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18 Apr 2020 13:43:30
Ed002 do you have any thoughts/ comments on the rumours that Paul Pogba has already or is gong to renew his contract at Manchester United?

nellym

{Ed002's Note - I know nothing of such rumours but his options are not good and Manchester United have no so far been open to taking players in part exchange.}


1.) 18 Apr 2020 15:17:48
I would be quite happy to see the back of Pogba but if there are no takers what can we do? We should be looking for the best possible deal and if that involves a player from one of the interested clubs than so be it, but it should be on our terms.

I don't think the fee for Pogba would be much more than we paid for him. Considering Madrid may break the transfer record this summer and Juventus will probably off load a few of their 800 central midfielders they own, 80 million isn't a lot for Pogba. They obviously don't have him that high on their wishlist and I don't blame them. His talent isn't good enough to warrant all the B. S. that comes with him.

{Ed002's Note - Generally I agree, but the last three years he has not shown himself to be an £80M player when compared to the likes of Fabian Ruiz or Saul who would command a similar fee - or indeed the likes of Frenkie de Jong who would cost less.}


2.) 18 Apr 2020 16:55:19
We're not the best at negotionating deals for players, but if Pogba wants to go up a level and join Juventus or Madrid, then I don't think we should be bullied over the price.

As you said ed, his form over the last few years hasn't warranted the price tag we would want. But he can't have his cake and eat it too. Can't take the piss, dropping in and out of the team, nigly injuries that keep him out longer than Andre Gomes and still expect to get his dream move at a cut price.

He needs to go, but we need to draw a line in the sand the way every other club does when we try and buy someone.

If we can't get the money we want them we should at least be creative and look at their players that would be willing to make the move to us.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United have shown they are not willing to draw a line across to date.}


3.) 18 Apr 2020 17:01:41
Personally I think around 60m is probably fair for a player who we over paid for initially and who hasn't performed often enough. Add in to it that he will have one year left on his contact in the summer then 60m seems about right.

That said I can't see the club being prepared to take a loss on him. However, letting him leave on a free would look worse.


4.) 18 Apr 2020 17:19:02
Id love to see a list of players that we have sold for a profit in the last 30 years. I wouldn't say it's particularly long.

Ed is there anyone off the top of your head that would improve us and would be open to joining in a part exchange?

{Ed002's Note - Dybala.}


5.) 18 Apr 2020 17:36:05
Mumbles, I don't think we are a side that looks to turn a profit from players. We tend to either sign young promising players (often for inflated fees) who either fulfil their potential and stay with us until they are over 30, and their value has dropped, or they don't live up to the expectation. other than that we tend to sign top players in their prime.

Either way the value the have to us is out on the pitch, we but to get the best out of them, then sell when they are over their peak and declining.

Other clubs that need to make money on player sales in order to stay a float operate in a different way to us.

Ed002, I though Dybala was happy now at Juventus and wants to stay?


6.) 18 Apr 2020 18:37:02
I'm not disagreeing with you Shappy and i'd imagine that's exactly the line the club would want out there. The fact remains that Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus, Bayern, Liverpool, Chelsea and City all get very good money for their players.

Now the argument that we sell players when they're over the hill or in decline isn't a valid one. I personally think we have a history of keeping players on well after they've started to decline.

Look at any of those clubs listed above, they nearly always make off like bandits with their players that are surplus to requirements.

We fall way behind the top clubs in regards to our transfer dealings.


7.) 18 Apr 2020 17:54:58
Another saga awaits us then whenever the transfer window opens (God knows when that will be) . There will be nothing but rumours, counter rumours and fake quotes. I'll take my info from Ed002 and leave it at that. Just hope they can all work the situation out for everyone's benefit.


8.) 18 Apr 2020 20:29:16
Pjanic would be my pick.


9.) 18 Apr 2020 21:07:52
The club have only two options.

Option 1, sell him this summer for whatever they can get for him. Be that straight cash or a player + cash deal.

