Which means for defenders your mistakes are punished far more regularly.
The last 18 year old CB who played regularly for an EPL team was Phil Jones for Blackburn.
Why do you think so few 18 year old CB's get to play regularly in the EPL?
I think in time Yoro could turn out to be a good signing, but I think the first season or two he will have a rude awakening in the EPL and will make regular mistakes and will need to learn very quickly. If he does (and I think he would) then he'll become a top player.
The question is do you think our team is strong enough to carry him for two years while he learns?
At a club like Real Madrid or PSG the league is easier (kinder to defenders), and he'd be at a club with real quality around him to carry him while he develops.
That's a very different atmosphere and situation to be in for a young player.
Personally I think Yoro and Branthwaite have a similar level of potential. Different sort of CB's with their own strengths and weaknesses, but both have the potential to be one of the top 5 CB's in the world in a few years time. For me the difference is that I know one of them is ready and capable of performing in the EPL right now, while the other would need to do something few others have ever done to prove he is capable of doing so right now.
Both would be signing players with potential for the future, but we do need them to still contribute significantly right now. Which is why given the budget restrictions and the weakness of our current squad I'd favour the player who is more of a guarantee to perform immediately as well as become a top player in the future.
04 Jul 2024 09:03:02
If you have not seen it yet King Eric has done a podcast with the Rest is Football.
Just hearing him talk, reminisce, talk about his life and what makes him tick. Amazing player and person, we are lucky to have him as one of us.
12 Jun 2024 10:30:39
Now the manager decision has been made the club can continue the work for next season. Deciding on EtH does give clarity to some questions we have been seeing:
1. Goalkeeper - Onana will remain for next season as EtH's choice
2. Sancho - There is no way back if there ever was. Get the sale done so this does not hangover the club for any longer
3. Greenwood - No way back and will be sold. Regarless of which side we fall we do not need the negativity that would come at every ground.
4. Youth - We should continue to see the young players being given an opportunity and be around the first team. This has been one of EtH's successes whether choice or forced due to injuries.
The club need to clear out some of the deadwood and recruit correctly whilst identifying players coming through. I am excited with the structure but we need to see it in action.
1.) 12 Jun 2024 13:04:07
I also think we stumbled on a better formation late on. False striker which ballows us to have am extra central midfielder.
Give Amad games, promote youth, buy well, not a lot to ask for is it?
2.) 12 Jun 2024 14:08:08
Good points.
It’s sounds like EtHs involvement in transfers is changing but perhaps Frenkie and David could be realistic.
3.) 12 Jun 2024 15:29:17
Utd Road. de Jong has just been ruled out of the Euros (actually gutted as I was looking forward to seeing him play) . I'm not sure how bad his injury is or if it will impact on any potential transfer.
4.) 12 Jun 2024 16:14:21
Frenkie and David? Do they make ice cream?
5.) 12 Jun 2024 16:15:47
Wazza
He has had ankle issues most of the season and this is his third injury this year.
6.) 12 Jun 2024 19:57:01
Ahmad, sounds like he’ll fit right in!
05 Dec 2023 09:31:42
The Chelsea game will be interesting, they are very up and down and still trying to find there consistency and style with all the changes, for all of this they attack well. We are just moving from game to game with no improvements.
EtH needs to get balance in the squad, not sure what is going on with Varane but no matter we need to have Shaw at LB. Play Maguire/ Lindelof or Maguire/ Varane. Either wise we need some balance at the back.
We need to play a double pivot rather than two number 8's. For me we should go with Mainoo/ Amrabat even if they are not viewed as the best midfielders they give us balance with one allowed to bridge the gap to the number 8. We cannot play with a single holding player.
Hopefully Hojlund is fit and can play rather than Martial. Rashford should be on the bench and we should play Antony/ Garnacho as the wide players and tell them with Fernandes to work hard pressing the ball knowing that Mainoo/ Amrabat are behind them for next phase.
1.) 05 Dec 2023 09:49:19
Brad76
Agree with all of that. Chelsea will have caldeco and fernades both are combative players and one holding midfielder will always struggle. they also have Nkunu back finally who is a top player imo.
2.) 05 Dec 2023 12:08:11
Will be a big test. Two sides who've been embroiled in lengthy transitions and a million miles from the finished article. A huge part of me dislikes the way the Chelsea ownership came in and collected players for fun like kids in a toy shop, with no rhyme nor reason to what they needed, based vaguely on a simple ideal of buying the best young players at any cost and putting them on the longest contract possible. Yet as Utd fans I'm sure we're all envious of what they've put in and some of those players they've been able to obtain, even if none of it has clicked in the slighted.
Gotta go for a draw here.
