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05 Dec 2019 07:55:25
IMO last nights game is just further proof that Ole is not the right man for the job. Why you ask?

It seems to me that the players play when they want to or need to prove a point. i. e. 1st 10 games after jose (just a fu jose)

Chelsea x 2, Liverpool (to an extent) and last night (again fu jose) .

We need a manager that can inspire the players to play with that effort every week and not just the games they choose to.


{Ed047's Note - 1st post Fabs or have you been on before?

1.) 05 Dec 2019 09:22:51
Fabs on the other hand I can argue that since he has done well against the top teams, he is the right man for the job. The point is the team has been under performing for a long time, not just under Ole.

Is Ole the right man for the job? I don't think anyone would say "Yes", because of his lack of experience at the top level. However, even with experienced managers nothing significant was achieved with some bad recruitment and thinking along the lines of short term success.

It is already a debate whether the players are to blame or the manager but, when there is a pattern of players under-performing under different managers it does say something about the squad. We still need to clear out some unwanted or not so good players and bring in quality to complement the squad. Any new manager coming in would have the same issues until the squad gets more quality additions.

I however do agree that the team can do a lot better week in and out and Ole needs to take the blame for not motivating the players enough to perform consistently.

2.) 05 Dec 2019 09:24:30
😂😂😂😂 this is hilarious is someone 🐠🐠.

3.) 05 Dec 2019 09:09:44
Ed047 where is the diagree button :)

{Ed047's Note - you mean you don’t agree with the OP? Why ever not 😉😂

4.) 05 Dec 2019 09:57:33
Wait, beating the good teams means he isn't the right man for the job? Interesting.

5.) 05 Dec 2019 10:21:06
Or alternatively we have a side that plays best when given the space to counter attack, something we get much more of against the top sides. As for the first 10 games under Ole, we were in terrible form before that and due to the previous manager parking the bus against sides that were recently promoted, ALL sides felt they could attack us and get at us. Then we went on a run of form, hitting teams on the counter and then the "smaller" sides reverted to playing in a low block and our best attacking players are denied the space they need to play at their best.

Without a clever No.10, or deep forward who can unlock deep defences we have struggled.

6.) 05 Dec 2019 14:13:36
Anyone spot which of the regular posters fab is .

7.) 05 Dec 2019 17:52:00
No jred i can't think who it might be?
Give us a clue to your suspicion. I've read it a few times but nothing obvious to pint to anyone in particular. Its annoying me now🤯.



10 Aug 2018 21:18:23
Its just unfortunate the the swap for alexis and david bellion fell thru at the last min!


1.) 11 Aug 2018 12:38:27
I thought Alexis is David Bellion. No?



22 Sep 2017 08:50:45
Looks like its time to change the words!

Oh Romelu, Lukaku
He's our Belgian scoring hero,
With Van Gaal we scored zero,
Scoring more goals
Than Rooney, Giggs and Scholes
(To made of stone)


1.) 22 Sep 2017 09:37:30
Did any groups complain about Park eating dogs in his own country or Nemanja going to murder you? Rom towing the company line.

2.) 22 Sep 2017 10:19:12
He's our Belgian scoring genius,

we can't sing about his penis,
were politically correct,
he's offside when erect.

3.) 22 Sep 2017 10:27:04
If people said some of the things on the street they sing at grounds they would get arrested. Not a killjoy but some chants are dreadful. It can't be that hard to come up with good ones. I loved th Kanchelskis chant as it was to a Russian tune and very original.

Perhaps I am just getting older but I seem to be more easily offended nowadays. I went to the home Liverpool game last year and he hatred in the ground was disturbing.

4.) 22 Sep 2017 12:08:59

Thats not the best game to get a family atmosphere.

Infact i'd say its the most hate filled crowd in most of football. Not saying i agree tho.

5.) 22 Sep 2017 15:58:43
It's the big softy approach that is leading to all the namby pamby footballers and PC press - killing society and competitive sport. A few years ago it would have been praise enough just to be sung about by thousands of people unwinding from their daily troubles, now it's got to meet with BS parameters. I can semi-understand the really heavy stuff, but singing about the size of somebody's manhood - Jesus, oh sorry (religious icon H Christ) .

God forbid if somebody threw a pie at Mickey Quinn these days, they would be hung drawn and quartered by the press, the FA and doogooders would ensure they were fined and banned from football stadiums for the rest of their lives.

The world's got enough BS to deal with, football chants is not one of them. Free speech people.

