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11 Aug 2023 14:12:18
Not heard much of a mention of Ryan Gravenberch. I seem to remember Ed02 intimated that he would be keen on a move to Utd and I imagine he would cost less than Amrabat. Seeing as we are likely losing Fred, McT and Donny, I would love to see Gravenberch come in since he can cover practcally any midfield position. Add to that he's still quite young, already knows the manager's system and most of all, is actually keen on a move.
{Ed002's Note - Ryan Gravenberch (CM/DM/AM) Versatile midfield player who only joined Bayern Munich last summer and wasn't to be for sale, unless the Head Coach decides he can join the lengthy list of players now available as he looks towards a rebuild and with Brazzo Salihamidzic being sacked that has become more likely. I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool to Bayern Munich at this time, but that may change, and Team Mino are certainly not offering him around, but they have had enquiries from a number of clubs, including Manchester City. The player is making demands about being a starter and game time and Bayern Munich have told Team Mino he can be sold. Newcastle may offer up an acceptable bid, they are certainly interested. There is interest from Italy but that may not suit the player. The player has made it clear he would like his next move to be to Manchester United and they may provide an option if available. Liverpool will likely offer another option and will have spoken with his Agents. A wildcard maybe Juventus.}
1.) 11 Aug 2023 14:25:39
Thanks for the info Ed02. Are United considering him as an option?
{Ed002's Note - It will depend on departures.}
2.) 11 Aug 2023 14:31:19
If the transfer sum isn't outrageous he's got to be a good shout to give an actual chance. Ed I know you don't like talking money but would a reasonable amount be able to acquire him or would Bayern be looking for a very high sum to sell him?
{Ed077's Note - €30m might be the ball park figure.}
3.) 11 Aug 2023 14:39:28
An absolute steal at that price.
Plays multiple positions, still young and has a very good relationship with ten hag. Will hopefully get the best out of him.
Only issue is would he come if he wasn’t a guaranteed starter?
Mount, Bruno and Casemiro will be our starting 3 so will need to to work to get them out the team.
4.) 11 Aug 2023 14:51:18
30M Euros in this day and age where midfielders are going for 105/ 110M of the queens finest seems like a real steal. Would be lovely to get both him and Amrabat but obviously the paths of Mejbri and Mainoo gets blocked which isn't nice. Thanks for the info Eds.
5.) 11 Aug 2023 15:19:00
Would much rather him than Amrabat. Granted, Amrabat is a better Cas deputy right now, but Gravenberch has a much higher ceiling. If both are priced around the €30m mark, it seems like an easy choice to me. Obviously, Ten Haag may see things differently though, especially having worked with Gravenberch at Ajax.
6.) 11 Aug 2023 23:54:19
Imagine both Arambat and Gravenberch! Wow. It’s probably doable if Mctominay leaves….
I think we need Arambat more though. We really struggled without Casemiro last season.
7.) 12 Aug 2023 10:42:44
Pavard and Gravenberch in.
Maguire, Fred, McTominay out.
Could be a big overhaul in players hopefully they gel quickly.
8.) 12 Aug 2023 13:03:57
Gravenberch is the profile of player i would like to see us target, ypung and takented, suits Ten Hag system, struggled in Germany last year but he is very young at a very comoetitive club in a new country, wouldn't read mucb into it.
Arambaat i am undecided on really, don't know much about him outside of WC and highlights if a couple of Fiorentina games.
9.) 12 Aug 2023 16:36:41
I haven't really seen him play much this year, so I may be misremembering. From what I remember though I got the impression he was more suited to be part of a double pivot with a partner who sat deeper giving him more freedom to roam and win the ball, rather than being the main defensive midfielder. Like Fred but better with the ball.
IMO we need a midfielder who can partner Casemiro when a little extra defensively, and can anchor the midfield himself with Mount as a number 8.
10.) 12 Aug 2023 17:19:30
Watch quite a bit of Ajax, under Ten Ha he played on the left side of a midfield two in front of Alvarez and alongside Berghuis. Berghuis generally the more advanced (Brhno role) and Gravenberch in what i assume is the Mount role. When the wide men drift inside he would also protect the left.
