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21 Mar 2020 22:26:27
Rumours of Auba to Utd. No idea if this is now just crazy time due to lack of content. But I have to say, that would be an excellent signing for us. Last year with Arsenal, so they may be tempted to cash in. Almost has the feels of an RVP but he's not quite so deep into his career.

He would be an upgrade on Martial as a 9. Scores goals for fun. What do you all think, would you take him?

DodgyBanter

1.) 22 Mar 2020 10:38:16
Rumours started last summer when Andy Goldstein from talksport said he was told Utd were in for him so maybe there is something in it who knows. Good player though wish he wasnt as old as he is.


2.) 22 Mar 2020 10:54:42
I think we're done buying older players on high wages. He's a fantastic player but you'd imagine he'd demand Sanchez type salary. Just doesn't seem to go along with Solskjaer's plan.


3.) 22 Mar 2020 12:02:02
I'd prefer lacazette to be honest. Although he's seemed a bit off this season.


4.) 23 Mar 2020 11:10:01
I would rather save the money and buy ighalo and spend the big money on right wing, cm, pogba replacement and pacey centre back.


5.) 23 Mar 2020 12:03:35
Thanks for replies guys. I think that Auba allows us to play how we have been playing, direct and very dangerous on the break, but hs also makes runs in the 6 yard area like a striker. He can score headers with more consistency. Depending on fee he could be interesting. Not for silly money either in transfer or wages.


6.) 26 Mar 2020 16:05:39
who is Auba?


 

 

 

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16 Oct 2021 13:41:25
Another woeful var decision in the liv Watford match. How on earth is Salah not part of play? Cathcart has to play to ball to stop it getting to Salah who was offside and crossed to. What a joke of decision. These new rules are ruining football.

DodgyBanter

{Ed014's Note - don’t do it to yourself, guess you thought the next goal of his was rubbish too!


1.) 16 Oct 2021 14:12:53
That may be but the result was not in any doubt. And it's not like there weren't more errors prior to VAR.

More concerning to me is how well Liverpool function as a team with a plan and the players to execute it. Okay, so Danny Rose was atrocious, but Salah's ball to Mane was brilliant. The second goal was also very nicely executed. It could well have been worse Watford at the 45. I didn't watch the second half.

If only United could play with that pace and accuracy, along with the superbly executed pressing.


2.) 16 Oct 2021 14:26:53
I only flicked the game on for 5 mins, so that was all I saw. Not at all a gripe about the performance, or whether it affected the game.

This decision that a cross to an offside player is not offside until the ball gets to them is just horrible. What are defenders supposed to do? They can't leave the ball and just hope the flag goes up. It is just plain wrong, a player can be "active" without ultimately touching the ball.

Sounds like Liv played well then? Not easy to do straight after international break, so fair play to them.


3.) 16 Oct 2021 14:53:19
The rule is trash but it was correctly applied for that goal. Common sense shows that the player only goes for that ball as Salah (who was offside) is behind him.

But that's the law makers for you and nothing to do with VAR as they were ultimately correct by the rule book.


 

 

15 Oct 2021 02:40:45
Are there any posters left on here still supportive of Ole and his team? Starting to feel like a lone wolf on here, and quite honestly, getting to the point where I'm going to take a back seat and stop posting for a bit. It is exhausting being the last remaining supportive voice, so shout up if you are still out there!

I am looking forward to this run of games. Lots of challenges, when to rest, who to bring in. Couple of injuries to manage. Rumours are growing about jan window and who will leave. Lots of tests to overcome. Bring it on!

DodgyBanter

1.) 15 Oct 2021 03:07:54
My allegiance is to the club and that's it. Everything else is secondary. If you're not good enough then off you go. Thanks for your service. That goes for both players and manager. Could care less if you're a club legend. If you're hindering success, then off you go.


2.) 15 Oct 2021 05:30:40
Managers and players are transient employees. I don't support them, i support the club. Ole has to go. NOW.


3.) 15 Oct 2021 07:15:58
Db I would say you are one of the last alright on the site.
I'd argue that anybody that can't see our managers failing knows nothing about football and has limited understanding of the game. In all likelihood never played the game never has taken any coaching badges. (Not that you have to but it helps)
No pundit that has not played with ole has not spoken up.
I genuinely believe you are in a world of your own if you can't see the negatives you are being deliberately churlish. Its not a case of being negative its just a simple case of knowing the standards required or not required in this case.
You are always upbeat and positive which I admire but there is a difference Between that and acknowledging how bad a football manager he is. He is useless at this level.
He has not built a good team playing a cohesive entertaing brand of football in 3 years after spending half a billion pounds.
Get him out so we can get our club back and out of the control of a complete fraud. The bloke is a useless manager and not a nice person either imo.


