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27 Aug 2021 17:50:59
So Ronaldo comes home.


1.) 27 Aug 2021 18:38:11
Fred is a better midfielder than Martial is a forward. No chance this doesn’t upgrade us. He will even make our minefield look better.

I wasn’t convinced this is the best United deal to make if others can be made - still not sure but surely signing Even this Ronaldo is a HUGE upgrade on anything we have. He chose us is still a shock.

2.) 27 Aug 2021 20:45:50
Chelsea spent 100m on Lukaku. THIS ronaldo outscored Lukaku last season.

3.) 27 Aug 2021 22:10:44
Hard not to see this as a big step up. Last season, Martial, Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood managed 32 league goals between them. Even at 36 years old, Ronaldo bagged 29. With Bruno and Pogba feeding him, I can see him banging in at least 20 for us this season, which could be the difference between 2nd and 1st.

Hopefully we can now find takers for Martial, Dalot, Lingard and James and try and bring a central midfielder in. This is probably our best transfer window ever already, but a midfielder really would be the icing on the cake.

4.) 28 Aug 2021 07:05:23
I don't know why we want to sell Dalot.
He's young, he's Portuguese we have a few Portuguese players now, he's not on high wages, we don't have a backup RB, he can fill at LB as well.
He's better going forward than AWB, technically he's quite good, but maybe his crossing isn't great, but I would start him ahead of AWB given how we will have either ronaldo or Cavani as CF both world class in the air.

5.) 28 Aug 2021 09:53:17
rohan i don't think we'll sell dalot unless trippier is coming.

6.) 28 Aug 2021 09:54:21
Rohana dalot is good going forward, but awb is hands down a better defender than him. The position is defence so I'd take awb all day long. Dalot seems to forget he needs to defend a lot of the time and switches off. he would probably be a decent winger tbh.

7.) 28 Aug 2021 09:57:42
CR92 - this Ronaldo won’t be smashing 30 goals every season in for the next 5. It’s just not smart to compare the Lukaku deal with this I would think.

United’s valuation went up $300 million with this news in addition to gaining 1M new Instagram followers.

8.) 30 Aug 2021 00:40:54
FootballGoesInCircles, were not buying Ronnie for 5 yrs, If I'm not mistaken it's only a 2 year deal plus the option of a further yr! Players Like CR7, Messi and Zlatan are truely ageing like fine wine 😂 No matter what this deal is a win win for Man United whatever way yoy look at it. Financially, Mentality of a true Winner, the experience he passes on to the youngsters ect.



25 Aug 2021 15:28:10
“I don’t think much is going to happen. If something happens, it is a bonus. You never know what happens in the world of football. But we’ve had a very good window. I am happy with what we’ve done”.
Ole to a Norwegian journalist, so are we done for the window and are you happy with the squad?


1.) 25 Aug 2021 19:54:59
The fact that oles happy says a lot to be honest…our midfield is woeful yet he’s content to use it through the season. Probably better to not sign anyone than bring someone in and plonk them on the bench. Let’s face it, ole loves mcfred and is clearly blind to the fact they are hopeless.

2.) 25 Aug 2021 20:21:27
Or alternatively Ole says I’m really not happy with the squad. The players are awful etc. Come on guys get real.

3.) 25 Aug 2021 20:47:59
There’s nothing wrong with him saying “we’re a bit short in CM” tho is there Eric?

4.) 25 Aug 2021 20:51:26
I get that his response is what he’s expected to say etc and there’s no chance he would say anything else…what I’m getting at is that I’m not sure ole sees the midfield as a big problem like most of us do. He really seems to rate Fred, matic even though they offer nothing in their prospective roles.

5.) 25 Aug 2021 21:37:50
Says who tim? Where are you getting your information that Ole is happy with his midfield? He’s given one answer that should be taken at face value snd the vultures are out in force!