His place in the squad woukd be to cover for Mount, with Mount being the primary cover for Bruno. In truth i don't think Erikksen has the legs anymore for these roles. don't see him being much more than a sub this year and cup matches. He also is a sensibke head when needed and appears to be a good influence on the squad plus is well versed in the system.
Not saying he is a priority just he fits the profile of the type of players we should be going for.
Personally i think we are at least 2 yeara away and he can grow into the team.
11.) 13 Aug 2023 12:00:13
I really like Gravenberch, but I'm not sure he is what we need right now.
Definitely more of a No.8 than either a 6 or 10 (although he can play those roles to varying degrees) . Personally I'd say he's a more effective carrier of the ball than a passer. That's not to say he isn't an accomplished passer, just that for me his best work in progressing the ball comes from when he drops the shoulder and drives forward through a line of pressure with the ball and takes 2-3 of the opposition players out of the play. He isn't the guy to pick out a killer through ball that unlocks the opposition very often.
From that perspective I feel he is far more suited to playing as a box to box 8 given the freedom to bomb forward with the ball at his feet. As a holding player (No.6) he won't have the same freedom to drive forward with the ball, and would have to rely more heavily on his passing to effect play in possession. While defensively/ off the ball he's okay but not outstanding. Capable of making tackles etc but clearly defensive work isn't his passion.
I think we need someone who's far more comfortable playing as a No.6/ holding midfielder someone whose first instinct is to win the ball and shield the defence. Whose skillset is based on reading the game and controlling the space in front of the defence. If they can also be an expensive passer of the ball, someone who can pick out a 50 or 60 yard forward pass to open the opposition up and turn defence into attack then great.
That's not Gravenberch though.
12.) 13 Aug 2023 16:30:17
I like thuram if we can afford him, if not Ambrabat. Thuram has a super high ceiling. Watched him year live before last and thought here is a proper player and obviously getting better last year.
17 May 2023 13:10:22
Ed002, if you have the time, do Man Utd hold any interest in Gift Orban of Gent?
{Ed002's Note - Gift Orban (S) Although he has only just signed, his value is doing wonders for the club who may reluctantly cash in during the summer. Agent has spoken with Hertha Berlin and Leicester. Lille and Inter have a declared interest and plenty of scouts have been attending games.
1.) 17 May 2023 13:30:05
Thanks for your time and insight Ed. He looks quite the talent.
29 Dec 2022 08:07:16
Ed 002,
You mentioned that Utd may approach Jonathan David. Is Depay also an alternative target? Seeing as he's out of contract in the summer and isn't first choice at Barca.
{Ed002's Note - He was one of the options I listed.}
1.) 29 Dec 2022 10:42:41
Ed - are the club able to make signings in Jan or are the they only looking at loan deals?
{Ed002's Note - It depends on what they wish to do.}
2.) 29 Dec 2022 15:59:24
This is starting to whiff of Morata for 6 months.
3.) 29 Dec 2022 16:23:19
Would love a striker of Morata's mould for 6 months. Even Depay will be useful if he can come. Felix and Jonathan David I'm guessing are not going to happen.
4.) 29 Dec 2022 18:02:56
When you say ‘wish to do’ Ed, with the club up for sale, what options do you see them as having?
5.) 29 Dec 2022 13:20:00
Ed, is there anyone else you've heard recently that we may be looking at? Seems we don't have many options.
{Ed002's Note - I have said before there are a few options, but most clubs will not want disruption in the Winter.}
6.) 29 Dec 2022 20:07:07
Unruly I agree with you there on Morata. Not so much on depay.
I. Not all that fussed to get honest. I don't see a big fee being paid and unless it's a top choice then it would be daft Imo.
A loan deal for a good experienced cf could pay off. A guy like morata is used to coming off bench for big clubs and starting when required and has the knack of scoring goals.
Never prolific but weighs in with his quota regularly.
I'm sure we'll get a body but who that will be and will they make a difference is anybody 's guess.
If be happy to go with what we have and hope we get lucky with injuries.
