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02 Mar 2022 23:34:16
Ancelotti is being touted as a possible Utd manager. What are peoples thoughts about him?

Salford7

1.) 02 Mar 2022 23:39:31
He’s great.


2.) 03 Mar 2022 05:16:06
Good manager but seems unrealistic. That he’d leave Madrid. Feel like it’s just links to make it seem like we looked other than Poch.


3.) 03 Mar 2022 08:35:54
im still in shock he went everton, they had a top manager and didn't use him.

he could have with some investment and time made them a decent team.


4.) 03 Mar 2022 08:58:58
No thanks, for the job we need done he'd be completely the wrong man.


5.) 03 Mar 2022 10:16:31
Good manager, but I would put him in the same category as Zidane. Someone who is tactically flexible and is good at getting the best out of a team of talented ego's who may have lost a little drive or direction.

Not the kind of manager to perform a rebuild, develop young players, create a distinct style of play etc.


6.) 03 Mar 2022 13:08:42
agree shappy, he's a decent manager but he's a manager of 10-15 years ago

hopefully he's not one of the choices.


7.) 03 Mar 2022 16:53:30
He wasn't on the list of managers that ED002 provided us with.


8.) 04 Mar 2022 23:57:57
Shappy, Good manager, but I would put him in the same category as Zidane. Someone who is tactically flexible and is good at getting the best out of a team of talented ego's. Isn't that exactly what you need?


 

 

02 Dec 2021 22:36:29
So Carrick departs. suggests either he has a potential job offer or that the new manager wants a clean sweep.

Salford7

1.) 03 Dec 2021 02:11:10
I think it’s possible he just wanted a break. He got a ton of stick for the last few months under Ole and probably didn’t see the fans accepting him. Or maybe he was in line for assistant after Phelan and now there’s no chance of that.


2.) 03 Dec 2021 06:41:33
We should applaud Carrick, he is not waiting around to be paid off, had the courage to go before pushed. Well done Michael. If only Phelan, McKenna and co had the same conviction.

I watched Carrick and the player was quality, his way of leaving quality.


3.) 03 Dec 2021 07:39:57
Agree Red Man. Did a great job at keeping us on track once Ole was sacked, and leaves with his had held high. Fine midfielder for us too in his day and think he will be in demand when he decides to return to the dugout for a decent championship club.


4.) 03 Dec 2021 08:27:42
15 years service to the club. He will be as disappointed as any of us with the last few years but stuck around to help the club in the last 3 games. Great player and classy guy.


5.) 03 Dec 2021 08:57:22
Agree Redman. Plus not wanting a long emotional goodbye shows the class of the guy.


6.) 03 Dec 2021 09:33:13
Class act in every respect and very underrated as a player by many. How we could do with him in the team today. Seems he genuinely just wanted a break and after 15 years service nobody can begrudge him.


7.) 03 Dec 2021 09:39:30
The guy deserves a flag or maybe even a statute ?

On a serious note I think it just makes sense that he walks away while his stock is at it's highest. As a caretaker he won in Spain against Villarreal, drew at Stamford bridge against top to the table Chelsea, and beat Arsenal at home.

I mean 10 days ago we'd have snatched their hand off if we were offered those results given how we had played so far this season.

Results wise I don't think he could have done any better.

Maybe a few other sides might look at that and think he's worth a gamble.

Whereas if he stayed until the end of the season and then Rangnick and the club decided he wasn't good enough and he was sacked, it'd make getting his next job much harder.

Or maybe he feels his friend and former boss was unfairly sacked and is simply walking away on principal.

Who knows, but he was a fantastic player for us, and he has no doubt tried his best as a coach. It's hard to tell how good he is as the whole set up just wasn't working. Maybe he's a better coach than many give him credit for, or maybe he isn't good enough for the highest level.

I do wish him the best of luck in his future endeavours and he will always be welcomed back at Old Trafford.


8.) 03 Dec 2021 10:13:27
How embarrassing it was to read so many continually slagging him off as a player. You know who you are. Good luck Michael. Thank you.


9.) 03 Dec 2021 10:48:42
i doubt he's got any jobs in line.

dont forget him and the others that were with ole are just as to blame for the poor season so far. why mkenna is still there and phelan i do not know.