6.) 26 Aug 2021 10:39:12
As much as you lot on here think Ole is stupid he is fully aware we are short in midfield, everyone seems to think they are experts and he knows absolutely nothing. The same thing happened when he was playing Pereira regularly a few years ago because we had no other options, everybody was saying how can we see he’s not good enough but Ole can’t? He could, he just needed better options, which he got with Bruno and pereira never played again.

He’s always going to say he’s happy with the team, all managers do, Pep keeps saying that as well despite the fact they just offered £120m for a striker he’s adamant they don’t need one, maybe he’s clueless as well.

7.) 26 Aug 2021 17:55:15
Pep said they wanted to get an experienced striker but the prices being asked are beyond them, so if they have to, then they go with no striker. That was after the Leicester game.



06 May 2021 08:50:51
So Mata might be off to the Italian capital, think that will be a perfect move for him.


1.) 06 May 2021 09:45:59
I think Serie A is the ideal league for him. If he goes I'll wish him well.

2.) 06 May 2021 11:01:45
He needs to move and we need to reduce our wage bill.

3.) 06 May 2021 17:55:46
He’s been a magnificent servant to our club and I wish all the very best for whatever he chooses to do in his future. A proper honest footballer. Go well Juan.

4.) 07 May 2021 01:11:10
Yes scooby an all round good bloke.
Its a real conundrum some players face he has been a bit part player for 4 years. He has won a lot but I'm sure he could have played a lot more elsewhere but would have to turn his back on millions. We see it often in many clubs. Jones or rojo and jesse are good examples at united. Now jesse has seen that there is joy to be found elsewhere he has done so well he might earn more elsewhere. Its a tough decision to leave united voluntary.
Some players are happy to be great squad players also I suppose Juan is one of them. I'd like to see him have a last hurrah at a club of his choice.

5.) 07 May 2021 07:25:24
If rumours are true he may be going with matic and de gea too.

6.) 07 May 2021 12:24:08
My impression is that DeGea prefers Madrid to Rome for obvious reasons, but knows it will only happen if Oblak moves on.



25 Feb 2021 17:43:26
Good old paper talk, apparently we are selling Henderson and buying Donnarumma.


{Ed077's Note - Donnarumma's contract is up this summer and he hasn't yet signed a new deal at Milan just yet. I fully expect him to sign a new deal unless something goes wrong in a massive way.

Guess who is his agent though?

It's non other than Man Utd's favourite super agent, Mino Raiola himself. Rest you can figure what's coming I would hope.}

1.) 25 Feb 2021 22:07:25
Milan having their best season in about 10 years, but if your Donnarumma you want to be winning trophies, even if he is only 22 would you be thinking I would be better off somewhere else.

2.) 26 Feb 2021 05:48:12
Grimslives so you think he's going to come to us? We already have Henderson who is 23, knows the PL and has experience under his belt. Why would anyone in their sane mind replace him for someone outside of the PL who is talented for sure but not guaranteed to succeed. It's a huge risk.

It's all just paper talk trying to prop up United in the headlines and probably he gets a improved contract in the process.

3.) 26 Feb 2021 08:20:24
LPU, Donnarumma has huge experience for his age and is the better keeper of the two

Henderson is a bigger risk imo. He’s not convinced he can be better than DDG yet, whereas Donnarumma probably has.

4.) 26 Feb 2021 09:47:38
Wazza it's PL experience I am talking about. How is Henderson a bigger risk? He's already shown that he's a much better all round keeper than DeGea.

Donnarumma might have huge experience as you say but the PL is a different thing all together. Watched some youtube highlights and he doesn't look much convincing with his handling and not sure if he commands his box well and is good in the air. He reminds me of DeGea with his shot stopping ability but some times seems to parry the ball into danger areas. He probably isn't ready for the PL and has lots to improve in my opinion.

Anyone seen enough of Donnarumma to suggest he is ready for the PL?

5.) 26 Feb 2021 12:54:12
LPU I don’t agree for a second that DH has shown he’s a better keeper than DDG.

