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18 Jul 2024 16:12:56
Now that we are looking at younger players with the potential to improve us now and then get better as a team, does anyone think Adam Wharton could be the player we look for at CM if we sell Casemiro etc? Looked good at Palace and has been mentioned previously. Apparently Ashworth was keen during his time at Newcastle.
Him and Mainoo in CM for United and England ??.
{Ed002's Note - Wharton is not moving this summer. Another side has already held discussions.}
1.) 18 Jul 2024 16:44:54
Fair enough, he looks a decent prospect.
Thank you we will wait and see what happens then.
2.) 18 Jul 2024 20:21:25
He'll be part of the post-Pep City next summer.
3.) 18 Jul 2024 21:32:36
What and play in the National League Spenno? I think he’s better than that ??.
4.) 18 Jul 2024 22:20:12
If there’s a joke in there it soared way over my head.
5.) 19 Jul 2024 11:27:41
Wharton looks a real gem, and I wonder whether United might have made a move for him in January if the INEOS purchase happened much quicker.
Personally I really like how Palace have started under Glasner, and I think Wharton might be best placed to stay at Palace for at least another season or two. We've seen how highly talented young players can have a break out six months in the EPL only to struggle a little the following season (Evan Ferguson) . That's pretty normal for young players, they catch opposition by surprise initially, but once they know what to expect they deal with them better. While for the young player they tend to thrive doing what they've done best, but once the opposition figures them out they need to round out their game to become effective again. They can also struggle with higher expectations in their second season, so might have some growing up to do mentally to deal with playing at the highest level.
Wharton staying at Palace for another season or two is probably best for his development. While this summer he'd cost a massive fee 70m+ I'd imagine. Much like Ferguson would have cost reportedly close to 100m last summer after his breakout. This summer Ferguson wouldn't cost anymore, maybe a little less that last year.
The difference between paying for potential and proven quality isn't that big anymore. Which means as a club we probably are better off waiting and allowing these players to develop at other clubs for a couple of seasons and pay an extra 10% to sign them once they have proven themselves.
Look at João Neves this summer for example. He'll cost PSG close to 100m, even if he's a massive success at PSG and proves his quality no one will pay more than 120m at most for him in the next couple of years.
Last season PSG paid a reported 60m for Ugarte, while he's been solid for them this season and he hasn't let them down, he'll likely be sold for less this summer to ourselves.
Paying massive fees for potential means that at best they prove themselves to be worth that amount of money, but rarely do they prove themselves to be worth more than that.
You are almost better off waiting a a few seasons until they prove their worth and then buy them for a similar amount.
15 Aug 2020 09:56:37
Quick one for Ed002 please.
Rumours of us being in for Saul again. Is this anything you are aware of? He can play on the right too which is a bonus if we finally see Sancho as too expensive, which he is.
Also, if rumours of Stevanovic are true, maybe Saul to cover the right and CM for a season before Stevanovic comes in next summer and then move to CM permanently?
Could be nothing in either rumour though of course.
Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - Saul is not a winger. Saul would be a replacement for Pogba.}
1.) 15 Aug 2020 10:25:12
He played RW on numerous occasions last season and did pretty well from what I read at the time. I only remember as I always thought of him as a CM so was surprised. I didn't watch him myself so just going off what I read at the time.
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of that - he has certainly played RM with Koke in the centre.}
2.) 15 Aug 2020 10:28:34
Saul is the perfect partner for Pogba and Bruno. We should be aiming to play them in the same side, not replacing one with another. What's the point.
{Ed002's Note - The point is Pogba wants to leave.}
3.) 15 Aug 2020 12:06:23
Atletico Madrid don't play with wingers and play a weird system. he's a centre midfielder and doesn't play right wing.
4.) 15 Aug 2020 12:41:28
If we could get Saul I would carry Pogba to his destination bare foot (me not Pogba) . I rate Pogba but Saul is the best of the best. Here's hoping.
5.) 15 Aug 2020 12:58:46
And again, what's the purpose, you get a good player and let a good player go (if Pogba wants to leave - fine) If Pogba goes, we need 2 good CMs. I don't think this should be United's idea. We have to keep our good players and add to them.
