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25 Jan 2022 04:54:56
Martial leaves on loan to Sevilla till season end.

rohanarora8

1.) 25 Jan 2022 06:47:05
Good riddance to the lazy sulking tit.


2.) 25 Jan 2022 07:50:47
He's had a few good games but overall has been a disappointed after having a pretty good first season.
Whenever a new striker was signed he absolutely forgot to play.
Struggles when there is competition for places.
Sevilla would definitely get a very good player. Hopefully that means the likes of amad will get more mins till season end.


3.) 25 Jan 2022 08:25:28
Hopefully he plays really well and a few teams want to buy him.


4.) 25 Jan 2022 09:06:27
Mostly has himself to blame for lack of impact at United.

How often did he really skin a full back or a Centre half, rarely won headers . never really made dangerous runs, defenders didn't have to woryy about him ghosting in behind and as a defender you knew if you shut him out for 60 minutes his head would drop.

Decent player in there as we saw in flashes but very little desire or heart in him . I laughed when I saw him linked with Newcastle if he won't try for a team with aspirations to win the PL or even get in top 4 he isn't going to bother his ar*e in a relegation scrap in the cold north east.


5.) 25 Jan 2022 12:16:44
Martial co. plwtwly lacks any of the mental requirements of football, he does not like being a footballer and he really is not a very well developed adult or human being. Havibg him and Pogbae and Lingaard out of the dressing room will remove the bad attitude, deluded attitude (all talk no action) and maturity, Lingwood still acts like a 15 year old, some toxic interdependencies. For reference, look at Ozil (idle and attitude problem) and Aunameyang and Benguozi as the immature one, sold and frozen out and now allowing a coach to impose his values and behaviours on a dressing room that knows he is not messing about.

I do worry about whether Poccetino would impose the discipline this squad needs, I am hoping RR as Director of Football maintains that role, I am still a but unsure about Poccetino but then, I was wrong about Ole who role his own self I. posed rules whilst caretaker manager after 2 years in the job, so everything is a coin flip. Everyone rabbits on about Klopp and Guardioa know in satellite tones, but frankly Klopp was being mocked for being a serial laser of finals until the Champions League where they were somewhat lucky Tottenham blinked, and Guardioa was being reported as questionable as whilst he won the Title with Bayern he wasn't delivering the Champions League and he couldn't be seen as a great manager. That was 5 years ago now apparently they walk on water. The funny old game where people are 2020 hindsight magicians.


6.) 25 Jan 2022 13:29:44
difference with poch and the other managers cheshire is that they are actual managers with proper coaches. ole was not

look at spurs I would say they had discipline when poch was there, then Jose came in and it went to pot, now conte seems to be sorting that mess out.

i think with RR working in his role we will no longer see those types of players bought or kept on well past there sell by date.

any player with poor attitude just get rid.


7.) 25 Jan 2022 14:46:35
I would say if RR is in a consultancy role with a bit of clout then Poch or anyone else should do quite well.

Managers in recent times had no football minded allies in upper management, Poch having a problem with a player could result in having a chat with RR and deciding to get rid. as up til now why upset a player who has millions of Instagram followers or sells x amount shirts - or at least that's how it often looks.


8.) 25 Jan 2022 20:52:17
You may be right gents. I hope so.


 

 

09 Dec 2019 18:39:19
Someone on suggested that we sell Pogba to real Madrid for some money and ask for Martin odegaard in return.

Would you be open to that?
Odegaard is Norwegian and from what I've heard he's been carrying sociedad team.

I'm tired of Pogba
either being injured, posting useless posts saying they'll come back stronger, misplace 100s of passes, or his agent dropping stories of him leaving.

He hasn't worked out for quite a few years now, and maybe he is more suited to a league like Madrid and probably more happy with more money, better city and a paparazzi club.

I would love to take odegaard of Madrid's hands.

Ideally if we sign replacements and let Pogba, Matic, Mata, Jones, Rojo and Sanchez out and get 3-4 quality players with Smalling back in the squad it would help us a lot in terms of getting all the overpaid/ average lot out.

I would still keep Ashley young for 1 more season as he has a better fitness record than all of our fullbacks.
Plus he seems like a good professional who might have 1 last season left in him for 7-8 games in Europa league.
Shaw will stay because he's British.
Laird, Dalot more involved.

rohanarora8

{Ed002's Note - No that is not the plan.}


1.) 09 Dec 2019 19:23:42
To be honest I think Odegaard is why Madrid are backing away from Pogba. They have done good young talent at Madrid, a few out on loan. Maybe it'll end in tears because its Madrid but they do have some seriously good prospects.


