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12 Mar 2020 12:16:17
BBC via marca stating that the champions league and europa league will be suspended because of the coronavirus, announcement imminent. Scare mongering or a possibility only time will tell.


1.) 12 Mar 2020 13:00:40
Tim it's a matter of when not if now. Real possibility that national leagues will be postponed as well.

2.) 12 Mar 2020 14:00:38
3 players from a pl team have apparently displayed symptoms, I think pl will have to do the same sooner rather than later.

3.) 12 Mar 2020 22:07:22
I don't mind if they have to. Lives matter more than a game. I just hope that all parties to the game get together to agree a sensible way forward and how they will decide what happens later so that titles / promotion / relegation issues and the Euros can be played at some future point.



13 Feb 2020 13:11:59
Chelsea agree to sign ziyech in the summer, good move I think. Ed002 are they still interested in sancho also? Does his possible move to us hinge on UCL qualification? On a side note it goes to show that work can continue outside of the window if clubs actually have a plan and are organised 😉.


{Ed002's Note - Unless there is a very significant change in the financial demands Chelsea will drop interest in Sancho. Manchester United are keen but the budget may not stretch but they could return with an offer.}

1.) 13 Feb 2020 14:20:29
thanks ed002.

2.) 13 Feb 2020 16:37:22
In your deductions, where do you suggest Sancho may end up Ed?

{Ed002's Note - It is largely down to one person and his demands, what the player is open to and whether or not Dortmund are willing to work on the price. If you look at the clubs as options, the player has made it clear a return to London and joining Chelsea would be his preferred choice, but they are not going to pay for the total package as it is costed right now. Manchester City are in a similar place financially as Chelsea - and don't see anywhere close to the value in the player. Liverpool would need to let go of Salah and commit a lot more money to make it viable - I can't see that is the plan and it would be disruptive and rather stupid if they went down that road. Real Madrid and Barcelona both have high end targets that will soak up significant funds and will be ready to go immediately they join - they are likely unimpressed by the risk associated with the potential benefits. As for Manchester United, they remain in turmoil with no direction and the player wants to move elsewhere - they could throw money at the problem but it would then mean they don't have the funds left to fix the more significant issues. Dortmund may try and work the Euros and him excelling to try and leverage more from the English sides - but that would be a high-risk plan for all. Else he stays at Dortmund. There will be a further discussion with one of these sides in the coming days - so right now it remains up in the air.}

3.) 13 Feb 2020 20:36:59
Ed if you don’t mind me asking what areas would you suggest United need to address the most? I understand the costs behind a deal for Sancho- but I would say we are crying out for a right winger, a striker and another midfield player. Would you agree?

{Ed002's Note - DM, CM, CM/AM, W/F and S are needed over coming transfer windows but I suspect the club will prioritise CM/AM (e.g. a Jack Grealish), S (e.g. Dries Mertens) and a W/F (e.g. Wilfied Zaha) and then a couple of pricey youngsters (e.g. Joe Gelhardt (F) and Jude Bellingham) - but realistically if you look at the amounts of money involved in such changes it makes little sense and looking closely at value for money - and it is hard to see. Maybe the sale of Pogba will be tougher than the club realise and the could be forced down the road of listening to which players Real Madrid or Juventus could offer in a deal - although Isco could well be used, he is not what is needed now. James could be an option for the W/F - and although Bale fits that role, wages would be a huge issue. So sorting out Pogba is a priority.}

4.) 13 Feb 2020 22:40:11
I think we should stay clear of Sancho spending minimum 100 million plus wages on a 20 year old is ridiculous

We should sell pogba and fix the issues in other areas first before we make an stupid offer for a plauer that doesn't want to play in Manchester.

{Ed002's Note - How would Manchester United get him so cheaply?}

5.) 14 Feb 2020 08:05:15
Sancho is clearly a very talented player. That said I'm not fully convinced he is the right style of wide player we need.

With Rashford cutting in from the left and Bruno often preferring to push forward in the inside right channel we really don't want a wide right player who is looking to cut in. It will just compress the space in the final third and give all of our forwards less space to play in. Especially if we persist with AWB at RB, he doesn't push forward enough or offer a big enough threat when he does.

Although for me RW would be further down the order of priority, if I had to pick someone out as being the ideal candidate it would be Adama Traore. Something closer to a traditional wide player. Someone who can burst past the full back and either cross the ball or cut it back. Someone who'll stretch the pitch and make more space for Rashford, Martial and Bruno breaking from midfield.

6.) 14 Feb 2020 09:02:57
Shappy, if we go for Jack Grealish, then Bruno will most probably play further behind alongside a defensive midfielder.
Therefore, we definitely need a RW.

As you suggested, Adama Traore looks like an absolute power house this year. Wilfried Zaha is another option.

7.) 14 Feb 2020 10:40:01
Sancho may not come due to the reasons given by Ed002 which makes sense but potentially is better than Adama and Zaha, both like Sancho would not come cheap and on my views are prone to poor decisions and inconsistency. Sancho is a right footed RW, i think he would compliment Bissaka well.

8.) 14 Feb 2020 05:58:36
Ed, thanks for the breakdown above, great info as always.

