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21 Jun 2020 16:54:46
I know Ed02 might reply and told me don't hold my breath but if United are to change managers then I would like to see them pursue Julien Nagelsmann of Leipzig. Does he have any suitors Ed and what's the latest on everyone's favorite Mauricio Pochettino.

St.Lucia Red Devil

{Ed002's Note - There is a side in taking Nagelsmann but not immediately, and not Manchester United. Pochettino Has had discussions regarding potential vacancies with a couple of sides but nothing is decided at this time.}


1.) 21 Jun 2020 18:07:05
Thank you very much Ed. Question for you though. Apart from the usual suspects who are constantly mentioned, which up and coming manager in your opinion would be a good fit for United.

{Ed002's Note - The problem is that the structure of the club is in need of work and authority moved around. If a Director of Football were to arrive then that question would be easy to answer.}


2.) 21 Jun 2020 19:10:24
Much appreciated Ed.


 

 

27 May 2020 17:26:46
Hey Ed2 just wanted to know what's the latest if any in regards to United's pursuit of Jude Bellingham.

St.Lucia Red Devil

{Ed002's Note - As far as I know the situation remains with Jude Bellingham that Birmingham want more than £30M for the kid and know that there are clubs from across Europe interested in him, including clubs who can afford to take the risks and clubs who will give him a chance of first team football before the likes of Manchester United (who are very keen). Manchester United have done nothing to try and complete the transfer but propose a low fee and bonuses over a number of years but the player wants a road map which the club can't offer. Dortmund have continued discussions and have thought for a while that they will reach a formal agreement.}


1.) 27 May 2020 21:43:09
Amateurs at it again?


2.) 28 May 2020 08:35:01
peter?

amateurs risking offloading more than 30 million for a 16 year old child? who is no where near the level for the first team?


3.) 28 May 2020 10:33:59
I have said previously that although clearly a very talented young player I struggle to see how he fits in to a United first team.

He is too young to be loaned out, while at the same time we have Matic, Fred, McTominay, Bruno and Pogba currently as first team midfielders. While we are looking at players such as Saul if Pogba leaves. Which means at best Bellingham would be one of 6 players fighting it out for one of the three staring midfield positions. While doing so against vastly more experienced players.

A move to United will either result in time on the bench in the first team or playing Under 23's. Neither of which are better than playing every week in the Championship with Birmingham.

I think Bellingham is at a vital moment in his young career, look at Odegaard, moving to Real Madrid at 16 years old. He is only just looking like getting his career back on track now at 22, SIX years after making the move.

If he moves to a club too far up the football ladder he risks spending most of his time on the bench and stagnating. He needs game time, either continuing at the level he is at or maybe at a higher level. I think the key thing is for him to realise he doesn't have to rush. Which is probably the hardest thing to appreciate at 16 years old. He needs to believe in himself and appreciate that if he is good enough then opportunities to join the biggest clubs will always be open to him. But to be a great player you need to be playing, every week.

Look at Angel Gomes, one of the most gifted players from our academy, yet Bellingham three years his junior is rated just as highly if not a little higher based off nothing more than playing every week albeit at a lower level.

My advice to all young players is go where you will play, you learn between 20-30% of your footballing knowledge through training, the rest can only be learned and developed through playing actual matches.

Look at our own academy this season, Williams didn't make the pre-season tour squad, yet due to actually playing games this season (due to injuries) he has managed to jump ahead of players such as Garner, Gomes and Laird who were all rated higher than him this time last year.

Personally I think Bellingham is best off signing a professional contract with Birmingham, play there next season then move to a mid-tier sized club the following summer, stay there for a couple of years then move to a top level club still only aged 19/ 20 years old, but in a position to fight for a first team spot every week.

Playing for the biggest clubs is an end goal, at 16 the only goal you should be considering is how to develop yourself.


4.) 28 May 2020 12:07:30
My point wasn’t about wether the player should be signed or not. Wasn’t even to do with the amount of money being mentioned.
United clearly want the player As they are offering instalments but just fly by the seat of their pants when it comes to negotiating. Why would you not supply a road map for a young player and why would the player even need to ask for this.

Kid should go to Dortmund.


5.) 28 May 2020 12:08:18
Agree Shappy that young players only develop through playing. But if you’re good enough you’ll come through to the first team. In time. Look at Giggs and Rooney, Owen as examples. Is Bellingham in that tier though? Time will tell. Best of both worlds for United is to secure his transfer now but loan back for 2 seasons. Pogba definitely gone by then though hopefully replaced by Saul. Matic likely to leave then also.


