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09 Oct 2025 09:24:30
Anyone seen the post by Turki alalshikh? Seems to be saying United are close to selling to a new investor. Whether that's full sale or just extra funding who knows. Might also just be bs for publicity. What do we think?
1.) 09 Oct 2025 13:49:50
Believe there was a clause in the Ratcliffe deal that after a certain period allowed the Glazers to sell and Ratcliffe would be forced to sell his holding for the price per share the Glazers agreed.
Anything that gets the Glazers out and debt paid off in full will mean popping Champagne corks
The next question is whether the prospective buyer has enough money or is it just the Glazers want to raise more money by selling more shares but not concede control. Not completely sure on the company structure but think if Ratcliffe were to buy more shares that took him over 30% he may be required to offer to all shareholders the same price per share in a full takeover. Hence why he sits at below 30%. Unless there is a clause saying they can’t, then as long as they retain overall 51% the Glazers may sell shares above that level to someone else and pocket the next load of cash. The club won’t benefit until they and the debt are gone completely. A happy day.
2.) 09 Oct 2025 15:25:30
The freeze period ended around mid August RedMan. The 1958 were planning a protest before the Arsenal game but cancelled due to some positive feedback from fans regarding signings and the new training centre. I found it interesting the SJR would put so much money into a project when potentially he could be forced sell his shares. Apparently he gets the opportunity to match any offer the Glazers recieve. I posted that it felt like something was in the pipeline. It’s interesting an individual like Turki Alalshikh would post something like this but no idea if it has any substance. I also, perhaps reading too much into it, found the wording of ‘investors’ rather than buyers/ owners interesting and maybe deliberate?
There has also been no movement from the 1958 recently who have been so vocal and active in their protests to the Glazers. You do wonder if they have been briefed that something is happening?!
OR this could all be nonsense and we are getting excited about the Glazers being gone for nothing ?.
3.) 10 Oct 2025 08:46:58
Probably linked to investment in the stadium.
4.) 10 Oct 2025 11:12:21
Someone buying up all the seat licences?
5.) 10 Oct 2025 14:15:39
turki says a lot of stuff. would not spend too much on what he says. He likes the attention.
6.) 10 Oct 2025 15:50:24
If only this were true….
7.) 10 Oct 2025 21:09:52
redseven are you for real? The Glazers are awful, but wanting to be a pawn in a sportswashing operation isn't something I'd like to see happen.
8.) 11 Oct 2025 11:16:09
I'll be very happy to see the back of the Glasers. They have offered nothing to our club but have taken plenty from us.
That said I am cautious over who it is who eventually buys them out. I'm overall pleased with how INEOS have managed things since they bought into the club. I wouldn't want any new ownership to rock the boat with that. Ideally a change in ownership would either see a total buyout by INEOS, or they at least own the controlling stake in the club so as to not complicate the running of the club.
We have to remember that anyone prepared to pay the eye watering costs of buying us will be doing so with their own agenda, and that may or may not be in our best interests.
Be that sports washing or merely for financial gain. The last thing we need is a power struggle with billionaires squaring off against eachother across the board room.
Personally, what would be my ideal situation is for INEOS to increase their stake to around 70% or more, then maybe a minority stakeholder comes in with around 30% stake. Meaning we are shot of the Glasers, but there isn't going to be a power struggle, or change in how the club is currently being run. INEOS owning a significant majority over anyone else makes things far more secure.
I have a feeling that Sir Jim might set things up and in place for some kind of partial fan ownership held in trust for after he dies. Meaning his legacy will be rebuilding the club and then giving it back to the fans. INEOS is suspect will still own a majority and controlling stake, but the rest being fan owned.
9.) 11 Oct 2025 12:44:51
Nothing could be worse than the Glazers and the debt they have saddled the club with.
If somebody agrees a deal with the Glazers, Ratcliffe will have the opportunity to match it. I’m still not completely sold on INEOS, though, so whether he does or he doesn’t, I’ll be glad to see the back of the yanks.
10.) 11 Oct 2025 14:30:01
You mention sportswashing but conveniently forget to mention the awful history of the glazer family in American politics DonRed?
Extremely large contributors to the Bush presidental campaign, which eventually led to an illegal war that killed millions?
Its only fair to mention both, two cheeks of the same arse as far as I care, but you must be fair. Again, I absolutely do not agree with sport washing nor would I endorse for any of these c**** to own the club, who are undoubtedly involved in atrocities across planet. No to both!
