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16 Jan 2018 12:51:26
BBC reporting that neither us or arsenal will agree to the sanchez transfer unless miki goes the other way.
No idea how much truth is in this, especially given how Ed02's previously stated that transfers involving money and an additional player are generally unlikely.
Imo if that's what's needes to get sanchez in I'd be more than happy, but it doesn't fill me with confidence for this transfer to happen.
1.) 16 Jan 2018 13:11:00
I can’t see it. I think miki will turn them down and it will go tits up.
2.) 16 Jan 2018 13:27:12
That's what in thinking. But then again, he must know now that he's not really wanted, so a move is going to be needed to reignite his career.
3.) 16 Jan 2018 13:28:18
Looks like it's other agents trying to scupper the Sanchez deal. If he comes brilliant . But let's not spend all January chasing a lost cause.
4.) 16 Jan 2018 17:15:59
It's being reported now it would be a straight player swap.
5.) 16 Jan 2018 17:51:52
Mhiki’s agent now stepping into the deal.
Enough said.
6.) 18 Jan 2018 13:22:23
Wenger saying deal is likely.
11 Jan 2018 12:53:59
Apparently we have put in a bid for Sanchez.
Made my day hearing that.
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30 Sep 2024 08:35:13
Ole as interim, anyone?
1.) 30 Sep 2024 08:49:37
I'm not sure how serious your being but i can't believe how anyone would want him back? surely if we go down the interim route we already have rvn in place.
2.) 30 Sep 2024 08:54:59
Why select the only other idiot equally as bad as the idiot we have now.
3.) 30 Sep 2024 08:58:54
That would be an ed Woodward move. thank god he’s gone and hopefully no one currently in situ is that stupid.
4.) 30 Sep 2024 08:59:04
Is the inept manager still there?
No to Ole, we are enough of a laughingstock as it is.
5.) 30 Sep 2024 09:35:06
C’mon Tumble. Bad manager he may have been and we know you hated him but at least show a little regard for what he did for the club as a player.
You’re better than that!
6.) 30 Sep 2024 09:37:48
Even if there was any merit in bringing Ole back, I do not believe the board would do it. It would be a backward step.
If EtH does get sacked, then they need to consider whether either RvN or Rene Hake can step in or whether they are part of the problem currently. If not then they need to consider if there is a permanent solution available and does that fit the model that the hierachy are trying to set. Tuchel for example would likely not want a temporary post.
Either way, it feels like it is a matter of time before the plug is pulled!
7.) 30 Sep 2024 09:44:45
Okey was poor, the players threw him under the bus and would do it all over again.
If / when EtH gets sacked, we need to get it right.
8.) 30 Sep 2024 10:25:32
Keefy I think the suggestion was to bring him back as manager not as a player. I've no respect for him as a manager. He is an idiot manager which bears not reflection on his time here as a playing squad member where he did a good job as a squad playing member. He is an idiot manager as proven here and at Cardiff.
9.) 30 Sep 2024 11:46:05
Fair enough.
25 Aug 2024 10:36:28
I keep seeing words to the effect of "we were never expected to neat Brighton".
Why not?
They finished 11th last season and lost their manager. They had a 38 year old midfielder.
Anything but their complete destruction is a complete and utter failure of a man utd team.
1.) 25 Aug 2024 11:01:56
I said was anyone really surprised at losing to Brighton. Our selection, team tactics, persistence with Rashford saw us struggle to score goals last season and we can see that continuing this season. We just don’t score enough goals, needed a CF, with experience and don’t have one, put the player in Garnacho who causes opposition the most problems on the bench, don’t even play a striker. So why would we be surprised at losing?
We became good at losing last season, brought in RVN and then don’t play a striker. The false 9 tactics worked against City in the cup final, but playing like that against Brighton? One goal per game a continuation of last season, it needs to change.
