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03 Jan 2024 10:15:57
I believe that United are now interested in Michael Olise who apparently has a release clause of £100 million. I really do not understand why he wasn't bought two years ago. It was as plain as the nose on your face that he would develop into a really top class player. Why are United's coaches not able to identify players such as Olise? Why wait until the price rises to such levels?
1.) 03 Jan 2024 11:23:34
I said at the time that he was a player to keep an eye on and that he's the sort of player we should sign while he was still at Reading.
That said he was very raw at the time and he needed regular game time, ideally at the EPL level to develop. Whether he'd have got that at United or dealt with the pressure of playing for United at that age is another thing entirely.
We were chasing Sancho at the time and he was already playing regularly and performing at a higher level. So it made more sense to prioritise him over someone like Olise.
The frustrating thing is that when the Sancho deal originally fell through Olise would have been an ideal player to sign then, but we went for the relatively unknown options of Amad and Pellistri.
In hindsight sight Olise looks like the player we should have signed instead of either of or even both of Amad and Pellistri.
However, with how we have handled both of those players careers up until this point maybe it was better for Olise to stay at Reading for another season and then move to Palace. He's had three season's of regular football and has been able to develop into a player who will likely cost between 60 and 100m now.
Whereas Amad and Pellistri are still waiting to have a real chance of a breakthrough. While only Amad when on loan at Sunderland has actually got a full season of regular minutes under his belt. With both of them having pretty poor loans at Rangers and Deportivo Alaves respectively.
Personally I don't see Pellistri making it at United. He's 22 now and struggles to get more than a few minutes to see out games. He's potentially another Zoran Topic. A player who has the technical skills and seems bright in moments, but never quite suited to the EPL. But will go on to have a good career in mainland Europe.
We should look to sell him in the summer, for us to recoup some funds and for him to be able to actually go on and start building his career. He'll do very well in La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1 or even the Bundesliga. Although he may need to take a step to a league like the Eredivisie or Primeira Liga in Portugal first to get those regular minutes in a more technical and less physically demanding league before a move to one of Europe's top five leagues.
Amad I think could still prove to be a good player for us. While he has a similar small stature to Pellistri he has a stronger core strength and seems more willing to engage in the physical nature of football in England. While still possessing great technical ability, genuinely two footed, and with a touch of flair. He has a really good chance between now and the summer to stake a claim for a regular starting spot. He had a great loan last season at Sunderland, and we have a massive hole on the right hand side. With Greenwood and Sancho seemingly being ushered out the back door, Pellistri unable to step up, and Antony struggling to justify his selection, there has never been and probably never will be a clearer path into the first team.
It's down to Amad to step up and show that he can match Antony's off the ball work rate, ability to follow instructions, while also offering more goal threat and chance creation. He will probably have to do so from the bench to start with. Firstly because he's building up fitness after a long term injury. Secondly because he is unproven and has to earn his starts by showing what he can do against tiring legs later in a game. Can he show he has the ability to effect a game both by coming on and creating goals when chasing a game, and by doing the defensive side to see out a game. Once he's shown he can do that then he will have earned a chance as a starter. Then we will see if he is ready to step up, or whether he is still a season or so away. Still a good option from the bench while he develops probably.
2.) 03 Jan 2024 14:08:54
Because many players don't actually make the grade in the end. So it is very risky to spend even £10m here and there on potential that may or may not come good.
3.) 03 Jan 2024 14:32:50
Every player purchased is a risk to some extent. United do not have a problem paying £80 million for a player who is barely worth a quarter of that figure. Why would they baulk at paying £10 to £15 million for a promising player who could be loaned back to the club? Money comes easy to United because of their popularity. They take huge hits on flops in terms of transfer fees and wages, but it doesn’t seem to bother them. I just wonder about some of our scouts. Neil Warnock revealed recently that he could have bought Van Dijk for £6 million but his own chief scout felt that he was too slow. We should have bought him. We were interested in him at the time but Southampton bought him. Could our scouts not have spotted his ability and his potential?
4.) 03 Jan 2024 15:04:09
That is true Syd. However, if we can actually create good development plans for young players that include quality loans and a clear idea about how a player should develop. Then it's probably better to bring in 7 kids for 10m each than spend that 70m on a player like Sancho or Antony. If even one of those kids makes it as a top player we'll be better off. If two or more do then we are laughing, while the others would probably be able to be sold for more than we paid for them 2-3 years down the line.
All ifs, buts, and maybes mind. However, it is obvious that we haven't signed enough players who we could develop into top stars and w haven't develop the few we have.
5.) 03 Jan 2024 15:13:15
Is he a good as Zaha? Or awb.