11.) 11 Oct 2025 15:36:56
One is some prats I don't like. The other is a government funded operation to detract from horrific acts. You are equating direct involvement with indirect. That is whataboutism. I'm also not sure about your analysis of this. The Glazers give money to anyone that'll suit them. They funded a lot to both the Trump and Harris campaigns last time. You are stretching very much imo to put those two on the same footing.
12.) 11 Oct 2025 16:14:38
"Some prats I don’t like" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there and i’m not saying the UAE investors and the Glazers are identical, one’s a state trying to polish its image. But let’s not act like the Glazers are some neutral ‘just business’ owners either. Their money’s been tied up in nasty sh1t
If the point is moral high ground, there isn’t one. It’s picking between a sportswashing operation and parasites who’ve bled the club dry while funding war-mongers. Different flavours of the same ? sandwich. I just don’t want either anywhere near United. ”.
13.) 11 Oct 2025 16:18:45
And no, that’s not whataboutism, that’s just called having a memory. You don’t get to downplay one set of rotten politics just because it’s wrapped in a different flag.
If we’re talking morals, the Glazers have happily bankrolled people who create the mess, while the other lot are using football to cover theirs. One’s direct, one’s indirect, both are still rotten to the core.
One stinks less loud, that’s all. Still stinks.
14.) 12 Oct 2025 14:53:04
Saying that I shouldn't take sportswashing seriously because of some other indirect involvement via funding a politician before they took an action is pretty much the archetypical example of whataboutism.
15.) 12 Oct 2025 17:38:34
That’s not what I said at all. I never told you not to take sportswashing seriously, I said don’t act like the Glazers are some moral alternative. And no, that’s not whataboutism, pointing out that both sides are rotten isn’t deflection, it’s context.
16.) 12 Oct 2025 21:54:03
Scholes, Unless you are talking about something other than funding a political campaign you are equating two very different things. It is common - expected in fact - for rich people in the US to heavily donate to campaigns.
The Glazers as I said above heavily funded both Trump and Harris! It feels like you are searching for a reason to put them on equal footing with direct and actual evidence of human rights abuses by the groups funding these sports washing operations. I just don't see the equivalence you do. This, one is bad and the other is bad so why split hairs logic just isn't something I'm ever going to agree on.
17.) 20 Oct 2025 13:58:18
And let’s not be so naive to think Ineos and SJR are not in it for themselves either, like some are suggesting.
18.) 23 Oct 2025 05:07:01
Reality is, if whoever comes in will be skeletons in the cupboard but if they injecting money and United winning you same bunch will turn a blind eye…hypocrites.
19.) 24 Oct 2025 18:37:01
Notimesoon
Maybe your next persona could be shakesfistatcloud?
28 Sep 2025 12:40:06
Southgate rumours have begun. ??♂️.
1.) 28 Sep 2025 13:26:51
I don't want Southgate anywhere near the club, but I can't help but know deep down that he would of got results for us with this team.
2.) 28 Sep 2025 16:55:39
Not a fan either -but he would come in insist on 2 big centre halves, 2 decent full backs,3 in midfield. maybe 4-4-2 . but we would be a lot more solid and maybe start to look like a well coached team. At this point i'm just Amorim out full stop.
3.) 28 Sep 2025 20:32:49
Southgate's only relevant experience is the Premier League where his record reads: got Middlesborough relegated.
We will go down if we appoint Southgate. Regardless what the Atomic Kitten song said he really isn't the one.
4.) 28 Sep 2025 23:05:29
He would probably put his hands round the shoulders of the players and maybe get a better spirit and short term might see an improvement in results but I don't think he is an elite manager who would get us back the top. Let's take the pain now to get to a brighter future.
{Ed025's Note - maybe he should put his hands around their necks Salford?..
5.) 28 Sep 2025 23:33:54
I’d rather give it back to OGS for a go over Southgate.
6.) 29 Sep 2025 07:51:32
And have us see Maguire start every game? Along with Shaw? No thanks.
7.) 29 Sep 2025 11:26:18
How’s it any different to now Trumours?
8.) 29 Sep 2025 13:24:29
Eric79 I think that's exactly the point. So many people are fixated with formation. The issue is the personnel being chosen. Against Brentford we played 5 players that I would say are either not good enough or just not ready - Bayindir, Maguire, Dalot, Dorgu and Ugarte. That's almost half the team. We can get away with one off games where those players play, or even where just one or two of those are playing. The issue is that when we need a lift in our play, those players are just not good enough. Amorim really made a huge mistake with that line up. But he compounded it by not making a change.
