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31 Mar 2020 14:24:01
This one is mainly for the Eds and thanks for keeping the site going.

Do you think that in view of the economic downturn due to the pandemic this will be reflected in transfer deals being agreed at much lower valuations than many would otherwise have expected. Also are Utd in a strong position possibly even in a hugely financial advantageous position with theor resources which will allow them to get deals done that lots of other clubs just won't be able to afford. Or do you see the likes of Liverpool / City/ Chelsea/ Barca/ Madrid / PSG/ Bayern also being financiallybsteong enough to compete too.

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{Ed002's Note - The impact will be at a lower level. Some higher profile clubs have to balance the books and don’t have the cash to simply add players. There area few cash rich clubs who are in a better position.}


1.) 01 Apr 2020 00:09:26
Thanks Ed Also are you aware of any serious interest in players below Premier League level who Utd are or were considering pre Corona virus. Am thinking about someone like Dan James.

{Ed002's Note - There are a few kike Bellingham but I am not going to get in to whether or not MU will now be looking for a bargain.}


2.) 01 Apr 2020 21:58:07
Thanks again for the reply. Wasnt so much as asking about bargains more if there were players whom the majority of supporters would not have thought about as being of interesting to Utd but actual have or are being considered.

{Ed002's Note - have mentioned those that there has been interested in - you would need to ask the supporters if they have the hots for them.}


 

 

01 Mar 2020 21:21:42
Wonder what you all made of Grealish's performance today against City. I know he is in a team which is not great and was heavily marked but I was not inspired by his performance. I do have my doubts as to how good he really would be for us if we signed him.

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1.) 01 Mar 2020 21:37:15
Still rather have Maddison.


2.) 01 Mar 2020 23:10:49
Backup for fernandes?


3.) 02 Mar 2020 06:26:13
Do not get it at all. Not what we need.


4.) 02 Mar 2020 18:09:12
I would much rather get Maddison.


 

 

16 Feb 2020 21:27:30
Ed 02. You seem more well informed than most of us about football in general. Do you believe City's ban will be upheld by the CAS?

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13 Feb 2020 13:44:00
Amazing how Chelsea can get a deal done ready for a very talented player at a price which is moderate in today's over inflated transfer market. meanwhile Utd get taken to the cleaners nearly every time. More importantly Ziyech seems to be exactky the type of player we have been crying out for since I don't know when. I know it's a big step up from the Ere Divisie but surely worth a punt. ED 02 probably knows if we had any interest and if so why we couldn't land him but even if there was no interest it still shows poor we are at recruitment.

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{Ed002's Note - The agreement with Chelsea shows nothing about Manchester United at all. The club has never been interested in Ziyech. Are you going to say this about every player that moves between other clubs?}


1.) 13 Feb 2020 14:04:41
I had a bet with myself that somebody would post this nonsense on here today, I won :)


2.) 13 Feb 2020 15:29:03
You seem to do that quite a lot GDS. But is it actually possible to lose a bet with yourself?


3.) 13 Feb 2020 15:58:39
Once GDS made a bet with himself that it would be the last bet he made with himself.


4.) 13 Feb 2020 16:37:56
To be fair as soon as the news broke of the Ziyech deal I remember thinking how long until someone mentions Chelsea getting a deal done and not us.

The real irony of it is that in January we made TWO signings while Chelsea didn't sign anyone. Bare in mind that was on the back of them not being able to sign anyone last summer either. In theory they have had 6 months to organise a deal or two for January and they only manage to get the deal agreed in the second week of February.

Could you imagine the backlash had that been us. There'd have been planes flying banners, burning effigies, marches and at least two new "United" football club's formed as well as multiple deaths of old ladies across Manchester, worked to death knitting green and gold scarves.


5.) 13 Feb 2020 16:51:14
I seen to remember Ed suggested he came with some baggage which might have put other Clubs off maybe?


6.) 13 Feb 2020 17:34:56
That’s my worry with trying to sell Lingard in the summer, he comes with a lot of baggage from his new JLingz travel line.


7.) 13 Feb 2020 22:58:18
I'm sure a lot of clubs will try to get some business agreed before the euros kick off.


8.) 13 Feb 2020 23:54:56
With respect Ed 02 I disagree. Regardless of whether or not you or I rate him as a player or whether Utd wanted him or not the fact is that Chelsea have not paid a huge amount for a talented player. It remains to be seen how good he really is however Chelsea and well run clubs Liverpool seem to focus on who they want, don't always have to pay extortionate fees and don't wait until the last days of a transfer window to sign a player.

