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22 Nov 2020 23:43:25
If there are any legs in the press stories about Juve wanting Pogba and Inter wanting to swap Fred with Ericsson I would be up for that. Then I would go all out to get Declan Rice to be the new Matic.
{Ed002's Note - (a) They might be interested at the right price. (b) Inter want Eriksen moved on as soon as possible, preferably in January. If Manchester United were interested it would be as a Bruno Fernandes replacement.}
1.) 23 Nov 2020 10:19:05
Last year I was hoping United would sign Eriksen as we need an attacking midfielder. However, Bruno is our best player by a mile and VDB (while not getting much game time so far) is a great replacement for him as well as others in our midfield.
I'd much rather see us sign a defensive midfielder who is an improvement on Fred and Matic. The issue is we have too many players already so adding to that would be a problem.
2.) 23 Nov 2020 10:27:36
What happened with Eriksen Ed? Seems to have lost his way?
{Ed002's Note - It has not worked out and he is not a natural fit in the side and has asked to leave.}
3.) 23 Nov 2020 11:24:25
I like Eriksson. But now with bruno they fill the same role essentially so no need to go for him now.
Although there could all be clubs in for bruno soon enough and he may well get tempted to leave so maybe not a futile link.
4.) 23 Nov 2020 11:31:24
Not to sound too cryptic Ed but do we need to be looking at Bruno Fernandes replacements?
{Ed002's Note - It is not a position Manchester United are looking to add to right now as far as I understand.}
5.) 23 Nov 2020 11:34:44
Ed002 that is probably the second or third time you have mentioned a player being a Bruno Fernandes replacement. Is something going on with Bruno behind the scenes with him may be leaving the club soon?
{Ed002's Note - People keep asking about AM players who would be first choice - the only way that would work is if BF were moving on.}
6.) 23 Nov 2020 12:00:09
Ah ok, understood. Thanks Ed.
7.) 23 Nov 2020 12:39:45
Grass isn't always greener Eric79.
8.) 23 Nov 2020 21:06:54
I’d Eriksen for Pogba.
9.) 24 Nov 2020 00:46:36
Thanks Ed 02 for your reply. Could not Bruno and Ericsson work together a bit like De Bruyne and Silva did for City?
{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}
10.) 26 Nov 2020 11:26:56
He’s even slower than Matic. Finished as a decent player years ago.
13 May 2020 00:01:31
There are rumours that Angel Gomez migjt snub Utds offers and sign for Chelsea. I would be really upset to see such a talented young player leave. He needs a run in the team to prove himself. How can we afford to lose talent like his?
1.) 13 May 2020 00:20:29
Umm probably because he won't sign a contract.
We just signed bruno who everyone is rightly raving about, there are strong links with grealish.
Also for half of the season we had lingard and pereira being chosen ahead of him for every game.
I am not surprised if he wants out and i wish him all the best.
2.) 13 May 2020 04:05:58
All the best to him. Although I don't see him getting much game time at Chelsea either. They have twice the amount of midfielders than we do all around his age looking to break into the first team.
3.) 13 May 2020 08:07:56
The concerns amongst the training staff are about his ability to cope with the EPL physically. Now while superior ability can beat physicality, the player needs to be clever enough to know how to do so. While our coaching staff can see what Gomes is capable of against EPL players every day in training.
This season his competition for places was probably as weak as he will ever have while playing for a top side. An ageing Mata, an out of form Lingard and Andreas Pereira who isn't good enough.
Since the the club have signed Bruno Fernandes and are looking at players like Grealish who would further push Gomes down the peaking order.
He is a clearly talented lad, but he needs to play a season or two of "mens" football either in the championship or in a league such as the Dutch or Portuguese league to develop his understanding and ability to cope physically with a much more demanding style of football.
To that end maybe a move to a club like Chelsea who will invariably loan him out for a year or two might be a good move. Or he will sign a new deal with us and hopefully follow a similar path.
4.) 13 May 2020 09:34:16
Invariably loan him out? Sorry Shappy, but Lampard will give him a chance if he's good enough.
5.) 13 May 2020 09:56:48
RJ28P as would ole but simple fact of the matter is he’s shown nothing when given a chance to warrant more starts.