10.) 03 Dec 2021 11:02:42
Bolger,

We literally have no idea what jobs the staff were doing or whether Ole was listening to them or delegating or just making all the big decisions himself. McKenna is highly rated and working with the right manager will hopefully so well at the club. I’m not sure phelan will last too much longer.

Carrick has done a good job in the last couple of weeks, it can’t have been easy and he’s managed to steady what was very much a sinking ship at Watford, so fair play. It gives Ralf something to work with straight away and a bit of confidence going into Sunday. He will then have a week on the training ground with the players, hopefully he plays kids against Young Boys and sees if any of them are ready, Fernandez, Amad, Hannibal, Mengi, Elanga perhaps, just to take a look at them and give the first team a week of coaching in his new system before the mad Christmas run.


11.) 03 Dec 2021 12:11:08
i have respect for Carrick for his handling of the last couple of weeks and his playing career especially.

Am just a little disappointed he didn't decide to learn from Rangnick for 6 months and then take his break.

It would have been completely different philosophy and training ideas compared to Jose and Ole and he could have benefited from that immensely.

On the other hand I can understand why he feels it is the right time to leave.
Probably a huge learning curve involved and thus even less time for his family and probably would still have had to endure the stick from the fans.

All the best, let's hope he does evolve into a more expansive style of play before he comes back to the club as manager.


12.) 03 Dec 2021 13:12:01
Jonny, I think that's a really great point. Many of the world's top managers have learned a lot from Rangnick. Carrick may have just passed up the learning opportunity of a life time.


13.) 03 Dec 2021 19:13:19
Classy player and even more of a classy man. He leaves with his held high to spend some quality time with his family. i wish him the best in whatever the future holds for him.


14.) 04 Dec 2021 09:32:18
Ralf wanted to keep him but sometimes you just need a break from the intensity of it all I guess. Who knows after a 6 month sabbatical the new manager may want to bring him back on board.
Personally I think if he does want to pursue a career in coaching it would do him no harm to search for a role abroad in Spain, Germany or Italy and learn away from the spotlight.


15.) 07 Dec 2021 05:36:51
Every post about MC is spot on but to be honest I think he also feels responsible for the slump and decided a clean break and fresh start for everyone was best.


 

 

22 Nov 2020 23:43:25
If there are any legs in the press stories about Juve wanting Pogba and Inter wanting to swap Fred with Ericsson I would be up for that. Then I would go all out to get Declan Rice to be the new Matic.

Salford7

{Ed002's Note - (a) They might be interested at the right price. (b) Inter want Eriksen moved on as soon as possible, preferably in January. If Manchester United were interested it would be as a Bruno Fernandes replacement.}


1.) 23 Nov 2020 10:19:05
Last year I was hoping United would sign Eriksen as we need an attacking midfielder. However, Bruno is our best player by a mile and VDB (while not getting much game time so far) is a great replacement for him as well as others in our midfield.

I'd much rather see us sign a defensive midfielder who is an improvement on Fred and Matic. The issue is we have too many players already so adding to that would be a problem.


2.) 23 Nov 2020 10:27:36
What happened with Eriksen Ed? Seems to have lost his way?

{Ed002's Note - It has not worked out and he is not a natural fit in the side and has asked to leave.}


3.) 23 Nov 2020 11:24:25
I like Eriksson. But now with bruno they fill the same role essentially so no need to go for him now.
Although there could all be clubs in for bruno soon enough and he may well get tempted to leave so maybe not a futile link.


4.) 23 Nov 2020 11:31:24
Not to sound too cryptic Ed but do we need to be looking at Bruno Fernandes replacements?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a position Manchester United are looking to add to right now as far as I understand.}


5.) 23 Nov 2020 11:34:44
Ed002 that is probably the second or third time you have mentioned a player being a Bruno Fernandes replacement. Is something going on with Bruno behind the scenes with him may be leaving the club soon?

{Ed002's Note - People keep asking about AM players who would be first choice - the only way that would work is if BF were moving on.}


6.) 23 Nov 2020 12:00:09
Ah ok, understood. Thanks Ed.


7.) 23 Nov 2020 12:39:45
Grass isn't always greener Eric79.


8.) 23 Nov 2020 21:06:54
I’d Eriksen for Pogba.


9.) 24 Nov 2020 00:46:36
Thanks Ed 02 for your reply. Could not Bruno and Ericsson work together a bit like De Bruyne and Silva did for City?

