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Team: Manchester United

Where from: Manchester

Favourite player: Eric the King

Best team moment: Is there any other?...."and Solskaer has won it!"

Interests: Football Boxing Business Travel Martial arts Tai Chi Qi Gong

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10 Jun 2017 21:09:28
Utd official account just announced Lindelof signing for £35m, deal to be completed next week after medical.


1.) 10 Jun 2017 22:39:13
Hopefully followed by morata and it would be a good start to the window!




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19 Jan 2020 23:10:45
Totally disagree with the comments regarding Fernandes. Time to stop being held to ransom by deluded and greedy selling clubs.

Sports have to raise £40m, that's a matter of fact. They're in desperate financial trouble and abusing UTDs interest and current position.

Very glad we haven't caved and expect us to walk away if the stand off continues. Its were drawn into negotiations by sporting at around £50m plus add ons then started taking the piss.

Sick of seeing them flagged off no matter what approach they take.

As for the fans on here. I would want you to be fans of mine. None of you have any trust or loyalty. No patience or empathy. You slagged them off when there was no long term plan. Now they're getting lambasted for having one, by Ed's as well as posters. Try being positive and supportive of people with plans and see what results they get before you share your 'expert's opinions.


1.) 19 Jan 2020 23:31:01
I agree you can't have it both ways, if you were complaining about the club paying preposterous money for players then this change of tact to not be held to ransom is fair enough.

The things that worries me more is that the club leaked last summer that they didn't want bruno fernandes because he gave the ball away too much.

What has changed in six months? Has he completely changed his game? I doubt that. Are we more comfortable having players who give the ball away a lot? I doubt. It just signals more random decision making from the club.

2.) 19 Jan 2020 23:33:20
That's interesting post Cheshire but completely laughable and without base or fact. So, as ed02 mentioned, the club asked for a certain price, we've gone in with a lower price. So that's business, they know we want him, we know we need him, and eventually we'll all settle on a price that's acceptable. That's business.
What long term plan did we have when Fergie retired? What plan do we have now to improve OT, Carrington, or genuinely improve the playing staff. What plan have we got to appoint a Dof, when it's been blatantly obvious that we've needed one for years.
What plan did we have when we destroyed our pay structure by offering Mr Sanchez £500k a week? Or spending silly money on Pogba, di Maria, when their hearts were clearly not at United.
What plan did we have when we allowed City to buy Aguero and Silva while we sat there doing nothing and fergie telling us "there's no value in the market".
Do me a favour, if people can't see what's been going on for the past 10 years, then we might as well give up.

3.) 19 Jan 2020 23:37:04
tell us o mighty one what plan do you see. seven years down the line and we are still no better . probably worse. so sporting should bow down because we are supposedly a bigger ciub and loose there best player. get real it is not fifa or whatever game you play on your ps4.

4.) 19 Jan 2020 23:58:06
Other clubs manage to get deals across the line without overspending. Additionally they seem to target attainable players which they can get across the line.

Uniteds new transfer policy is target plan A and if he isn't available so there is no value in the market. It's a ridiculous transfer policy as the club have got rid of fellaini, sanchez, Lukaku and Herrera without replacing them.

Numerous times the board has sold Solsjkaer down the river (I'm not his biggest fan btw but think he's been given a rough ride with this board) . They said they eouldnt get rid of Lukaku without a replacement, then there was no value in the market. They said they wouldn't sell ashley young as that would make the squad weaker and they want to get stronger. Both went, no replacements in.

Our forward line consists of rashford, martial, james and greenwood. One injury and they have no rotation. We knew that at the start of the year and did nothing about it.

Dont try justify board actions as supporting the club, they have been inept and left the squad in a mess. The club hasn't had a right winger in three seasons, the DOF promised 2 years ago is still yet to arrive and now in the last 3 transfer windows the club has brought in 3 players whilst getting rid of young, smalling, fellaini, Herrera and Sanchezjust off the top of my head.

5.) 20 Jan 2020 00:08:00
Oh man give it a rest, who are we just to turn up and demand a player for less than what the clubs value. Get real.

Put the money on the wood or shut up, all this posturing is embarrassing. The up to date time table of events has to stop.

Business needs to be done behind closed doors quietly, then the same scenarios don't keep getting played out over and over.

6.) 20 Jan 2020 00:29:43
as regards sporting taking the piss. if you looked on the rumours page ed02 tells you what is going on.