6.) 13 May 2020 11:00:04
Gomes is very talented, but if anyone has watched him in the u23s especially this season, he’s not warranted a promotion to the first team on those performances. If he goes to Chelsea, good luck to him.
Also you have to ask where he fits in the team? Better player than Andreas and lingard potentially but he’s not really shown much yet. Bruno is top quality so he doesn’t get in there either. I don’t think he’s in the same class as Greenwood either.
A talent, but not sure if he’s going to be as big of a loss as many say.
7.) 13 May 2020 11:52:30
RJ28P, Well that's my point, if he was putting in the performances at United in training then he would be given a chance in the first team.
At United he only had Lingard, Mata and Andreas Pereira to get past before we signed Bruno.
He can play either on the wing or in the No.10 position. Chelsea tend to play either 433 or 4231, so Gomes would be competing for a wide role in a 433 or in any of the three positions between the midfield and the striker in a 4231. So he will be competing with Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Barkley, Pedro and Pulisic. Plus any other players Chelsea sign this summer.
Chelsea have an extensive history of signing young players and loaning them out. Gomes needs games every week, and currently he isn't consistent enough to do that at the top end of the EPL. So he needs a loan wherever he plays next season.
8.) 13 May 2020 13:00:49
RJ Lampard will give him a chance at the expense of whom?
9.) 13 May 2020 14:26:56
Pedro, Willian and Barkley will all likely be gone next season. And with respect, the reason why he isn't playing is because he is running his contract down, like Sancho did at City.
I've watched Gomes a lot (being fortunate enough to have access to a lot of youth games) and he's a talent on par with Hudson-Odoi and Saka if given the consistent minutes.
That said, it seems like the relationship at Utd has soured and it is right for the player to move on.
10.) 13 May 2020 14:48:12
Your right red whisky that goal in pre season against spurs didn’t show any promise. Haha. how many opportunities did he get in the number 10 position with the rest of the 1st 11 also playing.
11.) 13 May 2020 16:32:52
RJ, for the sake of this discussion, let's assume you are right about the three you mentioned. You think Gomes will slot into their MF ahead of Kante, Mount, Pulisic, Loftus, Kovacic, Gilmour, Odoi, Jorgino or Ziyach?
12.) 13 May 2020 17:51:31
Sorry pogthedog he scored one goal in a pre season match. I presume you have unlimited access to the training sessions to say he deserves a chance? Like shappy said if you don’t show enough in training to usurp the likes of pereira and Lingard then there must be a reason why he’s not playing. Ole has been a huge advocate of playing the youth and giving chances. Chong got minutes whilst refusing to sign so I find the idea he’s not playing because of refusing to sign irrelevant.
13.) 13 May 2020 19:32:41
He can certainly play wide in rotation with Odoi, Pulisic and Ziyech. As for pure no. 10s, the only one we have is Ziyech, Mount is better when allowed to sit a little deeper.
14.) 14 May 2020 00:55:21
I like gomes but the lad has reportedly been offered 30k.
Football can be simple, greenwood produced gomes hasn't. 30k and what else should we offer him?
15.) 14 May 2020 00:56:06
My worry is that if teams like Chelsea and Barcelona want to take him what is it that they feel they can get out of him that Ole cannot.
I understand all the points raised by you guys. On one hand if he was performing at a very high level then you would think that he would get a chance to shine in the first team. He is obviously not pulling up any trees but he is young and it must be terribly frustrating if you feel that you do not have rhe managers full confidence and are not going to get a run of games to settle in and prove how good you are.
We are all very happy and surprised at how well an established international £60m player like Bruno has done in such a short time. Yet he has lots of experience and is older than Gomez. Why then do people ezpect a younger player to come into the first team and immediately perform to a high level? Also on the rare times Gomez got a game it was when the team were still struggling. I really do feel he should be given the chance to make it at Utd. I know he is not quite the same player as Grealish but I think he has more natural talent.
For me the way to go would be to give him a decent contract and send him on loan for a season. He would get the games he needs, toughen up physically, and he might appreciate how special it is to have the facilities of and play for Utd. Beckham was loaned out and it didn't hurt his prospects.
