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02 Mar 2022 23:34:16
Ancelotti is being touted as a possible Utd manager. What are peoples thoughts about him?

Salford7

1.) 02 Mar 2022 23:39:31
He’s great.


2.) 03 Mar 2022 05:16:06
Good manager but seems unrealistic. That he’d leave Madrid. Feel like it’s just links to make it seem like we looked other than Poch.


3.) 03 Mar 2022 08:35:54
im still in shock he went everton, they had a top manager and didn't use him.

he could have with some investment and time made them a decent team.


4.) 03 Mar 2022 08:58:58
No thanks, for the job we need done he'd be completely the wrong man.


5.) 03 Mar 2022 10:16:31
Good manager, but I would put him in the same category as Zidane. Someone who is tactically flexible and is good at getting the best out of a team of talented ego's who may have lost a little drive or direction.

Not the kind of manager to perform a rebuild, develop young players, create a distinct style of play etc.


6.) 03 Mar 2022 13:08:42
agree shappy, he's a decent manager but he's a manager of 10-15 years ago

hopefully he's not one of the choices.


7.) 03 Mar 2022 16:53:30
He wasn't on the list of managers that ED002 provided us with.


8.) 04 Mar 2022 23:57:57
Shappy, Good manager, but I would put him in the same category as Zidane. Someone who is tactically flexible and is good at getting the best out of a team of talented ego's. Isn't that exactly what you need?


 

 

02 Dec 2021 22:36:29
So Carrick departs. suggests either he has a potential job offer or that the new manager wants a clean sweep.

Salford7

1.) 03 Dec 2021 02:11:10
I think it’s possible he just wanted a break. He got a ton of stick for the last few months under Ole and probably didn’t see the fans accepting him. Or maybe he was in line for assistant after Phelan and now there’s no chance of that.


2.) 03 Dec 2021 06:41:33
We should applaud Carrick, he is not waiting around to be paid off, had the courage to go before pushed. Well done Michael. If only Phelan, McKenna and co had the same conviction.

I watched Carrick and the player was quality, his way of leaving quality.


3.) 03 Dec 2021 07:39:57
Agree Red Man. Did a great job at keeping us on track once Ole was sacked, and leaves with his had held high. Fine midfielder for us too in his day and think he will be in demand when he decides to return to the dugout for a decent championship club.


4.) 03 Dec 2021 08:27:42
15 years service to the club. He will be as disappointed as any of us with the last few years but stuck around to help the club in the last 3 games. Great player and classy guy.


5.) 03 Dec 2021 08:57:22
Agree Redman. Plus not wanting a long emotional goodbye shows the class of the guy.


6.) 03 Dec 2021 09:33:13
Class act in every respect and very underrated as a player by many. How we could do with him in the team today. Seems he genuinely just wanted a break and after 15 years service nobody can begrudge him.


7.) 03 Dec 2021 09:39:30
The guy deserves a flag or maybe even a statute ?

On a serious note I think it just makes sense that he walks away while his stock is at it's highest. As a caretaker he won in Spain against Villarreal, drew at Stamford bridge against top to the table Chelsea, and beat Arsenal at home.

I mean 10 days ago we'd have snatched their hand off if we were offered those results given how we had played so far this season.

Results wise I don't think he could have done any better.

Maybe a few other sides might look at that and think he's worth a gamble.

Whereas if he stayed until the end of the season and then Rangnick and the club decided he wasn't good enough and he was sacked, it'd make getting his next job much harder.

Or maybe he feels his friend and former boss was unfairly sacked and is simply walking away on principal.

Who knows, but he was a fantastic player for us, and he has no doubt tried his best as a coach. It's hard to tell how good he is as the whole set up just wasn't working. Maybe he's a better coach than many give him credit for, or maybe he isn't good enough for the highest level.

I do wish him the best of luck in his future endeavours and he will always be welcomed back at Old Trafford.


8.) 03 Dec 2021 10:13:27
How embarrassing it was to read so many continually slagging him off as a player. You know who you are. Good luck Michael. Thank you.


9.) 03 Dec 2021 10:48:42
i doubt he's got any jobs in line.

dont forget him and the others that were with ole are just as to blame for the poor season so far. why mkenna is still there and phelan i do not know.


10.) 03 Dec 2021 11:02:42
Bolger,

We literally have no idea what jobs the staff were doing or whether Ole was listening to them or delegating or just making all the big decisions himself. McKenna is highly rated and working with the right manager will hopefully so well at the club. I’m not sure phelan will last too much longer.

Carrick has done a good job in the last couple of weeks, it can’t have been easy and he’s managed to steady what was very much a sinking ship at Watford, so fair play. It gives Ralf something to work with straight away and a bit of confidence going into Sunday. He will then have a week on the training ground with the players, hopefully he plays kids against Young Boys and sees if any of them are ready, Fernandez, Amad, Hannibal, Mengi, Elanga perhaps, just to take a look at them and give the first team a week of coaching in his new system before the mad Christmas run.