6.) 15 Aug 2020 11:14:08
Ed002, with Pogba still wanting to leave, do you see it being relatively likely that he signs a new contract soon and is then sold next summer?
Obviously, I don't know the costs involved but if sides such as Real / Juve etc were able to put in a reasonable bid for Pogba this summer and United can get Saul to replace him that is what we should do.
{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid are not in a position to buy him and Juventus would want to include a player or two in any transaction.}
7.) 15 Aug 2020 11:15:47
Maybe he is being looked at as a replacement for periera. One can but dream.
8.) 15 Aug 2020 11:18:32
I thought he was happy now. If he is leaving and we are getting class CM like Saul, then it's not an upgrade I think.
9.) 15 Aug 2020 11:25:45
It really is pathetic that you make a player stay whe he wants to leave. Let him go and replace him.
10.) 15 Aug 2020 13:42:37
It is well known Pogba wants out.
11.) 15 Aug 2020 15:39:36
Mad Hatter. If nobody puts in a reasonable offer, I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to expect him to see out his contract. He agreed to it and is compensated pretty well.
Imagine your wife wants to move house but the only offer you get on your house is for £20 and a bag of Quavers. Would you be pathetic for turning down the offer even though your house is worth at least £50?
12.) 15 Aug 2020 16:02:26
Redseven, I'm going to throw this out there. You're not a home owner are you? 😂.
13.) 15 Aug 2020 16:31:33
Shappy, Quavers are worth a fortune.
14.) 15 Aug 2020 19:54:57
Saul is a better player than pogba.
15.) 15 Aug 2020 22:42:53
What does everyone think of buying Saul, and possibly Donny van der Beek and swapping Pogba for Dybala?
And then throw the sink at BVB for Sancho next year?
or not if Daniel James, Chong and Stevanovic habe delevoped enough to share the RW.
Should be a comparable outlay to Sancho, probably less wages then extending with Pogba and more depth in the middle of the park.
Obviously all depending on the players willingness to join us.
Let’s win the Europa League and go for this.
16.) 16 Aug 2020 10:09:39
If we could get Dybala, DVB and Saul, with Pogba out, I'd be happy with that. Doesn't seem likely though.
16 Jul 2017 20:31:18
Romero has signed a new 4 year contract. Number 1 if DeGea goes me thinks with Pereira as back up.
1.) 16 Jul 2017 21:18:26
You can't go from DDG to Romero, at a club like Man Utd, we need world class.
2.) 16 Jul 2017 21:23:32
I thought romero was looking at leaving due to wanting to be first choice keeper.
So does this mean that DDG may be on the move?
Obviously romero wasnt quoted saying that he wants to be first choice so its all just rumour.
3.) 16 Jul 2017 21:38:04
Wayne, out of available keepers, who is better than Romero?
4.) 16 Jul 2017 21:47:16
I think he deserves the contract and nothing more to read into it than that.
5.) 16 Jul 2017 23:14:14
I hope DeGea doesn't go, but if it is his wish to leave then I wouldn't be against Romero getting his chance, as I don't see any better out there that are available.
6.) 16 Jul 2017 23:25:49
personally if de gea does go I think schmeichel would be perfect for us.
7.) 17 Jul 2017 01:33:17
Dont see why anyone thinks we need a new keeper. Romero has conceded 10 goals in 28 games and helped us win the Europa League? I think that makes him more than qualified.
8.) 17 Jul 2017 07:37:54
Schmeichel is a good but not great keeper and all the very best title winning teams are built on a strong defensive base with a top top keeper. When teams face a top keeper they know they have to do something extra special to beat him and over the course of a season a top keeper has a huge input into winning trophies.
9.) 17 Jul 2017 08:28:28
What does world class even mean? Romero is Argentina''s No1 (a country with much better team than England) and has played in Copa Americas and World Cups. He's more than good enough if Dave wants to go home.
