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29 Aug 2021 21:00:42
Amad deal could be off as he got injured in training. Feel for the lad but honestly if he's staying, the club should try and move Jesse and Dan james. Be happy to have amad on bench above those 2.

Tim_99

1.) 29 Aug 2021 21:23:12
Dan James is more likely to handed a new long term contract than leave the club.


2.) 29 Aug 2021 21:28:50
Wouldn’t surprise me, we have a habit of rewarding mediocrity. James seems like a good lad and he works v hard but the quality just isn’t there. I’d see if Leeds want him on loan and go from there.


3.) 29 Aug 2021 21:48:04
If he was coached properly he would be a whole lot better. He always seems to play well for Wales.


4.) 29 Aug 2021 22:32:36
Proper coaching at united? Give your head a wobble mate 🤣 it will never happen 😜.


5.) 29 Aug 2021 22:20:15
For starters he can't play at RW.


6.) 30 Aug 2021 06:09:26
James can be coached to be a very good squad player I would say.

He would probably be more suited to a team with fluid attacking football where the emphasis is on progressing the ball quickly.

I am wondering how he would do at Dortmund for example.


7.) 30 Aug 2021 09:33:21
I don't think that you can teach instinct, that's his biggest downfall he gets in to good positions and then doesn't know what to do.


8.) 30 Aug 2021 11:13:46
I watched him at the Euro’s and he was exactly the same player he is for united, just playing in a worse team so he stood out a bit more. Ran a lot, worked hard, terrible end product.


 

 

26 Aug 2021 22:27:01
Sky sports are reporting that Dortmund are in talks for dalot. Loan with buy option. If he goes whos AWB's backup? I'm confused.

Tim_99

1.) 26 Aug 2021 22:51:50
Trippier.


2.) 26 Aug 2021 23:00:03
Trippier hopefully.


3.) 26 Aug 2021 23:17:24
Let's see how it pans out mate. If he's being let go I'm sure we will have something lined up.


4.) 26 Aug 2021 23:20:57
Typical united tim and watch wan bissaka get injuried

Although lindercrap can play rb.


5.) 26 Aug 2021 23:37:05
Would love trippier but I think the above post might be right. Lindelof has played there before so we will prob use him there at times. Typical square pegs in round holes.


6.) 27 Aug 2021 06:49:07
Lindelof at RB would be a huge mistake.


7.) 27 Aug 2021 07:39:19
Last season AWB played in 34 of the 38 league games, all 6 of our UCL games and all 9 of our UEL games, 3 out of 4 FA cup games, and 2 of the 4 League cup games we played.

Meaning we needed a back up RB for 4 league games, 1 FA cup game, and 2 league cup games.

AWB played in 54 of our 61 games last season. In the other 7 games Williams, Dalot and Tuanzebe covered for him.

If Mengi, Lindelof or whoever else needs to cover for 7 games this season will it be a disaster?


8.) 27 Aug 2021 08:06:31
thats assuming wan bissaka stays fit shappy and is consistent in his form.

tbh i really like wan bissaka but going forward he is terrible, his passing is poor and he always looks like he's going to fall over when running forward.

defensively he is top but we need more from him going forward.


9.) 27 Aug 2021 08:13:07
I just don’t understand how we are ‘potentially’ trading a 22 year old right back who’s got scope to improve, for a 30 year old who’s game is based on getting up and down, and when we’ll only get two seasons of optimum performance out of him. Antonio Valencia was a great player for us, but we persisted with him into his 30’s and he held us back. If the alleged interest is real then I’m failing to see how Diogo isn’t good enough at least as a back up for us, but he’s good enough for Bayern or Dortmund…….


10.) 27 Aug 2021 08:30:41
Trippier starts ahead of AWB in any game we play against non-top 6 sides, for me. He’d also probably be Shaw’s understudy at LB.

Yes, AWB’s slide tackling is immense, but he cannot defend his back post for toffee and looks about as comfortable on the ball going forward as The Inbetweeners did on the dancefloor.

Trippier is better than AWB.


11.) 27 Aug 2021 09:37:22
Agree downsie. 50m for awb looks silly now imo. Not improved 1 iota since he joined in fact he looked better at Palace.
Trippier is streets ahead of him and dalot is not happy at united and who can blame him.


12.) 27 Aug 2021 09:58:01
Is that awb’s fault Ken or the coaching staff?


13.) 27 Aug 2021 10:12:26
Valencia was a poor RB. He was useless go forward. He was lucky to stay at the club for so long.