You mentioned Mertens, is he now someone United are looking at? I think he'd be a sensible signing. Still a good player, 32 years old and can play across the front line. Much better than trying to sign someone like Callum Wilson.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, Mertens is of interest to Manchester United but he is being pushed toward another side.}

9.) 14 Feb 2020 08:42:15
Thanks as always for all the priceless inside information Ed002, really very much appreciated.

Could I possibly ask who our primary Defensive Midfield and Central Midfield targets might be please? Will understand if you reply RTP if targets are the same from previous detailed updated you’ve kindly posted.

Also, when you say MU are in turmoil and lack direction, does that allude to indecision about a manager going forward into next season and also a lack of a Sporting Director?

Thanks again for anything you have time to provide.

{Ed002's Note - (a) Boubakary Soumare is certainly of interest Marcos Llorente may still be of interest. You can scratch Eduardo Camavinga now. A change in coach would be required to attract Denis Zakaria and without Champions League you can scratch him. (b) Jack Grealish remains a very clear target for midfield.}

10.) 14 Feb 2020 09:57:00
TrueRedDevil, I feel that with Bruno now signed we should move towards a 433 type shape. Bruno needs a little more freedom to find the space and use his intelligence to break teams down.

I would go all out for a mobile holding midfielder who can shield the back four, then look at a creative attacking midfielder such as Grealish who can create chances by carrying the ball forward.

I'd then look to line up with the new DM and Bruno every week, and switch between McTominay and the new AM depending on whether we need to be more solid in midfield or have more creative ability on the pitch.

I agree we need a RW, but I also feel that we need coverage/ challenger for Martial and I'm not convinced the defence has the right balance yet.

Whereas, I do feel Greenwood and Dalot can play a role on the right hand side. While James has also done well there this season. I'd rather play Greenwood there for a year, let him develop more then sign a RW in the summer of 2021 when we could move Martial on and Greenwood could challenge the striker we sign this summer for the starting striker spot.

However, I appreciate other see things differently. I just want to see more homegrown lads make it at the club and in Greenwood we have one who could become a world class player. So for me making space for him in the side is vital for him to become a top player.

11.) 14 Feb 2020 10:01:38
Thanks Ed, always interesting to hear your thoughts.

12.) 14 Feb 2020 11:10:28
Thank you so much for your time Ed002, very much appreciated!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

13.) 14 Feb 2020 11:51:38
Shappy, your point above about Greenwood is a good one and not signing a RW this summer might be a good option as long as Greenwood gets plenty of game time.

That's why I think Mertens is a sensible signing, he wouldn't block Greenwood for years to come but is still able to contribute for the next couple of seasons. Free transfer probably means big wages but you'd hope Pogba, Sanchez, Smalling etc will all be off the wage books so should have room for a signing like that.



28 Jan 2020 16:09:40
Barca in for fernandes, Skysports running the story now. aww well at least its not Spurs or City lol.


{Ed002's Note - Spurs rejected the chance when offered in the past few days.}

1.) 28 Jan 2020 16:31:40
As Ed has said many times, we're amateurs. I don't think I'll be renewing for next season the way we are going. Not worth the money.

2.) 28 Jan 2020 17:33:16
Phew thank god for that. Could you imagine Jose's face at that unveiling 😂🤦‍♂️. Thanks for the info Ed002, no doubt you will be glad when this window shuts 😂.



28 Jan 2020 11:24:47
froma few journos on twitter that united are close to signing Sander Berge the CM from genk. don't know if there's any truth but we shall see. Rumours are he's at Carrington for a medical.


1.) 28 Jan 2020 11:50:03
And its a false alarm. Those muppets at the MEN really have outdone themselves this time. they tweeted about it, had it on the website, the story got picked up by all the tabloids only for it NOT to be him. Utterly embarrassing for so called professional journalists, and also for the club although this was not their doing. Apparently the player in for a 'medical' is a 15yr old Reserve Goalkeeper. You couldn't make it up lol.

2.) 28 Jan 2020 11:50:31
Looks like the club may have pulled off a surprise.
A giant midfielder at 6ft 5. Not sure if he is ready to step up.

3.) 28 Jan 2020 11:50:44
It's not true just been confirmed talks that Barcelona are getting fermandes for 50 million if true this board is a joke haggling over 8 million for a player that is going to be world class and would such a difference to us absolute shambles from top to bottom .

4.) 28 Jan 2020 11:53:15
Reading them as well, although one said the United he was in talks with was Sheffield.

5.) 28 Jan 2020 11:53:50
Apparently it’s a reserve keeper who looks like Sander Berge 🤣.

6.) 28 Jan 2020 11:58:16
the express are now saying it is a case of mistaken identity
its probably Justin Beiber getting a tour of the training facilities ahead of a new pop video called 'they fell for it again'

7.) 28 Jan 2020 12:38:56
He will sign after they play benfica.



26 Jan 2020 12:53:17
Good afternoon Ed002. Are the club considering loaning out garner this month? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - I suspect that they will Tim, there has been interest from a couple of Championship sides.}

1.) 26 Jan 2020 13:17:09
Surprised with all our injuries we haven't seen more of him. Loan will do him good though. Thanks ed002 enjoy the rest of your weekend 😊.