9.) 29 Sep 2025 14:43:25
Also Glasner interview, not sure of details but think in German rag. (Not drag) . Although still not sure it’s the best long term if it changes focus away from the leadership team.
01 Sep 2025 06:45:00
Ornstein reporting Betis have agreed to sign Antony for £22m plus 50% sell on. No payoff on wages. Well done to the club for not caving on this after the stunt they pulled. Another Pratt gone. sancho please!
1.) 01 Sep 2025 07:47:54
Celebrations galore as it turns out Betis did have the money but were trying it on.
Is this the most satisfying deal of the transfer window, or will it be Sancho going to Villa for a something similar
And then Malacia, not heard much but I suspect he will go, then if we sign a GK, which of our GK will move on?
Busy day of outgoings.
2.) 01 Sep 2025 12:30:14
Glad we stood our ground.
3.) 01 Sep 2025 15:13:50
Tim why is he a prat.
I don't think he was good enough, but I never seen him not trying or giving his best.
Not his fault to be honest.
28 Aug 2025 17:39:51
Galatasary sniffing round lammens and had talks with him today. If we lose out on him then who? because we simply cannot continue with Onana and bayindir.
1.) 28 Aug 2025 17:56:19
You’re putting a lot of faith in a young, untested keeper. No guarantee he’s any good or ready to be first choice.
There are some videos around of good saves he's made. But have a look for the videos on his mistakes. In some clips he looks no better than Onana.
2.) 28 Aug 2025 18:06:03
Why haven’t we gone all in for Donnarumma? The last thing we need is an untested GK. Yes Donnarumma hasn’t played in the PL but surely if available we got to rival City after the rubbish show yesterday.
3.) 28 Aug 2025 18:10:58
Fall guy I’m not saying he’s the messiah just that he’s the only credible gk link we have so if we don’t get him do we have any other options. Continuing with what we have just can’t be an idea, I’d honestly start heaton if we don’t sign anyone.
4.) 28 Aug 2025 19:00:04
Singh,
Because he wants £300k a week and would be coming for the money, have we not learnt?
5.) 28 Aug 2025 20:40:35
Donnarumma isn’t the answer in my opinion. I don’t think he’s any better at crosses into the box. Although he is a better shop stopper. But he will want a ridiculous salary.
I’d look at Costa from Porto. Or just go and get Emi Martinez.
6.) 29 Aug 2025 08:25:51
We should sign Ederson from City. €15-20m for a keeper of his caliber is a steal. Can’t think of too many players who are better with their feet.
7.) 29 Aug 2025 09:28:53
Redseven, if we still had EtH as manager then Ederson might make some sense. Or if we had a manager who puts a lot of focus on playing out from the back with the keeper.
Yet that's not really Amorim's style, he doesn't need a playmaker keeper. He needs a good shot stopper who is strong in the air and commands his box.
The 343 shape should force teams to attack the wide areas with the middle of the pitch congested. That tends to lead to his team's facing more crosses than teams that play with a back four.
The problems we have with Onana and Bayindir is that both are weak in the air and tend to flap at crosses, and neither command their box well or communicate with their defence. Both can be reasonable shop stoppers (although Onana makes a lot of saves he had a tendency to push the ball back into danger, but does at least make the initial save) .
Ederson doesn't solve any of our problems with the keeper while adding a strength that isn't needed and wouldn't be made the most of.
8.) 29 Aug 2025 14:24:31
Maybe on paper, Shappy, but in reality, our current formation just leads to teams running straight through our midfield and attacking us head on. Our vulnerability from corners comes more from the poor positioning of our defenders than our keeper (although, dgmr, our keepers do suck) .
Ederson is a better shot stopper than any of current keepers and could walk right into the starting 11. Maybe Lammens will become an elite keeper, but Ederson is already at that level, and would cost around the same.
08 Aug 2025 09:15:09
Garnacho agrees terms with Chelsea according to Romano. If they want him then it's £45m-£50m or bog off. They will no doubt lowball us but we should stand firm, if they want him they pay, if not he can have fun in the reserves. U just know he's going to antagonise us even more now and god knows what he'll do when he's gone. Such a wee prat.
1.) 08 Aug 2025 10:27:09
Like Brentford did to us and you moaned about that. ??.
2.) 08 Aug 2025 11:15:19
I get that fans are annoyed at the prices we buy and sell players for. However, I'm glad that those decisions aren't in the hands of those fans. There really is no place in any profession for pettiness or spite.