4.) 15 Oct 2021 08:18:43
I still support Ole but it does get harder with every performance. Sometimes it does look like there is very little tactical plan. The problem is I haven't seen a single good performance all season. We've got some good results at times but even those games we haven't played well.


5.) 15 Oct 2021 08:46:58
To be honest DB I think the jan window is more important to shift players on rather than buy more. If ole is not gone by jan then I'd advise the club to spend nothing but get rid of the likes of Jones Jesse mata martial Fred and Henderson.
Build a pot for the summer and a proper manager.
Vdb should go if ole stays so should cavani imo.


6.) 15 Oct 2021 08:53:58
Its been grim Obi for sure.
You are not alone rosspique is a supporter and Cheshire red is another but he could be Joel glazer in disguise as he roams the corridors of power and has copies of oles blueprint for the future??.


7.) 15 Oct 2021 09:32:11
2 points off the top so on paper he looks like he's doing an acceptable job.

But we all know that comes with huge caveats.

Weve played well in one game this season, that being the first one.

Weve been hugely fortunate that both west ham (Antonio) and everton (Richarlison/ DCL) and maybe newcastle (Wilson) didn't have their starting strikers fit otherwise we could easily be mid table.

Add into the fact that our run of fixtures up until december are incredibly difficult, Its hard to see us being near the top after that and i think Ole will be under huge pressure like LVG and Mourinho eventually succumbed to.


8.) 15 Oct 2021 09:44:47
I don't think Ole is necessarily the right man for the job, although I'd really like to see him with a midfield capable of playing his preferred formation. Yet I don't think making a move for the wrong replacement is any better. I don't think any manager would fair much better with the midfield issues as well as the strength of the opposition. So I wouldn't be against Ole being sacked, if, and only of, the person to replace him can continue the positives he has brought to the club's structure and play a better brand of football, which is not a given given the midfield.


9.) 15 Oct 2021 10:28:19
I've come to the conclusion that Ole is sadly falling short of what we need, and as such it would be best for the club to look for a replacement.

That said I respect that Ole is doing his best and has the club's best interests at heart.

While he remains in the job I will support him and the club even if I feel another manager could do better. Although I no longer feel that the club will achieve our ambitions with him as manager, I see no benefit from booing him, from creating a negative atmosphere around the club.


10.) 15 Oct 2021 10:36:06
Very difficult to see how he keeps his job at the end of the season if he hasn't won anything and the chnaces of that are very slim.

Million dollar question of course who would you get in his place, who wants to come, availability etc etc.


11.) 15 Oct 2021 10:36:40
I still like the manager. Yes, he's go his limitations, but he's still done better at getting the whole squad/ club pulling in the same direction than anyone since SAF, and that's worth a lot considering where we've been in recent years. Give him the season and see if he can make it gel. I think the (surprise) Ronaldo signing changes our whole team dynamic, and that, and Rashford's absence, has affected what were some blossoming on pitch relationships. Yes, we've been pretty rubbish for a few games, but we also have an awesome front line, so at least it's fun to see if we can get a few if them firing at once. Sancho is going to need time to get up to speed and it's good that he's got Ronnie to take the spotlight off him.


12.) 15 Oct 2021 11:16:00
No-one really complained when he was first appointed full-time. And why should they? As caretaker manager, Solskjaer won his first eight matches, 10 of his first 11 and 14 out of 19 in all before being appointed permanently. It seemed logical at the time to assume things could continue at a similar trajectory and he seemed to have the backing of the Utd faithful.
Since then the general clamour seems to be that Utd were mistaken to appoint someone who'd won nothing, allowing the belief that appointing a club legend who 'got the club' was the right thing to do. Chelsea did the same. Arsenal did, for a while. Ole is the only one still standing, running on his positive fumes.
My fear over appointing someone like Potter is that should things go south for a few months, the calls for his head will soon arise, again questioning the appointment of someone yet to win much at all, let alone win at the level a club of Manchester United's size demands.
Conte will run them into the ground within two seasons, although I'd expect an immediate improvement. I figure he'd create much of a vibe that Mourinho did. An initial buzz followed by negativity and that dreaded curse of all managers, 'losing the dressing room'.
I really don't know who there is that can do this job. There were a few unglamorous yet successful managers like Ancelloti and Benitez available recently who could have done something. Ten Hag would require a complete shift in structure and style to even attempt to replicate his Ajax model (and is potentially in line to do this at Barcelona) .
If Ole crumbles under this run of 10 games, I'd expect another caretaker manager or Phelan to continue until things are clearer at season end.


