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06 May 2021 08:50:51
So Mata might be off to the Italian capital, think that will be a perfect move for him.


1.) 06 May 2021 09:45:59
I think Serie A is the ideal league for him. If he goes I'll wish him well.

2.) 06 May 2021 11:01:45
He needs to move and we need to reduce our wage bill.

3.) 06 May 2021 17:55:46
He’s been a magnificent servant to our club and I wish all the very best for whatever he chooses to do in his future. A proper honest footballer. Go well Juan.

4.) 07 May 2021 01:11:10
Yes scooby an all round good bloke.
Its a real conundrum some players face he has been a bit part player for 4 years. He has won a lot but I'm sure he could have played a lot more elsewhere but would have to turn his back on millions. We see it often in many clubs. Jones or rojo and jesse are good examples at united. Now jesse has seen that there is joy to be found elsewhere he has done so well he might earn more elsewhere. Its a tough decision to leave united voluntary.
Some players are happy to be great squad players also I suppose Juan is one of them. I'd like to see him have a last hurrah at a club of his choice.

5.) 07 May 2021 07:25:24
If rumours are true he may be going with matic and de gea too.

6.) 07 May 2021 12:24:08
My impression is that DeGea prefers Madrid to Rome for obvious reasons, but knows it will only happen if Oblak moves on.



25 Feb 2021 17:43:26
Good old paper talk, apparently we are selling Henderson and buying Donnarumma.


{Ed077's Note - Donnarumma's contract is up this summer and he hasn't yet signed a new deal at Milan just yet. I fully expect him to sign a new deal unless something goes wrong in a massive way.

Guess who is his agent though?

It's non other than Man Utd's favourite super agent, Mino Raiola himself. Rest you can figure what's coming I would hope.}

1.) 25 Feb 2021 22:07:25
Milan having their best season in about 10 years, but if your Donnarumma you want to be winning trophies, even if he is only 22 would you be thinking I would be better off somewhere else.

2.) 26 Feb 2021 05:48:12
Grimslives so you think he's going to come to us? We already have Henderson who is 23, knows the PL and has experience under his belt. Why would anyone in their sane mind replace him for someone outside of the PL who is talented for sure but not guaranteed to succeed. It's a huge risk.

It's all just paper talk trying to prop up United in the headlines and probably he gets a improved contract in the process.

3.) 26 Feb 2021 08:20:24
LPU, Donnarumma has huge experience for his age and is the better keeper of the two

Henderson is a bigger risk imo. He’s not convinced he can be better than DDG yet, whereas Donnarumma probably has.

4.) 26 Feb 2021 09:47:38
Wazza it's PL experience I am talking about. How is Henderson a bigger risk? He's already shown that he's a much better all round keeper than DeGea.

Donnarumma might have huge experience as you say but the PL is a different thing all together. Watched some youtube highlights and he doesn't look much convincing with his handling and not sure if he commands his box well and is good in the air. He reminds me of DeGea with his shot stopping ability but some times seems to parry the ball into danger areas. He probably isn't ready for the PL and has lots to improve in my opinion.

Anyone seen enough of Donnarumma to suggest he is ready for the PL?

5.) 26 Feb 2021 12:54:12
LPU I don’t agree for a second that DH has shown he’s a better keeper than DDG.

Dave looks past his best but he was considered the best in the world. Henderson has done nothing yet to earn such praise.

{Ed077's Note - I too dont think Dean Henderson is a better GK than DDG just yet. However it's very easy to see that DH is a better footballer than DDG and is more suited suited to the way United play nowadays.}

6.) 26 Feb 2021 14:12:36
I mean except by the looks of it be the difference between Sheffield United getting a top half finish or relegated.

{Ed077's Note - I don't think it's fair to say DH is the sole difference between Sheffield Utd finishing in the top half last season and being rock bottom this. Ramsdale not shot ng their style of play and frankly being an inferior GK is certainly a contributing factor and so is the large number of injuries their defence has suffered. For example O'Conell being out injured for the whole of the season has unsettled their defence quite a bit and they have had to play a near retirement Jagielka fair few amount of times due to various players I defence getting injured. They are so reliant on their system and their first 11 that even 2or 3 players missing can completely make them very weak. And they have been very unlucky in most games too.