10.) 17 Jul 2017 08:51:37
Hart schmeichel etc are not an improvement on romero. Only 2 prem keepers i would consider as improving on romero is coutois and loris. Definately would prefer woody to concentrate on other areas.
11.) 17 Jul 2017 09:03:51
I'd be perfectly happy with big serge as #1.
12.) 17 Jul 2017 09:15:09
There's no way Romero is good enough to be our first choice keeper. If he was he'd have teams knocking the door down to sign him while he was sat on the bench. He looks nervous catching the ball and is only a couple of mistakes away from the masses turning on him.
13.) 17 Jul 2017 10:25:09
Romero is a very good goalkeeper. Who is available who is definitely an improvement? Donnarumma just signed a new deal and will be in Milan for at least another year or more. Oblak is unlikely to be allowed to leave for similar reasons for Atletico not selling Greizmann to us earlier in the window.
Ederson looks a great prospect but is at City now. Buffon isn't for sale and would never leave Juve now. Courtois won't leave Chelsea. Lloris won't be allowed to leave Spurs.
So name me a better goalkeeper than Romero who is available this summer?
He has a very good record with us, he is yet to lose a game having won 14 of the 18 games he has played for us. While only conceding 6 goals, and keeping 12 clean sheets.
He has played in a World cup final, Copa America final, confederations cup final and a Europa league final. He has amazing experience, has a great record and is settled in Manchester.
If DDG leaves this summer I don't believe there is a better replacement available. DDG is arguably the best keeper in the world everyone is going to be a step down.
14.) 17 Jul 2017 10:48:09
I agree with Brendan and Shappy. Although Off my head available keepers that i wouldn't mind seeing come in are
Yann Sommer
If fit Mattia Perin
Bernd Leno
From these 3, if Perin can stay fit, I'd say he will be the only one better than Romero, the other 2 I put at par. But this is just my opinion.
15.) 17 Jul 2017 10:53:18
Shappy, most players are available for the right price. Romero has kept clean sheets against minnows so I don't think there's much weight behind those stats.
I agree, any other keeper is a step down from DDG, does that mean we should go from 'best' to 'backup'? Any manager was going to be a step down from SAF but could we have got better than Moyes? Of course we could. We just chose the wrong man. Something we can't afford to do again when replacing arguably our best player.
16.) 17 Jul 2017 10:59:08
I can imagine that Mourinho may go with Romero this year if DDG does go, with Pereira as back up considering how highly Mourinho rates him.
He hadfaith in Romero at the end of last year so no doubt he would this year.
Allowing us to assess the pair of them and if not happy make a move for Oblak next summer.
17.) 17 Jul 2017 11:14:59
Okay Wazza name who you would buy and how much they would cost?
18.) 17 Jul 2017 11:20:56
There are a reason why Jose has been bigging up Joel Perrera recently and giving Serge the new contract. Dave is off home and good luck to him as he has been truly awesome. Let's get a big wad of cash for him, and take one of Real's players in exchange. Kroos or Bale please.
19.) 17 Jul 2017 12:22:39
If we could swap him for Bale, I'd be happy to play with a "backie"!
20.) 17 Jul 2017 13:10:51
Would'nt want De Gea to leave, but if he did I'd be happy with Romero for a season while we see if Perrera develops into a new number one.
21.) 17 Jul 2017 14:21:04
Didn't ed mention Handanovic?
Just to add, I think Romero deserves his chance if DDG leaves. He hasn't let us down.
22.) 17 Jul 2017 17:25:21
If it was me, I would use all the money to get Hugo lloris, world class and proven. And don't give me any crap about not being available (every player has a price no matter what) . Romero is a very very good number 2 but a decent number 1 at best.
23.) 17 Jul 2017 18:07:29
Shappy, it's really not difficult to find better goalkeepers than Romero because he's about average and as for how much anyone costs I don't really think any views on that matter any more.
24.) 17 Jul 2017 18:25:12
W8506 - Hugo Lloris is going nowhere, I guarantee Levy would have us pay roughly the same sort of figure for him as we would receive for DDG. And this "every player has a price no matter what" is very simplistic. I'm sure for the most part that statement is true, How much do you think Juve want for Buffon? How much would Madrid want for Oblak? Just because a player has a price it doesn't mean its a fair one.