{Ed002's Note - And you Tim.}




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18 Mar 2020 11:12:34
Our Owners other Franchise spending big I see. signing the GOAT Tom Brady. Bet they see the dollar signs in that one lol.


1.) 18 Mar 2020 11:53:10
didnt realise how old he was.

in the decline?

dont watch much nfl so can't make a judgement but spending a lot on wages for him.

2.) 18 Mar 2020 12:07:48
Im an avid viewer of the NFL and would say he is in decline, any 43yr old would be at his position. It smacks to me of a PR and money making decision, the sheer level of media interest, sponsorships, merchandise sales etc will now go through the roof. If they win its a bonus but as has been proved with us, often decisions are made with other motives in mind.

3.) 18 Mar 2020 13:01:50
I would have to disagree with you Tim. From inception Brady was never blessed with any physical attributes to make you say he's an elite athlete. What he did have was impeccable accuracy passing the football. All Brady needs is good protection in the pocket and weapons down field and he will deliver. The latter which he didn't have this past season at the Patriots.

4.) 18 Mar 2020 13:30:17
We will agree to disagree 😂 time will tell on how good Brady is now at this stage. Hopefully come September we will be able to find out. I still think the decision to sign him is financially motivated as he will bring huge exposure to what has been a below average franchise for the past 10 years.

5.) 18 Mar 2020 19:36:13
Okay, so we have moved on from talking about soccer to the NFL, which has just a little bit more action in a game (11 minutes) than a weekend of postponed matches in the EPL.

Brady is a legend but my guess is he will not fair well in Tampa. I'll give it one season.

6.) 18 Mar 2020 22:54:15
Only because it related to our loving owners. At this rate though we will be taking about Fifa, football manager or tiddlywinks 😂.

7.) 19 Mar 2020 19:43:14
You know it's bad when people start discussing American Football :)

8.) 20 Mar 2020 05:55:18
Long time reader, first time poster. Just registered to express amusement at the NFL discussion here. I’m from Tampa and believe that once the economy recovers from this current pandemic craziness, signing old man Brady will be a marketing master stroke. He’s sort of like the Ronaldo of the NFL. Everyone appreciates his immense talent and, well, probably wouldn’t mind a jersey if they're honest. Good health to everyone around the world! Stay safe!



10 Mar 2020 09:17:40
'Jesse lingard looks set to be sold by Manchester United after losing the faith of the manager, that's despite the player believing he is one of the best no 10s in europe' Goal via Daily Mail. 😱🤦‍♂️😂.


1.) 10 Mar 2020 09:57:54
Well as one of the best No.10's in Europe he will have no problem finding a top club to sign him.

Personally I think Lingard is a great squad player. He works hard, makes space for others, and is an intelligent footballer.

That said, he just isn't productive enough to start every week for a side hoping to compete for top honours. His form over the past year has been average at best.

He is the kind of player you want against top sides where you will have to work hard and maybe aren't expected to be on top for the majority of the game. Similar to how we used to use Park Ji-Sung. Lingard actually has a good record of scoring in semi-finals and finals. And I might be right in saying has scored more goals against other top six sides than Lukaku managed.

But if he doesn't want to play that role and he wants to play every week then thanks for the hard work Jesse and I wish you the best.

2.) 10 Mar 2020 10:40:33
Have read that he’s got many things distracting him off the pitch, can’t be easy for him to cope with it all.

Think it’s time for him to ha e a fresh start somewhere else.

3.) 10 Mar 2020 11:38:02
Wallace, I read that too. I have every sympathy for him, it can't be easy. We all assume that earning huge amounts of money somehow makes your life all happy and rosy. If half of what I've read is true then it must have been a tough year.

I have no ill will towards him, and would wish him the best. If he ever came back to play against us I would give him a little cheer and show appreciation for everything he has given the club.

That said, if we bring in a couple more forward players in the summer then I don't see Lingard getting many games. At 27 and actually a very good player that would be a shame. So I can see why he would want leave and get back playing every week. As you say he might also need a fresh start given his personal circumstances.

I'm not sure I agree with his assessment that he is one of the best No.10's in Europe. I think both Bruno and Mata offer more creativity, while Gomes has more potential just in our squad. Let alone the rest of the EPL. English No.10's probably better than him include Maddison, Grealish, Mount, Alli, Barkley and Oxlaide-Chamberlain.

4.) 10 Mar 2020 11:42:27
Definitely. its best for everyone at this point if he moves on, don't want him to become the pantomime villain and face the type of abuse he got last week.

5.) 10 Mar 2020 11:50:35
had to laugh at one report. were it said he wants to make his brand bigger than beckhams and ronaldos. he must live in his own plastic bubble. i would of thought e should try playing football better first instead of his brand.

6.) 10 Mar 2020 14:57:59
The problem with Jesse's family problems is that one never knows when they will come to an end and when Jesse will start playing football up to his own standards. Many people experience difficult situations at home but are still required to perform at work. Maybe a new start somewhere else would help by providing a change in routine. But if he is taking care of so much at home in Manchester, where can he go? What are his options? Is he going to uproot his siblings? At least he has the financial wherewithal to do so.

