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04 Jul 2021 08:23:42
Hi Ed002,
After the signing of Jadon Sancho, are United open to the sale of Daniel James?

And with United keen to add a new Centre Back, any update on possible interest in Lindelof/ Bailly?

TrueRedDevil

{Ed002's Note - Daniel James (LW/RW) may be lucky and get a loan. Eric Bailly (CB) new contract but could be available. Nothing on Lindelof.}


1.) 04 Jul 2021 11:50:26
ED002, is there any news on plans for Garner?

{Ed002's Note - James Garner (DM) It has been made clear to Manchester United that the player now wants to be in consideration for first team football and there is an acceptance that even with Matic coming to the end of his career they will look to throwing money at a replacement rather than giving him the chance to prove himself. This has opened the door to Nottingham Forest to consider him as an option - but they will know that interest from lower end PL clubs like Brighton will be joined by those looking to achieve promotion and build a side that can challenge in the Premier League - this will include the likes of Reading and Norwich.}


2.) 04 Jul 2021 13:55:01
Pretty idiotic from the club on this one. Garner is a good prospect who could likely contribute in games against lower end sides and in cup competitions next season. Matic is well past his best and seems to be knackered by November.

Is it likely United will sell Garner or just look to loan him again?

{Ed002's Note - I would think loan.}


3.) 04 Jul 2021 14:38:53
Thanks for info Ed002.

Re/ Garner possible move away from United, do you think this will be a loan or a permanent sale?

And, given yiour inside knowledge, is this because United just don’t rate him highly enough to make the first team, or do they want to loan him out for another year to see how he gets on at say, Brighton, adding muscle and getting used to the Pren etc?

Thanks for any reply.

{Ed002's Note - probably a loan.


4.) 04 Jul 2021 17:09:12
Thanks for reply Ed002, always grateful for your precious time.


5.) 04 Jul 2021 19:03:29
Thanks ED002, It must be rather demoralising being a Utd youth player.

{Ed002's Note - They need to rejig the system a little still but clubs are aware there will eb a need to move twoard more club developed players in the future.}


6.) 04 Jul 2021 21:47:21
Thanks ED002.


7.) 06 Jul 2021 23:08:30
Would love to see Camavinga at Utd… but he doesn’t feel like a Utd signing. Then again neither does Pogba. Certain players suit certain leagues.


 

 

25 Jun 2021 11:52:18
Hi Ed002,
Have United moved on from Grealish as a target after signing Van de Beek?

And also, is it true City are close to signing him?

TrueRedDevil

{Ed002's Note - (a) DvdB could leave after MU wasting the last year of his career and it is unrealted to Grealish. (b) Manchester City are keen on Grealish but I have no way to determine what the word "close" means to you.}


1.) 25 Jun 2021 13:05:38
hes also wasted the minutes he's had on the pitch. all be very few minutes, he must be terrible in training.


2.) 25 Jun 2021 13:36:54
I'd love to say that's a bit harsh Bolger as I'd love Donny to succeed with us, but I have lost a little faith in him and he seems to have lost his own confidence. With us at least. In the last game v Wolves he looked like exactly what we need as he got involved with the playing out from the back and worked the ball through the midfield, whereas Fred is a disaster waiting to happen when he gets on those balls. But that was a fairly meaningless game, and he was playing a little deeper than where he we normally use him

He just doesn't seem to fit the current style of play. He doesn't look for anything beyond a 6 yard pass. Would fit in really well at Barcelona style, but we're all cross field balls and through balls for the runners.


3.) 25 Jun 2021 13:56:19
JohnyKills just out of curiosity, what is the "current style of play"?

DvDB is a wonderful and an intelligent footballer and is obviously wasted under the current manager who prefers brawns over brains on the pitch.


4.) 25 Jun 2021 13:58:26
It was always an odd signing if you just compared the style of play between us and Ajax.

Ajax play a methodical possession based game with the system taking priority over individual brilliance, where as we play a much less coherent style of play which is heavily reliant on individuals doing something out of the blue.


5.) 25 Jun 2021 18:00:05
He is a really good player. He has imo been treated shabbily.
I hope he hangs in there in the hope he out lasts the manager.
I agree he is not cut out for playing oleball but pogba is proving to be a decent midfielder but even he can't get into an oleball midfield he has to play left wing.
Oleball requires destructive players concentrating on stopping the other team playing rather than getting our team playing.
First thing ole has to do pre season is ditch oleball.


