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06 Sep 2023 09:58:53
Couple of journos saying Utd have been contacted by un named Saudi clubs interested in taking Sancho this month. Quite possibly clickbait nonsense but if true what would you do if you were the club?

Given his form for past 30 months, his wages (around 300k + per week) and the ETH situation I would snap their hands off for 40mill and just admit its another one we got wrong.


{Ed077's Note - get him out. Not had a single great game since joining. He should work his socks off to earn his spot in the starting XI instead of crying like a baby. Not the kind of attitude to persevere with

1.) 06 Sep 2023 11:46:51
I'd take just about any offer that at least takes his wages off our books. Otherwise, along with Antony, it's very much looking like we're going to have two highly paid big money transfers added to our long list of failures. Whatever the club can do to mitigate its losses it should do.

2.) 06 Sep 2023 11:53:50
45/ 50 mill I would kiss their hand. Shore up with a proper CB in Jan and another striker on loan or permanent basis and we have all the pieces for the second half of the season when it really counts. Playing Fifa manager on fantasy football lol.

3.) 06 Sep 2023 12:26:29
Sell him, cut your losses on his wages and the amount they bought him for. Give Garnacho all of his game time he would have gotten along with Pellestri coming in for Antony and then Diallo when he's fit and ready again.

4.) 06 Sep 2023 12:38:22
Time to cut ties if possible. It's one thing to have a player who isn't performing, but when that player starts causing trouble and being disruptive there is literally no reason to keep him.

Sell him and give Pellistri and Amad more chances this season. If we have to we can look at adding someone in January.

5.) 06 Sep 2023 13:49:33
he can't run in rainy manchester what chance does he have in 40 degree heat. goodbye good riddance.

6.) 06 Sep 2023 15:50:56
He’s been garbage. Take anything above £20m and get him out. Much better than being stuck with a player who can’t be arsed and causes disruption for the next 3 years whilst earning ridiculous wages.

7.) 06 Sep 2023 16:14:51
The Man utd sunk cost fallacy continues.
Sell Sancho and Anthony asap.
Both tripe
Amad, pellestri and Garnacho, the latter should be starting every game from Brighton onwards. He is ready.

8.) 06 Sep 2023 16:15:03
Bite their hand of if it’s true, but it’s probably not! whilst I don’t agree with what Ten done (should deal with problems in house instead of just getting people on his side) I not rated Sancho since day one and said at the time he was a complete waste of time and about his attitude problems, I was told did not know what I was talking about he needs to settle and he is a great footballer who will get better and better! That really turned out well ain’t it! No loss whatsoever could not care less if Antony goes the same way, that’s 3 misfits that will be gone!

9.) 06 Sep 2023 16:24:52
2 misfits Trafford, 2.
The other is a world class talent who is coming back once the snowflakes have melted away ?.

10.) 06 Sep 2023 16:59:26
Guess we'll know within a day whether he goes or not.
We'll then have gone from having 6-7 winger types and offloading the flotsam to end up with only a few genuine wingers, or left/ right sided attackers as they've become :D
I first began following Utd as I was a fan of the Danish team and we had a chap Jesper Olsen. Strachan on the other flank. A few years later along came the likes of Lee Sharpe, Ryan Giggs, and the fastest thing I've seen on two legs Andrei Kanchelskis.
These are the types of players who'd get me off my seat back in the day. We have two genuine wingers, Garnacho and Antony. Rashford is a more modern type.
I guess we'd be in the market come January if Sancho does move on. Who knows, god help us who knows what could be going on with Antony by then.
A couple of terrific players in the Prem who could do a job. Mitoma, Eze, Olise, Diaby et al.

11.) 06 Sep 2023 17:47:39
Accept any offer, get him gone.

It’s 1 less player from the Ole era stinking the place out with their poor attitude, and a ridiculous salary gone too.

12.) 06 Sep 2023 17:53:00
Should also have added… Pellestri has been nothing not positive so far. He’s not made a squeak to the media, and always looks to beat his man. He may or may not be good enough, but I’d rather give him Sancho’s minutes to find out, rather than let cabbage brain wear the short again.

13.) 06 Sep 2023 17:59:34
Mitoma seems like an excellent player but doesn't he play on the left? We already have Rashford and Garnacho there, so he's highly unlikely. If Sancho fails to be sold or measure up (most likely scenario because he clearly doesn't have the talent or the cojones and who wants an overpaid whiner) and then we lose Antony (a dead cert if he's charged by either British or Brazilian prosecuters), we will probably end up with either Diallo, Pellistri or one of Mount/ Bruno providing width from that side. With a decent CF, reinforcements in MF, and defenders eventually coming back into fitness, I don't think any of those options will be a significant downgrade, and maybe the opposite. It's not as though either Sancho or Antony has been lighting up the EPL, although at least Antony puts a proper shift in.

14.) 06 Sep 2023 19:33:10
I honestly don’t think you would miss either of them, in fact least if Bruno or mount plays there crosses will come in…. I don’t think Ten fancies Pellestri in the slightest which is another mystery in my book.
I be shocked if Antony not suspended before they come back, the messages are not too savoury and he not even denying those! The excuse of a volatile relationship from Antony, makes you laugh, he is like a spoilt petulant child on the pitch if he tackled, what shocks me most though is Ten must have known his temperament from Ajax! Let he still chose to buy him, that’s another mystery!
We seem to stumble from one mess to another, it’s like a bad soap opera!

What would be nice imo is if new owners come in and made sweeping changes from top to bottom, the whole lot gone all paid off, no one stays start again, get all departments all working with the same game plan, I’m not sure it’s anything like that at the moment and certainly not for last 10 years, even all board need to go, you had some of them plotting against Jose back then so guess probably same now. It’s a shambles as much as anyone tries to make excuses it’s just not normal for it to be like this!

15.) 06 Sep 2023 19:53:58
Don’t bank on that jimbo, I don’t think he ever recovers from it, not only a tarnished reputation, there are too many against it, for it to happen.
I agree one of the best talents we had for a long time, but that in no way overcomes the despicable behaviour and attitude he got.
Don’t give me all that no charges so innocent stuff either we all know how that come about.
Must be because lucky number 11 shirt cases get dropped!

16.) 06 Sep 2023 20:12:36
Aye Shawthing he does play on the left. Just chucking winger names out there. Sancho for his sins does seem a bit more diverse in where he can be played. Personally feel he's got more potential as a 10. Jack of all trades, master of none.

17.) 07 Sep 2023 10:13:16

He is physically weak and hates a tackle or physicality. He just does not have the toughness for this league.

