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31 Aug 2023 21:49:24
So looks like Reguilon will be coming in as LB cover. Would have preferred Cucurella only based on his Brighton form and not seen much of Reguilon. however we are in a position of balancing the books hopefully for other positions.
But. what should we expect from Reguilon. what sort of a player is he.
1.) 31 Aug 2023 22:00:43
Defensively frail but was good against us in the Europa League when he played for Seville.
2.) 31 Aug 2023 22:01:48
Played for both Madrid sides. Spurs paid £30m for a fullback. So was highly regarded. Just never really took off at Spurs.
3.) 31 Aug 2023 22:38:13
A mediocre one. Would be better off trusting in our youth options. Heck. I’d sooner play Dalot there.
4.) 31 Aug 2023 23:41:04
Another bad signing.
5.) 01 Sep 2023 06:24:29
Let’s hope the poor lad doesn’t read this forum ?
He’s a short term fix to an injury crisis and may only be here for 4 months. No doubt match going supporters will be right behind him.
6.) 01 Sep 2023 09:10:43
Clearly had some pedigree at some point, I'm sure he'll be at least a decent option until our LB injuries subside. Would have preferred Cucurella as he could cover at CB too and was great bombing forward in his Brighton days but looks like it was turning into an expensive option whereas Spurs need to clear a few out.
7.) 01 Sep 2023 09:18:01
Wazza if he read this forum he’d never of signed ??.
8.) 01 Sep 2023 09:48:23
Wazza,
We will mate, think it’s utter madness when people write signings off before they have played a game for the club.
9.) 01 Sep 2023 09:48:24
Seem to remember people upset we didn't get him a few years ago to replace Shaw who the same people wanted out.
10.) 01 Sep 2023 09:50:14
Crazy that Alvaro Fernandez didn't get a shot at left back.
The mind boggles, he looks a quality player.
ETH talks about players not quite being ready and loaned out but until you get that chance nobody will know.
Rashford is a prime example.
IMO Fernandez would do as good a job if not better than Reguilon who is very poor defensively.
11.) 01 Sep 2023 10:26:16
Before he played a game. He played for spurs. He isn't good enough for the spurs team.
12.) 01 Sep 2023 10:49:10
LeahCorky I don’t think he’s what anyone at the club would have chosen, but needs must. Dalot looked very very shaky at LB last weekend and with Shaw out for a considerable amount of time we have little options. We’re not going to sign a LB permanently as Shaw has been an excellent player for us for a long time now and the money needs investing elsewhere in the squad. Cucurrella has been seemingly overpriced by Chelsea and also on high wages, I think I read it would be 15 million all in all to have him for the season, it’s a huge fee considering he’d probably be second choice when Shaw is back. Nothing wrong with signing an out of favour PL LB for a few months until our first choice is back.
13.) 01 Sep 2023 11:20:42
When you consider Spurs are well stocked there too.
Udogie
Perisic
Sessegnon.
14.) 01 Sep 2023 11:30:14
‘For the club’ was the important part of that you missed out Leahy. Some players look poor at one club and look great at another, most wanted AWB out under our previous manager but ETH has turned him into a decent full back, no reason why Reguilon can’t do a job.
Not sure what the plan is for Alvaro Fernandez, he isn’t ready to play for us in big league games, maybe he will get chances in the carabao etc if he doesn’t go on loan, I’d be extremely worried if we had him as our first choice full back for the next few months.
15.) 01 Sep 2023 11:44:55
Long long time reader first time poster. Can't believe how some on here seem to just settle for mediocrity. This is Manchester United . Reguillon is not good enough to get in the Spurs team so I'd much rather give youth a chance. Also JE888 Shaw has been an excellent player for us? Apart from a few performances he has been shocking. Mentally not up to it. Shambolic in the two hammerings against Liverpool. Doesn't like it when the going gets tough. Support them through thick and thin but could be a long season again. Failed to address the major issues in the team but yet we've spent over 150 million.
16.) 01 Sep 2023 11:45:12
My guess with Fernandez GTS is that Ten Haag doesn’t want to put too much pressure on him. I think if the team was firing and playing well it would be easier to introduce him, but to simply throw him into the first team that is misfiring a little at the moment with little other option will put a lot of pressure on the kid. Some players may thrive under that sort of pressure, but some crumble and never recover. Introducing a new player to the team is make or break time, and it needs to be done slowly and smartly. Just throwing him in at this time isn’t a good idea and a short term loan seems sensible. Fernandez may be highly regarded and may get his chance this season, but it will be likely done slowly like Garnacho was to begin with.
17.) 01 Sep 2023 12:07:01
KDWR Shaw was our player of the season a few years ago if memory serves me correct. You can pick out a couple of games of any players career and point at bad performances. I’ve always felt when Shaws been injured we’ve been weak down that side, especially in the final third. He may not be the greatest defending full back, but attacking wise he has a great understanding and link up with Rashford. We will miss him over the next few months.
18.) 01 Sep 2023 12:18:28
Somebody explain to me why Avlaro isn't ready for the big games.
He played a full season in the Championship last season, won Preston's young player of the year.
Didn't Mason Mount do the same thing at Derby County and the next two seasons he ended up being Chelsea's player of the season.
It's boll*cks this excuse that he isn't ready. ETH needs to grow a set of balls and give the kid a chance and coach his way out of the predicamenthe is in instead of getting second rate defender on loan that will increase the wage bill.
19.) 01 Sep 2023 13:06:21
Fernandez is a good player. But we need two with Malacia and Shaw out for 3 months. Fernandez and Reguilon for LB and AWB and Dalot for RB.
20.) 01 Sep 2023 13:11:19
You’re seriously trying to say that because a player did well in the championship you’re automatically ready to start for a club challenging for champions league spots in the Prem Sim0? If that’s the case why don’t we just go and sign Burnley’s left back, they were gray last season in the championship, but now they’re looking like favourites for relegation. There’s a huge step up between the leagues, and I trust Ten Haags judgment as he sees the kid every day. I’d be willing to guess you didn’t watch a single Preston game last season, but you’re demanding our young kid who played for them starts. I’d also be willing to guess you’d be the first to criticise the club if we did play him and it was a disaster and ruined the young man’s confidence and potentially his career, and asking why we didn’t look to bring some cover in for Shaws injury.
