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09 Oct 2025 09:24:30
Anyone seen the post by Turki alalshikh? Seems to be saying United are close to selling to a new investor. Whether that's full sale or just extra funding who knows. Might also just be bs for publicity. What do we think?
1.) 09 Oct 2025 13:49:50
Believe there was a clause in the Ratcliffe deal that after a certain period allowed the Glazers to sell and Ratcliffe would be forced to sell his holding for the price per share the Glazers agreed.
Anything that gets the Glazers out and debt paid off in full will mean popping Champagne corks
The next question is whether the prospective buyer has enough money or is it just the Glazers want to raise more money by selling more shares but not concede control. Not completely sure on the company structure but think if Ratcliffe were to buy more shares that took him over 30% he may be required to offer to all shareholders the same price per share in a full takeover. Hence why he sits at below 30%. Unless there is a clause saying they can’t, then as long as they retain overall 51% the Glazers may sell shares above that level to someone else and pocket the next load of cash. The club won’t benefit until they and the debt are gone completely. A happy day.
2.) 09 Oct 2025 15:25:30
The freeze period ended around mid August RedMan. The 1958 were planning a protest before the Arsenal game but cancelled due to some positive feedback from fans regarding signings and the new training centre. I found it interesting the SJR would put so much money into a project when potentially he could be forced sell his shares. Apparently he gets the opportunity to match any offer the Glazers recieve. I posted that it felt like something was in the pipeline. It’s interesting an individual like Turki Alalshikh would post something like this but no idea if it has any substance. I also, perhaps reading too much into it, found the wording of ‘investors’ rather than buyers/ owners interesting and maybe deliberate?
There has also been no movement from the 1958 recently who have been so vocal and active in their protests to the Glazers. You do wonder if they have been briefed that something is happening?!
OR this could all be nonsense and we are getting excited about the Glazers being gone for nothing ?.
3.) 10 Oct 2025 08:46:58
Probably linked to investment in the stadium.
4.) 10 Oct 2025 11:12:21
Someone buying up all the seat licences?
5.) 10 Oct 2025 14:15:39
turki says a lot of stuff. would not spend too much on what he says. He likes the attention.
6.) 10 Oct 2025 15:50:24
If only this were true….
7.) 10 Oct 2025 21:09:52
redseven are you for real? The Glazers are awful, but wanting to be a pawn in a sportswashing operation isn't something I'd like to see happen.
8.) 11 Oct 2025 11:16:09
I'll be very happy to see the back of the Glasers. They have offered nothing to our club but have taken plenty from us.
That said I am cautious over who it is who eventually buys them out. I'm overall pleased with how INEOS have managed things since they bought into the club. I wouldn't want any new ownership to rock the boat with that. Ideally a change in ownership would either see a total buyout by INEOS, or they at least own the controlling stake in the club so as to not complicate the running of the club.
We have to remember that anyone prepared to pay the eye watering costs of buying us will be doing so with their own agenda, and that may or may not be in our best interests.
Be that sports washing or merely for financial gain. The last thing we need is a power struggle with billionaires squaring off against eachother across the board room.
Personally, what would be my ideal situation is for INEOS to increase their stake to around 70% or more, then maybe a minority stakeholder comes in with around 30% stake. Meaning we are shot of the Glasers, but there isn't going to be a power struggle, or change in how the club is currently being run. INEOS owning a significant majority over anyone else makes things far more secure.
I have a feeling that Sir Jim might set things up and in place for some kind of partial fan ownership held in trust for after he dies. Meaning his legacy will be rebuilding the club and then giving it back to the fans. INEOS is suspect will still own a majority and controlling stake, but the rest being fan owned.
9.) 11 Oct 2025 12:44:51
Nothing could be worse than the Glazers and the debt they have saddled the club with.
If somebody agrees a deal with the Glazers, Ratcliffe will have the opportunity to match it. I’m still not completely sold on INEOS, though, so whether he does or he doesn’t, I’ll be glad to see the back of the yanks.
10.) 11 Oct 2025 14:30:01
You mention sportswashing but conveniently forget to mention the awful history of the glazer family in American politics DonRed?
Extremely large contributors to the Bush presidental campaign, which eventually led to an illegal war that killed millions?
Its only fair to mention both, two cheeks of the same arse as far as I care, but you must be fair. Again, I absolutely do not agree with sport washing nor would I endorse for any of these c**** to own the club, who are undoubtedly involved in atrocities across planet. No to both!