He needs to play in a league where you are afforded time on the ball and more space and open play. Playing in a league where you have 20 players in 1/ 3 of the pitch most of the time and fast and physical not his thing.

I would get him out as soon as possible which is Jan at best, We will take a major financial loss on this guy, which does not help us one bit and the club is stuck and in a very very difficult place with what's going on with guys like him and Antony, Maguire, DVB.

IF anything it is quite evident the club needs to put their foot down and force some discipline with an iron fist by simply asking people who are earning massive wages behave like professional on the pitch and off the pitch.

Reserve football till Jan if it was me and I realize it will not help his valuation in terms of moving him but we are already going to take a bath on it so a bit more is of no consequence if we finally want to make a point.

Its a circus for a manager atm.

18.) 07 Sep 2023 11:18:17
Take their hands off for that sort of money- go in january for another striker and also ship varane with him tbh and get a young cb- we have cover up front and hopefully players coming back by then.

19.) 07 Sep 2023 19:40:19
Not banking on anything Trafford.
But there is nothing to lose from my side.

In seriousness though, the club, which is the most important part in all of this, needs to learn.
The latter years or Fergie have led to the current demise, of that I have no doubt, but that is a separate issue. However, I'm pretty confident in saying, under Fergie's watch, this event 1. Would likely not have happened under his watch, or 2. If it did, it would have been killed off immediately, such is the talent of MG.

I said very early on, MG needed a team of people to guide him through life to ensure he focused on banging screamers in the top bin instead of his girlfriends chin. That would have happened under Fergie, the question is, has all that kind of support been removed from the club, the evidence suggests so, as we have a continual flow of issues coming out of the club, be that abusive C***s, overpaid tripe who are stealing a living or mentally unfit personnel who are not fit to lick the dog rubbish of Keano's loafers after taking his dogs for a walk.

The signs appear to be there that we are in a transition towards better times, but these type of distractions need to go away, fast.
We need to create a ship that sails plainly through the seas, unnoticed by the media, until we reach our final destination, atop the premier league ladder and lifting champions league trophies.

20.) 07 Sep 2023 20:26:25
We need to go back to basics with transfers. We seem to now go for the finished article and pay big bucks. Imo go get the guys that deal with brightons transfers, offer them the big wages and sort this mess out. Over the past 6 years we've brought pogba, lukaku, sancho, maguire and Anthony for big money, big money mistakes. For the price of one of these players we could have got all of these players. ferguson, mitoma, caicedo, mcalliser and estupinion. All of whom would have improved this team massively. We like shiney toys with big names but none have delivered. Massive wages and fees.

21.) 08 Sep 2023 11:06:31

I agree completely. We seem to spend big chunks of money on players who everyone has heard about and get a lot of media coverage. We are generally competing for their signature with other clubs in most cases and selling clubs end up getting a premium over what we should be paying.

Our academy is strange as it produces either worldly attacking players and the rest are so average and no CB or mids coming though at all. Mainoo is the exception and remains to be seen if he is going to make it.

I know people might disagree but Rashford in world class for me, Greenwood before his suspension was even ahead of rash for me and higher level and was ranked with likes mbappe as top 3 young strikers in the world.

Garnacho is another one, Who could be something special and yes he will have bad games, they all do.

Show me a PL team who has produced 3 players of this caliber from their academy in the last 6 years.

What's missing is, we should be off buying 18/ 19 olds for reasonable fees 10-15 mill range, who might be ready even if we don't think so and at worst even if one or two seasons, loan them out to other European or championship teams, That's the one piece we don't do well at all.

I finally have MU TV and been watching some of the youth games. There a few players that are interesting and have potential but still ways to go.

22.) 08 Sep 2023 12:08:23
AHMED…. Your seriously putting Rashford and Ganarcho and Greenwood in the same class as Mbappe, well that confirms it, your totally deranged!

That’s not red tinted glass’s that's totally bordering on lunacy!

23.) 09 Sep 2023 06:53:11
Wow, calling people deranged, I honestly don't understand how eds let this slip.

Also, he didn't compare all of them to Mbappe, only Greenwood (which I agree), you should really read more closely.

24.) 10 Sep 2023 07:49:43
Must make it right then if you agree Trololo……. How on earth can even Greenwood be on same level as Mbappe, not kicked a ball in 18 months, previous to that not even a regular, got chucked home from England squad, won nothing, yet you say he on same level as Mbappe, not mind boggles.

Then a snide remark…sums up the post!

25.) 11 Sep 2023 07:37:18
Everyone has an opinion, but I really do not care much what you will say, as I've seen your posts and I can't take your opinion very seriously. I don't even want to go to any debate, be it about Greenwood, Ten Hag, or anything, I'd rather just ignore your posts from now on.



26 Jun 2022 20:03:04
Fulham in advanced talks ofr ANDREAS PERRIRA around 10 mill quid . plus add ons. v good business for us if true. good luck to him.


1.) 26 Jun 2022 20:31:31
Just heard this. Great news for us and Pereira. £10m - that could be the money we have been haggling with Barcelona for De Jong over the last six eons.

2.) 26 Jun 2022 23:06:51
Who’s doing the transfers at Fulham, Ed Woodward?

3.) 27 Jun 2022 06:31:34
GDS, I don't care, but if they are prepared to pay 10m for Pereira then maybe we should show them around our training ground of misfits and freaks and see if we can shift them a few more players.

4.) 27 Jun 2022 09:45:20
Haha I agree, £40m for Eric Bailly would transform their defence.

5.) 27 Jun 2022 10:35:15
Pure class GDS. Let’s hope the remaining players unlikely to feature under Ten Hag will be moved on swiftly too. Suspect Pereira by far the easiest to shift though!

6.) 27 Jun 2022 10:59:37
Halesini, I agree. While Pereira isn't a great player, he isn't on ridiculous wages and is fit more often than not.

The ones we will struggle to shift are those on high wages and/ or spend more time on the physios table than on grass.

7.) 27 Jun 2022 11:27:03
We’ve got a number of squad players who either through form or injury record just aren’t good enough to hack it in the premier league. Bailly has looked great at times albeit often rash in the challenge but, like Jones and Tuanzebe, seems to be made of glass. Maybe the like of Palace, Everton, Southampton they could stake a claim at first team football but their injury records suggest they wouldn’t play all the time. Their wages just won’t justify the investment.

Phil Jones is on £110k a week
Eric Bailly is on £87k a week

Highly unlikely someone else is going to pick up that kind of tab.