21.) 01 Sep 2023 13:20:42
Ever considered that EtH has been watching him during training, seeing him close up try to do what the manager has asked tactically.
Maybe he hasn't impressed, playing well on loan in the championship is a good start, it doesn't mean he's ready to play regularly at the top end of the EPL.
We have a manager who has given Garnacho a chance, a real chance. While he's supposedly looking to do the same with Mainoo this season. It's not like he's not prepared to give youth a chance when he thinks the are ready. If he's not giving Alvaro Fernandez a chance then it's probably based on something he has seen in him close up.
22.) 01 Sep 2023 13:40:17
Yes sim all players that win young player of the year are ready because one player was a few years ago. I’d rather trust the manager watching him day in day out that he’s not ready than you who’ve seen him play a handful of games in the championship. Why would they need an excuse? He just isn’t ready yet.
23.) 01 Sep 2023 13:57:48
Because the coaching staff and amanager who work with him daily have decided he isnt.
I saw him several times as Deepdale, was fast and a exciting going forward, they uses hin more as a wingback.
Knocks exactly what you would expect from a kid, bit lightweight, gassed as games wore on and needs experience to learn how to read a game bettwr.
PnE fans of whom i have a few in my family really thought highly of him. I thought he would go to another loan this year to be honest.
24.) 01 Sep 2023 16:15:00
Stop being so stupid JE888.
I was saying that the kid deserves a chance considering all the injuries we have in the left back position.
And where does signing Burnley's left back come in to the equation tell me, what a silly thing to say.
If the kid isn't given a chance then how is anyone going to find out if he can cut it.
I keep referring back to Rashford, where would he be now if we didn't have those two injuries against Midtjylland?
Typical United we go out and cough up another few million pounds on a sh*te full back who can't even get a game at Spurs.
25.) 01 Sep 2023 16:42:19
Sorry but I trust the manager over you mate. He works with the player every day. The coaching staff will know if he’s ready. You do keep referring to Rashford, but forward players are different. A mistake at the top end of the pitch is far less likely to lead to a goal. We can’t just throw a young kid in to a top 4 challenging team with no other player who can adequately cover that position and hope for the best. It could destroy his confidence if he doesn’t do well.
Young players need bedding in. Who knows, he may get a chance and take it with both hands during Shaws injury. He may do brilliantly and keep anyone else out of the team. However he may get a chance and not do well. Then we’ve got a player who is faltering and struggling game after game and no real alternative. If that was the case he may never recover his confidence for the club.
He may end up wasting all the talent he has because we forced him to step up too soon. Have some patience. Ten Haag gave Garnacho a chance. I’m sure Fernandez will get a chance as well in time, if he’s good enough. We’ve had high hopes for many players in the past and few have worked out. Rashford so far is pretty much the only academy graduate in over 10 years who’s made the grade. Why put all this pressure on the lad?
26.) 01 Sep 2023 19:31:34
Je888 how old is Fernandez? You say can’t chuck young players in without bedding them in could destroy there confidence, yep correct, but don’t the same then apply to our new striker, who is only 20 and will have more eyes on him then any full back but we are expecting him to go straight and and be our Number 9. Why don’t same rules apply to him then as what you pointed out?
Please I’m curiuos.
27.) 02 Sep 2023 09:57:37
Why do some of you think he won't get a chance?
With Shaw and Malcia out for a few months, it would be uuter stupidity to rely entirely on Fernandez. What if he got injured? Or just couldn't handle the workload or pressure of playing nearly every game?
With Reguillon, we can give Fernandez chances and playing time, but without being totally reliant on him. Dalot isn't great on the left, and we need him for cover on the right too, so only having him and Fernandez for left back for 3 months or more wouldn't be smart.
I think Reguillon might do better than some of you think, too. If AWB plays on the right, he is well suited for staying back to form a back three when Reguillon pushes forward, giving us width when Rashford comes inside.
Reguillon may not be who anyone, fan or management, would have preferred, but I think he'll do a decent job for a few months.
04 Jul 2023 16:28:15
Could all be fake news again (we have been here before) but there are strong rumours that the sale could be hours away and the Glazers are ready to sign off on it.
Rio was also hinting yesterday that today was a key date.
Lets hope this is true and we can finally move forward without the Glazers assuming it is the Qatari bid.
1.) 04 Jul 2023 16:44:53
The sale has been hours away since March ?.
2.) 04 Jul 2023 16:46:09
This has come from Al Raya a newspaper in Doha, not sure how reliable anyone knows this paper is. As you say been here before so will believe it when I see see it, after all it’s Independence Day in America whether that would have any affect on any announcement I don’t know.
3.) 04 Jul 2023 16:46:47
Sure he said the same weeks ago too ?.
It may happen, but if I were a gambling man….
4.) 04 Jul 2023 17:00:34
I think people are jumping to conclusions because I think if a business is sold on the New York stock exchange, it has to close and as it’s Independence Day it’s closed today…. I have no idea if this is true just what I’ve read/ heard.
5.) 04 Jul 2023 17:02:06
The poignancy of Independence Day.
6.) 04 Jul 2023 17:36:57
Rio has shown himself to be very unreliable on the sale process. Not sure why he is burning any rep he has on something he quite clearly has zero inside track on. He is announcing "deal done" every few days, presume hid is going for the stopped clock approach to being right.
7.) 04 Jul 2023 18:16:00
Let’s hope uniteds Independence Day isn’t too far away ?.
8.) 04 Jul 2023 19:10:19
Its been around 1200 hours since Rio last said it was hours away so I suppose he s not completely wrong.
9.) 04 Jul 2023 19:21:22
I'm 1 million percent sure Rio is on the money.
10.) 04 Jul 2023 19:48:11
As we say with transfers, until they are holding a scarf above their head at Old Trafford, then it is just a rumour.