Dave looks past his best but he was considered the best in the world. Henderson has done nothing yet to earn such praise.

{Ed077's Note - I too dont think Dean Henderson is a better GK than DDG just yet. However it's very easy to see that DH is a better footballer than DDG and is more suited suited to the way United play nowadays.}

6.) 26 Feb 2021 14:12:36
I mean except by the looks of it be the difference between Sheffield United getting a top half finish or relegated.

{Ed077's Note - I don't think it's fair to say DH is the sole difference between Sheffield Utd finishing in the top half last season and being rock bottom this. Ramsdale not shot ng their style of play and frankly being an inferior GK is certainly a contributing factor and so is the large number of injuries their defence has suffered. For example O'Conell being out injured for the whole of the season has unsettled their defence quite a bit and they have had to play a near retirement Jagielka fair few amount of times due to various players I defence getting injured. They are so reliant on their system and their first 11 that even 2or 3 players missing can completely make them very weak. And they have been very unlucky in most games too.

But yeah DH would most likely have helped them get a few more points I think}



27 Oct 2020 20:01:42
Not United related but of general imterest to all us football observers, Bartomeu has resigned, is. this the beginning of Messi and Barcelona patching. up their differences and him signing a new contract?


1.) 27 Oct 2020 21:37:18
Nope, they are still imploding.

2.) 28 Oct 2020 09:48:29
Like us really but no one wants to admit it.

3.) 28 Oct 2020 17:25:18
That's a good point exfzz.




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17 Nov 2021 08:55:51
Southgate on the verge of extending his England contract until Germany 2024. Another one off the potential replacement list in the summer.


1.) 17 Nov 2021 09:30:57
Excellent news from a United point of view in my opinion, as bad as Ole is, I don't want Southgate.

2.) 17 Nov 2021 12:22:27
What's a contract mean? Just more money to get out of something. Rest assured if England lose three group games next year he'll be as available as the next guy :D.

3.) 17 Nov 2021 15:27:45
I don’t get the hate for Southgate, he’s the most successful England Manager since Revie, despite not having the golden generation his predecessors had.

He has blooded an awful lot of youngsters, changes tactics when he needs to, and created a very harmonious camp (albeit Greenwood seems out out) .

The accusation is he was too negative in the semi and the final which is possible true, but remember how many finals Klopp lost before he won one. I’m excited to see how we do in Qatar, and it’s not often I’ve felt that way about England,

4.) 17 Nov 2021 16:51:46
He's such a negative manager, much like Ole. He sets up to nullify, not play to strengths.

5.) 17 Nov 2021 16:55:42
AJH you can't be serious can you?

Let’s start from the top. Southgate is a terrible, defensive, dull and unadventurous manager. Grinding out 1-0 wins against average sides isn’t the mark of greatness.

six defensive players at home against the third worst ranking team in the Euros back in June. managerial experience of note is taking Middlesbrough down and losing a semi and a finale they should have won.

He plays awful football that relies on set pieces, two of the easiest runs to international finales you'r likely to get and struggled against far lesser teams.

But it all makes sense now if I replace the name Southgate with Ole the body of text wouldn't really change, they both nice guys great, they get the players smiling great but they don't win the games that needs winning or should win and essentially both let them selfs and the fans down with their lack of ability.

6.) 17 Nov 2021 17:02:40
I don't think there's hate for him.

He's just the English Ole, and I think fans have had enough of that.

7.) 17 Nov 2021 17:55:13
Southgate is far too defensive.
Even with plenty of attacking talents, he mostly fields a back 5 and 2 defensive midfielders protecting them.

