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09 Jul 2019 19:19:03
Ed are Barcelona interested in signing v lindelof.

jred

{Ed002's Note - No, I am not aware of any approach by Barcelona to Manchester United for him but as early as tomorrow night they may be re-evaluating their centre back options. I would think that Victor Lindelof’s future at Manchester United will be something his agent will be thinking about seriously not wanting to get stuck in the abyss with what is in reality a Championship level manager and a club who are planning on a record breaking expenditure on a series of knee jerrk reactions. I am sure they would love to get him in the Barcelona squad.}


1.) 09 Jul 2019 20:17:09
@Ed002

You're about to send the site into meltdown with comments like that mate although its the hard hitting truth that Solskjaer is out of his depth and should never have been given the job. He appears clueless and looks like a kid with a smile on his face who can't believe that he's got the job while everything seems to be falling around him.

I'd be interested to know what knee jerk reactions you are mentioning Ed002? Milinkovic Savic and Maguire?

{Ed002's Note - It is not a smile - simply wind.}


2.) 09 Jul 2019 20:25:25
It was on Sky before, where the player was questioning his future at United.

What can you do?

If you keep the Muppets on high wages, with no chance of competing for a decade and spend stupid money on has beens, obviously a decent player and agent is going to agitate for a move away to a club who can compete.


3.) 09 Jul 2019 20:27:57
Ed002 - can you shed any info on the knee jerk reactions?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I have done it over and over.}


4.) 09 Jul 2019 21:05:43
I would guess it’s Harry Maquire.


5.) 09 Jul 2019 21:20:24
he is in the same boat as frank lampard.

{Ed001's Note - not really, Lampard is being surrounded by football advisors and helpers with experience.}


6.) 09 Jul 2019 20:57:34
Absolutely agree. We are embarrassed and rudderless.

Question to the Oracle. Who will replace Gonner?


7.) 09 Jul 2019 21:01:18
Or the club can realise what is in front of them, sack OGS and get someone else in urgently before the window closes. Someone we can rally round and survive this season before it goes too far.


8.) 09 Jul 2019 21:46:40
May 2020 and i bet Ole will be sacked by then. wouldn't these players look at the bigger picture and think to themselves that if the manager isn't good then he won't last long.

Interesting times ahead.


9.) 09 Jul 2019 22:10:33
Love the positivity lads. Geeesshh. Ole is our manager. He will not be leaving in the immediate future. Why not get behind our manager who has his first transfer window to sort out this mess of a squad. Ole isn't on his own here either. Do you not think players with the right attitude would like to work with Mike Phelan and Michael Carrick? The high profile manager (Van Gaal and Mourinho) hasn't worked. How about trying a club man with the right management team around him?! Getting sick of the negativity.


10.) 09 Jul 2019 22:03:36
Jesus, that's a depressing read ed002. What are this club doing?


11.) 09 Jul 2019 22:17:20
Hah bloody marvelous. you all shot me down when I said ole will be gone before Christmas. now ya sacking him before season starts.
Football fans eh, who'd have em.


12.) 09 Jul 2019 23:11:13
You mean, someone you can rally round Red Man.


13.) 10 Jul 2019 01:10:46
Lindelof is going nowhere that's for sure.
When the window shuts we will know the squad and then it will be time to assess what realistic expectations are.
Unless there are 3 or 4 more signings and the same leaving ole has no chance no manager would.
The signings will come and the exits will leave in confident of that.
Im excited for the season ahead.


14.) 10 Jul 2019 01:12:50
Wow this site is full of negativity. Who knows if ole will fail or prosper? City and pool didn’t need much n haven’t done much upto now. Leicester have signed a player they had on loan. Not many other clubs have done much as of yet. Whilst I agree that if we start the season with our current squad we will endure a tough season but to write it off before it’s started and to already decide ole is a failure is terrible. I used to love supporting Utd and visiting these forums but they make dour reading these days. The whole thing above because an agent made a throw away remark about his client attracting interest from other clubs your all in meltdown. It seems a lot of you are waiting to say told you so? God help ole with the “support” he’s getting from our “supporters”.


15.) 10 Jul 2019 06:38:23
Nou

I mean someone the players and supporters recognise can do the job and have confidence in. If the club had undertaken the due diligence at the end of the season do you really think OGS would be the manager now? If Poch or Allegri were the manager would you and I mean you have more confidence for this season and future ones? Given the number of disenfranchised players seemingly wanting to leave I sense no confidence inside or outside the club of the top structure down and belief in the appointment of OGS is likely one but not the only reason we have struggled to get players in.


16.) 10 Jul 2019 07:41:54
All ready shouting to sack the the manager.
Dear me.


17.) 09 Jul 2019 23:22:13
Good way to bring out the toxic ed002 😋.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Ithaca best stop saying anything on the is page again.}


18.) 10 Jul 2019 07:48:02
From Ed002's comments, it feels like we are about to break the bank and pay premium price for someone?
I'm guessing Maguire and SMS.