What do we really stand to benefit from playing silly games? It's highly unlikely to get us significantly more money. The most likely outcome is we get stuck paying a player we don't want and who doesn't want to be here for another year. A player whose attitude has been found lacking even when he was happy and wanted to be here, I can't imagine that attitude will improve much if he's made to spend a year in the reserves. Let alone the potential damage he could do while mixing with the young and impressionable kids in our academy and under 23's.
Then next summer after a horror year how much do you think he will be worth?
We might think he is worth 50m or 60m, but the reality is he is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for him. If that is 30m then he's worth 30m.
There really is no point being silly about it. When we sell players, with only a few exceptions, we are selling down not up. These are players who for whatever reason are not wanted or valued by Manchester United, a club still considered a top side by most in football.
Why would anyone pay a big fee and big wages for a player that Manchester United don't feel is good enough?
We aren't selling Garnacho because of a lack of talent, we are selling him because his attitude and behaviour is problematic and he isn't willing to do what the manager wants him to do on the pitch.
If Chelsea (a rival) wants to take that problem into their dressing room and give us a chunk of money to do so then great.
Not only does that remove a problem player from our dressing room.
It brings money into the club, money needed to strengthen the squad.
It also adds a player into a rivals dressing room who is know to cause problems. A player known to leak team news, a player known to be late, a player known to cause controversy with social media posts, a player known to have caused tension with teammates, and a player who is known to have not followed the managers instructions.
Yes based only on talent he is a player who strengthens Chelsea, but overall he is a player who weakens them. I don't see him lasting more than 2 years there.
Take whatever we can get and reinvest it on a player like Baleba.
3.) 08 Aug 2025 11:43:55
The key difference here is that Brentford would probably have been happy for Mbeumo to stay. We are attempting to push Garnacho out of the door (deservedly so, but still) . Chelsea know we are desperate to sell before the end of the window and that the player won’t go anywhere else. We either sell to them at a price they’re prepared to pay or get stuck with a player who the manager doesn’t want, and whose value will be significantly lower come the next transfer window.
4.) 08 Aug 2025 12:53:45
The fact that there seems to be no queue to acquire Garnacho would suggest that he is not highly thought of in the football world in general. £35m would represent pure profit plus a reduction in the wage bill by £2.5m a year. He could come good, he has certain attributes. Chelsea, which has a much better record at selling players on, could be gambling on future profit as much as Garnacho providing ab immediate boost to their already excellent squad.
5.) 08 Aug 2025 13:15:55
I am not even convinced his talent or potential is worth more than 30 million, especially when RA criticised and chastised him so much, which in the scheme of things was rather stupid, he gone backwards that’s for sure, I am not sure he gets any better and I certainly don’t think he strengthens Chelsea by any means! They tend to try these players if not good enough move them on….
6.) 08 Aug 2025 13:19:29
I would expect us to sell Garncacho for a similar figure to what they got for Maduake and paid for Gittens.
Both players have had reasonable seasons over the past couple of years, young with potential but not set the work alight just yet.
So, somewhere in the £40/ 45m bracket with some add ons feels about right.
At that price point for Chelsea it is relatively low risk. he does not perform over the next couple of years they will sell on.
If we get more well done.
7.) 08 Aug 2025 13:20:33
Chelsea will be quite happy to sign him for £30m spread over 5 years for PSR then sell him next year for the same amount to allow them to spend big again as all the money hits 1 year accounts so would allow potentially £150m spend based on current rules. Seems to be how they're operating at the moment.
8.) 08 Aug 2025 15:26:44
Chelsea sold made for £50m + and paid the same for gittens. Garnacho is around that level so his fee should be similar. We can’t just sell him for nothing. That’s my point. Also consider the fact that if the roles were reversed they’d want us to pay a decent fee. Anyways hopefully a deal can be done and one we r happy with.
9.) 08 Aug 2025 15:51:37
For me I agree Garnacho isn’t worth £50/ 60/ 70M however, the fees that have been paid for players has set a precedent. Arsenal brought the Chelsea lad for around £50m I believe so we should be saying £50M. I don’t think we need to cave in easily and just accept a low offer. Garnacho wants to move, it’s in his interest to move with a World Cup year so I think we are in a better position to get a better fee.
10.) 08 Aug 2025 16:26:26
They're has been a lot of clubs showing interest but he only wants to go to Chelsea so batted the others away.