{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}


10.) 26 Nov 2020 11:26:56
He’s even slower than Matic. Finished as a decent player years ago.


 

 

13 May 2020 00:01:31
There are rumours that Angel Gomez migjt snub Utds offers and sign for Chelsea. I would be really upset to see such a talented young player leave. He needs a run in the team to prove himself. How can we afford to lose talent like his?

Salford7

1.) 13 May 2020 00:20:29
Umm probably because he won't sign a contract.

We just signed bruno who everyone is rightly raving about, there are strong links with grealish.

Also for half of the season we had lingard and pereira being chosen ahead of him for every game.

I am not surprised if he wants out and i wish him all the best.


2.) 13 May 2020 04:05:58
All the best to him. Although I don't see him getting much game time at Chelsea either. They have twice the amount of midfielders than we do all around his age looking to break into the first team.


3.) 13 May 2020 08:07:56
The concerns amongst the training staff are about his ability to cope with the EPL physically. Now while superior ability can beat physicality, the player needs to be clever enough to know how to do so. While our coaching staff can see what Gomes is capable of against EPL players every day in training.

This season his competition for places was probably as weak as he will ever have while playing for a top side. An ageing Mata, an out of form Lingard and Andreas Pereira who isn't good enough.

Since the the club have signed Bruno Fernandes and are looking at players like Grealish who would further push Gomes down the peaking order.

He is a clearly talented lad, but he needs to play a season or two of "mens" football either in the championship or in a league such as the Dutch or Portuguese league to develop his understanding and ability to cope physically with a much more demanding style of football.

To that end maybe a move to a club like Chelsea who will invariably loan him out for a year or two might be a good move. Or he will sign a new deal with us and hopefully follow a similar path.


4.) 13 May 2020 09:34:16
Invariably loan him out? Sorry Shappy, but Lampard will give him a chance if he's good enough.


5.) 13 May 2020 09:56:48
RJ28P as would ole but simple fact of the matter is he’s shown nothing when given a chance to warrant more starts.


6.) 13 May 2020 11:00:04
Gomes is very talented, but if anyone has watched him in the u23s especially this season, he’s not warranted a promotion to the first team on those performances. If he goes to Chelsea, good luck to him.

Also you have to ask where he fits in the team? Better player than Andreas and lingard potentially but he’s not really shown much yet. Bruno is top quality so he doesn’t get in there either. I don’t think he’s in the same class as Greenwood either.

A talent, but not sure if he’s going to be as big of a loss as many say.


7.) 13 May 2020 11:52:30
RJ28P, Well that's my point, if he was putting in the performances at United in training then he would be given a chance in the first team.

At United he only had Lingard, Mata and Andreas Pereira to get past before we signed Bruno.

He can play either on the wing or in the No.10 position. Chelsea tend to play either 433 or 4231, so Gomes would be competing for a wide role in a 433 or in any of the three positions between the midfield and the striker in a 4231. So he will be competing with Mount, Hudson-Odoi, Barkley, Pedro and Pulisic. Plus any other players Chelsea sign this summer.

Chelsea have an extensive history of signing young players and loaning them out. Gomes needs games every week, and currently he isn't consistent enough to do that at the top end of the EPL. So he needs a loan wherever he plays next season.


8.) 13 May 2020 13:00:49
RJ Lampard will give him a chance at the expense of whom?


9.) 13 May 2020 14:26:56
Pedro, Willian and Barkley will all likely be gone next season. And with respect, the reason why he isn't playing is because he is running his contract down, like Sancho did at City.
I've watched Gomes a lot (being fortunate enough to have access to a lot of youth games) and he's a talent on par with Hudson-Odoi and Saka if given the consistent minutes.
That said, it seems like the relationship at Utd has soured and it is right for the player to move on.


10.) 13 May 2020 14:48:12
Your right red whisky that goal in pre season against spurs didn’t show any promise. Haha. how many opportunities did he get in the number 10 position with the rest of the 1st 11 also playing.


11.) 13 May 2020 16:32:52
RJ, for the sake of this discussion, let's assume you are right about the three you mentioned. You think Gomes will slot into their MF ahead of Kante, Mount, Pulisic, Loftus, Kovacic, Gilmour, Odoi, Jorgino or Ziyach?