2.) 25 Aug 2024 11:14:29
Because they have comfortably beaten us 4 out of the last 5 prem meetings (5 out of the last 6 as of yesterday)
They got a talented manager, splashed the cash they raised from their solid transfer business on more decent players and had a bright pre season and a solid start to the prem season playing attacking
exciting football
We on the other hand stuck with the manager who gave us our worst ever prem season. We spent 150m on 4 players of which only 1 can get in our starting 11. Preferring maguire to de ligt and we stumbled out of the blocks at fulham and defeats at brighton and liverpool are expected.
ive not seen ugarte play but he will have to be one hell of a player to improve our performances. if we even get him. Less than a week till the window shuts and we still need to offload dead wood to buy anyone else.
3.) 25 Aug 2024 11:33:30
Brighton didn't play particularly well, we were just awful yet again.
4.) 25 Aug 2024 11:47:49
Utd weren't awful, they were wasteful. Had Amad out his chance away and Zirkzee not made contact with the ball, everyone would have been happy and excited.
The major issue is individual mistakes and poor decision making.
Let's be honest we were very unlucky to lose yesterday.
5.) 25 Aug 2024 12:07:33
We were not awful. Total hyperbole yet again.
We played pretty well and have been unlucky not to have scored more goals in the first two games.
We’ve played some decent stuff too. A little undercooked from pre-season admittedly, but clearly playing better and more organised than last season.
Three disallowed goals and a missed open goal. The result is all that matters, but I swear some fans only watch MOTD and then come on here moaning without seeing the full game.
We were very unlucky not to have 3 points yesterday, which is not what could be said in recent visits to Brighton.
6.) 25 Aug 2024 12:58:22
We had chances that we didn't take and were punished by a side who scored 2 of their 3 chances in the game. We also had opportunities to create chances which we wasted by poor execution or decision making from our attacking players.
On a positive note we actually looked pretty comfortable for the majority of the game and that was a rarity last season. We also put together a few good passages of play. Was it phenomenal, no, but there were improvements compared to most of the games last season.
The negatives come from the fact the manager made a couple of strange subs and ultimately stuck with a few players who if they continue to play will cost us goals due to daft mistakes or misjudgements. I'm still not sure why we seem to insist on playing as slowly as we do at times but hopefully that develops as the season progresses.
7.) 25 Aug 2024 13:01:27
We have the most missed chances in the league after 2 games according to stats from top 6 clubs. We are buying younger players and wages within a bracket as a strategy and that rules out many players that may be available but don't fit the age or wage profile and there will be some growing pains.
Listened to Orstein the other day talking about its not transfer fees that are killing clubs its the wage structure of some clubs.
This is a typical reaction by some people who throw their toys out based on weekly results and then also want to talk about a reset and rebuild, culture blah blah blah, which is more lip service. They have zero patients and want it all immediately.
We gave away two terrible goals and that's player mistakes and not related to strategy or team set up.
Very young team, one striker crooked, the other new team, league and not even maybe match fit. Marquee signing broken foot and Deligt also getting eased in. if it does not meet your timelines of throwing them all in together tough, get used to it, many teams doing the same way.
We have some positions that needs fixing and hopefully will deal with that before the window closes. We will get a lot better as the season goes on.
8.) 25 Aug 2024 13:24:01
I don't see it so much as unlucky as we aren't street wise, we don't close out games.
Thought we saw good and bad from Amad, good finished missed one and a couple of times he should have put Rashy in but didn't.
I thought assessing Rashy was interesting, there were quite a few times he had beaten the trap only for the man on the ball not to even look never mind see him and so didn't even play what on at least three occasions an easy ball which would have left him running at the keeper.
The frustrating thing here though is as we are playing with a false nine, Rashy with his pace and power is doing exactly what his manager is designing, to look to get in behind the defence, had those balls been played not only would the result very possibly have been different, but so would Brightons tactics and going forward others too, you would fubd teams being very reluctant to play so high knowing that we were always looking to release Marcus, many people including me have mixed feelings about him but he can be devastating running beyond defenders and our tactics were supposed to take advantage of that and create those moments and we did, just players didn't see it.