Mental money for a very average player. I don't think he will be playing for united next season.
6.) 03 Jan 2024 15:39:41
Shappy, hard for us to justify spending 10s of millions on youth and loaning them out. We barely have a penny to scratch our arse with these days. Plus a lot of youth automatically think they've made it when we sign them. Then there is the United tax, a £3m player for Southampton is £10m if we become interested. Also some players develop well simply because they are happy where they are. Olise is one of them types, I think that's why Chelsea tried to sign with an offer of keeping him at CP for a season. I could be wrong, but think that was the case. But Chelsea had much more to spend than us. We had a shoestring (so to speak), but needed wholesale changes.
7.) 03 Jan 2024 16:47:36
We spend a lot more on players than do Liverpool and Man City yet our players are inferior. I think poor recruitment has been our downfall. Yes, some players suit certain clubs. All the more important for us to pinpoint players with the right character as well as ability. How many of our players would go through a brick wall for the club?
8.) 04 Jan 2024 08:22:06
I think we will get associated with many right wingers from now till the end of the season and in full flow come summer. Antony and Pellistri not good enough imo. I don't believe we will do anything this window. I would like to see Amad given a run as he did well in his short sub vs forest.
My fav right winger is Nico Williams from Bilbao. A bit like my Kudus rants but he is better than kudus in terms of ceiling. Top Top player in the making and will end up at a big club IMO still a bit raw but getting better every year. Goes past players with ease.
9.) 04 Jan 2024 10:05:34
As much as I'd like to I don't see it. Clubs don't buy a player for £80m (Antony) then replace him a season later. There isn't room for both, who's going to buy Antony from us except at a huge loss? We're shafted in this position, the best outcome is currently playing on loan in Spain.
10.) 04 Jan 2024 16:04:43
Spenno
I think we will see a rightwinger come in the summer. Personally would love to see greenwwod back but don't think it will happen. The greenwood money and some other guys on loan assuming they end up being sold should give us a sizeable transfer kitty.
Greenwood, Williams, fish, cas, Pellistri or Amad, alvaro, sancho, DVB and probably a few more. They hardly play or not even in the squad at so not losing much besides cas. Reckon we will spend 250 mill or even more in the summer.
11.) 05 Jan 2024 11:57:16
Spenno, Antony will almost certainly stay with us next season. The club will not be able to afford taking the kind of financial hit on him that we would need to take to move him on. Not only has his performances been poor, putting teams off. His off the field issues haven't yet been totally laid to bed. Meaning they could be buying a player who might end up having to defend himself in court.
Hopefully however he stays as a squad option rather than as a starter. I do feel a little sorry for him in some ways, he tries hard, gives his all for the shirt and does have a good amount of talent. It's just not working out for him. His decision making on the ball is awful, and his confidence going forward seems drained. I think he could leave to a club in Serie A or the Bundesliga and do very well. Either a league played at a slower pace or a more transitional league.
While it might be good to bring in a RW in the summer for me its probably the 6th most important position to be looking at, with a CB, two midfielders, a RB and a ST to rotate/ challenge Hojlund all of higher need in my opinion.
I like the idea of giving Amad more game time on the right this season. While I'm also curious to try playing an overlapping RB like Frimpong, allowing the RW player to play more inside meaning we could try someone like Mount or Bruno (my preference) in that role.
However, we need to sort out the defence and midfield structure as a point of priority. While a first choice RB (as both part of the defensive rebuild and as a ball progressing option) and a ST to take some of the pressure off of Hojlund and allow him to develop into the top class player he looks like he can be, are also more vital than the RW for me.
Although if I was to pick out a preferred target for RE, then Olise would feature highly on my list of options.
12.) 08 Jan 2024 06:29:23
Andy Cole and Yorkie rate Olise and Eze very highly. Think both are no brainers who would walk into the current team. Then again both rate Rash hands down as the best player in the united squad LOL.
08 Jan 2020 23:18:36
I don't get why we are not interested in Ndidi. We are crying out for him.
1.) 08 Jan 2020 23:52:47
because our scouts like watching players 60 times in warm weather. so they can pass it off as work.
2.) 09 Jan 2020 08:54:01
Jodler I'm with you 100% on ndidi. He's been playing well for a while now, he's on 23 aswell. I'd prefer him over most of the other names we have been linked with.
3.) 09 Jan 2020 10:11:35
Ndidi would be a great signing in many ways. My only concern is his passing is quite limited from what I've seen. Elite level at breaking up play and protecting the back four. But not very useful when your in possession.
Personally I would prefer a player who might have slightly less ability when defending if they had significantly more ability on the ball.