2.) 09 Dec 2019 19:39:19
but does odegaard get shirt sales?


3.) 09 Dec 2019 19:23:17
Thanks Ed. could you tell us what's planned then? Appreciate as always.


4.) 09 Dec 2019 23:18:34
The plan is for them to offer us cash plus players bbs


The ed did a post not long ago


Off the top off my head it was kroos bale james isco.


Cant remember who else.


5.) 09 Dec 2019 23:30:13
Ed002 as i was reading down the OP
i was wondering)
1 if you would reply
2 how short the reply would be
3 would i laugh
2 outta 3 ain't bad.
On a serious note i think you have said there will be a bid from juve with players plus fee.
Do you think madrid will also bid in jan.
And do you know if united hold an interest in any of the players that may possibly be offered by either club?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a question, plain English works best.}


6.) 10 Dec 2019 09:43:35
I would personally steer clear of player like Odegaard, he has found his level at Sociedad, very similar to Zaha playing for Crystal Palace and doing just fine.

Pogba is a luxury that we cannot afford now, but saying he is all negative is a bit harsh. Without him we still lack any creativity in midfield which is evident when we play teams that sit back and defend, nobody knows if he really a bad influence in the dressing room or its just bad press majority of the time.

As for his injuries, it happens to all the players, what will you call Martial then?

{Ed047's Note - the problem with Pogba is he rarely shows up, maybe like Odegaard his true level is Italy or Spain and the Premier League is just too much for him.

You need a midfielder who turns up every game and given the opportunity I’d swap him out for any of City’s midfielders and most of Liverpool’s.

He really is a waste of a shirt for you guys. What will you honestly miss about him when he’s gone. He hung of better players coat tails in winning in Italy and for France.


7.) 10 Dec 2019 10:11:31
He is decent whenever he plays, inconsistent but he is the best creative midfielder we have. let's see how he does not when we have our fully functioning front 3.
13 goals 9 assists last season for a midfielder is just too good, dare someone says most of them were penalties as for UTD players even taking penalties is a huge task.
Also unless we have a very good replacement lined up i don't think we should get rid of him.


8.) 10 Dec 2019 10:48:20
becks you must see something i dont. i just see a half arsed player who thinks he is better than he is.


9.) 10 Dec 2019 11:37:30
That half arsed guy has been more creative than any other full arsed player tbh. But again if we get a quality replacement i am fine with him leaving. Madison being the first choice.


10.) 10 Dec 2019 14:05:07
Pretty sure half of pogba goals for us have been penalties last season.


11.) 10 Dec 2019 15:43:22
This is what happens when you skip a few posts.


12.) 10 Dec 2019 22:03:51
Red whiskey😂😂 quality.


13.) 12 Dec 2019 18:51:08
Odegaard hasn't been good since FM15.


 

 

11 Apr 2017 08:41:04
We've let a lot of decent players leave and replaced with lesser quality players. I think Zaha is a brilliant dribbler, a typical SAF winger, but is his crossing upto the mark?
Does he want to move again to United and play under Jose who doesn't play youth very much.
I think he'll leave for Spurs, Liverpool, City than us.

rohanarora8

1.) 11 Apr 2017 10:31:59
MOTD Fever, Rohan? Your first line reads "decent players leave and replaced with lesse quality" and then you add on to say Zaha. Is he really United standard? Here we are, talking of players like Sanchez/ Griezmann/ Belotti etc. Why would you want Zaha anywhere near the team?


2.) 11 Apr 2017 11:19:41
Yh zaha very inconsistent on his day he's unbelievable but nowhere near good enough.


3.) 11 Apr 2017 22:28:08
Zaha? Really? I'm speechless.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes talented eric, i know it never worked out for him at united but feel that was more to do with walloping moyes,s daughter than football ability mate.. :)


4.) 12 Apr 2017 12:24:11
I'm not saying per say we should sign him.


5.) 12 Apr 2017 23:28:27
Ha - good point Ed. There was always that rumour flying around.