Yes there was a few times Rashy was guilty of being offside when he should have been a bit cuter but assuming he will understand when to go and others understand to look for that run sooner it changes a lot of how you play us.
The moment teams start to fear this ball it starts to free up space in the middle, it makes playing with a false 9 even more dangerous.
9.) 25 Aug 2024 13:24:18
Not related to team set-up? Quite clearly on both goals at least 2 or 3 players had no clue where to be.
10.) 25 Aug 2024 13:39:55
The manager picks the team Ahmad, the buck stops with him. I could understand if we had injuries to cb but we don’t. Barring left back we can pick a first back 5 yet we don’t again.
Throwing toys out of the pram with the manager weekly was an occurrence last season, but many still voted for him to stay based on a flukey win against a City team still asleep from their midweek piss up.
There is a handful, me included which expect these results based on the manager, and the favourites he picks, once that's eradicated then things will improve, until then get used to the same as last season.
Brighton rightfully so went into the game as favourites, why shouldn’t they? We proved the odds correct by losing. We should earn the right to go into games as favourites. I cannot understand what changed over the summer to think we should be challenging more than 6th again.
11.) 25 Aug 2024 14:14:30
Ahmad
You say we gave away two terrible goals and that's player mistakes and not related to strategy or team set up. Surely the defence is coached in the team set up?
Then what about scoring goals? Two rookie strikers, one injured and Rashford treated as a favourite is a real issue.
12.) 25 Aug 2024 14:29:57
Gnev
Personally had no issues with set up and team selection. When you don't take your chances and turn a simple pass into pass and miss opportunities to score, you are asking for trouble. We were the better team both games but making hard work. First half i thought Brighton offered nothing and we had control, Amad misses a golden chance and a simple pass to rash and its slim margins at this level.
On another day we are in a comfortable place. Its a game of moments, the ball glance off zirksee on the line whilst its going in and we get a call to nullify going ahead. The idea we were rubbish or poor is just not true or reflective of the game. We are very clumsy/ rusty in the final third I accept that.
13.) 25 Aug 2024 16:02:13
Redman
I don't buy into fav thing with eth. he has shown he has no issues dropping players. There seems to be a section of the fans that when we get a bad result, full attention is on eth and rash and one has to be at fault. its a team game. The next argument is the players are coached badly, we have mistakes in our back 4 and have had it for Yonkers.
Its hard to explain why 4 guys went to the ball and left 3 guys unmarked at the far corner, even with eth saying before the game he told them not to let that winger come on to his right foot and show him the outside.
14.) 25 Aug 2024 18:13:22
Ahmad you are right. The favourite thing was quickly disproved but it’s still a stick for people to use.
Worse thing about losing on a weekend is it’s like Groundhog Day on here for a few days afterwards.
Garnacho hasn’t had a pre-season, he’s being eased back in.
Likewise people are questioning the formation and defensive changes.
De Ligt and Zirkzee didn’t kick a ball in pre season. They need easing in.
It’s all there to see if people can be bothered to look.
15.) 25 Aug 2024 18:35:40
Ahmad. I think the first half hour we had more of the ball. I commented on live chat i thought they were there for the taking today. So i do agree to a certain extent. However once their goal went in the game changed.
I don’t get the sentiment on a different day we could have had a comfortable win, i haven’t felt that way about a Utd side in a long long time. This season i am not holding my breath will be any different.
16.) 25 Aug 2024 19:50:55
I'm just resigned to another poor season. nothing has or will change. The players are just brain dead, as bad as passing it forwards than defending. Just plain thick. easy passes not made, clearing lines not done. just basics are not done. that's just plain rank bad coaching. yesterday was same old rubbish.