The games we have struggled to win this season haven't been the games where we have had less possession but the ones where we have more. This is mostly due to the lack of ability on the ball in our midfield. Ndidi although a great player wouldn't solve this issue but actually compound it.
I'd love to see us sign one of Kalvin Phillips or Denis Zakaria.
4.) 09 Jan 2020 10:16:13
That QPR lad Eberechi Eze looks like some player, already 10 goals and 6 assists from Midfield.
5.) 09 Jan 2020 11:22:51
Shappy. Ruben Neves is a better choice than Zakaria and Kalvin Philips.
He has PL experience as well.
6.) 09 Jan 2020 12:26:19
Ruben Neves will be a dream signing, works hard for the team, passing is really good and has an ability to score an odd screamer.
Our scouting team does absolutely nothing i feel, players like Neves, Maddison, Buendia all were coming to PL after a brilliant season yet we were never interested.
7.) 09 Jan 2020 12:34:43
Ndidi passing is limited?
What about Mctominay who everyone raves about? Very very limited player. Backwards, sidewards, 6' 4" and can't head for rubbish. Involved in 5 goals in about 80 games. He's weak as piss. If he wasn't passionate everyone would stop bumming him. People blindsighting passion for ability.
Pogba has created more chances in about 20+ less games. Want him out.
8.) 10 Jan 2020 02:21:28
wilbot, I would rather have a player with limited abilities who plays for the team rather than the "World class" Pogba who performs every once in a while. A player with all the talent but it's a shame he is poorer than even the average player when he doesn't perform - misplaced passes, pathetic shooting, loses the ball and pedestrian most times.
I would rather take Christiano Ronaldo at 34 than Pogba any day. And, by the way it's Pogba and his agent making all the noises of wanting out. The sooner we have him out the better.
29 Sep 2018 12:19:31
Nicola Barella reminds me very much of Paul Scholes - intelligent and skilful. I have heard that we are interested in him, along with a number of other clubs. Here's hoping.
1.) 29 Sep 2018 15:16:54
We will no doubt hear a lot about players we are supposedly in for over the next few days just to try and keep the fans negativity down.
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13 Oct 2024 20:53:22
I never understood why United sold Alvaro Fernandez. A young promising left back. Could they not have loaned him out to Benfica? I know they had Shaw and Malacia but, come on, a blind man could have seen his promise. Baffling.
1.) 13 Oct 2024 22:33:22
Jodler
Read my posts all last summer, to the usual insults on here.
2.) 14 Oct 2024 05:57:37
Sometimes players don't want to wait and will push for a move to get regular playing time depending on who is ahead of them and its in the interest of both parties to part ways. No one really knows the details and happens at all clubs. Look at Palmer at Chelsea.
We have sell on and buy back clauses on most of the guys we have moving. Some develop further and some don't. Pellistri which is another player you were very keen on is finding it difficult in Greece and hardly playing. Mc who many here wanted gone year after year is having a great start in Napoli. It cuts both ways.
It all part of being a big club and having a major academy. Would not lose too much sleep over it. Shaw's injury is the reason this is not getting airtime and easy to point fingers.
3.) 14 Oct 2024 06:31:32
To add to Alvaro being sold I was also surprised to see a young lad go who played pre season and looked good.
Bruno Fernandes on Maxi Oyedele's United’s exit:
“I think he was always one of the players that everyone at the club thought he would be one of the ones coming from the Academy into the first-team.
He has great qualities, he's a great kid and really humble. ”
Looked like he had something in pre season, flogged off by ETH.
4.) 14 Oct 2024 09:13:55
Ahmad
I wasn’t “very keen” on Pellestri but did think he deserved more of a chance than he was given and was binned off when ETH wanted £85m Antony. That went well didn’t it.
5.) 14 Oct 2024 10:27:28
Time will tell with Maxi obviously but he had 2 loans at Altrincham and Forest Green and only got minimal minutes and games for each, he then ended up going to Legia Warsaw so the top teams weren’t queuing up for him. I’d trust our new team in charge over his mate Bruno Fernandes, nice of Bruno to say a few good words about him though.
6.) 14 Oct 2024 10:28:23
Red Man, I was Surprised at Max Oyedele going too but he wanted to leave for more playing time rather than wait.
7.) 14 Oct 2024 11:06:12
Arty
Yes Maxi was not one I was annoyed about, surprised more than annoyed, I thought he looked good in pre season Annoyed about Fernandez when we have no left back at all until Amass is ready, madness.
8.) 14 Oct 2024 12:36:16
I remember Ten haag addressed that too and he was told that Malacia and shaw were closer to returning than they actually were.