8.) 17 Nov 2021 19:47:54
Look in not English but like seeing the England team do well in tournaments ( not sure I'd want them to win excluding the United players ?) although the media do my head in.
I'm not sure what there is to criticise Southgate for. I see the caution in his approach for sure but international football is different imo and most of the time it's all about the result on the day the personell is more fluid and changes again game by game.
He has done better than any other English manager for 70 years wc semi with players playing that most on here don't rate highly. Lost euro final on pens. Getting closer each time. Bloods young players well into intl football. Has the trust of his snr pros. Is flexible in his formations and will over see kane taking the all time scoring record.
I don't believe the approach he has would work well at club level as its a bit predictable and too cautious.
I can't remember an outstanding intl team playing amazing football from any nation since Brazil 70s or Holland 74&78 teams that play great attacking football. Maybe the French team with Henry.
But England are a nation that won 1 tournament 70 years ago not been in a final since until Southgate came along and your not happy I don't get it. He had you competing over last 4 years better than any of you have seen in your lives yet he is useless.
If our new manager has us 2nd in league and cl finals and semi finals I'd be delighted that we are competitive again.
England are no Manchester United they have only won once in their history I don't get that he is so unpopular.
To be fair he is not the most endearing of characters but he is a top pro and got you back at the top table. I'm really looking forward to the wc actually I think there will be lots different about it this time and could be a good watch for a neutral like me that is not really inspired by intl football.

9.) 17 Nov 2021 20:05:40
Oh god don’t use the word hate, people will be getting arrested ?.



28 Oct 2021 14:21:47
With Maguire and Shaw having a bad few games since the international break, would you drop them for the Spurs match?


1.) 28 Oct 2021 14:37:36
Varane coming back will be an important boost.

Maguire has been disastrous and deserves to be dropped. However, the clueless one will still keep his favorites instead of picking players on merit.

2.) 28 Oct 2021 15:29:56
I would not drop Shaw but certainly Maguire he has been so poor this season and I'd drop Lindleof as well, give Baily a chance, see how we fair with 2 pacey CB's.

What has Ole got to lose apart from his dream job but playing too safe has just about lost him that anyway. He will probably try to sit deep so I think he will play Maguire and Varane together. I can't see him being bold now, leopards and spots and all that.

3.) 28 Oct 2021 15:30:37
I don't see that their replacements are of any better quality. Telles came with a good reputation as a goal-scorer (ok, mostly penalties) and has a decent cross but I still think Shaw is one of our better players. Maguire has had a run of terrible games (think he was actually at fault for all 4 of Leicester's goals, which is spectacular), but think Bailley/ Lindelof are even worse options. We're screwed. If Conte did come in with his 3 man defence I imagine reinforcements would be required as there's no-one else.

4.) 29 Oct 2021 06:08:09
Telles scored a worldie in his last start.
Since then he seems to have been frozen out.



24 Oct 2021 10:06:28


1.) 24 Oct 2021 10:32:37
We should see Pogba in midfield and Bruno deeper with either OR Scott, but Ole has shown far too much timidity so I’m guessing it will be McFred. Who knows he might go the whole hog and play McFred and Matic ?.

2.) 24 Oct 2021 11:22:43
My guess is mcfred and pogba on the left.

3.) 24 Oct 2021 11:49:23
If Rashford is fit, he must start ahead of Pogba on the left.

4.) 24 Oct 2021 12:19:19
Ole can't lose this, Mcfred all the way, Rashford on the left hitting them on the break. Predictable but effective.

5.) 24 Oct 2021 13:05:00
I saw a comment recently which suggested playing Bruno in midfield as a number 8 alongside Fred, with pogba further forward as a number 10.

Bruno has the work rate, intelligence and passing ability to play that position perfectly. I'd love to see it tried.

6.) 24 Oct 2021 14:36:00
Maybe red, but not against Liverpool today. If everyone is fit I would bench Pogba or Greenwood. McTom and Fred in midfield.

Could play McTom, fred and Pogba in midfield 3 with rash and ronaldo as wide strikers, fernandes as a false 9. I think that could be very effective.

7.) 24 Oct 2021 18:30:55

8.) 24 Oct 2021 18:33:37

9.) 24 Oct 2021 18:44:29
Bruno loses the ball far too often to play central midfield. You need him higher up the pitch taking risks.