{Ed002's Note - The young players Chelsea purchased were part of the Vision 2030 plan the club maintains year on year.}
3.) 05 Dec 2023 12:47:45
Brad, even if Hojland is injured Martial shouldn't even be in the squad and neither should Rashford.
In fact I think neither of them should play for Man Utd again and should be sold ASAP at whatever loss is needed to move them on.
I'd rather Fred the red played up front.
4.) 05 Dec 2023 15:15:57
I’m glad people have finally woken up about Rashford
Ship him out, at least some mugs would still be willing to offer decent money for him god only knows why
Everything associated with the club is embarrassing
Only one common denominator the GLAZERS.
5.) 05 Dec 2023 17:40:11
If there’s anyone on here whose watched that press conference and doesn’t feels utterly furious that our manager again is coming under attack from a collaboration of sly lying journalists and a handful of cowards within our group then your not a true supporter!
We should be right behind this guy, he needs to be the one we back! Forget playing styles etc last season he showed us what we can do with his tools, this season injuries and attitude has come to the fore again! We need to be vocal tomorrow night in backing ETH!
But he needs to not treat us like fools either, rashford Martial must not be in that 11, accepting that performance Saturday is unforgivable!
6.) 05 Dec 2023 18:54:06
I'm still scratching my head wondering what the great performances he keeps referring to were, or when he's going to stop citing wins over sub-standard teams as proof 'the process' is working.
7.) 05 Dec 2023 19:11:04
spenno
why is liverpools win at home against Fulham celebrated when they score two late goals and our away win at Fulham and two late goals against Brentford is shameful and not celebrated. strange standards applied.
Why is peps game management not questioned when giving away two leads to liverpool and spurs at home for draws and no player being blamed but if it was us we get labeled for lack of character, eth poor game management, a player or two gets blamed and just a circus. its just toxic stuff all the time no matter what.
8.) 05 Dec 2023 21:45:38
Ahmed. With respect I don't think even your over-optimistic self can claim to have steered clear of making the occasional 'toxic' post, I could probably pull a few out from last week if I looked. Maybe next week, who knows?
The point is, I can watch Liverpool and City and irrespective of the result I know I'll be entertained no matter what. I follow Utd but enjoy watching other teams too, and the fact is that for literally a decade I've enjoyed watching most other teams a lot more than the one I fell in love with in the eighties. Whether we're in yet another transition or not (I've lost count), I'm convinced less and less by the manager and some of his decisions. That's not buying into anything created wrongly or rightly by the media, that's just by watching (for my sins) every Utd game and ten Hag press conference. The 'process' is wearing thin and I think he's on borrowed time.
9.) 05 Dec 2023 23:52:38
Because this is United and you carry the weight of the Babes, of Duncan Edwards, Charlton of the the 68 team and the Holy trinity of Fergies teams every time you step out.
You aren't judged the same at United just as you aren't at Liverpool or Real. You either can cope reith that eight off expectation or yttou can't.
10.) 06 Dec 2023 05:01:19
Just saw the arsenal score vs luton. All i say is there would be uproar if we had to score a 96th winner and had conceeded 3 goals. The media and even some of the fans and some here would focus on struggling against a side like luton and stealing it at the end.
The goals raya conceeded would also be a hot topic if it was onana. It is what it is and a reset will not change that.
Reality is let’s assume sjr makes changes and given our finances we will not be able to reload with top quality players and struggle sitting 7th or 8th next year. The uproar and him and his team being wrong would be the next chapter. Its a cycle we have created and some of it is pur own doing.
11.) 06 Dec 2023 05:19:17
Oak
You are spot on but it living in the past and one of the reasons we go through this cycle. Even if a manager is right we never find out as we lose patients and want a change. I know ed002 thinks he will be replaced, i do hope he is wrong and we stick it out.
Best thing sjr and his team can do is clean up the squad and move a bunch of players on let him build a team from his players and see where we end up.
12.) 06 Dec 2023 08:35:46
Ahmed, I think you are creating odd non-existent scenarios. If you can predict the future that well you should perhaps look for a new profession like Biff from Back to the Future with the Grays Sports Almanac!
13.) 06 Dec 2023 12:29:09
Spenno
Mark my words the next manager and SJR regime will suck for 2 years and there will be turmoil. I will bet on this as united's complexity of contracts, wages, finances are not something fixable in a year or two but 4 or 5 years. it will be an uproar as the fix is such a longer term project but we have no patients for it.
I also suspect the culling of the squad will not happen as people expect it, because we can't afford it or guys like maguire, mc, martial, dvb would have been gone already. The next guy will have to do with a lot of the same guys here today bar a few.
Its not back to the future but back to the past and something that we repeat over and over.