9.) 14 Oct 2024 13:12:54
To add
The buy back clause for Fernandez is reported to be €20m after selling him for just €6m a few months ago. If we pay €20m and reports suggest we are thinking about it, or Benfica sell him for a nice juicy profit very soon, someone’s head has to roll.
10.) 14 Oct 2024 13:23:42
Maxi is not good enough Imo and would get swallowed up in the pl. He did the right thing and so did we. He went for 300k guys. Pellistri same thing, it sucks but it is what it is. Hardest positions to play for at United are the wings and forwards given players who have played there before and the expectations.
I read we have 17 mill buy back clause on Alvaro, if they think he is the right solution going forward they will buy him back. In the meantime more interested about players on our books like Shaw and malacia and hopefully seeing them back playing.
Bruno always praises everyone here now or who has been at the club. He is very liked by pretty much everyone.
If you want some real news we may be buying another 6 next year or evn sooner :) )
11.) 14 Oct 2024 13:29:32
Gomes went for the same reasons. If an individual thinks they're is a low chance of career progression where he is he is right to move.
Can't wait forever.
12.) 14 Oct 2024 13:36:58
Also contrary to urban myths all signings this past summer, ALL were led by the new leadership. ETH had a say but many people involved.
So hang the good, bad, ugly, great and however they turn out on all of them and don't pick and choose.
13.) 14 Oct 2024 13:44:46
Redman
Why does some one's head need to roll? On that basis the city leadership should all be sacked because palmer seems to be a top top player and they let him go. He would probably cost close to 80/ 90 mill today.
Real has done these deals for many years where they buy back players for a lot higher than they sold them. Why are you always looking to hang someone for anything.
Players leave clubs all the time, clubs move on and so do the players. It is not a crisis mate, move on.
14.) 14 Oct 2024 14:09:59
The fringe / youth players often look like the better players in meaningless pre-season games. It's their chance to impress, probably their only chance. The more senior players still have their heads in beach mode.
15.) 14 Oct 2024 17:58:28
Ahmad
If your wrong decision cost the company you work for/ run €14m, when it could and should have been prevented, would you expect a warm welcome in the boardroom? If it was one of your senior staff, you would have to deal with it. Materiality and 14million is pretty material.
It is theoretical because it hasn’t happened yet, but the fact is we sold a left back good enough to start for a club like Benfica, and to be considered by Real and Barca, when instead playing makeshift because we didn’t judge the situation with Shaw and Malacia properly. Whose head should roll depends on the decision process and advice. We would look ridiculous. Accountability has to be part of this and you should know that if you run a business.
City don’t make many mistakes, rectify them when they do. Palmer looks a big one, but they also bought a few full backs as well.
16.) 14 Oct 2024 19:24:13
Redman
Every club in football wins some and loses some on transfers depending on who you talk to. 40% to 50% of transfers actually don't work out for various seasons and based on your logic there will not be anyone left to sack in the industry.
What did phillips and nunes cost city and how many minutes have they played. Phillips is gone now but Nunes been there 18 months almost.
How often is Darwin Nunez starting for Liverpool. He is one of their record signing and playing second fiddle to a guy they signed for half his cost.
some of the chelsea players look like great value and some look like an absolute bust given what they have spent on them. its football you win some you lose some.
I can keep going and going.
Finally, which journo said we are looking at buying him back. Is it ornstein, jacobs, romano or just bs on X from random people. Its a good story to make the rounds given our left backs are injured.
We have a sell on clause so either way we are covered.
17.) 14 Oct 2024 19:46:47
Palmer asked to leave as he'd been struggling to game time, and with the likes of Haaland and Foden (at least) ahead of him at the time it seemed a fair valuation. Guess he got the last laugh. City always struggle to keep their 'reserve' striker (Jesus / Alvarez), they're never going to displace the viking then it's a scrap to displace the golden child Foden.
18.) 14 Oct 2024 19:56:05
Chelsea took a chance on palmer and it looks a good one. They also let Mo Salah slip through their fingers. Big clubs make big decisions and some work out, some don't.
19.) 15 Oct 2024 06:43:15
dodgy
They lost kdb because Mourinho did not think he was ready to play and give him the minutes he wanted. The point is it happens everywhere and why the drama.
Real Madrid bought back Fran Garcia after selling him with a buy back clause. The stories about Madrid being interested is just a wind up story imo and our fans are so easy to bait. They are zeroed in on Alphonso Davies. So with mendy, garcia, davies assuming it happens good luck to alvaro getting minutes if he ever went there.