16.) 14 May 2020 07:50:19
Salford, the issue is that he clearly hasn't done enough in training to convince he should start ahead of anyone else.
Under other managers you could say that maybe they don't give youth a chance. But Ole has given more than given youth a chance. People also forget that Gomes was given three starts in the Europa League, often against weaker opposition than we play most weeks in the EPL. How did Gomes do in those games? Occasional glimpses of talent, but drifted in and out of the game far too much.
If he can't do it against the likes of Astana then he will struggle against the Everton's, Spurs, Burnley's and Sheffield United's of the EPL.
He is a hugely talented player, but he isn't ready to play at the level we play at. He needs a loan or two in order to develop.
Unfortunately his contact is about to run out and he doesn't want to sign a new deal. Maybe making his debut at 16 has made him inpatient, maybe he has been told he will get more elsewhere.
Who knows. His size will hold him back in the EPL until he learns how to mitigate his lack of physicality. In youth football if you're quick you can avoid physical battles to an extent, but men's football is played at a faster pace, and quick feet alone will not get you out of trouble. You need to read the game well and position yourself in the right areas and be two steps ahead of the opposition.
It's not a case of him just bulking up, although he does look like he could be tackled by a stiff breeze. He needs to learn how to play in the men's game. He is best off doing that on loan as he will need to play 20-30 games a season to start to learn that. He can't get that here with him playing as he has done. So a loan is the solution.
If he signs for Chelsea he will almost certainly leave on loan at some point. As they are in the same boat as us.
If he signs for Barcelona I don't see him getting a huge amount of game time. They don't tend to play with a No.10 so he would be competing for one of the wide forward roles, against Messi, Dembele, Griezmann, Fati and Braithwaite, plus whoever else the club sign this summer. With Neymar being a key target.
He needs a season in the Championship, or to move to a more technical league in Europe on loan. Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium could all be good options.
I hope he makes it, whether that's with us or somewhere else. But it's a long road yet, and he needs to realise that if he is going to make the most of his potential.
17.) 14 May 2020 10:57:20
Sadly for me, Greenwood and Williams aside this is a very underwhelming crop of youngsters, referring to those of the age where they would expect to be getting chances in the first team and making an impression. I've seen Chong the most and he has shown nothing but a haircut I'm afraid. I don't buy the fact that Gomes' size is a problem either but neither has he done enough to suggest that he is any better than the thousands of other kids clubs of this magnitude scout every season. If the tens of thousands he wants every week aren't sufficient let him go, I'm sure we'll resign him for £50m in a few years!
18.) 14 May 2020 15:32:34
Spenno, most young players don't really start to have a regular impact until they are 21/ 22 years old after a season or two as squad players.
In that respect the likes of Rashford and McTominay are starting to reach that level of impact. While Henderson could when he returns from his loan, as could Tuanzebe if he can stay injury free.
However, the likes of Greenwood and Williams are ahead of where they would normally expect for players of their ages. While the likes of Laird, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Chong and Gomes still have huge potential, but are probably a year or two away from making a serious impact in the first team beyond a few games.
That's 12 young players in total who have a chance to make a telling impact in our first team within the next few years. That's insane and at levels not really seen outside of Ajax or Barcelona.
While we have also signed AWB and Shaw who were two of the best young players in the league when we signed them. Dan James from the Championship. While we are chasing players such as Rice, Rodon, Sancho, Bellingham, Grealish etc some of the best young British talent around.
I would say we have two great groups of young players in our squad. The older group of players between the ages of 21-24 including; Henderson, Tuanzebe, AWB, Shaw, McTominay, Rashford, James and Martial.
With a younger group between 17-20 including; Larid, Williams, Dalot, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Mejbri, Gomes, Chong and Greenwood.
Giving us 18 EIGHTEEN! players at our club who have a good chance of making it as at least good squad players, with some of them having genuine world class potential.
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25 Feb 2021 10:01:14
Just want to pay condolences to the family of Liverpool keeper Allison whose father died in a tragic accident in Brazil.
1.) 25 Feb 2021 10:35:22
Me too Salford. He was only 57 i think.
2.) 25 Feb 2021 17:38:57
tragic. Imagine getting that phone call, doesn't bear thinking about. R. I. P.