6.) 25 Jun 2021 18:52:53
If City sign Grealish we might as well not even play football next season. Tell them to just keep the EPL trophy and be done with it😉.


7.) 25 Jun 2021 19:06:37
If City got both Kane and Grealish for 150 millions plus the wages I don't think that's a great business. I am not saying they are not good or talented players because of course they are. But City will do what we used to do, overpaying for good but not great players (especially with Grealish) . I don't see Grealish fitting on Peps style of play, not pressing, not passing fast enough. I maybe be wrong but that's my opinion.


8.) 25 Jun 2021 21:58:12
I am amused by the constant “he’s been treated poorly” brigade.

A. If he was doing the business in training, he’d get selected more often.
B. He hasn’t looked anywhere near the standard required when he’s been given chances to show what he can do on the pitch.
C. He gets paid very well and in the one year he’s been with us has probably earned more than most on here will earn in their lifetime.

Treated poorly my.


9.) 25 Jun 2021 22:31:17
If we sell DVB and Pogba does not sign a new contract then come next season our midfield options are McFred and an even older Matic. Is the manager and our board really that stupid…. I would say yes. Haha.

You say the Wolves game was meaningless. It may have been to us but Wolves we’re at home in front of their fans and I am sure they would have wanted to put in a great performance for them and the departing manager…. And VDB was MOM.

We sign a DM, and then we will see a better VDB and Pogba if he stays. It won’t happen but NcFred should go first.


10.) 26 Jun 2021 03:24:47
CristianoSolskjaer,

I am just as amused as how Ole is still in the job.

Talking about VDB, his playing time has been managed poorly by our incompetent manager and he just doesn't know how to use him effectively.

A. "Doing the business in training" - just look at both Tuanzebe and Williams who did very well on the pitch and they are overlooked.
B. "He hasn’t looked anywhere near the standard required when he’s been given chances" - well he's certainly beyond Ole's standards for sure. Talking about giving chances, well we all know how poorly he was utilized when there were opportunities to give him and others a lot more game time.
C. "He gets paid very well" - good for him but the limited amount of game time shows how inept Ole is to not utilize a well paid player.

Any player coming in from another league needs time to settle in but still with the experience and technical ability that VDB has, his game time should have been managed more sensibly. It was insulting at times to see him come in the final few minutes of games and sort of undermined his talent.

{Ed077's Note - how is a player supposed to "take his chances" when he gets subbed on 88th minute more often then not?}


11.) 26 Jun 2021 03:34:02
Ed077, that's the point. I mean VDB is not some young academy player that you bring on in the final minutes to give a taste of first team football. He needs a run of games but still feel he would be wasted under Ole with the way he sets up the team.

{Ed077's Note - I too think that our general setup and approach to the games mean the likes of VdB and Pogba cant flourish as a CM/CDM}


12.) 26 Jun 2021 04:34:55
Ed077, I think VDB would flourish under a more tactical manager with a progressive style of play where he is further up the pitch tasked to break down the opposition.

As far as Pogba, the only way I see him flourish is if he is given sort of a free role without too much defensive duties. He also needs that extra bit of time and space on the ball which he is not afforded in the PL. Also, he needs players around him constantly probing and dragging the opposition to get the best out of him. The main concern though is he mentally lacks the dedication and focus to be a top player on the pitch for us.

{Ed077's Note - I dont think Pogba will actually ever be a consistent performer no matter the system or the manager.

Who knows about Donny? He's not had a run...


13.) 26 Jun 2021 14:16:32
Sign a DM who can pass at least reasonably well, or even better, a Deep lying Playmaker who can defend, and I think we'll see a whole new side to Donny. Pogba would benefit a lot too, but I don't think he'll ever be consistent for us. McTominey would also flourish with the extra freedom from playing alongside such a DM.


14.) 26 Jun 2021 16:00:14
It is better that Pogba leaves one way or the other as he is inconsistent as you say Ed077.

Thorne, I agree but unfortunately our priorities are elsewhere at the moment. But even with a DM I am not sure Ole is going to ditch playing 2 CMs to guard his defense.


 

 

17 Jun 2021 14:36:08
Hi Ed002,
Went through one of your comments in the Chelsea page that one club will make a huge push for Varane.