Option 2, keep him for the final year of his contract and let him leave on a free next summer.


So the only question that they should be asking themselves is whether one year of Pogba's services are worth more than the best offer they receive this summer.


10.) 18 Apr 2020 21:54:35
There's an option for a further year. Contract up until 2022 if we want. Not that activating that year extension would be smart but his length left shouldn't be used against us. Though holding a player against their will isn't the greatest welcoming mat for future players.


11.) 18 Apr 2020 22:18:55
Or maybe he shows just what a great player he can be with greater quality around him. Bruno Fernandes possibly Sancho/ Grealish added to the growing influence of Rashford and martial and the future of this team looks very bright. If we add consistency to our game we may see a title challenge.


12.) 18 Apr 2020 22:41:14
I think everyone skipped over what you replied ed002. I would take dybala in a straight swap if he was willing to join. Was he close to joining last season, I think we had talks with juventus about him.

{Ed002's Note - Right now he is getting on with the coach but I cannot see he would be interested.}


13.) 19 Apr 2020 10:03:59
Nothing has changed imo really don't see pogba leaving.


14.) 19 Apr 2020 21:42:13
Hey Ed002,

Thanks for your input as usual.
Did you tease that Frenkie de Jong is available this summer?
{Ed002's Note - Generally I agree, but the last three years he has not shown himself to be an £80M player when compared to the likes of Fabian Ruiz or Saul who would command a similar fee - or indeed the likes of Frenkie de Jong who would cost less. }
If so is United aware of it and possibly interested?
Thanks for clarifying this.

{Ed002's Note - I didn’t say he is available.}


15.) 22 Apr 2020 09:30:09
Pogba has consistently shown that he just doesn't get it. Fernandez came into the same squad that Pogba has been part of for years and instantly transformed the team because he applied his talent and inspired others to up their game.

Pogba has probably about the same talent but he doesn't have the right mental attitude to be a good footballer. So what we see is what he is; actually a pretty crap footballer because he is always ineffective despite his talent because he doesn't know how to apply it.

The comparison and contrast between Fernandes and Pogba is really helpful because it clearly highlights how rubbish Pogba is. If the club can get £40 million for him with a year left on his contract, plus get his wages of the books then they should jump at the chance.


16.) 23 Apr 2020 18:29:08
So he has the best stats every season overall since he's been at the club excluding this season which he hasn't played much. But he's the one you would want to get out of the club.

He makes the pfa team wins the Europa league player of the tournament and scores in the final but he's the one you would rather get rid of.

It's my opinion but I see him signing a new contract at Utd.


 

 

 

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02 Jul 2019 17:30:03
Are most of the fans on this site full time scouts as most players were linked to someone on here suggests there are better players. I’m not having a go i’d just like it explained why so and so is a much better player than whoever we’re rumoured to be signing, or is it a case where YouTube has been watched or the stats on footy manager or fifa were somewhat derogatory on a Longstaff or a maguire so there must be better players. I mean I watch a lot of football but it’s mainly English or Spanish league the way some fans go on here they watch every league going and have a view on no matter who. If that’s the case then more fool me for questioning your knowledge but then I’d say get a life.

nellym

{Ed002's Note - Well, Whoever has no left foot at all. Which accounts for why he falls over a great deal.}


1.) 02 Jul 2019 18:04:28
nellym if you must know I've taken truro from the brink of knowhere to world dominance.


2.) 02 Jul 2019 18:58:18
You watch English and Spanish leagues but if anyone's watches another league then you tell them get a life,
Your post is worse than any other poster having a view on any player from any league.
This is what the sites about, there is a discussion page on here as well.
Football fans take interest in other players and other leagues.


3.) 02 Jul 2019 19:35:09
I agree Leahy but the way some posters go on they’ve seen every player in the world. I don’t post that often I mainly read the info from the editors I’m guessing your a fifa type of guy.