19.) 10 Jul 2019 08:41:39
The records broken Red Man.


20.) 09 Jul 2019 23:14:16
Question for Ed2 - why did the board not back a winner like Jose but are about to spend millions backing a relative novice in OGS?

{Ed002's Note - This is what I said soon after he arrived:

"It was a bad move to appoint Mourinho and a bad move for him to accept. He doesn't see MU as a progressive club that will adapt to what he thinks they need. He doesn't like being in Manchester and there are those there who still see a blue tinge surrounding him. There was a major error in taking on Ibrahimovich - it is disruptive with the kids (although one specific issue has been overcome) and he wanted to move elsewhere. Mkhitaryan is a disaster waiting to happen. Pogba's career belongs in Spain or Italy - certainly not Manchester. Four players have been told they can go in January (and that is pretty much unheard of)."}


21.) 10 Jul 2019 04:28:02
@ed002 Barcelona match United in spending big and buying players who don't fulfill expectations and are trying to offload now. Coutinho, Dembele etc.
Neymar moved to PSG and now want to come back to Barcelona like Pogba came back for United.
Messi even told once Barcelona are signing substandard players who don't deserve to play for the club.
Players want to Join Barcelona because they have Messi without Messi in two or three years Barcelona will lose its fear factor.
OGS may be a championship manager but if Lindelof wants to play under the best manager he needs to go to Liverpool or City not Spain.
Liverpool won the UCL and almost won the PL playing that good in a wildly tougher league than in spain where it was virtually a freerun to the title for Barcelona and Barcelona lost to pool in the UCL where in the first leg Match they were outplayed comfortably in Nou camp and only Messi's magic gave that lead. Barcelona is also in a downward spiral as well, only easier Spanish league and Messi's magic slow down the downward spiral a bit for time being.

{Ed002's Note - Whilst you might have the Kleenex out for Klopp - he has won nothing else for years and years. This is a ridiculous post.}


22.) 10 Jul 2019 09:20:23
Hi Ed002,

Thanks as always for your honest opinion about United and for all the priceless info you very kindly provide.

You’ve raised the issue of the manager at a club being a reason why a player might want to join/ not join a club. Obviously the biggest draw would appear to be Guardiola but I can imagine Zidane and Pochettino are attractive bosses too.

In your honest and valued opinion, would you mind suggesting a couple of other managers who players see as a reason for going to a club please?

Many thanks Wallace.

{Ed002's Note - Quique Setien, Marcello Lippi, Ricardo Gareca, Max Allegri, Jose Mourinho ....}


23.) 10 Jul 2019 10:00:17
@Ed002 Liverpool set the benchmark last season I used them and Klopp as an example. Klopp, Wenger are better managers than Mourinho who is a serial winner of almost all the trophies. Those who appreciate the quality of football klopp, Wenger plays agree with me.

{Ed002's Note - You seem to have little grasp of reality.}


24.) 10 Jul 2019 09:46:53
Wow, that was a quick reply!

Many thanks Ed002!

{Ed002's Note - It was an easy question.}


25.) 10 Jul 2019 10:32:38
Ed002, sorry if this is a silly question:
You had stated, "as early as tomorrow night they may be re-evaluating their centre back options"
Does this mean the club is moving to new CB targets because of the inflated market?

{Ed002's Note - No, it means that as early as tonight Barcelona are re-evaluating their centre back options. It is nothing to do with an inflated market.

Perhaps they will soon pop along and see if they can help Lindoff to get out of the club?}


26.) 10 Jul 2019 10:55:32
002 you seem to have some incredibly strong fishing bait for bringing the toxics out of the woodwork!

I can see it's going to be another wonderful day of reading ridiculously negative posts on here today 🙄

#OleOut.

{Ed002's Note - I will now be very much limiting telling the truth on this page then. It is not worth the grief - I am sure you will get on much better without me explaining what is going on.}


27.) 10 Jul 2019 11:00:42
Thanks Ed.
Lindelof is the last player we would want out of the club.
Many posters even suggested him as a potential captain.


28.) 10 Jul 2019 11:21:15
Woah sorry Ed, my post was aimed at the ridiculous comments on a few threads in the past 12 hours or so, not your updates!

I thought my hash tag at the end got the sarcasm across, sorry for the confusion!


29.) 10 Jul 2019 14:07:40
I'd love to see Ricardo Gareca taking charge of one of the biggest clubs in world football what he has done with Peru is nothing short of spectacular in my opinion.


30.) 10 Jul 2019 15:43:19
does every manager not start of as a nobody.

10 years ago poch was unheard of and now he is regarded as a decent manager,

klopp has even been relegated as a manager and people think he's the best.

my point is proof is in the pudding and untill ole has a fair crack at the whip i feel its abit un called for with all the slagging off he gets.


31.) 10 Jul 2019 16:15:37
Catch up on threads here.