11.) 11 Oct 2025 15:36:56
One is some prats I don't like. The other is a government funded operation to detract from horrific acts. You are equating direct involvement with indirect. That is whataboutism. I'm also not sure about your analysis of this. The Glazers give money to anyone that'll suit them. They funded a lot to both the Trump and Harris campaigns last time. You are stretching very much imo to put those two on the same footing.
12.) 11 Oct 2025 16:14:38
"Some prats I don’t like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there and i’m not saying the UAE investors and the Glazers are identical, one’s a state trying to polish its image. But let’s not act like the Glazers are some neutral ‘just business’ owners either. Their money’s been tied up in nasty sh1t
If the point is moral high ground, there isn’t one. It’s picking between a sportswashing operation and parasites who’ve bled the club dry while funding war-mongers. Different flavours of the same ? sandwich. I just don’t want either anywhere near United. ”.
13.) 11 Oct 2025 16:18:45
And no, that’s not whataboutism, that’s just called having a memory. You don’t get to downplay one set of rotten politics just because it’s wrapped in a different flag.
If we’re talking morals, the Glazers have happily bankrolled people who create the mess, while the other lot are using football to cover theirs. One’s direct, one’s indirect, both are still rotten to the core.
One stinks less loud, that’s all. Still stinks.
14.) 12 Oct 2025 14:53:04
Saying that I shouldn't take sportswashing seriously because of some other indirect involvement via funding a politician before they took an action is pretty much the archetypical example of whataboutism.
15.) 12 Oct 2025 17:38:34
That’s not what I said at all. I never told you not to take sportswashing seriously, I said don’t act like the Glazers are some moral alternative. And no, that’s not whataboutism, pointing out that both sides are rotten isn’t deflection, it’s context.
16.) 12 Oct 2025 21:54:03
Scholes, Unless you are talking about something other than funding a political campaign you are equating two very different things. It is common - expected in fact - for rich people in the US to heavily donate to campaigns.
The Glazers as I said above heavily funded both Trump and Harris! It feels like you are searching for a reason to put them on equal footing with direct and actual evidence of human rights abuses by the groups funding these sports washing operations. I just don't see the equivalence you do. This, one is bad and the other is bad so why split hairs logic just isn't something I'm ever going to agree on.
28 Sep 2025 12:40:06
Southgate rumours have begun. ??♂️.
1.) 28 Sep 2025 13:26:51
I don't want Southgate anywhere near the club, but I can't help but know deep down that he would of got results for us with this team.
2.) 28 Sep 2025 16:55:39
Not a fan either -but he would come in insist on 2 big centre halves, 2 decent full backs,3 in midfield. maybe 4-4-2 . but we would be a lot more solid and maybe start to look like a well coached team. At this point i'm just Amorim out full stop.
3.) 28 Sep 2025 20:32:49
Southgate's only relevant experience is the Premier League where his record reads: got Middlesborough relegated.
We will go down if we appoint Southgate. Regardless what the Atomic Kitten song said he really isn't the one.
4.) 28 Sep 2025 23:05:29
He would probably put his hands round the shoulders of the players and maybe get a better spirit and short term might see an improvement in results but I don't think he is an elite manager who would get us back the top. Let's take the pain now to get to a brighter future.
{Ed025's Note - maybe he should put his hands around their necks Salford?..
5.) 28 Sep 2025 23:33:54
I’d rather give it back to OGS for a go over Southgate.
6.) 29 Sep 2025 07:51:32
And have us see Maguire start every game? Along with Shaw? No thanks.
7.) 29 Sep 2025 11:26:18
How’s it any different to now Trumours?
8.) 29 Sep 2025 13:24:29
Eric79 I think that's exactly the point. So many people are fixated with formation. The issue is the personnel being chosen. Against Brentford we played 5 players that I would say are either not good enough or just not ready - Bayindir, Maguire, Dalot, Dorgu and Ugarte. That's almost half the team. We can get away with one off games where those players play, or even where just one or two of those are playing. The issue is that when we need a lift in our play, those players are just not good enough. Amorim really made a huge mistake with that line up. But he compounded it by not making a change.
9.) 29 Sep 2025 14:43:25
Also Glasner interview, not sure of details but think in German rag. (Not drag) . Although still not sure it’s the best long term if it changes focus away from the leadership team.
01 Sep 2025 06:45:00
Ornstein reporting Betis have agreed to sign Antony for £22m plus 50% sell on. No payoff on wages. Well done to the club for not caving on this after the stunt they pulled. Another Pratt gone. sancho please!