13.) 15 Oct 2021 10:03:39
Hi Dodgy

I’m still supportive of him and the team but I fear he has run out of ideas and the sentimental dream is coming to an end. However, I don’t agree with the ‘he’s completely useless’ point of view.

He had an amazing run when he joined, got the job, and then had an appalling run, this seems to be a recurring theme of his tenure. We have a far better and deeper squad although midfield remains an issue for whoever is in charge.

People have short memories. LVG was awful, I actually stopped watching us it was that bad, Jose brought some success and it looked like he might achieve more but had his usual meltdown. there have been some good times under Ole but he has been found wanting in the big games and has become wedded to the same formation and players, no imagination or tactical tweaks.

We have a good team and a strong squad, it seems we have great team spirit and from the outside looks a pretty happy camp. I would love Ole to prove he can deliver but I don’t think he will. I suspect things will unravel pretty quickly and given the teams we have played so far, our League position is probably false. I think he will finish in the top 4 but wouldn’t bet where.

Finally, and probably contentiously, I think there are plenty who are supportive of Ole, whether they are on here or not. However, there is little point being supportive on here, as you have found out the same posters will tell you very clearly why you are wrong. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!


14.) 15 Oct 2021 10:05:26
Dodgy,

Don’t take a step back mate, it’s good to come on here and read opposite opinions and appreciate how other people see it. You might be the only one on that’s posting on here but you certainly aren’t the only one in real life, Ole still has plenty of support even if it’s wavering because of the performances.

I’d argue like Ken says that if you can’t see the positives over the last 3 years then you are deliberately ignoring them or also know nothing about the game, just like if you can’t see the negatives just the same. I’d say it’s probably the former rather than the latter as to post on here we clearly love the game and know a lot about it and the irony is unreal.

I think the players we have now should be playing a lot better than they are, the performances have not been good this season and Ole is showing that he doesn’t know how to get the best out of the current squad. We have made good signings but too many in attacking positions and it’s left us totally unbalanced and having to leave too many important players out each week but also leaving weaker players in the middle. Time is running out but he needs to find a system that works very quickly and prove us all wrong, if he can do that in the next few days / weeks he will keep his job for the season and we might even challenge, if he doesn’t we will see ourselves mid table, out of Europe and probably with a new manager by Christmas.


15.) 15 Oct 2021 12:54:57
I'm with GDS2 on this one, I will always support the manager whilst he is at the helm of our club. Although it does seem he is completely out of his depth anything can happen, I would give him until Christmas and see where we are then.


16.) 15 Oct 2021 13:15:16
Akh you are still supportive of him? Really?
So you changed your mind since last week?
I know you like a moan about a moan but you posted below last week you would like to see him replaced but you support him today? What did he do in international week to change your mind? Just curious. You may have been on the wine again who knows.
From your post last week
I’d like to see Ole replaced but I’m not losing sleep about it and I hope the teams form pick up and we start winning games. If we do, great. If we don’t then hopefully a change will be made sooner rather than later.


17.) 15 Oct 2021 13:37:08
Did you read my post ken, I think how I feel is pretty clear?


18.) 15 Oct 2021 14:37:24
Yeah you support him but you don't.


19.) 15 Oct 2021 15:00:30
I assume he read the first 5 words after Hi Dodgy haha.


20.) 15 Oct 2021 15:32:52
I support him whilst he is our Manager, when the team plays I want them to win. However, I think it’s time for him to go as the team is stagnant or even going backwards. Clear enough?


21.) 15 Oct 2021 18:13:32
I enjoyed reading the responses, a few positive voices! I read this page every day, but at times it get stuck in a loop.

Of course I know there are alternative views, and I don't want to take those views away, but slowly as the positive voices get quieter it gets quite imbalanced on the site.


22.) 15 Oct 2021 10:03:39
Hi Dodgy

I’m still supportive of him and the team but I fear he has run out of ideas and the sentimental dream is coming to an end. However, I don’t agree with the ‘he’s completely useless’ point of view.

He had an amazing run when he joined, got the job, and then had an appalling run, this seems to be a recurring theme of his tenure. We have a far better and deeper squad although midfield remains an issue for whoever is in charge.

People have short memories. LVG was awful, I actually stopped watching us it was that bad, Jose brought some success and it looked like he might achieve more but had his usual meltdown. there have been some good times under Ole but he has been found wanting in the big games and has become wedded to the same formation and players, no imagination or tactical tweaks.

We have a good team and a strong squad, it seems we have great team spirit and from the outside looks a pretty happy camp. I would love Ole to prove he can deliver but I don’t think he will. I suspect things will unravel pretty quickly and given the teams we have played so far, our League position is probably false. I think he will finish in the top 4 but wouldn’t bet where.