6.) 22 Sep 2017 17:20:01
Yes Beast, what was Morata thinking when be berated the Chelsefans for an anti-Semitic chant, clearly Lukaku was too sensitive in asking everyone to move on.

I get the PC gone mad issue, there are plenty of examples where ridiculous decisions been taken because a white middle class left wing liberal thought someone might be offended. However, anything that perpetuates a racial stereotype is not ok, nor is chanting about people dying.

7.) 22 Sep 2017 19:31:04
Personally, I see nothing wrong with the song. It’s a bit of fun, no more. It’s not singing about plane crashes or fans going to a game of football and never making it home again. It is just light hearted humour. Maybe not to everyone’s taste, but the world would be a boring place if you couldn’t do anything in case someone got a little upset. PC bullsh*t again.

8.) 22 Sep 2017 19:49:11
Brendan, are you black? If not then you (like I) don't get to decide if it offensive or not.

9.) 22 Sep 2017 20:44:11
Ask yourself this AJH. When someone told Lukaku about the song, or he read the words online or whatever. What do you think his first reaction will have been? I’m 99.9% sure he would have had a little chuckle as that’s what the song is about. It’s a bit of fun, not an attack against any person or group of people. But as the PC and anti racism brigade have jumped on it, he feels he has to make a statement against it. People need to chill out, it’s pathetic. No one is using the N word or taking the piss out of slavery or anything else that would be hugely offensive. We are talking about a song that says he is well hung. So what? As mentioned above, who whinged about eating dogs, Serbians murdering you or a certain ex Liverpool forward looking like a tranny? No one, and this is no different except it is about a black man and people get very touchy about it, due to a minority of bigoted low life’s in the world.

10.) 22 Sep 2017 21:19:58
Its only a bit of fun. too much political correctness in the world now.
Luis Suarez his teeth are offside . I love the simple ones.

11.) 22 Sep 2017 22:07:40
Brendan, how do you know how he felt about it? You didn't answer my question about Morata either.

I get the PC brigade issue and I can get as exasperated as anyone with some of the nonsense that goes on but just becaus you (and Leahy) think it is harmless fun doesn't mean it is mate. I had to sack someone once for telling jokes to Muslim staff about the Taliban, his defence was the jokes were funny and it was just a bit of fun. Funny enough, the staff didn't think so, and neither did the law. I realise the Lukaku chant was not inherently racist but it does perpetuate a racial stereotype therfore it isn't acceptable.

12.) 22 Sep 2017 23:01:16
Wish I had 78000 people singing about my huge weapon. I'd make it my ring tone!

13.) 22 Sep 2017 23:28:55
Singing about someone’s love truncheon in a very light hearted and jokey manner, and telling jokes about an organisation who carry out suicide attacks and have links to terrorism are hugely different things AJH. They can’t and shouldn’t be talked about as one and the same.

Also, you didn’t ask me a question about Morata nor my tiny todger.

14.) 22 Sep 2017 23:41:11
Safe to say we can tell who goes on.

15.) 23 Sep 2017 00:44:05
Ajh. You sacked someone for telling a joke about the Taliban. that's ridiculous. I've heard english people telling jokes about the irish and what do the irish people do, they laugh. vica versa.
Scottish Welsh irish. They can have a laugh at each other no offence taken. Where's it going to stop,
Soon races won't be able to talk to each other.
If Muslims can't have a laugh in this side of the world then they should go to Muslim countries.
You respect the country you are living in and abide by their way of life or go back to your own. And that goes for me too if I go to another country.

16.) 23 Sep 2017 06:53:57
Wow Leahy, you know Muslims are into at least third and fourth generations here don't you? How are you with the Celtic chants, are they ok? I'm not a spoilsport and I like a good laugh but if someone finds something offensive because it is t do with their race, religion, sexuality, ethnicity, then we need to respect that. The Lukaku chant might not be as obvious as to why it might offend but to suggest people just need to laugh along is a bit naive.

As for the Talban joke, he told several 'jokes' about Muslims to Muslim staff, many of them found them offensive.

Brendan, you're right, I asked Beast about the Morata chant.

This started with the Lukaku chant and has widened somewhat, I think it's a good debate as there are so many hits chanted at grounds that go beyond the pale.

{Ed001's Note - I think Leahy could do with reading Leroy Rosenior's autobiography 'It's Only Banter' about how people used to tell him that when he was racially abused. If people keep pushing racial stereotypes then they will be believed and people get judged by them.}

17.) 23 Sep 2017 07:14:40
Boys I'm talking about having a laugh with everyone not about race abuse, That's a total different thing altogether.