Wazza - I refer you back to Shappy: Which Keeper would you buy and for how much? We have a keeper who has proven to be good for us, is happy playing for us, and doesn't want to leave! You say "hes a couple of mistakes away from the masses turning on him", well shame on those masses (would you be one of those? ), what ever happened to supporting a team.
MBD - Agreed.
25.) 17 Jul 2017 18:45:13
Is Lloris that much better than Romero tho? I've seen him make plenty of mistakes in games, so for me he isn't the upgrade on Romero that would be worth the premium he would cost. As I say, I'd give Romero the chance. Very good keeper, experienced, national number 1, played in lots of big games and finals. Not many out there better, and even few worth the stupid money it would take to get them.
26.) 17 Jul 2017 19:02:48
Wazza you keep telling me there are better keepers available but have so far not been able to name one. So come on who would you sign?
27.) 17 Jul 2017 21:42:09
I hope if we do sell ddg to Madrid then let's make em pay top dollar, they tried to shaft us over marata 80 mill yet reports suggest its only 62 mill to Milan, personally hope they tell em to swivel.
28.) 19 Jul 2017 05:06:38
What Shappy said!
Romero is class and I thought so from the his first game at OT.
C'mon Wazza tell us who we can sign who is better. We're waiting!
09 May 2017 20:39:01
Pogba transfer to be investigated by FIFA. Seems fishy this has been anounced 2 days before a Euro semi final.
{Ed004's Note - or it just happens to coincide with contract leaks? I'm guessing it's to do with Raiola's fee}
1.) 09 May 2017 21:08:02
Why does it have anything to do with Thursday?
Ed - am I right in thinking Raiola's fee was settled by Juve in the end, or is it not that simple?
{Ed004's Note - I am honestly not sure. By briefly looking at the leaks I think us, Juve and Pogba paid him}
2.) 09 May 2017 21:12:28
Over 40 mill was it? Absolutely bonkers.
{Ed004's Note - Apparently so}
3.) 09 May 2017 21:15:24
Well UEFA and FIFA don't really like the English do they? Nice little way to unsettle the favourites who happen to be English.
I like a conspiracy :-)
4.) 09 May 2017 21:23:32
We also settled a 2 mill debt of pogbas cough cough .
The fact raiola's is making 40 odd mil from the deal is a joke different form of 3rd party ownership .
{Ed004's Note - I thought Pogba paid Raiola 2 million?}
5.) 09 May 2017 21:44:56
I think it said united payed 2.2mil that pogba owed to one of raiolas company's.
Issues said to be conflict of interest he represented the player united and juventus .
Will all come out in the wash.
22 Apr 2017 22:05:57
DeGea's house has gone up for sale apparently. Let silly season truly begin 😃.
1.) 23 Apr 2017 07:43:07
Lol I heard he rented anyway. 😂.
2.) 23 Apr 2017 07:48:15
And pple don't believe he is going for £70m. Ain't no fire without a spark. Sad if true but we will survive. We are Man Utd.
Even if Arsene Wenger say we will crash without Ibra we will rise again. We will prove these jealous dumb buns wrong. Wenger just can't take it that Jose will be successful here. He'd wished he was taking over but unfortunately he is not qualified.
Things happened for a reason. Without Ibra Jose will be challenged to use all his brain cells and it will give opportunities to those who works hard for Jose.
3.) 23 Apr 2017 08:23:05
Ironically I think we will be better without ibra going forward because it gives us more flexibility. When ibra plays, we cater for him. Without him I think Rashford gets the nod at 9 and potentially we are a much more dangerous and potent front 4.
4.) 23 Apr 2017 09:05:14
I think Wenger needs to worry about his own team first before criticising others
Sad regarding Zlatan, but that's the harsh reality of football, just need to concentrate on getting Champions League football via winning the Europa League or finishing in the top 4.
5.) 23 Apr 2017 09:59:11
We should try to win the Europa for Ibra and let him and Rooney hold the cup together. Two greats.