 

 

17 Mar 2017 16:01:32
Youri Tielemans to play at OT.
Yes. Anderlecht vs United in the Europa league.
Ronnie must be the most pleased of all and finally we all posters get to see what the deal is about that guy.
PS Herrera in his post match said that Pogba wasn't that badly injured.

rohanarora8

 

 

14 Mar 2017 17:34:06
Looking at the last 16 and the possible 8, when we qualify for the quarter finals in the Europa league.
There aren't any clubs that strike fear and looks as favourites.
The only sides I see as threatening are Celta da Vigo, Lyon and Roma.
Celts because they have been terrific in cup competitions and knock Madrid out in 2 legs.

One of Lyon and Roma will progress and both of them are free scorers.
Nobody apart from that. I fancy us beating Besiktas, Anderlecht etc.
Personally I'd love a tie against Anderlecht and see wtf is Youri Tielemans about if we progress.

rohanarora8

1.) 15 Mar 2017 08:10:32
When? I wouldn't back us to beat anybody at the moment. I think "if" was the word you were looking for.


2.) 16 Mar 2017 22:23:16
I want Lyon or Schalke get them out of the way. I do not fear anyone in this competition. You have to beat the best to win!


 

 

 

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02 Aug 2022 14:21:45
Alex Telles to Sevilla on loan.
Super smart by the club.
We get no money and next year we have the same problem.
Super deal.

rohanarora8

1.) 02 Aug 2022 15:09:01
Alternatively we could have kept him at the club to be third choice and play maybe 3 games, while paying all of his wages and his value depreciates because he isn't playing.

If no one is prepared to buy him this summer, which is probably the case, then loan him out to a club where he'll play most weeks and hopefully impress. Then maybe next year someone will be willing to pay for him.


2.) 02 Aug 2022 16:25:32
Also need to stop giving silly wages to average players when you can't move them on when they turn out turd.
The likes of telles are probably earning the same as liverpools top 7 earners (not top 3).


3.) 02 Aug 2022 16:35:17
We did recently double Bruno's salary.
A couple of years down the line we will struggle to move him on.


4.) 02 Aug 2022 16:51:14
Bruno didn't deserve a new contract either.


5.) 02 Aug 2022 18:19:53
Rohana sometimes you just suck the fun/ nice out of everything. Your pessimism is becoming legend. Your business model seems to be sell/ sack/ shoot the entire playing staff and buy new. I suspect even if that fantasy football option were followed you’d complain about those that were bought in ?. Some of your options are totally unrealistic and frankly nonsensical. Peace and love ?.


6.) 02 Aug 2022 18:35:11
Thank God I'm not the only one fizz.
Read the live match posts.
Rohan is the king of knee jerk reactions.
Changes his mind more often than shappy???
Personally I think it comes from a lack of fundamental understanding of everything about football and football clubs. ?.


7.) 02 Aug 2022 18:42:01
Fizz, I simply do not care what opinion you have of me.

Our club is run like an amateur club, and I will not shy away from saying that. Or expressing my opinion if I think a players deserves to be benched or if I don't really trust Martial even if things are really rosy right now.

For a owners like ours that loves the money part and taking the dividend out, they are terrible with players values and dishing out huge wages. I don't think telles was an improvement for Brandon.

Apart from Pereira who was on low wages, we've not moved a single person. If Sevilla think Telles wages are 50k and we are paying 100k, and the transfer value is 12m, I would adjust the 50k salary for 2 years and let them have him on a permanent deal for 5m, basically covering the extra wages for 2-3 years.
Our solution to every fringe player is loan him. Bailly, Telles, Brandon, Dean Henderson etc.


8.) 02 Aug 2022 20:26:09
You know it ken ?.


9.) 02 Aug 2022 20:33:25
Rohan
Stop it. You run out the proverbial sound bites but talk computer games. You always rant and like ken says your live chat comments are often a lesson in comedy/ nausea. Perhaps you feel able to behave like that because, as you say, you don’t care about the opinions of others. You are very close to making a fool of yourself in that respect. But hey ho. Crack on fella. ?.


10.) 02 Aug 2022 22:49:10
Rohan. We have a new management team inc CEO, manager, coaches, scouts etc etc. This is their first season together. You have no basis upon which to criticize them yet. They have a lot of dross to clear out. Give them a break.

As far as Telles is concerned maybe no team is interested in a permanent transfer given how awful he was last season. Assuming Sevilla are at minimum paying his wages, it's a £5m reduction in payroll. It's better than a kick in the teeth.