6.) 28 May 2020 12:31:48
Halesini, He can't be loaned back until he is at least 18 years old. The rules do not allow the loan of players under the age of 18.

So if we sign him the only options are to play him in the first team, or in the Under 23's. As I have said there are significant hurdles for him to play in the first team and the Under 23's is a much lower standard than he is playing currently.

This was the issue Real Madrid had with Odegaard. They signed him but he couldn't get enough game time in the first team, but at least they could play him for the B side in the second division. Although ultimately he stagnated, he was then loaned out to three clubs I think since he turned 18 and it is only this year at the age of 22 that he has managed to kick on.

Bellingham could end up in a potentially a worse situation at United as if he doesn't play in the first team then the Under 23's is a much lower level than that the Real Madrid B team play.

I think the other examples you mention such as Giggs, Rooney and Owen all managed it with significantly less competition for places. With only one or two players in the first team fighting them for a first team spot. Bellingham would have 5 maybe 6 players he would be competing with for a first team spot.

Now although he has been impressive in the Championship, the EPL is a step up and he is very young. I would probably say he isn't ready to play most weeks for a side near the top of the EPL. The lad needs to learn to walk before he can run.


7.) 28 May 2020 13:21:49
you said amateurs at it again? in reply to the ed saying we put a low offer with addons and bonuses.


is that not realistic for a player who is 16.


not having a go just my opinion on the post.


8.) 28 May 2020 13:58:12
He doesn't need to be loaned back Shappy, we could just arrange the transfer date to be next season.

This signing isn't about plugging a hole in the squad now. It is the "biggest" club in England signing the most talented kid in England. Spend 30 million now so you don't have to spend 100 million in 3 years.

Not many are batting an eyelid at spending £150 million on Sancho. This is more than just "where does the kid play". We have rolled out the red carpet for him and his family. Got Sir Alex to show him around Carrington. Activtely trying to sign an English kid and he will turn us down to play in Germany.

This is a signing that a proactive club makes. We have been offering low balling bids that will get us nowhere. We're the equalivant of a poser that goes to the gym just to take selfies and not do the hard work. Then to keep up we take some steroids (Sanchez), short term effects look great but it will kill us in the long run.


9.) 28 May 2020 14:50:22
Mumbles, I think the issue stems from the fact that currently Bellingham hasn't signed a professional deal with Birmingham as he isn't yet old enough. So Birmingham cannot "sell" him currently. If he doesn't sign a professional deal with Birmingham then he could in theory sign for any club for just a compensation fee (which if pushed to tribunal would likely be a few million at most.

However, my understanding is the Bellingham family have agreed to sign pro-deal so that Birmingham can receive a large fee for him.

So clubs are reluctant to just agree to a 30m deal or whatever Birmingham are asking for, given that in theory he could be available for a tenth of that. While I don't think there is a rule that would allow you to sign a player now, but not register him at your club for 18 months. The closest you might get is him signing a permanent deal with Birmingham and then United agreeing to sign him for a fixed fee at the end of next season. However, I have no idea how legal that sort of arrangement would be, or why Birmingham would agree to it as depending on the market and how he develops over next season he could be worth significantly more.

While it's fair to say that in three years time he could be worth significantly more, given the current situation and the likely knock on effects in terms of transfer fees I think its right that clubs don't just jump and and throw 30m around for a 16 year old like its nothing. Likewise clubs could have spent 30m or 40m on a 17 year old Januzaj, or Macheda players who at 17/ 18 years old looked destined to become top players. Yet in hindsight that would have been an awful investment.
Barcelona thought 140m for Dembele would be a sound investment, thinking the market would only continue to grow. Yet, the kid has struggled for fitness and form and the market has dropped significantly.

We signed Nick Powell as a future England star midfielder from the Championship.

Bellingham looks a future great player, but he is 16 years old and a lot can happen between now and when he should be entering his peak years in TEN years time. He could suffer serious injury, he could go off the rails with a huge contract giving him too much too soon, or he could lose focus on football and not develop as many think he will.

Freddy Adu was going to be the next Ronaldo (Brazilian), yet he made very few top flight appearances in Europe.