11.) 03 Dec 2021 12:11:08
i have respect for Carrick for his handling of the last couple of weeks and his playing career especially.

Am just a little disappointed he didn't decide to learn from Rangnick for 6 months and then take his break.

It would have been completely different philosophy and training ideas compared to Jose and Ole and he could have benefited from that immensely.

On the other hand I can understand why he feels it is the right time to leave.
Probably a huge learning curve involved and thus even less time for his family and probably would still have had to endure the stick from the fans.

All the best, let's hope he does evolve into a more expansive style of play before he comes back to the club as manager.


12.) 03 Dec 2021 13:12:01
Jonny, I think that's a really great point. Many of the world's top managers have learned a lot from Rangnick. Carrick may have just passed up the learning opportunity of a life time.


13.) 03 Dec 2021 19:13:19
Classy player and even more of a classy man. He leaves with his held high to spend some quality time with his family. i wish him the best in whatever the future holds for him.


14.) 04 Dec 2021 09:32:18
Ralf wanted to keep him but sometimes you just need a break from the intensity of it all I guess. Who knows after a 6 month sabbatical the new manager may want to bring him back on board.
Personally I think if he does want to pursue a career in coaching it would do him no harm to search for a role abroad in Spain, Germany or Italy and learn away from the spotlight.


15.) 07 Dec 2021 05:36:51
Every post about MC is spot on but to be honest I think he also feels responsible for the slump and decided a clean break and fresh start for everyone was best.


 

 

22 Nov 2020 23:43:25
If there are any legs in the press stories about Juve wanting Pogba and Inter wanting to swap Fred with Ericsson I would be up for that. Then I would go all out to get Declan Rice to be the new Matic.

Salford7

{Ed002's Note - (a) They might be interested at the right price. (b) Inter want Eriksen moved on as soon as possible, preferably in January. If Manchester United were interested it would be as a Bruno Fernandes replacement.}


1.) 23 Nov 2020 10:19:05
Last year I was hoping United would sign Eriksen as we need an attacking midfielder. However, Bruno is our best player by a mile and VDB (while not getting much game time so far) is a great replacement for him as well as others in our midfield.

I'd much rather see us sign a defensive midfielder who is an improvement on Fred and Matic. The issue is we have too many players already so adding to that would be a problem.


2.) 23 Nov 2020 10:27:36
What happened with Eriksen Ed? Seems to have lost his way?

{Ed002's Note - It has not worked out and he is not a natural fit in the side and has asked to leave.}


3.) 23 Nov 2020 11:24:25
I like Eriksson. But now with bruno they fill the same role essentially so no need to go for him now.
Although there could all be clubs in for bruno soon enough and he may well get tempted to leave so maybe not a futile link.


4.) 23 Nov 2020 11:31:24
Not to sound too cryptic Ed but do we need to be looking at Bruno Fernandes replacements?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a position Manchester United are looking to add to right now as far as I understand.}


5.) 23 Nov 2020 11:34:44
Ed002 that is probably the second or third time you have mentioned a player being a Bruno Fernandes replacement. Is something going on with Bruno behind the scenes with him may be leaving the club soon?

{Ed002's Note - People keep asking about AM players who would be first choice - the only way that would work is if BF were moving on.}


6.) 23 Nov 2020 12:00:09
Ah ok, understood. Thanks Ed.


7.) 23 Nov 2020 12:39:45
Grass isn't always greener Eric79.


8.) 23 Nov 2020 21:06:54
I’d Eriksen for Pogba.


9.) 24 Nov 2020 00:46:36
Thanks Ed 02 for your reply. Could not Bruno and Ericsson work together a bit like De Bruyne and Silva did for City?

{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}


10.) 26 Nov 2020 11:26:56
He’s even slower than Matic. Finished as a decent player years ago.


 

 

13 May 2020 00:01:31
There are rumours that Angel Gomez migjt snub Utds offers and sign for Chelsea. I would be really upset to see such a talented young player leave. He needs a run in the team to prove himself. How can we afford to lose talent like his?

Salford7

1.) 13 May 2020 00:20:29
Umm probably because he won't sign a contract.

We just signed bruno who everyone is rightly raving about, there are strong links with grealish.

Also for half of the season we had lingard and pereira being chosen ahead of him for every game.

I am not surprised if he wants out and i wish him all the best.


2.) 13 May 2020 04:05:58
All the best to him. Although I don't see him getting much game time at Chelsea either. They have twice the amount of midfielders than we do all around his age looking to break into the first team.


3.) 13 May 2020 08:07:56
The concerns amongst the training staff are about his ability to cope with the EPL physically. Now while superior ability can beat physicality, the player needs to be clever enough to know how to do so. While our coaching staff can see what Gomes is capable of against EPL players every day in training.