14.) 27 Aug 2021 10:31:42
100% with Ken on this one. Buying awb has been a mistake so far. He can't bomb on on the overlap without turning back, coming inside into pointless positions, playing it back to the cbs or running into the opposition. Which I consider pretty shocking considering he used to be a winger in palaces academy set up. He hasn't improved in attack one bit. He is a great defender one on one, but recently I've noticed more and more that he very easily switches off and fails to track his runner. Hence the magnificent last ditch tackles he pulls off. Some of the tackles he puts in are ultimately a result of him not tracking his runner or poor positioning.

I was completely against signing trippier but the more I think about it, the more I think we need him.


15.) 27 Aug 2021 11:39:00
Hindsight is a a wonderful thing. But 50m for AWB or the 30m Max Aarons would have cost now makes it look like we went for the wrong deal.


16.) 27 Aug 2021 12:30:50
the issue for me is we shouldn't be signing a back up RB we should be signing a 1st choice RB, i defended bissaka as much as i can he just isn't good enough for a top club yes he can slide tackle usually as he has to because he is a bad defender he can't read the game, can't position him self doesn't stop crosses and the less said about is forward ability the better awful player.


17.) 27 Aug 2021 13:38:45
The other factor to consider is that Dalot is not actually any good.


18.) 27 Aug 2021 15:09:51
And here comes Ken criticising the manager and coaching again! AWB has been a very good signing, solid and dependable in a position we haven’t had addressed for years . He is improving too, especially with the ball albeit a long way to go. Huge difference playing for us and palace, gets far more possession with us and is left far more exposed with us as we attack in more numbers than palace. At palace he was set up to defend in two blocks of four, perfect for him . So yes he has been a good signing and he is improving and no he is not another stick for you to beat our manager with!


19.) 27 Aug 2021 16:28:57
I disagree Chris as does olewally as he has chased trippier all summer. So wally and I agree on something. Tim yes its down to coaching. Awb can do better he will eventually when we get a better staff.


20.) 27 Aug 2021 21:32:08
I wouldn't say AWB has been a mistake as he's still so young and has so much time to grow however he hasn't really improved as of yet and for me is our most frustrating starter atm. I'd still give dalot a shot.


 

 

26 Aug 2021 15:29:27
Hi Ed, with mctominay having surgery and a timescale on his return not set. are United pushing more for a midfield signing now? Thanks.

Tim_99

{Ed002's Note - It makes no difference - the club want to add a player.}


1.) 26 Aug 2021 16:28:09
Thanks Ed…once again your info is greatly appreciated.


2.) 26 Aug 2021 17:45:15
Let's hope its someone like Callum McGregor or John McGinn so we can keep the McFred partnership going.


 

 

17 Aug 2021 13:00:12
Williams to Norwich on loan. Good move for all parties if it happens.

Tim_99

1.) 17 Aug 2021 13:16:58
Lovely part of the country.


2.) 17 Aug 2021 20:39:45
Looks like Dalot will be staying then.


3.) 17 Aug 2021 23:19:48
Or Trippier will be coming in.

{Ed002's Note - That is the plan.}


4.) 17 Aug 2021 23:37:45
Would be a good move for him Tim. They are on for a tough season he needs to nail down a place in the team and show his quality.


5.) 17 Aug 2021 23:43:34
Dalit would have to go first surely? Milan Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Trippier is going to prove difficult.}


6.) 17 Aug 2021 23:44:36
We live in hope shappy in order to get the best out of sancho we need an over lapping full back to prevent sancho getting doubled up on. Trippier makes those runs awb needs to learn that and trippier is imo better than most. Plus great dead ball and crossing ability which awb needs to learn.
Shifting Williams and dalot will go a long way to financing that deal and make space to improve the team.
With pogba staying there is no room for a midfield player unless andreas Jesse and maybe 1 more leave I would imagine that and a striker is on the cards for next summer or Jan depending on what happens between now and then.


7.) 18 Aug 2021 06:34:37
ED002,

Are AM wanting a lot of money for Trippier?

Reports in various newspapers are reporting a fee circa £35million. Or are AM just reluctant to sell him?

{Ed002's Note - That is the sort of price that will be acceptable to them, but it is a lot for a 30 year old.}


8.) 18 Aug 2021 10:20:31
Wouldn't go over 15m for trippier if were that desperate for a right back at that price I'd look at Max Aaron's but I'd rather we got rid of lingard, matic, pereira, and pogba and get the midfielder in and use garner as well.


9.) 18 Aug 2021 10:44:17
I believe we should persist with Dalot as he can cover both LB and RB positions.
At 22, he has lot of time and scope to improve.


10.) 18 Aug 2021 10:52:56
ED002,

Thanks, it certainly is. Dalot staying would make sense, but is he still likely to leave the club this summer?