Would then be nice to use that to slap Wengers mouth for talking too much. Better if we finish above Arsenal.
Also agree with angel that without Ibra our attack will have plenty of pace. So just need to focus on scoring accuracy.
6.) 23 Apr 2017 10:06:35
Ibra hasn't even been at the club a full season there are one or 2 who deserve to lift the cup before him.
7.) 23 Apr 2017 12:08:40
666 where did you read this whole ddg off for 70mn no one reliable is reporting it, also the house sale rumours come from ever reliable sun.
8.) 23 Apr 2017 13:34:59
News from Asia CSM. Betting contacts putting bets out.
9.) 23 Apr 2017 15:07:21
ohh, hopefully they aren't reliable, losing ddg would be a big problem.
10.) 24 Apr 2017 10:30:57
Maybe he's just moving to a new house?
11.) 24 Apr 2017 18:24:23
lol I love your optimism eric!
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26 Jul 2024 17:28:30
'Man Utd defender Harry Maguire to Sky Sports News: "Everything I've heard and the action I've been shown from the club, I'm part of the future and it is time to crack on'
???.
1.) 26 Jul 2024 19:02:15
If we sign another cb he might get the hint. If we don't he is bound to play games. Too many for my liking I suspect.
I still hoping we get JB and that a decent offer comes in for Maguire before the window closes.
2.) 26 Jul 2024 21:08:48
To be honest. If Maguire understood and accepted his role as a, most likely 4th choice CB, I’d keep him ahead of Lindeloff. I actually thought he proved his worth last season when we needed him and he is a better player than being a 4th choice at United so I think he should move for himself, think he’d be excellent for a West Ham or even Newcastle. But if he wants to stay then I wouldn’t be annoyed.
3.) 26 Jul 2024 21:41:29
At the moment he is still 3rd choice at worst ports. 1 more signing in that position and he should see the writing on the wall.
4.) 26 Jul 2024 22:06:04
He’s too good to be 4th choice, but not good enough to be a starter for Utd. The choice then is up to him.
If yoi’re a player, on massive wages, why leave Man Iyd?
5.) 27 Jul 2024 01:54:53
Eric I've no issue with him staying as long as we don't need to play him very often. 4th choice would be about right so hopefully we get jb in or de ligt although I don't see that one coming off you would think it might be done before now. Talk of Silva again but I'm not sure if there is any truth in that.
6.) 27 Jul 2024 03:03:07
4th choice Ken? Give over lad.
We would be better off playing with 10 men who knows how the system works and who don't require the system to change to accommodate them. Honestly people have bad memories!
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7.) 27 Jul 2024 07:36:19
It only takes another couple of injuries for that 4th choice to be starting every week.
Maguire is on a wedge which he won’t get elsewhere. We will see in the coming weeks if he wants to go elsewhere to start every week, or stay at United and collect his money.
His interviews over the years show he’s a bit deluded in terms of how good he is, so he may think he’s still first choice.
19 Jul 2024 18:18:59
There is talk of us allowing Antony to leave on loan this summer as long as someone pays his £70k per week wage.
Anyone daft enough to do that do we think?
1.) 19 Jul 2024 18:50:37
Chelsea.
2.) 19 Jul 2024 19:51:14
70k? That is surpising. Shocked he’s not on more than that!
3.) 19 Jul 2024 20:38:54
It could be as high as £200k a week which is laughable.
4.) 19 Jul 2024 21:34:03
Tbf to Antony he’s is decent in his defensive duties covers a lot of ground coming back tracking
I would convert him to left back. he’s not a winger
Or even through the middle he just needs to get some confidence but I think this is his last season if he doesn’t perform, massively overpriced and under performed.
Has not adapted to English football at all.
5.) 20 Jul 2024 07:27:52
I thought it was widely reported that he was on £200k a week plus goal scoring bonuses, so £200k a week.
6.) 20 Jul 2024 09:12:49
I think he’d make a decent left back due to his tenacity. He certainly doesn’t offer anything from RW.
But his ego says otherwise judging by his reaction when told to play there vs Liverpool.
