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20 Jul 2023 19:36:24
Welcome Onana.
Bruno officially announced as captain and Charlie Savage off to Reading on a permanent deal.

2toms

1.) 20 Jul 2023 20:10:58
Don't forget Hardley joining Iqbal at Utrecht.

I'm loving the approach this summer, ruthless but fair.
Imagine Ole was still in charge, the likes of Iqbal and Savage would still just be getting loans that offer no value to the club or their respective careers. There's not a chance he'd let De Gea go and he'd likely still keep Maguire as captain.
ten Hag is doing the business that the previous permanent incumbent lacked the cahoonas for.

Very good summer so far.


2.) 20 Jul 2023 20:28:01
I wouldn't say ruthless, but the young fringe players moving with buyback options and decent sell on fees is a good move, we've adopted the same approach to what a lot of european clubs do. If it works we can get a good player back, or buy them back and sell for a bigger profit. Smart move by the club.

I don't think this has anything to do with ole or ten hag, I think it's more woodward going and having people that know more about transfers running that side of things.

I like what I'm seeing so far this windown.


3.) 21 Jul 2023 02:53:38
dannyc

You could be right, but I do believe that Ole is more culpable than you think.
For example, Phil Jones.
There is no way whatsoever that Woodward (every bit a money man) would see value in a player with such an incredible injury record, certainly not enough to approve a new contract in 2019 - he can't be blamed for everything.
So, is that down to Ole, a Glazer or Fergie?
In any scenario, the buck stops with the manager for it is that one person who decides whether there's game value to a player.

Woodward was crap at the job, nobody with any sense would disagree. However, he was always the go-to scapegoat for the mismanagement that was, and for the most part, is still rife throughout the club.

Ole is a likeable fella and he's a good coach who brought a certain fluffiness to the squad, but he's a terrible and timid manager who's about as maverick as a jam sandwich.


4.) 21 Jul 2023 10:17:15
ETH is making all the footballing decisions which is great.
I don't think this has happened since the Fergie era.


5.) 21 Jul 2023 10:30:23
I think if you come from outside the bubble that is MUFC like ETH has he was probably shocked at a lot of the practices like stock piling players with no futures at the club -no clear route to the first team for youngsters, so many kids that won't ever make it being kept on or sent on pointless loans and a general lack of direction in so many aspects of the club. He has to be able to have a clear out where he sees fit . let's not forget those with no previous ties to the club like JM, LVG and Ralf saw it and said publicly it was a mess of a club . Ole not so much as working in a that out dated way was all he saw when he was at O. T. he thought it was normal.


6.) 21 Jul 2023 13:35:35
I’m not quite as positive.

We have replaced one outgoing keeper with another one - we have no back up keeper.

The defence remains the same. No improved full back option at RB, and question marks over the futures of Maguire and Lindelof.

We have strengthened attacking midfield which was not a huge priority. We have no quality in depth once Casemiro is out.

Manchester United played a whole season without a recognised striker last season - and we are embarking on a tour today, still without a striker in the squad except a lad who played for Altrincham last year.

I’ll reserve judgement until the window is closed.


7.) 21 Jul 2023 20:26:31
Eric I hear what your saying, but heard that were trying for suzuki, I'm sure we will get a backup gk or keep kovar if we don't sign one.

Ten hag said were looking at a number 9 and I'm sure we will get a decent one with outgoings, we don't seem to have enough in the kitty for a decent one as it stands. With elanga moving that's another 15 million, telles for about 5, hopefully henderson will bring another 25 and one of Fred and mctominay should add around 20 or so that our money for a striker.

I also think we will save massive amounts on wages, which puts us in a good place moving forward.

I think we will have a good window and we will all be happy at the end of the season.


8.) 21 Jul 2023 20:58:57
Eric,

Have you seen Mainoo play? Think I’d like to see a player come through the academy than a shiny new signing at DM, especially as anyone coming in would be playing 2nd fiddle to Casemiro anyway.


9.) 22 Jul 2023 13:27:22
I be seen him in meaningful games as
Much as anybody else GDS. reserve and u21 games are non-comparable. If he’s that good, I’ll be delighted as anybody.


10.) 22 Jul 2023 16:51:36
Doesn’t change the fact the club have not had a striker for over 2 years and are chasing unproven players to take the No9 shirt.