1.) 01 Sep 2025 07:47:54
Celebrations galore as it turns out Betis did have the money but were trying it on.
Is this the most satisfying deal of the transfer window, or will it be Sancho going to Villa for a something similar
And then Malacia, not heard much but I suspect he will go, then if we sign a GK, which of our GK will move on?
Busy day of outgoings.
2.) 01 Sep 2025 12:30:14
Glad we stood our ground.
3.) 01 Sep 2025 15:13:50
Tim why is he a prat.
I don't think he was good enough, but I never seen him not trying or giving his best.
Not his fault to be honest.
28 Aug 2025 17:39:51
Galatasary sniffing round lammens and had talks with him today. If we lose out on him then who? because we simply cannot continue with Onana and bayindir.
1.) 28 Aug 2025 17:56:19
You’re putting a lot of faith in a young, untested keeper. No guarantee he’s any good or ready to be first choice.
There are some videos around of good saves he's made. But have a look for the videos on his mistakes. In some clips he looks no better than Onana.
2.) 28 Aug 2025 18:06:03
Why haven’t we gone all in for Donnarumma? The last thing we need is an untested GK. Yes Donnarumma hasn’t played in the PL but surely if available we got to rival City after the rubbish show yesterday.
3.) 28 Aug 2025 18:10:58
Fall guy I’m not saying he’s the messiah just that he’s the only credible gk link we have so if we don’t get him do we have any other options. Continuing with what we have just can’t be an idea, I’d honestly start heaton if we don’t sign anyone.
4.) 28 Aug 2025 19:00:04
Singh,
Because he wants £300k a week and would be coming for the money, have we not learnt?
5.) 28 Aug 2025 20:40:35
Donnarumma isn’t the answer in my opinion. I don’t think he’s any better at crosses into the box. Although he is a better shop stopper. But he will want a ridiculous salary.
I’d look at Costa from Porto. Or just go and get Emi Martinez.
6.) 29 Aug 2025 08:25:51
We should sign Ederson from City. €15-20m for a keeper of his caliber is a steal. Can’t think of too many players who are better with their feet.
7.) 29 Aug 2025 09:28:53
Redseven, if we still had EtH as manager then Ederson might make some sense. Or if we had a manager who puts a lot of focus on playing out from the back with the keeper.
Yet that's not really Amorim's style, he doesn't need a playmaker keeper. He needs a good shot stopper who is strong in the air and commands his box.
The 343 shape should force teams to attack the wide areas with the middle of the pitch congested. That tends to lead to his team's facing more crosses than teams that play with a back four.
The problems we have with Onana and Bayindir is that both are weak in the air and tend to flap at crosses, and neither command their box well or communicate with their defence. Both can be reasonable shop stoppers (although Onana makes a lot of saves he had a tendency to push the ball back into danger, but does at least make the initial save) .
Ederson doesn't solve any of our problems with the keeper while adding a strength that isn't needed and wouldn't be made the most of.
8.) 29 Aug 2025 14:24:31
Maybe on paper, Shappy, but in reality, our current formation just leads to teams running straight through our midfield and attacking us head on. Our vulnerability from corners comes more from the poor positioning of our defenders than our keeper (although, dgmr, our keepers do suck) .
Ederson is a better shot stopper than any of current keepers and could walk right into the starting 11. Maybe Lammens will become an elite keeper, but Ederson is already at that level, and would cost around the same.
08 Aug 2025 09:15:09
Garnacho agrees terms with Chelsea according to Romano. If they want him then it's £45m-£50m or bog off. They will no doubt lowball us but we should stand firm, if they want him they pay, if not he can have fun in the reserves. U just know he's going to antagonise us even more now and god knows what he'll do when he's gone. Such a wee prat.
1.) 08 Aug 2025 10:27:09
Like Brentford did to us and you moaned about that. ??.
2.) 08 Aug 2025 11:15:19
I get that fans are annoyed at the prices we buy and sell players for. However, I'm glad that those decisions aren't in the hands of those fans. There really is no place in any profession for pettiness or spite.
What do we really stand to benefit from playing silly games? It's highly unlikely to get us significantly more money. The most likely outcome is we get stuck paying a player we don't want and who doesn't want to be here for another year. A player whose attitude has been found lacking even when he was happy and wanted to be here, I can't imagine that attitude will improve much if he's made to spend a year in the reserves. Let alone the potential damage he could do while mixing with the young and impressionable kids in our academy and under 23's.
Then next summer after a horror year how much do you think he will be worth?
We might think he is worth 50m or 60m, but the reality is he is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for him. If that is 30m then he's worth 30m.