8.) 27 Jun 2022 15:46:31
But who'll win the player of pre-season, now?

9.) 27 Jun 2022 17:14:09
We might keep him for a couple of games of the tour and then let him go after that Nou. Let him hit a 40 yard volley.

10.) 28 Jun 2022 13:37:37
Personally I'd rather sell Fred and keep pereira but we all know that won't happen.



21 Oct 2020 07:38:00
Eric Bailly out for 3-4 weeks with muscle injury confirmed . Feel sorry for the lad but its a business and might be wise to think about cashing in if he can't stay fit, obviously more to it than plain bad luck he might just be one of those injury prone players his whole career.


1.) 21 Oct 2020 08:42:09
I said this over the summer, while I think Bailly is one of our better centre backs, the lad just can't stay fit.

2.) 21 Oct 2020 09:28:21
I don’t even think he’s that good. Bailly, Rojo and Jones all need to be shipped out and replaced. Promote Tuanzebe and one other, and buy another CB.

Tuanzebe last night was incredible. Now if he can stay fit!

3.) 21 Oct 2020 10:04:59
If Tuanzebe can stay fit then he can become a great option for us. Mengi also looks a super talent. Add that to Maguire and Lindelof (who aren't half as bad as most people seem to think) . Then we have some decent players to work with, if we play three at the back then Shaw looks well suited to the LCB role, maybe look to bring in another left footed CB to complete with him and add some balance to our defensive options.

4.) 21 Oct 2020 12:07:50
I’m with you Eric, I don’t see what Bailly has to offer us. It probably says more about the quality of our other CBs that Bailly is highly thought of.

5.) 21 Oct 2020 15:55:17
Really like Tuanzebe. But most importantly, we looked much more in control and focused. Lindelof looks much more assured when not playing with Maguire.

Maguire's positional sense is a nightmare which gives those around him more work to do. But when lindelof plays with a more competent centre half, like Tuanzebe last night, it just seems to work better.

But I'm sure Maguire will walk back in unfortunately.

And shappy, mengi, he is the one. Honestly, really excited to see him when he makes the step up. We shouldn't need to buy another CB with him around.

6.) 21 Oct 2020 17:12:13
Angel, Mengi looks potentially like a top level talent. However, that jump from academy to professional football is vast, and many highly talented players have fallen by the wayside.

To be honest if looking at our central options when playing with three at the back we have Lindelof, Maguire and Shaw as first choice and I think they work well together. Tuanzebe and Mengi coming through to challenge those in the first 11. What we really need is another left footed (or at least left sided) centre back to challenge Shaw.

When playing three at the back the RCB and the LCB need to be comfortable moving wider into areas more traditionally covered by the full back. Which is why ideally you want a left footed LCB.

There are some very good options out there who could be available. David Alaba, if he can't sort out a new deal with Bayern would excel in the role. While players like Pau Torres, Zagadou, Bastoni, Badiashile and Ndicka could all offer solid options as well, all being left footed.

While Mengi has played on the left of the centre back partnership and at LB on occasion, so while being right footed he could easily enough cover there.

7.) 21 Oct 2020 17:51:14
I'm still not convinced with Lindelof angel.
He has not improved over time.
He still gets bullied and struggles in one vs one situations.

I'd like us to go for a top class CB like Giminez or Upamecano, to compete with Maguire, Lindelof and Tuanzebe.

8.) 21 Oct 2020 23:37:53

You say unfortunately our captain will walk straight back in but I thought he had a very good game against Newcastle, he won absolutely everything and looked so assured after he got his goal.

9.) 22 Oct 2020 09:40:11
I think a back three with quick players either side of Maguire suits him. It allows him to step forward into midfield with the ball with adequate protection either side of him.

While I think Lindelof has better defensive instincts than Maguire, Harry is far more physical and certainly stronger in the air.

While we played excellently against PSG one thing I did note was PSG never tried the aerial route. Which suited us as Shaw and Lindelof are okay at best in the air and Tuanzebe is untested at the highest level.

In the EPL Maguire might be the better option. In Europe Lindelof might be the better option.

10.) 22 Oct 2020 12:33:46
I don’t get this obsession with needing a left footed CB. Especially as most wingers are now inverted and cut inside, moving on to the defenders right foot. It seems mythical to me.

11.) 22 Oct 2020 23:41:45
Wazza, it's about balance and shape. I would agree in a back four a left footed CB is less important. However, when you play a back three the LCB will have to move out to cover the LB area of the pitch. Which is why being left footed in that situation is preferable.

While the current fashion for higher pressing means that centre backs need to play passes quicker while maintaining accuracy. If you are right footed playing on the left, your options for a quick pass are limited to those players playing on your left, either LB or LW. Whereas a left footed player has a wider area of the pitch to play passes quickly.

If you're right footed and you are pressed then you will have to turn so your left hand side is shielding the ball. If you do that on the left hand side of the pitch you are turning inward towards your goal and then your passing option is limited to your CB partner or maybe a longer more dangerous pass across your box to your RB. If they are marked then you are screwed.

The advantage of a right footed player on the right and a left footed player on the left. Is that the players can play passes more quickly off their stronger foot. While if they are pressed they will naturally, instinctively turn their body in such a way that they will play away from goal and away from the danger area.

That is why Pep has signed Lapotre and Ake, while Arteta has signed Gabriel, David Luis and Pablo Mari.

Tactical managers looking for the best "ideal" solution. It is why left footed CB's are highly prized.

It's why Bayern Munich paid €80m for Lucas Hernandez. While they also play Alaba at LCB often if Hernandez isn't available.

While it's perfectly possible to play a right footed player on the left, you statically get better results from playing a left footer.

12.) 23 Oct 2020 13:24:59
The players you list don't exactly pour glory over your argument Shappy. With the exception of Laporte, of course, but the rule of averages says one of them will be good.

Look where it got LVG, he's history and we've ended up with Rojo.

Think where we'd be if had just signed Koulibaly or Varane rather than try to over complicate things.

I can't remember any time in following football where a CB pairing has been successfully because one of the pair is left footed, and that's when wingers were proper wingers. In fact most to the best pairings have both been right footed.

It's a load of old bolloxolgy if you ask me.

13.) 23 Oct 2020 15:54:18
GDS, not convinced he deserves the spot to be honest given how he has been playing. And it's unfortunate that he will walk straight back into the team.

14.) 23 Oct 2020 15:54:52
TRD, I'm still much more convinced by Lindelof than I am Maguire.

15.) 24 Oct 2020 00:52:16
We’ve got a LCB. His name is Rojo. Argentina international. Didn’t work out. Injured a lot. Very rash. To be fair he would have been decent in a back 3 a few years back. Never really tried it.