4.) 02 Jul 2019 19:54:22
No I hardly know every player in the Premier league, so I wouldn't even guess about players in other leagues,
I'd know the players in the big teams in the Spanish, Italian, German leagues, but to be honest I wouldn't have a clue about the lesser teams in those leagues.


5.) 02 Jul 2019 21:24:26
So no full time scouts then. So if our scouts deem the likes of Longstaff the type of player ole should have then perhaps we should trust them.


6.) 02 Jul 2019 21:56:07
I would be happy if we signed longstaff, seems a good player with a great heart and passion for the game.


7.) 02 Jul 2019 23:35:41
Nelly,

Seems like you are just after an argument here mate, there are plenty of people on here who are knowledgable on different players and everyone has (and is entitled to) an opinion. I’m very much someone who uses this site for info on players, I rarely give my opinion on anyone outside the premier league as I only watch premier league football, so if there’s someone on here who can tell me about Bruno Fernandes or someone else we are linked with then that’s great.


 

 

06 May 2019 11:08:36
Is anyone else worried by the fact Solskjaer has tried so many different formations/ tactics. Normally a manager has his way of playing in a set formation and sticks with it so the players get used to it.

I know injuries have maybe hampered his plan a little but to change from week to week is a little concerning, I'm hoping ole succeeds and in no way am I defending the players but how likely are we to see any rhythm in our play if we change the way we play game to game.

nellym

1.) 06 May 2019 11:47:31
Not at all. We have a fractured squad who are either unable or unwilling to play in certain ways. So as a manager you have no choice but to try and work out a different way to get the results.

Give him the summer to move some players out, bring some new players in and to work with the side during pre-season. Then judge if there is any improvement next season.

People need to remember Pep didn't win the title in his first season as City manager. Even with a pre-season behind him to drill his players, an almost unlimited budget, buying 8+ new players was he able to get his side playing perfectly. It took arguably the best manager in the world, with a very good squad to start with 500m plus buying 15 new players, and two whole seasons to create a winning side.

Yet people are hanging Ole out to dry after half a season with a terrible squad, no money and no chance to bring in or ship out even one player.


2.) 06 May 2019 11:48:22
It's hard to have a consistent team and formation when

1. The team is crap
2. We have no squad depth.


3.) 06 May 2019 12:07:05
Well said shappy.


4.) 06 May 2019 12:11:40
That’s a good shout Shappy. Ole Solskjaer has to be given time now. I think it was a mistake announcing him before the season ended but it’s done and Woodward has made his bed. I’m desperate for Ole to succeed but I’m also desperate to see him given time to rebuild a squad capable of actually playing some half decent football.


5.) 06 May 2019 12:22:31
Shappy I remember peps 1st season though he didn’t have the players to carry out his plan you could still see how he set the team up and how he wanted the team to play. What I’m concerned about is we look like we have no plan or style of play game to game as it’s always changing. I’m also concerned that ole will not get as much backing as the fans want less so the players we need.


6.) 06 May 2019 12:34:56
The difference being that pep came from managing the biggest clubs in football, with huge experience handling players with all sorts of egos and traits.


7.) 06 May 2019 12:36:44
He has no idea. never did have an idea. Will never have an idea. Let's stop this insane and inane optimistic posturing. A mistake has been made, and hardly for the first time. Go get someone who can manage and recruit. Relying on emotion, sentiment, heritage fantasies, imagery and symbolism is futile.

At least he is cheap to terminate. So terminate.


8.) 06 May 2019 12:56:58
It doesn't help when most of the team are out of breath after thirty minutes like yesterday. How professional athletes can be so unfit is beyond me.


9.) 06 May 2019 13:06:34
I can't remember watching a PL team so out of shape like Utd are.

Frankly its embarrassing. Sheer petulance. All we can do is back the manager and hope for the best.


10.) 06 May 2019 13:47:54
The ...............

{Ed002's Note - Why bother posting when you know so little about the club? At the moment you are just trolling the posts of others. You would do better to post nothing and try to learn.}


11.) 06 May 2019 15:01:10
Shappy is bang on here.