{Ed002's Note - Diogo Dalot (RB/LB) Milan wanted a cheap deal or another loan if they can but it depended on Manchester United adding a replacement as cover and giving them an early answer - it didn't happen. Milan have another option they will sign now. I expect he will now stay.}


11.) 18 Aug 2021 10:54:23
Dbrooks90,

I'm hoping Roma come back for Matic. He struggles to play a game a week and put in a performance worthy of a starting place in the lineup.


12.) 18 Aug 2021 10:56:44
Dalot is a shambles I just hope he isn’t the backup to AWB. He cannot defend. I honestly don’t get the love for him.


13.) 18 Aug 2021 12:16:37
Thanks ED002.


14.) 18 Aug 2021 13:02:42
It sounds like a combination of the target United would like (Trippier) is too expensive to justify, while Dalot himself seems to have come back from his loan mentally and physically more capable.

Which is making the club question do they need to get rid of a player who has improved and looks more capable of performing how they need, in order to pay over the odds for another player.

Plus I'd imagine there must be a reluctance to over pay for a player like Trippier who'll have little to no resale value and would demand significantly higher wages than Dalot is currently being paid.

When looking at it purely on playing ability over the next 12-24 months then Trippier is a better option than Dalot.

Yet he will cost significantly more in fees and wages, has little to no resale value, and would need replacing in 2-3 years time, while Dalot would be 24/ 25 in 2-3 years time and would be approaching his prime.

I think Dalot if he can avoid injuries could be an excellent "modern" full back. If he has grown mentally and personally from his time in Italy then I don't think giving him another year to see what he can do would be a problem.


15.) 18 Aug 2021 14:17:46
ED002,

There were reports Perrieira could be leaving the club, possibly to Brazil, are these reports correct?

{Ed002's Note - Andreas Pereira (CM) Manchester United were pricing him out of a move to Lazio or Fenerbahce. Everton made an approach but it was rejected by the player. Now there is a realisation that other interest has moved on and Kia is talking with Fluminense and Flamengo to try and get this resolved.}


16.) 18 Aug 2021 14:20:10
I can see why the club are hesitating with the Dalot situation. Selling a young player with potential for €5m to then go and spend €35m on a 30+ year old seems like terrible business to me, especially as he’ll likely be playing as back up to AWB. A center mid should be our priority as that’s now our weakest position on the pitch by miles.

If we have €35m for KT, I’d much rather see us bid €35m + Lingard for Rice or Ndidi. We’d probably need to find another €20m to make either deal happen, but they’re the kind of players who could really give us a shot at winning things this season. Either that or sell Lingard and use the money to purchase Saul.


17.) 18 Aug 2021 17:39:38
Thanks ED002,

Not sure why the club are pricing him out of a move. Surely a sale is better than a loan deal.


 

 

07 Aug 2021 23:16:07
Rumour that Inter might look to martial as a replacement for Big Rom. do the Ed's know if the club would consider a sale if a sufficient offer arrived?

Tim_99

{Ed002's Note - He would be well down the list. They are already in talks with another club about a player.}


1.) 07 Aug 2021 23:29:27
Thanks Ed…. another year of the unpredictable with Anthony then 🤣.


2.) 08 Aug 2021 08:02:02
I think Inter want zapata don't they? Martial will still be here in September I think.


3.) 08 Aug 2021 09:13:37
@Derby86. Zapata and Dzeko. Maybe Correa (Lazio) too.


4.) 08 Aug 2021 09:48:26
Zapata with Tammy going Atalanta I read.


5.) 08 Aug 2021 12:25:48
Could see Martial at Inter. I'll even cough up the train fare.
But, I imagine if Cavani were to get injured when Rashy was also out, we have very little by way of CF. Maybe Brian McClair is still about?


6.) 08 Aug 2021 12:56:58
Dzeko is going to Inter, the options for Martial are limited.


7.) 08 Aug 2021 13:10:49
Keep him he's a much better player than Rashford.

{Ed014's Note - what are we talking here, darts, golf, snooker?


8.) 08 Aug 2021 15:28:42
Martial is better than Rashford? It’s all about opinions. Even bizarre ones. Martial is a Nani of a player. Capable of a 9/ 10 performance that really makes you say wow. But his average per game is probably a 4 or 5 out of 10. Woeful.


9.) 08 Aug 2021 15:45:55
Ed don't be silly, we both know I'm talking about ping pong.

{Ed014's Note - ahh perfect as I thought there’s no way you meant at football. 😉😂


10.) 08 Aug 2021 16:43:10
Halesini. You comparing Martial to Nani?! Not sure how much you watched of Nani but he was a heck of a lot better than Martial.