{Ed001's Note - the words missing the point come to mind.}

18.) 23 Sep 2017 07:46:39
People used to think throwing bananas on the pitch was having a laugh. Here's the point - if Lukaku wasn't black, that song would make no mention of the length of his penis.

19.) 23 Sep 2017 07:54:22
That's a book I must read. Did you read it ed. a good read I'd say .
Did he play for West ham in the 80s.
And then went on to management.
I think his son plays today not sure with who though.

{Ed001's Note - I can't remember who he played for, nice guy but some of the stuff he went through is surprising and the way his team mates reacted was shocking to me. His son is Liam, he is back in the Prem with one of the newly promoted teams and started last weekend, can't remember if it was Brighton or Huddersfield though.}

20.) 23 Sep 2017 08:34:20
Lots of people when challenged on inappropriate comments/ jokes/ songs say it is just banter or they are just having a laugh. It is likely they did not mean offence and didn't understand but after that point once understanding is reached you should stop. That is probably why lukaku mentioned it in my opinion. However banter is often used as an excuse when people are fully aware of the meaning and effect their words can have. Lots of bias in the world some conscious but a lot is unconscious.

21.) 23 Sep 2017 10:59:12
Just wondering if Lukaku would have said anything if Kick It Out hadn't made a fuss? Was he told he had a Duty to speak out. End of the day if it offends then it stops. Simple as. Especially our own players.



02 Sep 2014 12:28:25
For those complaining about us strengthening a top 4 rival by selling them Welbeck, I will ask you 1 question.
Would you rather we ended the TW with Arsenal getting Falcao and us keeping Welbeck?!
I think we all know the answer.


1.) To be honest there was a part of me hoping that it was all a big ruse and that we feigned our interest in Falcao to stop him going to Arsenal and City and pretended to be willing to allow Welbs to go to Arsenal to stop them from signing a striker.

2.) But ask yourself this, where Arsenal really going to get him despite our interest? I don't think it was ever a straight fight as the reported wages I would bet Arsenal would of struggled with.

Overall a fantastic transfer window for us, albeit losing a good player to a rival but at the end of the day we are far better strike force than yesterday.

3.) 02 Sep 2014 13:20:50
Having Welbeck go to Arsenal has nothing to do with them not getting Falcao, they wouldn't have got him regardless.

4.) I had hoped we would keep Welbeck, good player, plenty of pace and power, and if Van Persie needs the operation, we would only have two strikers in Rooney and Falcao.

5.) R7, yes I forgot you don't like us signing top notch players. Very odd.

6.) Falcao's wage Is supposedly 350000 pw arsenal would never have paid that money so don't think it was ever a option. Welbeck may go onto be a quality player for arsenal that doesn't necessarily mean he would have for us. A change of surroundings at a club that suits him. I wish him all the best because he did always try his best.

7.) Who knows. It was interesting that Falcao mentioned interest from Real, City and Arsenal - so they must have been fairly interested. By the looks of things we were willing to pay a higher percentage of his wages than anybody else - but if we weren't you have to think he would have gone somewhere else for less. The word is that Real and City had each agreed a deal in principle at one point or another this window (Falcao's activity on Social Media and Negredo leaving leads me to believe that Balague and Tancredi were telling some truth on that one) - but given Arsenal's need for a top striker I could see them moving in at a certain price. That price is clearly lower than what we were prepared to pay - but might not have been too far from the price City and Real were interested at.

8.) R7, Falcao was offered to RM, Chelsea, City & Arsenal. They would have all asked for the details (wages/loan fee) for example and then balked. There was never a chance Arsenal will get Falcao.

9.) Syd - When have I ever said that I don't like us signing top players? When have I said that I'm not chuffed with the signing of Falcao?

I take issue with paying double what a player is worth and I'm not too keen on spending £60m on a player with the intention of playing them out of position. I think that paying somebody over £350k/week to kick around a piece of leather filled with air is the very definition of insanity and I'm also a little flummoxed by our decision to sign world class players who play in positions where we already have world class players whilst ignoring/skimping on positions where we really need world class players.

Aside from that though, I'm incredibly happy with the signings of Falcao and Di Maria (I appreciate this post might suggest the opposite, but I genuinely am happy with how the window went).