There really is no point being silly about it. When we sell players, with only a few exceptions, we are selling down not up. These are players who for whatever reason are not wanted or valued by Manchester United, a club still considered a top side by most in football.
Why would anyone pay a big fee and big wages for a player that Manchester United don't feel is good enough?
We aren't selling Garnacho because of a lack of talent, we are selling him because his attitude and behaviour is problematic and he isn't willing to do what the manager wants him to do on the pitch.
If Chelsea (a rival) wants to take that problem into their dressing room and give us a chunk of money to do so then great.
Not only does that remove a problem player from our dressing room.
It brings money into the club, money needed to strengthen the squad.
It also adds a player into a rivals dressing room who is know to cause problems. A player known to leak team news, a player known to be late, a player known to cause controversy with social media posts, a player known to have caused tension with teammates, and a player who is known to have not followed the managers instructions.
Yes based only on talent he is a player who strengthens Chelsea, but overall he is a player who weakens them. I don't see him lasting more than 2 years there.
Take whatever we can get and reinvest it on a player like Baleba.
3.) 08 Aug 2025 11:43:55
The key difference here is that Brentford would probably have been happy for Mbeumo to stay. We are attempting to push Garnacho out of the door (deservedly so, but still) . Chelsea know we are desperate to sell before the end of the window and that the player won’t go anywhere else. We either sell to them at a price they’re prepared to pay or get stuck with a player who the manager doesn’t want, and whose value will be significantly lower come the next transfer window.
4.) 08 Aug 2025 12:53:45
The fact that there seems to be no queue to acquire Garnacho would suggest that he is not highly thought of in the football world in general. £35m would represent pure profit plus a reduction in the wage bill by £2.5m a year. He could come good, he has certain attributes. Chelsea, which has a much better record at selling players on, could be gambling on future profit as much as Garnacho providing ab immediate boost to their already excellent squad.
5.) 08 Aug 2025 13:15:55
I am not even convinced his talent or potential is worth more than 30 million, especially when RA criticised and chastised him so much, which in the scheme of things was rather stupid, he gone backwards that’s for sure, I am not sure he gets any better and I certainly don’t think he strengthens Chelsea by any means! They tend to try these players if not good enough move them on….
6.) 08 Aug 2025 13:19:29
I would expect us to sell Garncacho for a similar figure to what they got for Maduake and paid for Gittens.
Both players have had reasonable seasons over the past couple of years, young with potential but not set the work alight just yet.
So, somewhere in the £40/ 45m bracket with some add ons feels about right.
At that price point for Chelsea it is relatively low risk. he does not perform over the next couple of years they will sell on.
If we get more well done.
7.) 08 Aug 2025 13:20:33
Chelsea will be quite happy to sign him for £30m spread over 5 years for PSR then sell him next year for the same amount to allow them to spend big again as all the money hits 1 year accounts so would allow potentially £150m spend based on current rules. Seems to be how they're operating at the moment.
8.) 08 Aug 2025 15:26:44
Chelsea sold made for £50m + and paid the same for gittens. Garnacho is around that level so his fee should be similar. We can’t just sell him for nothing. That’s my point. Also consider the fact that if the roles were reversed they’d want us to pay a decent fee. Anyways hopefully a deal can be done and one we r happy with.
9.) 08 Aug 2025 15:51:37
For me I agree Garnacho isn’t worth £50/ 60/ 70M however, the fees that have been paid for players has set a precedent. Arsenal brought the Chelsea lad for around £50m I believe so we should be saying £50M. I don’t think we need to cave in easily and just accept a low offer. Garnacho wants to move, it’s in his interest to move with a World Cup year so I think we are in a better position to get a better fee.
10.) 08 Aug 2025 16:26:26
They're has been a lot of clubs showing interest but he only wants to go to Chelsea so batted the others away.
Only 1 player under 21 had better stats than him last season. He is a good player but doesn't see eye to eye with the manager so he needs to go. i'm guessing somewhere around 35 to 45 including add ons we will get a small % of any future fees he generates for rest of his career as he has come through our academy.
11.) 08 Aug 2025 17:16:48
To be fair, that is a very good point. I think if we hold firm on our price, Garnacho would put in a transfer request to force through a move. Not the best look for the club, but given the way that he’s behaved and the fact that he’s refusing to even entertain a move to anybody but a top four rival, I think most would agree that we’re right to stand our ground.