Ed002 gets asked a question, provides an answer that triggers, then gets triggered himself and then leaves.

Hopefully there's pod before see Ed002 on the other side of the window.


32.) 10 Jul 2019 17:13:51
The answer was provocative.


33.) 10 Jul 2019 17:16:53
united road. why can't we all just have a simple debate with no slagging off.

this page is becoming petty.


34.) 10 Jul 2019 18:54:50
The page is getting petty that's the point. Posters are asking Ed's questions but then don't like their answer (opinion) and reply posti g negatively which provokes other posters and editors who volunteer to time and info to the site.

Decent debates are a rarity these days.

Props the guys who made this site a lot more fun - ngiak, RFT, Syd, Ronnie.

All toxicity, defensive, negative life imitating art.


35.) 10 Jul 2019 20:44:40
To be fair, UR, most of the questions I've read on here recently, have been put politely and respectfully. All of our questions, unless we're heavily involved in the football industry, are coming from a certain degree of ignorance. That's why we ask the Eds in the first place. I know it must be a pain in the hoop seeing the same questions, but just put different ways, over and over again. But I think a certain Ed has been particularly provocative, today. Almost as if he's engineering a way out 😁.


36.) 10 Jul 2019 16:42:19
Keeping telling the truth ed002, it really is appreciated. Ignore the idiots.


37.) 10 Jul 2019 23:37:43
Cheers Ed for answering my thread

Seems rather political at OT!


 

 

18 Dec 2018 13:55:37
Solskjaer name had been mentioned.

jred

{Ed002's Note - Regardless of him managing the reserves for a few years it would be high risk in my view. It would be an enormous step up from Molde so it is hard to be confident it would work.}


1.) 18 Dec 2018 14:11:01
It's a risk but then again itsxonly for the next 5 month .

{Ed002's Note - Why would he leave his job for such an offer then?}


2.) 18 Dec 2018 14:16:51
Any information that suggest that board is happy with Woodward and he will continue in his current role.
Would DOF takeover him later on the footballing front.


3.) 18 Dec 2018 15:05:46
Maybe get paid 3x the salary over the next 5 month and raise his profile .

{Ed002's Note - I think that is a pretty dreadful thing to say. You ceratinly don't deserve anyone decent at the club with so called supporters saying things like that.}


4.) 18 Dec 2018 15:11:31
We're not entitled to anyone and anything Jred.


5.) 18 Dec 2018 15:22:50
I think the guys already fairly well known an maybe he likes managing his hometown club.


6.) 18 Dec 2018 15:27:50
Isnt the whole OLE rumour based on the fact the Norweigan league shut down 3 weeks ago until March, the tabloids are jumping on the fact he is sitting at home watching countdown for 3 months so why not? (ignoring the fact he still has work to do with Molde in the off season)


7.) 18 Dec 2018 15:30:48
It's not Ole, his tenure at Cardiff was not great. Apparently it will be an ex-player. Steve Bruce anyone.


8.) 18 Dec 2018 15:35:53
Could Giggs job share with Wales?

{Ed002's Note - Sure, it gives him an excuse when things go wrong.}


9.) 18 Dec 2018 16:24:54
Hi Ed002, hope you’re well. You’ve previously mentioned Berta and Campos regarding a DOF role. Are there any further names being considered, possibly even left-field options?

{Ed002's Note - I have dealt with this at length before. Nothing has changed.}


10.) 18 Dec 2018 16:45:45
I have looked at previous posts now and you gave us some good suggestions. Thanks again, hope you have a quiet evening!

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


11.) 18 Dec 2018 17:09:25
Blanc can be the only serious contender surely?

{Ed002's Note - To a large extent the press release has been a self inflicted wound. I have no doubt that Laurent Blanc would take the job on a permanent basis but perhaps he feels his "hands would be tied" (I am paraphrasing) if he would simply be asked to coach until the end of the season with little or no control over players or transfers in January? If he really wants the full time job and I am sure that there is a concern that if he is constrained as an interim it may not go well as it could and could then potentially exclude him from the opportunity in the summer. For me is would be an excellent choice for the club in the long term. If it is going to be simply an interim role Solskjaer and Phelan may do a decent job but it means Manchester United don't have a good long time solution. OGS would need to leave his current job after MU negotiate with his club and, good or not (at the very least risky), could easily find themselves at a loose end in June. Perhaps the club should reconsider how they are looking to transition to a new coach and at least give a good opportunity to an interim coach to get the role on a full time basis.}


12.) 18 Dec 2018 18:26:18
United saying that we will appoint an external interim manager until the end of the season within 48 hours led me to believe that they had someone already lined up. If this isn't the case then why even mention it? As a precursor to any manager taking over that they're not permanent and don't expect any money in January or a say on which players stay or go?