It took Ineos 3 mangers in 4 years at nice and hopefully they learnt from that. nice did not have 10% of the issues United has and does not have the sort of competition we have in the pl, where a the teams are all spending vast sums every year.
There is no way anyone can convince me we need a change as a manager after 14 games into a second season, where he took over a shi. t show of a team and organization who finished 8th the previous year, won a trophy got us to another final and finished 3rd in the league. its madness. Fergie finished 2nd, 11th, 8th, 11th in his first 4 years at United.
14.) 06 Dec 2023 17:01:56
I imagine Fergie wouldn't have made it to the end of his second season at Utd in the modern game. As a loose rule we say managers are given the golden 3 seasons to mess around with the squad and show what they can do, they don't all make it that far though if the bigwigs aren't convinced things are progressing. Guess they saw enough in Fergie at the time that he was making a positive impact, and of course we were more patient in those days.
15.) 06 Dec 2023 19:16:29
Spenno
journos, Social media, the numerous pundits, fan channels has made it so difficult when things don't go well and institutional ownerships of football clubs have a lower tolerance.
You get away with it if you have really good players and a squad in general and good recruiting and hire and fire managers like chelsea have done for years and still been successful because the next guy gets a tune out of good players which the previous guy could not.
I don't think we have a great squad or a lot of really good players and hiring and firing managers has not changed anything. Add in poor recruitment and we are kind of stuck with players that go back to 4 managers.
09 Nov 2023 09:51:56
Dissapointing result against Copenhagen, our inability to adapt, individual errors and some iffy refereeing/ VAR decisions.
However, I do thing we saw some promise for going forward (hopefully not a false dawn), really good first 30 mins, good 20 mins in second half when we settled down.
I think the front 4 of Garnacho, Rashford, Hojlund and Fernandes should start the Luton game and also post international break. We need some consistency, give them a chance to build as a unit.
With Cassimero out and McTominy currently in favour I would hope that Amrabat gets a run of games with alongside him.
Varane now has a chance to get some game time with Evans possibly out, unfortunately this moves Maguire to the left side which I think has been identified as part of his problem (even though he has played there most of his time) .
Lets get at Luton, and come out of the international break fighting. We are still not out of the CL. just got to win next 2 games!
1.) 09 Nov 2023 11:40:00
I quite like the idea of Rashford on the right. Takes away the temptation to keep cutting inside and shooting when on the left. He delivers a good cross as well from the right which will be great for Hoijlund. Garnacho isn't concerned about going on the outside when playing on the left either so isn't as predictable.
2.) 09 Nov 2023 12:51:05
So we paid £60m for a bench player in Mount?
3.) 09 Nov 2023 13:22:31
I’m even worried about Ganarcho attitude if I’m honest, he is not kicking on and the childish attitude is not helping A 17 year old come on for Danes he played like a 28 year old.
Arambat is woeful and miles out of his league, Mount can’t even get in a useless team So many problems
When we used to train we used to train losing a man or 2 to a red, this team don’t even look like it trains with 11, there is a severe problem here with the coaching ETH comes into that too what does he do on the training pitch, I don’t buy these excuses of injuries or everything against us, nobody in that team got a clue what they are supposed to be doing or how to do it
Remember this is little Copenhagen, and at end of day we got a pen that was not even a pen but forgetting all that this is a poor team poorly coached poorly managed it’s going nowhere fast in fact Luton could be the final nail in the coffin!
McLaren is yesteryear too he not exactly being discounted from this shambles.
I heard ETH say we played well for 10 mins well the game now is 100 mins not 10
SHOCKING.
4.) 09 Nov 2023 13:40:49
I think Garnacho and Mctominay are better as subs against tired legs. Varane does not look great and the whole defence fall to pieces under any pressure. At the minute Maguire actually looks our best defender. The midfield keep giving the ball away, especially Bruno. Copenhagen are no better than celtic and looking good for 30 minutes is nothing to be optimistic about.
5.) 09 Nov 2023 14:31:30
Rangered
You are posting so much non sense and making things up.
6.) 09 Nov 2023 15:43:46
It's a brave manager who, a goal down with ten minutes to go, takes off his only striker and replaces him with Mason Mount.
7.) 09 Nov 2023 16:19:27
Hojlund was shattered. He spent 60 minutes pressing from the front and being our only attacking outlet. Literally going from chasing and harrying to turning and sprinting to get in behind. Then when it doesn't get through to him turning back around and chasing the ball down.
We needed more energy and someone who could press and defend. It was no slight on Hojlund who was excellent last night. Just a case of his race had been run. Also with Rashford now banned for the next must win UCL game we will rely on Hojlund all the more. We need to protect him and keep him well looked after.