12.) 13 May 2020 17:51:31
Sorry pogthedog he scored one goal in a pre season match. I presume you have unlimited access to the training sessions to say he deserves a chance? Like shappy said if you don’t show enough in training to usurp the likes of pereira and Lingard then there must be a reason why he’s not playing. Ole has been a huge advocate of playing the youth and giving chances. Chong got minutes whilst refusing to sign so I find the idea he’s not playing because of refusing to sign irrelevant.


13.) 13 May 2020 19:32:41
He can certainly play wide in rotation with Odoi, Pulisic and Ziyech. As for pure no. 10s, the only one we have is Ziyech, Mount is better when allowed to sit a little deeper.


14.) 14 May 2020 00:55:21
I like gomes but the lad has reportedly been offered 30k.
Football can be simple, greenwood produced gomes hasn't. 30k and what else should we offer him?


15.) 14 May 2020 00:56:06
My worry is that if teams like Chelsea and Barcelona want to take him what is it that they feel they can get out of him that Ole cannot.

I understand all the points raised by you guys. On one hand if he was performing at a very high level then you would think that he would get a chance to shine in the first team. He is obviously not pulling up any trees but he is young and it must be terribly frustrating if you feel that you do not have rhe managers full confidence and are not going to get a run of games to settle in and prove how good you are.

We are all very happy and surprised at how well an established international £60m player like Bruno has done in such a short time. Yet he has lots of experience and is older than Gomez. Why then do people ezpect a younger player to come into the first team and immediately perform to a high level? Also on the rare times Gomez got a game it was when the team were still struggling. I really do feel he should be given the chance to make it at Utd. I know he is not quite the same player as Grealish but I think he has more natural talent.

For me the way to go would be to give him a decent contract and send him on loan for a season. He would get the games he needs, toughen up physically, and he might appreciate how special it is to have the facilities of and play for Utd. Beckham was loaned out and it didn't hurt his prospects.


16.) 14 May 2020 07:50:19
Salford, the issue is that he clearly hasn't done enough in training to convince he should start ahead of anyone else.

Under other managers you could say that maybe they don't give youth a chance. But Ole has given more than given youth a chance. People also forget that Gomes was given three starts in the Europa League, often against weaker opposition than we play most weeks in the EPL. How did Gomes do in those games? Occasional glimpses of talent, but drifted in and out of the game far too much.

If he can't do it against the likes of Astana then he will struggle against the Everton's, Spurs, Burnley's and Sheffield United's of the EPL.

He is a hugely talented player, but he isn't ready to play at the level we play at. He needs a loan or two in order to develop.

Unfortunately his contact is about to run out and he doesn't want to sign a new deal. Maybe making his debut at 16 has made him inpatient, maybe he has been told he will get more elsewhere.

Who knows. His size will hold him back in the EPL until he learns how to mitigate his lack of physicality. In youth football if you're quick you can avoid physical battles to an extent, but men's football is played at a faster pace, and quick feet alone will not get you out of trouble. You need to read the game well and position yourself in the right areas and be two steps ahead of the opposition.

It's not a case of him just bulking up, although he does look like he could be tackled by a stiff breeze. He needs to learn how to play in the men's game. He is best off doing that on loan as he will need to play 20-30 games a season to start to learn that. He can't get that here with him playing as he has done. So a loan is the solution.

If he signs for Chelsea he will almost certainly leave on loan at some point. As they are in the same boat as us.
If he signs for Barcelona I don't see him getting a huge amount of game time. They don't tend to play with a No.10 so he would be competing for one of the wide forward roles, against Messi, Dembele, Griezmann, Fati and Braithwaite, plus whoever else the club sign this summer. With Neymar being a key target.

He needs a season in the Championship, or to move to a more technical league in Europe on loan. Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium could all be good options.

I hope he makes it, whether that's with us or somewhere else. But it's a long road yet, and he needs to realise that if he is going to make the most of his potential.


17.) 14 May 2020 10:57:20
Sadly for me, Greenwood and Williams aside this is a very underwhelming crop of youngsters, referring to those of the age where they would expect to be getting chances in the first team and making an impression. I've seen Chong the most and he has shown nothing but a haircut I'm afraid. I don't buy the fact that Gomes' size is a problem either but neither has he done enough to suggest that he is any better than the thousands of other kids clubs of this magnitude scout every season. If the tens of thousands he wants every week aren't sufficient let him go, I'm sure we'll resign him for £50m in a few years!