7.) 20 Jul 2024 11:10:12
I'm not sure Antony would be a good option at LB, but I do think he could adapt to a LWB role very well.
The problem seems to be that he was clearly not happy when asked to play there for 30 minutes last season.
If he has no interest in changing his role and learning the skills needed to transition to that position full time then he simply won't succeed in switching positions.
If we sign Branthwaite and look to play with a back three of Yoro, Martinez and Branthwaite, then Antony could be an interesting option at LWB if he is prepared to make that move. Otherwise his best move is one out of the club, the sooner the better before he drops completely out of the minds of other clubs.
8.) 20 Jul 2024 11:48:20
He would make an awful lb. Can't imagine him defending his back post well at all especially in the air.
He can't tackle very well. He is tenacious but so is my pet terrior. He has not got full back instincts.
Could probably do it on PlayStation better than in reality.
9.) 20 Jul 2024 15:26:24
Square pegs and round holes.
Whilst he has a good work rate, it is more of a headless chicken work rate. He looks woefully out of his depth after 2 seasons in the EPL.
15 Jul 2024 20:30:29
We've been beaten by Rosenborg this evening. Looks like this season will be the same as the last. ETH out before it's too late!
1.) 15 Jul 2024 20:34:34
A makeshift team including kids, gaining fitness, against a team mid-season.
i wouldn't pay much attention to the result tbh. Although Vitek played really well.
2.) 15 Jul 2024 20:57:55
You got one bren ?.
3.) 15 Jul 2024 21:08:19
I said a few months back Vitek for #2 spot if Heaton and bayindir are shipped out.
4.) 15 Jul 2024 21:22:33
Vitek was fantastic, no judgement of any other players really at this point due to the fitness levels but I think Ethan Ennis has probably earned himself a place on the tour.
5.) 15 Jul 2024 21:25:31
Sorry couldn’t help myself.
Saw a bit of Vitek last season, looked very promising. Glad he got a chance today.
6.) 15 Jul 2024 21:41:36
Ready to step uo to that No.2 spot Brendan?
7.) 15 Jul 2024 21:51:00
Don't say ETH Out too soon, Gareth will be able to talk now the Euros are over.
{Ed025's Note - nightmare scenario Kev..
8.) 15 Jul 2024 21:53:03
Toby Collier got a good write up aswell.
9.) 15 Jul 2024 23:08:33
At least we go into new season with a little consistency.
10.) 16 Jul 2024 00:37:26
Vitek very good. No issues with him being a number 2. Collyer decent. Amass decent going forward, but defensively all over the place. The rest were a bit meh.
I know the usual caveats apply for a game at this stage of pre-season, but it was pretty poor.
It was refreshing to see ETH call it out as not being acceptable, rather than the usual 'it's all about fitness' stuff they usually come out with.
11.) 16 Jul 2024 09:32:00
Good one- on a serious note hoped Mount would have come away with a good performance under his belt, see he got very moxed reviews not stand out at all - needs to impress in these pre seasons - big season for him this year.
12.) 16 Jul 2024 10:30:15
All young lads. Pay no attention to it at all.
13.) 16 Jul 2024 12:31:52
Angel,
Not sure that’s the correct attitude, I’d pay no attention to the result but a lot can be learnt about how players equip themselves in games like this, whether they have the correct attitude and if any of the younger players have the ability to step up. I think there are a couple that will have shown ETH yesterday that they aren’t going to make it based on their attitude.
The 2nd half was an extremely young team but first half wasn’t just young lads, it was really all just about fitness but I hope the management team pay some attention to some of the performances.
14.) 16 Jul 2024 13:35:47
Hugely important fixtures. Not for the result but for a variety of reasons as you say gds.
Once we have all players and new ones back and the real stuff starts.
15.) 16 Jul 2024 16:04:15
I think I’d give Vitek a chance as number 2 yes, if he was confident enough to do it. He’s talented enough. We have Heaton too if things don’t work out.
If you are good enough and confident enough then age isn’t so much of an issue.
16.) 16 Jul 2024 18:56:52
Not like the No2 got any chance last season was it.