The manager will be petrified of losing here. He'd snap Klopps hand off for a draw and that's never a good mindset to go into a game.

We have enough to hurt them but id worry about us defensively. Clean sheets are hard to come by so this should have plenty of goals.

Id love to see us be brave but that's a tall order considering our manager is a coward.



20 Oct 2021 16:55:23
Excited for tonight match, despite all the negativity over the last few matches I have a feeling tonight we will comfortably beat Atalanta 3-1.


1.) 20 Oct 2021 17:21:09
Atalanta are a well coached, energetic side who are very clever on the counter. If we play like we did against Villarreal we won’t be as lucky this time.

2.) 20 Oct 2021 17:30:37
Zapata looks class, but as Milan showed a few weeks ago, they can be undone at the back.
We have to play to our best though, any repeat of the Leicester shenanigans and Atalanta will turn us over.

3.) 20 Oct 2021 18:18:52
I'm also hoping for a change in mood grim. I hope to see some performances from the players, they need to step up now.

4.) 20 Oct 2021 19:00:47
I would take a boring 1-0 win at the moment. After the last few results just don't concede and get a goal, get the points and move on the Liverpool on the weekend.

5.) 20 Oct 2021 20:00:15
From what little I've seen of Atalanta, they play a similar style to Leeds. I'm expecting a big win.

{Ed0666's Note - you should hope so they have 5 players out

6.) 20 Oct 2021 20:39:05
Whoops it looks that reality has hit home. Just because you hope everyone is cheerful it doesn't mean we'll play better or have any tactics. And 2 nil down after 25mins shows the standard of coaching and management.
But we can all be cheerful.

7.) 20 Oct 2021 20:52:16
Said more in hope than expectation, Ed.

{Ed0666's Note - Harry Mcguires defending for the first goal is shocking

8.) 20 Oct 2021 21:40:08
Will have to be 3-2 Grim.



20 Oct 2021 11:04:41
Steve Bruce is available, is it best to strike now and get him in before someone else snaps him up.
Dream scenario is Bruce holding up that Big Earred Jug at the end of the season and we party in the street till the small hours.


1.) 20 Oct 2021 12:18:23
We need to be awake and guard Ole. Newcastle just might be tempted by the enormous success and the impeccable growth that United have made under Ole. They might come calling.

2.) 20 Oct 2021 12:54:19
I shouldn't make too many plans for Steve Bruce just yet - he still has to nip to the Saudi embassy to get his pay off. I beleive they call it severence pay.

3.) 20 Oct 2021 14:36:49
Ticks a lot of boxes, knows the club and the United way, premier league experience . Fergie has probably already given him the call to go over to his house and be anointed as the next chosen one.

4.) 20 Oct 2021 16:13:21
“I think it might be my last job. It has been very, very tough. To never really be wanted, to feel that people wanted me to fail and saying I would fail, that I was useless, a fat waste of space, a tactically inept cabbage head”.
Steve Bruce after being sacked by Newcastle, makes you think doesn't it.

5.) 20 Oct 2021 16:39:07
The 6 million or so payoff should be of some comfort though. retire to a sunny spot. Never had Steve down as a sensitive type. I'd let someone call me a lot worse for premier league money.

6.) 20 Oct 2021 16:40:41
Horrific Grim, should make a lot of people think before they call people names to be honest.

7.) 20 Oct 2021 16:40:50
Steve Bruce was a warrior for us and part of the team that eventually won the EPL after 26 years. One of the best players never to get an England cap.

He’s never been a top class Manager but he’s achieved 1,000 games as a Manager so clearly at the right level he knows what he is doing. Shearer told him not to take the Newcastle job and the fans didn’t want him from the off. He deserved better than what he got so I hope he gets a huge payout and puts his feet up.

If he gets stuck he could do panto and play Widow T****y.

8.) 20 Oct 2021 16:44:16
Yeah it does, Ole with spring greens for a head!