13.) 18 Dec 2018 20:13:07
As someone who watched OGS throughout his time at cardiff (from his appointment, to the relegation and to the subsequent firing while in the championship), I can confirm that he was in my opinion the worst manager we have had in my time as a supporter. Defensively he was woeful, going forward we looked confused and overall we had absolutely no plan. He made selection decisions which absolutely mystified the fans, e. g. playing our best midfielder at left back (more shocking as he was slow and couldn't defend) . Not only were the results bad but his signings were out of their depth and he left the club in a position which we are only just now recovering from. If he does take the united job, it would surprise me if he makes it till May.


14.) 18 Dec 2018 22:16:01
Hi guys not posted on here for ages as I lost my username RRED7

Really don’t want to be sentimental and watch Ole ruin his legacy at our club, Someone who can cement the players and instantly have their respect would be the candidate for me and Blanc I think fits that bill. He would probably regardless of your opinion of him get the best from Pogba who if you believe all the rumours has been a catalyst of Jose getting the boot. I honestly think we will see a different Pogba now who will put a shift in.

I don’t like what he has done this season or today with his tweet but he has the potential played the right way to ignite us.


15.) 19 Dec 2018 07:11:07
Pogba should be next out the door.


16.) 19 Dec 2018 11:52:02
The problem with hiring Blanc for a team built around Pogba, Martial, Rashford, Lingard, Bailly, Fred, Young, Lukaku:

goo.gl/FXPyN7


 

 

22 Nov 2018 15:58:43
Ed any truth in the rumour Madrid are interested in Rasford.

jred

{Ed002's Note - Yes there is interest from Real Madrid and Juventus to some extent.}


1.) 22 Nov 2018 17:00:35
Why would they want him? He's rubbish, even the great, the wonderful and the all knowing Jose Mourinho can't get the best out of him.

Clearly he can't be any good.


2.) 22 Nov 2018 16:53:22
Cheers ed.


3.) 22 Nov 2018 17:11:11
Loads a talent going to be a good player . Hopefully at United.


4.) 22 Nov 2018 18:04:24
Shappy, I think your single minded hatred is slowly damaging your reputation on here.


5.) 22 Nov 2018 20:15:39
Agreed Fresh.


6.) 22 Nov 2018 20:38:27
Be careful shaps don't want to be one of them players who just come on to have a rant about certain players .

To be fair to shappy he does make some good points about Jose and asks some Interesting questions.
That people either miss or choose to ignore .


7.) 22 Nov 2018 21:35:18
+1 Fresh.


8.) 22 Nov 2018 22:31:51
There are a lot of people don’t rate Rashford and would be happy to see him sold. Yet Madrid and Juve must see something others don’t.


9.) 22 Nov 2018 23:09:16
Played in more games than anybody else last season as a 20 yo more than players like scholes becks butt did at the same age. I think he is doing fine. The manager sees the same perhaps ajh.


10.) 22 Nov 2018 23:13:41
The reason Madrid and co are interested in Rashford it is because he is going to be cheaper then their first choice targets.

It is one thing to play in la liga and serie A then playing in the premier league.

I also think if Mourinho stays then one of Rashford or Martial is not going to get the games they want as Mourinho is under pressure to win and he won't win with two rookies who are still learning their game.

It is best for Rashfors to move to get important game time. He could even go on loan to a premier league to get game time and then come bk to our club when he is ready.

We have become a cosy club and need to be ruthless in decision making.


11.) 23 Nov 2018 00:02:46
Singh
So you think we should get rid of a rookie like martial who has scored in his last 5 games and buy who .
A world-class player like Sanchez?

Maybe Madrid and juve are interested in Rasford because they can see the potential of a 21 year old player playing for England and United.

I have taken a step back from the site to be honest because some of the views and insights really have changes from a few year back.


 

 

26 Sep 2018 10:02:11
Just read this sums it up for me

Where was the game plan, the identity, the intensity? Echoing Paul Pogba's words, the man who was unceremoniously relieved of his duties as stand-in skipper, the Stretford End chanted 'attack! attack! attack!

jred

1.) 26 Sep 2018 10:47:54
Come on Jred don't try to think rationally.

Just blame Pogba.

After all, it's Pogba's fault Frank Lampard who has been in management since June and his team plays better ball than Jose.


It's also due to Pogba's haircut, social media antics, lack of commitment and respect to the club that made Mourinho who so much loves and respects the club say Man United have no football heritage after we lost to Sevilla.


Also, regardless that Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham were below us last season and the fact that they lost more games than us but were never outplayed by Wolves, Huddersfield, Derby and the likes at home within the matter of a few days, Mourinho had nothing to do with it. It was all Pogba's fault.


Even the fact that we cannot count 15 games we utterly dominated throughout without looking vulnerable or likely to lose the said games at a point in the last 3 years cannot be Mourinho's fault - it's all Pogba's.


That's probably why Juventus kicked him out because he's a no-good, pre-madonna who only cares about his looks, social media and running his mouth to the press.


2.) 26 Sep 2018 12:31:23
The Stretford usually chants attack attack attack and they did so last night but tbh not until in the 94th minute.


