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27 Aug 2023 21:27:42
End of window gets weirder by the day.
Apparently we want Marcos Alonso on loan till January. Some allegations around him as well.
Great going forward, defensively suspect, didn't he just recently want to move back to spain and that was the reason for leaving chelsea? maybe Barcelona are desperate.
Cucurella don't see that happening. Chilwell is injury prone and they let Hall go. Why make the squad even weaker?
Regulion. I think he is most gettable. Out of favour at tottenham and not many takers.
The even more odd rumours are mctominay and gravenberch loan swap. Why would you do a loan swap and not just a direct swap?
Would be a good move as long as we get amrabat in.
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29 Sep 2024 21:25:32
Not a fan of posting tweets here but this is a damning stat:
Gary Neville at Valencia
• 28 games
• 11 losses
• 39 goals
• 38 goals conceded
Ten Hag
• last 28 games
• 13 losses
• 35 goals
• 45 goals conceded
'Worst manager ever' vs Mr 'Eras come to an end'
How is ETH in a job is beyond me?
Get him out tomorrow!
1.) 29 Sep 2024 21:51:03
Scarey that!
2.) 29 Sep 2024 22:10:28
A couple of others I've read.
We have lost 8 of our last 20 home games.
Won 1 of our last 9 games in Europe.
3.) 29 Sep 2024 22:22:36
Don’t stress. You can see the marked improvements and the signs of cohesive, systematic football by a gelling team.
Looking forward to the ideologues.
4.) 29 Sep 2024 23:14:36
I think he's gone, be amazed he's utd manager by tomorrow afternoon. its a horror show and surely Radcliffe and Co can see it. If this carries with ten hag utd will be in a relegated fight. its that bad now. Has to be removed simple as, there's no positives anywhere.
22 Aug 2024 22:58:41
Anyone else concerned with the lack of fullbacks in the squad?
Apart from fullbacks, I would say every other position is covered within the team.
We have atleast 2 players for every other position. And others who can do a job.
But going into a season with 2 fit fullbacks in Dalot and Mazraoui feels extremely risky to me.
Malacia will not be the same player,
Shaw is injured half the season,
Amass has been deemed not ready for first team.
Martinez was out last year, and playing him out of his natural position doesn't seem like a good plan.
Lindelof at LB was poor.
If we actually cannot afford a fullback, maybe look to add some depth.
Last year we struggled at Lb once reguilon was out with the lack of options.
Surely we can get one of the free agents, or an option like reguilon as a body. Ideally sign a top target, but if that cannot happen atleast have an option for europa league and cup games, and rotation to give rest to current fullbacks.
Hermoso, Marcos Alonso, Van Aanholt, Alex Sandro, Kurzawa, Serge Aurier, Cedris Soares are some free agents.
We do need a fullback surely.
1.) 23 Aug 2024 06:34:07
I’m not concerned by the number of, but by their fitness.
On paper Mazraoui / Dalot and Shaw / Malacia does not look like an area that needs much attention but 3 of the 4 have very poor injury records.
We can’t assume Malacia won’t be the same player. He’s had a torrid time but hopefully he makes a good recovery. It’s a case of getting them all fit, and then it’s no longer a problem position.
2.) 23 Aug 2024 07:34:12
Chilwell loan may be a decent option, but the list you provided above back pass is utter dross, none of whom should ever wear the Man Utd shirt.
3.) 23 Aug 2024 08:19:27
It's not ideal I think we might see something happen.
Question marks over 3 of them fitness wise and over 3 of them quality wise with Mazraoui being the only one good enough.
Dalot will be off next year I'd imagine and we will be shopping again next year 4 a couple of starting lb a cover rb and hopefully amass will go cover lb.
We are weak in those positions but will have to struggle though this year.
4.) 23 Aug 2024 09:24:17
Chilwell is injury prone.
I just mentioned some free agents. Not saying those are the right moves.
We will struggle all year with only 2 capable fullbacks.
We've been lucky with dalot's fitness. What if he is out for a month? Lindelof RB is not good.
I do personally like Marcos Alonso, very good going forward, suspect defensively. But an option and not a bad one.
5.) 23 Aug 2024 09:31:31
If the club is even considering Chilwell then they need to give their heads a wobble. A very good player, but his injury record is awful. No point adding one more player to the physio room.
6.) 23 Aug 2024 09:33:16
It’s got a deadline day loan for Chilwell written all over it.
7.) 23 Aug 2024 09:10:01
ED001,
What are your thoughts on Hermoso as a potential LB option?
{Ed001's Note - I am not sure he is all that good at left-back. He looked better in the centre from what I saw. Maybe if you play him as a more defensive type full-back he would be good, rather than bombing on. But not as an inverted type that sits in front, instead more like a third centre-back when you have the ball. I didn't see a lot of him, so there is always the chance he was carrying an injury, but he didn't look mobile enough to get up and down the flank in the Prem. He just played like a centre-back who was out there as emergency cover and gave it a good go. He never let them down or anything, but I would think he would get exposed if he had to do it all the time.}
8.) 23 Aug 2024 10:33:00
Cheers ED001,
Who would be your options for Utd at LB?