But yeah DH would most likely have helped them get a few more points I think}



27 Oct 2020 20:01:42
Not United related but of general imterest to all us football observers, Bartomeu has resigned, is. this the beginning of Messi and Barcelona patching. up their differences and him signing a new contract?


1.) 27 Oct 2020 21:37:18
Nope, they are still imploding.

2.) 28 Oct 2020 09:48:29
Like us really but no one wants to admit it.

3.) 28 Oct 2020 17:25:18
That's a good point exfzz.



10 Aug 2020 16:18:48
Is the Sancho transfer now resolved?


{Ed047's Note - yes he’ll be there on Friday

1.) 10 Aug 2020 16:31:33
Is that confirmed for sure Ed or something you think is likely?

{Ed047's Note - it was tongue in cheek prodigal, who knows if he’s coming or not.

The latest according to Dortmund is no but that could be just trying to get you to pay his way over the top valuation as you seem so desperate again.

2.) 10 Aug 2020 16:45:46
Where Altach Ed?

{Ed047's Note - anyone’s guess mate 🤷‍♂️

3.) 10 Aug 2020 16:48:54
All part of the fun of being a United supporter Ed.

4.) 10 Aug 2020 17:45:58
Could be worse Ed047, could be signing a past it 32yr old winger on huge wages on a 3yr deal deemed not good enough by his current club, coupled with wasting one of the worlds great midfielders by leaving him on the bench to collect his £350k wages, only to replace him with the likes of Xhaka😂😂😂. Topping it off by embarrassingly begging a striker to stay at the club who doesn't actually want to be there because you're THAT bad.

Talking of desperation, didn't you pay 3x over the odds for Lionel Messi? Sorry, i meant Nicholas Pepe🤣🤣🤣🤣.

{Ed047's Note - 🎣 I don’t half love you scholesy! 🤣🤣

5.) 10 Aug 2020 18:55:47
He said that about dembele and he was sold.

{Ed001's Note - yes but Dembele did a midnight flit, literally just vanished over night, fleeing Germany, that precipitated his sale after they found a number of other issues he had left behind. Particularly the state of his apartment, which ended up in a court case for damages.}

6.) 10 Aug 2020 19:28:29
At the end of the day, we know the price. If we match it he comes. My view is, if this is the managers number 1 target then we should get him, but I don’t make the decisions. It will be interesting to see what happens. I don’t think a certain date makes any difference to whether or not the player will be sold before the window closes.

7.) 11 Aug 2020 00:14:53
I expect a deal can still be done if we match their original asking price, but if Dortmund are smart they’ll flat out refuse to negotiate any further and just wait until EW gets desperate.

I feel a little sorry for EW as it’s a tough call as to how to approach this one and he’ll likely end up catching some flack for the way he handles this whatever he ends up doing. Part of me thinks he should have just paid the asking price straight away and got the deal done, but I also appreciate that it’s this kind of behavior in the past that’s lead to us getting bent over a barrel with every deal we make.

Ultimately though, I expect we’ll end up caving somewhere down the line and offering the full amount, but I wouldn’t be too surprised if Dortmund stick to their guns and keep him for another year (although I guess this might depend on whether or not Sancho pushes for a move) .

8.) 11 Aug 2020 05:25:35

We as fans always say back the manager, give him the player he wants if he is the managers first choice and all . But sometimes we should be sensible in our business ideas too. Maybe sometimes the managers first choice isn't the best option all things considered.

And if you need an example as to when it is a success when a managers doesn't get his preferred choice just look at Liverpool and Salah.

Sarah wasnt Klopp's first choice. Actually he was 4th choice I think. But the club saw him as the better overall option and convinced Klopp to sign him. And rest is history.



31 Jan 2020 06:03:23
Reports saying our bid for Josh King has been turned down by Bournemouth.


1.) 31 Jan 2020 06:21:55
The very Josh King that used to play for us?

2.) 31 Jan 2020 08:14:36
Would prefer him then Slimani.

3.) 31 Jan 2020 08:37:07
i don't rate him what so ever. would he offer more than martial?

somtimes martial can be fantastic but he always drifts in and out of games for me.

im unsure on king don't think he would improve us.

4.) 31 Jan 2020 08:49:06
Agree don't want him I like the look of william jose looks half decent big and strong and knows where the net is.

5.) 31 Jan 2020 09:26:37
Martial has been given the No.9 shirt and a massive new deal.