This season his competition for places was probably as weak as he will ever have while playing for a top side. An ageing Mata, an out of form Lingard and Andreas Pereira who isn't good enough.

Since the the club have signed Bruno Fernandes and are looking at players like Grealish who would further push Gomes down the peaking order.

He is a clearly talented lad, but he needs to play a season or two of "mens" football either in the championship or in a league such as the Dutch or Portuguese league to develop his understanding and ability to cope physically with a much more demanding style of football.

To that end maybe a move to a club like Chelsea who will invariably loan him out for a year or two might be a good move. Or he will sign a new deal with us and hopefully follow a similar path.


4.) 13 May 2020 09:34:16
Invariably loan him out? Sorry Shappy, but Lampard will give him a chance if he's good enough.


5.) 13 May 2020 09:56:48
RJ28P as would ole but simple fact of the matter is he’s shown nothing when given a chance to warrant more starts.


6.) 13 May 2020 11:00:04
Gomes is very talented, but if anyone has watched him in the u23s especially this season, he’s not warranted a promotion to the first team on those performances. If he goes to Chelsea, good luck to him.

Also you have to ask where he fits in the team? Better player than Andreas and lingard potentially but he’s not really shown much yet. Bruno is top quality so he doesn’t get in there either. I don’t think he’s in the same class as Greenwood either.

A talent, but not sure if he’s going to be as big of a loss as many say.


7.) 13 May 2020 11:52:30
RJ28P, Well that's my point, if he was putting in the performances at United in training then he would be given a chance in the first team.

At United he only had Lingard, Mata and Andreas Pereira to get past before we signed Bruno.

He can play either on the wing or in the No.10 position. Chelsea tend to play either 433 or 4231, so Gomes would be competing for a wide role in a 433 or in any of the three positions between the midfield and the striker in a 4231. So he will be competing with Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Barkley, Pedro and Pulisic. Plus any other players Chelsea sign this summer.

Chelsea have an extensive history of signing young players and loaning them out. Gomes needs games every week, and currently he isn't consistent enough to do that at the top end of the EPL. So he needs a loan wherever he plays next season.


8.) 13 May 2020 13:00:49
RJ Lampard will give him a chance at the expense of whom?


9.) 13 May 2020 14:26:56
Pedro, Willian and Barkley will all likely be gone next season. And with respect, the reason why he isn't playing is because he is running his contract down, like Sancho did at City.
I've watched Gomes a lot (being fortunate enough to have access to a lot of youth games) and he's a talent on par with Hudson-Odoi and Saka if given the consistent minutes.
That said, it seems like the relationship at Utd has soured and it is right for the player to move on.


10.) 13 May 2020 14:48:12
Your right red whisky that goal in pre season against spurs didn’t show any promise. Haha. how many opportunities did he get in the number 10 position with the rest of the 1st 11 also playing.


11.) 13 May 2020 16:32:52
RJ, for the sake of this discussion, let's assume you are right about the three you mentioned. You think Gomes will slot into their MF ahead of Kante, Mount, Pulisic, Loftus, Kovacic, Gilmour, Odoi, Jorgino or Ziyach?


12.) 13 May 2020 17:51:31
Sorry pogthedog he scored one goal in a pre season match. I presume you have unlimited access to the training sessions to say he deserves a chance? Like shappy said if you don’t show enough in training to usurp the likes of pereira and Lingard then there must be a reason why he’s not playing. Ole has been a huge advocate of playing the youth and giving chances. Chong got minutes whilst refusing to sign so I find the idea he’s not playing because of refusing to sign irrelevant.


13.) 13 May 2020 19:32:41
He can certainly play wide in rotation with Odoi, Pulisic and Ziyech. As for pure no. 10s, the only one we have is Ziyech, Mount is better when allowed to sit a little deeper.


14.) 14 May 2020 00:55:21
I like gomes but the lad has reportedly been offered 30k.
Football can be simple, greenwood produced gomes hasn't. 30k and what else should we offer him?


15.) 14 May 2020 00:56:06
My worry is that if teams like Chelsea and Barcelona want to take him what is it that they feel they can get out of him that Ole cannot.

I understand all the points raised by you guys. On one hand if he was performing at a very high level then you would think that he would get a chance to shine in the first team. He is obviously not pulling up any trees but he is young and it must be terribly frustrating if you feel that you do not have rhe managers full confidence and are not going to get a run of games to settle in and prove how good you are.

We are all very happy and surprised at how well an established international £60m player like Bruno has done in such a short time. Yet he has lots of experience and is older than Gomez. Why then do people ezpect a younger player to come into the first team and immediately perform to a high level? Also on the rare times Gomez got a game it was when the team were still struggling. I really do feel he should be given the chance to make it at Utd. I know he is not quite the same player as Grealish but I think he has more natural talent.