16.) 24 Oct 2020 02:12:36

He played there for the under 23s tonight who played a 3-4-3 formation. Williams played right wing back and Pellestri also played. A last minute penalty winner in a 2-1 win, impressive performance considering how young this team is.

17.) 24 Oct 2020 08:05:11
Is Rojo even in the Premier league squad?

{Ed047's Note - yes but not the Champions league squad



05 Oct 2020 13:50:52
Anyone know if Mike Smalling can play the piano? Fully expecting him to be unveiled at 7pm tonight in a fog of dry ice "like a new signing" a la stars in their eyes.


1.) 05 Oct 2020 14:29:25
Isn't that the standard line they trott when someone comes back from a long-term injury, it like a new signing, and we still want more for Mike than we just paid for Telles.



19 Aug 2020 16:46:53
Dont know if anyone listened to the Manchester is Red podcast today -I listen via MEN as I live outside UK . Samuel Luckhurst was very pessimistic about signings -he thought maximum of 2 -I don't know how highly he is regarded in UK - Ed W. came in for a bit of stick again for his "one deal at a time" strategy for incomings and out goings - as mentioned today "transfer window is 10 weeks .3 weeks gone already and seems to be all in for Sancho" Brooks at Bournemouth is someone Ole is keen on.


1.) 19 Aug 2020 18:05:07
As per most summer windows a player will suddenly come out of nowhere that we sign when everyone is looking at a different player and then it will be totally forgotten and talked about that we only do one deal at a time. So I’d imagine we might sign 1 or 2 players that haven’t been mentioned as well as a major signing.




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01 Nov 2023 08:57:22
Not a popular opinion I know but I still say Ralf R. leaving and not going upstairs was a loss to the club.

He should never have been manager it was like a headmaster from a top private school being asked to cover the Biology teachers maternity leave -not his forte but he spoke sense and had a great vision for the future of the club top to bottom.


1.) 01 Nov 2023 09:31:23
I think Ten Hag should probably doing that role now.

2.) 01 Nov 2023 09:58:32
I agree that he should have been given the DoF job or similar. He was a good manager but not a great one during his career, but he really excelled when working as the overarching guy bringing everything together.

I don't think there was a problem with him being the interim manager, ultimately we were never going to get a top class manager to take up the role for 6 months. The problem was how it was implemented in my opinion. He was tasked with bringing the squad into line but totally undermined. If the squad knew he was coming in to manage them for 6 months then he'd be going upstairs and would have their futures in his hands then I suspect the players would have stepped in line and followed his instructions. Certainly the ones who wanted to have a future at the club would have.

He'd have been able to really get a look at the players, work out who needed to go and who could stay, then stepped back with all that knowledge and start running the football side of things properly.

But that would have been the sensible thing to do, that would have been common sense. Unfortunately those are things the current people pulling the strings cannot abide. So it was never going to actually happen that way.

The biggest issue I think the club has is that we have too many people in many undefined roles, or roles that aren't clearly defined. When Sir Alex and David Gill left there was a power vacuum and there are too many people with their fingers in the pie, unqualified or ill-suited to the role they have.

Look at Darren Fletcher for example, he spent nearly 18 months at the club without a clearly defined job title until they made one up for him. He was everywhere, full access to the coaching set up, the boardroom, the offices. If I didn't know better I'd say he was just there to spy on everyone, gather information and feed it back to someone. Or maybe it was just a job for one of the boys. A little bit of cronyism.

I like Fletcher, he was a great servant to the club during his playing career and he seems like a nice guy. Has had his health challenges and worked to overcome them. I'm sure he's a stand up guy, but I'm not sure what his role was or how he could possibly be qualified to do, whatever it was he was doing.

I mean was his voice one that influenced signings, staff changes, structural changes? Who knows. He seemed to be everywhere doing nothing.

He's just the most high profile example of people behind the scenes with undefined roles that seem to overlap with others.

The whole thing needs clearing out. I wouldn't be surprised to see a much more streamlined structure once SJR gets a hold of it. With many people being let go and hopefully a few better suited people being brought in.

3.) 01 Nov 2023 12:01:25
But that was the plan Shappy, he was announced as the interim manager and told he would be staying on as a consultant for a further 2 years. The players still didn't give a toss.

These players just aren't worth the money and wages being paid to them. We still reward players with high wages on long contracts for having a purple patch. Behind the scenes we are an absolute shambles.

I lauded praise on Ten Hag last year as I thought he deserved it, this season between his signings and his decision making, he is slowly drowning. We talk about players not being able to cope with the pressure of Old Trafford but I think the manager is feeling it now.

We desperately need a proper DOF. Someone who can identify quality players and also someone who can challenge the manager so he doesn't continue to make bizarre decisions in the transfer market.

Rangniak oversaw some of the worst performances iv ever seen. I know he was coming in talking about open heart surgery for the club (which of course he is right) I doubt anyone around the club liked that. He was too honest and even if Ten Hag would have accepted him as DOF, I don't think the club would have hired him.

As for where we are now, we're yoyoing like we always do. If it was my decision I'd keep Ten Hag over any players, simply because I don't think any manager could turn these lads around long term, but he will be sacked soon if he can't right this ship.

1 goal from our forward line so far. We had 4 or 5 breakaway chances against City and made the wrong decision every time. We're a team of overpaid pretenders.

It's weird now as a fan, I'm obviously upset after results like Sunday but I'm really starting not to care. As long as we have owners who not care, players who don't care, next up is the fans.

4.) 01 Nov 2023 12:32:35
He's not slowly drowning. The players and the media are going after him. They want a sacking and fans are too blind to see that backing him and seeing this through is the best cause for the club.

Players who don't fit the system have to leave. Players who don't play are going to be unhappy, that is why you remove them quickly. The club is chaos above EtH and they should be strongly backing him.

Arteta, Pep, Klopp all got rid of players that were popular when they came in to build a team that they wanted. Back the guy and stop giving power to these players.

5.) 01 Nov 2023 12:39:02
I think that was ETH’s biggest mistake. He should’ve seen what the alternatives were before vetoing the decision, if indeed that is what happened as was widely reported.

6.) 01 Nov 2023 12:50:19
Dodgy, I'm a huge fan of Ten Hag but he's making some very peculiar decisions lately. His marquee signing of Mount can't find his way into the team. His reluctance to drop underperformering players like Rashford or play players out of position like Bruno is having a severely negative impact on the team.