 

 

20 Jun 2023 18:23:51
Zidane Iqpal off to Utrecht for £1m.

2toms

1.) 20 Jun 2023 18:57:13
Last pre-season It looked like he had the chance to be one of the next wave coming through, even if as squad player. EtH has obviously not seen anything in him to allow him to leave, whether that is fit, ability or attitude.
Shame that another youngster has not transitioned but if not the quality then it is what it is.
Price and club he has gone to seems odd.


2.) 20 Jun 2023 19:26:24
Brad, I just read he signed up to the same agency as ETH, who supposedly promised him a move to the Eridivisie.


3.) 20 Jun 2023 19:51:42
I was surprised Zidane didn't get more chances but maybe there is a bigger picture. I remember we were linked with Taylor Booth from utrecht I hope there is maybe a trade off there somehow.


4.) 20 Jun 2023 19:36:18
Noucamp, interesting. It also sounds like they have negotiated a significant sell on clause.
Maybe they are allowing a lesser fee and if he is a success we may get a decent return in a few years time.


5.) 20 Jun 2023 21:04:37
What a joke of a fee, loan him out .


6.) 20 Jun 2023 21:20:19
I’d have thought even with a decent sell on clause he’d have demanded more than that based on potential.


7.) 21 Jun 2023 08:31:10
wrd - not a great fee granted but better than keeping a player, who won't get the minutes to shine and pay him wages only to either lose for free. Multiply it by the many, younguns we have and it all adds up. We are man utd football club and as harsh as it sounds we don't have charitable status.


8.) 21 Jun 2023 12:37:29
What is the point in keeping him, it's clear that he isn't going to get any game time.
1 million EUROS for a player that has played 1 game for Manchester United is a decent amount.


9.) 21 Jun 2023 12:58:26
Would a youngster in the same position at Real, Barcelona or City command more…. I think they would. Listen, I’m all for getting rid don’t get me wrong, but it does seem we are potentially taking pittance for players when other sides are always banging a bit on.


10.) 21 Jun 2023 20:00:43
Zidane got a right earful from EtH in training a few weeks ago, seems like he had had enough and told United to get rid regardless of the fee. Manager's succeed or fail on these decisions.


11.) 21 Jun 2023 20:31:20
Well let's see if he does achieve anything in his career.


 

 

27 May 2023 21:48:42
Diogo Costa, Kim Min Jae, Frimpong, and Kane would be a fantastic summer window.

2toms

1.) 28 May 2023 05:09:10
Rather get a midfielder over frimpong.


2.) 28 May 2023 08:08:04
100% backpass, with Casemiro and Eriksen being 31 (turning 32) next season and with only Fred, McTominay and Donny as back up, that is nowhere near good enough and we have struggled when one of Casemiro or Eriksen are missing.

Whereas, Dalot and even AWB (after the WC) have been solid enough.


3.) 28 May 2023 08:09:12
midfielder definitely coming in imo. depending on departures might see 2 incoming unless club thinks someone from youth ranks is ready to step in and get minutes.


4.) 28 May 2023 11:44:18
I don't see a change at GK or maybe RB at least this summer.
Although I think he should definitely be the main target this window I don't think Levy will sell Kane for less than around £120m which becomes unviable. Bayern paid up to £34m (with add-ons) for Mane, of course he was worth much more but Liverpool knew he'd walk away for free at the end of the season. I don't think we can expect any such favours from Levy. I genuinely think he'd rather keep him than take the more realistic £70-80m, and spend the season trying to convince him to stay.
I have no idea who should be the main striker target in this scenario. I haven't seen enough of Muani or Ramos. Osimhen comes up a lot but maybe the wrong type of player. Interestingly Chelsea are still being linked with pretty much all of them. They still have Lukaku to deal with, and have Nkunku coming in who is a great player. Still no further to having a reliable out-and-out no.9 though. Maybe Poch is a Lukaku fan.
I don't think we can scrimp in this position. Ferguson/ Hjoland would be nice as secondary signings or further afield but not as the main man.


5.) 28 May 2023 12:25:18
Spenno, in 33 days time DDG will be out of contract. As will both Heaton and Butland (loan ended) . While Henderson is only interesting in staying if he is guaranteed to be No.1, so he will likely leave.