Mad schedule ahead and if we stay in the cups we will be stretched no doubt and possibly knackered for the last 10 games when the prizes are being given out.
7.) 29 Dec 2022 20:14:24
Morata? Really? Oh dear we are in the poop.
8.) 29 Dec 2022 20:14:24
Morata? Really? Oh dear we are in the poop.
9.) 29 Dec 2022 20:56:51
I would rather Morata for a 6 mo than loan than splashing tens of millions on a makeweight permanently.
Either we get a guy that Ten Hag wants and believes is or will become the Striker he needs or we don't bother with a permanent signing, get the best loanee who will do a job in this system and look again in summer.
10.) 29 Dec 2022 21:43:07
Has to be a loan. As Ken suggests, we will run out of steam towards the end when the really crucial fixtures come up. Not to mention our only recognized striker used to be a winger, is injured half the time and isn't even good enough when he actually plays. We are absolutely desperate for a striker. We will not make top 4 without one coming in.
11.) 30 Dec 2022 07:56:39
Morata is an interesting one. Had all the technical and physical attributes to be a worldie, but he never quite seems to settle anywhere since he left Real. Seems to me that’s a mental limitation that has stopped him being an elite player. He’s not set the world alight in Madrid (at both clubs), Chelsea or Juventus.
Might be worth exploring for a loan only as a last resort, but I don't see why he’d leave his home town unless Atletico have some serious cash flow problems and need to free up some wages. Not a signing that I feel fits into what ETH is trying to do even in the short term.
06 Dec 2022 07:53:21
Ed002,
Do United still hold any interest in Gvardiol?
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 06 Dec 2022 09:08:00
Makes sense. Licha plays the same position. Thanks for the info Ed002.
29 May 2022 16:04:17
Ed002
Has Ralf Rangnick left by choice or was he forced to leave by higher ups and/ or circumstances?
{Ed002's Note - It was never be a viable position moving forward and it would have made it even more difficult for the DoF.}
1.) 29 May 2022 17:32:34
Well i guess it is for the better. Thanks for the reply Ed002.
2.) 29 May 2022 17:32:34
Well i guess it is for the better. Thanks for the reply Ed002.
3.) 29 May 2022 17:32:34
Well i guess it is for the better. Thanks for the reply Ed002.
4.) 29 May 2022 19:47:58
Ten Hag's words wouldn't have given him much encouragement. Maybe the clean break is best.
5.) 29 May 2022 20:37:18
I'm sure they were talking throughout despite their suggestions they had never met, so this news a week into ten Hag's appointment is bizarre. Maybe Ralph's opinion that we needed 10 players put the frighteners up everyone if Erik is happy to go for a couple and consolidate with youth and returning players.
6.) 29 May 2022 23:31:15
You can say that again unruly.
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27 Aug 2025 08:16:06
Hoping to see Heaven, Maguire, Mainoo, Mount, Ugarte, Sesko and Zirkzee starting today. Perfect opportunity for Sesko to get off the mark. Maybe a cameo for Chido as well. Onana ought to start. Keen to see how we approach the game. Nothing is a given with us but against a league two side, we should have too much for them.
1.) 27 Aug 2025 10:52:34
Difficult tight grounds, fans close to the pitch, raw passion, no VAR, more tasty tackles, will ref be as strict?
Often tougher than you think, remember was it Exeter a few years ago?
2.) 27 Aug 2025 11:04:14
Imagine the carnage if Grimsby knock us out.
3.) 27 Aug 2025 13:15:14
I don't even like to think about that Fallguy.
4.) 27 Aug 2025 14:17:34
Why do you want Mainoo to Mount Ugarte when u say sesko is sexy?
Sorry, couldn't resist. :P.
5.) 27 Aug 2025 16:33:05
Lol mbd calm down.
6.) 27 Aug 2025 16:34:42
I’d play the first team. They’ve barely played together and it shows. Need as much game time as possible. Might leave Bruno out for Mount/ Ugarte midfield.