For me the way to go would be to give him a decent contract and send him on loan for a season. He would get the games he needs, toughen up physically, and he might appreciate how special it is to have the facilities of and play for Utd. Beckham was loaned out and it didn't hurt his prospects.


16.) 14 May 2020 07:50:19
Salford, the issue is that he clearly hasn't done enough in training to convince he should start ahead of anyone else.

Under other managers you could say that maybe they don't give youth a chance. But Ole has given more than given youth a chance. People also forget that Gomes was given three starts in the Europa League, often against weaker opposition than we play most weeks in the EPL. How did Gomes do in those games? Occasional glimpses of talent, but drifted in and out of the game far too much.

If he can't do it against the likes of Astana then he will struggle against the Everton's, Spurs, Burnley's and Sheffield United's of the EPL.

He is a hugely talented player, but he isn't ready to play at the level we play at. He needs a loan or two in order to develop.

Unfortunately his contact is about to run out and he doesn't want to sign a new deal. Maybe making his debut at 16 has made him inpatient, maybe he has been told he will get more elsewhere.

Who knows. His size will hold him back in the EPL until he learns how to mitigate his lack of physicality. In youth football if you're quick you can avoid physical battles to an extent, but men's football is played at a faster pace, and quick feet alone will not get you out of trouble. You need to read the game well and position yourself in the right areas and be two steps ahead of the opposition.

It's not a case of him just bulking up, although he does look like he could be tackled by a stiff breeze. He needs to learn how to play in the men's game. He is best off doing that on loan as he will need to play 20-30 games a season to start to learn that. He can't get that here with him playing as he has done. So a loan is the solution.

If he signs for Chelsea he will almost certainly leave on loan at some point. As they are in the same boat as us.
If he signs for Barcelona I don't see him getting a huge amount of game time. They don't tend to play with a No.10 so he would be competing for one of the wide forward roles, against Messi, Dembele, Griezmann, Fati and Braithwaite, plus whoever else the club sign this summer. With Neymar being a key target.

He needs a season in the Championship, or to move to a more technical league in Europe on loan. Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium could all be good options.

I hope he makes it, whether that's with us or somewhere else. But it's a long road yet, and he needs to realise that if he is going to make the most of his potential.


17.) 14 May 2020 10:57:20
Sadly for me, Greenwood and Williams aside this is a very underwhelming crop of youngsters, referring to those of the age where they would expect to be getting chances in the first team and making an impression. I've seen Chong the most and he has shown nothing but a haircut I'm afraid. I don't buy the fact that Gomes' size is a problem either but neither has he done enough to suggest that he is any better than the thousands of other kids clubs of this magnitude scout every season. If the tens of thousands he wants every week aren't sufficient let him go, I'm sure we'll resign him for £50m in a few years!


18.) 14 May 2020 15:32:34
Spenno, most young players don't really start to have a regular impact until they are 21/ 22 years old after a season or two as squad players.

In that respect the likes of Rashford and McTominay are starting to reach that level of impact. While Henderson could when he returns from his loan, as could Tuanzebe if he can stay injury free.

However, the likes of Greenwood and Williams are ahead of where they would normally expect for players of their ages. While the likes of Laird, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Chong and Gomes still have huge potential, but are probably a year or two away from making a serious impact in the first team beyond a few games.

That's 12 young players in total who have a chance to make a telling impact in our first team within the next few years. That's insane and at levels not really seen outside of Ajax or Barcelona.

While we have also signed AWB and Shaw who were two of the best young players in the league when we signed them. Dan James from the Championship. While we are chasing players such as Rice, Rodon, Sancho, Bellingham, Grealish etc some of the best young British talent around.

I would say we have two great groups of young players in our squad. The older group of players between the ages of 21-24 including; Henderson, Tuanzebe, AWB, Shaw, McTominay, Rashford, James and Martial.

With a younger group between 17-20 including; Larid, Williams, Dalot, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Mejbri, Gomes, Chong and Greenwood.

Giving us 18 EIGHTEEN! players at our club who have a good chance of making it as at least good squad players, with some of them having genuine world class potential.


 

 

 

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26 May 2024 00:15:31
Football has changed and for the most part the teams who control possession the most win the most. Most teams in the top leagues in Europe have players who have great technical skills so it stands to reason that the less chance they have to exercise that skill by virtue of less possession then the less likely they are to score.

Today we deserved the win but it has to be said that City were way off their usual standard and had 75% possession but failed to make it count until right at the end of the match. When Fergies teams were in their pomp they also controlled matches and it's something that ETH or the new manager will have to address by buying better players to have a better squad. Doing well at Wembley in a one off game was wonderful but the acid test will be next season.