The club are trying to sign the lad, and they have done several things in order to tempt him. I've stated the issues with providing a 16 year old with a "road map" into the first team. The club can't loan him out, and they certainly can't guarantee him any first team football beyond him being part of the squad and competing for a first team place.

As for the club making "proactive" signings, last summer we signed AWB, James and Maguire. Two are good young prospects who have made an impact while the eldest player signed is now our club captain. We then signed a 25 year old Bruno in January a player who in his few appearances looks like he could arguably be our best player (albeit only on a small sample size) . Ighalo might fit into your analogy of short term fixes, yet the idea of not signing a long term prospect in striker position could be linked to the club having one eye on the development of one of our own super talented young players in Mason Greenwood.


10.) 28 May 2020 15:22:07
Mumbles like I’ve already said. My point was the fact we refused to give a young player a road map. That’s what I find amateurish. If you read again you will see I make that very clear.


11.) 28 May 2020 15:34:09
We could sign Bellingham and leave him at Birmingham for a season. It wouldn't be a loan, it would be agreeing a transfer date in the future.

Your hypothetical scenarios could work for any transfer. The fact is that we are losing out on a young English target to Dortmund.

As the biggest club in England, we should not be losing out on the most promising 16 year old in the country, who we are actively trying to buy.


12.) 28 May 2020 15:38:43
Peter, what sort of a "road map" do you think the club should be giving him?

We can't loan him out, so his options are under 23's or the first team.

Are you suggesting that our club with 142 years worth of history, a club that has had some of the greatest players ever grace the turf of Old Trafford should be guaranteeing a 16 year old a place in the staring 11 ahead of Pogba, Bruno, Fred, Matic and McTominay?

You say road map like its an obvious and clear thing. What sort of guarantees should the club be giving him.

For me regardless of who you are or what you have achieved you still need to earn your starting spot.

Reports in the press suggest the club have said that if signed Bellingham has been told he will be part of the first team squad.

That in my opinion is about as far as the club can go. He might get more chances at other clubs, and if playing every week is what is important to him then good on him and he will probably have to go elsewhere to get that, he certainly will if he wants guarantees of game time.


13.) 28 May 2020 17:45:04
Shappy
The lad shouldn't get any guarantees at all with first team exactly the same as gomes if u get the chance you take it. But i would love the club to grab a young potentially good player and try to develop him inhouse. We could always make it a future transfer for next summer with then loans the season after. The club has risked a ton lately on the likes of alexis giving ddg a mass deal when we had henderson. Risking on a young lad might be a change of pace. 2-3 seasons we don't know who will be in midfield n he could or could not slot straight in but if he wants it enough I've always thought were a team that can develop some great talents. i'd love to go back to that rather than double or tripple every players wage we want to sign n then they come in and coast.


14.) 28 May 2020 17:50:17
Mumbles, what I'm saying is there is no precedent for a club agreeing the transfer of a player, but not signing them for over a year so they could stay at their current club. Let alone the issues regarding his age.

We would be in New territory and I'm not sure whether that would be within the laws of the game.

While I'm not sure what Birmingham stand to gain from agreeing to sell a player in a year's time for a fixed fee. What sort of legal protections does either side have in case of a career ending injury?

Would it still be in there best interests to play him?

I would imagine the reality is we sign him this summer or we don't. If we do then he has to stay with us until he is at least 18. Which means January 2022 is the earliest he could leave on loan.


15.) 28 May 2020 19:08:18
Reason to wait and see on Bellingham
Garner
Levitt
Gomes
Hannibal

Granted we are yet to see the role these guys and Jude will play long term and is why along with loan reason I’d wait and see.

(FM suggestion: agreed purchase date as end of next season + loan back, keeps him at Brum till 22.)

{Ed002's Note - I am not sure Dortmund will be looking to sell him next season.}


16.) 28 May 2020 22:39:30
Ed002, I'm pretty sure the answer will be no. But is it possible for a club to agree a deal to sign a player over a year in advance?

I've never heard of it, but it seems like it's something that you can do on FM, or I'm not sure where the idea is coming from.

So could United agree to sign Bellingham in the summer of 2021? And how legally binding would that be?

{Ed002's Note - Sure. Keita to Liverpool is an example. RvN to MU another. Contracts can be written and signed but no such proposal is being made.}


 

 

 

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11 Aug 2020 22:20:23
I know everyone is entitled to their opinions, but the same posters who say we should forget about player x and sign player y, are the first ones to moan if the club struggles and say player x should've been signed, or starts complaining if player y doesn't live up to their lofty expectations.