31 Jul 2025 07:19:51
Set my alarm to wake up at 4:30 am and I have to say I was not disappointed. Very good performance especially from Dorgu, Hojlund, Yoro and Heaven. Amad and Bruno okay and Maguire steady. We need to replace Casemiro though, he looked a yard slower than everyone. Was curious that neither Cunha nor Mbeumo made the squad. They both need minutes with their new teammates.
Also the weather in Chicago, seemed worse than anything I've ever seen at Old Trafford.
1.) 31 Jul 2025 11:59:40
Just watched the replay this morning. The step up on intensity is clear to see. Watching players swarm around the opposition is quite refreshing. It's important that those players can also play out of those crowded areas if we win the ball back though. Casimero failed to do this a few times and Bruno also. When the opposing team comes out of these situations with the ball, we are often left exposed.
Much better though.
2.) 31 Jul 2025 13:27:15
Whilst I agree he is a yard slower Casemiro was the man breaking the lines and playing the ball forward alot. A very wet pitch he could of went and slid too far at times and got a red but he was calm Most of the time
The team is definitely starting to click and some very good intriquet passing almost sent Hojlund 1 on 1 at times.
Can Heaton not kick the ball? Pulling shaw over to kick made Yoro job harder I taught.
01 Jul 2025 10:06:36
Out of curiosity, what happened to the Man City 115 charges? Wasn't there a ruling or judgement or whatever fixed for June? I could be wrong, but I have heard nothing at all from anyone about this since the season ended.
1.) 01 Jul 2025 10:59:39
It’s pretty embarrassing from the premier league tbh… dragging it out and then letting them able to spend 350 million in 6 months while all this is hanging over them they shouldn’t have been allowed to sign any new players,
But that for me sort of gives an indication of what’s going to happen
And if it comes to just a fine what’s the point. they will lack any authority if it’s anything but points deductions.
2.) 01 Jul 2025 11:44:19
Nothing will happen. Even if they have done wrong. They've got deeper pockets than the league and they can drag it out as long as they want. They league need city's money.
3.) 01 Jul 2025 12:06:55
Can see more clubs doing the exact same if they just get a fine.
4.) 01 Jul 2025 12:26:26
I’m not sure that it’s nothing will ever happen Angel. More that City’s strategy is to keep it tied up in court for as long as possible. In this respect, the EPL were stupid to bring so many different charges. All this does is give City hundreds of avenues for appeals.
City have deep enough pockets to keep things in court for at least another decade, and will continue to spend during this time.
5.) 01 Jul 2025 12:49:25
I was going to ask the same question. If the outcome is in line with Forest and Everton etc the punishment should be draconian. If anything like Lyon they should be out of the league. But we all know that the total of sweet FA is going to happen. Bent as!
6.) 01 Jul 2025 13:22:40
You get the feeling it would have been done a lot quicker if it was a less powerful club, and that any punishment will be a few quid fine or few points deduction. Imagine the fire-sale if they were relegated, we could haggle for McAtee for 4 months.
7.) 01 Jul 2025 19:36:54
Ultimately the EPL should impose a transfer embargo on them until the outcome of these charges. Otherwise there is no reason for City to not drag this out as long as possible.
8.) 01 Jul 2025 20:58:55
Yup, imagine a sports governing body having to tiptoe around one of the clubs as much as this. Complete joke.
9.) 01 Jul 2025 21:14:24
The EPL cannot impose a transfer ban on them while the case is ongoing. That would amount to preemptive punishment, which City would immediately challenge, and all it would do is add another court case.
The EPL shot themselves in the foot by bringing so many individual charges. They obviously wanted to make a big statement, but it’s a legal error given City’s strategy. The 115 charges could have been combined into five or six overarching charges, and this would have limited City’s ability to drag things out. As it stands, all City have to do is demonstrate grounds to appeal any of the small charges (if the court rules in favour of the EPL), and the entire case will remain in stasis.
10.) 01 Jul 2025 22:09:59
Im sure it'll just be a transfer embargo and a couple of point deducted at max, hence the city spending recently. But more than likely Some brown envelopes will be presented and it'll all be forgotten about, i'm pretty sure there will be an apology from the pl/ fa aswell. After all it's not an Everton who would have been relegated to a pub team level.