12.) 08 Aug 2025 18:58:23
Hold out for the right price. He should be told he can't go below certain price. We must not let other clubs bully us. Chelsea killed us with Mount price, who was in his last year of contract and also wanted to go.
13.) 08 Aug 2025 23:46:11
I think many are going to be surprised with what we sell for on all 4 players, I expect us to generate £100m to £110m, Ratcliffe did a good PR Jon on our finanical position compared to the reality. They will either pay what we want or those players will stay.
14.) 09 Aug 2025 07:31:59
No way they stay and every other club knows that, RA put paid to that with the treatment and that’s down to his naivety and the club, let’s hope they learnt from that, but whatever concrete offers come in for them they are gone, 35m probably buys Garnacho, bit less buys Antony, or even a loan for him any offer buys Sancho, none of these are great players and none of them had much interest in, which says it all, I don’t by that Garnacho only wants Chelsea yes might be preferred but not exclusive, but no one else made an attempt with offers have they, so just press talk.
We backed ourselves into awful corner.
I could see a Mainoo offer come in though and him gone any luck an Ugarte offer but can’t see that….
15.) 09 Aug 2025 10:38:40
No, we havent. Its not like Garnacho holds all the cards. If he stays, he might lose a year, he won't play at WC and he will be able to get lower contract, since he wasnt playing for a year. Chelsea want to sell Jackson and still ask silly money. Be realistic.
16.) 09 Aug 2025 11:33:38
We get what we can. The old team almost wrecked the club and here we are trying to demand the exact same amount as we massively overpaid for a completely different player. Not terribly scientific. I’ve a lot of faith in this new team/ approach and have no doubt they will do the best they can and what’s best for the club. Not some bonkers eye for an eye especially as we actually poked ourselves in the eye with Mount.
17.) 09 Aug 2025 19:19:13
It is not eye for an eye, it is what Garnachos price is, what players of similar level went for. The Mount part is just to show that a club can stay strong in their valuation of the player and not sell low, even in a "bad" position.
18.) 09 Aug 2025 22:14:58
The manager wants Garnacho gone, he needs to be gone to show that the manager has the power now not the players and that if you don't play ball you are gone. Staying tough on Garnacho will hopefully keep others in line in the future.
United can't hold out for a bigger fee here because everyone knows this.
Mount was very different, he was a player that always gave his all, you never heard him of causing waves or giving less than 100%, his managers loved him, he just priced himself out of Chelsea and being homegrown solved a problem for Chelsea.
19.) 10 Aug 2025 07:48:47
And what excuse you have for Jackson? They want him gone, but still want 75m.
Garnacho will be gone from the 1st team, but it doesn't have to be a low sell. As i already said, it is not just up to him or what he wants.
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10 Oct 2025 22:33:59
Not united related but what a performance and result by my boys in green tonight. Really enjoying watching this young norn iron side grow together and keep getting better. Always been proud of our team but it's even better when we aren't awful lol.
1.) 11 Oct 2025 01:40:09
Michael O'Neill deserves a lot of credit. Whilst still making the best use of set pieces against the bigger teams (which let's face it, is most of them) we actually try to play decent football as well, even if it doesn't always come off.
Glad to see young Trai get the winner, but even if it pains me to say it, Bradley is a super wee player.
Few Guinness tonight ?.
2.) 11 Oct 2025 09:40:59
We had some great passages of play last night, and the energy from everyone was fantastic. Bright future ahead ? and I’m sure there’ll be more than a few drinks this weekend ?.
04 Oct 2025 18:18:18
Very good first half, sat back second half and Sunderland's system change did make the game more even. Good result and performance overall. Really nice to see a gk commanding his area and shouting instructions, he even claimed a cross ?♂️ ps what was that VAR all about, if they had given that then riots!
1.) 04 Oct 2025 18:41:26
About rite, but that ref today. seems every week, just hopeless.
03 Oct 2025 13:59:11
RA "when you look at the matches we've lost, I don't think we've lost because of the system"
Some may agree with that, others might not. But going by his own words then he isn't for making any changes, so get that idea out of your head.
1.) 03 Oct 2025 14:35:10
It is absolutely the system. let's add delusion to his manager traits.
2.) 03 Oct 2025 14:44:31
Amorim is so entrenched in the belief that changing means failure, that he’d rather sink into delusion than try anything different.
It’s true that a lot of the goals his teams have conceded result from individual errors. However, these errors can be punished and exploited due to the obvious weaknesses in his system.
At this point, I’m done with him. A coach unwilling to learn and adapt is never going to make it at the top level.
3.) 03 Oct 2025 15:38:24
He wants his players to change and adapt but he doesn't want to do same .