3.) 25 Feb 2021 18:21:38
Prayers to him and his family.
4.) 26 Feb 2021 11:57:35
Its very sad
He will need time off to come to terms with it.
Particularly sad in these times of C.V. with travel restrictions in place.
24 Feb 2021 21:39:15
I have been watching City a lot trying to see how they could be stopped. / beaten. Seems to me not so many goals come from straight forward down the middle of the park attacks. They use the full width of the pitch even from goal kicks. maybe something we need to do more?
How would you set out to beat them?
1.) 25 Feb 2021 01:27:18
I’d hire Villanelle to take out Dias, De Bruyne, Foden and Mahrez. Then I’d send my Petrie dish of a son into the camp to transmute his latest cold and finally I’d tell Pep there’s a boring person conference in Hawaii that runs until the season is over to get rid of him too.
{Ed077's Note - They've coped very well with any injuries that they have suffered this season , have Man City.
Figuring out how to score against them and cause their defense some issues will be a good starting place for any side thinking about beating Man Cut as they seem to concede very few goals.}
2.) 25 Feb 2021 09:12:46
Ruben Dias has transformed their team. Added the leadership void left by Kompany.
He never stops talking and organizing for the entire game.
Imagine Aguero coming back at the end of the season. They are right up there.
3.) 25 Feb 2021 10:14:07
I'd be tempted to risk keeping 2 players wide at all times, particularly on the side Cancelo plays.
Noting that Cancelo seems to drift inside and almost play in midfield, it does leave space for a wide forward to attack the defence.
Additionally given their high pressing I'd look to pay longer diagonal balls in behind the full backs rather than play out from the back.
4.) 25 Feb 2021 11:00:00
That's part of what makes City so good defensively, their fullbacks tuck in and basically play along side the midfield giving them a narrow 4 man shield with 2 CB's behind. Lots of teams have got around them wide, but then crossing the ball in becomes a problem as they have a packed central defence by the time you've got the ball wide and looked to play it centrally. Unless you have someone like Duncan Ferguson in the box to win the majority of headers you'll struggle to score many that way.
It might be cynical but the best way to score against them might be to run at them and draw fouls, either on the edge of the box or ideally in the box. The only other way is really quick transitions with lots of one touch pass and move football. I don't think we have the players for that personally.
5.) 25 Feb 2021 11:14:50
Diaz was my favourite back then and i wanted him . Ed002 told us that we wanted him and when we asked him who is the best option for the CB role he told us that Diaz is the one.
He is a very good player but their defencive form is not only Diaz to congratulate. I think the main reason is that their press works, the possesion is big and they give little to nothing at opponents. Defence don't have much pressure. Yesterday i think until 50-60 minute they didn't even gave Glandbax a single shoot and a single corner while the day before they gave 1 corner and one two shoots at Everton.
6.) 25 Feb 2021 14:28:18
I think for us is to play to our strengths which mainly is counter attacking football. It could be a good game for Dan James to start on the right and Rashford on the left. I'd also be tempted to start Matic as he does a good job of dropping as a 3rd CB and has a much better range of passing than Fred although the trade off is losing Fred's energy. We need to play with plenty of width and hopefully we can pin cancello back and nullify his effectiveness higher up the pitch. In Cavani we have an excellent target man who will occupy there CBs and his movement will give them plenty to think about but ultimately its all about how the team perform on the day and implement the plan.
7.) 25 Feb 2021 14:51:55
Cant argue with their quality and form, as for coping very well, they surly played the C.V. card smartly.
{Ed077's Note - bitter "fan" alert}
23 Feb 2021 21:52:33
Been watching Athletico v Chelsea. Will not be an easy game for us this weekend. Chelsea are now very well organised.
On a different note watching Jao Felix makes me wonder if he is given lots of abuse by his fans when as tonight he seems vv quiet and does not affect the game. He was signed for big money and I know he is young but has done nothing special tonight.
1.) 24 Feb 2021 06:08:39
Salford, I probably haven't seen enough of athletic or felix to judge but from the little I've seen I'd say it's down to simeones negative tactics that we don't see much of what felix can do.