11.) 08 Aug 2021 23:35:24
Ports you are so right. But he was a head wrecker too at times.


12.) 09 Aug 2021 22:25:41
Ports - Nani was a lot better than Martial. But Nani wasn't good enough ultimately. Unless I missed all those Ballon d'Or awards he won when he left us.


 

 

 

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10 Oct 2021 10:56:58
Congratulations to huge united fan Tyson fury, what a fight, what skill, what guts. gypsy king undisputed number 1! Let's give him an old Trafford homecoming ☺️?.

Tim_99

1.) 10 Oct 2021 11:20:36
Didn't see it Tim i'm pleased he won all the same.


2.) 11 Oct 2021 06:44:41
Saw the highlights. Fury has some will to win. Got to give credit to Wilder too. He fought with huge bravery and did his best.


3.) 11 Oct 2021 12:32:36
Salford, i wouldn't call it bravery, Wilder goes in much like ole, with just one plan, if that doesn't work then doom beckons. Wilder looked for the knockout throughout the match, he really boxed in round one and the rest was power vs sense. Sense triumphed.


4.) 11 Oct 2021 16:00:52
I think it takes courage to go in against a top boxer knowing you have to get lucky through a big punch to succeed and knowing all the time you are liable to a brutal beating.


 

 

08 Oct 2021 10:26:52
I see we have appointed our first director of data science. "The club aim to ramp up the use of analytics and his job will be to assist with transfers and study patterns of play".

Can someone explain to me what this actually means and if it will be beneficial to us moving forward?! I know the use of analytics is polarising in American sports as detractors say it's overused, and basing decisions on numbers doesn't factor in various real world scenarios.

Found the article on the daily mail and I'm not very clued in on the subject so I'll bow to others superior knowledge.

Tim_99

1.) 08 Oct 2021 10:44:26
Many on here think we don't have any patterns of play so maybe this technology will help to answer that one!

Most worrying part of this is why are you reading the Daily Mail?


2.) 08 Oct 2021 11:48:17
Can he play DM, just until the january transfer window, potential job swap with Fred? .


3.) 08 Oct 2021 12:08:31
Mail online…not sure really as it is very sensationalist and depressing currently. Be interesting to see what this role involves and whether it’s useful. Otherwise we will just be paying someone else who contributes little to our success.


4.) 08 Oct 2021 12:14:14
I think it’s more worrying if United did not have a data sciences person till now.


5.) 08 Oct 2021 12:43:48
Great idea. Next time we sign a duff player or manager it won't be any body's fault - just a computer error.


6.) 08 Oct 2021 13:17:47
The computer says No, is a bit different to no value in the market.


7.) 08 Oct 2021 13:44:48
'Some on here don't think we have patterns of play exclamation mark'.
Are you one of those gds2 or do you think we have patterns of play?


8.) 08 Oct 2021 13:57:09
They live amongst us GDS2.


9.) 08 Oct 2021 15:10:18
This is from the United website. "Dominic Jordan, an experienced data scientist with a background in geospatial analytics, will be tasked with improving the way we connect and analyse the vast amounts of data generated across our football operations.

Dominic joins United from Manchester-based N Brown Group, where he led a 30-strong team of data scientists, engineers and analysts optimising the operations of one of the UK’s largest online retailers. Previously, he worked for a US-based world leader in population movement analytics, developing algorithms to help monitor the flow of people and vehicles in transport systems".


10.) 08 Oct 2021 15:50:45
Great another non football expert.


11.) 08 Oct 2021 19:33:32
If you put something in quotation marks at least quote me correctly, I said ‘many’. It was just tongue in cheek Kenneth stop taking everything so seriously, keeping up your record of responding in a derogatory way to one of my posts though, never stop.

I actually think we have a pattern of play and a way of playing, a plan A so to speak, I just don’t think it’s very good.


12.) 09 Oct 2021 00:01:35
GDS2, What is it?


13.) 09 Oct 2021 08:16:21
We have a patten of sorts but its so easy to play against and nullify - we play ddg> maguire> shaw> half way line> across field> matic > awb> forward to halfway line > stumbles > loses it then scrambles back to defend>.


14.) 09 Oct 2021 08:19:42
MancMan, it's the DIY (do it yourself) pattern.

Ole just picks the team and the rest is up to the players?.


15.) 09 Oct 2021 08:36:56
Funkypigeon, Ole is unhappy that you decoded his pattern of play?.

It really looks so intricate with all those arrows in there.