24 Apr 2024 17:23:27
Former Netherlands international Wesley Shhhhhneijderer has said he hopes Manchester United lose next month's FA Cup final 5-0 after Antony's post-match behaviour against Coventry City in Sunday's semi-final at Wembley.
Maybe he could come out of retirement to show us what he can do. Although I'm pretty sure we signed him a few times in the past.
1.) 24 Apr 2024 17:53:35
What Antony did isn’t even that bad. Anyone would think he started windmilling in the direction of young children with the amount of attention it’s got. People need to get a grip of themselves.
2.) 24 Apr 2024 18:29:52
Wazza,
He came on at 3-0 against a championship side, didn’t take a penalty in the shootout and then cupped his ears like an absolute weapon. It’s not THAT bad but it’s absolutely embarrassing.
3.) 24 Apr 2024 20:54:04
GtS, correct. You've explained exactly what happened.
So why is Wesley Sneijder commenting on it? Does he have nothing better to contribute?
4.) 25 Apr 2024 08:43:52
Very disrespectful from our long term transfer target.
5.) 25 Apr 2024 22:29:36
He was reacting to how some of the cov fans were with him. Not all but some were proper giving jim rubbish, more than normal amount. So he simply "kissed his badge" sort of thing. No way he would have done that if not provoked.
02 Nov 2023 16:16:43
I've been talking to a lot of United supporting reds over the past week or so, and we are all of the same opinion that we just need to reset no matter what that means. Maybe a relegation battle, maybe even a relegation, but we need a hard reset. We are going nowhere, haven't now for a decade, and won't for the next decade without something drastic.
There are too many overpaid, spineless lumps in our dressing room with too much power and too much influence. We need someone with a big pair of balls to just make a massive decision.
It would be unpopular with some, but I think that more and more people are now seeing the need for this.
We need to sell the likes of Fernandez, Rashford, Dalot, Maguire, Varane, Eriksen, Casemiro, Martial, Antony, Sancho, VDB, McTominay. The longer they all stay the longer they will keep throwing endless managers under the bus. They may all think that they are great footballers, but in actual fact they have been shown to be a useless bunch of tw*ts, and not for the first time.
Give Mount, Onana, Hojlund a bit of time to see if they will come good and then begin to replace the others.
Play the likes of AWB, Shaw, Martinez along with some of the younger guys. Get an actual plan in place, a style of play and then get the players that fit that.
Without something major and drastic this isn't changing and we will keep going round in circles and declining. It is hell to watch it happening, and going in to work and the world and their dog gloating and telling me how sh*t we have become is painful, but that will continue as we are awful, terribly run and inept in all departments. I've even had Bolton fans taking the piss at work!
1.) 02 Nov 2023 16:55:01
Bang on Brendan
Like I’ve said many times before this squad is full of blaggers and bluffers.
2.) 02 Nov 2023 17:02:29
I'd agree with that list of players that moving on. I'd be happy for Utd to replace with players only underthe age of 23.
However, just as a cautionary point; isn't that what Chelsea have just done?
3.) 02 Nov 2023 17:02:46
Couldn't agree more brendan. I would agree with every name on the list also.
The structure above needs addressing in full also.
If a sale can be agreed or an investor comes in and we know that sjr aspires to run the sporting side of the business then the structure will be addressed. Until then no major decisions should be taken imo.
4.) 02 Nov 2023 17:34:49
As a United supporting Red, I can say with absolute certainty that I don’t want a relegation battle or relegation.
Finishing anywhere between 8th and 14th should be seen as a disastrous season and reason enough for major changes.
I agree on the clear out though. From top to bottom, the clubs rotten.
5.) 02 Nov 2023 17:52:05
I used to argue back with friends and colleagues of other persuasions. Now, I just shrug my shoulders and smile. It's got to that stage. I've said it previously, there's not one player in that team that I think I actually like as a player right now. Not even going to bother trying to defend them.
6.) 02 Nov 2023 17:55:08
United supporting reds ?. Think I was in two minds on typing United supporting friends or friends who are reds. D’oh!