2.) 24 Feb 2021 12:22:42
So far its 2-2 in Tuchel v Ole, interestingly the home manager has never won in this match up.
3.) 24 Feb 2021 13:04:33
You may be right wiggy but when Ronaldo was with us at a similar age he was already having a major impact.
{Ed077's Note - but Ronaldo wasn't playing in a defensive side like Felix is.}
07 Feb 2021 22:35:54
City did what we should have done. They attacked Liverpool without fear and went for the jugular at Anfield knowing this Liverpool shorn of their centre backs are not the same team of the past two seasons.
What a missed opportunity when we went there compounded by the loss to Sheffield Utd and two points thrown away yesterday.
City played like the champions they are soon to be.
Klopp and Liverpool made a major mistake not strengthening their defence. At least they will have Van Dyke and Gomez for next season. If we don't sign anyone decent in defence we will have no chance of winning the title.
1.) 08 Feb 2021 08:05:50
i think its clear to see why we are not title challengers and where we need to improve.
these cbs and GK need to be replaced,
2.) 08 Feb 2021 09:36:24
Salford, City were able to go at Liverpool and play a more offensive and open game full in the knowledge that in Dias and Stones they have the best CB pairing in the league this season.
We all talk about the cavaliers all out attacking style of Manchester United, but we too easily forget that we have been able to play that style due to having a very solid defence. Bruce and Pallister early in Sir Alex's time. Then Stam and Johnsen, finally Ferdinand and Vidic.
Also our best sustained periods of dominance (doubles, trebles and back to back titles) all came when those great CB pairings also had a world class keeper at their peak behind them.
Sadly the Chuckle brothers currently at CB with their endless "to me, to you routine" style of defending with a declining DDG behind them means we have a castle built on sand.
We will never be able to implement a consistent attacking approach with the CB's we have currently.
3.) 08 Feb 2021 09:42:26
Agree Bolger but who could we get for a keeper as my choice Oblak would cost an absolute fortune. We definitely need 2 centre half’s with Kuende and Konate being my choices but once again would cost a fortune but I bet they wouldn’t cost the ridiculous £80 million we spent on an oil tanker.
4.) 08 Feb 2021 10:06:11
City also had Alison hand them two goals, whereas against us he made two good saves.
5.) 08 Feb 2021 13:21:03
Shappy and Bolger I have been sayinf the same about our centre backs for years.
Its unrealistic to expect Utd to sell Maguire or use him as a backup given the money they spent on him. It would be admitting they messed up. But we definitely should get at least one top centre half in. I can see Utd buying Koulibaly for say 60m and short term it might help but i would prefer a younger player.
Also until we get another dominating midfielder we will still lose the big games too often. Pogba if he really put his mind to it has the potential but i fear he just lacks that extra bit of desire that Keane and Robson and even Henderson play with.
6.) 08 Feb 2021 13:50:41
The first half was z pretty dull cagey affair to be honest .
Then Allison had a mare and goals change games.
I think people really judge acgame solely on result at times.
7.) 08 Feb 2021 14:14:12
Blackpool Red, I think we should have given Henderson the No.1 spot this season. If you look at the statistics he out performed DDG in the league last season. If given a run of games and with the confidence gained from the backing of the manager he would easily be equal to what we are seeing from DDG currently, if not slightly better but with much more scope to improve and develop.
As for signing some new defenders, I don't think we necessarily have to go out and spend top dollar on the two most expensive CB's we can find. Good scouting can uncover some real gems. Look at Leicester with Wesley Fofana this season, 36m and he instantly looks like one of the top 10 CB's in the league, while at 20 years old he has huge scope to improve. Or Gabriel signed by Arsenal for 27m, which looks a steal.
We could have signed both for around 60m saving 20m on the fee we paid for Harry Maguire.
Liverpool have agreed a loan for Kabak with a 20m buy option for in the summer. Highly rated young player, even if he hasn't proven anything in the EPL yet.
So there are some great bargains out there if you scout well and are prepared to look beyond the obvious players.
One of our best ever CB signings was a 7m signing from Spartak Moscow, no one knew who he was but Vidic went on to become one of our best CB's of the EPL era.
So while players like Dayot Upamecano, Pau Torres or Jules Kounde might come with a 50-60m price tag, we could easily complement them with a well scouted player as well.