{Ed025's Note - its an absolute joke Danny..
11.) 02 Jul 2025 00:23:34
So, back to the original question, anyone have a clue when the case is set to be concluded?
12.) 02 Jul 2025 17:32:56
While the wait for a verdict continues, it’s worth remembering that 115 charges is an unprecedented situation in English football. This isn’t a routine disciplinary matter, it’s a case that could reshape trust in the sport’s governance.
The independent panel must be allowed the time and space to get it right. The stakes are enormous, and whatever the outcome, whether Manchester City are cleared or punished, the consequences will be historic. Rushing a decision just to satisfy headlines would do more damage than delay ever could.
18 Nov 2024 08:25:32
When does Amorim get to start? I can't wait for the weekend.
1.) 18 Nov 2024 09:32:04
Today is his first official day I believe.
2.) 18 Nov 2024 12:41:05
I really hope he shakes things up, makes some bold selections, and stamps his mark. And if any player doesn't commit to his ways, he needs address it immediately. ETH tried with Ronaldo. and Sancho, but then let others get away with an apparent lack of effort, or poor form.
11 Nov 2024 06:34:33
How good has Mazroui been? Our best left back and right back and my signing of the summer. For that fee too is quite the steal. De Ligt too has gone about his job without much fuss which is wonderful to see. Hope to have back Maguire and Yoro back soon and a new left back in Jan for rotation.
1.) 11 Nov 2024 08:18:17
He has been very good imo.
No surprise to me.
Imo the 1st proper full back at the club since Evra left.
Just my opinion but we have not had a reliable consistent professional top class full back at the club for over 12 years.
We need 2 on each side as good as each other as the wong backs are subbed more often than anybody due to the physicality of the role under amorim. Its an area we are very weak imo.
2.) 11 Nov 2024 11:00:33
Ken, don't you think Darmien was a proper full back? Just curious.
3.) 11 Nov 2024 11:12:51
Dalot will probably play the wing back role pretty well I think. Full back is where he has problems. We need left sided wing backs/ left backs.
4.) 11 Nov 2024 12:44:15
we should be 2 point off top 4 by the time arsenal away game comes around.
Then the fixture list gets tougher after arsenal game. Forest at home, city away, Bournemouth, Wolves, NC home and Liverpool away. Funky league and any team can give someone a nose bleed on any given weekend if you don't play well. Away fixtures to the 3 best teams in the league and some tricky home games.
Need to win all our home games imo and get a result or two on the away fixtures and we should be in a good place for the year.
A full squad back will help a lot.
5.) 11 Nov 2024 12:44:35
A good player but struggled in the epl
He was too slow imo. Has done very well since like a lot of others.
6.) 11 Nov 2024 14:36:22
Dalot just not good enough for any role in the team. He makes too many mistakes and makes too many errant passes. Wing backs have to be able to defend as well and he has zero defensive awareness.
01 Jul 2025 10:10:53
It was reported that malacia chose his own treatment plan against the club's wishes. We are run poorly, but this isn't on the club.
28 Jan 2025 23:22:53
Last weekend they played Inter and Dorgu was good, arguably their best player. But they got beat proper by a vastly superior side so difficult to judge. It is the game before that which he was poor.
18 Dec 2024 21:43:55
They don't have the finances to register him.
Would Olmo though, perfect for the 10 and Barcelona seem unable to register him.
28 Oct 2024 15:09:00
First time I've ever seen someone put the goalkeeper in a formation.
13 Sep 2024 14:59:06
You are right IWOTB. Just saw an article about it.
05 Oct 2025 21:41:50
We all know who that is Supasub.
02 Sep 2025 09:12:35
They are not all whingers AJH. Maybe Antony and Sancho. Personally I always felt Rashford was better at centre forward than out on the whing ?.
27 Aug 2025 16:33:05
Lol mbd calm down.
21 Aug 2025 15:44:16
We surprise a few by finish top 4. Mbeumo to get 20 league goals.
20 Aug 2025 23:19:49
Is the password Dodgybanter by any chance ?.