Only 1 player under 21 had better stats than him last season. He is a good player but doesn't see eye to eye with the manager so he needs to go. i'm guessing somewhere around 35 to 45 including add ons we will get a small % of any future fees he generates for rest of his career as he has come through our academy.
11.) 08 Aug 2025 17:16:48
To be fair, that is a very good point. I think if we hold firm on our price, Garnacho would put in a transfer request to force through a move. Not the best look for the club, but given the way that he’s behaved and the fact that he’s refusing to even entertain a move to anybody but a top four rival, I think most would agree that we’re right to stand our ground.
12.) 08 Aug 2025 18:58:23
Hold out for the right price. He should be told he can't go below certain price. We must not let other clubs bully us. Chelsea killed us with Mount price, who was in his last year of contract and also wanted to go.
13.) 08 Aug 2025 23:46:11
I think many are going to be surprised with what we sell for on all 4 players, I expect us to generate £100m to £110m, Ratcliffe did a good PR Jon on our finanical position compared to the reality. They will either pay what we want or those players will stay.
14.) 09 Aug 2025 07:31:59
No way they stay and every other club knows that, RA put paid to that with the treatment and that’s down to his naivety and the club, let’s hope they learnt from that, but whatever concrete offers come in for them they are gone, 35m probably buys Garnacho, bit less buys Antony, or even a loan for him any offer buys Sancho, none of these are great players and none of them had much interest in, which says it all, I don’t by that Garnacho only wants Chelsea yes might be preferred but not exclusive, but no one else made an attempt with offers have they, so just press talk.
We backed ourselves into awful corner.
I could see a Mainoo offer come in though and him gone any luck an Ugarte offer but can’t see that….
15.) 09 Aug 2025 10:38:40
No, we havent. Its not like Garnacho holds all the cards. If he stays, he might lose a year, he won't play at WC and he will be able to get lower contract, since he wasnt playing for a year. Chelsea want to sell Jackson and still ask silly money. Be realistic.
16.) 09 Aug 2025 11:33:38
We get what we can. The old team almost wrecked the club and here we are trying to demand the exact same amount as we massively overpaid for a completely different player. Not terribly scientific. I’ve a lot of faith in this new team/ approach and have no doubt they will do the best they can and what’s best for the club. Not some bonkers eye for an eye especially as we actually poked ourselves in the eye with Mount.
17.) 09 Aug 2025 19:19:13
It is not eye for an eye, it is what Garnachos price is, what players of similar level went for. The Mount part is just to show that a club can stay strong in their valuation of the player and not sell low, even in a "bad" position.
18.) 09 Aug 2025 22:14:58
The manager wants Garnacho gone, he needs to be gone to show that the manager has the power now not the players and that if you don't play ball you are gone. Staying tough on Garnacho will hopefully keep others in line in the future.
United can't hold out for a bigger fee here because everyone knows this.
Mount was very different, he was a player that always gave his all, you never heard him of causing waves or giving less than 100%, his managers loved him, he just priced himself out of Chelsea and being homegrown solved a problem for Chelsea.
19.) 10 Aug 2025 07:48:47
And what excuse you have for Jackson? They want him gone, but still want 75m.
Garnacho will be gone from the 1st team, but it doesn't have to be a low sell. As i already said, it is not just up to him or what he wants.
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30 Nov 2025 14:10:10
Great result that and a fantastic way to cleanse the soul after that showing on Monday night lol. I honestly give up trying to work this team out, had us winning comfortably on Monday and losing today yet the results were vice versa. Anyways can enjoy the rest of today’s games now. ?.
1.) 30 Nov 2025 15:50:15
Yes, all very odd Tim, and a pattern repeated elsewhere. Foresalt smash Liverpool. and then lose to Brighton. I'll say again, its a weaker league this year which makes things good for us. We have improved but with so many teams being inconsistent, it does feel like top 4 is a possibility.
Arsenal look a class ahead of the rest, everyone else seems to be all over the place. Competitive, weaker, whichever works for you.
2.) 30 Nov 2025 18:16:26
There’s like 10 teams separated by 3-5 points. I’ve never known a league like it. Keeps it interesting that’s for sure!
3.) 30 Nov 2025 18:26:11
Yep, ken says competitive, I say weak, but whichever one of us is right, a decent run has a big impact right now. I can't see Sunderland staying so strong, and Brighton will do well to stay top 6 sonics all tomplay for.
The big difference for me this season is we seem to be able to come from behind to draw or win, that's a big improvement.
4.) 30 Nov 2025 22:05:46
Its much more competitive whichever way you li at it. Epl teams will all get out of the league phases in Europe I think. The mid teams are stronger that incudes us.