When fit he will be the first choice central striker.

We aren't looking for a world class first choice striker to come in.

We need a rotation option who offers something different, ideally a back to goal striker who can bring others into the game.

Giroud would be the ideal signing, I just can't see Chelsea selling to a rival and if they would I see Spurs ahead of us in the queue due to Giroud preferring to stay in London.

6.) 31 Jan 2020 09:57:59
I think Chelsea will rather sell to us than Tottenham. plus Giroud knows he has a better chance of getting playing time with us over the next 12 months. Given his age he will also want a final pay day which we can offer better than Tottenham.
THe only issue is we are not interested.

7.) 31 Jan 2020 10:02:25
Some of you may have seen The Masked signer on TV (yeah, quality I know! ), and would have seen Teddy Sheringham as the 'tree'.

If we wanted to sign a tree, maybe we could sign him again. Be a cheaper option than Giroud.

8.) 31 Jan 2020 10:10:13

Martial lacks consistency. Also you said when he is fit. He is quite injury prone. He needs to be more aggressive. At times he is like a other Pogba, hands on his hips.

9.) 31 Jan 2020 10:53:25
I don’t rate Martial at all.

If we had sold him and held onto Rom, we’d be in a much better position this year. Martial is just a confused player, doesn’t have the instincts to make it as a striker and hasn’t worked hard enough to improve his wing play.

10.) 31 Jan 2020 11:14:26
I think Martial is a better player than many give him credit for. That said, he doesn't look like he will become the world class striker he looked like he would grow in to during his first season at the club.

He is a good at linking up play and is the most clinical striker at the club (Greenwood not withstanding as he is in his debut season and isn't ready to be first choice starting striker every week) . He doesn't make enough selfless runs or gambling runs.

In the right set up and tactics he can be a very good striker. Considering this season we have struggled to create good goalscoring chances, and Martial has spent time out injured (which often means a player needs a game or two to play themselves back into form) . Martial has 8 goals in 1458 minutes which is a goal every 182 minutes or a goal every other game. Which is a solid scoring rate. If he hand't been injured and we had been creating more and better goalscoring chances he could be close to being one of the top scorers in the league.

The real issue with Martial is his injury record. He just can't stay fit for a whole season. That's why we need another central striker, with Rashford struggling centrally and Greenwood being a year or two away from being ready to step into that role.

My favourite person for that role would be Raul Jimenez, but he certainly won't be available mid-season. So someone like Giroud for 18 months would be a great option to allow Greenwood time to grow into the role.

11.) 31 Jan 2020 12:10:23
Shaps, you need to change your name to Stato. Or get a hobby.




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11 Jun 2021 12:50:15
With the recent chat around agent fees, didn't the Premier Leagur propose that rather than clubs playing the agents fees, it should be the players responsibility. Did that proposal get kicked into the long grass?


{Ed0666's Note - would you willingly pay money from you’re own pocket for agent fees when traditionally it’s the club that’s paid them? I wouldn’t mate. And I’m sure if they tried making this legislation there’d be a revolt

1.) 11 Jun 2021 13:53:42
Ed0666, if I wanted a professional to help me get the best job in my field, I am damn sure any future employer would never pay the fees. I don't get it in Football, like Grim said if you employ and agent to get you the best transfer fee and wages etc then you should be bloody paying them.

{Ed0666's Note - who said football was the real world mate?

2.) 11 Jun 2021 14:11:02
Just seems like a weird situation, its like if I get Mino to go into my boss, ask him for a pay rise, then Mino says to my boss, you have to pay my invoice as well for negotiating this payrise.

I was just reading about the tax implications as well, with agents working on both behalf of the club and the player, that blew my mind. Its Friday, too late in the week to deal with that kind of detail.

Ed666, you said traditionally, do you know how long clubs have been paying the agent fees, is this a recent thing over the last 20 years or has it been going on since the days of Billy Meredith.

{Ed0666's Note - don’t know mate sorry. Whose Billy Meredith?

3.) 11 Jun 2021 14:39:47
Too far removed, take it they are too busy to negotiate their own deal?

4.) 11 Jun 2021 14:40:42
Billy Meredith was the first Welsh Wizard, played for both City then United after City were found making illegal payments. We subsequently won our first League Championship.

For me he is up there with Duncan Edwards, George Best, Cantona and Ronaldo as the very best to play for United, now that is a debate.