St.Lucia Red Devil

1.) 11 Aug 2020 22:32:55
So St Lucia have you come on to moan about posters who might moan if the club signs x or have you come come on to moan about the posters who might moan because we didn't sign player y?
Either way your moaning.
Your living in the paradise of st lucia you shouldn't be moaning at all😂.


2.) 11 Aug 2020 23:00:51
I'm moaning about the amount of money being spent Lucia. I think Sancho would be a huge hit with us but I think where the squad is at, that money could be spent on 3 quality players to improve our first 11 and squad.

Ken, you're living in Paradise mate. See ed002's beautiful description of Manchester. Maybe for your birthday he'll review the beautiful Louth.


3.) 11 Aug 2020 23:25:31
That's right mumbles its a bit like st lucia up here😂.


4.) 12 Aug 2020 06:12:57
St. Lucia, remember how people moaned in January that we wouldn't get top four, then moaned when we did.

Some people just like to moan, maybe it's not living in paradise that brings their mood down. Or maybe some people just prefer to look at the downside every time.

People will complain no matter who we sign and no matter how they play.

People used to come on here and complain that Ronaldo was a "show pony" for god's sake.

Don't worry about it, sit back on the beach, sip on a rum cocktail while watching the sunset and have a laugh at how silly they all are. It's what I do, but with rough cider and without the beach, while the view probably isn't as picture perfect as they ones you'll be able to enjoy.


5.) 12 Aug 2020 13:38:46
You're opinion is only valid if you have Ole Gunnar pyjamas apparently.


 

 

20 Jul 2020 16:04:06
@ Ken. That's the feeling I get when I read posts from posters on this site, and opposition fans who visit. When we lose against the so called lesser teams we're pathetic, when we beat the so called lesser teams then you hear the argument that it's only Norwich or Aston Villa and we're expected to beat them anyway. I just don't understand the logic. That's why I made the comment. When we all know beating the top 6 alone doesn't guarantee anything.

St.Lucia Red Devil

1.) 20 Jul 2020 16:14:49
I hear ya st lucia.


2.) 20 Jul 2020 16:37:21
Manchester United should be expected to beat Norwich and Aston villa.
We are one of the richest clubs in the world and should have one of the best teams in the world.
Norwich and Aston villa couldn't throw 80 million out for an average cb. They couldn't give a sanchez a fiver year contract at 500 000 a week. and then send him out on loan. They don't have our luxuries
Barcelona and Real Madrid would have the white hankeys out.
Top 4 is our new trophy.


3.) 20 Jul 2020 17:41:30
I've avoided getting involved in all this debate but I have to answer.

Leahy, yes, this season top 4 is our trophy as we are a developing side that has been torn apart by managers not suited to the Manchester United ethos.

I agree that Ole is not a world class manager but he is the person that has steadied the ship and made improvements to the squad, the style of play and the overall attitude of both the players and fans.

I also agree that we are not the top team we should be but there's a phrase that springs to mind. 'Rome was not built in a day. ' Before everyone gets on their high horse with, 'How long does it take then and how much money? ' I have no idea. But surely all the doom merchants can see that everything has improved from what we have been watching and complaining about since Sir Alex left.

My point is. Its is disappointing to lose to Chelsea and the way we lost but we have no divine right to expect to perform the way we have been permanently and beat every team that stands in front of us. I guess it's so disappointing because over these last 19, 20 games we have come to expect a certain standard (set by Ole), that wasn't met.

Everyone has an off day. let's hope we get back into the groove quickly and cement our place in the top 4, possibly even bring back a European trophy to old Trafford.


4.) 20 Jul 2020 18:02:51
That's a good post topbomin.
All is not lost.
There has been improvement since bruno came in jan i agree.
I think we will secure top 4.
I think we can win the el we have the best team in it imo if their all fit.
But i also think we will be fighting for top 4 next seaon if ole is manager. I've seen no evidence to suggest otherwise.
There are plenty of managers who can continue the good bits that ole has restored. But also get much more from the players we have and could buy in the summer.
That's my opinion.


5.) 20 Jul 2020 18:17:15
TopBomin. We have indeed played the best football post Fergie. But Ole also served up the worst football. Worst run or results and win percentage of any manager post WW2. For every great run of results there's an equally appaling run.