Finally, and probably contentiously, I think there are plenty who are supportive of Ole, whether they are on here or not. However, there is little point being supportive on here, as you have found out the same posters will tell you very clearly why you are wrong. RELEASE THE HOUNDS!


23.) 15 Oct 2021 10:05:26
Dodgy,

Don’t take a step back mate, it’s good to come on here and read opposite opinions and appreciate how other people see it. You might be the only one on that’s posting on here but you certainly aren’t the only one in real life, Ole still has plenty of support even if it’s wavering because of the performances.

I’d argue like Ken says that if you can’t see the positives over the last 3 years then you are deliberately ignoring them or also know nothing about the game, just like if you can’t see the negatives just the same. I’d say it’s probably the former rather than the latter as to post on here we clearly love the game and know a lot about it and the irony is unreal.

I think the players we have now should be playing a lot better than they are, the performances have not been good this season and Ole is showing that he doesn’t know how to get the best out of the current squad. We have made good signings but too many in attacking positions and it’s left us totally unbalanced and having to leave too many important players out each week but also leaving weaker players in the middle. Time is running out but he needs to find a system that works very quickly and prove us all wrong, if he can do that in the next few days / weeks he will keep his job for the season and we might even challenge, if he doesn’t we will see ourselves mid table, out of Europe and probably with a new manager by Christmas.


24.) 15 Oct 2021 18:39:14
Ajh everybody wants the team to win. But I also want the manager gone as I don't think they will win enough to be successful under him.
So while I support the team I don't support the manager and I won't pretend to
If you want him gone how can you support him?


25.) 15 Oct 2021 18:58:28
Ole has taken the club as far as he could.
But now after assembling a quality squad, we need a top quality manager to take us to the next step.


26.) 15 Oct 2021 19:44:23
Ken, do you WANT the manager to do well?

Or do you want him to fail?


27.) 15 Oct 2021 20:43:50
Because he’s our Manager, not everyone sees thing as black and white.

{Ed014's Note - I defo support him ?


28.) 15 Oct 2021 20:53:05
I want him out simple as that. If the team do well he won't be but so far the team have not done well so I don't believe he deserves anymore time. He has failed to date and so have the team so he had been a complete failure to date so he should be fine imo.


29.) 15 Oct 2021 21:30:37
Ken, will you boo him tomorrow? Or cheer him and the team on?


30.) 15 Oct 2021 22:23:16
I always cheer the team on shappy. But i do not support the manager in the very same way as you wanted our previous manager out but still didn't want the team to lose.
If the team do well i'm delighted I don't come critising the team after any win and don't look to pick holes because even poor wins which we've had are still wins.
If the team do well then I won't have the need to call for him to be fired. He has the opportunity to change my opinion he's had it for 3 years. In my opinion he is holding us back and has been for 2 years.
I do not see any substantial contribution the he has made since taking the job. I have a complete bias against him being our manager I don't hide that. Again much the same as you have against our previous manager. So you know exactly what its like to support the team but not the manager.


31.) 16 Oct 2021 01:17:47
I don’t think not supporting the manager - in our minds and on social media- of our club ever actually helps the club. Perhaps if you could attend every game you could with thousands others create an atmosphere for change. I fully support Ole as I think supporting has a better chance that the manager and the teams win games.

Like everyone here, I might be wrong of course. To me it’s more fun supporting the team and a manager and hope they win than any other way. So till he’s there, I support him.


32.) 16 Oct 2021 06:28:13
Who’s a feasible replacement though?

Zidane risky and unproven here, Conte is Jose, and frankly not a huge list of great available managers.


33.) 16 Oct 2021 09:16:51
spenno

I think you should note that I said at the time we should not appoint Ole from being temp to perm. I have said before but in any other job you need relevant experience and have credentials, Ole didn’t so I was very against his appointment. We basically jumped to appoint a temp after dead cat bounce, appalling amateur behaviour.


 

 

09 Oct 2021 15:25:42
I live in canada these days, and it is great to see the utd city ladies game shown on the main sports channel over here. Was a good game, ended 2-2.

DodgyBanter

1.) 09 Oct 2021 16:43:05
Would have been better if it was at OT I think.


 

 

03 Oct 2021 04:45:52
Okay, I know this is not the populist view on the site, but it's my opinion and for the sake of balance and sanity I feel compelled to air it.

There seems to be a general stick to beat Ole with that relates to pattern of play. No idea where this came from, but I find it nauseating everytime I read it. Different coaches / managers have different styles. Some like to manage the player within a tight (even strict) system and some like to give players a platform to express themselves.

I have read so many times that Ole just throws 11 stars out on the pitch and it is his fault they have not played well.