Is it United?

Thanks in advance.

TrueRedDevil

{Ed002's Note - Yes, but there is interest from elsewhere as well.}


1.) 17 Jun 2021 15:06:52
Wow. Thanks for the info Ed.

I believe Varane would hugely transform our defense similar to what Dias and VVD have done.


2.) 17 Jun 2021 15:28:59
Surely they won't allow Varane to leave aswell as Ramos?


3.) 17 Jun 2021 16:12:46
I hope we sign Varane. Appreciate he's had some injury problems and we don't want a player who misses games, however, he's a fantastic defender and could help turn our central defence from a weakness to a strength in our side.

Not only is he individually a very good player but he would compliment Maguire's lack of pace.


4.) 17 Jun 2021 17:32:41
Maybe we could swap him for pogba?


5.) 17 Jun 2021 17:37:19
Varane will be my first choice and he will be the first proper defender since the Rio and Vidic days.


6.) 17 Jun 2021 17:45:01
Varane would add 12 points to us.


7.) 17 Jun 2021 20:33:20
Swap for Pogba would genuinely be a brilliant deal. Gets rid of a problem for United and brings in a massive upgrade at CB.


8.) 17 Jun 2021 20:52:34
Hey ed, does this mean that Pau Torres is someone that United aren't looking at?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


9.) 17 Jun 2021 21:09:54
Joel Glazer said the club would invest this year. Sancho and Varane alone would be huge.

If we where to get Kane or Ronaldo and DM that would be a dream

There'll be no excuses for Ole next year.


10.) 17 Jun 2021 21:15:34
As things stand i think its either Varane or Pau Torres. If there is a chance we get both of them i would be over the moon.


11.) 17 Jun 2021 21:31:26
Is Torres all that or do we just get sucked in by the usual names. He didn’t look like an upgrade. Varane on the other hand would be a Rolls Royce in a sidestreet banger auction. Can’t see him fancying it, Chelsea more like.


12.) 17 Jun 2021 21:44:57
So good to see we are linked with Varane and Torres. We need both. That’s the dream though. One massively improves us though.


13.) 17 Jun 2021 21:55:27
Imagine a defence of Varane and Torres, if only that was a reality and not a drew.


14.) 17 Jun 2021 22:44:55
Apparently Madrid want 80m we offered 50m…for once I’ll side with us on this, no way should we pay that when he’s got 1 year left on his contract. Madrid always see us coming don’t they!


15.) 17 Jun 2021 23:11:02
Torres is a very good reader of the game Spenno. Maybe great. He has a good left foot but he is not so strong and for his height he is not great in the air. He is a bit like our own Lindelof but taller. If he comes here he must strength his core.
He would be the ideal defender if the club didn't make the huge mistake with Maguire. He can clearly play the Maguire role much much better than him and compared with a player like Varane would make things better.


16.) 18 Jun 2021 17:12:55
I guess it comes down to what someone wants to pay but I think 50 mill for Varane is fair opening offer.


17.) 18 Jun 2021 18:31:18
It seems more like a closing offer boyfrom. He is 28-29, he has a year left in his contract and wants to leave. Taking all this into consideration 50 million pounds is a very bug offer.

{Ed077's Note - What does a "very bug offer" mean??;-P


18.) 18 Jun 2021 21:59:57
Know what you are saying Herrera, but weeks ago I thought all this tabloid talk of him being available for 35-40 mill was daft. Not my money but i'd of gone to 50 mill and I think our offer of 50 mill if true plus maybe 3-4 mill linked to trophies won would be as high as we should go.


19.) 18 Jun 2021 19:01:31
Haha Ed077. No way i mean "big" 😝.


20.) 19 Jun 2021 07:58:10
Varane has apparently been trying to leave Madrid since 2017 and yet he is still there. Now Ramos has gone, expect Varane's contract to be extended.


21.) 19 Jun 2021 19:22:05
There is no way Man United bid anywhere near £50 million for Varane.


22.) 20 Jun 2021 08:00:24
Real Madrid don't let their players leave on the cheap and we either should decide to pay up or move on to alternate options and not let this drag on just like Sancho.


 

 

31 May 2021 14:24:13
Hi Ed002,

What is United's plan for Donny Van De Beek for next season?
Is he part of the first team plan or will he be moved on this summer.