16.) 09 Oct 2021 08:43:57
It’s a 4-2-3-1 formation, the 2 in the middle are meant to do the hard work, win the ball and get it to the front 4, the full backs should provide the width and help out the wingers.

It’s just all too slow with no intensity and despite it not working we seem to be sticking with it.


17.) 09 Oct 2021 09:06:49
That's a formation not patterns of play.
The coding of the team is non evident in any aspect of the game except goal keeping which is special-ist and does not involve our idiots.
If there is a lack of understanding of what patterns of play are then that explains why you might think there is some.


18.) 09 Oct 2021 09:07:14
Sadly the midfield two can’t successfully pass forwards (or sideways for that matter) so the plan breaks down.


19.) 09 Oct 2021 09:50:11
GDS2 surely you are aware that what you explained isn't a pattern of play? Where are the angles, who makes the runs, who presses, who drops back when fullbacks attack, who plays the one twos and where?


20.) 09 Oct 2021 10:59:29
Its not just training the players in patterns of play, but also getting them to identify when those patterns are happening in a game and to react accordingly.


21.) 09 Oct 2021 11:18:56
LPU - lol its so blatant to see and counter against- if i can see it surely any coach should. We can't or don't change mid games which good teams do/ can and are so predictable. Every match we start like this and control for 10-15 mins, the opposition work it out and slow the play down to frustrate when they can and press the next player that we are passing to. Fred can't work it out he must be in the corridor with matic sharing the dunces hat because they still play passes to guys with 2/ 3 players on them.
Every waking day, i progress more and more to the ole out camp as the guy is clueless but, he must take the P**s poor coaches with him.


22.) 09 Oct 2021 11:25:42
Funkypigeon, I agree.

I mean at least bring in better assistants and coaches if you are going to persist with Ole.

We have a outdated Phelan and the rest have little to no experience.

The incompetency from top to bottom is so frustrating.


23.) 09 Oct 2021 11:34:08
Bloody hell I didn’t think I needed to explain my whole post in a Shappy style with 26 paragraphs explaining it all and even if I did some of you would tell me I’m wrong so I’ll leave it there, have a nice day.


 

 

07 Oct 2021 10:12:55
According to some reports pogba wants to sign the 400k a week deal on offer from united. Not sure how I'm supposed to feel about that to be honest. Think it's best he goes but it's looking less likely at the minute.

On a side note I see the glazers sold 9.5m shares and raked in 137m on them, up 15.7m since ronnies return. Maximising their own income as usual I see. Good business for them but as always, when they do something (sign Ronaldo) it's usually done to benefit themselves. They are selling now when the value is at a peak, if results are bad over the next month those figures will drop dramatically. They really aren't a bit slow.

Tim_99

1.) 07 Oct 2021 10:23:28
He will leave on a free.

Gets to go to Real Madrid with a bumper pay packet fir him and Minio, plus join Camavinga and probably Mbappe and Garland.

Don’t blame him - why wouldn’t you?


2.) 07 Oct 2021 11:10:46
He might hang on 6 months and go to Newcastle for 700k per week.

No doubt all the football authorities and the fans -especially the fans- who castigated the "big six" over the Super league (quite rightly) proposals will be turning a blind eye to new foreign owners with links to let's say unsavoury behaviour.


3.) 07 Oct 2021 11:26:27
I agree that pogba should go, and Madrid makes sense. If he stays I can only see it being motivated by money.

As for the Newcastle takeover, I see amnesty international are calling for a change to the fit and proper persons test. Newcastle fans will riot if the goalposts are moved again, they already think the other clubs have a pick on them. Seems like it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, as long as you have money.


4.) 07 Oct 2021 11:39:52
I'd let him off, even it means he walks away on a free.

We;re better off without him.


5.) 07 Oct 2021 11:46:14
Would a better Manager get more out of him? I really don’t know. He showed real potential in his first year but Jose fell out with him. He’s shown flashes under Ole but not delivered consistently. Is it the formation, is there a better way of playing him as clearly he is a very talented boy?

The grapevine says he’s popular, works hard, but the issue we have seen is lack of consistency. It’s very frustrating as he should be up there with the best and yet he disappoints too often for United.

Also, £400K a week is likely to cause issues with other players but nothing new there I guess.


6.) 07 Oct 2021 13:03:17
hes approaching 29 let him leave

hes a hype train.


one of the most overrated players ever can do good thing every now and again, amazes me how people label him world class.

he wouldn't lace park or osheas boots.


7.) 07 Oct 2021 14:34:21
Talented player no doubt, but I don't think he's worth the trouble.