11.) 04 Jul 2023 20:31:28
If true, a sad day for Manchester United and football in general …., but still I guess we’ll get to buy lots of shiny new toys.
12.) 04 Jul 2023 21:10:31
The only announcement we will hear, is one that days the Glazers are staying.
13.) 04 Jul 2023 22:24:05
I got a bit emotional/ ranty in a reply that wasn't put up apologies to the eds, but I'm with hatter I think there here to stay.
14.) 04 Jul 2023 22:28:33
I doubt we'll be getting the public announcement on July 4th, and tomorrow I'm starting a trip to Idaho for ten days, so they'll have to wait until I'm back.
23 Jun 2023 10:42:59
Rumours that we are talking with the agents of Onana with potential bid to Inter next week. If this is true we will be getting a quality keeper more in line with how EtH wants the team to play, he was exceptional in the Champions League final and knows EtH from his Ajax days.
If he comes in I think it will have a knock on effect as to who will play at RB, he will play as a sweeper keeper and will need players comfortable on the ball in front of him and we have that with Varane, Martinez, Shaw. However on the right we will need to play Dalot to ensure we have that comfort across the back line.
AWB will have game time but feel he will be back up next year with the Defence playing a higher line and full backs expected to push forward.
Exciting signing if it goes through.
1.) 23 Jun 2023 11:12:58
I'm not so sure, AWB seems to finally be progressing in his attacking and posession play under ETH's coaching. IF he can keep up this improvement, I think he could become a really good all-rounder RB, with Dalot relegated to backup.
Obviously, there are no guarantees he will keep improving, but it's worth keeping in mind.
2.) 23 Jun 2023 12:04:14
I'd love Onana. He's the keeper that we should be pursuing over all others. He'd allow us to move our line up and press more effectively higher up the pitch.
3.) 23 Jun 2023 12:29:13
Thorme, Definitely think AWB has improved massively under EtH, I am still not convinced from a technical point of view if we are looking to play from the back.
4.) 23 Jun 2023 13:42:35
Not convinced about AWB either. Technically he isn’t good enough, simple.
5.) 23 Jun 2023 16:24:16
AWB is an outstanding one on one defender, but the forwards get really poor service when AWB is playing. He is not the answer to the RB problem.
6.) 23 Jun 2023 17:03:07
He’ll end up at West Ham too - if we could actually sell players.
7.) 23 Jun 2023 18:17:57
Awb is awful on the ball so much so other teams literally don’t mark him and encourage him to have the ball, which causes us issues in other areas then!
8.) 23 Jun 2023 22:41:41
I've been saying for years awb should be a cb. If he's the last man your not beating him.
22 May 2023 12:02:39
Rumours this morning of Forrest being interested in taking Henderson permanently now they have secured survival.
£30m mentioned and happy to give him the wages he wants. if this is true would be a great start to the summer window.
Do they want Maguire on a double deal!
1.) 22 May 2023 13:50:24
Funnily enough, I don't think they survive if Henderson stays fit. Navas was a huge upgrade on him and maybe a coincidence but their results improved when Navas came in.
£30 million for Uniteds number 1 and England's best keeper? Should be £60 million.
2.) 22 May 2023 14:31:27
£30m plus free p&p - I'll deliver him personally.
Agree that Navas was an upgrade. Bet he needed a fair whack in terms of wages to be convinced to go there though, or just a whack on the head!
3.) 22 May 2023 14:33:53
I agree Mumbles. Navas has been superb and won Forest a lot of points this season.
4.) 22 May 2023 21:43:10
Got a lot of confidence in himself which is good for a keeper but he is no where near as good as he thinks he is.
5.) 22 May 2023 22:19:34
Good move for both parties concerned. Navas is getting on and can’t see him wanting to stick around at Forest much longer.
6.) 24 May 2023 06:40:57
Depends if Cooper stays, rumours they are also interested in Kelleher. Think Navas said he wants to finish his career at Club America, but he has a year left on his contract at PSG, so maybe he fancies his chances with their new manager, Jose.
29 Nov 2022 16:37:42
With the upheavel that seems to have suddenly appeared at Juventus do we have any interest in Vlahovic. I think we looked prior to his move last January and he seems to be a good target man.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 29 Nov 2022 18:13:32
Shame think he is really suited to English style of football.
{Ed002's Note - They are not going to be selling off the entire team.}
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09 Nov 2023 09:51:56
Dissapointing result against Copenhagen, our inability to adapt, individual errors and some iffy refereeing/ VAR decisions.
However, I do thing we saw some promise for going forward (hopefully not a false dawn), really good first 30 mins, good 20 mins in second half when we settled down.
I think the front 4 of Garnacho, Rashford, Hojlund and Fernandes should start the Luton game and also post international break. We need some consistency, give them a chance to build as a unit.
With Cassimero out and McTominy currently in favour I would hope that Amrabat gets a run of games with alongside him.
Varane now has a chance to get some game time with Evans possibly out, unfortunately this moves Maguire to the left side which I think has been identified as part of his problem (even though he has played there most of his time) .
Lets get at Luton, and come out of the international break fighting. We are still not out of the CL. just got to win next 2 games!
1.) 09 Nov 2023 11:40:00
I quite like the idea of Rashford on the right. Takes away the temptation to keep cutting inside and shooting when on the left. He delivers a good cross as well from the right which will be great for Hoijlund. Garnacho isn't concerned about going on the outside when playing on the left either so isn't as predictable.
2.) 09 Nov 2023 12:51:05
So we paid £60m for a bench player in Mount?
3.) 09 Nov 2023 13:22:31
I’m even worried about Ganarcho attitude if I’m honest, he is not kicking on and the childish attitude is not helping A 17 year old come on for Danes he played like a 28 year old.
Arambat is woeful and miles out of his league, Mount can’t even get in a useless team So many problems
When we used to train we used to train losing a man or 2 to a red, this team don’t even look like it trains with 11, there is a severe problem here with the coaching ETH comes into that too what does he do on the training pitch, I don’t buy these excuses of injuries or everything against us, nobody in that team got a clue what they are supposed to be doing or how to do it
Remember this is little Copenhagen, and at end of day we got a pen that was not even a pen but forgetting all that this is a poor team poorly coached poorly managed it’s going nowhere fast in fact Luton could be the final nail in the coffin!