7.) 20 Jan 2020 08:55:30
I must admitt there's something about the Fernandes negotiations I don't understand.

If we paid £80mill for Maguire, £45 mill for AWB and £50 Mill for Fred, why o why is the club bulking at paying £60-£70 mill for Fernandes if he's exactly what we need?

For a 25 year old, top quality midfielder that sounds like a reasonable price. If Utd value him at just £40-£50 Mill then he can't be that good so why are we interested?

I imagine utd would want £75 mill + for Pogba and he's rubbish so what's the problem for paying the going rate for his replacement who would hopefully be an upgrade?



Jose Mourinho Needs More Time to get Manchester United Back to the Top

19 Mar 2018 17:34:22
{Ed's Note - CheshireRed has posted a new article entitled, Jose Mourinho Needs More Time to get Manchester United Back to the Top


1.) 19 Mar 2018 18:18:23
Cheshire not sure if you have posted before or post regularly but i would recommend posting more often because that was a very good read. Well balanced and thought out and has brought a nice fresh perspective so fair play mate.

I am only 23 so all i have known is the Sir Alex glory days. I am part of generation that has only known success. I grew up watching some amazing teams and not having anything really to compare it too. Sure my old man and grandfather would tell me and show me clips of greats such as Best, Charlton, Robson. But i never lived through or got to experience the pre glory days. So I really appreciate listening to posts from those who have lived through the times where United where not the brand they are today.

I will be the first to admit at times I can be very reactionary and impatient as for me United have always won. Second place is unacceptable and so the last 5 years have been a really hard watch for me. My old man and grandad, although unhappy with the current predicament, are much more objective and patient with the current process. They've have seen the rebuilds and understand that it does not happen over night.

Whilst I agree that the debacle under moyes and LVG has set us back years, I do think Jose really should be doing better with the squad at his disposal. The defence is poor but the attack is full of talented players. In this case, he should be playing to our strengths and that is what i think is frustrating the fans on here. I am prepared to give jose another year to really challenge for the title. He needs to remove the lazy, weak minded and soft players who do not have what it takes to wear the united shirt. Sometimes tough love is the best form of medicine and players like shaw have had their chances. Very talented but the guy cannot even keep in shape. However, next year their is no excuses.

I think the manager after jose will really reap the rewards of this squad. A jardim, tuchel or poch would be a very shrewd and exciting appointment to kick off the next stage of this post Fergie era/ nightmare (however you want to describe it) . I think things are not as bad as they seem but jose needs to respect the values and traditions of this club. I am just not sure he has or does.

2.) 19 Mar 2018 18:42:01
Top class post cheshire red. I agree with all of that. The board need to remain strong and ignore the hyberbole nonsense emanating from tje press and the sheep who follow their sensationalism. Jose is marmite so will always have his detrators i was one when he managed chelsea. But he is our manager now and has full support. With him at tje helm just now the club could not be in better hands. He knows what he is doing imo.

3.) 19 Mar 2018 19:05:22
Good read that. Jose knows what is needed he will get it right. 😆😆.

4.) 19 Mar 2018 19:06:56
Agreed Cheshire he definitely needs time, as he doesn’t have inifinite resources at his disposal. I think if we look at Chelsea’s model of managerial employment we can see the lack of stability and that it only breeds short burst of success, whereas we desire a dynasty similar to that of SAF.

5.) 19 Mar 2018 19:17:55
That's a brilliant post CheshireRed.

We must learn the lessons of the past, shown patience and understanding and maybe more than anything place our trust and faith in a proven winner.

6.) 19 Mar 2018 19:22:50
People need to remember we are not going to get another fergy.

{Ed025's Note - no ones saying you are jred, but selling your soul to the devil is not a great idea either mate..

7.) 19 Mar 2018 19:29:42
Devil's advocate which other top teams would.

Would Madrid Barcelona Munich .
Munich get a lot of plaudits for being a well run club they sacked ancelotti less that 18 months into the job after they got beat by PSG in the group stages . He had would the league the previous season.

8.) 19 Mar 2018 19:33:42
We are not going to get an other fergy or a manager that will build a fergy type dynasty like mentioned above .
I also think there is no comparison between the club fergy took over and the club Jose has .

{Ed025's Note - your right jred this is nothing like any side that SAF had anything to do with mate...unfortunately..