25 Apr 2024 00:09:40
Ethan Wheatley: "Bruno pulled me to the side and told me I’ve got nine minutes to try get you a goal. "
You can keep your hate. This man's my captain. He cares more, and shows passion, and has a greater determination to win than any player we've had in a long, long time. And he's banging in goals and staking up assists.
1.) 25 Apr 2024 06:28:22
He does have leadership qualities, people would be blind to deny that.
Unfortunately the play acting and petulance overshadow how good he is. Although he’s back in form recently, and nobody on here can take his numbers away from him.
For me he’s our best player, somebody who would thrive under Pep, and we should be looking to keep him.
2.) 25 Apr 2024 08:25:10
The argument is that in a better-performing team those negative traits are less prevalent so his antics are really a by-product of the current state of affairs. Last season we called them passionate and defending the club, this season they're adding fuel to the fire.
3.) 25 Apr 2024 08:32:36
Leaders don’t lead when lying screaming on the floor whilst the opposition storm forward. Lead from the front is an old saying yet where has he been? Why did Hojland have to stand on his own after scoring a high pressure pen last week, where was the leader then?
Bruno runs a lot, but doesn’t appear to be in any structure, does what he wants, freedom with responsibility. Sets an example for energy but not one to go into a battle with, not a leader for me,
4.) 25 Apr 2024 08:51:38
Doesn't appear to be in any structure? Does what he wants. Whose fault is that I wonder?
5.) 25 Apr 2024 09:08:39
Yes Keefy but I wasn’t starting that argument on this thread!
Hope you enjoyed being there live, I did. Will post on that
Bruno gets plaudits but is not disciplined, runs an awful lot mind you. Warming up his shooting was good, scoring with similar shots to what he did in the match.
6.) 25 Apr 2024 09:48:38
Problem is Redman, and I agree with you as I posted about it, had he run up and celebrated with Hojlund after the Penalty, fans would be saying it's embarrassing and he needed to show class towards Coventry like Maguire, he didn't and now people (You ;) ) are questioning his leadership. Now he could have achieved both but then you could argue why didn't Maguire go to Hojlund.
Fernandes is a target for the fan base because of his antics but he's the one player who is always available, the one player who will stand in front of the camera after a game, he was on 1 leg playing CB v Liverpool which no one mentions. The lads stats are, outstanding in what people are saying is an unstructured team, more G/ A this season than Odergaard and De Bruyne will lesser players around him. I'd be fairly confident fans would take Guimaraes, Saka, Maddison, Jota, Salah in this team yet they are all guilty of these traits Fernandes shows.
Traits that we don't like is common in the game, a reason enjoying football becomes harder and harder each season along with VAR but I think we need to, not look past it but praise what he does as much as we criticise what he does. I have a list as long as my arm on players I personally want out of the club this summer and Fernandes is not on it or would be right at the bottom of the list if he was.
7.) 25 Apr 2024 11:09:27
Ports spot on. Yes his moaning and play acting at times is unnecessary but he clearly cares and tries every game. If all other players in the team had half his work ethic Utd would be playing much better and not losing so much. Also as pointed out as there is no clear playing structure he often feels compelled to run all over the pitch to cover for where other players should be.
8.) 25 Apr 2024 11:32:03
Can't be critical of him last night or indeed for effort practically every week.
9.) 25 Apr 2024 12:11:14
Agree, can’t criticise his effort and at the game you can see his running even more but it needs to be channeled, he needs coaching to be in the places where he can do most damage and not lose structural integrity of our set up. Looks like as Captain he is trying to be seen to do the most, his running stats must be ahead of everyone.
I just don’t understand why we blabbed £60m on Mount who plays in the same position and is injured a lot.
10.) 25 Apr 2024 12:32:28
Yeah Redman, if we'd spent that £60m on either a mediocre left back and mediocre center back, or a decent DM, I think we'd have a good chance at having made CL places this season.
11.) 25 Apr 2024 13:14:06
Yes Redman. Enjoyed being there. Stretford end seats. Going back for Burnley game.
12.) 25 Apr 2024 17:31:09
Sorry to hear about your mum, Keefy.