McLaren is yesteryear too he not exactly being discounted from this shambles.
I heard ETH say we played well for 10 mins well the game now is 100 mins not 10
SHOCKING.
4.) 09 Nov 2023 13:40:49
I think Garnacho and Mctominay are better as subs against tired legs. Varane does not look great and the whole defence fall to pieces under any pressure. At the minute Maguire actually looks our best defender. The midfield keep giving the ball away, especially Bruno. Copenhagen are no better than celtic and looking good for 30 minutes is nothing to be optimistic about.
5.) 09 Nov 2023 14:31:30
Rangered
You are posting so much non sense and making things up.
6.) 09 Nov 2023 15:43:46
It's a brave manager who, a goal down with ten minutes to go, takes off his only striker and replaces him with Mason Mount.
7.) 09 Nov 2023 16:19:27
Hojlund was shattered. He spent 60 minutes pressing from the front and being our only attacking outlet. Literally going from chasing and harrying to turning and sprinting to get in behind. Then when it doesn't get through to him turning back around and chasing the ball down.
We needed more energy and someone who could press and defend. It was no slight on Hojlund who was excellent last night. Just a case of his race had been run. Also with Rashford now banned for the next must win UCL game we will rely on Hojlund all the more. We need to protect him and keep him well looked after.
8.) 10 Nov 2023 01:45:51
Ahmad,
It’s him again mate, just ignore it, it will get blocked soon.
02 Oct 2023 10:58:01
With the current injuries to our defensive unit especially at FB and no sign of anyone being available this side of the international break I think we should consider switching formations.
I think a back 3 of Lindelof, Varane, Maguire (I know! ) currently gives us the best balance and would allow Amrabat to move alongside Casimero. Maguire plays his best in a back 3, Lindelof has covered RB so would be comfortable that side with Varane being the conductor.
Amrabats energy will help cover up and down the pitch.
I would also suggest Mount on the right side with his energy to help back whilst also getting forward.
Martial alongside Hojlund up front would bring 2 players who are happy with the ball at feet, working off each other and Fenandes behind. I would also be tempted to go Garnacho on the left and let Rashford sit for a bit.
Injuries are hitting us, but this is where EtH needs to show his adaptability and work with what we have.
1.) 02 Oct 2023 11:27:42
Just so I'm clear, you want Mount and Garnacho as wing backs?
2.) 02 Oct 2023 11:52:00
This doesn't solve the LB issue, although I feel we should be playing players in their best positions ie Amrabat in the middle. I'd rather give a youth a game than force Amrabat out there - Palace targeted him and he was lucky not to concede a pen.
3.) 02 Oct 2023 12:18:53
We are already looking clueless.
Changing the system would make us even worse.
My cents here, play Dalot at LB, he is very comfortable there. That leaves us with the only choice of Lindelof at RB who should be okay imo, he got skinned by joao felix, who's actually a very good player. No shame in that.
4.) 02 Oct 2023 13:51:34
AJH - I get your point. Personally think Mount has it in him to fill that role or we go with Dalot.
Not sure I quite agree that a change of system would be worse than being clueless.
To be fair, I am not necessarily a tactical special-ist. and have previously quite liked a back 3 option but get that it is not everyones cup of tea. With our current defensive issues, I think it may be our best option. but just an opinion.
5.) 02 Oct 2023 14:47:47
I think it can work if you have full backs that know how to attack. Trying to use forwards to defend is where it likely comes unstuck.
6.) 02 Oct 2023 21:04:56
Garnacho will be a disaster at left wing back.
The manager needs to stick to his principles.
It’s one thing having to play Amrabat at LB because we have no one else, it’s another thing entirely to change formation and play half of the team out of position.
7.) 03 Oct 2023 04:17:09
Ambrabat is not a left back and will get eaten alive once he comes up against a proper right winger. He is being played there because we are desperately short of options.
Read he has very poor game against palace and it only get harder with some of the games coming up and right wing players he will need to play against.
Lindelof playing right wing and Dalot left is not a great solution imo as you take your natural right back and play him out of position and lindelof is slow and his passing range is as good as a 12 year old playing as a right back. I am sure his passing stats are high but that's because he never eve tries to pass forward and its sideways or backwards.
8.) 03 Oct 2023 07:35:28
Ahmad that is the best option. Dalot at Lb is not unnatural, he is very comfortable there. He played a lot as a LWB for AC Milan.
9.) 03 Oct 2023 09:39:04
Can’t believe we’re actually in this position trying to fit square pegs in round holes. The injuries are a joke as I’ve highlighted on other posts.
But so is the whole academy and feeder system in my opinion. I want to know if they actually are trying to develop players for the first team or not, because from what I can see is all they do is bring on attacking wide players (Mainoo an exception) . Does anybody actually think that the first team might need a full back or a centre half?
City get an injury crisis in any position and in steps some young lad from the under 21’s who nobody has heard of and he’s an absolute world beater! We get a few injuries at centre half and we have a word with one of our employees whose husband happens to be Jonny Evans! It’s pub league stuff.
10.) 03 Oct 2023 11:04:01
I thought Dalot was actually one of the better players at LB in earlier games this season. Not sold on Lindelof at RB, but I'd much rather see those in these positions than persevere with Amrabat, who we've been heralding as our midfield saviour for months, or start messing around with the likes of Mount / Garnacho as roving fullbacks.
11.) 03 Oct 2023 11:34:59
Fireman
I know we lost a young CB to them a couple of weeks ago but can't recall his name. By the looks of it we don't have anyone good enough from the academy to come in atm but I don't follow the academy and could be wrong.
If you are referring to the Norwegian kid Bobb. He is one of the most highly touted youngsters coming out of any academy in the country. I think he has been their academy player of the year 2 years in a row.