The gulf city Liverpool and arsenal had is tightened due to them not being able to do over teams .
The 3 epl managers touted to replace amorim all sit below him.
Arsenal do look strong but I'm not convinced they will get too far away from the pack.
3 wins on the bounce for any team in top half will put you in cl place probably.
3 defeats amd your in bottom half but still in touch of a top 4 spot.
I expect it will thin out to 7 or 8 teams competing for 3rd and 4th possibly 5th for cl spots after about 30 games. I still think we will be in that 7 or 8 teams. It will be a bit of a lottery. Lots of ups and downs for most teams.
Our last 7 is 3 wins 2 draws 1 defeat. The same again in our next 7 will keep us very much in touch I feel.
29 Nov 2025 18:17:41
Why couldn’t Everton have been that crap on Monday night? Lol. Organised, resolute and well drilled they were, tonight…all over the place! Typical ?.
1.) 29 Nov 2025 19:44:05
Played against a better team today.
2.) 29 Nov 2025 21:03:15
Imagine how it will be when Mbeumo and Amad go to the AFCON.
3.) 29 Nov 2025 21:34:40
It's very worrying isn't it MH? I have a feeling we will be somewhere around where we finished last season by the time they get back.
I'm hoping I'm wrong.
4.) 30 Nov 2025 06:17:12
Think it says just as much about Everton as it does about us!
26 Nov 2025 21:54:37
We are actually living in a world where arnie slot could lose his job before Amorim… that would honestly have been inconceivable a few months back, but as time goes by it’s starting to look like a real possibility. Absolutely mad but it really wouldn’t surprise me, they have been awful! “Footballs a funny old game” never was a truer word said!
1.) 26 Nov 2025 22:35:09
It's not could, it's will. Slot will be sacked before Amorim. Sir Jim was very clear that Amorim will see out this season at least. There is little chance Slot will be employed at Christmas at this rate.
2.) 26 Nov 2025 22:38:25
Bit like the chuckle brothers one as bad as the other at the minute only thing I'd say is slot is probably worse considering he is working with some of the best players in the league.
3.) 26 Nov 2025 23:34:33
Just one of those things at the moment, Liverpool for obvious reasons have higher expectations and standards than us at the moment.
That combined with the fact we have tried sacking managers over and over again means we are more inclined to stick with a failing manager and hope he comes good.
Lets just hope they picked the right guy, i have my doubts.
4.) 26 Nov 2025 23:43:34
I think the difference is this.
United's problems are player related, as in, they are not mentally strong enough, nor have the burning hunger and desire to succeed at a club like united or Liverpool, Amorim has these attributes in abundance and will see his tenure through and beyond as he weeds out the weak and builds a coherent team that churns out results.
Liverpool's problems are manager related. Slot has lost his dressing room and because he missed a beat releasing players like VVD and Salah during the summer, their player power is greater than Slots amongst the squad. He is destined to fail, we are watching what united were the last few years.
5.) 27 Nov 2025 07:11:52
You think that the players are really backing Amorin then or they just going through the motions the latter is my view
I seem to remember you wanting to have Zirkee as our striker this year! Problem is RA bought one in Sesko who is not great either, to go along with Dorgu who is useless.
RA was as much to blame for debacle against Everton as the players were.
Both managers are on par with each other, both should be on Rachel’s Benefits street.
6.) 27 Nov 2025 08:39:32
Je Suis (Maze login #77),
Yes I do believe that most of the players are playing for Amorim. There are some that are clearly falling away, and I suspect in a few more weeks, we will start to know which ones will be pushed out the door.
Yes I wanted Zirkzee to feed Cunha and Mbeumo, I think that would work very well.
But we didn't play those 3 did we, we played the ever useless Amad because Cunha is injured.
I'm not really sure the relevance of that point in your response though, but your usually posts are more often than not without substance.
7.) 27 Nov 2025 10:55:59
I see both sides, but the Everton defeat is squarely on RA’s shoulders. I think he got his team selection wrong, didn’t react to the red card, and his substitutions were baffling.
8.) 27 Nov 2025 15:05:21
Ever useless Amad, he seemed to me the only one actually having a go and been that way all season, in fact he played RWB reasonably well even though I said all along this position don’t suit him, plus he built a good relationship with Mbuemo what does our useless manager do…he breaks that up….