{Ed0666's Note - thanks for the education mate I’ll be sure to google him 👍

5.) 11 Jun 2021 16:09:36
The whole thing seems bizarre to me and I can’t believe it hasn’t been regulated. The money gents re able to make is obscene and to demand a fee from a club for negotiating a transfer, I really don’t understand how it has come to this.

{Ed077's Note - well clubs do use those agents to negotiate and conclude those deals so it's not out of the world concept that those agents should thus be paid for their services by the club(s) I. However the figures involved are clearly insane and only rising and rising very window.

6.) 11 Jun 2021 15:56:55
Are clubs paying Agent fees for contracts and or transfers a thing peculiar to Football? As far as I am aware (and my knowledge here is limited I will freely admit) but in other sports such as the NFL the agent takes a percentage of the wages of the player for representing them in negotiations and for endorsements etc.

I have never really understood the reawon for allowing a system in football that allows a payment to an agent to get a lump sum for negotiating a transfer.

Then again I guess the clubs are at fault for allowing the system to be in place as is. They could all have refused to pay but I guess it suited some clubs generally the richest who were able to use their cash to more readily get the players they wanted, no doubt we are one of the worst offenders in enabling this.

7.) 11 Jun 2021 16:54:22
Supply and demand. If you don't want to pay the fees you don't have to. But then you won't get the players. I'm glad it's not regulated i'd hate anybody to tell me what I can or can't charge for my services.
I admire these guys they are getting paid huge sums for not a great deal of work.
It seems obscene but I bet if it was your son or brother earning those sums as an agent you wouldn't be unhappy.
Football fans are funny folk.
Some don't want the owners leaving debt on the club and taking dividends. Agents earn too much. Pkayers earn too much. Owners don't spend enough. Hard crowd to please us football fans.

8.) 11 Jun 2021 19:00:35
There are some players that will have agents and use them solely for transfer or contract negotiations and they might Employ a different agent or agency to represent them commercially.
My company sponsor several footballers golfers olymmic athletes etc all over the world and in many cases the agency we deal with is not the agent that would represent them for non commercial activities.
There are many players in the squad at united that have a much higher income for their offfield commercial interests than their 200k pw salary at United.
Paul pogba can earn as much as 250% more from his social media and sponsors than he earns playing for united.
Its a crazy world out there and there are ways of making money now at a rate that's just stratospheric.
The guys that employ the best agents and agency to Maximise their offfield potential earnings are coining it in. Fair play to them.

9.) 11 Jun 2021 20:32:40
I have no problem with agents representing players and taking a percentage of their earnings for their efforts, the more they make the player the more they make and good luck to them.

I do not agree that an agent should be payed by a club a fee to negotiate a transfer or should I say both clubs and especially not the amounts reported or eve getting a fee for negotiating a new contract with a team they already play for.

As I said I am aware we have probably benefitted at times in terms of players we obtained and have a responsibility as one of the clubs fuelling it.

Would I prefer a system where no fee was payable for an agent for arranging a transfer? The answer is yes.

I am aware that the fee in some sports is capped and I believe in many sports the agent would not get paid for the negotiation from the team itself.

Now you could argue that the net result would be more money would be paid to the top. On the other hand you could argue that the fees quoted as being paid to certain agents in certain deals would never have equated to money paid to that player.

I also read Johnathon Barnett stating he works solely for the player never the club and acts in the players interest only.

Do I think certain age to earn too much for their job? Yes

Do I think certain agents wield too much power I the modern game? Yes

For an example of its relevance too today, would I think we were foolish to pay the numbers quoted to Sancho's agents if they are at all accurate, Yes. If we do that (and I believe we did previously with Pogba) we may as well ask every agent to start negotiations by bending us over the boardroom table.

I don't have a problem with any player maximising their earnings, I don't mind agents taking their fair cut of any deal. I am afraid I don't feel the same about rinsing millions for one transfer, and yes it is the clubs to blame.



04 Jun 2021 16:40:03
Anyone interested in the Fan Ownership scheme to which the Glazers have agreed, or is it just lip service from the Americans?
How much of the 103 million Class B shares will they sell to the supporters?


1.) 04 Jun 2021 18:05:59
Not enough known about it yet. Until we see some serious evidence it's just lip service to placate angry fans.

