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23 Jan 2020 21:39:36
Wolves are a good side with a good managwr and they ay good football. Would not mind their manager.
1.) 23 Jan 2020 21:47:14
Traore, Neves, Jimenez, Neto, Moutinho can come aswell, would walk into the team aswell.
2.) 23 Jan 2020 22:23:30
Wolves have an exciting proposition as a club, there owners have a vision of the direction they want to take the club and so far it is working.
Unfortunately our owners have no vision and we are not going forward as a club despite what Ole says in press conferences.
3.) 24 Jan 2020 02:45:53
Aware they are below us in the table in our worst season for 30+ years?
{Ed047's Note - yeah that really makes all the difference 🤦♂️
4.) 24 Jan 2020 09:07:37
Aware they're level on points with us after 24 games, in only their second season since promotion from the championship?
5.) 24 Jan 2020 10:19:38
Good point bilko.
6.) 24 Jan 2020 09:58:29
Ed47,
There you go again, just sometimes worth putting it into perspective when people are raving about other teams who are soooo much better than us, that actually aren't at all.
{Ed047's Note - lets be honest here, most teams in this league are playing better football than yourselves and lets not forget what Fergie used to say, a season is 38 games, not 24.
I think it’s more than safe to say that there is a team in the league that doesn’t think they can’t get something out of a game against you.
7.) 24 Jan 2020 15:54:44
ED47,
There is not a team in the league who thinks they can't get something off you so what's your point.
{Ed047's Note - ahh here we go again, I’m guessing you thought you’d get something off of us last week then? 🤦♂️
At least we look to have a plan and the short time Arteta has been here he’s changed the players work ethic, mentality and style of play.
Your good selves on the other hand look weak, spineless, lack creativity, have no style are easily bullied out of a game and your managers out of his depth in conjunction with his hapless coaches.
That aside mate you frighten the life out of teams.
Think that lays out my point.
8.) 24 Jan 2020 19:40:44
Well that's surreal an Arsenal fan saying "here we go again"
So your plan is based on what Areta (an unproved manager) who has actually won less than Ole. Which is hard to do. A board that spends less than our board, which is hard to do.
You have wone 2 games so far under him against a rubish United team and Leeds. For the record Leeds were the better team in the fist hlaf but i didn't see the 2nd
I'm not for one mintue saying we are not in a mess, because we are.
We have a unproven manager, like yourselves, with a board who are never going to care enough to make a difference. However let's not kid oursleves you are in better shape!
You have been spineless for nearly 18 years but you act like you talk from a position of strength. Absloutley lauaghable!
We are both completley and utterly crap with bang average players and desevrve better owners. We have been crap for 7 years though and you have been that for nearly 2o!
Lets not let the facts get in the way of a good story though!
{Ed047's Note - chorlton what are you on, I never come on here talking from a position of strength, I say it like it is. I’m not like a lot on here who want to put others down to make themselves feel better.
We have been dire for years and right now I don’t care about results I care about a change of attitude that has stunk the place out for years.
The spineless weak attitude you now exude. Arteta in a few brief weeks is actually changing that. What has OGS down in 18 months, absolutely nothing.
You talk like money matters like spending £800 million will mean you’re something, we’ll it clearly means nowt.
I 100% would have Rashford, AWB and the young left back Williams, I think, the rest you can stick where the sun doesn’t shine for me mate.
Your squad is dire, every man and his dog knows it, your manager is abject and your coaches look and are useless.
But you live in that lovely dream world fella. 🤦♂️
9.) 24 Jan 2020 20:52:19
I have misunderstood then and please accept my apologies.
I thought you were coming from the angle we are better than you type of thing!
As for the money thing it means nothing if not spent wisely but spent correctly it can mean a lot.
I have an Arsenal pal from London who now refuses to speak about football as he so peed off with how bad thngs are.
That's pretty much where we are heading right now too!
As for what I'm on. just cider at the moment but the night is young!
{Ed047's Note - definitely not in the whole scheme of things mate, I just like what I’ve seen in the early weeks of Arteta’s reign.
From what we both were we are a mess but right now but I do see us as a slightly better mess.
How it all pans out I’ve no idea and I’ve said it before, we both need to get back to what we were.
How long we take again I’ve no idea mate. Enjoy the cider, have a great night and no harm done. 👍🏼
10.) 24 Jan 2020 21:16:56
Looking from the outside in would you sack Ole?
I’m now leaning towards the sack but the problems go deeper than Ole.
23 Jan 2020 09:41:31
Ed 02 with the empty seats at Old Trafford the rising levels of vocal criticism both outside and more importantly inside the ground as far as you know are the Glazers and the Board still intending to ride all this toxicity out. You have quite rightly told us the club have been like amateurs in how they do things. Has the club even realised this and taken steps to address things.
{Ed002's Note - You mean was a decision made overnight? I have explained everything, the reluctance to change manager, that a Plan B exists, that the owners do not take footballing decisions ...}
1.) 23 Jan 2020 10:09:26
well at least we have more than plan A.
ed could you clear something up which will likely stop questions about this popping up all the time.
why do the owners not take footballing decisions? i get that they are just the owners and are more bothered about there investment but why if things are going bad which will result in eventually in there investment suffering do they not have a part in what goes on in football matters?
thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Because that is not their expertise.}
2.) 23 Jan 2020 10:13:35
thanks for the reply.
3.) 23 Jan 2020 11:11:29
What are the odds on Plan B being making Ryan Giggs the next manager?
They'd get another year of protection whilst destroying the fans love for another legend.
4.) 23 Jan 2020 12:01:56
Weggy, only the fans themselves can destroy their love for a club legend.
Ole isn't a great manager, but he is doing his best and has the best intentions. If you hate him for that then that is down to you.