Playing Evans over Varane as a tactical decision against City is ludicrous. 10 games into the season and you're playing McTominay and Maguire, two players he was trying to shift because they weren't good enough is ludicrous.

Playing Hannibal for two games, praising him and then dropping him doesn't send the right message.

As I said, I'd keep the manager and start getting rid of everyone, but he's not doing himself any favours with some of the things he does.

Playing Lindelof LB against City was a necessity due to injuries. But our plan to play it short to Onana from a goal kick and then straight to Lindelof was suicide. We did it the entire match and we couldn't get out once.

In game management is also an issue. We finish games formationally disjointed and out of balance. I just think the cool methodical Ten Hag of last year isn't around this year hence why he may be drowning a bit.

7.) 01 Nov 2023 13:39:42
Mumbles, the consultant role was a typical half-assed approach from the club. It wasn't a real role or position with any sort of power or influence.

Basically told he'd be paid a retainer fee for the club to ask his opinion on things then ignore it because they don't like it.

That's not a real role or position. It's not even a half measure.

The players are a shambles, most of them need slinging out the door. If it was down to me their feet wouldn't touch the floor.

EtH in my opinion has had to manage a number of frankly ridiculous number of issues, none of them of his own making. For that reason I think he is the right man for the job, I just think he doesn't have the support to hold it all together and the freedom to do what is required to move the club forward.

I think he wants to build a team for the long term, most of his signings and the players he has pursued are 24 or younger. He's clearly trying to build something that can last.

The club on the other hand seem to be thinking far more short term, looking at players who they can signed to have an immediate impact and get the club into the top four.

Casemiro is the most obvious example. He is not even close to a similar player to FdJ who the manager wanted. He is also 6 years older than the Dutchman. He was a player the club were offered and they took up the option. Apparently the player EtH considered as an alternative to FdJ was Rabiot. Now while we might have some concerns over his attitude or his disruptive mother, he is a much more similar player to FdJ than Casemiro and is 4 years younger than the Brazilian. He'd have also been significantly cheaper than the Brazilian and would have left more funds available to potentially strengthen in other areas. Maybe signing Rabiot would have meant that when Ronaldo threw his toys out the pram that there was budget enough to get a better replacement than Weghorst on loan. Who knows.

The issue though is that the money spent on a short term option like Casemiro has tied up 70m in transfer fees and 72m in wages over his 4 year deal. That's 150m tied up in one player who is now showing signs of decline. These sort of deals are restricting the managers ability to build a team for the future. They restrict the ability to bring in players further down the line. We've signed 4 players on loan last season and 2 on loan this season. That's 6 loan signings in 12 months. Sir Alex made something like 5 loan signings in 26 years. We've also signed two players on free transfers not because they were premium options available on a Bosman, but because the clubs hands were tied and they were the best value options available to the club.

These are the restrictions the manager is having to work with, restrictions placed on him because the club values getting top four as more important than building a league winning side.

The only signing I think was entirely down to EtH and was a mistake and needed challenging was Antony. I said a the time that we were paying 85m for a 40m player. There were better players available for much less. Players like Yeremi Pino, Moussa Diaby, Nico Williams or even Jarrod Bowen would have been cheaper options that are also more talented. That's a situation where our poor structure and bad reputation for scouting/ signing players probably lead to signing a player that the manager wanted rather than have a clear plan/ structure for recruitment.

However the real issue is that we don't have any sort of consistency in our recruitment. You need to have one of two approaches to transfers to have any chance of building a cohesive side. You either have a club strategy, where you have a set criteria for signings, an age profile, a type of player, players who have proven themselves in a similar style to how your team plays etc. You then hire managers to fit the club vision and he will be able to work with the signings as there is a shared view in how a side should play and the types of players needed to do so. This is the better way of doing it. The other is to completely back your manager, get the signings he wants, the positions, the players etc. Everything. This way can work, but you probably get a few more misses. It also leaves you in a situation of having a squad moulded to a specific manager and style when it comes times to part ways with the manager. The other issue is most managers are concerned with the here and now. They don't care about having a player who'll peak and be a club great after that manager leaves the club. They want players that will help them win right now.

Both ways can work, both have potential drawbacks. The key is consistency though, you commit to one way and you stick to it.

At United the problem is that there is no consistency to our transfer policy, sometimes we buy a player for a manager, sometimes we buy a player the club wants, be that for brand appeal and marketing, or because they are focused on a player to get us UCL or whether its a player for the future (This happened with Martial, LvG came out and said it was a signing for the next manager and not him) . Either way its a scattergun approach with no clear idea about what sort of squad you are creating. This has been further compounded by regularly sacking managers and still having no clear approach to recruitment either player or manager. Hiring managers who have vastly different ideas and approaches to football, then allowing that manager to dictate some signings changing the shape of the squad.

This has lead to a squad that bar a few probably all need moving on and totally rebuilding. There is no cohesion, no rhyme or reason to our squad, players who actually play very different styles of football, a lopsided age profile. Just a real life interpretation of Frankenstein's monster, made up of parts from vastly different bodies.

We can see this in that no manager has been able to fully impart how they want to get the side to play. While any style gets thrown out the window when key players get injured or are unavailable as the players stepping in just cannot play the same way.

The closest we have come to a coherent style has been when we have played by defending deep in numbers and hit teams on the counter. This is because it is the most simplistic way of playing and most players can play this way to varying degrees. It masks players with lower technical ability because teammates are closer and less demands are placed on individuals. Attacking is simple, play it over the top for someone to chase. Defending is easier with more teammates closer together, less space to cover and less likely to get isolated.

Most managers despite their preferred style or ideologies have ended up playing this way as its the only way to eek out a result with a incoherent squad. Then we hit some poor form and the manager is sacked and the cycle starts again.

We need to break that cycle. The only way to do that is to have a consistent recruitment strategy and stick to it. Bring in players who suit a specific way of playing, and keep going. Give the manager the freedom to finish mid-table until the squad is coherent and capable of playing the preferred style consistently. Stop putting demands to finish in the top four on the manager. That demand forces them to change tact and fall into the same trap as their predecessors. It forces the club to step in and make inconsistent transfers to try and focus on a short term aim. Become performance focused rather than results focused. Good performances will always lead to good results if you can keep improving. Focusing on results means to compromise everything else in chasing a short term aim.

This sort of vision/ planning needs to come from a competent DoF who understands football, someone who measures success in performances and trophies and not on how healthy the spreadsheet looks.

Ultimately a team that succeeds in their football aims will earn money, one that fails with its football aims will eventually struggle to make money.