10.) R7, the money these days is crazy I agree, but we needed these signings. I would rather pay crazy cash for top class than a lot of cash for players who will not improve us. We can finally look at our squad now and see the parts that need improving and wait for the best one's to come along. I think this time next year we will be in a good position to win the UCL and the league. Well let's hope so anyway :)

11.) Syd - I agree entirely regarding the money involved in football being ridiculous. Likewise, I think we needed to sign some real world class players (to make a statement of intent as much as improving us) - I just don't understand why we didn't push harder for Vidal and Hummels (both of whom appear to have been available if we were willing to pay out what was needed).

That said; Falcao and Di Maria are both top signings and will improve us. Perhaps not to the extent that Vidal and Hummels might have - but they will certainly make us a lot more entertaining to watch next season and go some way to convincing top players and the world in general that we are still a force to be reckoned with.



31 Aug 2014 17:33:21
I wonder, if we could all re-do AJH's prediction comp again after the 1st 3 games, how many would have us in the top 4 at the end of the season now?
I'm optimistic it will come together but a CM that can dictate the pace of the game is essential to that. Other that that with the addition of Blind possibly playing as the ball playing CD and with the return of Shaw & Harerra we can still challenge for the top 4. Personally I'd give the system time but bench Mata (lack of pace) and play ADM central and also bench Valencia (pace but no idea how to use it!) and play Young (I know) or Rapha from the right.
So in summation, sign Vidal and it'll all be just dandy! ;-)


1.) I was going to put as down as fifth but had the confidence that we'd sign the right players between then and the end of the window. As of the moment I don't think we've done that.

2.) Redseven

I think we have signed plenty of good players but obviously not everyone we wanted.

However spreading 3 centre backs at the back and playing young and valencia as wing backs in this f. g formation nullifies most of what has been signed.

I cannot for one minute phantom that players like smalling and Jones are being asked to set up our play from the back, it is just not their thing and their entire training up to now has been different to what they are being asked to do. Even worse is young blanket who until this season has never played first team football and being thrown in there amongst the rest, who seem confused and terrible defenders but they are a lot better than current showing.

BTW Mancini tried this at city and had city in 6's and 7's and conceding goals and ended dropping it before half time or at half time in a dozen games and going back to a traditional back 4.

Let's see what that grand plan is after the window closes and take stock of where we are as I am not sure what he has in mind and doubt anyone else knows.

Maybe Blind will turn out to be stroke of genius and the glue to do what fletcher and the rest are incapable of doing.

3.) Shahram, I am not exactly in favour of the CB's, but I like the idea of very attacking fullbacks. Personally I would play a 442 diamond with Blind as the sitting defensive midfielder. However I do have my reservations about the defence.

4.) I said 5th. But i'm not sure of that now!

5.) Sydney

Jones, smalling and evans did not turn into terrible defenders over night. They might not be world class but they are a lot better than what we are seeing and the current system is accentuating their weaknesses.

City play great attacking football and so do Chelsea but I don't see them playing wingers as wingbacks and leaving their cd's exposed. If you watch the gap between them our defenders when we have the ball, it is alarming how far apart they are being pulled and no choice but to hoof it upfield almost from the touchline and our shape is all over the place.

CD's are not at their best when they are being pulled side to side across the pitch and to make things worse our attacking football is nonexistent. Someone should pull up a stat and I bet we are near or at the bottom of the league in chances created.




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10 Aug 2017 17:44:02
Oh the sarcasm.
Oh the irony?




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09 Aug 2017 21:32:06
Irony really is the lowest form of wit.




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17 Jul 2017 12:22:39
If we could swap him for Bale, I'd be happy to play with a "backie"!




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Almost correct Syd, But the truth is he actually signed both chuckle brothers to replace Cleverley and Carrick, to me to u, to me to u, to me to u, whos that Dutch boy in acres of space, nevermind to me to u!





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12 Apr 2021 13:23:14
And I merely pointed out 1 decent game in 20 is not the required standard for Manchester United.




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12 Apr 2021 10:40:54
Fred is a liability. 1 swallow doesn’t make a summer.




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17 Apr 2020 12:29:15
So did Godin and Bergkamp!

Switch Terry for Marquinhos and Godin for Subotic.




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17 Apr 2020 12:09:58


De bruyne



{Ed002's Note - De Bruyne and Terry played together.}



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05 Jun 2019 22:43:09
The only Portuguese I would sign is Ruben Neves, along with signing Rabiot in a 2 man mid and would play Pogba at no 10.