Firstly he is picking the players that go out to play, and of course he and his coaching team send them out with a direction of play. He has said many times in interviews that he want them to play quicker through the lines and attack with width and pace. The "utd way". Against everton we clearly started faster than we have, the team was full of energy and it was working first half, but second they lost their way and got into a dog fight.

I think we have got caught with a squad full of good players that don't quite gel together. I do think they can gel, but they need to play together and learn the combinations that will work. We will improve- sancho is improving, wan Bissaka more effective, fred better after a poor start (no withstanding his awful play for Everton's goal) .

In the future surely the midfield gets upgraded, but we can still compete this year with what we have. I don't agree with this view that Ole should go, the season is just started and we will get better and better. HOWEVER, next 10 games will define whether Ole stays or goes. We have a crazy schedule, tough games in EPL amongst out UCL games, our easiest game is Watford away.

So buckle up and get ready for a defining 10 games. I think utd will come through this test and stay in good place in league and UCL, but then I am an eternal optimist.

Last point, I watch chelsea southampton today, Chelsea were battered by southampton for about 30 mins before JWP dodgy red card, but they ran out 3-1 winners and you could be mistaken for thinking they are infalable. Other teams are also being tested by the so called lesser clubs of the league. The epl is very competitive. Check the table and we are still up there have had slow start.

We may yet suprise a few this year.

DodgyBanter

1.) 03 Oct 2021 05:44:26
Dodgy where can I get these red tinted glasses you are wearing?

Ole and his group of incompetent idiots aren't really coaching anyone that is pretty clear to see from how we have evolved over 3 years now.

Saying I want to play the utd way means nothing, anyone can say that, oh its easy pass quicker, attack with pace, score goals, defend well, come on woody give me the utd job now.

What is he doing to achieve it? We have played 10 games this season, outside of leeds and Newcastle we have looked poor in every single one of them. We don't keep possession, we can't control the game, in defense teams absolutely cut through our mf like it doesn't exist. In attack we don't really create enough chances and have ddg and some individual skill to thank for most of the points we have.

Yes we have a few new players but is it really lack of cohesion that's the problem? Varane has been our best cb since he signed. The inept one has now spent 170mn on defense yet we can't keep a cleansheet even if their life depended on it.

The fake brazilian and rich man's Darren Gibson keep rubbishting the bed every game yet vdb can't get minutes. What has the manager done to change it? He keeps playing the same formation with the same players and expecting a miracle.


2.) 03 Oct 2021 05:48:19
The issue is we probably had the easiest start of all the top 6 clubs. Our last two games have been against teams higher up the league and we have struggled, that does not bode well.
The Everton game we started well, and I thought well we are up for this game, it lasted 10 minutes, by 20 minutes Everton had a foothold in the game and it became more even.

Ole has been in post for almost three years now, if the team still aren't playing his way, quicker balls up front, you have to ask why. You said we have a team that doesn't quite gel, some of these players have been together for a few years, why haven't combinations been put in place so they can gel as a team, Ole isn't a new manager with only a few months under his belt.

Ole has been a good transitional manager and has taken us as far as he can.


3.) 03 Oct 2021 06:18:45
I thought we did play well against everton, they did a smash and grab number. This is the way of the mid table team now, and many big team are falling for it.

Pressure from the fans for sumptuous football, lots of "we shoulds". I think fans are looking at the recent gears of city and liverpool performance and thinking 100 points is needed to win the league.

It is a long hard season and the mid level clubs have learned how to trouble the big boys. Yes they will get spanked occasionally, but they are now very effective and efficient at defending and then exploding on the break.

Anyway, the point of my post was to recognize that this next 10 games will surely define out season. Play badly and we could be out out of almost everything. Under that scenario, with the media and fan unrest then surely Ole will go. But I think we will surprise a few.


4.) 03 Oct 2021 06:22:20
And jesse has more cause to be upset at minutes this season than Donny, he has looked like the difference maker everytime he stepped on the pitch this year, but everyone is just in love with Donny, who has not looked half as good as those in his place.


5.) 03 Oct 2021 07:00:57
Dodgy, yes he has surprised a few with a poor start to the season.
Dumped out of EFL, utter dross performances in CL.
2 points against Villa, Southampton and Everton is just unacceptable with the squad we have.

What more does Ole need?
We have given him time, money, top quality players.
He still hasn't got us an identity even after 3 years.

The favoritism towards players is getting ridiculous.
Fred has been atrocious this season, yet he gets picked always.
Matic and Lingard have been pivotal in setting up wins recently, yet they are hardly getting minutes.

Ole has to go right now so that we can get a real coach to salvage our season.


6.) 03 Oct 2021 07:50:10
TrueRedDevil, probably he himself needs a manager to help him manage the club.