City buy a defender every year and even sold someone like laporte. Their entire back 4 and most of the second string are players they have bought.
Their injury crisis is different to ours. Debruyne being out gives Alvarez and Foden more starts and that how good that squad is.
Rodri is hardest player to replace and they struggle without him but otherwise plenty of quality/ debth in very other position.
12.) 03 Oct 2023 11:56:09
Spenno
Dalot is a very good player and had an excellent game against arsenal and Saka at RB and can play there. Lindelof playing at RB is the issue, offensively he offers zero.
03 Sep 2023 21:29:05
Sancho could be next out the door with the statements tonight.
Mot sure what is happening with training but when a manager gives a player time away from the squad last year, appears to have tried to get the best out of him. to get to the point of dropping him for a big game you have to think it could be over.
1.) 03 Sep 2023 21:34:42
If eth keeps alienating players, its him who might be the next out.
2.) 03 Sep 2023 21:34:48
Sancho can’t take the criticism instead wants to cry on social media
Gone are the days where players use it as motivation
Not like he’s been good enough for the last 3 managers anyway
Bout time the managers stopped sugar coating these babies, if they don’t like it, there’s the door.
3.) 03 Sep 2023 21:40:18
Why do it now the day after the windw has closed? He’s been less than useless at Utd. Sell him and move on. Maybe a Saudi club will come for him
Utd were pathetic tonight by the way. - as soon as the clock struck 90’ we all knew they’d cave in. We all knew it.
They’ll be those here who will sway the Garnacho “goal” should have stood but I thought they were truly pathetic tonight. Much like the club’s stature.
4.) 03 Sep 2023 21:44:22
Another modern day player who thinks he’s far better than he actually is
Been here over 2 years and done next to zippo
£375,000 a week doesn’t get you much these days
Ship him out along with Maguire McTominay Martial and Anthony
We just go from one disaster to another
Until the leeches are gone nothing will change I’m afraid to say
Roll on 2025 when they hope to sell for 10 billion
Are they that deluded and think anyone’s going to pay 10 billion.
5.) 03 Sep 2023 21:57:33
Apparently Rashford like the post.
6.) 03 Sep 2023 22:10:26
EtH's has wanted rid all summer, but if he was going to say this about one of his players, then why not a month ago.
McTominay and Sancho were always for sale, but window is closed now. As I said earlier you have to reintegrate them.
Separate note, why didn't Evans go down when being held. Does not pay to be honest in those situations, refs only care when they are forced to.
7.) 03 Sep 2023 22:12:21
An account appearing to be Garnachos brother said on 18th august.
“If you knew what i do, you would know why who starts and who doesn’t”.
8.) 03 Sep 2023 22:14:10
FZZZZ
not true. looked at rashford account. People just stirring things.
9.) 03 Sep 2023 22:24:13
UA remember when Jose wanted pogba martial etc gone and the club said no. and I’m the end the manager was the one to go
He should earn his 375k a week wage instead of moaning and be motivated he’s been a flop and an expensive one at that
We go down that route again and we’re back at the players having the power
Players come and go if he’s not doing what the manager asks he doesn’t deserve to play.
10.) 03 Sep 2023 22:28:36
UA what should he do then just allow him to not meet the standards he sets in training?
What’s wrong with managers coming out and saying it how it is about why players are left out?
If he’s not performing say it, he’s the manger if he doesn’t like it then leave.
We’ve had 7 or 8 seasons of players doing what they like and getting away with stealing a living
Sancho is another on the long list of average cry babies that don’t have the motivation to do what’s asked.
11.) 03 Sep 2023 22:30:48
All his social media acc’s?
12.) 03 Sep 2023 22:32:43
Utd weren't good but the goal was never offside, a ridiculous var decision that's only given against united plain and simple. given city's goal yesterday makes it even more bent as.
13.) 03 Sep 2023 22:35:56
Fzzz stop stirring up discord with your nonsense Twitter rumours.
14.) 03 Sep 2023 22:44:24
Sancho was the second to last major mistake of the Woodward era. After an underwhelming season in the Bundesliga we decided to cough up £80m and £375k a week making him the highest paid player at United, behind de Gea - who was far and away the highest paid goalie in the world - and subsequently behind Ronaldo who was the last major error. Sancho has never ever looked remotely like an £80m player. He's been given time off to sort his mental state out, but apparently it hasn't worked. He seems to be one of those players who peaked early, started to believe his own press, and then when the pressure was on, crumbled.
There's beginning to be a lot of competition for those forward spots and part of the reason is that Sancho cannot be relied upon to hold down a place, so we had to try and upgrade. In other words, Sancho is his own worst enemy. Hard to believe he's costing us a total of £35m a year. Boy, were we suckered.
We lost today, but ETH had the team set up just right. Considering our injuries we did quite well and with a bit of luck could have easily won the game. Can anyone say that Sancho would have added anything positive to the side? The underlying reason ETH doesn't play him is that he can't or won't hack it. He doesn't trust him and quite rightly so, he's done little to earn it. End of story. I can see him going the way of Lingard.
15.) 03 Sep 2023 22:53:11
I think it reflects very poorly on Sancho personally.
Let's be honest he struggled under both Ole and Ralf, he has been a shadow of the player he was at Dortmund.
EtH came in and realised Sancho needed help, he sent him the the Netherlands, probably calling in more than a few favours, to try and give Sancho the help and support he needed to be able to get back to his best.
If after that the manager doesn't feel that the player is working hard enough in training then the player deserves to be called out. The manager has clearly and publicly tried the supportive approach to get the best out of the player and clearly that support has fallen on deaf ears.
So after trying the carrot to no avail the only option left is the stick.
Sancho instead of listening to what is being said and thinking what can he do to change that situation. He is just kicking out. Trying to shift blame, and shirk responsibility for his actions and his performances.
It's clear now why City didn't fight to keep him, he might have a lot of talent, but he had the mental fortitude and resilience of wet paper towel. Without that he will never reach his undoubted potential. The kid just doesn't have the stones to put in the hard yards.
16.) 03 Sep 2023 23:40:47
Sancho has had multiple managers question his professionalism.