Salford7

1.) 26 May 2024 07:00:47
Stats are funny.

City had more possession, but it didn’t really feel like it. We controlled them without the ball. Mainoo said in his post match interview that we’d worked on controlling the middle of the pitch, forcing them out wide because of Foden, Rodri and De Bruyne.

Like with the ‘touches in opposition box’ stat. They beat us on that too. But how many of those touches were from Doku tippy tapping the ball? It’s misleading.

I think Doku changed the game for them and he looked their only threat, certainly Foden wasn’t his brilliant self, but let’s take every ounce of credit because all I can find online is that we “stunned” and “shocked” City, and “was that ETH’s farewell”. Nothing about how we controlled them really well and stopped them from playing due to good training leading up to the day, and good tactics on it. Praise where it’s due.

{Ed025's Note - i thought it was a good performance Wassa, but it does beggar the question...where have these players been all season mate?..


2.) 26 May 2024 07:10:00
25 that’s a whole different argument and one I fully agree with.

However, we can understate the importance of Martinez to the side and how the manager wants to play. He handled Haaland brilliantly yesterday (I thought Haaland eventually gave up), and he played a brilliant pass which Rashford should’ve taken on and scored.

As you know, some players raise the performance of those around them. He is certainly in that bracket.

{Ed025's Note - you do have some very good players Wassa and Martinez is certainly one of them, its the team ethic that lets you down for me mate and as much as some players can lift you some of them will also bring you down..


3.) 26 May 2024 07:39:20
Fully agree Ed. We’ve been through the same cycle several times now, where certain players throw the towel in during the manager’s 2nd year; not just ten Hag.

Our recruitment has been poor, we need to be targeting mentally strong players who are hungry. The problem today is that players get too much too young, and in the case of some of our squad, they know they just need to outlast the manager for a fresh start and a new contract.

I hope things begin to change with the new structure being built.


4.) 26 May 2024 07:55:33
It's funny wazza, but growing up watching football there wasn't the stats that we have now. It would be interesting to see statistics for previous teams of the 80's and 90's against today. I watch some games now and when I get the stats afterwards it seems unbelievable at times.


5.) 26 May 2024 08:12:29
Indeed Banjoe. We would’ve been behind on all of these stats in the ‘99 final against Bayern. Except the 1 stat that matters.


6.) 26 May 2024 08:37:28
Completely agree with your post on this Wazza.


7.) 26 May 2024 10:39:20
thought the defense played well today with awb and dalot standing up to silva, doku foden and de bruyne: not going to ground and puuting them out wide - key moments really - city had loads of possession 2nd half but goal was a bit soft and although nervy because they have the quality to hurt any team, they weren't allowed to. Heleva day and match
hope everyone got home safely and the hangovers ain't so bad today. enjoy the circus that is transfer window guys! have a great summer.


 

 

17 May 2024 12:35:26
I know we need some experienced players and leaders but I really don't want players in their late 20s close to 30 years old. Would much prefer to do what Madrid and Arsenal are doing which is to buy younger players who can be moulded and play at the high tempo required for the Premier league for several seasons.

Salford7

1.) 17 May 2024 20:05:14
I agree, but. There would be a few exceptions where, if available, and within the wage structure, you'd move for certain players for certain positions, surely?


2.) 18 May 2024 11:05:19
It's all about balance, which of course is hard to find in the polarised world of extremes found on the internet.

We need a blend of young players to be the core of the new squad we are building, along with players in their peak years who can carry the team, and a few older heads to add experience, to guide the younger players and to pass on that experience.

In terms of transfers we should be looking at spending the bigger fees on younger players who will soon be entering their peak years. We have some great players under the age of 21, but we don't have any between the ages of 22-25 who are starting to hit their peak years and match the talent with consistency. That's the players we need to sign most. Then maybe a couple of young talented players in a couple of positions if we cannot bring in those players who are starting to become consistent.

We should then look at the free transfer market or some cheaper older players with experience who are mod professionals, who can add experience and guide the younger players.

People remember the "you can't win titles with kids" and what happened afterwards and think we can rely just on youngsters. But they forget that United side had it's fair share of experienced players sprinkled throughout it to help guide those youngsters.

We could look at someone like Welbeck for example. A free transfer who knows the club, knows what the club looked like when we were successful, and could come in and guide the likes of Højlund while still offering an option on the field.

Much like how Evans has been a success this season. Welbeck is a three years younger than Evans so might even be able to stick around for a couple of seasons.

Lots of people have stuck their noses up at this suggestion but answer this honestly, when Højlund has been out injured this season would you have rather seen Rashford or Welbeck start at CF?

We do need that experience in the squad, even if they aren't starting every week.


3.) 18 May 2024 12:27:46
Agree that we need a core of young hungry players but there always has to be a group of older heads in there to steady things and pass on the experience and know-how. Much has been made of Rasmus not having someone to look up to, you could argue that the likes of Cas and Varane have been vital.