It's time we sign a manager for Ole ?.


7.) 03 Oct 2021 07:55:31
Dodgy, I admire your positivity and like you I hope the season does get better. Over Ole's time I have never wanted him as manager but have always tried to remain balanced. I have tried to praise him for good decisions and tried not to overly criticise him when other factors may be at play. A couple of seasons ago, I'd maybe put tactical mishaps down to new players or not having ones of the quality we'd want, same goes for subs, thinking they weren't being made until late on because there isn't much on the bench. Nevertheless over the last 12 months it's become so clear that the guy is just happy to be there, doing no effective coaching and is winging it.

If you just look at the league table and CL group table you'd probably think our start hasn't been amazing but it's also not been too bad. However, performances have been terrible this season and you can stretch that back to the last couple of months of last season too. Other than the Leeds game (who are perfect for to play against as we are very good on the counter) the last games I can recall where we looked like a team was against City away where we won two nil and Spurs away where we won three one. They were in March and April.

This season, if Wolves could finish and De Gea hadn't made a wonder save we'd have lost, against Southampton the same, West Ham needed a 90th minute goal and 94th minute penalty save, Young Boys was awful, Villa was awful, Villarreal should have beaten us by a couple at least and then yesterday where we didn't create much again over the 90 minutes and again De Gea had to be in top form. We could easily have lost three or four more than we have.

With a squad as good as we have, we shouldn't be performing this badly. Ole has been given a lot of slack, people saying he needed the players. Now he has them and is serving up some extremely disjointed football. Only a couple of clean sheets since March shows a lack of defensive organisation, team selections which baffle fans on a weekly basis, resting players is fine but he didn't do it all of last season and it cost us then just before the international break he rests player should will be called up as if making sure they were 100% for their countries is his role. He is playing players who are out of form and not giving others a chance like Lingard and Donny. Dan James has started more PL games for us this season than either of those and he doesn't even play for us now. Valuing people who can run around rather than those who can actually play football.

If sacked tomorrow I'd be astounded if any club in the PL, La Liga, Serie A or Bundesliga went for him.

This is a Shappy length post and is also a bit of a rant so apologies but the writing is on the wall, if the board want us to win things he must go as soon as possible, if they want us to be battling for 4th and possibly missing out on it then they are doing the right thing in keeping him. I wanted it to work but this nonsense has to end now, get a proper coach.


8.) 03 Oct 2021 08:03:35
Dodgy

I just want to totally debunk your point that Solskjaer plus the Utd way. The Utd way with width and pace. The Norwegian fraud doesn’t play with width, does he? If you watch us we don’t go past full backs or get crosses in. He play narrow, pass it across and inside trying to find gaps to slot balls through. Secondly pace, yes on the break if we are up against Leeds who throw players forward or those who don't crowd central areas. It worked well to begin but now everyone knows our one and only tactic. Pace, well Ronaldo looks like he was dropped to the bench because he said the team needed to play quicker in the opposition half, then compare that Ole said we attacked too quickly against Villa.

The dull rubbish is the worst football since Sexton. Ole 99 tinted glasses are all well and good but he has to go and I will be very frustrated if he remains in place after Sunday, the club is a bunch of dithering amateur accountants but even they must see the mess after three years of a manager who frankly doesn’t have the gravitas or experience for the role. Has to go.


9.) 03 Oct 2021 08:09:40
Dodgy he certainly made a difference with that back pass against young boys. Lol.


10.) 03 Oct 2021 08:33:09
The mid level clubs trouble the big boys. that's true and hence Ole picks up his teams to trouble City, Chelsea and Liverpool. Under Ole we are a mid level club.


11.) 03 Oct 2021 08:49:09
Nice one UA.


12.) 03 Oct 2021 09:16:45
I think dodgy makes a good point the next ten games are pivotal .
Progress in Europe and staying around the top of the table is a requirement, the champions league draw was kind to us and qualification I'd have thought was surely expected .
The league table is condensed and a few bad results will see a big drop in league placement .
Our fixtures look challenging but utd need to come out of them progressing in the champions league and still in and about the title race .
If this duznt happen then people should get their wish and a management change is justified, if we are still near the top and in Europe we will have achieved some good results and it isn't.


13.) 03 Oct 2021 09:20:28
Dodgy everton did not do a smash and grab. Xg for the game was utd .92 vs everton 1.28 and that is without including the offside goal because thankfully davies decided to pass instead of shoot. Our team just got outcreated by a rafa benitez team at OT without their best players.


14.) 03 Oct 2021 09:45:14
If the top club bite the bullet and came to us to get a draw, we will not win any game.
Tuchel did that, Klopp and Guardiola hardly do that, but I won't be surprised if they decided they will happily take a draw and set up a little more defensively.