13.) 25 Apr 2024 18:13:42
Kids got more than 9 minutes to get a goal, he has his whole future to score goals. Just Bruno being a egotistical tit as usual.
14.) 25 Apr 2024 21:03:36
What a ridiculous comment Nev. It won't be long until Mainoo starts to get taken down like everyone at our club does on this site.
15.) 25 Apr 2024 22:02:38
So apparently, Bruno broke his hand playing against Coventry, but still insisted on playing yesterday. You've got to admit that's at least a little captain like.
16.) 25 Apr 2024 22:27:46
No doubt he loves UTD, he's excellent with the younger players, a real mentor. Its a shame he has the love that say Keane or any of the old guard but the grit and guile of a 4 year old whos ball has been taken.
17.) 26 Apr 2024 08:06:15
Thanks Noucamp!
18 Aug 2022 12:11:55
Midfield of Casemiro, FDJ and Bruno would be epic.
I don't buy that our squad is as bad as people think, I belive the issue is that the players don't complement each others skill sets.
Those 2 mfs would lift us by miles and be the difference between competing for top 4 or mid table obscurity. I know we could do with a rb, cb, widen forward and striker, but I think those two alone would be game changers.
That said, one is a pipe dream and the other at the end of his career, but if we could get both I'd take them in a heartbeat.
1.) 18 Aug 2022 12:31:14
And who is going to score the goals? Just a small matter of putting the ball in the back of the net.
Last 4 matches including the last 2 preseason matches, we've scored 2 goals and one was an own goal.
If you believe we can compete or be near top four with our defence and attack, then I think you're going to be disappointed. There's also the matter of DDG, but that's another story!
2.) 18 Aug 2022 12:36:13
I think the casemero links are as a replacement for de jong and he will most likely play along Fred if we get him
Both start for Brazil so have that link there.
3.) 18 Aug 2022 13:10:35
Agree bolger, but a man can dream.
AAA, I agree to some extent, ut I think the manager needs to work out a way to play with the players he has.
This team, even with those players, won't be able to play as a well oiled pressing machine, and we won't be able to have quite so high a back line, but if we keep the disgruntled goat, we have enough up front to get by, and our defence isn't that bad, it just can't play the high line and our keeper most definitely can't sweep. But ETH needs to cut his cloth accordingly and make this team work.
4.) 18 Aug 2022 13:15:49
RedD, I love the enthusiasm but we will still have the mentally weak core group of players who’ve downed tools and crumbled under pressure. Varane and Ronaldo have been added to the squad and we’re still crap. Ten Hag needs 3 windows to get this squad sorted. Clearing out the rubbish is the most important part of this rebuild.
While we’ve got the likes of Shaw, Maguire and Rashford, we won’t be competing for CL spots in my opinion.
5.) 18 Aug 2022 13:37:10
I completely disagree 2toms.
Shaw was being touted as the best left back in England at one point. Rashford was ripping it up for a while, slab head isn't a bad central defender. Those guys are shot of confidence and being asked to play roles in a system that they aren't good enough for, they can still be good players, just not doing what's asked of them.
We can't just buy 11 new players, so with a few additions the manager needs to find a way to make it work. It will not necessarily be the system he ideally wants, but some kind of hybrid system that these players can work with. That's his job, that's what he's paid for!
Then over the years he can move on more players and bring in those that allow him to transform the team into exactly what he wants.
6.) 18 Aug 2022 14:09:37
Maguire’s awful. Touting Shaw as Englands best left back means nothing when he puts in poor performances for us. Rashford ambles around the pitch completely disinterested most games. They have had countless opportunities to prove their doubters wrong. How can you say they are being asked to play in a system that doesn’t suit them? Maguire is being asked to defend and he’s been crap at it. Rashford to create and score goals, he struggles to do that.
They are being asked to represent Manchester United, and they struggle to do that. Lack of confidence or not, they have failed to make the grade and need to be replaced with better players. Obviously not in one window, but over 2-3 windows.