7.) 10 Mar 2020 15:07:50
Couldn't agree more Dazw. He is useless. For a no10 he's had no goals or assists in over a year. So I'm afraid i don't agree with Shappy's view. Just because he run around a lot (achieving very little) does not make him a good player.
Look at the stats, they're as bad as they get.
Issues distracting him are a joke, he should deal with them instead of messing around with fashion brands.
Everyone has issues in life, but most people get on with them and work hard at the same time.
Solskjaer has been excellent at dealing with the slackers and trouble makers, and Lingard certainly fits the bill. Over to Raiola to get him a move to a big club, good luck with that.

8.) 10 Mar 2020 15:58:35
AAA, first off that's ridiculously harsh. I think most fans because we have all played football at some point seem to think being a professional footballer is easy.

The fact is performing any sport at an elite level consistently twice a week without ever having an off day or seeing your performance drop is near on impossible.

Are you suggesting that there is no variation in the quality of the work you do? This you deal with it mentality is why men have a ridiculously high suicide rate. This idea that you can never struggle and you just get on with it. His mum has serious issues and now a 27 year old lad has to bring up his two younger siblings. And you think that's a poor excuse for him not performing at an elite level.

Most of us would probably struggle to deal with the pressure and expectation that comes with being a professional footballer, let alone do that in the public eye under media scrutiny while our mum has mental health issues and we have to take over looking after our younger siblings.

20 years ago if a player had a bad game or two you'd just go "fair enough, hope he picks up next week". Fans nowadays are demanding a player is dropped or sold after a bad 45 minutes. Performances are overanalysed, and decent performances are picked apart.

Look at the several different ways NDombele's performance at the weekend has been picked apart. On one hand he had the best pass success rate, most passes of a spurs player, etc. Yet then his sprints and distance covered are looked at, for which he was bottom of the pile.

Lingard is a facilitator type player, he makes himself available, he makes unselfish runs to create space for others. His performance in theory makes others better.

I'm not a huge fan of the assist stat. In no other walk of life would your working performance be based on someone else successfully completing a task. I prefer the key pass stat if I'm honest.

Now I'm not saying Jesse is a great player. But he is more than decent. My issue is that in a game he could play 4 or 5 great balls to our strikers, laying it on a plate for them. But they are having an off day and they miss them all. Likewise Maguire boots a ball clear which Rashford picks up on the halfway line then runs up the field, beats 4 players and smashes an unbelievable strike into the top corner. Now Maguire gets an assist but Lingard gets slated.

Also the only players I judge based on goals scored are strikers, who are generally there to score goals.

You also don't seem to appreciate that there are different styles of strikers, wingers, full backs and No 10's. Along with every other position on the pitch.

TAA and AWB are two of the best young English RB's, yet both have vastly different approaches to their role and have hugely different skills as a RB.

9.) 10 Mar 2020 17:13:12
I don't post much but had to on this one shappy your calling people out for over analysing which is your trade mark, also do you no that lingard has managed to only create 18 big chances in 133 premier league games compare to say De Bruyne who played 146 games creating 87, Dele Alli 153 games 44 big chances i'm sure you can see were this is going. lingard has got to be the least productive no 10 in the league just because he has issues people are forgetting about he has never been good enough don't get me wrong if you want someone running around like a headless chicken he is one of the players you want, if you want a match winner/ changer or someone to contribute to the side he is not the player if you look at all his statistics he is pretty much well below average in every department over his 133 league games except for running around.

10.) 10 Mar 2020 17:44:03
i have a little sympophy over his family siuation. but he is in a privalaged position where he can afford help for his sibblings and family. i feel more sorry for kids who are missing school and childhood having to help mothers and farthers who are ill who do not have money or help. he dose not do his self any favours when you see he is more conserend about his brand. shappy for somebody who dose not like certain stats you sure use a lot in your posts.

11.) 10 Mar 2020 18:55:36
Dio, first off I'm honoured that you felt compelled to respond to my post.

So, I am fairly self aware, and I know I over-analyse most things. It's mostly part of my anxiety, that drives my compulsion to look at things over and over again in case I've missed something.

However, I wasn't calling anyone out for over analysis, just merely pointing out that in this modern world especially in football that players live under a ridiculous level of scrutiny. While sympathising that it can't be easy to live with that level of scrutiny.

I have never said Jesse is a world class player, so comparing him to one in KDB seems a mute point. I agree Jesse isn't a great creative No.10 and to most people the key thing for a No.10 is to create.

However, not all players need to subscribe to the usual ideology of their position in order to be an effective player.

Jesse Lingard does excel at some things, unfortunately what he does excel at is a little harder to quantify with traditional statistics. His "headless" chicken running might seem just like that. Because he often runs off the ball and then doesn't receive it. However, what he is doing is dragging one or two players away with him when he makes those runs, which creates space and gaps for others. Which can indirectly create chances, something much harder to measure.

He isn't a player you need in every game, but he is useful in certain games, and as he has been the player to step up in key games scoring winners in cup semi finals and finals and in games against top 4 rivals.

12.) 10 Mar 2020 21:39:36
It is not a bad game or two, it is many many games for more than a year.

Lingard is awful, end of.