18.) 14 May 2020 15:32:34
Spenno, most young players don't really start to have a regular impact until they are 21/ 22 years old after a season or two as squad players.

In that respect the likes of Rashford and McTominay are starting to reach that level of impact. While Henderson could when he returns from his loan, as could Tuanzebe if he can stay injury free.

However, the likes of Greenwood and Williams are ahead of where they would normally expect for players of their ages. While the likes of Laird, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Chong and Gomes still have huge potential, but are probably a year or two away from making a serious impact in the first team beyond a few games.

That's 12 young players in total who have a chance to make a telling impact in our first team within the next few years. That's insane and at levels not really seen outside of Ajax or Barcelona.

While we have also signed AWB and Shaw who were two of the best young players in the league when we signed them. Dan James from the Championship. While we are chasing players such as Rice, Rodon, Sancho, Bellingham, Grealish etc some of the best young British talent around.

I would say we have two great groups of young players in our squad. The older group of players between the ages of 21-24 including; Henderson, Tuanzebe, AWB, Shaw, McTominay, Rashford, James and Martial.

With a younger group between 17-20 including; Larid, Williams, Dalot, Mengi, Garner, Levitt, Mejbri, Gomes, Chong and Greenwood.

Giving us 18 EIGHTEEN! players at our club who have a good chance of making it as at least good squad players, with some of them having genuine world class potential.


 

 

 

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01 Oct 2024 23:03:03
“Bruno is part of the world’s elite and has the ability to play for Real Madrid. That’s how special he is"

Thats a quote from Benni McCarthy who also said Bruno and Dalot were the only two who trained properly and that ETH lacked passion.
Maybe in a nutshell these last two statements sum up why.

Salford7

1.) 02 Oct 2024 00:08:45
Bruno is part of the problem. So too is rashford. Why are they being played for months and months when in tragic form. At this stage it is either EtH is being told to play them (in which case he should make that clear, or sub them off earlier and earlier) or he is seriously trying to play them back into form. In which case EtH is sacking himself over rashford and bruno.

Our standards are in the gutter and it starts with team selections and substitution decisions.


2.) 02 Oct 2024 00:17:29
I read the article, its fair to read the whole thing imo.

Change of subject looks like shaw is out till December now. I am assuming his issues are not a simple injury anymore and one thing breaking down after another. We have to go into the market and get a left back in Jan. Even when he eventually gets back, its hard to see how he can stay injury free and not break down again.

Also read Mainoo out hamstring injury. when it rains it pours.


3.) 02 Oct 2024 09:36:57
Dare I say Luke Shaw's injury history is probably pointing towards early retirement, like Phil Jones. He's unavailable more than he plays.


4.) 02 Oct 2024 10:01:21
Again and again I ask why we have gone into another season with no left back?
There have to be questions over Shaw, went away with England but can’t be fit for who pays his wages. His career has to be in question given the constant set backs. Amass is just too young but whoever decided that we could do without an experienced left back after being without most of last season needs to answer questions.


5.) 02 Oct 2024 11:01:18
To be fair I assumed they felt adding Mazraoui to our roster of dedicated leftbacks (Shaw and Malacia) alongside Dalot and Martinez was sufficient and I'm inclined to agree. The problem is that the two first choices have severe injury issues, they need to make a decision.


6.) 02 Oct 2024 11:03:50
Players not training properly, jeez, where do you start with that?


7.) 03 Oct 2024 02:35:48
Agree about leftback Redman. Surely the club must know that they have will not have many games this year with shaw or malacia. 50% of games will be someone filling in. I hope amas is ready second half, but he looked a bit off to be featuring in the first team too often.


 

 

18 Sep 2024 18:33:26
Crystal Palace will be a totally different kettle of fish to playing Barnsley. I really am not convinced that Utd will defend and work hard and press as a team. Also Ericsson is great when given time and space but he won't have that luxury against Palace and he also just doesn't have the athleticism of a younger player so games can pass him by. Will be interesting to see which Utd turns up.

Salford7

1.) 18 Sep 2024 18:40:52
I reckon, ten hag may play a different line up to the Barnsley game?!