3.) 26 Sep 2018 12:36:04
Very much his scapgoat last year, herrera must be pleased it isn't him this season.


4.) 26 Sep 2018 12:49:10
pre-madonna haha love it.


5.) 26 Sep 2018 19:12:05
Keep hearing about pre-Madonna's. Do we have any post-Madonna players?


6.) 27 Sep 2018 15:25:46
What we need are current-madonnas.


 

 

27 Aug 2018 16:52:08
A lot of talk matic will play in a back 3 tonight.

jred

1.) 27 Aug 2018 17:41:22
That's pretty much how he was utilised a lot last season anyway.


2.) 28 Aug 2018 19:41:51
And as it panned out it looked like we played nobody at the back.


 

 

 

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24 Aug 2019 13:32:09
I would like to see gomes get some time off the bench today.

jred

1.) 24 Aug 2019 14:07:24
Not going to happen didn't make the bench. i'd say cabero cup or any dead rubber in the EL will be the only time we see him this season.
I wouldn't be surprised if he leaves to be honest. i'm not sure there is long left on his contract and i don't see him getting enough time to satisfy him. It would be a real shame imo i hope he remains patient.
But ole wanted mata to stay jessie is getting the spot and periera is next in line. So there is 3 ahead of him. Chong is probably ahead of him out wide but i'd say that's his best hope in the short term.


2.) 24 Aug 2019 14:08:24
You might have to wait till the 86minute to see a sub.


3.) 24 Aug 2019 14:17:44
I'm sure Ole has sat him down and said look your'll get your chance your just 18. The contract situation is a little concerning but I think he'll sign up.


4.) 24 Aug 2019 14:24:41
Hope so mort it was not easy getting him to sign the last one. Lots of interest.


5.) 24 Aug 2019 14:29:15
He will play once we have midweek games. He will score. he will then force his way past lingard and stay there.


6.) 24 Aug 2019 14:36:49
I love that optimism. He has all the tech ability.


7.) 24 Aug 2019 14:41:22
I am not seeing much chance given to the vaunted youth like Chong, Gomes, Garner, and even Greenwood, I thought this was the new path, the United DNA? If you can’t give a start for one against Palace at home then you have to question why? Is it going with experience to get the necessary results due to pressure perhaps?


8.) 24 Aug 2019 14:52:23
No redman he is picking the best team available to him in the 3rd game of the season.


9.) 24 Aug 2019 14:52:54
AWB? Rasford? James? McTominay? Martial? Yeah, no faith in young players. Is that the sound of a barrel being scraped?


10.) 24 Aug 2019 16:32:06
Be difficult when he isn’t on the bench.


 

 

24 Aug 2019 13:18:54
Lot of love for them on here during the summer but chelsea have a few issues, lamps has a big job on his hands.

jred

1.) 24 Aug 2019 13:36:42
Big time.


2.) 24 Aug 2019 13:43:35
Agreed jred. Always said it was a risky appointment. Gone by Christmas if they don't pick up. Not exactly a club known for patience.


3.) 24 Aug 2019 14:05:11
That pukki is sick in front of goal.


4.) 24 Aug 2019 14:09:57
Not bad for a man brought up on skis😁.


5.) 24 Aug 2019 14:18:06
Chelsea were always going to struggle this year and i think our main competition for 4th spot is Arsenal.


6.) 24 Aug 2019 17:00:23
Chelsea won today, so what's the problem?


7.) 24 Aug 2019 17:08:08
We should be worrying about us. Things are not so nice this side either.
OGS may not be here in December. He's not up for this job. Simple.


8.) 24 Aug 2019 17:26:21
Both teams are in trouble. Inexperienced managers young squads no proven goal scorer in either team it wouldn't shock me if neither team made the top 4 come May.


9.) 24 Aug 2019 19:32:23
Who gives a toss about Chelsea, we’ve got our own problems.


 

 

11 Aug 2019 19:37:29
Just noticed the match post page, when did that start.

jred

1.) 11 Aug 2019 19:53:17
It was there all last year jred.


2.) 11 Aug 2019 19:59:16
Its been there for quite some time.


3.) 11 Aug 2019 20:09:49
Only just noticed it.


4.) 11 Aug 2019 21:00:59
Doh! 😁.


5.) 12 Aug 2019 12:07:48
Been there for around a year. 😂😂.


 

 

09 Aug 2019 12:13:31
Towards the end of last season, we didn't score a lot of goals did we? We have players that we think will make an impact and Mason's pathway would have been a lot more difficult if we had another forward.

“For me, I believe that Mason is going to be playing and involved a lot - and when he is he will score goals. ”ole
It's great we are going to give youth a chance imo .
A lot of people say give youth a chance, what they really mean is spends millions on big name players.

jred

1.) 09 Aug 2019 12:37:15
Jred

I think Greenwood has a real talent, however do you not think he is now under immense pressure to score goals due to the dearth of other goal scorers. At his age it can be detrimental, even the great Cristiano didn’t have that level of pressure. I want youth given a chance but how will he feel under the weight of expectations, he might flourish but it might destroy him.