13.) 11 Mar 2020 00:26:17
Shappy, lingard has been nothing short of disaster in his no10 roll. Bruno has created and scored more in 5 games than Lingard has done in 2 years. He is rubbish and that's a fact.
Will we see a queue for his services from the elite clubs? No chance. Running around like a headless chicken is not what football is about. Watch Xavi and Iniesta and you realize you don't have to be a marathon or sprinter to be the best at football. Lingard is an unintelligent player, he has the attribute of being able to run for 90mins, but he doesn't know what to do with it.
Finally, during 2 years when his performances have been truly abysmal, he seems to be concentrating more on his fashion label and social media than his football. Call me old fashioned, but I think he's got his priorities completely wrong. Football first, fame second, I think Mr Lingard might have these the wrong way. And sadly, I can't see that changing.

14.) 11 Mar 2020 02:01:58
I'm sorry Shappy, but if your best trait is getting out of the way of others- you are not top half epl level.

We were pretty good with players like Darren Gibbson and Tom Cleverly in the team. So, I agree that players can be role players. But it is time Jesse moved on, and I have no idea at all who might take him.

15.) 11 Mar 2020 08:05:32
Lingard flatters to deceive. You would have to question his work ethic and his attitude. We've needed him to step up and he has failed to do that.

Allow him to move onto pastures new. I find him rather immature and petulant. He needs to grow up. Pat him on the back and wish him well at another club.

{Ed047's Note - I always felt he was initially a bad influence on Rashford too

16.) 11 Mar 2020 09:46:03
So many people have got their knickers in a twist over Jesse and most of it seems to stem more from his activities off the pitch than those on it.

AAA, I have explained why he can be useful and how that can be of benefit to a team. You either seem unwilling to listen or unable to grasp the concept so I don't see much point in discussing it further.

Only that Sir Alex, Moyes, LvG, Jose and Southgate have all seen something in Lingard that was worth their time and effort to work with him and at times make him a key part of their side. So I guess all of them must be a terrible judge of a footballer.

I agree I think its probably best for all involved that Jesse moves on. However, when he does who will pick up the mantle of homegrown player the fans want to hate. Fletcher, Evans, Welbeck, Cleverley, even McTominay and Rashford have taken stick at times.

We have an odd fan base that seems to HAVE to have a homegrown player they need to blame all the defeats on. Now it's Jesse.

17.) 11 Mar 2020 11:09:10
Shappy I don't think people are failing to grasp "your opinion" about him its just the fact most all disagree with you and your failing to grasp what most people see, I thank you for pointing out his running pull players I do see that being an ex semi pro football player my self and coached a bit I understand the game quite well, but a top football player needs a lot more to him than being able to run for 90 minutes speciallly now that every team has worked him out let him make the runs don't need to track him as he will either get the ball and give it straight back to them or send it into the stands and I don't think people have issues with homegrown players you just fabricate some BS to argue with when people don't agree with you which is quite childish to be honest mate. I think he has never been good enough he just gets the chances because he is homegrown you mention SAF and Moyes I may be wrong but didn't lingard get in the team in 2016?

18.) 11 Mar 2020 11:56:49
Dio, both Sir ALex and Moyes saw a player in Lingard and chose to keep him and send him out on loan because they thought once he filled out he would be a good player. Lingard was in the same youth team as the Keane brothers, Larnell Cole, Ravel Morrison, Ryan Tunnicliffe and Paul Pogba. All 7 had been allowed to leave long, yet Sir Alex and Moyes felt it worth while keeping Jesse.

It was thought that Jesse's intelligence, movement, technical ability and work rate meant he would be a success once his body filled out and he could compete with fully grown men.

Quotes from Sir Alex in 2012,

“Jesse Lingard is going to be some player”,

"He is 19, came through our youth system and is built like Jean Tigana was for France. But he never got into the limelight there until he was about 24, and I think that will be the same with Lingard. ",

“He will become a player when he’s 22 or so. As an attacking midfielder he has got a really good talent. I think he will be a player we have high hopes for, definitely”.

Clearly a player Sir Alex rated all the way back in 2012.

Which a coaching background then surely you will be aware that football is just a game of creating space to play in. The side that does it best will normally win. No player no matter how great can do anything when space is denied them. The very best are able to make half a yard of space for themselves. Messi or Ronaldo for example can be marked by two or more players yet are still able to make enough space to find a clever pass or get a shot away. I suspect most of your coaching sessions would have been built around the idea of creating space, be that though creating overloads, stretching play, pushing sides back with pressing, or drawing them out. It's all about the manipulation of space on a football pitch.

Jesse Lingard is a player who when on form can create space for others. That said his form has been going downward over the last year, how much of that is down to his family situation and how much of it is down to his focus on commercial deals who knows. I think it has reached a point now where a move away would be best for all parties, it might reinvigorate Jesse's focus on football, while it will open up spaces for other players at United.

19.) 11 Mar 2020 12:06:01
Just to pile on; Lingard is pants. Sorry Shappy but this guy belongs nowhere near Manchester United.

20.) 11 Mar 2020 22:01:43
Shappy i don't care what fergy said he was wrong in fact he couldn't have been more wrong, there is no ability in lingard none he isn't a good footballer his touch is bad his vision bad his passing ability atrocious. You mention intelligent movement I fail to see that as his movement doesn't do what you claim. there's a diffrence between good movement and some one who just runs around with lingard I don't think he got a footballing brain at all an we are far far worse team with him in the starting 11.