So, with a good chance that at least three if not all four first team goalkeepers leaving this summer I'd be stunned and utterly flabbergasted if we didn't sign at least one keeper this summer.

Whether we spend big on a first choice or whether we buy a cheaper back up keeper is the only thing that is really up for debate.


6.) 29 May 2023 16:02:44
Isnt DDG signing a 2 year extension and we are signing Meslier?


 

 

20 Aug 2022 20:02:56
Apologies if this has been covered but can anyone confirm if this Casemiro deal was a long running thing or right out of the blue?

2toms

{Ed002's Note - Casemiro had been offered to a couple of Premier League clubs including MU and given all prefered targets were moving elsewhere, not available or not interested, they agreed the transfer.


1.) 21 Aug 2022 13:11:30
Was rabiot ahead of Casemiro on that pecking order?

{Ed002's Note - He had not been offered at that point.}


2.) 21 Aug 2022 13:48:29
Ed with the signing of Casemiro does it mean we are not pursuing Frenkie anymore?


Or are they unrelated, and have we moved onto second options since Frenkie doesn't want to come to us?

Thanks a million ed.

{Ed002's Note - They are unrelated as they play in different positions. de Jong does not wa nt to move to Manchester United.}


3.) 21 Aug 2022 13:54:24
Cheers Ed, I thought it all seemed too efficient for our board to pull off.
Any chance we’re being offered a striker, midfielder, right back and goalkeeper?


4.) 21 Aug 2022 14:06:32
Ed002, was Casemiro being offered around a directive from Real Madrid or from the player?

{Ed002's Note - The club who are loking to lower the age and have added AT.}


5.) 21 Aug 2022 15:04:48
Ed so th3 club hasn't moved on yet. That is pathetic and I think we should just go all out for SmS.


6.) 21 Aug 2022 15:06:14
Ed002,

1. Are United still looking to add another central midfielder right as an alternative to Frenkie De Jong?

2. Or are the club prioritizing other positions like winger/ striker and another central midfielder signing is unlikely?

3. Are reports of a 80mil euro bid by United for Antony in recent weeks accurate?

{Ed002's Note -
1. Yes
2. It doesn't wok like that.
3. Yes.


7.) 21 Aug 2022 15:50:08
Thanks ed. I'm happy to hear that there will be more incomings.


8.) 21 Aug 2022 19:19:45
Ed - who are the possible other midfielders the club will look to sign?

{Ed014's Note - Tielemens and Ward Prowse! ???


9.) 21 Aug 2022 19:39:29
The worrying thing is I could see that happening!

{Ed014's Note - I’d doubt it mate to be honest, I don’t really think they’re that daft.

We’re supposed to be after a couple more but literally no idea who they’re looking at and to be honest I’m never bothered about stuff like that I just wait and see.


10.) 21 Aug 2022 18:55:03
Thanks for the quick reply Ed002. If we can come out of this window with midfield surgery and a forward/ right back I'd consider it a success.


 

 

29 Jul 2022 15:38:03
I really hope the rumours of Fabián Ruiz are true. I've thought for a while he'd be a decent player to have in the Premier league. He'd be a very suitable replacement for Matic.
I get that Ten Hag wants FDJ at all costs etc but if we could get Ruiz for the reported £42m then it's a no brainer. Very good player.

2toms

1.) 29 Jul 2022 15:53:08
I tend to agree and think he'd be a suitable alternative to FDJ if that deal isn't able to be concluded.

Personally I think Fabian Ruiz better fits EtH than SMS who is another of the often touted alternatives. Although personally I feel that SMS is much like Pau Torres, a club target the predates EtH and might not be some the new manager really wants to pursue.

Or at least Fabian Ruiz's skillset more closely aligns with that of FDJ.

If we could do a deal that includes Ronaldo then that could be a two birds with one stone situation.


2.) 29 Jul 2022 16:01:20
I wouldn’t mind both players to be honest. Two different midfielders who would both instantly improve our team.
Savic definitely does seem like a club target though.


3.) 29 Jul 2022 20:03:30
Shappy. Why would CR7 go to Napoli? Although they are in CL they may be packed in a group of death and chance of finishing 3rd in the group is high. So effectively CR7 will again play in Europa league in few months time. Atleast in United he is on insane wages, he has to reduce his wages if he goes to Napoli.
He probably prefer a team who has high chance of going far in the CL or even winning it.