7.) 18 Aug 2022 14:33:04
RedD
If we don’t score goals, we won’t win games and that win see us bottom half flirting with danger. We need a striker.
8.) 18 Aug 2022 17:46:47
Striker is the most important Incoming. We simply don't score enough goals. 50 odd goals last year and 18 came from Ronaldo. That's relegation standard.
9.) 18 Aug 2022 20:49:12
AAA far better year before without Ronaldo . Far better this pre season without Ronaldo.
It’s obvious, get rid and watch others relax and enjoy their football.
10.) 18 Aug 2022 22:31:55
Maguire is awful. Period! If you want a coin tosser, someone to walk around waving his arms or looking totally confused for 90 minutes then he is your man.
If you want a leader who will tear slack players a new a**e and bleed for the club then he may as well sit at home and be just as effective. How is he getting a game? Must have pictures of people in compromising poses.
Get him off the park and get a people leader in the middle of the pitch and that alone will make a difference.
Nobody is accountable in this team other than the manager and that is totally wrong.
Bloody soft c**ks make me spew!
11.) 18 Aug 2022 23:21:23
Who should be captain, DDG, Varane/ Casimrio/ Ronaldo, Eriksen.
19 Apr 2022 19:16:03
Flying to Spain so will be in the air for the entire of the match. Might be a good thing. Scared to check the results once we land.
Just seen that Jones is starting though, fingers crossed we get a 0-1 win with a Jones diving header!
23 May 2021 21:42:58
Danny Ings? What have we become.
30 Apr 2021 13:20:30
Seen that too, and apparently from a reliable source.
Would be great for us if he does stay. Means we can focus on other positions this window and worry about a cf next year if the problem hasn't taken care of itself via greenwood or rashford.
21 Apr 2021 07:56:34
First to leave? We were the leaders! We never left! It fell apart around us.
But I don't suddenly have more respect Chelsea and City, they were happy enough to go along with it, they didn't take the high road here, they just bottled it.
20 Jan 2021 19:16:34
Surprised that romero couldn't be a starter for a Premier league club. I think he's done well for us and clubs could do a lot worse.
07 Oct 2020 20:45:22
I really don't understand the profiteering thing.
I assume it means that the club can't extend the contract by the additional year just so they can sell the player and make a profit.
But if we did extend it and an offer came it, I assume we could still accept it.
Ed02, can you explain the concept in a bit more detail or perhaps point to another source worth reading?
{Ed002's Note - The concept is that you cannot extend to make money but if the player is sold the profit, or a negotiated profit, would go to him.}
28 Oct 2024 13:14:32
Yeah that cup win against city was an awesome day. Not enough to keep him, but certainly a great memory and something I'm grateful for.
But, onto the next one please.
25 Oct 2024 10:43:43
This is genius. Instead of paying him off, just get a new manager and leave ETH on the side, demand daily reports from him, on players, training regimes, footballing systems, etc, then never read them and throw them straight in the bin. But make him do it every day, especially thinga he really doesn't like doing.
He either gets bored enough to leave and take a new job eitheron loan or permanent, or he ruins his career doing nothing all day.
08 Oct 2024 22:18:30
Watching us spank Roma 7-1 at old Trafford. What an introduction!
25 May 2024 10:19:47
He makes some decent points, and backs them up with facts. The injuries have been ridiculous, but we've still been complete rubbish and ripped apart by supposedly lesser teams far to often to just simple blame injuries.
Was reading some generic comments on that article from random Internet strangers and someone said it might simply be him trying to attempt to control the narrative to save what he can of his reputation to help get his next job, which I though was an interesting perspective.
Regardless, dude's gone by tomorrow.
20 May 2024 18:50:17
I know it would never happen, but I'd love us to call jose, tell him it's a one game contract, massive win bonus, chance to get one over an old adversary, show us the bus in all it's glory!