4.) 03 Oct 2025 15:40:50
And a club with fans who have the patience of a goldfish coupled with a media army desperate for the next man utd story to sell their papers are never going to make it back to the top level.
We are stuck in a self destructive cycle, at some point we have to plot a course out of it. Or we can just sack managers every 9 months and look forward to winning the championship. No not that one. The actual championship.
5.) 03 Oct 2025 15:52:58
Dodgy, I would love for Amorim to succeed, but he’s going out every week doing the same thing, losing, and still refusing to try something different. Giving him more time won’t change anything. His style of play is just too predictable, and too easy to exploit. It’s a question of sticking with this, or the directors admitting that they made a mistake hiring him.
6.) 03 Oct 2025 17:05:40
It doesn’t matter what system we play. If the players aren’t willing to fight, the results will stay the same. But that doesn’t really matter at this point. Amorim is as good as gone.
7.) 03 Oct 2025 17:15:20
Any system/ formation is irrelevant if you get, anxious players, lack of team ethic, lack a of intensity from a few, lack of controlled aggression. individual errors and players who can't follow instuction and remain focused for the whole time they are on the pitch. Formations and pods are all variable depending on with/ without ball, where on the pitch the play is, spacing between players, pods of 3 or 4 players, straight lines, diagonals.
The players need to know where they need to be in any particular situation. Amorim's formation probably rely's on one of the FB's joing the midfield 2 at any one time or one of (or both) number 10's joining the midfield 2 and it isn't fluid. It should'nt be complicated, just some individuals need to know what they are doing.
8.) 03 Oct 2025 19:53:27
Dodgy, maybe the next manager will be competent enough to change the results on the pitch.
We have had 2 managers in ETH and Amorim, who’ve looked promising, judging by their work with their previous team, and have totally flopped for one reason or another.
I absolutely 100% want one of these to succeed but there’s no point pretending that Amorim is going to suddenly have this team competing.
He and his coaching staff are way off what’s required in the PL unfortunately.
9.) 04 Oct 2025 01:51:37
I am frustrated as anyone about bruno in midfield pivot, mcguire, dalot, shaw, casemiro, beyinder.
I hope he starts to play youth / new team and starts to build the future. I think some would have more patience watching yoro, heaven, mainoo and co trying to gel into a new team. But watching the same old squad of old losing away to average teams is enough to burn his future.
I can't see a way back for him now. Too much damage done last season and by not buying a special-ist rb and a midfielder. But I also think we would be better off quicker if we just played young players and built for the future and gave him time. He has the wrong players now. So change the players.
10.) 04 Oct 2025 10:29:02
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Does it have to be just the players? is it just the manager? Why can’t it be both? Just because we’ve had a number of failed managers doesn’t mean we should stick with this one, maybe he’s not right either. The evidence mounting up would suggest so. I hope he succeeds like many others on here but it’s not trending that way and his stubbornness to even admit any culpability isn’t helping. Seems he now doesn’t want to change incase it does work and he’ll have to admit it was his system after all.
29 Sep 2025 14:37:02
Genuine question here, when Amorim is sacked (seems only a matter of time) should berrada and Wilcox follow him out the door? Both heavily linked to his appointment, both clashed with the now departed ashworth and both are yet to prove they know what they are doing. Do others agree or are u happy with what they have done in their prospective roles?
1.) 29 Sep 2025 14:48:48
Well I think when you look at everything else off the pitch, transfers, new training complex, new plans for a stadium, youth development etc, the club is moving in the right direction again, regardless of whether you agree or not with it and with the way it has been done. It's unfortunate though that the main issue is the most important one, the senior team and their performances and results.
I do think the mess of the club internally is far greater than what we all understand because of the Glazer's and Woodward and co so Wilcox and Barrada moving on to IMO would be a bit hasty and unfair.
2.) 29 Sep 2025 15:05:08
I really have no idea what either have done. Its very diffucult to know what goes on behind closed doors. From the outside if looks like absolutely nothing has changed.
3.) 29 Sep 2025 15:13:28
They have to own the decision, will they walk as a result, unlikely.
On potential Amorim replacements, let’s face it there aren’t many options. Some have mentioned Iraola, but remember Bournemouth struggled with his formations and tactics initially and didn’t win for 10 games.
Glasner seems the obvious target, playing the same formation as Amorim and having a better record over a shorter period, but would he take the job, it is a career killer for everyone at the moment, maybe he is smart enough to say no.