{Ed014's Note - what he prefers and what those clubs in with a chance of winning the champions league want are two totally different things.


4.) 29 Jul 2022 20:20:52
Don't think anyone cares what you think personally shappy. Think they are more concerned with what the manager thinks. And rightly so, whoever he asks for, should be attempted to be attained.


5.) 29 Jul 2022 20:43:01
Jeez RedWhiskey, there's no need for that.


6.) 30 Jul 2022 07:47:25
Wow RedWhiskey, whose p. ed in your Macallen?

If we're not going to give opinions then this site will become very slow.

I didn't say the club should sign Ruiz, just that in my opinion he is closer in style of play to FDJ than SMS is. Which if we are looking for an alternative to FDJ then Ruiz would make more sense than SMS.

I've repeatedly said that the best signings we can make this summer are the ones the new manager wants.

However, that said the reality is his top target FDJ might not be attainable this summer. So alternatives will probably need to be sought. Obviously an alternative that the manager approves of.


7.) 30 Jul 2022 17:47:16
It's been one of themes of this summer, it doesn't matter what XYZ thinks its the managers choice that's important.


8.) 30 Jul 2022 19:59:26
I didn't mean it in any malice. Simply that what is most important is getting who the manager wants. Rumours are flying around everywhere and we all jump on them I'd like this I'd like that. Ultimately it doesn't matter who we want, it matters who the manager wants.


9.) 30 Jul 2022 21:43:15
Don't worry RedWhiskey, I didn't take it personally. I agree that the most important thing is we sign who the manager wants.

I just enjoy discussing the other options we are linked with.


10.) 31 Jul 2022 16:26:29
My biggest worry is TH is fixated with Ajax or Dutch players, I appreciate he needs to get the players he wants, but I would have hoped he had a dossier on players of other teams countries…that to me is a little of a worry…. We seen with DVB who was supposedly good at Ajax over hear is is very poor and he had plenty of chances….


11.) 31 Jul 2022 17:31:31
We have 2 Dutch players in the squad, one of them is Chong who has been here for years. Obsessed.


12.) 31 Jul 2022 17:52:05
Yeah god forbid we bring players from the Eredivisie to United, it'd be terrible to have to watch players like RvN, RvP, Stam, Park etc at United.


13.) 31 Jul 2022 18:13:30
Oh yeah but you forgot, Depay, Patrick Kluivert, Meijer, Boogers, Janssen,
DVB, . But Brains that’s not what I am saying is it, I’m saying every player he linked with is Ajax/ Dutch could just be lazy jounos but there are other players out there instead of making Ajax the richest club in the world!


 

 

 

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12 May 2025 11:49:31
With all the debate about Amorim and how poor we've been, I think the bottom line is, whether we win the Europa or not he's here next season. In his own words, if next season starts as bad and there is no improvement then he'll either walk or get sacked.

He's put it to the board in his last press conference that they need to be brave this summer. To me that's him asking to be backed fully.

Personally, I don't see his style working in the PL. We're sitting just above the relegation places, losing week after week. It's not a good look regardless of our European jaunt.
I would love to be proved wrong and for Amorim to show us his real talent as a manager but as yet I've seen nothing.

2toms

1.) 12 May 2025 12:19:35
As I've said before, we do not have a CF who scores goals, nor do we have a good enough GK all of which would make a huge difference. How many times has Garnacho blasted the ball over or failed to play a simple pass. This is just the hangover from EtH. The Utd job isn't an easy one. Having Rashford sulk like a teenager didn't help.


The problem that the club has, is that the players that have been brought have been poor, whilst being paid vast amounts of money. We are where we deserve to be.


2.) 12 May 2025 12:20:43
Let’s face the truth. It’s highly likely he will be gone by Xmas.

The team has been awful since he took charge. Some luck and individual moments have got him the few league wins he’s managed so far.

Due to finances it’s not looking promising for a lot of new players in the summer. Even if he manages to get 4 or so of his players in, it would be some turnaround to go from relegation form to top 8 form. And that assumes the other teams don’t improve, which they likely will.