9.) 19 Mar 2018 20:27:47
Good post Cheshire but I have to take issue with “it took SAF 7 years”. History is often rewritten but as someone who was going to every game I’d like to revisit your recollection. SAF took over in ‘86 and hauled us out of trouble that year. He then finished runners up the year after but realised there was something rotten that needed to be adddressed. We then had 2 dire seasons with some dodgy signings and the humiliation at Maine Rd. 1990 was the turning point and we started improving with the FA Cup win albeit the football was still patchy. We then won the Cup Wnners Cup in ‘91, the League Cup in ‘92 as well as finishing runners up in the League before finally selling the deal in ‘93. We played to win, with Wallace, then Sharpe, then Kanchelskis, then Giggs. It may have taken until ‘93 to win the League but it was a great ride from 1990 onwards. As you say SAF was a proven winner but I would argue he was still at the start of his career back then. Let’s also remember that after winning nothing in ‘95 some fans wanted him sacked, this after having done the double in ‘94 so fans were as fickle back then as they are now.

And so to Jose. It seems there are issues to address within the club and he is clearly tough enough to do that but to compare now to 1986 doesn’t wash for me. We were the archetypal sleeping giant back then whereas we are now a top team even if we do need some rebuilding. The main difference for me is that SAF was all about the team, Jose is all about Jose.

It boils down to this. Do you believe Jose is still a top coach who can build a team to challenge, or do you think he has lost his way and is behaving erratically? Do you believe we should be seeing more from the players we have or that they are paying to their maximum ability. Do you believe the constant public humiliation of a young player is justified, or bullying?

You pays your money, you makes your choice.

{Ed025's Note - fine post that AJH mate..

10.) 19 Mar 2018 20:40:27
That’s a great post AJH. I think I have to side with the view that Jose is too erratic and has lost his way. Football has moved on and he doesn’t seem to understand or be willing to adapt and change with times. If that is the case then he might get another year but I don’t expect it to a joyous or successful one.

11.) 19 Mar 2018 21:46:26
Very nice post Cheshire red. really enjoyed that. A bit of perspective. Again i'd also like to point to andy mittens most recent article where he also brings a lot of perspective.

We have to give this time and let Jose see this through. I do feel we will get there but there will be many splits, fights, opinions along the way.

12.) 19 Mar 2018 21:59:14
Good post, Tony. Unfortunately José, with his unforgiveable press-conference, seems to have convinced some fans that we are indeed a small club who are lucky to have him, rather than the other way round.

13.) 20 Mar 2018 00:53:07
Angel I’m a massive fan of Andy mitten he is one of my favourite journalists. Always puts things into perspective when emotions get the better of me.



12 Feb 2018 20:11:23
I see Leroy Sane has made an amazing and spectacular recovery 5 weeks early. as predicted by various observers here at the time of Peps amazing doctors and their 'speedy cures!

He's in the wrong career that boy. medical genius.


1.) 12 Feb 2018 21:21:37
Wonder if Dr Cugat will get a PL winners medal.

2.) 13 Feb 2018 10:12:04
Protein shakes do work well.



22 Aug 2017 22:05:54
Neymar deal comments miss the mark. You have to consider the accountibg principals a club applies to an asset. For example the club can choose to write down their acquired asset over the period of contract (5 or 6 years in Neymars case) and with increased sales income (which can be brought forward, ) image rights applied to sponsorship deals offsetting costs such as being an ambassador for the world cup Qatar host in 2022 and the promotional lead up years plus taking large wages like zlaran off their books and moving other players on it really isn't that hard for a CFO or the Head of Legal to construct a way of complying with principals that do allow a club to make a specific maximum loss over a 3 year period.


1.) 23 Aug 2017 09:19:37
I don't think write downs count for FFP. In simple terms did they spend x% more than they generated in a 3 year period. The fee for Neymar is almost £200M and it looks like Mbappe might be the same. There is no creative accounting that allows PSG to generate income to cover those numbers. They will either have to sell loads of players (doubtful) or accept whatever punishment comes - usually a fine which for them is not an issue.

2.) 25 Aug 2017 07:27:57
Ive posted an explanation of how clubs accoubt for FFP on youtube. Have a look and it may aimplify it. You can dobwhatever you loke as a business as long as you comply with legislation. I run sevwral businesses and we operate similar principles on tax and finance. Even easier if all your assets are governmwnt owned as arw the Qataris. I work wirh the soverign wealth funds a lot. Its srandard practice in middle east to subsidise and grow assets. Its practically their entire business model across the board, not just in sport.