 

 

07 May 2024 21:54:37
Dortmund are everything Utd are not. Well organised professional tactically astute and willing to run themselves into the ground. Not the best but showed how a good manager can mould a team into more than the sum of its parts.

Salford7

1.) 08 May 2024 03:46:43
Bet Sancho is having a good old chuckle at Ten Haag’s expense. Thrown under the bus only to find himself dragged into a Champions League final. Meanwhile, it’s looking like Ten Haag’s season (and hopefully his Manchester United career) is going to end with five embarrassing defeats in a row. How the turns have tabled.


2.) 08 May 2024 06:53:48
Thrown under the bus, Sancho did nothing at United regardless of who managed him. Clearly he can only succeed at one club.


3.) 08 May 2024 07:13:39
Redseven why would you hope for the team you support to lose 5 games in a row?

Sancho has 3 goals and 1 assist in 18 games for Dortmund, that’s less than Rashford who is having his worse season. Anyone would think Sancho is prime Messi reading what some people say on here.

He also disrespected the club which should hold him below the current manager in any fans eyes.


4.) 08 May 2024 10:36:32
Any fan that boycotts going to support the team because they don't like the manager is disrespecting the club. It would be the most hypocritical thing any fan could do then to jump on others for not thinking a coach is a good one and leave them with zero credibility at all.
??? jimbob this could be another national disgrace??.


5.) 08 May 2024 12:48:56
I refer to your last paragraph in the post above wazza.
It very much depends on the fans you refer to. If it's proper fans or ones that withdraw their support when they don't like a coach. Fans imo should always support the team and not boycott because they don't like the manager.

Fans that boycott and their their toys out of the pram because they don't like the manager imo are anti fans and are not worthy of any respect at all from the proper fans who support the team come what may.
Not every transient employee get our respect and support but the team as a whole should always have our support.


6.) 08 May 2024 13:23:51
Wazza. I didn’t say that I hoped we’d lose our last five games (though I fully expect that to happen the way things are going) . I said that I hoped Ten Haag’s time with us would be coming to an end after those five games, just as the vast majority of supporters now do. Most of the rest want him gone before then.


7.) 08 May 2024 13:54:34
That's how I read your post redseven and that's actually what it said.
Folk were saying the same thing about Jose back in the day. ??.


 

 

17 Apr 2024 10:57:12
Never mind Brathwrate pay £100m or more and go bad get Cubarsi rhe 17yr old Barcelona centre back. He is outstanding and especially so for one so young.

Salford7

1.) 17 Apr 2024 16:00:42
I like Braithwaite but not at silly money.
If the emglish and united premium makes him too expensive then that's where our recruitment team need to earn their corn.


 

 

16 Apr 2024 19:26:15
There are hundreds of talented possible transfer targets. I wish for three things 1) a tactically astute manager who instills discipline into the squad and 2) who buys younger players who he can mould into a long term successful team and 3) gets rid of egotistical under performing current players.

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1.) 16 Apr 2024 22:26:10
So say all of us Salford.


2.) 17 Apr 2024 01:08:49
The potential issue with no2 is that 90% of the players many want to leave are the most experienced of the Utd squad. Could potentially end up the same as Chelsea where there’s no leadership/ experience.


3.) 17 Apr 2024 06:15:33
Fuser

I don’t see any leadership now, on the pitch or in the dugout.


4.) 17 Apr 2024 11:32:56
ETH got rid of Ronaldo and Sancho so a tick in the box for point 3. Has brought through Garnacho, Mainoo, Big Willy, given Omari a chance and promotes youngsters from U18's to train with the first team including Shea Lacey and others which is a big tick for point 2. Disciplined Rashford, Ronaldo, Sancho, Garnacho incidents which is a tick for part of point 1 yet fans will moan at the handling of these players.

Now the fall down is he tactically astute? Last season beat Liverpool, beat Man City, beat Arsenal, beat Tottenham, beat Chelsea, beat Barcelona, won a trophy, got top 4, is on the verge of back to back FA Cup finals, not lost to Liverpool in 3 games this season. So has shown he is or can be, but there's a lack of consistency unfortunately. But then there has been a lack of consistency in player availability this season so potentially unfair to judge ETH on this. Last season United used 26 players in total throughout the premier league season, Manchester City used the least with 24 players, they won the league.

This season United have used 30 players, 4th highest in the league and guess which team have used the lowest? Manchester City with 25. Arsenal have also used 25. So there is an argument that consistency is an issue but how can you develop consistency when you have had to have 26 different back four combinations in one season?