Personally I would go all out and see if we can get Davies next summer or even this jan as he is in his last year of his contract.
08 Oct 2024 18:47:05
Many outlets suggesting that Zirkzee may be sold after ten games. Really. What kind of club would do that without allowing him a settling period of at least a season?
1.) 08 Oct 2024 18:57:18
Ever considered the outlets might not be telling the truth about the situation lol.
2.) 08 Oct 2024 19:08:53
We’ll still be paying for him in 10 years let alone selling him after 10 games.
3.) 08 Oct 2024 21:02:05
Its the international break 99% of what they will write is garbage.
4.) 09 Oct 2024 10:47:35
Many outlets suggest that ETH will be sacked after The 'meeting' on Tuesday. They make stuff up!
5.) 09 Oct 2024 15:26:32
I am not a Utd fan but selling a player after 10 games is shocking if true, players need time to settle into a new league, especially young players.
6.) 09 Oct 2024 19:20:46
Especially young foreign players coming from a different league, Dididido ?.
29 Sep 2024 23:09:11
We are seriously lacking a playmaker, one who can dictate the pace and tempo of a game. Bruno simply not good enough, Mainoo not quite ready yet, Ugarte not that type of player. We need a player in the mould of Michael Carrick or Paul Scholes. And clearly lack of pace in defence is a serious issue.
1.) 30 Sep 2024 06:51:27
I was in such disbelief I watched the game over again just to get my head around who did what and understand what just happened. Ruined a really good weekend.
We were so bad and evident we can't pass through teams that press really well and we have mistakes waiting to happen and its not just one player here or there. Fernandes red card whether you think it was or not just capped a half of total ineptness.
Even when we break the press there are too many in this team that make the wrong pass, wrong turn, a poor pass or whatever you want to call it. Everything looks rushed and total lack of composure.
We had zero control in terms of managing the pace of the game and cutting out the mistakes, one bad pass or poor decision after another. It was a fast open game and it suited them as their pace is miles better than ours across the pitch.
We cannot play a midfield of 2 with Fernandes as we lose the midfield to teams that press well and time to rethink how we set up for teams.
Kobe had his worst game in a united shirt yesterday and Ugarte looked overwhelmed and back 4 had a mare all of them. Mazroui probably the best out of a very bad group. Liverpool game similar but nothing like yesterday.
If the idea is we can break their press, there are too many in this team who are not clinical enough with their passing and to make things worse they take on high risk passes in areas that cost you when you lose possession.
Really really disappointed and going to sit with me all week.
2.) 30 Sep 2024 07:22:20
So in essence Ahmad what you are saying is that its all the player's fault.
3.) 30 Sep 2024 08:02:26
Love it UA!
4.) 30 Sep 2024 08:06:07
We're just crap, accept it as it will make you feel better. Utds downfall over and over again is trying to play out from back. utd are useless at it, utd would be better with big sam in charge at least the ball would go forward. But it's the end for ten hag, I'm expecting a statement sometime today because this can't carry on. Utd will lose to villa. if Everton and Ipswich win utd are below them. let that sink in.
5.) 30 Sep 2024 08:22:35
It's all down to coaching a basic level of understanding the game will tell you that.
6.) 30 Sep 2024 08:14:59
sounds like he is saying its the players fault, however i'm sure all these players, possibly 90% which are ten hags choices, are being coached by him. Whether you like spurs tactics or not, their manager got them to adapt to his tactics within weeks, our manager is in his 3rd season and i have no clue what his way of playing is supposed to be and i suspect the players don't either. Winning and losing is part of football, i can take both, what i can't take is the way we lose with no plan, no heart from some and lack of identity.
sorry Eric, imo its time to step aside.
7.) 30 Sep 2024 09:13:06
I've defended this manager more than most and genuinely felt he deserved a proper go this season now that other elements have been sorted.
Still early days in the season, but what I saw yesterday was shocking, quite possibly the worst United display I've seen post-Fergie, which is saying something.
I was stunned that after 600m, this is what we have, and that into his third season, this 'transitional' team is probably playing worse than it was when he first joined. He sat there shaking his head throughout like the rest of us, like players are not doing what he wants.
I don't even know if what he's trying to communicate is the right thing, but to show him some respect, it obviously worked in his native tongue at Ajax to great effect. Something very basic is simply not clicking.
It seemed the only tactic was to punt it out right and try to put Garnacho through. There was zero invention throughout, whether 10 or 11 men. Countless misplaced passes, hitting the ball out.
He can keep saying the goal scoring is shared, but every side has a main man. We're screwed if Hojlund and Zirkzee are our options up top. Toney wasn't the right man either, but someone else needs to be on the Xmas shopping list.