2.) 09 Aug 2019 12:42:01
Hes 17, he is a kid and because we haven't got many options now, I can see a lot of pressure being put on those shoulders. It's all well and good when he scores a few goals but it's when things aren't going his way, fans forget his age and criticise his performances (see rashford)

I think he is a quality young player and I'll be delighted to see him get a few games but I am worried for him as i think it's a bit unfair to expect too much too soon.

Ole could do well by managing expectation a bit better with his words.


3.) 09 Aug 2019 12:43:03
I think it would be pretty bold to start Greenwood on Sunday but I think Ole might do it. Martial central, Rashford on the left, Lingard as the 10 and Greenwood on the right.

Signings are exciting, there is no doubt about that but seeing a young player come through is in my opinion one of the best things for fans of any club.


4.) 09 Aug 2019 12:51:16
Great to hear.
The young lads will give everything on the pitch.


5.) 09 Aug 2019 12:52:38
You got to give it to him. He knows what to say to the press. You don't get any negative feeling or have to listen to constant moaning on things. Good guy Ole. Listening to him sets the positive mood to look for the Chelsea game. :)


6.) 09 Aug 2019 12:56:58
I can see Greenwood starting on Sunday on the right of a front 3.

Martial, Rashford, Greenwood with Lingard or Pogba behind, depending on who plays in midfield.

So much pace and movement. If we get off to a good start we might even see Martial get into it.

{Ed025's Note - martial has to step up to the plate this season wazza, he is a very talented footballer but needs to show more this term or you have to get rid mate..


7.) 09 Aug 2019 13:19:39
Redman
He is under less pressure than rooney, giggs and owen at that age, if he has what it takes he will make it if not he won't .
Maybe we shouldn't give him a chance and just do what city done with sancho and sell him?


8.) 09 Aug 2019 13:24:47
jred its one thing giving youth a chance and another to basically expect them to replace a guy who at his worst still gets you 10-12 PL goals a season.


9.) 09 Aug 2019 13:42:21
Jred, you misunderstood most of the posts re buying players. I said yesterday and today that I'm happy to see Greenwood given a chance. I think the front three will score if we had the supply.
What we don't have, is a midfield to supply them, and I'm afraid we have to spend millions to buy midfielders, there is no alternative.


10.) 09 Aug 2019 13:51:00
I done a long ish post that seems to of gone missing maybe it will turn up .
Csm
He wasnt first choice under ole, rash is and martial looks to be back up so to replace lukaku, right or wrong your replacing a third choice striker .
I like lukaku but he won't score goals if he isn't in the managers plans, 3 league goals since ole came in in December.
I would rather have someone like mason getting minutes of the bench than someone like mandukic.
If you want to give youth a chance give them s chance, if not sign big names to sit on the bench in front of them.


11.) 09 Aug 2019 14:10:40
Fair enough jred I can agree with that. Midfield will be the problem though.


12.) 09 Aug 2019 14:22:08
The only way would would have needed another forward would be if both lukaku and sanchez left. We are well stocked. With rash martial and greenwood all of whom can play wide too.
None of them are proven consitent goal scorers in fact none of them have started 50 games as a striker so it is a risk but if ole is backing them i have to accept that and hope he is right and the risk pays off.


13.) 09 Aug 2019 14:25:55
well what i've got from Ole's press conference is that Greenwood is going to start on sunday and i'm very happy about it, Martial, Rashford and Greenwood that's a very pacey attack, surely pogba and Mctommy start as the 2 midfielders but who is going to be the other is my question will he go for Lingard, mata or pereira? defense well we all know our back 4 now, Shaw, Maguire, Lindelof and Young. haha joking Wan Bissaka.


14.) 09 Aug 2019 14:35:28
jred rash and martial make 2 of the front 3, the problem isn't that we didn't buy a striker to replace lukaku it is that we didn't buy anyone to replace lukaku, so who is the third player who gets the goals. The 500k man has scored 3 PL goals in his 2 years at united, lingard's crossed the 5 goal mark in the league once in his career, mata's is done at the top level for most part, expecting greenwood to come up with the goods is just asking too much. And that's without including the fact that if anything happens to pogba, rashford and martial are going to have big problems as we have no creativity outside of him.

This whole let's give talented kids a chance rather than buying good players for big money all sounds great on paper but people forget that kids are not consistent, they blow hot and cold. A team cannot ebb and flow in terms of performances, it has to be consistently good or manager loses the job.

Everyone remembers class of 92, they just forget that gary neville had schmeichel, bruce, pallister and irwin around him to cover for him if he made mistakes, giggs and beckham had cole and cantona helping them out. Expecting kids to perform miracles never ends well.


15.) 09 Aug 2019 14:52:52
With the rise of social media, most kids these days are under a lot more pressure than the youth of the past.