21.) 11 Mar 2020 22:44:29
Dio, Lingard is nowhere near as bad as you think.



09 Mar 2020 14:10:54
All ligue 1 matches to be played behind closed doors until April (could be longer) . ed002 has stated that Serie A is in serious jeopardy of not finishing the season. Champions league games being played without fans also. its getting very serious now just in terms of sports, any chance the euros get cancelled? with it being held across so many countries, with so many migrating fans surely the risk of contamination is too big to allow. BIG BIG decisions need to be made.


{Ed002's Note - There is obviously a chance that the Euros and the Olympics could be postponed or cancelled - but it is too early to come to such a decision right now.}

1.) 09 Mar 2020 14:58:08
It's such an unprecedented situation for everyone, for all the planning and contingencies put in place I doubt anyone would have had a strategy for something like this.

2.) 09 Mar 2020 17:11:59
The thing that is most dangerous is the ignorance and fear mongering that is attached to the current situation.

Shock pieces that are turning up all over the web and social media. I saw one that stated that there has been huge pandemics in 1720, 1820, 1920 and now 2020. Yet a little digging finds that the outbreaks during those times spanned several years, the 1720 outbreak actually stated in 1718. So it's just typical altering of facts to suit an argument.

The current death rate of Covid-19 is around 3.5%. When you consider most of those deaths have been in China where they didn't have the knowledge or the medical expertise there immediately meaning many died who might have lived had they caught it 2 months later. So if we don't include China in the death statistics then the death rate drops down to 1.1%, which is only 0.3% worse than standard influenza. Which considering the circumstances and how contagious it is suggests it is no more deadly than flu.

The worse damaged caused by this will be economical. We have seen Flybe collapse (although it was in trouble anyway, cancellations due to Coronavirus pushed them over the edge) . Although most football clubs will be able to shoulder the loss of income from gate receipts, will all of the business's selling food, drink and souvenirs on match days survive? What about Futher down the football pyramid where club's do rely on gate receipts to keep a float? What about parts of Europe that rely on tourism to bring in the money? And the small businesses that rely on that?

What about the employees of the companies that go bust?

If every single person in the UK gets it, then around 6400 people will die at most.

This year in the UK
160k will die from Heart disease
140k will die from Cancer
62k will die from respiratory illnesses
2k will die in road traffic accidents
1500 will die as victims of crime

All of these things to an extent are preventable. Viruses are not.

Yes if you get Coronavirus it isn't going to be fun. But unless you are elderly or in poor health or suffer from respiratory problems the chances of it taking your life is minimal. However, the chances that it will financially cost you in some way are almost certain.

3.) 09 Mar 2020 17:41:14
Shappy, your Maths is wrong. we have 60M people so with a 1% mortality rate that would be 600,000, but we are seeing nearer to 3% so that would be 1.8M (but of course not everyone is going to get it) .

4.) 09 Mar 2020 18:38:36
People are massively over reacting. The people most at risk are people with already underlying health risks

If people stay cautious are are sensible this will all blow over.

Over stocking on hand gels and other stuff your reading about is ridiculous

Shappy I do love your posts.

5.) 09 Mar 2020 19:12:52
Shappy, I usually agree with most of what you have to say, but your rhetoric on this is bang wrong on this. It strikes me as something straight from the Piers Morgan locker.

Those things are sometimes preventable, but then so are most things. It all comes to a decision. It’d be like watching a burning building and saying ‘oh well, more people die of cancer. No need to rescue those inside. ’ In the same way that charities are important for helping those who need it most, we have a responsibility to protect the weak and vulnerable. To think like you stated is dangerous.

Also, don’t you think there are people working at trying to reduce those numbers you mentioned? Shouldn’t that be the case with all bad stuff?

6.) 09 Mar 2020 19:17:08
Tony, the 3% mortality rate is slightly misleading. It includes many deaths in China before the country managed to get medical treatment in place, plus they have a large population of older/ ill people who are most at risk. If you look at countries outside China the death rate is much closer to 1%.

{Ed001's Note - and that is usually the way it works with any outbreak, as it always takes time for people to actually figure it out. The issue is as much about the possibility of it mutating if allowed to run rampant.}

7.) 09 Mar 2020 19:45:38
Most football clubs cannot survive without gate receipts. Think of all those clubs in League One and Two and non-league. No crowds, no gate receipts, no chance.

8.) 09 Mar 2020 19:25:35
St Patricks parade cancelled in Dublin, first time ever I'd say.
Anywhere there's big crowds now, be looking in to cancelling.
Better being safe I suppose.

9.) 09 Mar 2020 23:45:31
So now, a high temperature and a bit of coughing, means self-isolating for a week. You just know the great British public are going to rip the arse right out of this :)

10.) 10 Mar 2020 03:59:53
I’m sorry Shappy, but that’s a lot of nonsense.

As for the death rate being skewed by China, you’re right. The recorded (considering they refused to acknowledge the existence of the virus for a month or so, this itself should be taken with a pinch of salt) death rate in China is actually lower than elsewhere and brings the worldwide average mortality rate down. In Italy, the mortality rate is 5.8% and, perhaps more worryingly, the percentage of resolved cases that resulted in death is around 40%. There is a very good reason why governments are reacting the way that they are.