As they say actions speak louder than words. But at the very least it's a positive step to see the Glazers in discussions with fans for the first time in 16 years.

2.) 04 Jun 2021 20:17:24
They are willing to let 1 million shares go at £10.00 each to fans. You cannot buy if you have ever been to Old Trafford or worn Green and Gold ever.



19 May 2021 15:00:37
Just seen Kane in the KFC on the Chester Road buying a Twister Wrap. Ed Woodward was with him, but I think he was just applying for a job.


1.) 19 May 2021 15:26:19
KFC better be careful or ed will sign McDonald's up as a sponsor.

2.) 19 May 2021 15:41:28
Hahahahah Grim, I can easily see Kane getting the shift supervisor job there ;)



19 May 2021 05:49:17
Congrats to Tony Sinclair and the ground's team for winning the Premier League Grounds Team of the Season.


1.) 19 May 2021 12:13:33
what was the total amount of mice they caught, any idea?



12 May 2021 18:21:54
Sad to see Casey Stoney leave, she has been a great coach. Seems like there have been some issues behind the scenes, which is always a concern.


1.) 12 May 2021 21:18:20
Concerns? She was doing ok on the footy wasn’t she?

2.) 12 May 2021 21:20:14
I’ve just read below. Sad.




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10 Jun 2021 19:14:31
Dortmund are notorious for setting an asking price and not budging. We have offered £67 million when they wanted £77 million. Will we now waste the summer arguing over £10 million, which is the equivalent of Phil Jones medical bill.




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08 Jun 2021 17:14:30
Its usually at this stage that Dortmund ask for a fee and United offer to pay a portion of the fee with the rest being made up of payments made when United win trophies. As United's trophy haul has been limited of late, Dortmund want the cash up front.




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01 Jun 2021 06:41:10
Didnt know Deco had become and agent.




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29 May 2021 13:17:25
I think your being overly optimistic Rac.
Basically Ed looks at his copy of FourFourTwo and decides to buy whoever is on the front cover. When he hears the quoted price, he spits out his Coco Puffs in disgust and offers a quarter of what was asked. United then spend the rest of the transfer window briefing journos that its almost done and the selling club will have to accept United's offer. Then at the end of the window when no one is bought, Ed and Matt panic, turn on SSN to see who is avaliable and then offer over the odds to appease the fans.
Sounds crazy, but that policy got us Cavani, and where would we be without him over the last few months.




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29 May 2021 08:28:58
Plan C, we only do Plan A and even if it fails we continue with Plan A.





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12 Jun 2021 21:47:43
Looks like he was awake when he left the field which has to be a good sign.
Full credit to the medical staff and to Kjaer, first on the scene to clear his airway and comforted his wife who understandably looked distraught.




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11 Jun 2021 14:40:42
Billy Meredith was the first Welsh Wizard, played for both City then United after City were found making illegal payments. We subsequently won our first League Championship.

For me he is up there with Duncan Edwards, George Best, Cantona and Ronaldo as the very best to play for United, now that is a debate.


{Ed0666's Note - thanks for the education mate I’ll be sure to google him 👍



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11 Jun 2021 14:11:02
Just seems like a weird situation, its like if I get Mino to go into my boss, ask him for a pay rise, then Mino says to my boss, you have to pay my invoice as well for negotiating this payrise.

I was just reading about the tax implications as well, with agents working on both behalf of the club and the player, that blew my mind. Its Friday, too late in the week to deal with that kind of detail.

Ed666, you said traditionally, do you know how long clubs have been paying the agent fees, is this a recent thing over the last 20 years or has it been going on since the days of Billy Meredith.


{Ed0666's Note - don’t know mate sorry. Whose Billy Meredith?



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09 Jun 2021 13:18:17
How can you be 100% confident on Henderson saving a penalty, how can you be 100% confident that we would have got to penalties with Henderson in goal.
I am 100% confident that if Henderson was in goal for the final then he would have made a huge mistake and cost us the game, that is how daft your comment is Shap.

If you want to look at Henderson's penalty stats he has faced 19 penalties over 6 years and 8 of them he has saved. Only 5 of those penalties have been at senior level and 3 of which he let in. So at senior level he has only saved 2 penalties. I have no problem with Ole going for experience on this occasion.

I think you could have made a better argument if you said that if Ole had made a substitution before the 105 minute, then I am 100% confident we would have won.