17.) 04 Sep 2023 00:28:17
Well that’s his United career over. If results and performances don’t pick up soon though I can see ETH following him out the door. The club backed him when this happened with Ronaldo, but if this keeps happening and we keep playing the way we have been, it’s difficult to see the owner putting up with him alienating multi-million dollar assets for too much longer.
Sancho should never have spoken out publicly, though it’s difficult not to agree with him when the likes of Anthony and Martial are chosen week in week out despite offering next to nothing on the pitch. Heck, given that ETH publicly called his professionalism into question, one could maybe argue that he has a right to respond, even if doing so was ill-advised.
We should never have let ETH push RR out the door. Having him in a DoF-like role would have helped the club move forward, but instead, if ETH does end up leaving, we’re right back to square one, having blown a few hundred million more up the wall. Sadly, however, our owners just don’t have a clue.
18.) 04 Sep 2023 00:28:55
Back the manager. This team has a serious weakness mentality. We need to back this guy to sort it out.
I'm sure if sancho takes the necessary steps he will reintegrate and everyone will move forward. Eth rules approach is the best way to deal with these jokers.
The hand he has been dealt with the failings of this summer window he has a free hit in my book again this season.
We need our back office to get some of these players out of the door and bring in the players he needs to play his style.
When a manager player dispute starts, the players need to know that the manager is the boss and they need to follow he way or step aside. Very simple.
All this rumour mill nonsense is usually leaked from the players side to exert pressure on the manager. I think the fans need to back the manager and let him rip out the guts of the old fragile rubbish from before and maybe then we can have a team that represents us on the pitch.
19.) 04 Sep 2023 01:03:05
I thought with 7 or 8 ETH players in, the culture might change, but it looks like until he fills every position with his own men, we're still going to have that flakey mindset.
20.) 04 Sep 2023 03:17:58
Exactly Nou. And everyone saying anthony is failing, he was very good today. Yes he needs to develop a better end product, I'm sure he is working on it and hopefully with hojland actually moving upfront we might see some improvement. His work rate was excellent today. He was very good protecting his FB against an excellent winger and was at times our only only outball and often double teamed by arsenal.
Sancho might have a bit of end product, but he is very hot and cold on work rate and passion. EtH made the right choice picking Anthony ahead of sancho away at arsenal, and if that led sancho to sulk this week then I am 100% behind ten hag. And if sancho wants to swan off to saudi and we get a bag of money for him I don't think many utd fans would be too upset.
21.) 04 Sep 2023 04:40:41
@East Stand Nick - I thought Garnacho’s goal should if stood, and it was another case of an unreasonable VAR decision, but to imply like these only go against United - when your club has had more luck than any other (with perceptions the exception of City) regarding VAR decisions - is living in dreamland.
22.) 04 Sep 2023 04:53:38
Not sure I agree with that, Dodgy.
I got the whole situation with Ronaldo. Ten Haag wanted to make a point that he was in charge and kept Ronaldo at the club so that he could assert his dominance and show the world (and more importantly, the players) that nobody - not even one of the greatest players in the world - was bigger than the manager. However, this situation with Sancho is different and so very avoidable.
I’m sure some will argue that he is just telling the truth, but for me, that’s a load of nonsense. Players like Martial and Antony offer so much less than Sancho does, so why single Sancho out for criticism? Why drop him from the match day squad while continuing to play the others? Even if he did think that Sancho was training badly, why announce it so publicly? What does anybody gain from that?
As for Ten Haag needing to replace the entire first team, a good manager is able to get a tune out of the players they have at their disposal. If he can’t change the mindset of a handful of players after more than a full a season in charge, perhaps he has no business managing a club like Manchester United.
Perhaps if we were playing good football things would be different, but despite hundreds of millions being spent on players over the past 12 months, we’re still struggling to create chances, unable to dominate games, and relying on moments of individual brilliance rather than playing as a cohesive unit. These are the things that Ten Haag should be focusing on, not trying to publicly humiliate and belittle a £70m+ asset.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the likes of Rashford and Shaw do side with Sancho on this issue, creating divisions in the squad and making it even more difficult to turn things around. The board may have backed Ten Haag during the Ronaldo incident, but if more players start to turn on him I don’t think they’ll hesitate to get rid of him, especially with performances being the way that they are. Our away from is atrocious and our performances at home aren’t that much better, even if the results paint a nicer picture.
23.) 04 Sep 2023 05:27:05
What sort of manager even says his player not trained properly …… you all moaned when Jose tried that tactic, but now it’s `ten the love child it’s the player at fault! You all want it both ways.
That’s in house stuff and should be treated as suvch, but Ten been trying to deflect anything his fault for a while now, keeps saying the players did not do what we ask them…. Bruno even hit back yesterday if you listen to his interview saying “we done everything the manager/ coaches ask today”
The ripples are circling that’s for sure, waves next, then wave goodbye to Ten, which will happen if takeover happens anyway!
24.) 04 Sep 2023 05:58:47
Maybe your dream of ole coming back will come true Trafford, he qualifies as being nice and friendly, nothing else needed on his cv.
25.) 04 Sep 2023 06:32:50
I seem to remember Pep publicly saying his players lacked guts earlier this year, then they went on to win the treble.
The common tread in the lack of performances isn't the manager, its the players. They need to look at themselves and honestly decide do they want to win, or are they happy to just pick up the money each week.
For the last few years our big issue has been the lack of goals, but our defence was solid so it gave us half a chance in games, now our defence seems brittle we are struggling again.
26.) 04 Sep 2023 06:34:15
What have I missed? Apparently some are saying ETH is out of order? He was asked a question and answered it honestly! Sancho another player stealing a living and ETH is not the first manager to question his application! Why on earth he thinks he should respond on social media god knows but it doesn’t end well and I’ll be delighted if we can get another over paid, over hyped player out the door over next twelve months!
27.) 04 Sep 2023 07:24:08
ETH is going nowhere, even with a takeover he’s the right man for the job. Anyone who’s watched Sancho play can see his attitude and application is awful.