From everyone around the club he's a popular, hard working lad. But I just don't know where or how he fits into our team. I've often seen him described best as a "Mezzala" which I suppose is something close to a "free 8". In that he needs to be free to drop deep to collect the ball and find space, but at the same time free to move into the final third.

The problem is that to do that you kind of need to set up your team around that. You can't play with a No.10 as they would often find themselves in the same areas during an attack, while the lack of defensive cover also causes problems.

Pep found a system that worked with two free 8's, but to make it work he required the wide forwards to stay wide and the full backs to tuck in along side the CDM to make a narrow three in front of the CB's with the width coming from the wide forwards.

The problem for us is we don't have the players to replicate such a system.

Realistically the best way to fit Pogba in the line up is to play him instead of Bruno, or to try and crowbar him in wide left. He isn't defensively diligent enough to play as one of the two in the double pivot.

Our side has evolved away from needing Pogba, as such there is no natural place for him in the starting 11 other than instead of Bruno. Which doesn't make any sense.

So giving him a huge contract to continue to be a problem or a bit part player seems stupid. Which makes me very confident that we will do it. The club would rather make a rod for their own back than have egg on their face if Pogba were to leave for free.


8.) 07 Oct 2021 22:06:51
Personally I would rip the midfield up and start again (apart from Fernandes) amd for that money let him go. However, if he stays it should be on the basis that we get the right player to play in with him and Fernandes otherwise what is the point. if that is the young French lad or the AC Milan chap I don't actually care. just build the midfield around those 2 and get the best player in to make up the 3.
Then have McTominy and others as subs or rotational pieces.


9.) 07 Oct 2021 22:34:44
He will stay imo.


10.) 07 Oct 2021 22:14:10
AJH, I think Pogba is one of the most gifted players I have ever seen at the club during my lifetime. He's got everything you would want, he is athletic and phenomenal vision and technique. I just don't think he has it in him to really roll the sleeves up and do the dirty work, the stuff that doesn't get you in the headlines. It may be a mistake to renew, and I think if he does it is because he won't have the options to him that he expected perhaps?

Since he's came, it has pretty much been about unlocking Pogba and we have had different systems and now two different managers try. If he had some more defensive discipline to his game, he would be perfect in our midfield 2, or else in a midfield 3. For me we shoehorn him into the side a lot, and I think there will come a point for Ole or any other manager to be brave and pick our best team, rather than our best eleven individuals and that imo might have Pogba on the bench.


11.) 08 Oct 2021 09:00:47
Im with Brad, start again with the midfield.

Get rid of the lot of them; Pogba, Fred, Mctominay, DVB, Matic.


 

 

05 Oct 2021 14:12:12
Someone on here yesterday, can't remember who said watch the club give new deals to carrick, McKenna etc after phelan. Well according to the mail that's what's about to happen. Are we seriously that stupid, mikes deal wasn't up until the end of the season, same for those two so why give them new deals now. Let the season play out and if it goes pear shaped then let them go. Now we will have to pay off all 4 if they are sacked, it's looking like we are doubling down on our decision to keep ole, board trying to prove they were right rather than monitoring the situation and adjusting as we go. Ed002 has called the decision makers amateurs I can think of some other stronger words that fit them better.

Tim_99

1.) 05 Oct 2021 14:25:40
Further proof that the club at least currently are backing the manager.

I suppose they extended Ole's deal in the summer and now they need to extend his backroom staff's deals as well. What is surprising is that Phelan appears to have been a bigger priority than Carrick and McKenna. Or maybe his deal was just easier to sort.

Either way this doesn't appear to be the actions of a club that think they may be looking for a new manager some time soon.

I can't see Ole going before Christmas, mostly likely not until after the close of the January transfer window. They won't want to risk having to dip into the transfer market for a new manager so soon.

My view is the same, they will likely wait until top 4 is impossible, unless things really badly go off the rails beforehand.


2.) 05 Oct 2021 14:43:45
I don't know what the point is of people complaining about these new deals. What do you expect? Ole is our manager. Do you really think that they should undermine him by refusing to give contracts to the background team of his choosing. Yes I agree Ole isn't good enough to be our manager, but, as much as I enjoy this forum, such posts really border on ridiculous.


3.) 05 Oct 2021 14:59:55
Contracts only mean how much we pay them off when the inevitable happens. Considering we are paying several hundred grand a week for certain players to warm a bench, I wouldn't worry too much about the costs.
Didnt sacking Jose cost us £20million, so I suspect paying off Ole and his team will be chicken feed in comparison.