The facts are he’s not managed to get the players performing, and ultimately that’s his job. Doesn’t help himself with the stubbornness of never changing formations and some of his team selections.

And if you’re honest with yourself, there’s a huge amount of luck involved in the europa league to get him to the final. Nobody can be surprised if spurs easily turn us over in the final, as they have done in the previous 3 games this season.


3.) 12 May 2025 13:53:28
I think the notion that we've played better in Europe is nonsense. We may be undefeated but the opposition has been weak. Spurs will be by far the best side we've faced IMO. In Prem terms, we are a poor side. We have one outstanding player who divides the fan-base. I can imagine his critics scowling at this notion but I believe many top sides would take Fernandes, We've got maybe a handful of very good younger players like Mainoo, Garnacho and Yoro who'd most probably thrive elsewhere away from the spotlight. Even a few months ago to label ourselves as a mid-table side was hard to stomach. But the table doesn't lie, and we deserve to be where we are. Two places above the relegated sides, along with our next European opponents. It doesn't sound right at all, but years of chop-changing without getting the right manager or signings from both clubs has put us where we are, while 'smaller' clubs around us have risen to the challenge with plans and more suitable managers and incredible below-the-radar signings that we seem unable to unearth ourselves. It has to be said that the same personnel would most likely fail under the spotlight of our club. The shirt hangs heavy.
And yet, we have this incredible chance to win something next week that will have a massive impact on our direction in the coming seasons. Even though Spurs have already done us over more than once this season, I think Maddison's absense tips it in our favour.
I don't expect the whole thing to suddenly just click once a few of the round holes are filled with round pegs, but even a couple of strong signings who tick all the boxes will have a big impact. Fingers (and everything else) crossed for next week, because if it gets any worse I genuinly don't know the answers. If there is any danger at all of him leaving, it has to be before they once again fork out £400m on new players then realise it's still not working. Every signing has to be nailed on.


4.) 12 May 2025 14:55:26
MH, 40 games later, still blaming ETH.


5.) 12 May 2025 15:14:15
Hojland missed 2 sitters yesterday that the likes of Kane, salah, even Watkins or a Vardy score


You can’t win games with the forwards we have they are crap.

And then when you have linder and maguire at the back and 2 keepers that let’s face it are just as bad as each other we are always going to concede.


6.) 12 May 2025 15:31:47
It was all Ole's fault, now it's ETH's fault.


7.) 15 May 2025 23:14:12
It is ETHs fault he was the driving force behind this open hesrt surgery rebuild which now needs burnt and rebuilt again him who thought gash like Martinez Hoijlund Onana etc could cut it in the big leagues cheers for the FA Cup but mans legacy was the worst rebuild iv ever seen at a football club perhaps setting the club on a downward spiral it might never recover from guys was a fraud and a crook lined his brothers agency pockets left us with a europa league ervedise squad . If Amo fails a fair bit of that's THs fault Amo might be gash but didn't have much to build on no decent forward awful keeper pensioners in midfield defenders that turn slower than an oil tanker.


 

 

29 Apr 2025 21:11:57
In our search for a striker in the summer, it could be worth looking at Vlahovic at Juventus. I've just read this evening that they would be willing to off load him in the summer for a reduced fee due to him not lowering his wages.

He's not exactly been pulling up any trees this season but there's no doubt he a bit of quality about him. Strong, holds the ball up really well as a no.9 and knows where the net is.

If we're working on a tight budget and could get him for £25-30m it could be a good option.

2toms

1.) 29 Apr 2025 23:09:02
The wages being the problem, we are trying to stop all that out of hand nonsense.


2.) 30 Apr 2025 07:34:17
Please no. Not another centre forward who can't score goals.


 

 

28 Apr 2025 22:01:35
Not sure how true the links to the young lad at River Plate, Mastantuono, are but he's scored a beauty of a free kick against Boca.
Only 17 years old. Looks hell of a player already.

2toms

1.) 29 Apr 2025 18:28:57
He's supposed to be very highly rated. Obviously like most I've not seen much of him bar the odd clip and one game. It's a massive step up moving to Europe though. I'd imagine the tried and trusted route via Portugal at a club like Benfica makes the most sense for him. Especially given his age.


2.) 29 Apr 2025 19:14:36
He'll be nabbed up by the likes of City or Barcelona and left to develop at River Plate for another season I reckon.