Fabrizio was going on about Xavi, but with no Premier League experience I think that would be a bad choice.
With the run of games coming including Sunderland, Liverpool, Brighton, Forest, Spurs and Everton I’m not optimistic we will get more than 6 points from 6 games, and I expect the board will be forced to make a decision.
4.) 29 Sep 2025 15:25:09
Both did a very good job at City. They went with a younger manager who was doing exceptionally well in the Portuguese league. He had SL play some very entertaining football.
Flip the switch and nearly a year later, RA is clearly obstinate. Yet he doesn't have the players to play the way he wants. His fixation on the 3421 formation appears to be his downfall. Some would call it tunnel vision to a certain degree.
Behind the scenes Wilcox and Berrada are slowly transforming the way the club is being run. Years of purely focusing on the club as a business instead of a football club has been detrimental to Utd and a huge part of their demise.
The reality is that Utd have beena mid table team since EtH second season. The FA Cup win masked over a poor season.
Maguire, Shaw, Dalot and Casemeiro, are still playing in the first 11 for Utd and are no where near the level required to be top players in their positions. Rashford regressed and had a poor attitude and clearly stopped trying. Sancho never tried unless it was on Fifa. Onana, Anthony, Hjolund all flopped. All of which was prior to Berrada and Wilcox coming in.
A culmination of buying poor players, letting players leave for free and paying exceptional high wages is down to the previous regime. To reverse this takes time and patience. Mistakes will happen.
The club can't simply click their fingers and be rid of these underperfroming players.
Unfortunately an obstinate manager and players who aren't bright enough will continue in blight our performances. Perhaps a simple formation change woukd change things. RA appears to favour losing his job over a change in formation.
5.) 29 Sep 2025 15:44:58
I think they can make a mistake or even two in finding the right person.
I agree it’s a bad look with Ashworth but so long as Amorim gives them no choice they can come out looking clean. Amorim has been given time and backing, which is a good look.
6.) 29 Sep 2025 16:04:19
I don’t like Wilcox but don’t think he goes when RA does or Barrada, I think it’s wishful thinking by those that think it’s not going to be run as a business going forward, SJR is more business focused than the Glazers and it’s 2025 football is now a business.
Personally I would go for Xavi or ZZ players have to respect that calibre as will the press plus football would be good at that level not sure it matters about no epl experience then Iraola, not sure Glasner got the personality required…. 100% please no Southgate.
7.) 29 Sep 2025 17:08:39
Other than the front 3 this is the same squad as last season
What did anyone expect.
These players can’t be coached and you can’t replace them all
But Amorim needs to find a way to get results at the moment we look the same as last season and this year the newly promoted teams don’t look as bad as the ones last season
We are going knowhere fast.
8.) 29 Sep 2025 18:29:05
Why on earth can’t these players be coached, that’s poppycock
How on earth can you win anything with Mount playing LWB
Dorgu a player he bought is useless in final third… Cunha Mbuemo going backwards a new GK he is scared to play, Changes CB every game for another CB plays our best player in an unnatural position, Yoro and Mainoo on naughty step with Heaven build up play still slow and ponderous this is all on RA no one else.
9.) 29 Sep 2025 18:31:52
Short answer no.
If you sack everyone for every mistake they make them you're business will be nothing but a merry-go-round of staff changes.
Everyone, in every position, in every walk of life makes mistakes. You need to give them a chance to correct them and learn from them.
If they aren't able to then it might be time to part ways.
10.) 29 Sep 2025 18:54:55
The way they aggressively briefed against Dan Ashworth, yes they should both leave.
It was pretty classless and to insinuate that a highly competent football administrator/ director is incompetent just because you didn't agree on the way forward manager wise was ridiculous.
Now they have egg on their face and the next manager most likely will be someone with PL experience as Ashworth suggested.
11.) 29 Sep 2025 21:56:53
Dsg he wanted Southgate as manager that alone should be a sackable offence
As for Amorim he needs to change up fast as I think a anything less than a win weekend and it’s bye bye.
12.) 30 Sep 2025 06:48:07
Those who live in manchester and know a few blokes from the city set up will tell you wilcox was a nobody at city and had nothing to do with how they play. He ain't qualified to decide how united play but we stupid enough to make him the kingmaker at our club. bets guy we hired is the chelsea guy.
13.) 30 Sep 2025 09:00:20
So we keep saying that we want to have a clear consistent direction which comes from the CEO/ Sporting Director/ Head of Recruitment team with the manager/ head coach provided the tools to play. Yet we are then talking about ripping this up if the coach does not work out, even if it turns out to be a bad hire don't throw away the overall direction of the club!