15.) 03 Oct 2021 14:13:05
72% possession
6 shots on target to their 2
10 corners to their 1

Everton did not out create us. We needed to be sharper and more clinical in the final third. We got sucker punched twice on the break. The goal and the shot that DDG saved from well outside the area. We then had a mare in the second phase from a their one corner. Are we pleased with another draw? Hell no, but we did play well, we did create some good chances and looked better and sharper.


16.) 03 Oct 2021 15:02:53
DodgyBanter, how many big saves did Pickford make in that match? I remember the one from Cavani header then.

From that 72% possession, 6 shots and 10 corners how many clear cut chances did we create?


17.) 03 Oct 2021 16:55:36
Dodgy you funny how you mention the 6 shots on target but not the actual number of shots both teams had, but then i suppose 6 vs 2 does fit the we were better spin than 13 v 12.

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17 Sep 2021 03:34:52
A few may not like this. but here goes.

I watched the game a day late, after reading the comments on this site. I was picturing a disaster.

Honestly, the over reaction on here is crazy.

Before to the goal we looked okay. Away fixture, plastic pitch. I thought we looked the best team, looked coherent and like we would win the game. Yes, a couple of plays resulted in snap distance shots from YB, but we would have won with 11 men.

The red was bad control from an inexperienced Obe Wan. He has to be better. But he will learn from this, better now than in the knockout rounds.

Two fouls on ronaldo, pen and outside the box. Yes, they are soft, but shoving someone over in the back is still a foul. Fred should charge before one of their shots was also a 50% of the time foul. All 3 were not outrageous not to get them, but the type that you get as the home team.

Fred looked back to a better version of himself. He had more than a few good pieces of play both in the deeper 6 role and later the 8 when Matic played deeper.

Ole was a fool. No, I'm sorry, but apart from the lingard sub - which I would honestly choose lingard ahead of Martial in the same situation, and the Martial sub, with a few minutes to go, the set up looked okay.

The starting teM was what people were asking for, varane, ronny, Sancho and VDB all starting. I saw someone question should ronny and Pogba have come off instead of sancho and Donny. I mean come on, really?

Pogba was described as doing no work. Again, no. He has been much stronger this season, and again put a shift in.

Back 5. Ole said himself, he was trying to nullify their biggest threat of wide forwards. Funny that their first goal (by 2 deflections on cross) came from a wide forward. Ole had put the formation out to deal with that and the players didn't get it done.

Jesse backpass. It happens. It was stupid and the guy clearly feels deeply upset that he did that. He held his hands up and deserves the fans support, criticism yes, but he has always given 100% and has earned support following such a clear and obvious mess up.

I realise this is a long shopping list of excuses. But my point here really is simple. Sometimes in a season you are going to have games that don't go you way. That was ours. Now we need a reaction, after the highs of saturday we need to get back to that good feeling. Tough game at the weekend, but I expect us to go and perform. Ole and the coaches and the leaders in the team need get them all up for a fight. I'm expecting each player to play like 1.5 guys and we turn in a very good performance.

It is a long season and that 1 game will not burst my bubble.

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1.) 17 Sep 2021 04:16:36
You said it yourself. "EXCUSES"


2.) 17 Sep 2021 06:15:02
Dodgy, Ole has given nothing but excuses for 4 years.
He has been given everything - time, money, top class footballers.

It is upto him to utilize the resources and get results and importantly TROPHIES.

Chelsea went down to 10 men against Liverpool at Anfield. But still they grinded out the result with a clear tactical plan.
Ole is just embarrassing us with atrocious football that doesn't suit the United DNA.


3.) 17 Sep 2021 07:05:10
Before we scored we couldn't string 5 passes together, again it was hard to see any plan or pattern in our play.

Saw a bit of West Ham V dinamo Zagreb last night, similar quality to Young Boys, top of their league won 4 drew 1 of their last 5 - Hammers went at them from the first minute -yep David Moyes team - silenced a rowdy crowd and you could see a hard working Hammers team full of confidence - just one example of a well drilled team doing well.

Im wondering how long before Ronaldo and Varane, Cavani start thinking "whats our plan here, playing style and tactics here fall short of what i'm used to. "


4.) 17 Sep 2021 07:18:17
3 days and that's the best load of bolloxollogy you can come up with.
Can't wait till he is fired taking us backwards with every day that passes.
Ole wole useless.


5.) 17 Sep 2021 09:37:53
If you look back to when SAF was manager we would usually have a game or two per season where we just played dreadfully. We'd be away at Middlesbrough and lose 3 or 4 nil. These happen.