{Ed002's Note - How can Chelsea buying a player have any relevance to Manchester United at all. And what makes it easier for Chelsea? They don't have to deal with a toxic fanbase.}


9.) 14 Feb 2020 10:00:06
I agree with ken. Most clubs will attempt to get the bulk of their deals done before the Euro's kick off as it is always hard to arrange deals while players are away with their national sides. Afterwards there is always a mad scramble, often confused by players who have been exceptional in the international tournament. I think the euro's this summer is half the reason why clubs voted to push back the summer transfer window.


10.) 14 Feb 2020 11:39:56
Poborski 😁.


11.) 14 Feb 2020 14:02:35
He deserved his place in the team on the merits of his hair alone Steve.


12.) 14 Feb 2020 14:05:56
There's a good interview in FourFourTwo with Poborsky recently about why his United career didn't workout.
He looked a world beater at Euro 96!


13.) 14 Feb 2020 20:11:39
Always seemed a nice bloke. Rabbit caught in the headlights look about him. Lovely hair, tho.


 

 

04 Feb 2020 21:59:39
Not Man Utd related but just watching Match of the Day and Oxford just scored a cracking second goal to force extra time against Newcastle. It's a proper cup toe with great atmosphere. Who said the F A Cup is dead.

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1.) 05 Feb 2020 08:24:38
Some cracking goals second half and great atmosphere too.


2.) 05 Feb 2020 08:54:52
Unfortunately I think the FA Cup is a dying duck, it matters little to the prem teams, I mean even clubs like west ham would rather finish a place higher up the league than win a cup for example such as the money available, fa cup is probably on a par with the league cup.
If you look at the prize money too it is dwarfed by what you get in the prem. The FA Cup needs some sort if incentive and a CL place up for grabs for the winners, that will give it a boost imo.


3.) 05 Feb 2020 10:12:22
I think we need it to be about matches like last night. Money should not always be the main motivation. You don't judge a player at the end of his career by how much he has in the bank. You ask him what medals and trophies he won. That's why for all their greatness people like Shearer must have some regrets. The F.A. Cup has given us some of the most iconic moments in football.

I actually think making it rely on a champions league place to attract stronger teams isn't where we need to go. Let's look at the next round Utd v Derby. Rooney will be desperate to win he won't need the carrot of another prize beyond beating us.


4.) 05 Feb 2020 11:12:21
Unfortunately premier league teams are motivated by money. Lower league teams take the cup more seriously but prem teams don't so much, I don't know how you would gain the prestige for the tournament back for teams to take it more seriously without an incentive for them.


5.) 05 Feb 2020 11:56:18
Simple, clubs are motivated by the riches and prestige of playing in Europe.

Ask yourself this as a United fan would you rather finish fourth and not win the FA cup or win the cup and finish fifth?

So the solution is to shake up the cups by giving a European place to the winners. If the winners of the FA cup got the fourth UCL place instead of finishing 4th in the league then EPL teams will take the FA cup much more seriously.

With the league cup I would give the winners a Europa league place, but to make it more interesting and to make sure teams are being over worked I would not allow teams competing in Europe either in the Europa league or UCL not allowed to compete in the league cup.

If the winners of the cups have qualified for Europe by league position then the runners up in the cup get it. If both have then it can revert back to league position.

Boom, both cup competitions now really mean something.


6.) 05 Feb 2020 12:28:21
That isn't going to work because it's a league cup where all teams from the premier league to league two take part. You can't exclude teams from the tournament if they are playing in Europe. Crazy idea.


7.) 05 Feb 2020 13:40:27
Damon, Pep and many other managers of the top teams feel that playing in two domestic cups makes it tough for the teams competing in Europe.

As it is most teams competing in Europe tend to send out their squad players until the the semi finals as they can't afford to have their first choice players play these games.

Surely it is better for our league and our national team if the teams competing in Europe don't play in FOUR competitions and spread their squad too thin. When a top side send out the fringe players in a cup it devalues the competition and reduces the quality of it.

By those teams not competing in the league cup their players will be fresher during the season to push further in the European competitions. And hopefully fresher for international tournaments for the national side as well.

While replacing teams like ourselves, City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs from the league cup with a genuine chance of getting in to Europe would in my opinion increase competition in the league cup as teams chase a genuine chance of money and glory.


8.) 05 Feb 2020 14:02:18
Any player who’d rather finish 4th than win a cup is not a proper footballer.


9.) 05 Feb 2020 15:35:53
Glad Shappy is on board with the CL place for the winners.
Makes sense to me as a lucrative enough prize to make teams take it seriously again.
For me I would rather win cups than the 4th place award but as I stated in my OP clubs look to the riches so as it stands 4th or a league position is more important than both domestic cups.


10.) 05 Feb 2020 17:22:20
Man City have dominated the league cup competition though the last few years. They are professionals I'm sorry its absolutely ridiculous the excuses which are made up for players nowadays there's no wonder why they are all so soft. They are paid an obscene amount of money and cup competitions are all part of the game. It should be seen as a positive not a negative. You only have to play two games as a top club and you are in the quarter finals.