28.) 04 Sep 2023 08:12:11
Same goes for EtH, GTS. He hasn't coached this lot one bit and his tactics are awful. Its been a year and how long before we can say that EtH isn't as good as he has been made out. Honestly i haven't seen much difference in the style of play. Its still the same sideways lethargic.
29.) 04 Sep 2023 08:34:14
Sancho has added nothing to this club and it shows on the pitch. You can tell the young weak minded in here from a mile off because they are the same and sticking up for him. He’s a name player, a youtube player, highlights reel. Eventhough you would struggle to see them from his time at Utd.
I can see why people backed Ronaldo, because he's done something in the game to warrant a big say, but to back a waster like Sancho that couldn't lace Ronaldos boots is a joke. He’s picking up 350k a week to do nothing.
How many of these time wasting money sapping players are we going to buy before we start doing proper back ground checks again. Sancho has previous, Pep hinted he was mentally weak. And Dortmund had a problem with his effort.
We been scammed again 80m toilet that doesn’t flush.
30.) 04 Sep 2023 09:22:51
Trafford Jose was right though, and no one listened.
And in the end Jose was the one to leave while some of these players that have thrown previous managers under the bus are still here
How many managers have had these players and all had the same issue?
When do we learn that the issue isn’t the managers and it’s a set group of players that are still in the club who have played under ralf, under ole even under Jose
The rebuild isn’t complete the foundations are there but there is still major work to be done
4 games in and people are panicking already again
Ten hag is the manager and if players done like what he’s asking find another club.
31.) 04 Sep 2023 09:32:11
Jose wanted rid of Martial 6 years ago and we are still stuck (literally a player that doesn’t move) with him stinking the place out. Let’s not look at Jose like he was this big issue and was a terrible manager, he won us a Europa League and
League Cup yet people still question him and say stuff about him whilst defending the dross he had to put up with. Pogba and Martial, and if Sancho was here when he was he would have also fallen into that category of lazy prima donnas.
32.) 04 Sep 2023 14:48:40
East Stand Nick when I watched the match I thought Garnacho was level, certainly it looked very close - never saw the lines etc which was odd, but no harm bud every team loses goals to that, not just Utd - and on the back of Onana and Rashford in the last couple of games you've actually done alright out of the VAR calls so far
However, that is my major gripe with the offside aspect of VAR. I mean, VAR is supposed to get involved with the 'clear and obvious' - if you're busting out lines to see if someone's big toe is 3mm offside then it's hardly clear or obvious is it? I mean come on, the like of that Garnacho one looked close on TV, so pause it, look at the still and if he's off, he's off, it should be, well bloody obvious shouldn't it? If it's tough to tell then the decision just goes with the linesman - honestly not that difficult and sorted in about 10-30 seconds, not the 3-5 mins it usually takes!
As for Sancho, no harm but yous vastly overpaid for him and gave him a ridiculously huge contract. He has done nothing really since he has arrived and it really looks like ETH tried to work with him, sending him to Holland etc - for Sancho to come out publicly like that though is wild. ETH didn't even say anything really bad against him. I swear, players these days just sulk and cry to social media - what happened to just taking the manager's comments on the chin and knuckling down and working harder in training?
33.) 04 Sep 2023 19:27:10
No need to tell me that, I agreed with Jose 100% even with his Shaw remark and still do, but most on here we’re barracking Jose at the time, I still say Jose best manager we had in last 10 years he won more the Ten with a much worse team, you all slated him because he lived in an hotel, how sad is that, in fact I would say it’s much better to live in a suite in an hotel then going home to a empty house! But no you lot would not have it! And for the record I would not want ole nowhere near being a club manager of under 5s, but whatever spin you try to -it on it, Ten as shown naivety big time, he just devalued the clubs asset in one sentence, that’s stupidity. Just say stock answer slight injury, then deal with it internally or get rid, go to board say I go or Sancho goes, but maybe he scared of the answer!
24 Aug 2023 22:21:50
Shaw now out for the next few weeks at least. Seems to be a lot of injuries across the PL so early in the season
Interesting to see if EtH goes with Dalot or Fernandes as replacement. or tries back 3.
1.) 24 Aug 2023 23:06:39
We do have decent defensive cover imo.
Dalot and Alvaro can play Lb. Even martinez can if there is no one available.
We already have lindelof, maguire and evans for backup CB role.
But I fully expect Dalot to start at Lb.
2.) 24 Aug 2023 23:43:55
I know a lot of people think the team looks unfit. To me no one looks like they are carrying extra weight and if anything most of the players look slimmer. I think we are leggy and may be overtraining and these injuries are maybe the result of pretty short off season and hectic pre season schedule.
3.) 24 Aug 2023 23:49:20
I think thisbis how we will emd up playing under Ten Hag. The issue is we don't have a player to play alongside Cas at the botton of the box. Martinez could do so and is our best option but we don't have good enough defneders across the back without him esoecially on the keft of Varane.
Varane also needs to play himself into condition to play one on one with a nine.
The system ideally suits Mount and Fernandes though.
I think we emd uo playing it because its in Ten Hags education in footbalking terms and offers thesolutio Ten Hag has alread tried in Shaw as inverted which Shaw has already proven he can't play.
It also negates our RB issue. We do need a stronger Right sided CB ideally as well.
4.) 25 Aug 2023 08:52:51
Ahmed, I think the players aren't in the right physical condition. Why? I'm not sure. But they seem to be lacking stamina and slow to react.
I read somewhere that only 4 players played an entire 90 minutes across all our pre-season games. If true then I would suggest that is why our players are running out of steam in the second half of games.
Why EtH has taken this approach to pre-season I can't say for certain.
17 Jul 2023 07:52:14
Story's circulating that our transfer budget is closer to £150/ 170m to allow EtH to make the essential transfers he has identified.
If that is the case then Mount, Onana and Hojlund can be done within that and hopefully for early part of the tour.
All other buys would be based on sales which I expect us to focus on. With all the players mooted we could be looking at another £100m+ In sales for a second striker, midfielder and hopefully central defender.