Reality is getting altered here though. Although the football at times is much better, the results don't seem to be. After going 19 games unbeaten and we're still 5th. That puts into perspective of how crap we were earlier in the season.

I don't like coming on here and complaining about Ole being out of his depth. But right now, after 18 months of him being in charge We go into a cup final game against a team who we bought their captain for a world record fee. A team with a manager who is out performing our manager with a inferior squad. A manager that our rivals deemed not good enough after bring them closest to winning the league in 26 years.

We do amazing to climb back into the top 4 last season and we capitulate and finish 6th. Do amazing to claw back an opportunity to get into 4th and we balls it up with some terrible in game management against Southampton.

Leicester get thumped by Spurs 20 minutes before we play an F. A semi final with a winnable final if we progress and we play the worst 90 minutes iv seen in a long time.

We now have top 4 in our grasp and the apologists are making out like Ole has reinvented the wheel.

He's done Ok. If you and the other fans are happy with mediocrity then that's ok. Don't subject me and others to fall in line and follow suit.

Over the next two games I have no idea what the outcome is. Nothing would surprise me and that's because I don't have confidence in a manager that has fluffed his lines multiple times when the pressure was on.

I hope Ole can get us there. The financial incentive for Champions League football and the penalty from our sponsors if we don't is massive. Also considering we may be able to get a higher calibre player if we achieve this will help us progress.

If Ole can't do this then all the fancy football against Norwich will be for absolutely nothing.


6.) 20 Jul 2020 18:38:48
Ken

My thoughts exactly, we can only hope he learned from yesterday and we can do something in the Europa.


7.) 20 Jul 2020 18:41:20
Ken name me the next manager you would hire?

Bare in mind he will come with a new system ans new backroom staff a new way of playing a new way of training a different approach to what players he wants.


In the last 7 years this is the best we have looked. Ole deserves some credit for that yet all the football managers on here want him hung again after 1 loss.


8.) 20 Jul 2020 18:45:59
and that would havd to be a manger who could do what jose couldn't. Because jose could close the gap on city and Liverpool over took him.


9.) 20 Jul 2020 18:53:28
I don’t think ole’s served anything as bad as that festive period under Van gaal. My goodness that was bad. If I remember right we didn’t score a goal in the first half at old Trafford for about 3 months.


10.) 20 Jul 2020 19:25:51
Bolger,
Its a good question.

Im not sure to be honest. Lots of good coaches out there.
Lots of bad ones too.

There are a couple of out of work coaches allegri poch sorting to mind.
Couple of very highly regarded coaches in Germany.
The leeds coach well regarded worldwide.
The ajax coach.
Shappy has a dossier on them all and knows more about some of these guys than i do.
Some of them are so innovative and passionate you can see why they are doing well .


11.) 20 Jul 2020 19:57:29
Jred, why does everything revert back to Jose?

You are aware Jose lost his job half way through the season last year because we were languishing in 6th?

Then Ole took over for the second half of the season and finished 6th.

Then went on to spend £220 million and we're in 5th.

What did Jose do to you? Did he not return your Christmas card?


12.) 20 Jul 2020 20:22:14
Mumbles
I think he lost his job because the team was going bavkward.
Not return my xmass card, come on that's a bit childish again .

If your looking a manager to win you you a title and don't think ole is the caliber then you have to accept neither was moyes lvg or jose .

So who is the man that has a better cv than jose or lvg . Who should we put in charge that has better credentials than jose or lvg?


13.) 20 Jul 2020 20:33:33
jred, Jose was in 6th because he came 2nd season before with a mediocre side and wasn't backed properly to push on. He was given LEE GRANT, FRED and DALOT for a title push! let that sink in. No wonder he went stir crazy and wanted out.


14.) 20 Jul 2020 20:49:07
History shows you give Jose what he wants and he delivers titles. Our board decided we weren't interested in competing at the top of the league.

I personally would hire Pochettino. I like how he sets his teams up. Has shown he can do it at each club he's been at, consistently over achieving each and every season.

Pochettino probably wouldn't touch us to be honest. Nuno would improve us no end and so would Rodgers. There's three. There's also Bielsa, Ten Haag, Nagelmann. There's plenty of coaches who would be very confident with the resources and squad available.

Ole hasn't don't anything special with this group. Nothing at all.