17 Jun 2017 03:14:05
Hi All

Just my opinion on De Gea.

I think this is a crossroads moment for him where he will either be at Utd for life or move on.

I am a big fan of his and will not forget how important a player he was for us during Moyrs disastrous reign or for Van Haal either.

That said, as a business owner I am all too aware of having someone in my team who whilst vital at one stage needs to be measured subsequently against the good of the future of the business, with stability and f.


1.) 17 Jun 2017 19:36:18
I think every UTD fan knows his worth and what he means to the team, but I think you cannot underestimate he is spanish, his girlfriend and family live in Spain, its got to be a huge wrench for him to be away from them.

If Madrid sign donnamurra then yes we can keep him, maybe 3 years til Barcelona come calling maybe longer , but there is still a chance we can lose him this summer I wouldn't bet against it unfortunately.




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28 Jan 2020 23:51:53
No laughing matter at all Griffin. Shamed the club. This is football. It should NEVER be personalised beyond voicing opinion.





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01 Feb 2018 01:08:33
I won't hold my breath until we see you again then North East. It doesn't tale a genius to work out that being 2 wins behind us after a six pointer for you suggests that maths isn't your strong point when it comes to how frequently we lose, sorry loose as you say. Very confusing. I am sure you mean lose, a word I would have expected a spurs fan to not only be able to spell but also understand in context to assist in a spelling bee.

For example lose. context please. an astonishing ability to lose by coming third in a two horse race.

I am sure you have some talent. but the above skills and sadly banter are as unfamiliar to you as winning. Perhaps you could try hide and seek. something which you could become a world beater at if you can manage to sneak into your trophy room.




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25 Aug 2017 07:27:57
Ive posted an explanation of how clubs accoubt for FFP on youtube. Have a look and it may aimplify it. You can dobwhatever you loke as a business as long as you comply with legislation. I run sevwral businesses and we operate similar principles on tax and finance. Even easier if all your assets are governmwnt owned as arw the Qataris. I work wirh the soverign wealth funds a lot. Its srandard practice in middle east to subsidise and grow assets. Its practically their entire business model across the board, not just in sport.




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09 Aug 2017 23:54:11
Wa hey. Hi Syd. Good to see ypu back fella. Actually i agree with ed 002 we will make at least one more signing. However i do think we saw last night (we were there) that we are massively outclassed compares to the days when we could expect to compete with the best in Europe. Its really simple. We need top quality players in each position with a stable consistent defence and midfield with competition in attack to ensure they take their chances every time or take a place on the bench. We need 3 full backs, 4 wingers and allow martial and rashford to move to beibg part of a 4 man striker group along with Lukaku and Ibra when fit again. Only then will we be complete. Lingard and mhiki aren't good enough, neither is smalling or darmian or blind. Aell up and build up or descend into mediocrity.




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21 Apr 2017 23:54:18
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit 007. If you have a counter opinion then say so.


{Ed007's Note - At least use the quote in it's entirety,

"Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence.”

My counter opinion is that you are no better a supporter or more knowledgeable than any other poster and anyone that thinks otherwise probably has some issues and a smal penis.}



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21 Apr 2017 23:36:16
Utter nonsense. The true test of a amazing players is the view of his fellow professionals. We now laud scholes as truly world class but only after the likes of iniesta xavi and guardiola point out his strengths and their reverence for him whilst we fans valued players such as giggsy keane and Beckham on a par or ahead of him. The quiet and deadly unsung hero. Pogba is absokutely vital and central to all that has been good about utd this season and he makes others (mhiki rashford herrera and latterly even fellaini) look like world beaters. The kid is unbelievable for a 23 year old and in my view has carried us without credit in many games this season. He dies the hard graft, the unheralded disruption of opponents play and speed of counter attack incredibly well and has been massively let down in his assists by a hugely wasteful forward line. The guy is pure class and gives his all virtually every game and lifts the team and the dressing room whilst carrying the burden of the world's most expensive player at the age of 23 and joined us without ECL and knowing the task at hand was far from easy. He had and could have taken easier options and anyone criticising him is a sad excuse for a utd fan and lacks analytical insight of what it takes to be a true red at heart with a goal to out utd on top of the world once again!


{Ed007's Note - Ach at least the rest of the little people on here have got a 'real' fan and tactical genius like you to keep them right.}