It must have been an insult to him to not even come on as a substitute in the Europa final.

TrueRedDevil

{Ed002's Note - Donny van de Beek (CM) has been offered to Real Madrid and Juventus, and will be offered to Barcelona due to a lack of a plan or direction at MU. But both Spanish clubs have moved on and unless Manchester United would accept a long-term payment plan or loan to buy there would not be the spare money to buy him. If Pogba leaves there will be space in the team - but MU seem intent on holding him hostage. Juventus has a preferred CM target but might be open to a loan to buy deal. Roma, Inter or Borussia Dortmund may provide an option if he is to leave - but he would not be first choice for any.}


1.) 01 Jun 2021 11:14:59
Such a strange signing for us. Clearly OGS and his coaching team don’t think he’s good enough to even get many sub minutes.

So the question is who scouted him, who said yes to him, and who released the funds. Smacks of another poor signing in our midfield which, Bruno aside, has been a real weakness for our club. Fred being another case in point.

I think we need to go big in this area in the summer - Rice or Saul - question is who do we sell? Who even wants any of these guys? For me Pogba has to go.


2.) 01 Jun 2021 21:42:44
Swap Pogba for Varane?


3.) 02 Jun 2021 14:27:35
For me, Pogba and either Matic or Fred should go. Bring in a proper DM, Rice, Saul, Koopmeiner or someone like that, ideally someone who can play a deep-lying playmaker role when we are trying to break down packed defences.

Then whichever we keep out of Matic and Fred can be backup 6, and we can rotate McTominey and DVB as 8, depending on opposition. Both have goals in them, and McT can pull players out of position with runs through the middle on the transition, while Donny has better passing and movement off the ball. They both just need the freedom of playing alongside a real DM rather than Fred.


 

 

30 May 2021 11:12:26
Hi Ed002,

What are United's plans for Facundo Pellistri, Amad Diallo and Elanga.

Will they be loaned out to get regular game time or does the club have plans to integrate them to the first team?

TrueRedDevil

{Ed002's Note - Pellistri will stay where he is in Spain I would think; Diallo will likely stay with the first team squad; I don't think there is a plan for Elanga just yet.}


1.) 31 May 2021 12:33:47
If ole stays, Diallo and Van De Beek Weill become best friends on the bench.


 

 

 

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23 Jul 2021 13:13:35
Jadon Sancho finally unveiled.

A top class talent who can play multiple positions. He is also a fantastic creator and can now share some burden off Bruno.

A front 4 of Cavani, Rashy, Sancho and Bruno is just mouth watering.
Hopefully the coaches can bring the best out of them and entertain Old Trafford.
Excited for the season to start!

TrueRedDevil

1.) 23 Jul 2021 14:30:15
If those 4 get going it is mighty scary, hopefully we could just get a CB and DM to make this squad even stronger.

I am also excited for kickoff.


2.) 23 Jul 2021 14:48:37
When you think of a front four of Sancho, Bruno, Rashford and Cavani it does look like a top class front four, or at least the makings of one.

We then have Greenwood, Amad, Pellistri and Shoretire coming through who over the next 2-3 years will have a bigger impact on the first team.

While we still (currently) have Martial, James, Lingard, Mata and Donny (as a No.10) as back ups.

Until we see 2 or 3 of these players either leave or fail to step up then I don't see us needing to sign anymore forward players.


3.) 23 Jul 2021 16:25:53
Well done getting Sancho over the line at a good price. Great business.

I was really impressed how he came into the england games and didn't try to do too much, he was still playing simple and sensible team football.

Number 25 as well, not trying to be too flashy?

I hope he goes on to make a big legacy for himself at man utd. Very ex itjng player who. Certainly adds something extra to our squad.


4.) 23 Jul 2021 17:03:57
Dodgy, I like the fact that the club haven't tried to take a number off of Cavani (7) or Greenwood (11) just to accommodate the new signing.

Personally I like the idea that Sancho can have a season or so to bed in without the added pressure of the No.7 shirt. Then he can claim in next year when Cavani leaves with hopefully a solid season under his belt.


5.) 23 Jul 2021 17:43:11
Exactly Shappy.

All footballers are bonkers it seems, but a few signs that Sancho is a pretty switched on kid. I think he found a good place to play and he sees this club developing well over next couple of years. The good times are coming 👀.