8.) 30 Sep 2024 09:40:38
Sheesh, Ahmad don't let it ruin your weekend or week. It's just football, mate. This team could ruin your life otherwise.
9.) 30 Sep 2024 10:07:02
What you do without the ball is just as important as what you do with it. These guys look like they have lost that ability.
Let’s not kid ourselves, these players are not bad players. They don’t need time to adapt to play without the ball. They need very little time to adapt with it at their level! Those are just rubbish excuses.
We should not be starting every season from scratch.
We are well into the season. Clock’s ticking Erik How much more time do you need?
15 Sep 2024 14:12:55
Am I the only person who thinks that Dalot is a liability? His defensive abilities are truly limited and suspect, which is pretty much disastrous for a defender.
1.) 15 Sep 2024 14:28:48
He's a lot better than people give him credit for. Versus Southampton was just a bad day but you have to remember he's having to play out of position. Still got an assist mind you. And he was our best and most consistent player last season.
2.) 15 Sep 2024 14:27:51
Nope u aren’t. Massively overrated for me. Decent going forward but a massive problem defensively. IF shaw is fit then I don’t see Dalot starting as mazroui has been solid so far.
3.) 15 Sep 2024 14:57:53
He’s also got zero support from the player in front of him.
4.) 15 Sep 2024 14:59:57
He's not a left back, so yes he is a liability there.
He isn't great as a right back, better going forward then defending and better than he is on the left.
Mazroui was signed for a reason, and i rather fancy he is seen as an upgrade on Dalot overall and for me he is the starter now.
However, I have to say its a modern trend in football, full backs who aren't good defenders but good going forward.
5.) 15 Sep 2024 15:08:33
I think it might just be a simple case of contrast.
I mean, last year, we had a defensive injury crisis that essentially drew the focus to those who weren't playing - Shaw, Martinez and, to a lesser extent, Malacia.
We also had the constant rumblings about the discontent felt by Messrs Wan-Bissaka, Varane, Maguire and Lindelof.
So, by contrast, Dalot, being fit and versatile, made much less news.
It could well be argued that he was our best defender last season, simply because he was fit and available.
Whereas, this season, there's much less news about injuries and/ or contract discontent amongst our defensive stable so, perhaps, the weaknesses (presumed or proven) of Dalot are a little more pertinent.
Here's an angle for you.
Last season, Dalot and Wan-Bissaka shared LB duties, but Martinez and Shaw were out.
The LCB role was taken up by one of Evans, Maguire, Lindelof and Kambwala - all 4 of them will carry the innate capacity to understand the frailties of a right-footed player playing in an unfamiliar left-sided position.
Martinez and Shaw have never been used as right-sided players, so they've never been able to develop any kind of understanding of how awkward it can be for a Dalot or Mazraoui on the left.
So, just maybe, it might simply be that the instinctively-different Martinez is playing his own natural game, without revisions, that doesn't particularly lend itself to the strengths of Dalot in an unfamiliar position.
As for him being a bad defender, no.
6.) 15 Sep 2024 15:44:02
We won 3-0, let's find a player to slaye, yay.
7.) 15 Sep 2024 16:40:23
Never rated Dalot, going forward he is ok, but defensively he is awful. I’m hoping that we replace Shaw and then use Mazraoui to replace Dalot at RB.
8.) 15 Sep 2024 16:44:03
He is right footed which means any player taking him on the outside is at an advantage. Last season he played reasonably well defensively at right back and offensively was even better. He is doing a job for the team and shouldn't be castigated when it's not his natural position.
9.) 15 Sep 2024 16:45:37
Not sure what anyone seen from Mazzaroui to think he is any better than Dalot as a defender…. Cos he a shiny new player everyone raving same as Ugarte, when in fact neither have pulled up any trees anywhere. I just hope one of them turns out good enough…but I have my doubts!
10.) 15 Sep 2024 17:59:38
Romanian maverick, your glass isn't even half full is it?
11.) 15 Sep 2024 18:02:41
The Romanian troll is back in action!
12.) 15 Sep 2024 18:35:55
I thought Dalot was let down and exposed by a lack of support by Rashford.
13.) 15 Sep 2024 18:37:05
Get back back under your bridge Romanian.
14.) 15 Sep 2024 22:45:26
Yes they are both useless because you’ve never seen them play well haha RM / Maze isn’t a united fan, maybe a troll, have you been in prison for a while RM? It’s been a few months.
15.) 16 Sep 2024 06:29:31
Dalot is very good player imo and from what you hear a top pro. All defenders make mistakes especially when they are played out of position. He had a difficult time with the right winger on Saturday. Move on.