 

 

01 Aug 2022 12:03:41
What are your thoughts of signing Edin Dzeko on a 1+1 (optional) yr deal.
He's already played in the PL for Man City.
His scoring looks very decent to me.
He's tall, and we seem to be linked with similar players like sasa or Sesko.
Inter signed Lukaku and they need so they would look to move Dzeko on.
He's 36, so time isn't on his side, could be a 200k/ week player.
But he's a proven goalscorer.
If Ronaldo leaves, he can be a starter, if Ronaldo stays he's our backup.
What are your thoughts? I personally don't think any good striker is available for the right price currently. A quick fix especially when we don't have a huge budget is something we should really look at.

rohanarora8

1.) 01 Aug 2022 12:17:09
I’d rather pay for Antony or Sesko and build for the future instead of these stop gap signings. Doubt Dzeko would want to join us anyway with his City connection. In fact I’d rather have Martial/ Rash until the right player comes along. Interstate Garnacho then too.


2.) 01 Aug 2022 13:09:05
WRD even if you get Antony or Sesko, we are still short. Really short.
For the front 3 you need atleast 6 players. All we have is Sancho, Martial and Rashford as certainties.
Ronaldo is the 4th which nobody knows what's going to happen with, I think he will get his way and leave.

Garnacho, Pellestri, Elanga and Amad, some may go on loan, they are kids and none of them are proven goalscorers.
Ideally we need 3 forwards (2 if Ronaldo stays) and I think we ain't getting that many.


3.) 01 Aug 2022 13:18:53
Surely we would just keep Ronaldo then?


4.) 01 Aug 2022 13:22:19
It (as would any similar deal) would stink of previous seasons, ie not being able to sign who we wanted with five minutes left in the window then grabbing a short-term fix at the death with everyone walking around high-fiving with grins on their faces.
Saying that, I always liked vintage Dzeko, decent player.


5.) 01 Aug 2022 13:32:38
I have lost hope on us doing a decent deal in the window.
He looks like the cheapest and best striker we could get who would settle instantly.
Inter have to sell.
The selling point for me is we are looking at very similar strikers like him.
Ronaldo staying or not is very uncertain.


6.) 01 Aug 2022 18:39:41
Alexis Sanchez is now available on a free. Shall we sign him too?


7.) 01 Aug 2022 21:54:13
TBF he was handy on the piano.


8.) 02 Aug 2022 08:12:56
No, he left City 3-4 years ago because he couldn't handle the pace of the EPL anymore. Went to probably the slowest league in Europe and prolonged his career.

Also we need to get away from this short term older striker signings. Owen, Falcao, Zlatan, Cavani, Ronaldo. All came to the club in either in their late 20's having had serious injury issues or in their mid thirties.

At best we have had 3 good season's from those 5 strikers out of the 9 season's they have played, and been paid handsomely, for the club.

Time to stop looking short term and look for a striker who can be a part of a winning side for 5-7 years.


 

 

30 Jul 2022 15:42:57
I only have one thing to shout.
Manchester United, sign some f***ing players.
We needed atleast 5-6 signings that will be part of the first XI.
So far only 3 have come in, Eriksen, Martinez and Malacia. I kind of think Eriksen as a player who free and a bonus and a player we wouldn't have signed if a fee needed to be paid.
Not considering the fact we lost a few players on free as well.
We need 2 players who come in and become first teamers. Ideally 3.
If Ronaldo leaves, we need 4, maybe 5 players then.

rohanarora8

1.) 30 Jul 2022 16:37:57
I know it's pre season but what I saw today. We did OK in the first half. Ran out of steam in the second half. A bit of a hangover from last year. Now Erik's on has quality in him. Can he do it for 90 mins all season no he needs help.

We started again with Fred mctom. Do we really need 2 dms starting
And we need another proper cb.

Martial no not for me. Rashford just doesn't have that football brain.

Can't see how others can't see it. And Ronaldo shouldn't start up front cause after the last few weeks he thinks he is bigger than the club
I'm happy with the manager and I hope he gets them few more players he needs cause he does need them.


2.) 30 Jul 2022 17:13:17
This is a process, no magic wand or quick fixes.

It will take time, time to train the players in the new managers methods.

Time for the players to be able to consistently do what the manager wants from them on the pitch.

Time to work out which players are capable of doing what the manager wants and to the level he needs, and which ones can't.

Time to turn over the squad.

Time to develop the young players capable of stepping up.

We were never going to go into this season with a squad of players who could consistently perform to the level we need in the manner the new manager wants.