1.) 17 Jul 2023 10:08:00
With some good sales (hardly ever happens with us) I still think we will make a bit of a run at kane if he’s still on the market.
2.) 17 Jul 2023 11:04:52
We need to exploit the Saudi market for players like Fred, Telles, Martial, Bailly (if they’ll go and there is interest), get Maguire off the books domestically or to Italy, and we’ll be in a good place to make some moves.
3.) 17 Jul 2023 12:16:56
Eric the Saudis are rich not stupid ?.
4.) 17 Jul 2023 14:04:30
dannyc
some of the deals like liv golf is stupid money thrown at bang average players.
5.) 17 Jul 2023 16:15:39
dannyc, not stupid eh, £40m for Fabinho, plus mammoth wages, rumoured to be close to £700,000 per week on a 3 year contract that is a total 3 year cost of £145m. This for someone whose performance levels fell of a cliff last season.
Don't see that as the sensible deal of the season.
6.) 17 Jul 2023 20:17:08
I really think we need to get past Kane tbh, I just don’t think we’ll succumb to Levy’s demands, and quite rightly. He really would cut his nose off to spite his face.
7.) 17 Jul 2023 20:32:19
Fabinho is better than all of those players mentioned except Fred. Martial can't stay fit, telles isn't very good and baillys body is made from crumble topping. Nobody is paying top dollar for any of them except Fred we could get a few quid for.
8.) 17 Jul 2023 22:34:38
Fabinho may be better than Telles and Bailly, but that does not in any way, or form, mean that spending £145,000,000 over a 3 year period for him is anything other than an act of gargantuan stupidity.
29 Nov 2023 09:27:28
Will be interesting to see how the new hierachy (including some of the Glazers) view the manager position going forward past this year. Do they want a full clean house and reset with a new manager, do they view EtH position as not being fully supported and given the right structure round him so give him another couple of years.
Personally think the latter should be the case but he must be encouraged to find the identity and be provided the players for that identity.
If they make the change it will be interesting who they look towards, an older head like Ancheloti or a young up and coming manager. Aside from the Liverpool connections Alonso looks good at Leverkusen but I expect him to be a future manager for his old Liverpool/ Real/ Bayern teams.
21 Nov 2023 13:50:19
I would expect they will review the whole structure if it has not already been done as part of the due dilligance. It could be that the role that people have like Fletcher just does not exist in the new structure and potentially new roles created.
With Arnold confirmed gone and Murtaugh certain to follow there will be a new direction, hopefully it will lead us in the right direction for the future.
17 Nov 2023 09:59:18
Regardless of everyones preferences on the sale if Blanc and Mitchell do come in it will be the most positive move that the club has made in years.
Hopefully it will lead to a change in approach to the transfer market with a cohesive long term approach rather than short termism.
Lets hope the rumours come to fruition.
10 Nov 2023 11:34:10
It feels like we need to all get our head around the Ratcliffe minority stake and the Glazers being around for a while yet. let's hope they have structured a future phasing out over the coming years whilst taking a hands on role during this period.
Personally I will be excited if he brings the right people in, talk of Jean Claude Blanc and Paul Mitchell suggest that he is looking at experienced people. If this is the case I would expect a change in direction for future transfer windows.
This along with investment in the infrastructure that is rumoured is all a good start and will offset the potential negativity from the Glazers remaining.
14 Oct 2023 22:34:34
If stories are true and it is Sir Jim then hopefully the club gives some clarity as to what this means in the short and long term. With all the silence the fans deserve to be informed.
Will he have any control immediately, will he look to bring in his own sporting people. Will funds be made available, what is the plan for the stadium, clearing of the debt. Most importantly what is the commitment for the Glazers full departure, 2/ 3/ 4 years etc.
29 Nov 2023 09:33:10
Based on EtH's comments about missing a right winger (and I think he means one that cuts in as he seems to like) we will see Antony playing tonight unless he is still carrying his injury.
Hopefully Hojlund is fit to start, if not on the bench with Martial given another game.
29 Nov 2023 09:30:33
Ahmed I am so lost on the hand ball rule and decisions being made, based on some previous ones I can see why it got given. do I agree with it absolutely not but these are being given.
Agreed that we need a game devoid of any refereeing controversy and let's see how we do. I would not be surprised if we got a 2-1 win, not pretty but with some fight.
Hoping that Mainoo gets another game as he adds tempo, composure and would be good for his development.
03 Nov 2023 15:12:07
I agree Spenno. With some players back I think these 3 games and the international break could provide a different feel around the team.
I think EtH has it in him to adapt and get a tune out of the players, let's hope we see it.
16 Oct 2023 19:26:10
We have to see what is released post Thursday's board meeting assuming this is just to ratify the deal.
SJR will need to quickly set out his plans otherwise the club and fans could see this get toxic very quickly (more so than it currently is) .
I would assume that there will be written agreements that will give him and his team control of running the football side of things (I am sure there will be certain things like budgets that the Glazers will need to sign off on but they will want this side to be successful to grow the value of the club) . All this whilst the Glazer side and potentially the likes of Richard Arnold concentrate on the commercial non footballing side of the business to grow that.
For me I want to hear about the plans for the debt (approaching £1bn), the ground and training facilities. Phased removal of trhe Glazers and timetable. What support will be offered to the current management team to bring players in in January and next summer. Will there be a connection between us and the other clubs owned by SJR as part of a sporting structure like the Red Bull teams.
As a fan base we need communication, that has been lacking during the Glazer ownership.
12 Oct 2023 09:52:03
The club has stagnated for years now and the ground is just a visual representation of this. Hopefully we will see movement on the sale and whoever takes over gives us a clear view of how this will be resolved (new statium or major development) .
I am hopeful that a lot is going on behind the scenes to get this close to completion and we will get an announcement soon. Is the delay in releasing the financial reports (compared to when usually released) a sign of this? Expectation is that we will report a healthy revenue return I am not sure the overall picture will be positive with the debt, spending etc.
{Ed002's Note - There is no "nearly done" scenario.}