9.) 20 Oct 2021 17:02:38
Maybe he will write some more books?

{Ed0666's Note - wow the ridicule for an ex club legend on this page is preposterous. I wonder how you treat your foe?

10.) 20 Oct 2021 17:10:14
Im not ridiculing him, maybe just making a little fun but I've not written a book or managed a premier league team so hats off to Steve Bruce for both those achievements.

11.) 20 Oct 2021 17:19:57
I think it's easy to sit there not earning huge sums of money and assume we would be fine with all the name calling and abuse if we were on that sort of money. Maybe some like to think that because it makes their conscience feel clearer for the things they have said.

Truth is our feelings are tied into how much money we get paid. And while one person saying something might be water off a ducks back, when it's thousands saying these things every week it must get to you at some point.

I remember a great quote from one of my favourite films. "The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle. "

Which highlights how easily it can be for the words people say about you impacting how you see yourself.

I think the internet and social media makes things much tougher for people who become targets as it adds a level of anonymity which always emboldens people to push things further and say things they normally wouldn't.

What happened to the old adage of "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all".

{Ed0666's Note - Kudos

12.) 20 Oct 2021 17:26:44
He’d get in the back 4 . Still probably faster than Maguire.

13.) 20 Oct 2021 18:15:12
If anyone ever had any doubts he has laid it out there in his interview with the Telegraph - says he was hired with the aim to keep them up each season, very little or no money to spend . He isn't a great maanger but then if this is true what were the fans expecting from him?

14.) 20 Oct 2021 19:31:11
He had a very similar record to Benitez who they loved up there. Go figure.

Awesome player for us, solid and organised manager at Championship level.

15.) 20 Oct 2021 19:39:06
Very good championship manager getting teams up and a true pro, always respected him. Wish him all best for future.




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04 Dec 2021 09:34:33
Ralf said yesterday he will only buy in January if it is a player who improves the team and that those are rarely available in winter, so I wouldn't expect much movement.
In the summer we might have a new manager coming in, so obviously they will have a say in who we target.




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04 Dec 2021 09:32:18
Ralf wanted to keep him but sometimes you just need a break from the intensity of it all I guess. Who knows after a 6 month sabbatical the new manager may want to bring him back on board.
Personally I think if he does want to pursue a career in coaching it would do him no harm to search for a role abroad in Spain, Germany or Italy and learn away from the spotlight.




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28 Nov 2021 13:21:36
I hear he is the coach at Sporting.




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28 Nov 2021 13:19:56
Are we doing a Cantona appreciated thread?

"My best moment? I have a lot of good moments but the one I prefer is when I kicked the hooligan. "

Disclaimer: This post does not endorse violence of any kind, even against hooligans.




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25 Nov 2021 17:03:23
Luckhurst did a poll of who people wanted as the next manager, 34% wanted Poch, 59% wanted Ten Hag.





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06 Dec 2021 09:02:44
Apparently we won the ball back 12 times in Palace's half, something we haven't managed since the Fergie era. Lots more movement off the ball as well, making themselves available for a pass rather than being static. Positive start.




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29 Nov 2021 13:48:15
We say we are a club that develops youth and brings players through from the academy, but are we?

There is the unbroken record since the year dot of having an academy player in the match day squad, but having an academy player on the bench wat hing a game doesn't show development for me.
How many academy players are actually successful at United, the class of 92 is an anomaly, never to be repeated.
If you look at the Jimmy Murphy winners for the last 25 years, what happened to them, only one of those 25 you could argue has been a success at United.




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28 Nov 2021 13:24:30
I hear Harry is planning to wear Phil's shirt and try to sneak on, hope nobody notices.




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26 Nov 2021 17:05:05
The academy and development was Murtough domain, so that would mean him delegating it out the Ralf, interesting power shift maybe.




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26 Nov 2021 17:09:30
And McNeil, Shoretire. Maybe he could look at bringing back Garner as well. There is a lot of talent in our youth ranks.