 

 

13 Apr 2025 22:44:15
3 points off 17th in the league. Let that sink in.
I don't care what anyone says, but ETH and Ole weren't even this bad.

I absolutely hate the idea of changing manager again but this guy isn't the answer.
Forget this 'style of play' bulls##t. He's setting this team up week in, week out. We're outplayed and out classed by literally every team we face and the few highlights this season have been when our backs are really up against the wall and we've pulled off some underdog performances.

The players aren't up to standard but so far neither is this manager.

2toms

1.) 13 Apr 2025 23:17:49
2toms you have just answered your own post

“The players aren't good enough”

This is a pop at your btw

But let’s be real these player bar I would say 5 at most in the whole squad cannot play any system or any formation you can see it week in week out some players simply are not good enough for this club

Im sick to death of hearing people moaning about “these players can’t play the way Amorim wants they can’t play 3 at the back

The system isn’t not the issue it’s the players and untill the core of the crap are replaced it doesn’t matter what manager comes in.

Answer me this right, pep comes in to this team do you think he would change the way he wants to play to suit the players or would he play his way and replace the players who cannot play that way?

Would Klopp change the way he wants to play or replace the players that can’t fit the way he wants to play?

We Brought ten hag in beciase he played good football that was front foot and attacking possession based and what did he do a few games into it? He changed his style to suit the players becoase he was to afraid to change

What did we actually achieve under ole? Because we had a fair few games where we looked good and had the odd good game against city?

City have always struggled against us when we sit deep and play counter football we did it for years under fergie against Arsenal.

We won naf all with ole and played a style of football that won us nothing and people seem to have short memories of how bad we were under ole we got hammered in games

And some of those players are still here now, no coincidence is it?

How can you change the culture and philosophy if we have the same trash that’s been here since ole, Jose, ralf. ten hag.

Bear in mind Amorim has had 1 player a kid who’s what 20? 22…


People were calling out for ten hag to be booted and we’re buzzing when Amorim came in…

Look again today the goals we conceded, 3 were mistakes by the players and 1 came from poor decision making with a pass.

We’ve got forwards who are championship level and some expect us to be doing better

Look at the stats how many players have scored 10 league goals?


This squad that’s been assembled is pants. the worst Manchester United in prem history and it’s been assembled by idiots and a guy has come in and you can see what he wants to play (we all cried out for a way of playing btw, there’s 100s of posts on here demanding it)

It’s pretty obvious what the issue is. and it isn’t the manager.

But hey let’s get rid of him when he’s not had the chance to do a thing.


2.) 13 Apr 2025 23:32:19
Both of you are right. but these players just get worse and worse. 14th in mid April is absolutely shocking on -7 goal difference. let's face it, utd is dead thanks to the glazers and the rat.


3.) 14 Apr 2025 00:11:49
NOT a pop. auto correct sorry pal.


4.) 14 Apr 2025 00:38:27
Nick,

United aren’t dead at all, what a ludicrous statement after a bad season, we got Amorim mid season knowing full well what could happen, he quite clearly selected a team today with Thursday in mind and quite rightly, I don’t think any team in the premier league wins a game with Lindelof and Eriksen playing 90 minutes in 2025, Amorim knows that but also knows they won’t play a minute on Thursday.


5.) 14 Apr 2025 05:30:42
The season was gone ages ago RA knew this like we all did, he is not blind, all his eggs are in Europa basket, he got no choice but to try for that and forget all else, even that’s going to be a huge task with this bunch and no striker

It should never have been allowed to get to United having no strikers apart from Rasmus, who was never good enough, but none of that or this awful squad that’s been assembled is RA thought, he just got given these cards

I admire him for sticking to his guns and clearly wrote the season off, he probably could have changed won maybe a game or two, but what would that have achieved, he got his principles, so stick with him or the idiots above can start over again!


6.) 14 Apr 2025 06:59:49
For the first time we have a manager who has a style of play, stands by it, sees the players for what they are, not good enough. Once we had two top keepers now none, once four top strikers, now none. Once we had midfield players who would get in all time teams, now none.

Wake up to Glazer utopia, this mess is 15 plus years of no value by SAF who left a mess followed by Hollywood productions buying players who sounded nice.