The issue is these losses were once a season and didn't look like happening very often other than that. Under Ole, we are never far from this sort of result. Performance levels are lower than this group should be providing. We've played 5 games this season, Leeds was a deserved win, Newcastle was a pretty even game for well over an hour and the other 3 (1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss) could have all been losses based on how we played in those games and not had De Gea making a couple of fantastic saves late on vs Wolves and Southampton.

While individuals will make mistakes and that is entirely unavoidable, this should not absolve Ole of blame. He has spent as much as anyone in Europe across his tenure, he's signed an entirely new first 11 effectively, he's also had good youth players like Greenwood and Henderson bolster that squad. The squad is in the best shape it has been for years and simply isn't producing the performances this squad should be capable of. This simply has to be down to Ole and the coaching staff.


6.) 17 Sep 2021 10:59:09
I think if it stayed 11v11 then United would have won.

That said we should have enough quality and ability to get a result even down to 10 men against sides like Young Boys. Especially if we are already winning 1-0 when we go down to 10 men.

For me the real issue isn't that we lost, but the absolute car crash in terms of tactical decisions from the moment AWB got his marching orders.

While none of the players particularly covered themselves with glory that game was lost on the sidelines and not on the pitch.

Sitting deeper and deeper and inviting the opposition onto us while not having the quality to hold on to the ball was suicide. Rule 101 when down to ten men you need to keep the ball as much as possible. We failed to to that, and even made tactical decisions to give them the ball. Which without a fast pacy forward players who can break into the space created behind them gave us no out ball and no real reason to invite them onto us.


 

 

 

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16 Sep 2021 23:07:30
My only negative comments about Pogba is his lack of effort on the pitch. The bad body language. No tracking back or covering.

This season he has looked much better. Far happier. Even in a midfield 2 he has looked good. Okay, an occasional slip up defensively is expected, happy for him to make up for that in the attacking 3rd. But there were periods last year when he was a liability, and totally unprofessional.

If he wants to stay, and is all in, then I would sign him up and then we need to solve the DM position. He was one of my least favourite players, but he is winning me over.

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01 Sep 2021 02:35:07
The front 4 options are incredible, and you didn't mention DvdB, Amad, Elanga, Martial. Crazy.

Lindelof and Bailly as reserve CBs

Our squad is stacked.

I actually like McT and Fred surrounded by this team, I am concerned when they can't play. I HOPE McTom and DvdB play together and create something new, I can see Scotty having the physicality height and field coverage to play well with Donny. He needs to be a bit more disciplined.

I think we will suprise a few non believers this year, we could pull it off. The league is very strong, be tough for anyone to win this year.

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30 Aug 2021 23:41:59
He didn't even look that quick recently. I know he gets "clocked" as one of the fastest players, but with my eyes I rarely look at him running next to a full back and think WOW he's fast.

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30 Aug 2021 23:32:01
He seems overawed at man utd, maybe a move to a small club will serve him well 😏.

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25 Aug 2021 01:59:14
I think Ed001 has Yacht insurance on Ed002, incase there is a window ending wordcount injury suffered when reading one of Shappy's posts.

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16 Oct 2021 14:55:30
Compare his stats to Walkers, he stacks up quite well against who I would say is a good comparison at city.

TAA played in a Liverpool team that play 3 in CM and ask their full backs to bomb forward. It is also the main focus of his game, so liverpool find a way to accommodate it.

I do think Bissaka is improving going forward. With ronny and cavani in the box I would expect more assists and chances created this year.

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16 Oct 2021 14:26:53
I only flicked the game on for 5 mins, so that was all I saw. Not at all a gripe about the performance, or whether it affected the game.

This decision that a cross to an offside player is not offside until the ball gets to them is just horrible. What are defenders supposed to do? They can't leave the ball and just hope the flag goes up. It is just plain wrong, a player can be "active" without ultimately touching the ball.

Sounds like Liv played well then? Not easy to do straight after international break, so fair play to them.

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15 Oct 2021 18:13:32
I enjoyed reading the responses, a few positive voices! I read this page every day, but at times it get stuck in a loop.

Of course I know there are alternative views, and I don't want to take those views away, but slowly as the positive voices get quieter it gets quite imbalanced on the site.

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14 Oct 2021 03:50:33
We're all doomed! Be afraid!

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14 Oct 2021 00:17:05
Not a ball has been kicked, but some on here seem to have whipped them selves up into a frenzy. We are level in points with City, 1 off Liverpool, 2 off the top. I get that you want to write these overly long and eloquent posts to somehow show off on the site DLIB, but some of the nonsense written there is ridiculous.

The coaching staff will surely be "plotting" how to win a bunch of games in a very difficult spell. Not for nefarious means, not to spite all the Ole Out brigade on here, but because it is their jobs.

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