There are some great players with huge potential, players like Botman, Badieshille, Carmo, or Medina who could be available for potentially under 30m.
8.) 08 Feb 2021 15:15:16
Salford, If we can get a top CB to play along side Harry as well as maybe getting someone like Declan Rice to protect the back four better then we might be able to limp b for the next couple of years until Harry tips 30 and we can legitimately phase him out.
9.) 10 Feb 2021 11:31:16
Dias looks the business at City.
04 Feb 2021 21:54:08
Spurs were pretty awful tonight. Toothless and lacking creativity. Chelsea had a better shape and looked more likely to score another than Spurs equalise. Tuchel making an impact and Jose.
1.) 04 Feb 2021 22:58:53
I was a big fan fan of jose but he hasn't been the same since madrid .
I thought he was good enough to adapt to united but I was wrong .
United made a mistake going for jose as did madrid, they wanted a sure thing .
But the game has moved on .
Jose was amazing at his peak, but that has passed he us out of date.
2.) 05 Feb 2021 00:39:39
we wanted jose when fergie left. not the shadow.
3.) 05 Feb 2021 10:12:07
Tactically Tuchel can be very clever, his big issue is he is very abrasive and difficult to get along with. Historically Chelsea's dressing room has been a tricky one to keep on side, long term I don't see this as a happy marriage.
24 Nov 2020 00:46:36
Thanks Ed 02 for your reply. Could not Bruno and Ericsson work together a bit like De Bruyne and Silva did for City?
{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}
18 Sep 2020 18:11:00
Jota in talks with Liverpool apparently £35m. Seems cheap. And yet again others strengthen whilst we dither.
18 Sep 2020 18:09:58
I hope it means we get Sarr.
13 Sep 2020 14:23:04
I tbink its unfair to say Bale has no desire to play football. From the outside looking in it seems to me that he does want to play but Zidane does not want him. If that is true and that as various journalists have reported over the years that Bale was frozen out and offered around I can quite believe he might feel insulted.
He has been a fantastic footballer and I think been treated shabbily by Madrid IF the reports are true. You do not win so many titles and become man of the match in a champions league final if you are rubbish.
It may even work in his favour that because he has not played so much latterly he might be able to play at a higher level for longer. A fit Bale would definitely help Utd but I agree with others it should be on a pay per play contract.
25 Aug 2020 11:52:10
So so sad that people post abuse. Has C.V. not taught people anything. especially that we should be nicer to each other and appreciate when others do things for us.
24 Feb 2021 21:02:45
Why would Haarland come to us if he has City or Bayern or Liverpool and even money is no object for Chelski?
They all have better managers and more likely to be trophy winners than us.
I think City will go all out to sign him. He is young and is the type of forward they don't have. In all other positions City two quality players competing.
Harry Kane is not old but he always seems to get injured once or twice a season. He is not old but is unlikely to get much better. Haarland is amazing for his age and with Pep coaching him and with the bullets supplied by De Bruyne and the rest he would get bucket fulls of goals.
24 Feb 2021 13:04:33
You may be right wiggy but when Ronaldo was with us at a similar age he was already having a major impact.
{Ed077's Note - but Ronaldo wasn't playing in a defensive side like Felix is.}
23 Feb 2021 11:49:53
maybe change this part of the website to the Utd Persiflage Page.
22 Feb 2021 23:24:05
He is a very talented player but he will never fulfill his potential unless he learns to work much harder
He will never be a Cavani or Shearer type of centre forward. Right now Rashford is better on the left than Martial.
Martial should go to France or Spain which will probably suit his style of play.
22 Feb 2021 23:19:09
As mentioned above the Glazers have spent plenty funding player acquisitions. Not their fault so much was wasted by people they trusted to have a superior football knowledge to their own. They don't deserve such opprobrium.
If at all possible I would prefer there not to be ground naming rights but of it meant it resultes in a better aquas which consistently won titles then so be it.
{Ed0666's Note - I’m with you I think the Glazers are treated unfairly. What more can they do? They have dished out gazzilions season after season players yet they still get bashed. I don’t get it. By the way I loved the word OPPROBRIUM.