Perhaps you should stick to poorly informed posts about football in the future. It’s exactly this kind of attitude that leads to issues like the Coronavirus being much more damaging than they need to be.

11.) 10 Mar 2020 06:02:41
China depopulation, at it for years.

12.) 10 Mar 2020 09:25:02
Worst case upto 80 percent of the country get it, upto half a million deaths .

You need to factor in many more issues if staff are infected who is staffing, hospitals, care homes, elderly care homes, people don't go into the care of others to catch a virus off them which has a chance of killing them . This would result in many more deaths that were preventable .

People are insane stock piling hand gels so others can't get any, you need the virus to stop spreading and the best way to do that is make everyone safe . Having a stock pile of hand gel won't help you if the virus catches hold and yr near a coughing or sneezing sufferer who got it in the first place because others had hauded the gels .

This of course is worst case stuff but now is the time when we have the best chance of stopping this . Inconvenience or lost revenue to football clubs or other such things for a short period I'd say is secondary to saving many lives .

This may pass and everything seem like an over reaction but people are just guessing and hoping that's the case .

13.) 10 Mar 2020 11:16:29
I suggest reading the recent post by an Italian doctor named Daniele Macchini before dismissing the virus as just another flu.

If cancelling all football games or the Euros is what it takes to curtail the virus’ spread then so be it. I’d miss watching football, but nowhere near as much as I’d miss a relative or loved one if, god forbid, they caught the virus and were unable to recover.

14.) 10 Mar 2020 11:25:11
Just a side note at 1% mortality rate, 640,000 would potentially die if the entire populous is infected not 64,000 as stated above.

15.) 10 Mar 2020 12:23:40
It's the older people and people with breathing conditions that will get it the worse, so I'm sure we all have older family members, so we all need to be a bit careful.



09 Mar 2020 09:13:09
Just saw an article stating That Man Utd are confident that Chong will sign a new deal to stay at the club. Ed002 is there any truth to this?


{Ed002's Note - I have no way of guaging the level of confidence that a club has.}

1.) 09 Mar 2020 10:16:44
sorry ed002, I'll word my question another way, has chong had offers from other clubs that he would accept or is it more likely that he will stay?

{Ed002's Note - Chong has had discussions with four sides and another side, who cannot talk directly with him has had an approach turned away. Manchester United have always said they want to keep him but he wants game time - if they make promises of that then they may persuade him to stay. The player has made it clear he wants a move to Inter who have proposed an initial loan which will see him get first team football in Serie A next season (if there is first team football in Serie A next season).}

2.) 09 Mar 2020 11:52:34
thanks ed002, as always.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Tim.}

3.) 09 Mar 2020 11:57:16

In regards as to whether there will be first team football in Serie A, Is that due to the coronavirus?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, they are close to stopping all games now and cancelling the season.}

4.) 09 Mar 2020 12:53:22
Thanks ED002.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

5.) 09 Mar 2020 13:14:36
What would happen if they cancel the season Ed? Null and void?

{Ed002's Note - It looks like the table would stay as it is but no winner will be announced.}

6.) 09 Mar 2020 14:16:39
ed02 will the italian teams still play the european competitions. champs league and europa thanks.

{Ed002's Note - At this time, yes.}

7.) 09 Mar 2020 18:35:24
Manchester United is delighted to announce that Tahith Chong has signed a new contract, which will keep him at the club until June 2022, with the option to extend for a further year.

8.) 09 Mar 2020 18:45:39
To the OP, Chong has signed.

9.) 09 Mar 2020 19:14:41
New deal announced for Chong.

10.) 09 Mar 2020 19:37:00
I just don't get it with Chong. All I see is a lightweight player with little bravery, pace or skill. He's 20 years old already as well.

I don't even see any potential to improve. Does anyone see anything in him which makes you think he's good enough to be a first team player at man utd?

11.) 09 Mar 2020 20:39:41
MancMan I have to say I have the same view of Chong.

{Ed001's Note - a lot of it is because he brings in interest from Asia, which was one of the reasons behind Inter's interest.}

12.) 09 Mar 2020 22:50:59
Ah now I get it. Thanks Ed001. Man utd are now the club where twitter hits count more than goals.

{Ed001's Note - no, but they want to give more of a chance to a lad who could bring in huge sponsorship deals if he makes it.}

13.) 10 Mar 2020 10:57:47
Maybe, but he's not going to make it because he is pants so he is a waste of a squad place and a wage.



08 Mar 2020 14:24:05
Everton having a shocker. CBs both look very leaden footed and slow today. Could be a big day in the battle for 4th with Chelsea winning we can't afford to do anything less.


1.) 08 Mar 2020 15:12:24
Why couldn't this everton have turned up against us? What a poor performance from them.

This Chelsea look like the third best team in the league on this form.

2.) 08 Mar 2020 15:19:02
Always the way, we always seem to get a teams best performance 😂 they have been awful at the back today, they look like they are treading water.

{Ed047's Note - maybe you were just easy to play against

3.) 08 Mar 2020 15:22:37
Very good performance from Chelsea so far. I'm surprised by the lack of reaction from Ancelotti.

Everton's 442 is being dominated in the middle and has been from the start. With Chelsea playing 433 having the extra man in the middle Everton are chasing shadows. While the whole Everton team look very leggy.