{Ed077's Note - a look into his choice of "agent" might suggest something slightly different though.}


6.) 23 Jul 2021 17:47:17
There was talk of it being 16 at first too.
Its always nice to wear your favourite no but it's not such a big deal and as shappy said he will claim it when cavani leaves.


7.) 23 Jul 2021 18:35:06
There should be no shortage of assists from Sancho, Rashford and Fernsndes. We should be nothing but excited about that front group of players.
Now we need a better midfield set up to maximize the potential.

{Ed077's Note - you mean Camavinga and Goretzka?;-P}


 

 

13 Jul 2021 14:48:06
United have added a new coach - Eric Ramsay.
He is apparently a special-ist in dealing with set piece situations.

Considering the ludicrous amount of goals we conceded in set plays last season, it is nice to see the club acting on it.

TrueRedDevil

1.) 13 Jul 2021 15:17:32
He is a fantastic appointment, very well respected with modern coaching methods. It was a huge weakness last year as well, if we scored 5 more set pieces and conceded 5 fewer it could make a big difference.


2.) 13 Jul 2021 16:25:38
It shows a clear understanding from our coaching department of our and their own weaknesses, and they have acted to bring someone in who'll hopefully fix that issue.


3.) 13 Jul 2021 16:35:24
If he can beat the first man with his corners and wide free kicks then its an astute acquisition in my opinion.


4.) 13 Jul 2021 16:46:03
'clear understanding' as Mike phelan still sits there as assistant manager 🙃.


5.) 13 Jul 2021 17:37:32
I read he has been an u23 coach and has been at Rochdale. Any new blood can only be an improvement i suppose.


6.) 13 Jul 2021 18:01:18
Wasn’t Phelan Assistant manager last time we won the premier league?


7.) 13 Jul 2021 18:03:03
Chelsea under 23s and done a great job there and the youngest British person ever to achieve the UEFA pro license, seems promising.


8.) 13 Jul 2021 19:37:02
Seems like there are a lot moves happening.

New signings and prospective buys like Varane and Camavinga plus the above and stadium work are all signals some improvements off pitch.

Next up is coming through on the fan ownership.


9.) 14 Jul 2021 08:30:14
Utd Road

Is the stadium work any more than maintenance/ repair?


10.) 14 Jul 2021 09:01:50
Any new blood and new ideas will benefit all concerned.
Expertise is needed.


 

 

01 Jul 2021 10:04:11
Multiple sources suggesting Varane to United is almost done.
Great news if true and a fantastic start to the transfer window.

Nice to see the club conducting the recruitment early.
It always helps during pre-season for the new players to gel with teammates and the surroundings.

Exciting.

TrueRedDevil

1.) 01 Jul 2021 12:22:27
Great if true. Now get Rice.


2.) 01 Jul 2021 12:50:21
Throw Lingard in to the deal for Declan Rice and maybe a couple of other players on the fringe at United.


3.) 01 Jul 2021 18:14:56
I looked for Uniteds official announcement about Varane and saw it on the Beeb website, they have contacted RM regarding a 50 million bid.


 

 

30 Jun 2021 19:43:33
Welcome to Manchester United Jadon Sancho.
We now have one of the most exciting attack in the world.

Hope he settles soon to our club and nail down the RW spot for good.
As he can also play LW comfortably, Rashy can also be rested to ease the workload.

TrueRedDevil

1.) 30 Jun 2021 21:22:07
I am excited by this signing because I want players to thrill me at Manchester United and Sancho can do that.


2.) 01 Jul 2021 06:37:32
Come on oak, are you not thrilled when Fred misplaces a pass? 😂.


 

 

10 Jun 2021 08:10:50
Interesting quotes from Rio Ferdinand on Rashy:

"Rashford needs to do is go talk to Michael Owen. Have coffee with Owen and listen to him talk about burnout, playing too many games at a young age and the effects that it has on your career for years to come. "
"It's important for young players to understand that you can't play every game. Sometimes you have to say you need rest. ".

TrueRedDevil

1.) 10 Jun 2021 10:32:17
Wouldn’t wish anyone to have to go and sit down with Michael Owen lol.


2.) 10 Jun 2021 11:06:34
Owen before his injurys was class.


3.) 10 Jun 2021 17:49:18
Well, isn't our manager himself a former striker? I want to know what Ferdinand actually thinks about Ole then.