People want to see good football, they want success. That leads to sponsors wanting to be connected to your club and have access to that market. The more successful you are on the pitch the more coverage you get and the bigger a market you offer to sponsors. While success on the pitch means you are in more competitions for longer, more prize money, more TV money.

It doesn't even make financial sense to focus on short term aims such as UCL qualification over building a successful team.

8.) 01 Nov 2023 14:27:07
RR was gone before Ten Hag was going before ten hag was interviewed. He slated the club seniors and they didn't like it. don't believe he didn't want him.

9.) 01 Nov 2023 14:57:29
RR staying and going had nothing to do with ETH. He does not make those decision. ETH job does not involve picking DOF. RR and murtagh was never going to work. No other club has that structure. leave it to us to screw up the simplest stuff.

10.) 01 Nov 2023 15:22:20
Although I don't think it will have been as personal as 'I don't want to work with RR' I would be surprised if the focus of many of ten Hag's interviews didn't circulate around his preference not to work with someone in that capacity, ie insisting he had control over specific things. Which makes you wonder how he'll interact with the new one, should Sir Jim bring one in.

11.) 01 Nov 2023 15:48:31
Spenno, I'd expect SJR to slimline the structure and make sure roles are clearly defined.

I'd imagine if he brings someone in to oversee the day to day running of the club it would be at Murtagh's expense. Whether they have another role for Murtagh or he leaves entirely who knows.

The rumours are that Paul Mitchell has been lined up to become the DoF. What that means for EtH is that instead of working with Murtagh he'd be working with Mitchell. Another name that's been bounded about is Dan Ashworth, who would be a phenomenal appointment as well. Although those rumours seem far more speculative.

That will have both benefits and drawbacks from EtH's perspective. It might mean he has less autonomy over some things I'd expect, although he might gain more in other ways. He'd also get to work with someone who has a proven track record and is considered a top candidate in that role.

It all depends how things shake out. However, he is currently working with Murtagh and he previously worked with Overmars. So it's not like he doesn't have experience of working with others or that he is some kind of dictator who needs total control over everything.

I'd imagine like most of us he will know when he's working with someone who is great at their job or not. Just like the rest of us, he's probably less keen to rely on those he knows aren't up to scratch.

I'd be very sceptical for example of the potential options the club come up with as possible transfer targets. Purely based on their shocking record.
Would you trust the opinion of the guy who scouted 804 RB's and came up with AWB as the best available? Or the guy who suggested Maguire? Or Fred?

The club need to start recruiting the best in class both on and off the pitch. Poor employees produce poor work, average employees produce average work, great employees produce great work. It's that simple.

12.) 01 Nov 2023 16:51:18
The entire scouting operation needs looking at. I have no idea how many scouts the club has across multiple continents - a few, dozens? - but it says a lot if the manager isn't happy with any of their recommendations (and there will be numerous players of all ages/ valuations being looked at) and insists on (largely) players he's had direct experience with. I see the benefits of that, he'll know their characters as well as their abilities. But overall I feel he's been given too much control in this area, and very little of it has paid off so far.

13.) 01 Nov 2023 17:49:05
Spenno, I tend to agree, I think he has had too much control. But I can also totally understand why he has been sceptical of trusting the people who have built this god awful squad. Especially as he knows it'll be his head on the chopping block.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather be sacked because a player I signed didn't work out than be sacked because I'm taking the blame for a player someone else has signed hasn't worked out.

I do think with a better recruitment structure in place with a clear and unified recruitment plan in place that we would be far more successful. I think it'll actually be beneficial for the manager to have such a structure in place. It'll provide them with better players more consistently, as well as freeing up more time for them to spend on other duties at the club.

Like during his first summer in charge, a better structure and plan to recruitment wouldn't have spent the entire summer chasing FdJ when it was clear he didn't want to leave. Would have identified a better alternative than Casemiro, probably for significantly less money. They would have found a better and much cheaper alternative to Antony and with the money saved would have probably brought in either a CB, CM, RB or ST to add more quality in depth across the squad.

14.) 01 Nov 2023 18:39:28
Mumbles - not read your take on the current situation, EtH meltdown, since the Derby defeat (or maybe I’ve just missed it) but always an insightful read, agree with almost every word about from the not caring! We all still care pal but I know where your coming from!

15.) 01 Nov 2023 19:45:33
Shappy, it took me long enough to read your reply and I have to agree with most of it. Always a good read!

DLIB, I havnt been posting too much. I still care obviously and will be tuning in in 30 minutes to watch us hopefully get a result. When I say I'm stopping caring, just means it takes me less time to get over a bad result.

We're normally on the same wavelength with things pal, i think we'll turn the corner anyways, hopefully sooner rather than later.

16.) 01 Nov 2023 19:47:14
Eth meltdown dlib? What meltdown?



27 Sep 2023 16:21:38
Amrabat really lifted that team last night- apart from his footballing skills how could you play in the same 11 and not be motivated to put a shift in alongside him ?

Others played their part too of course but I thought he was a breath of fresh air last night.


1.) 27 Sep 2023 19:22:39
Amarabat Mount garnacho and Hannibal,

For me when you have a few players working there balls off it’s infectious and rubs off on the other players

It was good to see

All be it was against a palace side with changes

But it was a good performance now we need that in the next 3 Leauge games against palace Brentford and Sheffield United.

Then the real test against city.

2.) 27 Sep 2023 19:55:56
Presses per 90 minutes across all PL teams:
1st: Hannibal
2nd: Hojlund

With Casemiro and Amrabat behind, and amount’s workrate, it’s looking like ETH’s signings are slowly starting to click.

Add to that Bruno who works his socks off, I can see is becoming quite hard to play against.

3.) 28 Sep 2023 07:44:32
Watching the interview with Amrabat his English is very good indeed. A good plus point to get ideas from the manager.

4.) 28 Sep 2023 08:43:18
Redman, a lot of non-English players speak better English than many English lads if we are being honest. I thought the same thing about Hojlund too.

5.) 28 Sep 2023 08:47:33
I love the optimism, but this was 1 game against a weakened Palace team.



21 Sep 2023 09:49:23
Only positives I can see on horizon is Amrabat mainoo Mount and I think Varane close to fitness.

Eriksons legs have gone so he won't feature much and with a bit of energy in there alongside him Cassimero might find his mojo again or get a few 60 minute run outs to rest him if needed

But one player i'm very disappointed in is MCT. The way he jogged back against Brighton for their first goal on Saturday hasn't been discussed enough, last night he wasnt much better with his effort.