There was always likely to be 3, 4 or 5 players starting in the first team because they are the best available but ultimately not good enough.

Likewise we were never going to have the squad depth capable of covering for the first 11 without a drop in the level of performance.

No matter who we sign, or how many players we sign this summer there was always still going to be weaknesses in the squad.

The most important thing to remember is this group of players aren't as bad as they performed last year.

They might not be world class, but they are more than capable of playing much better than they did last season.

We have hired a proper coach, someone who works with players to get the most out of them and improve them.

If EtH can get a third of our squad playing at the peak of their ability, another third to become better players, and is completely unable to get any real improvement from the remaining third then he'll have two thirds of the squad playing better than they were last year. Add a few signings to that and he probably has enough to challenge for a top 4 spot.

No doubt we'll see 2 more signings this summer. Malacia looks like he could be a key player for how EtH wants to play. Erkisen in his cameos suggests that he will be able to be a very good player for us. Martinez I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Add two more to them three, plus a return of Rashford, Martial and Bruno to their top form, Sancho putting in performances similar to what he did at Dortmund. Suddenly we look like we have a first 11 capable of beating most teams on their day.


3.) 30 Jul 2022 17:46:00
Shappy. Time. How much more time does maguire lindelof. Martial. Rashford. Fred. Mctominay I could go on. There time must be up by now. They aren't going to improve.
Ti's a new manager we have not a magician.
I know we can't get rid of them all in one window there's no excuses left for them.
A club like Manchester uniteds size. should be winning trophies not there to make up the numbers
And with them players that aren't good enough nd don't have the right attitude your winning nothing.

{Ed014's Note - I can’t believe he even posted that shite, oh wait….


4.) 30 Jul 2022 17:55:40
But if we dispose of those players Leahy we are looking at a level of investment that is simply not available at the club. So we need EtH to work some magic, find a few youth gems, help a few who we have given up on find some sort of form.


5.) 30 Jul 2022 18:06:57
Lots of ifs in the last para there Shappy. Waiting on return to form of Rashford has been going on for 2 years, Martial the less we speak the better, Bruno has lost his midas touch from when he came in. We need signings and not just any.


6.) 30 Jul 2022 18:47:47
I think you'll need a magic spell to turn donkeys into horses.
Eriksen didn't need coddling up and time to settle in. He put in a delicious corner which Maguire flunked unmarked. He put in a cross from the left side that Ronaldo or any other decent striker would have buried. When he got on the ball making long, short pass or a cross seemed possible.
The only people to have actually up a level are fred and Dalot. They were improved under Ralf and they are improved under ETH.
Martial looks better too, but he never was the answer and never will be. He is not a I will score goals striker by throwing any part of the body like chicharito type striker. Never will be.
Maybe we'll win a few games start of the season, but fixture congestion and lack of depth and I worry.
We need to replace Greenwood we haven't, no replacement for Cavani we are worse than we were last year in terms of squad and numbers.


7.) 30 Jul 2022 18:59:38
As I have repeatedly said, the window has been very average, if we don't get a decent striker, we'll not be winning anything and 6th is the best we'll do.


8.) 30 Jul 2022 20:42:12
I don't disagree with the amount of change required. I think people need to realise that it will not all happen in next few weeks.

For me every player gets a fresh start and we back the manager through what is likely to be a patchy season.

It is not even end of preseason, give him and the players a chance.
There is no chance that all the poor players from last season can be replaced. We would only have about 5 first team squad players left. Including new signings.

I'm confident that EtH will quickly sort the wheat from the chaff and we will fix our issues over a few windows.


9.) 30 Jul 2022 21:12:29
Why do these same set of failures deserve even more time Shappy? They'd be dragged out a long time ago at clubs like Madrid yet we should put up with it?


10.) 30 Jul 2022 23:12:45
I think most of us agree that there is no quick fix and that we have too many players who are not good enough and never will be. The very best players are not going to come to Utd right now with other clubs far more attractive. So we just have to be realistic patient and allow ETH the time he needs to get things right.

As long as the players try their hardest and show respect for the club and the fans and if we can fight in every match right til the end then that's progress. In two or three transfer windows time we will be in a better position to judge ETH always provided the club back him financially.


11.) 31 Jul 2022 10:22:02
Scholes, What did you expect? The club to release or sell 24 players and buy an entire new 25 man squad?

Over a three year period Pep and Klopp moved on around 20 players each at City and Liverpool to rebuild their squads.