Any injury updates that's real and not rumours. Martinez, Maguire, Mazroui, Lindelof.
Watched arsenal yesterday and one injury and a suspension to a couple of key players and they parked the bus, sat deep and played on the counter. Spurs had 65% possession. Poor game to watch and both sides did not do much but a set piece goal.
NC with no European football will be around top 5 this year imo if they can keep away from major injury issues. Two great goals from them.
Everton having sold Onana look like they will concede goals all year.
Next 3 league games all going to be challenging. Palace away, spurs at home and villa away and European football in there too. Hoping we can pick up 7 points and we will be up and away. We owe palace one and some redemtion for the horror show last year.
16.) 16 Sep 2024 08:41:35
Dalot is talented but playing out of position, on his wrong foot. A full back needs support from the wide midfield player especially away from home and Rashford is poor at that. The question is why we are four games into a new season with the left back position still having problems after the same all last season.
17.) 16 Sep 2024 09:13:59
Dalot is a modern day full back in that they are comfortable on the ball, good engine up and down and good going forward. Unfortunately as we see with these the defensive side of the game is not as we used to see from full backs historically.
Adjusting from defending the right side to the left whilst it seems minor must take some getting used to. When you consider the muscle/ brain memory that he has to play instinctively, the way he runs, the angles he defends, the way he will push a player to the sideline etc We should expect some negaitives in his play.
I think Dalot is very good on the right and good on the left and this is why he is a better option than most other we have at the minute. He is also not getting much defensive support down that side from his wingers.
Hopefully we will get Shaw back soon and we can then rotate Dalot/ Mazouari on the fight.
18.) 16 Sep 2024 11:56:10
I wouldn't say he's a liability, not world class IMO but a solid option. I'd say personally I like what I've seen of Mazraoui and that he and Shaw should be the first choice fullbacks, but Dalot doesn't send shivers down my spine when he's in the team unlike a few.
19.) 16 Sep 2024 12:13:43
I'm with you spenno.
Not the worst not the best not very good at defending definitely not good at over lapping and crossing but that could be following instruction as our manager bloke asks the full backs to move into midfield. A tactic that has not worked very well at all.
Maz is a much better rb imo no comparison between the 2.
Shaw and malacia are better at lb than dalot also imo.
He is a 6 out of 10 most weeks with the odd 4 or 8 out of 10 thrown in.
Saturday was a 4 but we got away with it so no damage done.
06 Sep 2024 13:03:44
I think we could get more out of the 2 Brazilian players Casemiro and Antony. The two I think are being played out of position. Casemiro at this stage of his career appears to make a greater contribution further up the pitch and looks dangerous in and around the goal. Antony I feel is not really a winger - he has the skill but not the pace to outrun full backs. I would see him as more of a Number 10 because of the skill factor and his eye for goal. I understand that it would be difficult to accommodate both in the same team along with the likes of Fernandes, Mainoo and Ugarte.
I also feel that we should be playing 4-4-2. The 4-3-3 set up exposes Casemiro because pitches are so large, especially Old Trafford.
1.) 06 Sep 2024 14:21:41
They are definitely under perorming.
Anthony I don't see any hope for in the epl.
Casimero is just being over exposedimo.
2.) 06 Sep 2024 15:33:15
Nothing about Antony screams number 10 to me, left back at best.
3.) 06 Sep 2024 15:41:37
Jodler
The 4-4-2 formation is comparatively inflexible which is why it's now, rightly, seldom seen at elite levels. Modern football is all about smarts and athleticism mixed with tactical dynamism - 4-4-2 is, by it's nature, more zonal and rigid.
It would also mean one of Ugarte and Mainoo will have to make way for Casemiro - which one are you dropping?
As for Antony as a 10, no thank you. Yeah he can pass it and maybe dink it through the lines, but he's so desperately reliant on one foot that he'd be awful. I'd much prefer to see him at LB and I'd rather not see him there either.
4.) 06 Sep 2024 16:38:44
I don't feel that Casemiro and Antony should displace Ugarte and Mainoo but over the course of a season there will be occasions when they will be required to play. And I am not suggesting that we should play 4-4-2 rigidly every game. Flexiblity is required, with a savvy coach who intuitively knows how to adapt and when to change things during the course of a game. The point I was making about Casemiro is that he is neither fast nor is he athletic, so it is unrealistic to expect him to get up and down the pitch like a race horse at his age in a 3 man midfield.
5.) 06 Sep 2024 23:11:40
Antony is a defenders dream. No thanks. Move him on.