Fans can absolutely have an opinion on the Managers position, I am still in favour of ETH above other options as are a number of others on here. There are a number who want ETH gone which is absolutely their right to feel this. However, I feel the judgement against ETH has to be done fairly with all situations and scenarios during his tenure taken into consideration. It seems to me that Ten Hag is having to satisfy contradicting expectations from fans. Fan's want in place a style and structure, build for the long term but at the same time, expected to deliver short term results to keep his job but carry out a rebuild whilst doing it. Ten Hag is absolutely open to criticism this season, not least about why United are so easy to play through, but what the past 10 years should have told us is that any manager at United pre SJR, has been set up to fail, SJR has identified and stated this himself.

So to Salford's 3 point wish list, when you look at the points, ETH is meeting most of them and shown the other area can be achieved to. But if it is to be a new manager, then fans need to be prepared for a further inconsistent short term future mixed with, hopefully some trophy success but also some terrible and questionable performances and disappointing seasons.


5.) 17 Apr 2024 13:11:21
Ports

he has introduced youngsters out of necessity not choice. Which youngsters did he actually buy? Yes he got rid of Ronaldo and Sancho but have we played better without them? Would Hoijlund not benefitted from learning off Ronaldo? Discipline takes many forms. Sancho is playing well again at Dortmund. maybe a better coach than ETH could have seen him playing well for us. He let Sabitzer go and brought in Amrabat. I bet Amrabat looks a decent player again when he is released and plays for his new team.

Meantime ETH has disciplined and kept Rashford but we have seen no improvement in Rashfords effort or form. Yes injuries of course disrupt a team but when we are conceding so many stupid goals and so many shots per game it is blindingly obvious that the team is either not listening to the managers instructions or his instructions are rubbish.

Either way the result is the same and something has to change or results will not get better. Liverpool have had a lot of injuries this season but are still playing decent football and challenging for the league.

Again as many have pointed out winning a few matches against so called bigger teams shows there is potential to be better but no structure implemented consistently. let's be honest several of our better performances we could and should have lost.

I want ETH to succeed but really am doubtful that he will. It infuriates me when he comes out after mtches when we have got a lucky draw or lost and says that we played well and that there is an improvement. The league table does not lie. We are an upper mid table team at best. The fans are not idiots. We know rubbish when we see it. We know a lack of effort when we see it. Its his very well paid job to fix things not moan about injuries or try to kid us. Look at how Villa, Spurs, Brighton, Brentford, Newcastle play. All with a definite way or ways to play. I defy anyone to say from week to week which way we will play or how well with any real conviction.


6.) 17 Apr 2024 14:09:19
Playing well? He scored 0 goals yesterday, 0 assists, lost possession 18 times, won 3/ 10 duels and made 1 defensive tackle last night. Here's the issue, Dortmund have got into the Semi final which equals Sancho is proving ETH wrong is some fans eyes because they just want a stick to beat ETH with. He's got 2 goals and 2 assists for them so far in 14 games. No one supported Sancho more than ETH, people forget the 3 months off he gave him and sent him abroad to help him, yet still not enough. He disciplined Garnacho in pre season and got a response from him, he's disciplined Rashford twice now and got a quick response but not maintained. This IMO speaks more about Rashford than ETH but players appear to be avoidant of criticism and personal responsibility. Why didn't he sell Rashford? Who knows, why haven't we sold Martial? Well reports were Joel Glazer loves him so maybe the decision not sell Rashford is not ETH's choice.

You'd rather he brought youngsters but personaly, if we have the potential why not promote from within? The outcome remains the same and you actually probably get more buy in from a kid who's come from the academy. He didn't need to bring in Mainoo, McTominay has been sitting there all along, he could have stuck with Rashford and Antony on the wings but he's stuck with Garnacho. He's played the most minutes for teenagers this season bar Forest I believe. He could have eaisily played Amrabat instead of Kambawala who has played CB before. He brought in a youngster in Hojlund and was hammered for it.

Of course he's made mistakes, I liked Sabitzer and wish he stayed but for whatever reason he didn't. Perhaps, ETH was promised they'd get someone else in but failed to? But if people are to criticise ETH, tell the whole story and if that's your feelings then so be it but don't cherry pick events.