2.) 18 Sep 2024 20:38:17
Honestly, I worry about every away game. I think there's still a weakness in our mentality, especially without home support and if we go a goal down. Hopefully that changes as the new players bed in.


3.) 18 Sep 2024 20:57:18
I agree Noucamp about the mentality of the players. Even at home witness the defeat to Liverpool when they seemed to be defeated once the first goal went in. Let's hope they score first and build on that and score again and increase their confidence.


4.) 19 Sep 2024 12:06:52
Listen to you big girls' blouses. We are mighty Manchester United, Rashford is on fire, Garnacho is smokin', Ugarte is a saviour, Casemiro is back to his best, Bruno is a shoe in for the Balon D'Or, I predict a 4 nil win for us.

Im just off to take my medication.


5.) 19 Sep 2024 14:11:50
I think ETH needs to playing a slightly defensive team and avoid losing first, and hope one of our forwards can score a goal.
A very mourinho like approach but Palace (A) is a hard game.

Casemiro is too slow and will struggle against palace's pacey players, Ugarte doesn't look up to speed and I do not trust Eriksen in away games like these especially against quality opponents.
Collyer was ok v/ s liverpool, and I'd personally start him or Ugarte, someone with legs and athleticism to run back if needed.

Rashford is in goal scoring form and I would play him as CF ahead of Zirkzee. If Rashford can move to either the left or the right and drag someone with him or double up wide, it could workout well for us.
I don't think Zirkzee is still match fit.


 

 

14 Sep 2024 22:38:24
Why don't we play Garnacho left wing and Ahmed Right wing with Rashford more centrally?

Salford7

1.) 15 Sep 2024 06:25:00
I think Rashford needs to be at his confident best to go central. He's proven better on the left cutting in.
And he doesn't press as well off the ball.
Enough games to see the front 3 change a few times when everyone is fit to see what works best.


2.) 15 Sep 2024 08:16:47
Rashford's strength is his explosive pace which is best utilised on the wings. You saw his confidence rise yesterday, stopped over thinking situations and acted on instinct, hopefully this attitude remains.


3.) 15 Sep 2024 12:52:34
Rashford's only position in the team should be LW. We lost the attacking threat from his pace when we have played him centrally as that's seen to best on the wings for sure. We have better options now in Zirkzee and Hojlund for the 9 position. He has been ineffective at RW.

Personally think we have a better player with greater potential also in Garnacho for that LW spot. If Amad continues his good start at RW I think this is Rashford's last season. Garnacho over Rashford is a no brainer. Appreciate we need cover and ideally 2 starting players for each position. But I don't think the new Ineos regime will accept a player on £375k a week not being one of the undroppable stars of the team. Rashford is clearly not that player.


4.) 15 Sep 2024 15:03:08
I think without Hojlund we don't have a Striker, Zirkzee or the false 9 like to come short. In that case you need a wide player high with the pace to run in behind which is Eashfords strength, its even better when the team starts looking for him there and putting that ball beyond the CB.


5.) 15 Sep 2024 16:51:51
I understand your points about him cutting in from the left but he can always interchange with Garnacho and if he is given licence to roam and if we have quick ball over the top or quick through balls the centre he can still use his pace.


 

 

10 Sep 2024 00:21:08
We all have a tendency to get excited when an a ademy talent breaks through into the first team and that can lead to extravagant claims being made about such players.

This is so counterproductive to the players long term. We need to let them learn their trade, make mistakes (as we all do on our daily work) without them fearing being pilloried by supporters and the media. There has to be a happy medium between hero and villain.

We also need to give young players a gradual introduction to the physicality of first team football and not over play them.

I can't but perhaps you can name in the last 25 years how many real world class young players Utd has had in its academy and / or nurtured into the first team. We need to invest in the future and give the likes of Mainoo a clear pathway to succeed.

Allegedly Angel Gomes had issues in his personal life to deal with and a move abroad helped settle him down. Now he is gookf to play for England and seems to have matured.

Salford7

1.) 10 Sep 2024 13:32:19
Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, come to mind. footballing ability greenwood can be another one and still young and remains to be seen.

Then there is Pogba and Morrison who went all wrong although Pogba for a stint was incredible.

Social media makes it harder and harder for young guys to break through. Quick to build them and even more quick to knock them down.