11.) 05 Feb 2020 18:57:13
Agree Damon. Its all about winning trophies. We generally only have 3 or 4 shouts a year. Should try to win them all.


12.) 06 Feb 2020 11:50:03
Damon, Man City are also the only team in the league who could field their second 11 all season and still expect to comfortably finish in the top four. That plays a big part into why they dominate it, yet they have still failed to advance to the final in the UCL, despite having on paper the strongest first 11 and the strongest squad in the EPL. Yet last season both Spurs and Liverpool made the UCL final.

The difference was that both Liverpool and Spurs exited the domestic cups fairly early and were able to keep their first team players fitter and fresher for the UCL.

Maybe if you can have 22 players of a high enough standard to play in the first 11 then you can attempt to win all 4 competitions and have a chance.

But is that best for the game? Do we really only want to see one or two teams win every every year because they are the only ones capable of building a squad deep enough to do so? Also how does that effect young players coming through? If a side has 22 full internationals is there space for that talented 18 year old to get a few games and make their way into the side? Jadon Sancho had to leave City and when did Phil Foden last play for them?

Three competitions is enough for any side to be in, most other clubs around the world don't compete in more than three competitions.


 

 

 

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18 Mar 2020 19:49:46
Let's be honest nobody has any idea when "normal" life can resume. The football authorities are just as ignorant as us.

Maybe the best way forward is for there to be a three or four week period of friendlies amongst English clubs as soon as the all clear from the virus is given. This will give teams time to get match fitness.

Then let the leagues resume until final positions are decided. Then depending on how much time is left in what would have been a regular season but with teams playing each other only once. Half of a teams matches woukd be home and half away. Their would be an end of season champion for each division and promotion and relegation decided as normal. No one could complain as the rules would be clear to all from the outset.

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12 Mar 2020 22:07:22
I don't mind if they have to. Lives matter more than a game. I just hope that all parties to the game get together to agree a sensible way forward and how they will decide what happens later so that titles / promotion / relegation issues and the Euros can be played at some future point.

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04 Mar 2020 22:21:54
Even if we got Kane with only Bruno to provide the bullets from midfield I woukd worry.

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16 Feb 2020 20:09:11
Shappy it's different for goalies. Apart from The Milan keeper it is so rare to get young keepers for two reasons. Firstly their position needs a mental maturity that is usually lacking in young players and secondly the very best goalies need to be physically imposing. DDG is rightfully accused of not dominating his box and I am convinced his comparatively slight physique contributes to this.

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16 Feb 2020 15:15:51
ED 02 Maybe someone could talk to Henderson and explain that a lawyer or doctor or engineer has to train for a long time and do an apprenticeship, then practice as a junior before ultimately taking on increasingly more complex, responsible roles. That is a template for long term success. It would not harm Henderson to stay at a club like Sheffield Utd for another season or two.

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01 Apr 2020 21:58:07
Thanks again for the reply. Wasnt so much as asking about bargains more if there were players whom the majority of supporters would not have thought about as being of interesting to Utd but actual have or are being considered.

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{Ed002's Note - have mentioned those that there has been interested in - you would need to ask the supporters if they have the hots for them.}


 

 

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01 Apr 2020 00:09:26
Thanks Ed Also are you aware of any serious interest in players below Premier League level who Utd are or were considering pre Corona virus. Am thinking about someone like Dan James.

Salford7

{Ed002's Note - There are a few kike Bellingham but I am not going to get in to whether or not MU will now be looking for a bargain.}


 

 

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01 Apr 2020 00:12:47
Malaga goomner last time you did that I heard it almost killed you 😂😂.

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24 Mar 2020 12:06:21
Red Seven you are quite right and I actually have two charity boxes at home and every day I try to remember to put some loose change in each. It is surprising how small change adds up over a year. I have taught my now adult children to do the same. It also makes me realise every day to remember that there are people less fortunate than me and I should count my blessings. All of us now should take stick and appreciate how even simple things like going for a walk are so important.

With regard to the amounts paid by clubs and footballers. the point I was trying to make is that by comparison to the average working man like myself what they have donated is almost a token amount. Imagine if all the players in the Premier league donated just one weeks wages!

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23 Mar 2020 22:51:46
I don't mean to be churlish but £50k each from Utd and City is not a huge amount considering their respective incomes. Likewise a player on £300k a week donating £10k or £20k is also not amazing. Neither the clubs or players will really feel the loss of those amounts. I wouls really like to see the clubs and players get together and donate a significant amount eg to help fund the research into beating the virus or to enable unused warehouses to be speedily be converted into equipped hospitals so that non covoid and covoid patients could be kept apart.

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