I don't know enough about the details of how the club is run but something is broken above Ole's head And something seems a miss in the changing room. We need a clear out, fresh ideas and new personalities.


12.) 06 May 2019 16:45:17
If a strong personality like Mourinho couldn't put his foot down and get backed, do you guys think Ole will do that or have the backing.

I very much doubt anything will change.

The club seems to be be clueless and targeting Mouirnho's identified player which again points to th3 fact Ole is not choosig the players it is getting chose by the people above.

Th3 club is just going back on their words which is r3qlly bad and if a new manager looks at it from that angle i am sure he wouldn't want to be associated with th3 club unless he is given full backing.

Ole was and is a easy get away choice because of the fqns that adore him and will give him time but i don't think he has it in him to succeed long term unless there is a full structure around him which i highly doubt it going by whqt the clubs has been doing for the last 6 years.

I promise you guys the next excuse we are going to have is that it wasnt Ole's chosen players if the club decides to buy Mourinho's targets and will most likely be in a never ending transition period for the next 5 years or so.

The club is player poker and the sooner the dealer gets relieved of his duties the better it is because the cards have been the same but just exchanged hands a few times to keep us fans happy.


13.) 06 May 2019 17:54:59
So Ed ....

{Ed002's Note - Yopu are seemingly the most ill-informermed of the ManchesterUnited supporters - it is really a joke how little the others know - and well beyond a joke what you know.}


14.) 06 May 2019 20:53:23
Ok Malcolm I succumb to your vast knowledge of every detail of the inner workings of our club. Thank you.


 

 

29 Mar 2019 10:27:26
I’m happy ole is finally confirmed as manager.

I’m also a little worried, he says the right things and we’ve had some improvement but what I worry about is the signings he may make and how much control he’ll have over them.

I’m sure he’ll know what signings we need and who needs to go but with Woodward in place will he get what he wants and if he doesn’t think we’ll im manager of Manchester United I’ll go with what we have because if that’s the case we’ll fall short again.

Of course this could happen with any manager we appoint but I want ole to have success but I’m not sure he’ll get the backing he really wants with the idiot above him. For me he looks like he’s set up to fail if the structure of the club isn’t sorted which is what our last few managers have found out to be the case.

nellym

1.) 29 Mar 2019 12:27:25
I get your point. Some people seem to think that Ole will just be a yes man and put up with things as they are. But based on what we know of Ole I think that's wrong. He's a determined character who knows what he wants. I don't think he'll settle for second best. As he keeps saying this is Manchester United. He's saying all the right things publicly. I imagine he's said them privately too. The world and his dog knows where our failings have been and I imagine they Ole will have raised this in the contract talks with a view to getting this resolved. The results he's got put him in a strong position with poch staying put and zidane going back to madrid it didn't many alternatives and woodworm can't get this one wrong.


2.) 29 Mar 2019 13:05:53
I hope your right mort because united winning makes my world so much happier.


 

 

02 Sep 2018 20:39:37
Thought we was brilliant today, thought everyone played well and as a team could of scored 7.We was creative and quick and beat a team who have proved tough to beat in recent seasons quite easily today.

United played the best I've seen in quite a few seasons I was that impressed.

nellym

1.) 02 Sep 2018 21:04:32
Let’s be fair we could have put 3/ 4 past Spurs too.


2.) 02 Sep 2018 22:08:29
Totally agree played well against them too but as a whole today we looked solid never really looked liked conceding. Maybe it's carrick and mckenna's influence in training starting to come to fruition.


3.) 02 Sep 2018 22:51:33
Everyone did their job, some better than others but the 5 pads at the back looked comfortable all game. The midfield got stuck in and did their part. The forwards linked up and created chances.

All in all it was very good performance. The doomsday lads will say "it was only Burnley" but we dominated like we should.

The reaction from the bench when the second goal went in was great to see. Maybe those morons can fly a plane every game, it's a good luck charm!