4.) 05 Oct 2021 15:11:58
It was 20 Million and the cost of his 3 x buses good :)


5.) 05 Oct 2021 15:13:51
Plus I would think there is get out clauses or figures for pay offs involved, just because people hear the word contract it really don’t mean nothing at all, it certainly won’t make the difference on if Ole goes or not or even when, and a bit pointless even saying it would, unless someone on here as read that contract it’s pointless to speculate and really is just a drop in the ocean.

So honestly makes not one bit of difference to the situation, don’t mean they or anyone is staying or going.


6.) 05 Oct 2021 15:16:15
Meant to read good not good.


7.) 05 Oct 2021 15:30:31
Extending contracts to coaching staff is not something to indicate the direction of the club. It would not be a massive payoff in the grand scheme of things, but would be more telling and damaging if the club didn’t deal with the contractual situation at the expected moment for the coaches. Failing to deal with it at an expected time, would flag very widely that Ole was a goner. So I am not surprised at all at the coaches extension on contracts. There may even be clauses on payoff in them as standard, we don’t know. However, they are not an indicator in my book as to what will happen to the manager, even if Shappy claims they are. I am not getting over excited by them either way.


8.) 05 Oct 2021 16:33:46
How big of an extension did Jose sign before being fired?

Indication of nothing.


9.) 05 Oct 2021 16:51:08
Red Man, I'm certainly not excited by it. I think it probably is time for a change.

I backed Ole as I felt he was just about hitting par with the squad at his disposal and in the context of the league and the club's he was up against.

Yet this summer we have added 3 world class players in Ronaldo, Varane and Sancho. While we are still struggling with performances. That is an indication that Ole has peaked. He has reached as far as he can and he doesn't have the ability to lift this team to what it is capable of. No shame in that, I'm sure Ole is trying his best, but his best as a manager just isn't good enough for where we want to be.

He's had 10 games this season, 7 league games, 2 UCL and a league cup game. 10 games into a season we should be seeing signs of improvement at least equal to the level of quality that came into the team this summer. We aren't.

Personally I'd like to see this dealt with asap. I don't want to see this drag on and on. In an ideal world Ole would have been relieved of his duties on Sunday, then we could have hired the new manager during the international break ready for the tough games ahead. At the very least new manager bounce might win us the key important games against our main rivals coming up.

But to do that the club would need to be competent, they would need to be forward thinking and planning. They'd need to know which managers they would like to replace Ole with and have some sort of a plan.

They don't, they will give his backroom staff new contracts thus increasing any settlement cost if they do need to sack the manager. They will then trundle on until UCL qualification is impossible and they can reduce his and his staffs payoff by 50%. Then they will look around at that time to see who's going cheap/ free to hire and then go after the biggest name currently unemployed.

I suppose the savings grace is England did well at the Euro's and Southgate wasn't sacked, otherwise it'd be him I'd expect they'd go for.


10.) 05 Oct 2021 17:22:59
2 world class no way even you can stretch Sancho into world class bracket Shappy.

{Ed025's Note - im with you jack, at least at the minute..


11.) 05 Oct 2021 17:27:54
You also have no idea that they don’t have managers already on a short list or even closer, your speculating they don’t that’s all.

Only 2 world class signings hardly 3…. no way even you can say Sancho is world class on the back of good performances for Dortmund!

Back room staff new contracts does not matter one way or other, you have no idea what’s wrote in those contracts, it might only say whilst Ole in your manager, it could say absolutely anything. You have no idea.


12.) 05 Oct 2021 17:49:53
Shappy

For once I don’t disagree with much of that. Shock, horror all round.

My worry is Southgate as well.

In the middle of the run of games we have is Watford, who have just appointed Ranieri, a league winning coach. That’s Watford, who have attracted a coach of a good standard, better than us. Ok, he wouldn’t be right for us, but it shows how a club can be decisive and attract a decent coach/ manager. Talking about dead cat bounce, we need to watch that game against Watford, because I suspect we are over confident expecting to win.

Contracts at United are something we know nothing about. Some may have clauses about leaving before the final date, so no point in getting wound up about them. Yes greater settlement costs is likely, but the message to all if they hadn’t renewed could have made things very difficult indeed. So they did them.

The club seem to appear to support the manager to the hilt, however, we all thought that about the last three managers. Anyone with an idea about football, will realise the manager talks absolute rubbish at press conferences and is not bonding the team as a team after 3 years. They bought Ron and Varane, the board etc expect improvement, they will not want to hear the top players are less than impressed with the standard of management. If that is the case, it is not so secure as Ole thinks it is. Toying with selection is one thing for SAF after 12 of his 13 titles, totally something else when Ole is tinkering and not winning.

We have to endure more of this when as you say he should have been gone Sunday morning.