At some point it needed what SAF did in the 80’s, and now it’s happening. We have a very good young coach, who is changing things that needed doing. If Ratcliffe and co don’t give him time then utter shame on them for being the same level of idiots they replaced. He needs time and the insanity of appointing Ole made us worse not better.


7.) 14 Apr 2025 07:57:36
All his eggs are in the Europa basket? What a shocking thing to say. What if your Europa basket turns into a Europa defeat?
The idea is to finish as high in the League as possible?
Do you think this man will get you to another League title? and if so, when?
You can count yourselves lucky that there are 3 or 4 teams worse than you, else you'd be in the bottom 3
Keep on about his system. His system is sh#te, and that's why you find yourselves where you are with a manager that is out of his depth.


8.) 14 Apr 2025 07:59:11
Bolger3, I haven’t answered anything. I wasn’t asking any questions. I was just ranting my thoughts on the current state of things.

Manchester United shouldn’t be righting off seasons. The manager and players are paid handsomely to be competitive.


9.) 14 Apr 2025 08:13:03
And what exactly are his principles @Germansppclub?


10.) 14 Apr 2025 09:38:35
German your spot on why change to something that he won’t play next season just to get a few extra wins?

We are to impatient as a fan base it’s ridiculous we’ve been poor for over a decade won the odd cup here and there so why all of a sudden are we demanding to be challenging now…

Even when we got the likes of weghorst on loan and igahlo it’s been happening for years money has been spent in the wrong areas consistently and now look


Makes 0 sense to blame the manager when the group he’s inherited and made up of the last 3 managers players

It is laughable.


11.) 14 Apr 2025 10:36:36
Totally agree Red Man.

Amorim came in mid season to a complete mess: players with no physicality brought in by different managers.

Yet we are starting to see the fruits of his coaching already with the vague resemblance of a tactical system (even though players not up to implementing it)

Give Amorim the players he needs in the Summer and move on those unable to fit his system.

Bring in younger, physical players who want to achieve, not just take a well paid semi retirement at Inited.

I firmly believe that, given the right players, we’ll make top 4 next year.


12.) 14 Apr 2025 10:59:20
Top 4 next year? I love the optimism, and I do believe that a couple of solid signings in the key positions would improve things tremendously. But top 4, when we need at least half a dozen better players, when every other team is also going to improve, and when our budget rests on winning the Europa which is the difference between signing a few decent players or rummaging around in the bargain buckets all summer. such a drastic turnaround sounds like the stuff of fairytales to me, but bring it on!


13.) 14 Apr 2025 11:32:01
Top 4 next year? I'm struggling to see any green shoots right now, there's the odd 20 minutes but generally we look poor. I think this will be a long hard slog.


14.) 14 Apr 2025 12:01:49
If you look at the ever growing quality of the league, it gets harder every year. There’s at least 8 sides better than us so aiming for that 6-8 place would be the height of my ambition for next season. Just being honest.


15.) 14 Apr 2025 12:05:13
No chance of top 4 next season, we need to get our targets, bed them in and build a team, that won’t happen in a summer transfer window.

What we need to see on that pitch is a team that plays for one another, it’s been a rarity over the last few seasons.

Honestly I was hoping Amorim would have had more of an impact, maybe more is happening behind the scenes than we realise, but next season could be an issue if we continue like this.


16.) 14 Apr 2025 19:36:18
Style? I really struggle to see a style of play.


17.) 15 Apr 2025 04:21:49
Whats the point in his style of play if it dosent work and requires another full rebuild after THs full rebuild to see if it works with 11 new players why do UTD always do things the hard way picking these unknown hipsters like TH and Amo who think they're reinventing the wheel with there systems . Hopefully his rebuild will be better than THs whos was borderline criminal imo to line his brothers agency pockets.


 

 

02 Apr 2025 07:39:05
Are the board going to trust Amorim with the rebuild needed?
I can't think of one player who has improved under him.

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1.) 02 Apr 2025 07:48:35
2 toms you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear

Under RA play and patterns and identity is coming, more than nearly 3 years under ETH

But we have the worst front line in the epl, even teams at the bottom at least have 1 goal scorer we have none, we have CBs with zero pace a clown as GK

Virtually every player been bought under ETH is just not good enough.