15.) 20 Jul 2020 20:49:18
Dan
He was 6th in his first season he spent a fortune but couldn't close the gap on city .
So that 6th 2nd and sacked but the closes he got to was second 19 points behind city .
He was 24 behind chelsea in his first season when he spent a fortune.
Lvg spent a lot and didn't get any closer . So who are these mangers that will do a better job thsn them an why?


16.) 20 Jul 2020 21:05:21
Do you honestly think there is no manager in world football that we could acquire that would do a better job than Ole?


17.) 20 Jul 2020 21:06:14
Mumbles so rodgers would do better than jose?


18.) 20 Jul 2020 21:13:55
Not every signing works out its not FIFA.


19.) 20 Jul 2020 21:15:55
No I don't think Rodgers would do better than Jose's 2nd Jred.

I think he would take the squad that Jose had and added £220 million of talent, I think he would have us higher than 5th.


20.) 20 Jul 2020 21:25:47
Jred

“your looking a manager to win you you a title and don't think ole is the caliber then you have to accept neither was moyes lvg or jose”

Moyes I accept, utter joke to appoint him, however, like or hate him Jose has won with different clubs, the biggest prizes as well.

I don’t think Ole has anywhere near the calibre to be Manager of United, it is obvious if your vision is not clouded by sentiment.


21.) 20 Jul 2020 21:30:31
All about Jose 😂 obsessed.


22.) 20 Jul 2020 21:37:45
Redman
The closet jose got at united was 19 points of top . So who would you have that is better than jose?
I honestly think we are going in the right direction, nothing to do with ole as a player
Mumbles
Jose took over a squad that had finished joint 4th and won the fa cup . Spent 170mil plus zlatan on a free, back when 170 was lot . Breaking the world transfer record for pogba . And finished 6th .
So how does that compere to oles first full season?


23.) 20 Jul 2020 21:36:52
So Jred. No manager that we could get that would do a better job than Ole?


24.) 20 Jul 2020 21:42:18
jred

In Jose first season he won EFL Cup and Europa League
Second season he came 2nd place that is progress to me.
Third season not backed and was sacked.

The play wasn't great but he knew what he was doing with the right mentality in the players.


25.) 20 Jul 2020 21:44:13
Jose would have lost his job if we didn't win the Europa. As I have said for a long long time, if Ole can't secure Champions League football for next season then he should be sacked.


26.) 20 Jul 2020 21:46:08
mumbles
Yer of course there are but there are no guarantees. And to be honest unless you had pep of kloop who imo are the best 2 in the world there would always be an other option .
You have said nuno do you honestly think there is no mansger who could do a better job than nuno? Or how about you answer my question on jose first season?
And who would do s better jo than jose?


27.) 20 Jul 2020 21:50:42
dan
The first season he finished 6th we finished 4th and won the fa cup the previous season.
Second season he got 2nd .
This is ole first full sesson, should we not see where he finishes.


28.) 20 Jul 2020 21:52:04
I don't think jose would if lost his job if we hadn't won the europa.


29.) 20 Jul 2020 22:02:13
The point was Jred, name a manager better than Ole. I said a few names. There's literally 100's managers who would achieve more than Ole.

He was lucky to get the job in the first place. He was lucky to keep it. If he can't secure Champions League football then he centainly doesn't deserve to carry on.


30.) 20 Jul 2020 22:09:57
Mumbkes
You keep asking questions but avoid answering them .


31.) 20 Jul 2020 22:41:35
What havnt I answered Jred? The question about Nuno? There are better managers of course. Pochettino in my eyes could transform us into a title challenging team.

The reason I named Rodgers and Nuno and Ten Haag and Nagelsmann to name a few is there are a plethora of better managers, especially the lads in the Premier league who are performing above expectations.

Pochettino is the man to take us where we are and improve upon our position.

Anyways, this is tedious. You've shown that you would keep Ole as manager regardless of how he performs. Me and the other posters have tried to get our point across for months about the issues but you can't see it, maybe you don't want to.

Let's hope Ole and the lads can get a couple of good results so we can focus on improving next year.


32.) 20 Jul 2020 22:44:12
Wouldn’t bring Rodgers in. Vastly overrated manager. If they don’t make 4th ahead of us given the gap then serious questions need to be asked.


33.) 20 Jul 2020 23:02:10
Mumbles
Tedious? You don't want to answer an inconvenient question.