4.) 02 Sep 2018 23:25:03
3 points I loved about our performance today:
1) Big Wig: thought he played really well and you could see the confidence shift in the CBs with him there. Magic looked better too as did Pogba (except pen miss) .
2) Clean sheet
3) The banner: I’ve said it multiple times before but the problem as I see it is not José and I find it encouraging that for once blame is being directed at someone else other thN the manager. Not to mention, the blame IMO is accurately angled on this occasion.


5.) 03 Sep 2018 03:26:03
All power to the mighty WIG-could be the defensive hero no-one knew was already there-outstanding!


6.) 03 Sep 2018 08:51:37
I enjoyed the game yesterday and agree with the points raised about the match, I just don't see how a stupid banner will do any good, it just gives the press another bullet to fire at Mourinho. It is pathetic IMO.


7.) 03 Sep 2018 13:53:20
The passion and love from the fans has been incredible and honestly more than I thought Jose deserved. But could this spell finally make him realise how lucky he is to be managing a club with such loyal fans? I hope so and the signs are there that maybe he is starting to appreciate, and even enjoy the job.


 

 

29 Oct 2017 08:47:09
I wouldn't be surprised to see Ibrahimovich play in Mkhitarians position once fit as he likes to drop deep and link play something we are not seeing from Mkhitarian at the minute. Ibra would have a bigger presence on the field regarding goal threat/ set pieces. We miss Pogba as the creative player, I think he alone brings the best out of our team. Mkhitarian just doesn't do enough for me largely anonymous like playing with 10 men does not link midfield with attack making us a little toothless. I think if we stay in touch with city get Pogba back buy a left back in january that Jose trusts and maybe a creative midfielder as cover/ or play alongside Pogba then we'll have a real shot at this season title.

nellym

1.) 29 Oct 2017 09:18:58
Would kill us in cm .

Ibra could play as a second striker but he isn't a 10.


2.) 29 Oct 2017 10:11:14
I was generally thinking as a link between midfield and attack as mkhitarian isn't doing it, with him missing in games I think were suffering as a team putting extra pressure on matic/ herrera and lukaku in attack.


3.) 29 Oct 2017 10:45:29
I agree with Jred he can maybe drop a bit deeper and play as a second striker but that would leave us vulnerable in midfield.

The only way I can realistically see him accommodating both Lukaku and Ibra in the same team would be in a 3-5-2 type formation! Unfortunately I'm not sure where that would leave the likes of Rashford and Martial?

It will be fascinating to see how Jose integrate's him back into the side as part of me just can't see Ibra sitting on the bench. Watch this space!


4.) 29 Oct 2017 11:04:15
Do you not feel were a little vulnerable with mkhitarian not offering anything on the field. Sure were still getting results but tell me what does he do that makes us more secure, he's like a non existant presence in our team. He doesn't create, score, tackle and when he dribbles he's easily knocked off the ball losing possession. I like mkhitarian as a player but for me he has to do more to justify his place in the team, he's our playmaker so must want the ball dictate the play create and score and he's not doing that.


5.) 29 Oct 2017 11:13:00
Could we even see a team of De Gea, Bailly, Smalling, Jones, Valencia, Young, Fellaini, Matic, Pogba, Ibra, Lukaku?!

I don't think we'd win any prizes for style but that would be a pretty imposing and intimidating side to play against!


6.) 29 Oct 2017 12:26:33
Nellym - I agree Miki hasn't been playing well for a long time now but he does help out in midfield often dropping deep to make the extra man and he has the pace to get forward in support of and beyond Lukaku. When he's playing well he's good at dribbling with the ball and can see a pass, having said that he's doesn't do this anywhere near enough so I do take your point. I must admit I'm not the biggest fan of No 10's generally speaking as I don't think a lot of them give you enough and often become a luxury. A lot of No 10's seduce you and lead you into a false sense of security, keeping you waiting for that moment of brilliance and before you know it 5 or 6 games have passed and they've done nothing. Just as you start to get frustrated that moment arrives and seduces you all over again! I like more output from my players but that's just my opinion and of course not all No 10's are like this! The No 10's we've had in recent seasons the likes of Miki, Mata, Kagawa haven't really done enough in my opinion and traditionally we haven't played with a No 10 anyway although I think it's something Jose likes in his teams.