There will be 2 sides to the story so whether he is sulking or whether he feels he's been overlooked too often or maybe didn't get a move I don't know but as one of the players who profess to love the club and can play like Pele for Scotland then best to ignore sentiment and move him on ASAP as he seems to have completley lost interest and hard to come back from that if that's how he feels. I just don't see what he can give us going forward except maybe 30 mill in transfer fee - which will drop off based on current performances.


1.) 21 Sep 2023 10:28:42
I thought his efforts were poor, even if considering Bayern Arte rumoured to be interested in him. Shop window and all that.

2.) 21 Sep 2023 11:59:47
It was made pretty clear to him that the manager does not fancy him and he should seek a move away from the football club. In August he hardly played at all but as soon as the window closes he's back in the fold and starting games again.

When a player is treated like that, he's inclined to not give 100% as he clearly doesn't have the full support of the club and manager.

He should have been sold in the summer and west ham put in a “decent” offer for him.

3.) 21 Sep 2023 12:05:44
A sense of professional pride should make them inclined to give 100%, DSG. Disappointed in him, because he always seemed to be one of those players, who while limited in ability, always seemed to make the effort.

4.) 21 Sep 2023 12:16:45
But it depends on the type of player we are talking about, Mctominay is clearly not good enough for this level technically and he knows that himself i assume.

These sort of players need full backing from team mates and coaches to play above their level because they are not good enough technically as a football player for the level.

They compensate for their severe lack of technical ability with a sort of “pashun premium” and running around a lot. Once they lose that support they are no good to you.

5.) 21 Sep 2023 13:02:28
Maybe we need Dave Brailsford of the Ratcliffe group in charge of "performance" for those leggy players.
A few months of magic milk shakes, several new asthma diagnoses, blood transfusions to tidy things up and we are good to go.

6.) 21 Sep 2023 13:09:50
The question is why the manager put McT on at all. Strange using him when in effect you have told him not good enough for United, good enough for West Ham then put him on at a key point. The manager should have put Megbri on, had the courage of his convictions.

7.) 21 Sep 2023 13:48:00
Making the change isn't that bad Red Man, he was trying to bring a bit of fight and energy to the midfield. Unfortunately for McTominay he is quite poor technically and if he's not working hard, he's not worth much to anyone.

I would assume when Amrabat is back and even Mainoo, that will see the end of McTominays cameos.

8.) 21 Sep 2023 13:52:18
Red man

Little but if hindsight bias. If hannibal had come on and got a red card because he was trying too hard then everyone would have said he should have played Scot.

Either way. Scot, like sancho, has shown us his colours and can rot at home on the sofa while we try to build this new team back up again. With everyone fit he is nowhere near the team, and I doubt we will get anything like 30m offered for him again.

McGuire gets pelters in here, but I have never doubted his effort. I have never felt he downed tools.

9.) 21 Sep 2023 14:33:49
There is professionalism and he's not playing for a Saudi club.
He's playing for his boyhood club.
No excuses and I'd rather start Dan Gore ahead of him.

10.) 21 Sep 2023 15:08:35
It's the luck of the draw in some respects. We played what should be our toughest UCL group game fixture at a time we are in what will probably turn out to be our worst run of form this season.

People are talking about our current form as if its the worst form to have every existed in world football.

Yet if we step back we have lost 4 games so far this season:

Away at Spurs

Away at Arsenal

Home to Brighton

and Away to Bayern Munich.

Just step out of the crazy anti-United narrative that the media is pushing currently and look in an unbiased way at those four fixtures and tell me honestly whether those are easily winnable games or fixtures you wouldn't ordinarily be surprised to lose?

There are four teams in the league that are undefeated so far this season, and we've played two of them away. Arsenal and Spurs have the 2nd and 3rd best defensive records in the league respectively.

While Brighton are the leagues top goal scorers.

Think about that logically, we are in poor form struggling at both ends of the pitch with making silly mistakes in defence and being wasteful in attack.

While we have played the two of the three best defences this season away from home, as well as the best attacking side in the league.

We've lost three tough fixtures during a time that the club is in meltdown off the pitch, while we have a ridiculous injury list and in ability to play a consistent side to try an build any momentum.

While since when has losing away to Bayern Munich ever been a shock? It pretty much happens to every single side that plays them at the Allianz Arena. They are also a side that have scored 14 goals in their previous 5 games.

Even if we were in great form no one could seriously be confident of us winning that game. Hopeful maybe, but not expectant.

The fact that we didn't get absolutely blown away given our current form can actually be seen as a positive, as can the way the players fought back to keep the score line respectable.

11.) 21 Sep 2023 16:01:24
Spurs away and Brighton at home at not games we’re expected to lose Shappy.
I draw my conclusions from watching the games. I haven’t watched any ‘build up’ before or analysis after a match for years because it’s all waffle.

The manner in which we are losing these games is the biggest concern. Also the lack of quality in our squad, albeit we do have a bad injury crisis. Eriksen is shot and his replacement last night was even worse.
Wolves, Spurs, Brighton and Bayern have all played straight through our team with ease. The score line last night masked an awful performance baring the first 15-20 minutes.
The players have zero fight in them at this early stage of the season. That’s a major worry for me.

12.) 21 Sep 2023 17:19:32
It seems no matter who comes in or leaves it’s still the same lame football couldn’t careless attitude which has stunk out the place for the last 10 years

The players couldn’t give two hoots

Does it really hurt them when we lose, does it hell they still pick up there astronomical wages and go back to there mansions and supercars.

13.) 21 Sep 2023 18:35:51

It would be hindsight if I hadn’t already been saying this. ETH tells player he isn’t wanted, then fans are shocked that he didn’t put everything in. Once they decided to sell, sell. The manager should have been able to tell his attitude, I would rather Megbri came on with some energy than play with 10.5 players, 9.5 if you take into account Rashford and Bruno.

14.) 21 Sep 2023 23:39:39

So its the clubs fault again and manager. player had a chance to go turned it down and stays and get paid to play but does not put the effort in because he is sulking according to you. That's very logical i see.

15.) 21 Sep 2023 23:44:06
2toms, Did I say that I'd expect to lose those games?

Or did I say "fixtures you wouldn't ordinarily be surprised to lose".

I'll give you a hint, look at the quotation marks.

There is a world of difference between expecting to lose and not being surprised that we lose.