They didn't do it in one window. Maybe we can do something similar, but that is a three year project. There will be players currently in the squad who'll still be here in three years time.

Also there is an argument that none of these players have been properly coached and developed as players for 3-4 years, in some cases longer.

Lets see what a top class coach can do, maybe a few will surprise us.

{Ed014's Note - this literally happens every year, start a season saying how good you’re going to be, finish that season saying how poor your squad is.

Start another new season saying how all those poor players may come good again.

Rinse and repeat.


12.) 31 Jul 2022 10:53:50
Ed014, I'm not saying we have a great side, merely that many of these players are capable of playing better than they did last season. Last season was an all time low, achieving 54 points, yet the same group of players managed 74 points the season before that. So let's not pretend its a squad full of relegation level players.

This group of players are no where near good enough to be challenging City and Liverpool for the league.

Yet for me the difference between Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and United isn't huge and to be honest most of those with a manager like Pep or Klopp would finish 3rd even with the squads they have currently. I really don't think there is much between the squads and its the managers that will make the biggest difference. all those squads have their own weaknesses that will stop them from challenging City and Liverpool.

Where they finish will be a combination of how the managers get the best out of their squad, over come the weaknesses in it and a bit of luck in terms of injuries and suspensions.

United's squad needs rebuilding without a shadow of a doubt, we need to mould it to fit what the new manager wants from his players. Many of the current squad will eventually leave as they aren't good enough to challenge for the title.

But that won't happen this year, its a 2-3 year rebuild before we we could be in a position to challenge for the title.

{Ed014's Note - not suggesting they’re relegation level but 74pts in comparison to 95+pts is a long way off as you agree.

Managers will of course make a difference and Conte is a big plus for Spurs aside from their squad isn’t yet that great and again Kane and Son a massive plus for them.

Chelsea for me still lacking on a fair few fronts and I’m still nowhere near convinced by Tuchel.

I like the way our squad is developing and they have another years experience as does Arteta.

I think you have the worst squad of the top 6 but potentially a very good manager which if it goes well will work in your favour, it’s how your mentally fragile squad hold up when it matters.

That is also something that the experience from last year will help us as that’s also a potential Achilles heal for us.

Agree on the length of your rebuild as a genuine starting 11 is still needed.


13.) 31 Jul 2022 11:53:00
Shappy, I think the 2-3 year build will only work if the club backs the manager. We still have 5-6 players that are Championship level at best.

Why haven't Jones, Bailly, Telles, AWB been moved on? The reason is because the owners don't have tge mentality or the will to release or sell them on the cheap.

Until the owners are fully on board on the footballing side, we'll be also-rans.

Ps. I'm not a subscriber to the theory of a 3 year rebuild. We've been "rebuilding" since SAF left. We don't have the luxury of time. Sheringham wrote recently that if the club had "real" ambition, then Kane and Rice will be playing for us.

Sadly, our owners don't have the resources to improve the squad or facilities. There focus is on drawing dividends and improving their US franchises and investments.


14.) 31 Jul 2022 12:39:34
AAA, which players are championship level "at best"?

I agree that we have many players who aren't good enough to be challenging for titles.

But I'd argue that every one of our players would comfortably be able to play for an EPL team and do well for them. Even if that was a team in the bottom half of the league.

As for why haven't certain players left yet? Could be for any one of many reasons.

Maybe the player hasn't had an offer they are happy to accept. Or it could be the club haven't had an offer they are willing to accept or even any offers at all.

You slate our players as crap and not even championship level, then bemoan and wonder why no one is willing to pay good money and massive wages for these crap players.

Three years is about how long it will take IF the club make mostly the right moves, bring in the right players, move on the right ones etc. It also depends on the manager succeeding in his remit.

Previous managers failed and thus the length of time the rebuild is taking has dragged on.

As for signing Kane and Rice, first off neither are for sale and would require bids north of £150m each to even tempt Spurs and West Ham. Which is frankly ridiculous.

While neither player probably wants to move to United currently.


15.) 31 Jul 2022 23:16:53
When ETH came in, everyone on here said realistically, it'll take 2, 3 or 4 windows before we're competing. As long as we played well and showed progress, most of us would be happy. Now, after one window, people are waving the white hankies. Short memories.


 

 

17 Jul 2022 13:28:52
Is it just me or are you guys worried about the GK situation?

DDG is 31 and all his life he's never done the sweeper role. In general he's been a very fit guy who barely misses games.