{Ed014's Note - there’s not a lot to think about him as a striker, just a journeyman as the saying goes.


4.) 10 Jun 2021 17:59:33
Let's Play, I'm guessing Rio means to talk to Owen about the damage you can do to your body by continually playing through injuries and not allowing yourself the proper rest. Owen really suffered with that and I think is a perfect example of why it's so important to manage workload correctly.


5.) 10 Jun 2021 18:37:51
AA80, I do understand that but when your players are asked to talk to someone else about maintaining themselves when the manager was a player himself to start with, Rio even suggesting that feels crazy.

{Ed001's Note - Owen didn't play through injuries, he just tore his hamstrings too many times. Never once did he play through an injury, quite the opposite if anything.}


6.) 10 Jun 2021 18:41:31
Ed014, that would be harsh on Ole. I think he was a very good striker and scored a lot of goals for us and he was very clinical with his finishing. I respect him as a player but as a manager I can't say much.

{Ed014's Note - just my opinion LPU, he didn’t do a lot for me and not a striker I ever feared us playing against mate.


7.) 10 Jun 2021 18:54:20
Ed001, that's even more crazy. I guess that Owen isn't of much help then.

I wonder what would Owen suggest "not play too many games". Would Ole listen? Probably it's him that needs some advice on player management.


8.) 10 Jun 2021 21:00:05
Ole was a brilliant finisher, one of the best, watched the goals he scored for us not that long ago and some were phenomenal, always fancied him for a goal and usually got one. Sure the OP was about teaching him about playing too many games as a kid not about being a striker, good way to slag off the manager again though eh.


9.) 10 Jun 2021 22:50:09
Very average squad player. His record is not that great. Happy to sit on the bench. Really good crosser of a ball though when he replaced Beckham on the right foot a brief period. Good man to have on the bench. Never 1st choice really and was here a long time.
He lacked ambition and drive imo but it was a great time to be auto player so it was a hard club to leave back then. All in all like John o shea a good squad player but never played as much as the likes of o shea.


10.) 11 Jun 2021 01:43:17
He scored 91 goals in the premier league 😂 a lot of apps off the bench too but he played 20 games less than O’Shea for united and O’Shea played for the club for 12 years. I know you dislike Ole Ken but making things up to change how he was as a player is a bit of an odd one. As you like to say that post you just wrote is absolute garbage.

Go back and watch his goals, as a striker for a team winning league titles, some amazing finishes, he was clinical, in the end injuries took their toll on him but you are either misremembering him or deliberately underplaying it for whatever reason. I know you’ll say I’m totally wrong as always but on this occasion please do me a favour and go and watch his goals, genuinely think you might be describing a different player or misremembering him.


11.) 11 Jun 2021 06:11:36
Ole was a really good striker- suggesting otherwise is just plain daft. He just fell in love with the club and the area and didn't want to be anywhere else -thats not lacking ambition - Le Tiisier, Shearer did it too. Plenty of teams Ole could have been a 1st choice for. i'm no fan of his as a manager but as a player at his peak he was class.


12.) 11 Jun 2021 06:44:26
Average squad player? Balderdash. He was an outstanding squad player, never complained, great goal scorer, looked like he might take Beckhams place until the injury.

I'm not saying he was a worldie but to call him average is plain wrong.


13.) 11 Jun 2021 08:07:32
Out of the wrong side of the bed this morning tony🤣🤣🤣
So he didn't play as much as o shea.
Check out the minutes played for each gds2 and you'll find o shea played a vast amount more as ole was a sub a lot. So where am I making things up.
91 prem goals over 9 seasons is very average for a striker.
I think you will find below Average as a striker for an epl winning side.
He was not brilliant at anything he was an average squad player. His game time will tell you that.


14.) 11 Jun 2021 09:39:02
Just any chance to take a swipe at Ole. This fan base is really toxic. Ole stayed with the club for many years and was a great option from the bench. Without him we wouldn't have the treble mind you ( Fa cup vs Liverpool and of course the champions league) . 91 premier league goals that too not as a guarenteed starter is very good. You can judge him for his management but stop disrespecting him as a player and his loyalty to us by saying he wasn't ambitious.