2.) 02 Apr 2025 07:55:42
I certainly expect the board to be right behind Amorim. If they aren’t then they are a bunch of utter clowns.
We have an excellent young tactically intelligent coach having to use players who were terribly selected for a different regime. We played good football last night but there has been a serious issue in the penalty area. How can we have no dangerous goal scoring striker and the 32 yr old centre half look more active in the box than two players costing over £100m in total.
I hope that whichever idiot thought those two were the answer is no longer making decisions at the club.


3.) 02 Apr 2025 08:56:15
I don't think they'll get rid of him this season whatever happens, whether we crash out the Europa in the next few weeks or not. But this time in a year if we're still sat in 13th I'd be surprised if he's still here.
It's crucial Utd win the Europa league. If not we'll be scraping around free transfers and Liam Delap and I don't see us vastly improving our situation in the midterm. Not that there's not value in a few of these players, for example Gomes and David who both walk into the team, but we need a better calibre of player. Of course you need developmental players, but we have too many and none of them are developing. We need a bit of experience.


4.) 02 Apr 2025 10:31:34
The board absolutely have faith in Amorim, he is their man and I genuinely think there is an understanding of where we are currently and what needs to be done.
Players out, different type of players (attributes) in and a change in philosophy/ style that takes a while to bed in.
We need to end the season in a positive vein and I think there are improvements in performance. Hopefully we can get something in the Europa.


5.) 02 Apr 2025 12:46:01
Yes they are 2toms. They are crazy if they don't.


6.) 02 Apr 2025 19:09:21
Liam Delap would be an agreed signing once Ipswich are relgated.


7.) 03 Apr 2025 12:27:55
TH absolutely shafted UTD with his signings to line his brothers agencys pockets not 1 good signing but that's the culture at UTD let the manager dictate the style of football signings etc the cult of manager is huge at UTD not just with the fans looks like its going to be the same with Amorin be an expensive rebuild to see if his style of play will work in a tough league like England a big gamble tho tbf TH didn't leave anything for him to build on never seen a team anywhere play like his UTD couple of trophies but his ultimate legacy was leaving an awful squad and an empty bank account behind easily the most damaging manager UTD got post Fergie hate TH.


8.) 03 Apr 2025 16:26:11
. and breath lol.


 

 

 

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17 Apr 2025 11:05:16
We’ll miss his goals….

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13 Jan 2025 18:53:18
Is that rumour or inside info Ahmad?
Great news if we can. If Rashford goes, we 100% need to be looking at a forward.
We need goals in this team.

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02 Jan 2025 21:35:02
Give this man Ashworth’s job….

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17 Dec 2024 19:37:14
Hopefully a striker and left back.
Osimhen would be worth a punt if we could shift Rashford on. At lb I’d like us to go for Kerkez.

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28 Oct 2024 19:51:29
Looks like he’ll be here sooner than everyone thought and the board are willing to pay £8.3m release clause.

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16 May 2025 22:17:14
If we could afford it, I’d add Osimhen to that list of’maybe’ troublesome characters who I’d 100% want in our team next season.
He’s just had an exceptional season on loan at Galatasaray.

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16 May 2025 21:46:55
United Addict, what about those overly emotional fans who pay a lot of money to follow United home and away. Are they allowed to get their knickers in a little bit of a twist if our team roles over and gets their bellies tickled again.

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25 Apr 2025 17:59:34
Dorgu is raw and still finding his feet. If we want to progress under Amorims system, Dalot needs to be gotten shot of. He’s not good enough.

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25 Apr 2025 12:24:19
Ports, The problem with Højlund is he was never a £70m player. We paid way over the odds for him.

I’d go all out for Osimhen this summer, and if possible David on a free as Red man has said above. We need quality up top badly.

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23 Apr 2025 10:35:47
Tumbleweed, no I don’t see improvement at all. I fully understand these are not Amorims players. I also understand that the board are now making drastic changes behind the scenes to rectify years of inconsistency.
I also can see that week in, week out we are being outplayed by most teams. Our set up is appalling.
I don’t just have this blind faith that Amorim will turn out to be this master tactician when so far his system has proven to be rubbish in the PL.
If that makes me one of the idiots then so be it.
Pass me the dunce hat and next time I watch us play I’ll just pretend everything’s going in the right direction and we’re not languishing in 14th.

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