And now suddenly he's been asked to do more than what he's used to, which to me makes him much more prone to injuries than before. Preseason he did get a knock. It's crucial for us to have a keeper capable of playing high and DDG did show good glimpses but I predict him to get more niggles than usual.

Second GK is Heaton, who for a backup I feel is pretty good. But I don't think he's the sweeper keeper material and age is not on his side. Just checked he's had 2 big year ending injuries before too, so not the fittest around.

I have no idea about our U23 keepers but a step up to PL will be hard for any of those guys if they have to play and none of them have even got a single min on the tour.

Yes we need reinforcements everywhere but we should look to get 1 experienced GK in before the window ends.

I see 3 decent GKs available on a free Ben Foster, Romero and Joel Robles. Googling a bit and Robles had a salary of 12k/ week while the other 2 were around 30k/ week. Robles was a regular for Everton and Wigan too.

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{Ed014's Note - from what I’ve been reading you guys are worried about every position.


1.) 17 Jul 2022 14:13:51
You more so no.14 ?.

{Ed014's Note - I am worried about you boys mate, I’m not looking forward to the moaning if you don’t replace every player and end up 8th.

You’ve got some much crap to get rid of still.


2.) 17 Jul 2022 15:03:45
Not particularly, EtH seems to have chosen DDG as his first choice.

We'll find out over the course of the season whether he can match the demands the manager will put on him.

The main demands the manager will place on him that he hasn't had previously are to sweep up and to play out from the back. With good coaching and a committed attitude there is no reason why DDG can't improve these areas of his game. If he doesn't then maybe EtH will look for a new keeper next summer. For this reason it's interesting that Henderson has only left on loan again and not permanently. Maybe the manager will keep an eye on how he does at Forest.

As for back up, we have Heaton, Bishop and Kovar all of whom are on the preseason tour.

Maybe it'd be more comfortable to have a higher class back up option. Yet how often over the past 10 years have we NEEDED our back up keeper?

Maybe a few games a season at most on average. Do we need a better keeper than Heaton for that? Probably not.


3.) 17 Jul 2022 16:25:50
Ed014, we surely do. Another striker is badly needed, I think this is about the 5th time I'm hearing about another chance for Martial lol.

However, we do have a good coach, and it's looking positive.

{Ed014's Note - that’s the big plus mate, if he can pull them all together it’ll be a great start.


4.) 17 Jul 2022 16:14:54
Failure to prepare then prepare to fail.

The OP makes a fair point. We are light in the goalkeeping department. We do have more pressing priorities though. I’d like to think they are working on a free option. It’s not just for playing purposes, it’s for training as well as you need a decent bunch of keepers for drills etc.


5.) 17 Jul 2022 18:55:32
The reality is that we will go into this season without a top class first 11 and adequate cover in all areas of the pitch.

We can't sign players for every position.

Will we get a RB? A winger? A GK? A ST?

Probably not, so we will need to prioritise.


6.) 17 Jul 2022 19:36:10
You don’t say…….


7.) 17 Jul 2022 23:10:02
014 has made no secret of how little he thinks of our squad. And to a big extent I'd happily eat humble pie and agree. But there's remnants and promising youth that ten hag can begin to work with for sure. What I would like to ask 014 is, do you think given time and backing ten hag can turn us round like I do?

{Ed014's Note - if you watched Ajax play then it’s obvious he knows how to play the game.

Albeit the Dutch league is ranked 7th they still played some quality stuff in the Champions League. Hasenhuttl came with a similar rep from the German league, obviously to a much smaller club.

The quality of squad he’s inherited is obviously a snag and it’s not been difficult to get in better quality.

The Premier league is a big step and he’ll need to make some big changes in mindset and work ethic right off the bat.

I’d be amazed if you made top four this season but it would be a great achievement if he did as you’re in four comps too.

On your last point though, yes I think he can. He’s the best you’ve had since Fergie left.


8.) 18 Jul 2022 09:27:59
Come on Ed014, he has potential but is unproven in any decent league.
To say he is better than JM, LVG and maybe even DM is optimistic. I will agree he is better than OGS however.

{Ed014's Note - which one of those had United playing the kind of football Ajax did in the Champions League.

He knows how to play the game, yes it’s a step up and no it’s not going to be easy but I’ll say again, where United want to go, he’s the best they’ve had since Fergie left.