15.) 11 Jun 2021 09:41:54
I always thought the best way to gauge a striker was goals per minute ratio and I could be wrong but thought ole was second on this list after Michael owen. I may have remembered this wrong and surely someone will let me know if I am but ole always was good for a goal as I recall.


16.) 11 Jun 2021 11:16:38
So Steve10, what you are saying is that all other members of the 99 squad might as well have not played since Ole won it all for us. I never realized that. Ole was nothing more than a decent striker who was happy on the bench. Chicharito could and would have bettered Ole's record if he had stayed longer but he had ambitions and wanted to be a starter.

Ken, you serious? 91 goals in 9 seasons? Hardly a record to be banging about. 10 goals a season average for a striker. Its probably that 91st goal that he will always be remembered by🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.


17.) 11 Jun 2021 06:24:07
Ed014, respect your opinion. He might not be a fearful striker but as GDS2 says some of his finishing is top class and you need players like him who you can rely on to score a goal when you need one.

{Ed014's Note - plenty of players on the fringe of teams have made world classes finishes but it doesn’t make them legends or close to it.


18.) 11 Jun 2021 12:49:00
Maybe not Ed, but that last minute goal to win the Champions League, and an historic treble, as well as giving many Utd fans one of their greatest ever moments in football, warrants a bit more kudos than a bang average fringe player imo. You could throw in his goal against Liverpool that season as well.


19.) 11 Jun 2021 14:22:00
Anybody who thinks Solskjaer wasn’t a good player for us has no idea what they’re talking about. His stats might not be all that impressive on paper, but he was worth his weight in gold on the pitch and was one of the most clinical finishers we’ve ever had. Besides, his minutes per goal ratio is only slightly behind Shearer and when his 37 assists are included (another big part of his game), he managed a pretty respectable 0.83 goals and assists per 90 minutes in the league. Rooney, our record goal scorer, clocked in at 0.8.

{Ed0666's Note - OGS was a baller as an impact sub no doubt. He has every right to be hailed as one.


20.) 11 Jun 2021 14:50:21
As mentioned previously Ken towards the end of his career he had injuries and when he came back he played a lot of games on the right, as you mentioned he put some great balls in and created. So now you’re ignoring that yo suggest 91 goals over 10 seasons. 3 of them seasons towards the end of his career he hardly played and when he came back he played on the right. Don’t let facts get in the way of your disrespect though.


21.) 11 Jun 2021 15:31:47
GDS2, are we allowed to have different opinions buddy? I mean who you think is good and who Ken or I think are good is a very subjective thing. For you, playing on right left or centre is defining while for me personally, sitting on the bench throughout ones career is defining. RvN played a lot less games for us than Ole i believe but scored more than him?


22.) 11 Jun 2021 16:02:56
All makes you wonder why the greatest manager ever was happy to sell him and usually didn't start him.
Good player. Not a great one.
A good impact sub. Anderson scored his pen in cl final shoot out but he was still bang average not sure a fleeting moment in a 10 year career is worth any great kudos. Ole did well here as a squad player. No disgrace in that butt, o shea nani and many more all made good contributions.
Nobody said he was poor or awful he is average imo averaged 10 goals a season in a team that won 6 titles over that period so he was not world class.


23.) 11 Jun 2021 16:14:52
In his first 6 seasons he scored 75 goals in 163 appearances, many of them as substitute. I don’t think he’s a legend, the winning goal doesn’t elevate him that high, but he was a very very good finisher and an outstanding squad player.

However, for someone who could find the net, he did seem happy to be a squad player. There were some good players ahead of him and he never agitated for a move. Does that tell us anything about him? I genuinely don’t know but it was to our benefit.


24.) 11 Jun 2021 16:15:55
United Addict. RVN was top top class and first choice, Ole was a squad player who had a huge impact from the bench. To compare the 2 of them is laughable.


25.) 11 Jun 2021 16:09:46
average results from an average player. Its simple. We have had dozens of average players doesn't mean they weren't any good but as gds2 suggested above that ole was one of the best its something I can't agree with. I don't think he was in our top 5.
Of the 4 strikers that where in the squad ole played the least of the 4. So its sir Alex maybe that's needs the convincing nit me gds2. He knew a thing or 2 he felt ole warranted less time than Teddy Cole or Yorke. i'm not alone in my opinion.
I've better things to be doing than watching old goals from 20 years ago thankfully. I'll maybe resort to that sort of thing in my 80s when I can't remember my own name anymore.