6.) 07 Sep 2024 11:10:51
I see Antony as a left back, as in left back in the changing rooms as he isn't good enough to be on the pitch.
He has ability, but seems completely unable to step up to the level of the EPL. The game is too quick and too powerful for him in England. Nothing wrong with that, many talented footballers have struggled here and failed to live up to expectations. Shevchenko probably stands out to me as one of the most obvious.
In the Eredivisie Antony was quicker than most of the defenders he came up against. That isn't the case in the EPL. While the game requires you to be more robust, with stronger tackles and physical contact being allowed in the EPL than in most other European leagues. Some thrive in the rough and tumble, while some wilt.
I think he'd be a good player in most other European leagues, especially German and Italy (of the top 5 leagues) in my opinion.
Unfortunately for us I think he's a busted flush who'll never be able to get to the level we need in the EPL no matter where we play him on the pitch.
If possible I'd like to see if we can find him a loan in January, and bring in a replacement. That way he has a chance of finding some form somewhere else and we might be able to find a buyer for him next summer.
11 Feb 2025 21:30:35
Players have a myopic view of life - their only concern is for themselves - their pay packet, how they play, how they are viewed. The players themselves got the team into this mess, not the managers. It’s not their job to decide how a team plays. They only want to play a style or formation that suits them as individuals. Get on with it or get out.
29 Jul 2024 23:43:31
He needs to leave because he is simply not good enough.
24 May 2024 07:19:32
Get rid. Overrated and not an elite player. Stands out in United because many other players are so poor. Would Guardiola play him? Not a chance. Simply not good enough. Poor passer and flaky.
03 Jan 2024 16:47:36
We spend a lot more on players than do Liverpool and Man City yet our players are inferior. I think poor recruitment has been our downfall. Yes, some players suit certain clubs. All the more important for us to pinpoint players with the right character as well as ability. How many of our players would go through a brick wall for the club?
03 Jan 2024 14:32:50
Every player purchased is a risk to some extent. United do not have a problem paying £80 million for a player who is barely worth a quarter of that figure. Why would they baulk at paying £10 to £15 million for a promising player who could be loaned back to the club? Money comes easy to United because of their popularity. They take huge hits on flops in terms of transfer fees and wages, but it doesn’t seem to bother them. I just wonder about some of our scouts. Neil Warnock revealed recently that he could have bought Van Dijk for £6 million but his own chief scout felt that he was too slow. We should have bought him. We were interested in him at the time but Southampton bought him. Could our scouts not have spotted his ability and his potential?
24 Feb 2025 15:55:19
I believe it was a penalty. Both De Ligt and Maguire had a tug at Young. Yes, he made a meal of it and maybe that had a major influence on the referee. It was a goal-scoring opportunity. Had the incident happened outside the box, he would have given a free kick. We got out of jail.
16 Feb 2025 19:12:08
Casemiro was not the only one who was poor today. I would love someone to tell me the value of Dalot. I have been following United since the sixties and I really believe that he is one of the worst players to have worn the shirt. He cannot defend, he rarely crosses the ball, and his passes are almost always backwards and sidewards. Opposing teams create their chances on the side he is playing. As a left back, admittedly out of position, he was woeful. As a right back, he is no better.
Fernandes was also very poor today. One or two decent crosses was all he contributed. In the first half he was so indisciplined, leaving a sluggish Casemiro to try and stem the tide in midfield.
31 Dec 2024 17:10:56
No matter how much effort the players put in, they are still inadequate. We need to understand that most are simply not good enough. With Amorim’s system, they are like ducks out of water. I’m all for going Amorim the time to build a team in his own image but some of his selections don’t make sense. Midfield was a shambles although it improved when Mainoo entered the fray. I will never understand how Dalot retains his place. He is simply ineffective. What I cannot understand above all is why, in spite of our awful performances, Amorim has not introduced one or two young players. Surely they could not be any worse. At the very least, they would bring an enthusiasm and energy to our play.
22 Dec 2024 21:11:37
We have to realise that many of our players are simply not good enough. They weren't good enough for Ten Haag and they certainly are not good enough for Amorim. I would keep only a handful of players from that team. Out with Dalot, Malacia, Fernandes (who simply doesn't know what discipline is), Garnacho, Zirkzee, Martinez, Maguire and Onana. They do not have the technical ability, tactical nous, athleticism, desire or football intelligence to be able to compete at the highest level. This is not just a reaction to today's performance.
11 Nov 2024 14:36:22
Dalot just not good enough for any role in the team. He makes too many mistakes and makes too many errant passes. Wing backs have to be able to defend as well and he has zero defensive awareness.