No matter what happens I will support Ole and still view him as a legend. He was a great and dedicated player for us. He adapted his game during his playing days to help the side out, he played a limited role at times but never complained or caused problems.
He came in as manager when things was tough. He left his home, his family and a comfortable job with his hometown club and has done his best to help out the club he loves. He clearly now isn't good enough as a manager and he isn't ever likely yo be. The club need to work out the best way to move forward.
But I personally won't ever have any bad feeling towards a man who has only ever done his best for our club.
5.) 23 Jan 2020 12:55:19
Ole will always be a legend but he is being hung to dry
But he's not helped himself.
22 Jan 2020 15:10:51
If, and it is a very big if, if Fernandes is the difference between us getting a champions league spot or not then, frankly, squabbling over five to ten million is stupid because we would more than make that up in revenue from being in the champions league. Penny wise pound foolish springs to mind.
19 Jan 2020 13:55:23
Appreciate your reply Ed. Do I infer from your reply thst they are lot the ones whoakimf the final decision about who is or is not the manager of the club? Being the owners I woukd have thought they would have the final say and have an interest (if only because of any effect on their investment) . If it is not their decision whose is it?
{Ed002's Note - They are businessmen and not football people.}
1.) 19 Jan 2020 15:02:34
That's the problem. Its all business people in positions of power. They are making decisions with no knowledge of what they are doing.
{Ed002's Note - No, you don't understand the structure at all.}
2.) 19 Jan 2020 18:20:05
I realise that this is business for the Glazers but surely they want to protect their business and the playing staff are valuable assets (some not sure valuable) . If they do not have any input into which assets ( ie players) are bought and sold who does make the final decision on buying and selling.
{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}
3.) 19 Jan 2020 20:57:09
With respect Ed it is important who actually is making the final decisions on buying and selling of players. If they get it right then they deserve credit but if they get it wrong (and let's be honest much of the time it has been poor) then they should be criticised.
Obviously having a top coach/ manager is crucial to any chance of the team succeeding but they cannot be blamed if they do not get the players they feel are necessary to bring that success (obviously that means reasonably attainable players) . By the same token if they are given those players and fail then they deserve the blame.
Woodward is clearly good at the commercial side of growing the brand. If he is not involved in selecting which players are bought or sold then it is unfair for us fans to blame him exclusively for lack of success on the pitch. If he is not to blame. the Glazers are not to blame and the manager is not to blame then who is?
{Ed002's Note - It will just lead to Koranic abuse of people the fans know nothing about. The fans of Manchester United are largely ignorant about the workings of the club.}
4.) 20 Jan 2020 05:57:18
As I understood it Ole gets the final say on who we go for based on the scouting networks recommendations, then negotiations are handled by our Head of Corporate Development with our CEO signing off the deal once the directors have agreed.
5.) 19 Jan 2020 23:43:43
That is something I agree with you. I hoping you would enlighten me and the others who would like to be more informed so that we get a better understanding of how things are decided and by whom so that we do not make rash/ stupid/ incoorecf assumptions.
I know the tabloid press and other media have an agenda which does not necessarily bear any relation to the truth about how clubs run/ do transfers and so I tend to take what wrote or say with a pinch of salt. That said it would be nice to have a much better informed view about how the club is run so that we can be fair fans not just toxic ones.
{Ed002's Note - It is not worth the grief.}
6.) 19 Jan 2020 23:45:07
Ps Ed your time in answering my questions are really appreciated and thanks. Know you get irritated at times but this is a genuine attempt to get a proper feel for what goes on.
19 Jan 2020 12:48:19
I really hope we do well today but if we get thrashed which is quite possible given our weak midfield and possibility of no Rashford too do you think that the clubs owners would then tho k about changing managers now? ED 02 do you have any insights as to the current thinking of the owners and board?
{Ed002's Note - It is not a matter for the club owners.}
21 Jan 2020 19:43:05
Expecting at least one signing but also expecting a backlash from fans when we still don't prove to progress as fast as they want. I don't think many fans would be satisfied even if we bought Messi!
14 Jan 2020 20:49:20
Last summer his fee, if you can believe any paper reports, was said to be at least £90m. I don't think his value has dropped by a third on a few months and given we paid £80m for Maguire it hardly seems credible we would get a better player for only £60m.
13 Jan 2020 23:19:23
If anything surely Poch is waiting to see how Madrid do or possibly Juve.
08 Jan 2020 23:50:50
We don't need strikers we need defensive and creative attacking midfielders.
04 Jan 2020 17:52:40
Good. I don't tate Rabiot. Not wanted by PSG or Juve should tell you he should not be wanted by Utd.
27 Jan 2020 10:15:29
Darren Fletcher. Nicky Butt Gary Neville.
26 Jan 2020 19:47:55
You are really clutching at straws if you use today's performance as a template for the future. Tranmere were poor. Probably the two matches against Watford took a lot out of them and also they are not even close to having the quality of a Premier league team.
A decent team would have pressed us more and not given us the time and space to do more or less as we pleased. Yes the goals were well taken and yes in the second half there was no imperative to press on and score more goals but at times in the second half our play was typical of what we have seen throughout the season. slow sideways and back ways passing and little guile.
Let's reserve favourable judgement on how well the team does until they play consistently well against good to top quality opposition.
26 Jan 2020 16:22:41
Bit like how city must have felt first half against us in league Cup. Seriously though it is a professional job and cannot harm confidence.
24 Jan 2020 15:21:45
Bit like buses then. Let's just not throw Ole under one he doesn't deserve it.
23 Jan 2020 23:59:40
The pitch tonight cut up really badly. With just a few days to go it can't be great to play on come sunday. It will be a real test of the players mental strength.