Zirkee would be useless in EPL if he was even feeding Kane and Halaand… he is 6 foot of weakness, too slow too weak misplaces so many passes and got no idea or ever got up to the speed of the EPL
RA was at fault terribly in this game and to then come out and say he needs to talk players through the game, tells me after a year then his coaching is useless too.
Terrible manager full stop….
I have not heard one professional past or present who don’t think RA really messed that game up…. it won’t go on much longer, the noises that the club backs him is just that Noise, not a cat in hells chance they mean it…. sooner he gone the better…. he clearly just wants robots to do it one way and not deviate… if you don’t your gone if you have any flair or take gambles your gone… he wants robots to play a system that is clearly not working after a whole year of coaching, that says more about the coaching then anything else, if you like certain players or not most are internationals and much better than what they are serving up under this manager…….
9.) 27 Nov 2025 18:01:09
We have been getting better under Amorim than any other manager we have had post Fergie. He is actually ridding the club of all the dross that the previous managers had assembled.
I called for the entire squad to be ripped to pieces at the start and get rid of half the players still on the teamsheet because they would keep doing what was served up against Everton and Forest and Spurs. Mentally weak, no desire, no hunger. They need to go, and hopefully January is now accelerating that process for most of them.
Zirkzee needs game time, however after his showing against Everton, he proved he does not have the desire or hunger to cement a place when provided an opportunity, so for me, he can also go.
10.) 27 Nov 2025 18:03:40
Watch the game again and only watch Amad, you will see what I see. He is turning into Bruno, trying to do it all himself, throwing his arms in the air, but he isn't even half the players Bruno is, he can also go to be honest.
Someone who throws their arms in the air instead of chasing down and getting the ball back is too weak for united.
11.) 28 Nov 2025 05:47:09
Not quite correct, we won more and come 2nd under Jose
We come 2nd under Ole
Even Van Gaal won a cup and finished higher
Now we win nothing play terrible slow football lowly league position too
If this is getting better I really don’t want to see what getting worse is like.
We moved on our assets for next to nothing
We can only play one way after a year of coaching!
12.) 28 Nov 2025 15:33:34
You just don't see it because you choose not to. It gives you a position to be negative and you are only here when we lose. Did you go on holiday when we won? Or were you planning your next login.
Pathetic.
13.) 29 Nov 2025 05:35:37
Take a look I was here after every win too, problem is you think every poster including me is Maze so your distorted by your affections for Maze you and GDS are both the same in fact it’s so extreme it’s concerning. bit like your love of Amorim and Zirkee.
18 Nov 2025 09:06:07
Sesko out for a month. With no recognised Cf Backup I would expect to see mbeumo playing through the middle, maybe mount at false 9 depending on the opposition. What does everyone else think?
1.) 18 Nov 2025 11:50:11
I expect it will either be Mount as a false 9 with Cunha and Mbuemo behind, or Mbuemo as the CF with Cunha and Amad behind.
Personally I'd prefer Mount, Cunha and Mbuemo with Amad at RWB, but I'm not an expert or coach so will trust RA knows what is best.
2.) 18 Nov 2025 14:46:20
My guess will be Cunha rotating with Zirkzee. Where is Obi these days?
3.) 18 Nov 2025 14:50:31
I expect it will be Cunha at 9 but switching positions with mount and mbueno like he has gone to many times already this season.
4.) 18 Nov 2025 17:44:41
Should be bruno false 9 and Mainoo in imo.
5.) 18 Nov 2025 19:56:55
He is stuck on bruno being a midfielder unfortunately.
6.) 18 Nov 2025 20:55:57
Mount is the obvious imo going on previous selections but who knows?
7.) 19 Nov 2025 10:27:08
Mount, Mbuemo and Cunha will be the starters. When Amad and Mbuemo go to AFCON then we may have an issue. Zirkzee is the obvious one to play more. However, Sesko may be back by then anyway. Wing back replacement for Amad is the bigger issue. I'd like to see Shaw play at LWB and then Dorgu can move right.
8.) 19 Nov 2025 12:21:03
Don't think Shaw is capable don but rest i'd agree with you.
08 Nov 2025 14:43:01
Ken these next words are for you ? another point today in a difficult away game in a place we've struggled lately, add that to similar last week an although not victory's it's 2 more points on the board. We definitely lose both those game last season. Is there plenty to work on? Yes. do we have key deficiencies? Yes.
but the team spirit and desire is coming back and that has been missing for a while. International break now and we go into it on the back of 11 points from 15, nobody would have saw us getting that a month ago so will happily take it. Enjoy your weekend everyone and let's hope we kick on again after the break.