7.) 29 Oct 2017 13:00:41
I do agree with you danny regarding the no.10s United have had/ got never really worked for us probably why I suggested Ibra to play a more conventional 2 up front.

{Ed025's Note - square pegs in round holes for me nelly..


8.) 29 Oct 2017 13:30:03
Highly likely we'll adopt 352. Rojo to return, Jose has Valencia and Young. Then you have to accommodate two top strikers. Seems the best option. Done it against Spurs but used Smalling instead of Rojo, Rashford instead of Ibra. Not sure it's what I want, but evidence suggests we'll go that way when Ibra and Rojo are fit. We'll see.


 

 

 

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10 Oct 2020 15:35:48
I think it’s simple really. Pogba has lots of talent but only produces flashes of it because he just ain’t suited to the premier league. He needs a league such as serie a which is less intense/ fast so he has the time to shine. Would do well in the Spanish league too.

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04 Aug 2020 20:46:02
Deependra-I know smalling is surplus but that doesn’t mean we should sell him for less than he is worth given the season he has just had. Furthermore there is apparently interest in him from other teams in serie a hence the reason of not selling for such a low ball figure.

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04 Aug 2020 16:43:55
Ed002 If the roles were reversed and it was Roma who owned smalling and United came in for him after the season he has just had then they would of quoted a far more costly fee to acquire him, so why is it amateurish to demand £18m (the price I’ve read we’re asking) a relatively low price given the very good season he had had?

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{Ed002's Note - The club is run by amateurs - I didn't say it was amateurish. You don't seem to get this at all.}


 

 

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01 Jul 2020 06:08:34
If rumour is to be believed then Gomes wanted guaranteed 1st team football of which clubs in Germany and Spain have all stepped back and thought we cannot agree to that. Coupled with this is he hasn’t been good in enough in the games we’ve seen him. Why should United play a player when those ahead of him are better and committed to the club.

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18 Apr 2020 22:18:55
Or maybe he shows just what a great player he can be with greater quality around him. Bruno Fernandes possibly Sancho/ Grealish added to the growing influence of Rashford and martial and the future of this team looks very bright. If we add consistency to our game we may see a title challenge.

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28 Sep 2020 16:59:31
What makes you think clubs will have the finances to pay £120m or more next given the fact fans are not going and not looking like going to games any time soon. Clubs finances next year could be a lot worse than this season.

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{Ed047's Note - I’m sure I heard or read the other day you are losing something like £110 million in gate receipts with Arsenal not far behind on £95 million.

If correct that’s a big hit for both clubs.


 

 

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26 Sep 2020 10:13:37
Personally i'd like to see a Matic, VDB, Bruno midfield or see Pogba instead of matic against the so called lesser sides.

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17 Sep 2020 17:48:06
I’m happy that a fantastic prospect is to be given a chance in the 1st team this season and in an ideal world he’ll hopefully get up to 15 games of experience and development. Then this will take us to the next summer window where there are comments we’ll be in for the likes of upemecano. What makes you think he’ll come or the board would make a bid. Going on this summer window what makes you confident the likes of upemecano will be here, there could also be the fact no fans will be in the stadiums all season due to C.V. not going away and then we’re more cautious next summer market. Our board are being careful and rightly so but do they have the ambitions of the fans I fear not.

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04 Jul 2020 19:59:39
Here here TrueRedDevil.

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21 Sep 2019 15:05:09
oh come on mumbles poch isn't doing that well of a job they lost the most games in the top 6 than anybody last season already lost 2 this season. What wonders is he really doing with spurs. Sure they got top 4 last season and reached the champs league final which they lost. Spurs an poch ain't doing that great for me.

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