We have been a joke of a club for years so it will take a while to turn the titanic round. We are year 2 into the Berrada/ Wilcox/ Vivell team and they have had to deal with clear out of players, bringing in players on a relatively tight budget compared to the amount of players we need to bring in overall. They are restructuring the recruitment especially the youth so that we can get the players in early and see if they can come through.
Overall I think they have done a good job, whilst as fans it is okay for us to want this job to be done quicker and now!
If the club have faith in Amorim (blind based on performance but they see him around the club) then I hope they stick to their guns and give it the season. If they are doubting his ability to turn it round (again from what they see around the club) then make the call over the next few months but definitely ahead of christmas.
Then it is a who replaces, are we wedded to a 343 system and as such bring in a Glasner (along with Wharton! ) or do we go for a Xavi who likes to bring the young players in and will be more 433.
I just want us to not completely pivot like we have done previously which is why the team has been a hotch botch of players for different managers.
14.) 30 Sep 2025 09:56:22
Fortunately there's been no real investment in wingbacks, so this squad could still be moulded into any formation at this point. Despite lacking a great CM it's still better suited for 4-3-3 at this point, we could erase the last year from history lol.
15.) 30 Sep 2025 09:59:47
Lots of differing views on that which is good to see. Yes we don’t all agree but we all have the club at heart and want what’s best. Thanks for the input on that topic.
22 Sep 2025 09:21:47
Rashford really can't get out of his own way can he. brilliant against Newcastle and got lots of plaudits then dropped at the weekend because he was late for a team meeting. Honestly this kids career is in danger of going down the toilet if he doesn't sort himself out. Ability without mentality is worthless and that's where Marcus falls short time and time again.
1.) 22 Sep 2025 14:34:23
He’s not a kid though is he. He’s in his peak years.
To be fair, most footballers would take playing for Barcelona in their peak years, having already amassed millions in the bank and multiple international caps.
I get what you’re saying though.
2.) 22 Sep 2025 17:52:47
Wasn't he brought on though? So i'd imagine it was okay. Had it been serious, I'm sure he just wouldn't play.
3.) 23 Sep 2025 05:55:45
He probably forgot to put his Rolex forward an hour after arriving back to Spain after the Newcastle game.
4.) 23 Sep 2025 11:29:12
Doesn’t he wear two watches? They can’t be set for the same time surely?
09 Oct 2025 09:26:37
Didn’t see your post and posted the same story. Probably bs but we can hope. Might also not be a full sale but just extra investment coming in for a percentage? Is that even possible?!
09 Oct 2025 09:25:32
It’s only good news if we improve like we all hope. If not it’ll be a long 3 years.
01 Sep 2025 12:13:28
Haven’t seen much of him but he has to be levels above what we already have. Just hope the manager has faith and puts him in straight away.
28 Aug 2025 18:10:58
Fall guy I’m not saying he’s the messiah just that he’s the only credible gk link we have so if we don’t get him do we have any other options. Continuing with what we have just can’t be an idea, I’d honestly start heaton if we don’t sign anyone.
08 Aug 2025 15:26:44
Chelsea sold made for £50m + and paid the same for gittens. Garnacho is around that level so his fee should be similar. We can’t just sell him for nothing. That’s my point. Also consider the fact that if the roles were reversed they’d want us to pay a decent fee. Anyways hopefully a deal can be done and one we r happy with.
11 Oct 2025 09:40:59
We had some great passages of play last night, and the energy from everyone was fantastic. Bright future ahead ? and I’m sure there’ll be more than a few drinks this weekend ?.
06 Oct 2025 10:51:47
Not only that Ken, but he was a lot more vocal than the other 2. Organising defenders and shouting instructions. Had one head loss when he came out and missed the ball but other than that he look composed. Bigger tests ahead but positive start.
04 Oct 2025 10:29:02
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. Does it have to be just the players? is it just the manager? Why can’t it be both? Just because we’ve had a number of failed managers doesn’t mean we should stick with this one, maybe he’s not right either. The evidence mounting up would suggest so. I hope he succeeds like many others on here but it’s not trending that way and his stubbornness to even admit any culpability isn’t helping. Seems he now doesn’t want to change incase it does work and he’ll have to admit it was his system after all.
04 Oct 2025 10:23:54
They are excellent so far this season. Watched a few games and been very impressed. Long may it continue.
03 Oct 2025 09:50:02
Talk of him being sacked next week…. marinakis doesn’t hang around!