34.) 20 Jul 2020 23:12:19
What is the question?


35.) 20 Jul 2020 23:12:59
I wouldn't have Rodgers either caolan but he's a better manager than Ole, that's the point.


36.) 21 Jul 2020 07:34:50
Mumbles, I’m sorry but Rodgers is a bang average manager at best. Leicester started the season incredibly well but that is mainly due to the fact that he has a lot of top quality players in that squad. And over the course of the season Leicester have gone from very good to very bad, in a very short space of time, whereas over the same period United have gone from awful to pretty good, and are arguably playing the best football United have played this decade. And yet you think Rodgers is a better manager than Ole? I’m sorry but that’s laughable. Of course there are better managers in the game that may well be attainable, Simeone, Allegri, Pochettino, Nagelsmann among others, but Simeone and Allegri don’t play the right style of football. Pochettino hasn’t yet won any trophies, and neither has Nagelsmann, not to mention he has only managed at the top level for a few seasons.

This is still only Ole’s first full season in charge, let’s see where we finish this season at least, and let’s see what we achieve in the Europa League as well. If we finish top 4 in the league and win the EL, combined with reaching the semi finals of both cups, then that would be best season United have had in a long time. There’s no guarantee either of those things will happen of course, but I think we’ve got a very good chance at both.


37.) 21 Jul 2020 08:02:15
I don't understand the obsession with Poch.
He chokes in the end always.

Yes, he plays a good style of football, but hasn't shown any trophy winning pedigree.


38.) 21 Jul 2020 08:15:23
Jose wasn't backed because he wanted to sign pkayers who would be retired now.

He didn't suit the club he was hired because we panicked that city got pep

Short term success for long term failure would have been the result.

People want poch who has a worse cv than ole, he's won nothing yet people explode everywhere for poch.

There is no doubt he is a good manager and has done a good job with spurs but he won 0.


39.) 21 Jul 2020 09:19:28
Roy Keane is going to be named on Sept 1st with Scholes as assistant and Gary Neville as DOF. #shouldofstuckwithjose.


40.) 21 Jul 2020 09:53:16
I like Poch. Always did. But the fact is, he was in charge of the best Spurs team in years, yet still couldn't win a trophy with them, most notably in the year Leicester won the title. A Spurs team that most on here thought far superior to ours. What convinces people he'd suddenly be able to fashion a title winning team here?


41.) 21 Jul 2020 09:56:18
Ole has a better cv than poch bolger? How do you make that out?


 

 

15 Jul 2020 22:35:02
Just putting it out there. Don't expect any favours from opposing sides during this run in against our rivals for top four. Especially from Liverpool. They've already won the league. So I wouldn't be surprised if they fielded a weaker team for their remaining fixtures.

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1.) 15 Jul 2020 22:42:28
I don't see the scouse losing 2 in a row I think they will beat Chelsea.


2.) 15 Jul 2020 23:02:42
Teams are having a real go at them now and it just shows how just being a few percent off your best can result in losses.

Liverpool have nothing to play for and if Chelsea play at their best they will win.


3.) 15 Jul 2020 23:41:38
Scousers will finally be lifting the trophy that night so I’m hoping for a full strength team and a big win for my second favourite team 😂.


4.) 15 Jul 2020 23:08:18
I think they played well and they was unlucky. Ofcourse they want to win all matches for their history but ofcourse as far as they won the league they can't have the same concentration, they are humans.


5.) 16 Jul 2020 03:42:29
As far as I know, they’ve missed out on pretty much every record they were set to break now, so there’s nothing to play for but pride.


6.) 16 Jul 2020 08:37:24
Redseven as far as i know they have just win the league so i'd say their are already bursting with pride.


7.) 16 Jul 2020 09:36:54
Not saying that Liverpool don't try quite as hard but the scouse fans would not be too disappointed if they lose to Chelsea and it helps stop us reaching the champions league.


8.) 16 Jul 2020 11:28:42
Salford that game isn't as important as ours tonite, if we win our remaining fixtures we qualify for CL automatically.


9.) 16 Jul 2020 13:25:01
Cant see salah or mane staying quiet against chelseas back 4 the way they've been playing since the restart.


 

 

31 May 2020 16:24:24
Ed02 any further info you can provide based on the revelation made by Saul?

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{Ed002's Note - I don’t know what he has said. Sorry.}


1.) 31 May 2020 22:09:11
He has said he will be announcing a new club in 3 days on his official twitter account.