Don’t kid yourself that JM wasn’t a busted flush albeit he was honest about the players, DM utter shite and LVG another past his sell by date.

My dog would have been better than OGS and I don’t even have a dog!


 

 

12 Jul 2022 22:42:10
I fail to understand how Maguire can play in such a high backline with zero recovery pace.
Varane and Lindelof are not the quickest around but definitely not the slowest. Tuanzebe and Bailly are in the same category.
I think even Jones is quicker than Harry Maguire.
I predict a certain benchwarmer status for Maguire, which would not please me personally but a lot of supports.
I see no way how Maguire plays in a back 2 with this system, he is going to get caught out.

It could be my gut feeling, but ETH is really smart. One of the first things he's done is move Sancho to RW and suddenly the cry for having a first choice RW is solved. He played better than anyone has at RW for a long while.
So continuing I think Martinez is going to be the holding midfielder for us. As in his system the holding midfielder keeps dropping deep anyway and Martinez not being the tallest, this is something which I feel would happen but I could be wrong. The shortest defender I remember seeing in PL was Gallas and even he was taller than than Martinez.

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1.) 13 Jul 2022 01:44:22
Gallas wasn't too shabby, no? Was in the top draw of defenders of his time.


2.) 13 Jul 2022 06:55:21
We'll see what happens with Maguire over the course of the season, same with every other member of the squad. They'll be given chances to play in the manner the manager wants, if they seize those chances and do well then they will likely keep their place, if not then they'll likely be dropped.

Where will Martinez play? I suspect at CB. EtH likes his CB's to pull wide and therefore need to be comfortable playing in the wider areas.

At Ajax Martinez was signed as a midfielder by EtH, he then ended up playing him at CB. So I doubt he'd do the reverse when signing him for United.

Height isn't everything, and with the game evolving and changing aerial dominance is becoming less important. In 20 years times don't be surprised if heading is banned in the game.


3.) 13 Jul 2022 10:25:59
In 20 years time Martinez will be in his 40s though so we still do need to head it at the moment.


4.) 13 Jul 2022 10:42:21
Maguire is a millstone hanging round our necks.


 

 

 

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07 Aug 2022 12:24:01
He has just one goal less than Osimhem.

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04 Aug 2022 10:10:35
I don't think it will be a bad signing.
You look at the stats, Ziyech and Antony look similar. 29 is not old.
Also if ETH thinks he will play well, let's get him.
Abraham and Tomori improved when they left Chelsea.
If ETH wants Ziyech, I hope the board are not against it. ETH needs to be backed.

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28 Jul 2022 18:34:26
Let's get Ruiz and forget about FDJ. He can stay at Barcelona and be their GK. I really don't care. His wages are astronomical too.

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08 Jul 2022 09:53:31
Hope we put in some clause for him.
I don't see why we don't do buyback clause at like 20m.
I see Chelsea do it all the time.

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03 Aug 2022 23:26:04
I was super happy to see Garnacho and Iqbal. I thought also Laird did well. I'm not sure if I would have seen this much of them under previous managers.

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03 Aug 2022 05:39:08
Think he's better than what we was when he left.
Since it's a free signing for a a very decent player who can cover 2 positions.
I don't think Man Utd will go for him, and seems more like a Juventus type signing.
Also no idea if Depay wants to come and stay backup to martial and Rashford again.

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02 Aug 2022 18:42:01
Fizz, I simply do not care what opinion you have of me.

Our club is run like an amateur club, and I will not shy away from saying that. Or expressing my opinion if I think a players deserves to be benched or if I don't really trust Martial even if things are really rosy right now.

For a owners like ours that loves the money part and taking the dividend out, they are terrible with players values and dishing out huge wages. I don't think telles was an improvement for Brandon.

Apart from Pereira who was on low wages, we've not moved a single person. If Sevilla think Telles wages are 50k and we are paying 100k, and the transfer value is 12m, I would adjust the 50k salary for 2 years and let them have him on a permanent deal for 5m, basically covering the extra wages for 2-3 years.
Our solution to every fringe player is loan him. Bailly, Telles, Brandon, Dean Henderson etc.

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02 Aug 2022 16:35:17
We did recently double Bruno's salary.
A couple of years down the line we will struggle to move him on.

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02 Aug 2022 13:22:20
Salzburg have been producing very good players for a while now.
Although best case he's a backup option.
You can't throw a kid as the central striker for United and expect it to perform.
Quality aside, it's a very hard job.

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