7.) 17 Apr 2024 14:44:28
Ports I respect that's your perspective.
I don't agree obviously.
There is every possibility that eth will be in charge next season as you say let's see what sjr and the team decide and identify as the best option eth or A. N other.
None of us know the real dynamics I'm happy to admit that.
Nine of us know what it's like to work with him or for him.
My perception is that I would not like to work for or with him and I wouldn't like him working for me based on what I see and hear but that could be wrong as I'm not in possession of all the facts or details.
I see a team that is awful to watch and while we did beat those teams you mention last season we were also on the end of a few hideous defeats by them also.
We score less than most teams in the league now over 2 seasons not just this season.
Eth has lost about 1/ 3 of all his league matches over 2 seasons
Our worst ever cl campaign.
Our players are slower and less dynamic than any team I care to mention.
So for every ying there is a yang on the stats.
Rashford had his best season ever last season and his worst this season.
His signings loans or permanent
Amrabat requllion ericksen weggy malacia casimero Anthony have not worked out at all.
Mount and martinez can't stay available for selection
Onana and rasmus there are big question marks over according to ed002 particularly onana.
Bruno has gone backwards like rashford and casimero
Dalot has been put forward as a big success under eth. Really has he?
He has done well with the youth players he has introduced for sure but will he turn garnacho into ronaldo or Anthony (who has had his coaching for 4 years and eth deems him unplayable at times)
So our perceptions of the job he is doing are old apart.
We can agree that he has been unlucky with injuries but fergie and raniere won the league with worse players.
We are not a team and we are getting worse under eth that's my perception.
He has brought in lots of players.
The players don't respond to him.
Remember they are not the same players that didn't respond to Jose or lvg so it's not like they are guilty of throwing several managers under the bus which is what I often hear.
I don't think injuries are enough to excuse our totally inept performances. They don't explain the speed of our play and our tactics.
We did beat Liverpool this season once and drew twice but I'd argue we should have been beaten in at least 2 of the games and we won like the hopeful boxer with a couple of good punches.
I'll be shocked if he is not replaced in the summer in fact I think they're is a very good chance he will leave on amicable terms.
If he stays then I'm happy to acknowledge my opinion and perception is not what the experts are seeing behind the scenes.


8.) 17 Apr 2024 20:58:30
Tumbleweed I agree with nearly everything you say. I would venture to suggest that nearly all Utd fans do and pundits on the tv and newspaper reporters too.


9.) 17 Apr 2024 23:43:13
pundits on tv and newspaper reporters ?.


 

 

 

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26 May 2024 15:42:06
If we could get him for £10m would be a good squad player if he was played in the right position.

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18 Apr 2024 18:35:53
I would prefer us not to be in Europe at all next year if it means being in the conference trophy competition. What with the Euros and and new players / manager? coming in or leaving I would prefer midweek for getting proper coaching sessions and time to rest if players are injured.

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08 Apr 2024 17:50:05
They sound like Utd.

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11 Mar 2024 20:31:15
Thanks tor yr replies Ed.

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10 Mar 2024 19:21:38
What about Kieran Tierney? Eds was there ever any interest about him from Utd? Always impressed me with his commitment and skill.

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26 May 2024 13:12:53
I do thank him for bringing us two cups and think he is a decent guy.

The problem is that whilst Arsenal and Liverpool did have key injuries too they didn't suffer so many awful losses as we have this season. Nor did their players seem to give up or make such basic errors like Utds did this season.

I know having so many players out especially in defence makes it really difficult for a manager but playing Casemeiro in Central defence when he patently was not up to it makes me question ETH. Not playing Diallo and persevering with Anthony who is technically gifted but more likely to succeed in Italy or Spain again gives me doubts about ETH.

Watching Sancho play so well for Dortmund but being so poor for us and falling out with the coach brings more doubts.

Not changing things in matched when things were so obviously not right adds more question marks

These are all points (and there are many more that) many of us have made over the season. One win against a tired off key City does not answer those points and fill me with justifiable genuine optimism for the coming season.

My heart wants ETH to do really well and prove all the doubters including myself wrong. My head is full of doubts. Complicating this is the fact that there are few genuine elite level managers available. I would love Mckenna back at Old Trafford because his work with the youth team was great and he gets the club and fans but he is surely better off going to a slightly lesser mid table team and getting more experience which will stand him in good stead long term. He is young enough to get the job in the future.

Poch is known to be a good man manager but is he good enough to build this team and lead us back to the very top. Very difficult to say that he is based on past coaching jobs he has had. He has had no real trophy winning success. (I don't count the french league as being of value) .

Are we as fans going to be realistic and realise that regardless of whoever has the job it is going to take a few years to build a squad capable of challenging for the league. Are we and are Ineos patient enough to allow the manager to make mistakes and suffer taking a few steps back and not finish in the top four of another season if the rebuild takes a while. If we chose another manager then we should surely give them at least two seasons to rebuild. If that's is the case with a new manager why should ETH also not have another two years to do the same? After all they would be starting from the same base line.

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24 May 2024 15:15:45
Talksport Just said he is gone after the final.

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21 May 2024 15:08:29
Something is patently not right with Rashford this season. Maybe a break will do him good. We were all lauding him last year for his excellent performances. i hope he gets whatever help he needs to rediscover that form.

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20 May 2024 23:58:02
Don't really mind who plays. All I want is for the players to play with pride and run their socks off. Also that they don't do stupid things.

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17 May 2024 12:33:05
Kimmich was very uncomfortable at right back for Bayern in the champions league. Def better in midfield.

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