16.) 22 Sep 2023 05:00:01
I’m not getting into technicalities about punctuation, but we are Manchester United and we should fully expect to batter at least Spurs and Brighton, in fact, we should retain the belief that we can batter all 4. We used to be the biggest football club in the world with the expectation of winning every single game, that mentality needs to make a comeback. We can keep harping back to the glory days of Sir Alex, but his blue print and hunger for success will never be outdated. I’ll never take other teams form into consideration because I think we should be winning every game. I know it’s an unrealistic expectation but that’s what we should be aiming for.

17.) 22 Sep 2023 06:55:36

More likely the club didn’t get the offer they wanted and didn’t want to pay his contractual requirement, bit like HM. Unrealistic by the club, indecision. Under SAF and Gill it would have been done, but now the bean counters have to try to ensure the owners get their dividends again.

18.) 22 Sep 2023 11:14:08
I agree we've had four poor results against top sides, and that most teams would have struggled in them. I'm more concerned about individual performances and tactical decisions in them. We changed formation and tried to stump Brighton, and for 20 minutes it worked although we didn't capitalise. Quick reshuffle by di Zerbi and we were sussed out and ended up being the side without any answers.



17 Sep 2023 09:42:36
Times like this makes me realise we have never fully replaced Juan Mata- we have tried Maguire, Bruno, Shaw, Rashford even a new boy like Martinez but none of them have ever mastered the Sunday morning apology like Juan Mata.

How I miss his sad little face, sometimes the clenched fist and the post match interviews or the sunday morning social media posts telling us the lads worked hard, they can't explain why they can't string 4 passes together or why every team that we play seem better organised or well drilled and more committed that ours. But the great skill he had was that rousing call getting us to beleive the lads couldn't wait to put things right, the fans deserve better and a new dawn was on the horizon.

And then we invaribly got a bit better than worse then the manager got sacked. I fear we haven't broken the cycle yet.


1.) 17 Sep 2023 10:54:48
Its the play book and the media will say and write things all week leading to the Bayern game and god help us after the Bayern game which will be a loss imo.

Then you add all the online forums and social media and its an eco chamber of rumours and negativity.

Before anyone has a go at me about how our standards have fallen to be expecting a loss, we have never won there in cl and their history in europe speaks for itself.

Its a realistic take on things and anything but a loss would be great result.

Club seems to be backing eth and my view is let's wait and see where we are 15/ 20 games into the season and personally going to ignore the noise.

2.) 17 Sep 2023 11:44:44
Think I'll stay away from this page until after the Burnley game when the hysteria of beating Burnley will lighten things up a bit!

3.) 17 Sep 2023 13:36:00
Nice post, Boyfromburrenway. I agree. Juan Mata, as decent a footballer as he might have been, epitomized of the post Ferguson trend of overpaying for established but no longer wanted names - and thereby increasing the need for public apologists - rather than actually casting a wider net and finding better players for less money. Mata was a straight up nice guy, the type you would want as a role model. You could not imagine such a decent, charitable and laconic chap ever hitting his companion.



01 Aug 2023 10:44:52
Dont know if there is any truth in our supposed interest in Everton kid Braithwaite 6ft 5 inch CH who was on loan at PSV with RuudVN who has been very impressed with him, big strong quick player good with the ball but I love this type of rumour more than the links to 100 mill players. Got to be players in UK below 20 mill that good coaching can turn in to top pL players, would love us to unearth one of them - nothing to do with saving money but just the actual finding and developing of young players is a skill we have been lacking in for too long now.


1.) 01 Aug 2023 11:48:17
I got to agree I always prefer those type of signings, the ones that come in with little to no expectations but grow into a top player at the club.




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18 Nov 2023 10:24:59
Very possibly Nagelsman -short term contract with Germany - was the flavour of the month there a short time ago, according to the media don't miss out on this guy everybody loved him.




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03 Sep 2023 09:18:27
Last year i caught the tail end of a radio chat about money in sport particularly football and they referenced one of the richest men in USA who was the owner of a sports team but can't remember who - the Dallas Squirrels or Florida pancakes or some such team and the interviewer said he was surprised that there were now so many American owners in PL but not this guy why not? He said because what they are doing is risky you don't know your income and costs each year - now, if you stopped this relegation nonsense, if you played a few games abroad each season to grow the popularity, if you knew before each season you were guaranteed to be in the Champions league not the Europa league or not even in Europe at all then yes count me in then you can really grow the clubs worldwide and know your costs before each season starts to allow you to get the best commercial deals. that's the future right there and possibly why they think it wil be worth 8 mill in future if changes are made to the set up to "Ameicanise " it.




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27 Aug 2023 11:02:21
couple other reports say 20 + add ons plus sell on clause which would be smart.




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13 Aug 2023 11:36:48
Once again i'm looking at youtube clips of the CBs we are linked to todibo tapsoba schuurs and have to say none of them look top notch. The only fella I've been impressed with in last 12 months (again mostly youtube clips) was Kim min jae he does look like a top defender.




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09 Aug 2023 20:03:08
Be very surprised if MCtom wants to go to WHU. Newcastle possibly but a team fighting relegation last year I doubt it.





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15 Nov 2023 19:38:59
Still don't see the upside for SJR -He is obviously a clever man but what's he really getting for 25%? Stadium needs serious overhaul and where is the money to do it and why would someone who owns 25% spend any money on it before we even get started on the money needed for the training ground, the wasteland outside the stadium and the playing staff.

Hope for his sake its not a vanity project that's going to go pear shaped on him which it may well do.




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13 Nov 2023 18:30:33
Its one thing seeing the big teams play well. But Wolves, West Ham, newcastle, Bournmouth Forest all pay lovely football at times, many of them with wingers who cost peanuts, defenders who cost under 15 million and mifielders in the same price bracket that just leave me baffled as to how we get it so wrong.




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06 Nov 2023 22:15:32
One of the worst attacking players in the PL.




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01 Nov 2023 22:51:32
I really hoped it would be players out . Martial, sancho, the same old names we all know before the manager - but i'm increasingly sure it will be ETH that will go and to be honest I think he has not done himself any favours with team selection, tactics and loyalty to underperforming players week after week and he will pay the price as I can't see SJR wanting to be starting off (if he ever does) with a manager seemingly on the slide. a shiny new one and a new DOF is a much better look and a lot better PR. for SJR unveiling.




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30 Oct 2023 07:11:55
A good post. Some big if s here but if SJR comes in and takes over the football side with his own people in place then just as any compnay getting a new owner where the business is failign you take a good hard look at the management structure.

if it all happened tomorrow and ETH was sat in front of SJR on Wednesday morning then he could expect to be told in no uncertain terms whatever your vision is its not working -we will give you the tools to fix it but if you don't very quickly you re gone.