MancMan - I wouldn’t get all 23 and under, we’d need a proper plan and then to get a mix of experience and potential in to fit that style. I don’t think selling the club to players would be an issue if there was a clear plan in place to go forward with.
2Toms - We would only be finishing low due to the fact we are getting rid of so many players and then putting a proper plan in place. In the interim, whether that starts in January or whenever, it will be tough and will likely mean a bottom half finish at least. However the way it is currently we are going to see that this season anyway, so we might as well bite the bullet and go for it.
7.) 02 Nov 2023 17:38:37
That's my thinking. got called alsorts for saying utd are relegation fodder. Will not happen because there's worse teams, but these lot are absolutely awful but worse of all gutless.
Been going utd since 84, never until last night have I seen so much hatred towards our own players. They simply have downed tools. again. they like any shame and professionalism. they won't go down but they fully deserve too.
8.) 02 Nov 2023 18:50:05
That list should include the whole squad if you ask me. I don’t think there’s a good ‘un amongst them.
I think now we’re finally paying the price for a string of weak managers who’ve been petrified to move on sub standard players. I mean, Antony Martial……9 seasons and 89 goals……absolute joke. How is he still at the football club!?
9.) 02 Nov 2023 19:30:14
It costs millions to simply release players. Do we really expect the Glazers, who are motivated by nothing but money, to sanction letting half the squad go? They wouldn't even pay Maguire £5m (that he was entitled to! ) .
10.) 02 Nov 2023 19:30:49
Why do people keep talking about relegation? They can’t be match going fans, that’s for sure.
26 Jul 2024 23:51:45
I think him, DeLigt and Mazraoui will happen. I think it is just waiting on some outgoings plus other teams buying players (Neves to PSG etc) .
{Ed004's Note - I think Mazraoui, Yoro, De Ligt, Ugarte & Zirkzee would be a very good start to Ineos tenure. Maybe slightly worried about the left back position but adding young and quality players throughout there}
22 Jul 2024 12:30:58
Sancho and Bruno out, Ugarte and Olmo in?
22 Jul 2024 12:29:02
I would let them both go tbh. However Maguire performed better last season without the Captaincy and didn’t do much wrong. As cover either is fine, DeLigt and Yoro this window would be very good though.
19 Jul 2024 18:59:05
Just read that. No idea if it’s true or not but it continues the building for the future if it is true.
18 Jul 2024 21:48:59
Rumour is we have agreed terms with Ugarte with just the fee to be agreed with PSG. That could move quickly too if true.
26 Jul 2024 09:01:56
Foot operation I believe.
20 Jul 2024 18:24:26
I would go in with a wage offer, if he takes it then great, if not walk away. I wouldn’t pay him stupid money to sign for a couple of years. If he is all about the money, which it seemed like he/ his mum was previously then he can go elsewhere and get it. Saudi maybe.
18 Jul 2024 16:26:15
I don’t really have a prediction, but if I could choose what happened this summer and season I would ask for all players that offer nothing to be sold (Lindelof, Maguire maybe, Casemiro, Eriksen, Pellistri, Sancho, Antony, Greenwood, Rashford if the money was right), more players to be added along with Zirkzee and Yoro (another CB, a RB if AWB goes, CM x 2 and a wide player if Sancho and Rashford leave) .
Promote some more younger players and secure a top 4 finish with some good cup runs and maybe a piece of silverware. Then next summer get a new LB and RB as i really don’t like Dalot defensively and fill any other positions that this seasons shows we need to upgrade in.
Not much to ask.
17 Jul 2024 18:00:59
He could just lean his head forward and the natural momentum would get him to top speed in no time!
17 Jul 2024 12:46:37
Also, I’m nearly as excited to see who we manage to get rid of this summer as I am of those coming in.
DVB, Martial, Williams and Amrabat are a good start. Greenwood needs to go too for all involved which looks very likely.
I’m now looking at Lindelof, Eriksen, Casemiro, McTominay and Sancho to add to those if possible. That would be a truly unbelievable summer of outgoings which has been needed for many years.