I don't think Redman was advocating for some 'big name' signing. Just that the kid will be under an incredible amount of pressure and with that, poor performances might come, resulting in so called 'fans' of the club to direct criticism at him.

Sancho is a completely different scenario, unfair comparison IMO.


16.) 09 Aug 2019 15:01:51
CSM
exactly pal, some people don't want to give the kids a chance .
You say about the 500,000 a week man then say we should buy good players for big money .
Maybe buying good players for big money sounds good on paper

If you want to give "kids" and let's be honest we are talking about 1 kid here mason you need to give him some minutes not buy a big name to sit on the bench .
People say give the kids a chance but when it comes down to it actually want big name signings . Even tho there is no guarantee with them either .
People post like every signing is risk free and will 100% work out.

Like I said in my OP.
It's great we are going to give youth a chance imo .  
A lot of people say give youth a chance, what they really mean is spends millions on big name players

Maybe it won't work out but maybe if we sign someone that won't either?


17.) 09 Aug 2019 15:16:21
Why was sancho different, young lad bags of potential, wasnt going to get a chance at city. So left and with in 6 months was a 100 mil player .

Let's imagine 12 months ago we have a young lad like sancho sat on the bench . Should we play him.
Odoi at chelsea has expectation on him,
Yer so called fans might direct criticism at them, what's new look at the stick martial rash shaw have got . That's football he will need to be able to handle that.
But if you want to give youth a chance then give them a chance .


18.) 09 Aug 2019 15:54:11
Sancho is London born and raised. Moved to city when he was 14/ 15, was there a couple of years.

I believe he was selected to go on a pre season tour at 17 and decided to opt out of that and instead choose to go to Dortmund. Man City I believe try quite hard to convince him to stay assuring him of playing time. Big decision that has paid off.

On the other hand you have Mason Greenwood, joined the club at 6 and has steadily risen through the club. He has been given ample chances right up until now as he was brought on the pre season tour. Manchester United boy through and through. Different scenarios, hence the reason why I feel it's unfair. You just tried to simplify it by using their age and game time.

Again, I think everybody would be very happy to see Mason get chances. There is just the fear that unfair expectation will be put upon his shoulders. United, through their amateur tactics in the transfer market have created this situation.

Terrible that some of us are actually concerned about him lol.


19.) 09 Aug 2019 16:03:59
Jred i agree with that.
If samchez and lukaku had left i'd have been happy to take in an older head ( the likes of vardy or mandzukic) for a season or 2 to provide extra cover. But i'm very comfortable that greenwood can cover Lukaku.
Striker options are rash martial sanchez and greenwood.
Left james rash martial sanchez chong gomes
Right james rash jessie greenwood chong gomes
10 mata jessie sanchez gomes
Largely unproven some need time as its their first season
A couple need to rekindle prior form like sanchez and jessie
A couple need to deliver in their 3rd and 4th season. Rash and martial are now 1st picks they need to justify that. They have paid their dues. Its their time now. They need to grasp this wonderful opportunity they need to improve and keep improving.


20.) 09 Aug 2019 16:26:42
Lukaku did leave Ken.


21.) 09 Aug 2019 16:39:32
Ken exactly Greenwood could very well be 4th choice striker, personally I would like to see him get minutes of the bench, certainly ahead of some fancy name like mandukic on a last pay day .
The lad is still a kid there shouldn't be any expectation on him . All though you will always get a few complaining and expecting him to be a world beater straight away .


22.) 09 Aug 2019 16:37:03
There is a big difference between giving youth a chance - i. e. gradually integrating them into the first team where they can provided backup to and learn from a core of experienced players - and expecting a 17 year old with almost no experience at the top level to replace the club’s highest scoring attacker over the last two seasons.

The plan was to replace Lukaku when he was sold, but we prioritised getting an extra few million over having enough time to ensure the squad didn’t suffer.


23.) 09 Aug 2019 16:39:29
Its a lot to put on a 17 year old. Its why I'd have taken mandzukic. Someone who would be an option of the bench and an experienced plan b but not someone who's going to be around long enough to block off chances.


24.) 09 Aug 2019 17:58:00
I am not saying he is the same quality at the same age or will he reach the same level, but how old was Rooney on his Everton debut? He was good enough.


25.) 09 Aug 2019 18:26:18
If he is good enough he is old enough .
I don't thinking one is putting pressure on him the lad is only 17 and just starting out the pressure to score goals is now on rash martial linders pogba etc and it's time them boys stood up .

I like lukaku, I think he will score goals where ever he goes but it isobvious that he was no longer first choice under ole .
Martial and rash would of been ahead of him in the pecking order, so we haven't sold our first choice striker we have sold our 3rd choice .
So I'm not sure how many minutes lukaku would of got but I would rather them minutes went to someone like Mason than someone like mandukic.
Mason will be behind a number of players this season I would of thought and will get limited minutes even less if we buy another striker to sit on the bench in front of him.
And that's the thing I don't think we would of bought a striker to walk into the first 11, it would of been to sit on the bench .
I would rather we give youth a chance than buy big name has been to sit on the bench . If you want to give youth a chance you need to give them a path to the first team not block it .
I don't know if he is ready for it but if ole and the coaching staff think he is then I think they should give him the opportunity.
Reading the page obviously most are actually against given youth a chance .
They seem to say " give youth a chance " until it actually gets to the point of given youth a chance .