1.) 08 Nov 2025 15:50:39
Improving in almost every respect Tim today's all you can ask for.
2.) 08 Nov 2025 16:08:50
Maybe 2 points from 6 will bring people back to reality, that two weeks ago we’re saying we will win the league this season, how daft was that! We have a striker who is actually not very good and not much better than Rasmus, we have poor wing backs and not great midfield.
3.) 08 Nov 2025 17:13:05
Draws usually go one of two ways: it feels like one point gained, or two points lost. Today certainly felt like one point gained.
The performance was poor, but the difference this time was we were able to fight until the very end with 10 men.
I'm not one to agree with Ken, but 11 points out of 15 is certainly an improvement.
Do I still have issues? Certainly. Sesko, for me, doesn't look better than Hojlund, and I don't see the obsession with using 5 substitutes every game, as today we were left vulnerable having to go down to 10. But, in spite of this, we ground out a result.
4.) 08 Nov 2025 17:22:03
Plus more shocking substitutions. No one can say that RA is very good at in game management I think he is truly awful with 90% of his substitutions that appear to make no sense at all…. sure many will defend him on here but how I really don’t know, nice guy, talks well but really he don’t even appear to be learning on the job.
5.) 08 Nov 2025 17:46:04
Who is Notimesoon?
Amorim is turning around the supertanker steaming full speed in the wrong direction,
There is positivity now, Amorim, Manager of the Month. We are improving and there is clearly team spirit.
6.) 08 Nov 2025 18:13:58
Think we all know who it is redman.
7.) 08 Nov 2025 20:04:38
We're definitely improving. Dorgu and Dalot are very limited in attack. I'd like to see Shaw out there when Martinez returns. The drop off when Casemiro comes off is alarming. Hopefully that can be addressed in January. We continue to play considerable portions of games with 2 or 3 players that are well below average.
It means when our better players have an off game - like Cunha today - it is very noticeable. But the resiliency in the team is great and I'm encouraged. We need to get wins on the board again but staying unbeaten is important.
8.) 08 Nov 2025 21:38:57
We have one game per week and a large squad. You have to play them. Good battling point today. This year the epl is very competitive and spurs are a bit of a bogey team for us recently. Until we complete the squad we can't expect a top 4 side.
We are no where near a top 4 side in reality, but they are almost there on recent form. Keep improving, bring a few in in Jan (please! ) And see how the season finishes.
9.) 09 Nov 2025 09:16:51
We will still win the league this year.
09 Oct 2025 09:26:37
Didn’t see your post and posted the same story. Probably bs but we can hope. Might also not be a full sale but just extra investment coming in for a percentage? Is that even possible?!
09 Oct 2025 09:25:32
It’s only good news if we improve like we all hope. If not it’ll be a long 3 years.
01 Sep 2025 12:13:28
Haven’t seen much of him but he has to be levels above what we already have. Just hope the manager has faith and puts him in straight away.
28 Aug 2025 18:10:58
Fall guy I’m not saying he’s the messiah just that he’s the only credible gk link we have so if we don’t get him do we have any other options. Continuing with what we have just can’t be an idea, I’d honestly start heaton if we don’t sign anyone.
08 Aug 2025 15:26:44
Chelsea sold made for £50m + and paid the same for gittens. Garnacho is around that level so his fee should be similar. We can’t just sell him for nothing. That’s my point. Also consider the fact that if the roles were reversed they’d want us to pay a decent fee. Anyways hopefully a deal can be done and one we r happy with.
06 Dec 2025 12:46:33
Great, so basically our ownership model is convoluted and indecisive. If true obviously!
05 Dec 2025 22:13:10
Is there any actual pressure on Amorim though dsg? Maybe from fans and the media but by all accounts the owners are content with him and have no intention of removing him. Love to know what statistics or data they are seeing that the rest of us arent.
30 Nov 2025 18:16:26
There’s like 10 teams separated by 3-5 points. I’ve never known a league like it. Keeps it interesting that’s for sure!
25 Nov 2025 21:28:19
My wee country’s greatest export and a true giant of the game. Doesn’t get as much recognition as pele, Maradona etc maybe because playing for Northern Ireland didn’t get him the international accolades. Those that know football though, they know Georgie was a great…and for northern Irish folk like me he was ‘simply the best’.
24 Nov 2025 23:40:45
Dalot is dreadful anywhere with dorgu not far behind. We play a system predicated on wing backs providing for our forwards and amad aside all our options are total crap.