2.) 01 Jun 2020 15:13:57
I think it's a new 6 Iron he has picked up from Bale.


 

 

18 Apr 2020 19:57:41
Have no problems with Pogba being sold. But to include players that Real and Juve deem surplus and expect United to accept them in any deal, doesn't seem right in my book. Whose to say that the players being offered are interested in joining the club or the club are interested in them. Could be another Pogba situation all over again if the club yields.

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{Ed002's Note - Few would want to take the step down.)


1.) 18 Apr 2020 21:59:06
Well if that's the case and how the club is viewed at the moment rightly or wrongly, its best the club just cut it's losses and accept a lower bid (which they won't) and focus on getting players who genuinely want to play for the club .


2.) 18 Apr 2020 22:22:16
Ed002, I appreciate United haven't shown a willingness to look at players being included in a deal for Pogba as yet, however, if we are to get rid this will likely have to change.

Due to this, our need for a right winger and the ludicrous cost of Sancho, do you see United opening up to the possibility of Bale being included in a deal from Real for Pogba? They obviously want rid of him, United have been linked for most of the past decade with Bale and even though it probably wouldn't be a wise decision, United aren't really known for being particularly wise in the market. I'd also imagine Bale might have some interest as I'd imagine there aren't many other leading sides looking at him for the summer?

Thanks and hope everyone is keeping safe.

{Ed002's Note - I would discount Bale.}


3.) 19 Apr 2020 14:29:31
Bale? why would you want Bale at united? Bale is a no no in my eyes and Utd should forget pursuing players that don't want to be here, we need to focus more on players with Fernandes attitude towards the club, I hope the club gets rid of pogba and Matic and bring in young new exciting players instead of all these superstars that won't put in 100% in the games. A right winger is really needed, i think it would immediately change our game.


4.) 19 Apr 2020 23:54:01
I wouldn't say Pogba will be taking a step down going to Madrid, maybe to Juventus.


 

 

 

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20 Jul 2020 11:53:02
According to the narrative we actually haven't been playing great. We have only beaten relegation teams or teams struggling in the bottom half since the restart, so that's an automatic 3 points since we were expected to beat them anyway. When we can beat the top 6 convincingly Everytime we meet them only then we would have made progress. Beating the smaller teams doesn't count.

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23 Jun 2020 23:59:27
If Pogba wants to leave then the club should negotiate the best deal possible. I just don't like the idea of Juve/ Madrid offering players that they want rid of in any potential deal. If their no good for their respective clubs then their no good for Man United regardless of the club's current circumstances/ position in world football. We need players who are committed to helping us get back to the top and not players who view us as a step down.

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21 Jun 2020 19:10:24
Much appreciated Ed.

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21 Jun 2020 18:07:05
Thank you very much Ed. Question for you though. Apart from the usual suspects who are constantly mentioned, which up and coming manager in your opinion would be a good fit for United.

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{Ed002's Note - The problem is that the structure of the club is in need of work and authority moved around. If a Director of Football were to arrive then that question would be easy to answer.}


 

 

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27 May 2020 11:47:52
Yeah. Based on what I've seen on the Liverpool page, seems his head has been turned after being tapped up/ illegally approached by Klopp.

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29 Aug 2020 20:42:32
According to the protocol already established, we won't be signing anyone and he's off to Barca. That reporter clearly has no inside knowledge into the runnings of Barcelona. Not discrediting what you posted. Only going along with the flow.

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23 Aug 2020 14:07:27
Try calling the club. Might get the answer to your question.

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22 Aug 2020 18:00:16
The problem with most posters on this site is they have such high expectations of the club (nothing wrong with that) that when the club doesn't meet those lofty expectations they start to complain and belittle the club. Nothing wrong in wanting United to be the best again, but we have to accept the current situation and realise it's going to take time to become the force we once were. Comparing our club to other clubs or belittling our players ain't going to help. To those who can't wait, am sure the more progressive clubs wouldn't mind the extra support.

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18 Aug 2020 00:25:52
Please don't. These are the same players which many on here complained were not United quality. When the club got rid of them everyone rejoiced that the Deadwood was being cleared. Now that there performing in a league many consider inferior to the Premier League, suddenly they're now good enough.

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17 Aug 2020 03:24:10
I nominate the new Messiah "Mikel Arteta".

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