26.) 09 Aug 2019 18:31:37
Angle they are both young players o e had his route to the first team blocked, 6 month later he was a 100 mil pound player.
Regardless of the player tho the fact remains, if you want to give youth a chance give them a chance, when is the right time?
People say give youth a chance then complain when we don't sign star names to sit on the bench.

Ole and co are probably in a good position to judge . Was gomes not also looking for a move away due to first team chances?


27.) 09 Aug 2019 18:32:12
Mort he would of blocked his chances this season, and then people would want him replaced next season .
At some point if your going to give youth a chance you actually have to give them a chance .
I'm amazed how many people say give youth a chance, until it happens .
Danny
I don't think any one except yourself is expecting greenwood to replace lukaku, he will imo like you say be integrated into the team .
Rashford replaced lukaku as our main striker when ole took over . I like lukaku but not part of the managers plan, he scored 3 league since ole took over in december .


28.) 09 Aug 2019 19:22:51
I know ole but sanchez didn't so we don't need cover.


 

 

02 Aug 2019 16:06:39
I'm really pleased with Maguire I think he is a good player and will be a good fit at united .
Same goes for wan bissaka, looks a proper player to me.
James the jury is out but it's an interesting signing.
I think we will add one more dybala, erikson?

That would give us 3 first team players added to what we have, get the team playing to its potential could be an excellent season .
And a great bit of transfer business.

jred

1.) 02 Aug 2019 16:29:56
I really hope you are right about Maguire. I wish he becomes world class for us.


2.) 02 Aug 2019 16:20:06
Jred i think james will be very much a first teamer and i'd bet he makes 30 plus appearances this season. I would not dismiss him at all from the 1st team picture. He does add a very different dimension when he plays i can see him having a very important role to play
All 3 signings get a big thumbs up from me.


3.) 02 Aug 2019 16:38:52
Ken
I haven't dismissed him but he has played a few minutes of friendly footy and never played in a EPL game, still early days for him .
Maguire and co will walk in to our first 11, james imo may be on the fringes, few games starting few on the bench.


4.) 02 Aug 2019 17:47:15
My bad i thought you were dismissing him.
Depending on who else signs i think he will provide more as an impact player. Its a big step up but even at the highest level his sort of pace exposes the best.


5.) 02 Aug 2019 17:48:12
James will make appearances but they will most likely be from the bench. Not a bad profile of player to bring off the bench if we are leading and there are open spaces to exploit.

Needs to work on his ball retention and final ball.


6.) 02 Aug 2019 18:48:03
Cant beat pace in the modern game, he is an interesting signing.


 

 

 

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15 Aug 2019 13:18:44
Have madrid bought well?
I 100% like the direction we have taken this summer .
Keep reading pogba will sulk because he didn't get his move, but you have to wonder what move? Madrid seem to have put money on the table for hazard and neymar.
Juve put dybala on the table for lukaku .

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15 Aug 2019 08:50:21
It was actually reported a few weeks back that Perez was looking at jose and pogba woukdnt be part of the long term plan .
Things change in football.

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13 Aug 2019 16:39:36
Dont put the ball in the net you don't score nothing to do with luck.

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11 Aug 2019 18:34:28
Manager looks a breath of fresh air,

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11 Aug 2019 12:50:40
Who said give him more time? But shouting for him to be sacked already seems a bit harsh.

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25 Aug 2019 21:59:53
What price are they for relegation.

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24 Aug 2019 20:11:11
First half was poor, lindelof got bullied a bit which is a trait from his first season .
Cahill should of saw red for me.
Second half was better, but palace done a good job of breaking it up, never seen so many fouls.

I thought it was a pen against martial, right decision for the one on rash .
Rashford missing the pen, dear me after every thing that has been said this week I'm sure it will be glossed over .
Poor gk by DDG for the goal which is a concern after his form last season .
Just wait for the reaction to a defeat on here tho, beating chelsea in a match will count for nothing. Suddenly this one game will 100% be the be all and end all.

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24 Aug 2019 13:16:27
I just don't see it as an issue, like I say scored 7 from 10 prior so no issue with him taking it.
It was also pogba who won it with a great bit of play.

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But the point is other people do.

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24 Aug 2019 13:12:15
Ken like bolger is passionate about things .
I personally don't think it is a big issue, and my opinion is as relevant as anyone else .
Pogba is/ was our designated penalty taker last season .
Took 10 scored 7 I'm not really sure why it's a big deal he look one this season.
Rash has scored 2 . Each to there own tho.

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