The experience of the front three for Chelsea are schooling the Everton back four. Sidibe looks lost, Digne doesn't look fully fit. Keane is all at sea. While Holgates inexperience is showing.

Shame this Everton didn't show up last week. But kudos to Chelsea with 9 players out injured and a young lad in midfield they are playing very well.

They have the points over us, so we are relying on the teams above us to drop points. This is an excellent display from Chelsea but they will still drop more points this season. We just need to keep going, focus on ourselves and see what we can do.

4.) 08 Mar 2020 15:27:19
Bit of both ed047.
We played well for 30 mins against Everton and them played for a draw. But Everton were always in the game and fight hard. This one was over after 30 mins and they showed no fight as they had nothing to fight for.

{Ed047's Note - yes mate you are still very up and down, it’s like when Arsenal fans kidded themselves a 22 game unbeaten run was the start of something.

Your current run is the same, you’ve got a shed load of work to do in the summer and Bruno a long with a few others is a good start.

5.) 08 Mar 2020 15:27:58
Maybe ed047 maybe. 😂.

{Ed047's Note - 😉🤣

6.) 08 Mar 2020 15:41:44
Everton are a different animal at Goodison.

{Ed047's Note - not the pussy cats they are today

7.) 08 Mar 2020 15:56:12
I think the game against Everton last week was affected by us giving away a silly early goal. Personally I think had we not given away that goal then we would have won 2-0.

8.) 08 Mar 2020 15:57:39
I agree with you ed. We are on the knife edge of a really decent season with good draws in both cups and still in hunt for 4th.

Yet we are also on the knife edge of a hideous season by missing iut on top 4 and not winning anything.

Our squad should be diing better and have underperformed for the most part this season.

Form has picked up in the main since bruno signed but i still have no confidence in the manager and i hope we can sustain this form and win the EL and snatch 4th.

Im not sure how it will go. I think there is enough talent there to win the EL let's hope they can turn it on when it counts and that the recent upturn in form, general stats, and results continues without too many blips.

{Ed047's Note - I think it’s going to be a stretch for you Ken, some good teams still in the Europa League and very little room for mistakes in the Premier.

Bruno is 100% your Best Buy since Fergie left and it’s what you can add around him that’s going to be the big one next season.

It’s a big 10 games coming up.

9.) 08 Mar 2020 16:13:50
This could be a pivotal few months. If we qualify for the UCL next season then I think there is a very good chance that we will sign Sancho in the summer. The club wants him, very few sides will pay what Dortmund are asking for, and Sancho would be willing to move if we make the UCL (or so I believe) .

If we can get top 4, or 5th and City's ban gets upheld, or win the Europa league then this might be looked back on as the start of the club climbing back to the top. If we fail to get UCL then the financial hit, plus the calibre of players we can bring in might drop.

Quite simply the teams with the best players are the one who challenge and win things. If we can't bring them in, then we will struggle.




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13 Mar 2020 11:03:53
unless the games are played at some point then there is no fair way to end the season. however this is an unprecedented situation and as such we just have to accept what happens. If united don't make champions league then we will have to deal with it, the implications on promotion/ relegation are much more pertinent especially with the monetary gains/ losses involved.




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13 Mar 2020 09:26:01
yes there is more to life than football and sport in general. what really angers me is the attitude of some that this disease only affects the elderly and therefore just quarantine them and let the rest of us get on with it. As someone in their 30's I might be less likely to have serious symptoms, b ut i don't want it passed on through me to someone who it will have serious affects on. The health and well being of ALL members of the public must be the top priority not entertainment and profits.




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11 Mar 2020 14:52:08
we have spent more time over the last 2 years, talking about non footballing issues rather than pogba actually playing on the pitch. i'm tired of it, so are most people so can we just sell him and move on please.




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10 Mar 2020 08:57:11
think your right shappy, that seems like the best option for everyone.




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09 Mar 2020 19:46:48
Think he's a real talent, good he has signed but maybe a loan next year would be good for him. A season at another prem team or even the championship would be great. If united get sancho etc can't see him playing a lot of games.





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04 Apr 2020 21:56:09
Congratulations, glad mum and baby are doing well. Nothing puts smiles on faces and brings positivity more than a new baby in the family 😊👍.




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18 Mar 2020 22:54:15
Only because it related to our loving owners. At this rate though we will be taking about Fifa, football manager or tiddlywinks 😂.




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18 Mar 2020 13:30:17
We will agree to disagree 😂 time will tell on how good Brady is now at this stage. Hopefully come September we will be able to find out. I still think the decision to sign him is financially motivated as he will bring huge exposure to what has been a below average franchise for the past 10 years.




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18 Mar 2020 12:07:48
Im an avid viewer of the NFL and would say he is in decline, any 43yr old would be at his position. It smacks to me of a PR and money making decision, the sheer level of media interest, sponsorships, merchandise sales etc will now go through the roof. If they win its a bonus but as has been proved with us, often decisions are made with other motives in mind.




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14 Mar 2020 10:25:22
Maybe they should come to the reality that maybe the universe doesn't want Liverpool to win the league 😂. Last year they had the most points for a team to finish 2nd and this year the coronavirus looks set to end the season early 🤔😉😂.