8.) 10 Nov 2023 01:45:51
Ahmad,
It’s him again mate, just ignore it, it will get blocked soon.
22 Jul 2024 14:28:00
I would be relaxed with either Maguire/ Lindelof to leave or both if it was possible but we may want to be mindful of injuries again. If one of them stays for a further year as 4th/ 5th choice then that's okay.
I would be happy with Martinez/ De Ligt/ Yoro sharing the game time and think De Ligt/ Yoro are intelligent enough to cover left side when Martinez not playing.
We can then clear out all of the remaining next season with one additional CB/ bring through from the youth team.
16 Jul 2024 08:43:07
De Ligt looks like the easiest of the deals and probably the one most likely soon. Regardless of whether we end up getting Yoro or Branthwaite it is obvious a second central defender will come in and we will just move to our next in the list.
Realistically this is what we should be doing with all areas of the team. Work on multiple deals for our top targets and be ready to switch if it is a no or price becomes too high.
15 Jul 2024 15:55:40
The club need to decide whether they see a benefit in having McTominay as an impact sub and if so extend his deal for 12 months. If not then move him on which will help with PSR.
Within the premier league he should look at an Everton/ West Ham level team where he will be a big player. Other teams either will not fit the profile he will want or lower in the division.
I agree that I don't see him going abroad, however we have seen others do this and be successful so long as they choose the right club.
13 Jul 2024 12:14:28
We are definitely only getting 2 new CBs. If we need a 3rd I think we would look cheap end.
Yoro is a potential generational talent that makes sense to go for. Otherwise I think it is definitely de ligt/ Branthwaite.
13 Jul 2024 09:44:51
I will still be surprised to see Sanchi still with the club once the window shuts.
However this allows for him to show what he can do in pre season, see whether he can reintegrate with the new coaching structure.
Would not be surprised if he still moves late in the window.
20 Jul 2024 14:22:53
On last year's performances Rabiot would be an upgrade on any of Casimero, Ericson, McTominay and Amrabat.
Don't look at careers just what they are offering at the minute and Rabiot was very good for Juventus.
Do I want him, not particularly but can see the logic as second midfield addition.
On the whole I like the clubs moves so I am not going to be bothered with this one if it happens and trust the logic.
18 Jul 2024 09:39:56
I was having a similar conversation with my 11 year old boy and we came to the conclusion that our improvements will come from:
- Back 5 will improve with less injuries and better skilled players on the ball. We will see the real Onana as well who does not need to hit the ball long all the time
- Midfield will improve with a better player at HM with good fitness allowing Mainoo, Fenandes, whoever else to be more progressive and push higher up the pitch
- Attack will improve with a better second option at striker and Hojlund into second season. Solving the right side, whether that is new player, giving the position to Garnacho or Amad develops.
- Selling the dead wood - we have so many players that we can move on without impacting the first team. We will need to fill the gap with new players or develop from the youth teams. But, big wages on players not benefiting the team
Could be an exciting year.
16 Jul 2024 16:30:08
Considering the mess that he walked into when he first took over there is no doubt that he has been a successful England manager (unless we are being black and white and only a trophy is success) .
He has pulled the players together and over achieved in previous tournaments. We should thank him for what he has done, the most successful manager since Sir Alf Ramsey.
Was the football exhilerating - no, should he have done more with the current crop - possibly. But across the whole tenure he has been a success.
Now they need to pick a more modern, attack minded coach to take us onto the next tournament.
15 Jul 2024 15:16:27
The dissapointing thing from the tournament is that we did not evolve properly.
Southgate stumbled on 343 that whilst not brilliant at least gave us some attacking intent keeping Bellingham and Foden in the middle where they like being and dovetail each other. Then in the final move away from that to try and offset the Spanish wingers rather than make them have to think about defending us.
Southgate talks about fatigue and then does not trust the bench in the group games to allow for players like Bellingham/ Kane etc to get some rest. Would we have been any worse off in those games with the other players we took.
Gordon/ Eze/ Palmer getting so few minutes when it was crying out for something different is crazy.
On a positive note we can go forward into the World Cup qualifiers with the nucleous of a really good squad. I think Kane/ Trippier/ Walker will retire from Internationals. We have seen some breakout stars in Mainoo/ Ghei/ Palmer with some more coming through. With the right manager we could see us get over the hill at some point in this generation of players.
11 Jul 2024 08:58:46
In all honesty does it really matter. It will likely be less than Newcastle were asking, more than we had initially offered, significant enough to help them with the PSR issue they had but not too prehibative to our own.
He is in, and working this summer. All that matters
We get who we want and they get Mitchell so are happy. Win win.