26.) 11 Jun 2021 16:14:10
Disrespect gds2? I wouldn't cross the road to say hello to him or 95% of our past players. Once your gone your gone I've no interest in 95% of our ex players all they are are men who used play for my fav team. They don't deserve any extra respect because they one played football.


27.) 11 Jun 2021 16:56:52
I nodded at him once in John Lewis when our wives were faffing over home furnishings. We shared a moment.


28.) 11 Jun 2021 17:06:46
Tony, isn't that the argument to start with? Ole was a squad player at best. that's all i am saying. Compared him with RvN to showcase the gulf in class. You reinforced my point, thank you😀.


29.) 11 Jun 2021 17:08:41
Tony, did it go any further? Did one thing lead to another? 🤣🤣🤣🤣.


30.) 11 Jun 2021 17:14:08
If he was a regular 1st teamer he'd have been in selfridges with o shea.


31.) 11 Jun 2021 18:43:00
Ajh fully agree it was to our benefit that he stayed as long as he did. United were the top club at the time its never easy to leave. Some did and went on to do well and shine elsewhere. Good player for us ole and like butt oshea Phil neville brown and countless others he played his part. He did get the winning goal in the cl final i reader him scoring 4 in about 18 mins as a sub v forest (i think) nobody is denying he had some good moments but never was 1st choice for a sustained period in 10 years. He was happy with that. He pocked up medals and made his mark. Whole lot better at football than 🤣 but not a better player than Teddy yorke Cole hughes Rooney RVN rvp mcclair lukaku ibra teves to name just a few.
Some will remember him more fondly than some of those above and went not? We all have our favourites gds2 thinks he is one of our best ever finishers and well entitled to that opinion i beg to differ.
Out of those i'd most liken him to mcclair. Good team-mate i'd say good lad for a manager to have in his squad. Reliable to do a job when called and content to play a subs role. The quintesential definition of a squad player you could say.
I was in the noucamp in 99 like many others it was a pinch yourself moment for sure but that's all it was a moment. A great one for the memory bank right man in the right place at the right time. Many other would not have scored that goal. But he did and nobody can ever take it away from him. I remember a guy who played a similar role at Liverpool in late 70s and 80s David fairclough he was the original goal scoring sub and seemed happy to be just that.


32.) 11 Jun 2021 23:27:59
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21 Jul 2021 16:19:23
Thanks Ed, Ruben Neves will be a huge upgrade on Fred.

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14 Jul 2021 12:45:32
Heaton is probably a third choice GK. He is likely to never make a first team appearance at 35 similar to Lee Grant.
So I don't count him as a signing.

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05 Jul 2021 08:11:38
Hi Ed002,
Will Camavinga be a Pogba/ Van De Beek replacement or for Matic?

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04 Jul 2021 08:18:02
Henderson has not had a proper full season with United under his belt.
I would give him an year before judging him.
There must be some reason Chelsea, Bayern, Spurs were interested in him .

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17 Jun 2021 15:06:52
Wow. Thanks for the info Ed.

I believe Varane would hugely transform our defense similar to what Dias and VVD have done.

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22 Jul 2021 18:52:19
Great news. Congrats Coalan. May GOD shower all blessing to you and family.

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21 Jul 2021 07:26:47
I'd have Pogba in midfield any day ahead of Fred/ McTominay pivot.
Atleast he makes something happen rather than sideways/ back passes.

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16 Jul 2021 14:26:05
That would be great Ken.
Moving away from a defensive minded approach will be a step in the right direction.
I expect Varane to take us to the next level.

And with the addition of Sancho, we have a potent attack force.

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15 Jul 2021 10:15:41
Fred should be a squad player at best and shouldn't be in the first X1 if we aspire to compete at the top.

The number of times he concedes possession is crazy. He doesn't create chances nor does he chips in with goals.
With his poor first touch, it's also a risk playing out from the back with him.

I wouldn't sell him personally. Have him has a squad player for added depth.

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14 Jul 2021 19:34:35
Lol Shappy comparing Fred with Fabinho/ Henderson.
The latter two are from different planet in terms of quality.

The problem we have is McFred are not creative on the ball, don't possess the passing range and don't move the ball quickly to our forwards.

VDB with a proper CDM like Rice will give us a fantastic midfield pivot to build on.

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