2.) 10 Sep 2024 15:35:49
Some players mature early and don't get much better. Also, when a young player springs onto the scene, they're an unknown quantity but teams quickly learn their tendencies and how to defend against them, stifling their creativity and skills, which means the player has to both rise to the next level and have a good team around them that can take advantage of the defensive posture somewhere else on the field. We simply cannot rely on the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho and other kids to do it all by themselves week after week. They will burn out.


3.) 10 Sep 2024 18:31:56
Totally agree Shawthing I worry our top youngsters will burn out because they don't have enough quality and mentally tough older players to bed them in slowly and teach them how to have a long successful career reaching their full potential. Fergie did it with hsi youngsters resting them when nec and Pep has done the same with Foden.


4.) 10 Sep 2024 21:29:46
Yep. souness spring to mind, I mean mainoo is 19.


 

 

02 Sep 2024 00:12:12
You can blame ETH for lots of things but you cannot blame him for
a) player making stupid basic errors
b) players not tracking back
c) players not making the right pass at the right time especially in forward areas
d) players not prepared to give their all for the team and fans

I honestly don't believe that ETH has failed to tell his players about these things. You can see by his reaction when goals are conceded how angry he is.

Its about time the players took collective responsibility and did their jobs and performed to the level we know they gave the potential to do.

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1.) 02 Sep 2024 01:28:07
I’m a ten hag in mate but you can blame him for picking casimiro who made the 2 mistakes after he’s been a shambles for 12 months he shouldn’t be starting

You can also blame him for starting rashford time and time again when he’s been poor for 18 months the. Takes of a garnacho for amad and leaves rashford on

His team selections and substitutes are poor

We have 3 away games in our next 4 we play Southampton palace and villa away and then spurs at home

I cannot see us winning any of those.

The team look exactly the same as last season, we can’t dominate possession because we can’t pass the ball 5 yards

Players like Bruno and casimiro just give the ball away consistently

We have a keeper who doesn’t make saves every shot a team has on target goes in

Every goal we concede is either a team running straight through the middle or a back post tap in

Ten hag will be gone by Christmas and it will be his own fault.


2.) 02 Sep 2024 02:52:17
I accept you can’t blame him directly but culture comes from within and is part of team building.

The mistakes are not in his control, I’ll give you a) and c) but b) and d) come from solid coaching. If he cannot get that across and they continue to frustrate him he needs to kick some heads and stop rewarding mediocrity like Rashford.


3.) 02 Sep 2024 06:54:59
Salford

My views were clear last season. However, the things you are saying are exactly the same as last season, what can only be classed as excuses. Woukd you have expected a good coach to have improved and cut out those errors after another preseason? We added new players who were selected yesterday, why the same shambles? Casemiro, why was he made pivotal in the midfield again? For the first goal both full backs pushed up and relied on the passing of Casemiro, is that his strength, why did we have a set up like that?
Then there is Rashford. This manager clearly has a favourite, to the extent his own fans, the Stretford End, booed him yesterday. He wanted McT to stay, we bought a Dutch trier in Zirkzee, who doesn’t look like a goal scoring CF. Oh for RVN, although even he would struggle with ETH teams tactics. This isn’t the Dutch league.
Basically he is accountable as Manager, that’s his job. You absolutely can blame him for the utter shambles again yesterday. Casemiro, Rashford and to be honest there is a growing concern about Onana.
They have thrown their hat in with ETH, but more of yesterday and it will not take long. That would or could give us the very nasty case of Southgate.


4.) 02 Sep 2024 08:06:30
Nonsense. he is the Head coach. Of course its his fault. IETH is how he will be referred to from now on.
He is an idiot and a bad manager. Completing our of his depth. Just got to wait now, what a waste of a year this will be.


5.) 02 Sep 2024 08:07:54
Can't argue with the posts above by Red Man, KEEFYT, Bolger and Salford. Something is not right. I very much blame the players but. Yes, ETH is under immense pressure and will eventually take the blame. My great fear is a rinse and repeat exercise and nothing changes. The dressing room stinks.


6.) 02 Sep 2024 08:10:31
He played Casemeiro because he didn't want to throw an inexperienced Colyer into such a match who was his only other choice as Ugarte who hadn't bn registered in time. And Casemeiro can play long and short passes properly. He did in his first season.