13.) 06 Oct 2021 10:21:25
Over the past 3 seasons Sancho has been in the top 5 every season across Europe's top 5 leagues for combined goals and assists.

Which means at most only 4 players across the 5 best leagues in Europe have directly contributed more goal contributions than him in any of the past three seasons.

So to say he hasn't been performing at a world class level would mean you'd believe there are only at most 4 world class forward players in Europe's top 5 leagues.


 

 

03 Oct 2021 20:59:47
2 weeks without Ole's Freestyle FC. I'm ready for it! Enjoy the International Break everyone ?.

Tim_99

{Ed014's Note - is it that bad that an International break is better than watching United Tim? ?


1.) 03 Oct 2021 21:39:17
Ed, it’s that bad that I’m worried about Arsenal overtaking us soon ?.

{Ed014's Note - imagine if that happened! ??


2.) 04 Oct 2021 04:36:38
Ed014, I guess it's a lot more fun for neutrals and even the opposition fans when watching us play.

{Ed014's Note - every time I watch you I honestly can’t believe how poor you are mate.

Luck and DDG have been on your side far to often already.


3.) 04 Oct 2021 07:08:58
Ed014, agree with you.

DDG getting back to some form is a blessing in disguise otherwise we would be further down the table.

{Ed014's Note - he’s definitely turned a corner again with his form which has been a big plus.

For once a good call by Ole as the clamour was for Henderson to play and he is far to overrated for me at this point in his career.


4.) 04 Oct 2021 08:16:03
Ed14

It wasn’t a good call by Ole. Ole said Henderson would start as No1 this season, however, he got C.V. so Ole had to play DDG. DDG played well and kept his spot.


5.) 04 Oct 2021 10:04:36
Yeah great; Andorra. Can't wait.


6.) 04 Oct 2021 14:48:00
We now got to turn our attention to Gareth……. (who Ole is clone off, have they ever been seen in same room? ) . More boring play boring to watch, OK we might score a goal against a local baker and candlestick maker, even Sancho might be able to play well against them! But it’s more of the same for me, I don’t see a difference, I am just living in Hope that please please don’t give us Southgate at united after Ole, that will just be too much to take
Koeman be out of work soon
Maybe Carlo too, possibly Poch as well will either of them clubs want Ole…. Nope or Gareth Nope….


7.) 04 Oct 2021 15:30:14
Jack,

Is there anybody you do like within football?


8.) 04 Oct 2021 15:55:52
Well your not in Football GDS so don’t just relate to football.


 

 

 

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Proper coaching at united? Give your head a wobble mate 🤣 it will never happen 😜.

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29 Aug 2021 21:28:50
Wouldn’t surprise me, we have a habit of rewarding mediocrity. James seems like a good lad and he works v hard but the quality just isn’t there. I’d see if Leeds want him on loan and go from there.

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28 Aug 2021 21:11:32
Heading to feyenoord by the looks of it. Interesting move, not sure it benefits him greatly by playing in the eredivisie but at least he should get the game time.

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27 Aug 2021 09:58:01
Is that awb’s fault Ken or the coaching staff?

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26 Aug 2021 23:59:38
So I’m assuming that letting him go won’t help us bring anyone else in as there’s no fee involved. What’s the point then? Other than leaving us short in another area where we lack quality. The decision making is abysmal.

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14 Oct 2021 11:59:16
Echo that shappy, wishing him a speedy and full recovery. I’ve had numerous close family members get cancer diagnosis over the last few weeks, with the prognosis better for some than others. It’s an awful thing that effects the whole family so I wish them all the very best.

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08 Oct 2021 12:08:31
Mail online…not sure really as it is very sensationalist and depressing currently. Be interesting to see what this role involves and whether it’s useful. Otherwise we will just be paying someone else who contributes little to our success.

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Ole reminds me more of a turn it off and back on again, kind of guy ?.

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07 Oct 2021 11:26:27
I agree that pogba should go, and Madrid makes sense. If he stays I can only see it being motivated by money.

As for the Newcastle takeover, I see amnesty international are calling for a change to the fit and proper persons test. Newcastle fans will riot if the goalposts are moved again, they already think the other clubs have a pick on them. Seems like it doesn’t matter who you are or what you do, as long as you have money.

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05 Oct 2021 13:55:36
It could happen as it did last year and previous, where in the big games where we are underdogs we pull out a result. You have to feel though that pep, klopp etc will have worked out what we do and will have a different approach. i. e. let us have the ball more so we don’t sit in as much then wait for the inevitable mistake and punish us. We sit back against the big teams and counter, if that’s not an option then we are in trouble.

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