The main problem is still mainly our midfield Slot said so in his post match interview. He told his team to press high and knew that they would overrun and bypass or run through our midfield. If players don't track back and work hard and have not done so under several diffferent managers then the players got to take the blame

He probably took off Garnacho as the player has had hardly any time off due to playing with Argentina. He prob stuck with Rashford hoping the fixture might spark something in him



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7.) 02 Sep 2024 08:55:25
Salford
Do you know how much time Garnacho actually played in the Copa America?
That’s an excuse, a disgrace and the crowd knows it. Garnacho gives his all on the pitch and Rashford doesn’t. ETH cannot see any issue with Rashford and favourites him. It’s a disgrace and I haven’t seen that much favouritism or more exactly unwarranted favouritism for decades, if at all.


8.) 02 Sep 2024 09:06:44
Casemiro is capable of the passes - you can see it was clearly going to its target. The problem is his judgement and the the decision to play the pass with Gravenberch clearly lurking between them.


9.) 02 Sep 2024 09:15:04
The biggest issue yesterday was the managers inability to fix a middle field which was constantly getting overrun.

He should have sacrificed a forward, brought on another midfield player and played a counter attacking game, he didn't have a plan B and that in game management failure might see him gone by Christmas.


10.) 02 Sep 2024 12:47:22
Won't improve until we start playing 3 in midfield. Bruno is not playing as a midfielder. In fact I'm not sure what he's doing. He plays best at the front of a midfield diamond and this is the system we need to play if he is in the team imho.


11.) 02 Sep 2024 13:39:25
Fletch anybody that knows anything about football can see Bruno is one of our biggest problems as it stands.


12.) 02 Sep 2024 13:52:26
Tumble

Agree. Bruno is a problem and I have said that for some time, yet retained as Captain, undroppable and favourited but perhaps not as much as Rashford.


13.) 02 Sep 2024 14:57:29
Agree with you both.


14.) 02 Sep 2024 16:47:17
Good thing we got rid of Greenwood, who already scored 5 goals!


15.) 03 Sep 2024 00:20:25
Trololo you mean the same greenwood who is an abuser and a rat of human?

He could score 50 goals and still wouldn’t be welcome at this club

We might be going through a rough time on the pitch but the day we have the likes of greenwood wearing our shirt is when all identity is lost.


 

 

 

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Ole is nowhere near good enough. People have short memories.

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10 Sep 2024 18:28:04
Should be of interest as he is a very talented player and seemingly matured a lot playing abroad.

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Cutting Jimbo.

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15 Aug 2024 19:02:07
I think it's unfair to label either Casemeiro or Anthony as freeloaders.

Nobody put a gun against the heads of Utds recruitment and said they had to pay over inflated prices and salaries.

You can't blame the players for maximising their income as they have a short career and let's be honest we would all do the same as them given the chance.

Both players do try. Casemeiro had an excellent first season but in common with the whole team last his way last season. This year with decent defenders behind him and a stronger midfield ahead of himaybe he will be able to play to his strengths more. Anthony has talent but probably not good enough to cut it at the highest level. flashes of brilliance fail to hide the overall level.

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14 Aug 2024 13:50:17
Why is he deluded? Last season when injuries came he got plenty of game time and didn't let the team down. Who is to say it cannot happen again especially with Utds injury track record.

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28 Sep 2024 21:05:05
What has Allegri done with Juve recently? To me he seems to be like Jose. Was very good and still an ok manager but past his peak.

Football is changing and apart from Ancelotti it is increasingly younger managers who seem to be successful. Maybe it is because they are often wxplayers and young enough to gell with and understand a different generation.

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25 Sep 2024 23:00:42
Sad thing is that we should be beating them 4-0.

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Ha like your sarcasm.

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23 Sep 2024 16:20:13
Not that they always show the true story but Brunos stats for creating chances and goals show he is by far and away our most effective creative force. Yes he can be wasteful and lose possession or misplace a pass or six but overall without him we would be very much worse off.

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23 Sep 2024 12:48:11
Haalands reaction was done in the heat of the moment and silly and immature not a shooting offence.

With regard to dissent totally agree that it is up to the refs to impose the law. If they all act immediately there is dissent then within a few weeks it will stop.

BUT the refs also need to use common sense and communicate better with the players. A quiet word to a captain to explain a particularly contentious decision might help lessen the problem. Also rather than brandashing a yellow card immediately take ten seconds to think about whether a yellow card is warranted.

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