{Ed001's Note - there are so few good ones about, though Villa got a steal with Maatsen, no idea why you weren't in for him. I would suggest Ait-Nouri, but they let the back-up (Bueno) go out on loan, so are unlikely to sell him for anything other than an obscene fee. There really isn't a lot of good ones out there, the likes of Antonee Robinson are very poor. Chilwell has a poor lifestyle and that causes constant injuries. I have not seen Kadioglu play, but he is highly rated. Tyrick Mitchell always impresses for Palace, and they play a much more possession-based system now, so it is not like Wan-Bissaka who needed to learn a new way of playing. Other possibilities would be Gutierrez, but he is from a Citeh feeder club, so they would probably not sell for a reasonable price to you, Cambiaso, but Inter wouldn't want to lose him. Rico Henry I would say would be the best option if not for injuries again. Maybe Kerkez could be taught to defend?}
9.) 23 Aug 2024 14:55:02
LB could become a live position but expect it to be late in the window if we do. I am not averse if we either get short term cover or find the money for a number 1 LB. they will likely see how dalot/ masouari cover.
If they expect Shaw to be back in September then assuming he stays relatively fit that is 50% of the games covered and maybe prioritising premier league. Who knows with malacia but assume he becomes ready from December we have enough cover. I also think the plan is for Amass to see some minutes but likely second half of season.
10.) 23 Aug 2024 15:56:56
I wouldn't be surprised if we looked at cucarella again.
11.) 23 Aug 2024 12:36:19
Cheers ED001,
The club need to sign a LB as Shaw and Malacia are very injury prone. There shouldn't be a reliance on playing Dalot or Mazraoui at LB.
Amass looks good but perhaps it is too early for him. However playing alongside Martinez might just be the best thing for his development.
{Ed001's Note - I think your best bet is the youth system as, like I said, the options are poor really.}
12.) 23 Aug 2024 13:48:09
ED001
Gutierrez is not the greatest defender either as I watched him last year a few times, full game and not You tube stuff which is not relevant and deceiving once we were linked to him.
Watched ait Noori last weekend vs arsenal and he had a poor game and Saka and co had him caught out of position a lot.
Kodiuglu was a revelation at the euros.
Most of the ones who are good going forward seem to have weaknesses defending and some of their positional play. Unfortunately they don't make them like ashley cole anymore.
{Ed001's Note - I don't think any of them are particularly outstanding either, it is a best of a bad bunch that you are looking at really. Personally I would be looking to the youth system and bringing through someone. There really isn't the quality out there, so there is little risk in bringing through someone. I doubt the likes of Amass could be any worse!}
13.) 23 Aug 2024 17:41:02
Deano, we should be nowhere near Cucurella. Headless chicken personified.
14.) 23 Aug 2024 18:02:08
Cheeky kieran tierney loan then.
Will give us good 15-20 games a year.
{Ed001's Note - did you mean minutes rather than games?}
15.) 23 Aug 2024 19:58:13
Thanks ED001,
Is hope Amass would get some EL and LC games.
{Ed001's Note - I hope so. Always good to see kids come through from the youth team and break into the first team at any club. Well, maybe not Chelsea, as that just means they will sell them soon!}
16.) 24 Aug 2024 08:39:23
ED001,
Do you rate Alphonso Davies?
He is more than likely to play for RM next season.
{Ed001's Note - blisteringly quick, excellent going forward but weak defensively. There are not many outstanding left-backs right now.}
17.) 24 Aug 2024 20:22:04
Cheers ED001.
{Ed001's Note - very welcome MH.}
18.) 25 Aug 2024 00:58:06
A lot of people want that LB right now and don't want to wait out and see the kid grow into the role We sign anyone it limits his chances and will hold him back.
I personally am more than happy to struggle for a while if we let the kid come though. I will happily take the growing pains and inevitable struggles to see him make it. Young players need to play and this lad is right on the cusp, Amass is going to get his chance at some point this year, we just have to wait.
We have enough problems in the squad that need fixing, patience here will save a lot of money.
The next one for me will be Lacey at RF, that's another kid who will make it.
09 May 2024 00:11:26
Todays game vs Real Madrid shows why we should not get Tuchel.
He subbed off Kane, switched to a back 5, and subbed off Sane.
Poor negative management, he should have brought on Mathys Tel or tried to counter but instead he just brought off his better players and surrendered the match.
1.) 09 May 2024 06:08:32
Alternative argument, Neuer shouldn't have f@#k*d up, and the linesman admitted he made the wrong decision after the game.
None of that was Tuchels fault. It's easy to blame a manager. Perhaps he should have kept Kane on.
2.) 09 May 2024 06:26:13
I am not here to defend Tuchel but if the keeper hadn’t dropped an absolute clanger it may well have been successful. Going to Madrid and doing what Bayern did, probably deserved to win given their game strategy, it was the sign of an elite coach.
I would take Tuchel over what we have and certainly over Southgate.
3.) 09 May 2024 06:40:47
I’d be more worried that he’s a manager who like Conte / Mourinho et al seems to fall out with everyone by season three, and it feels unlikely we’ll be challenging in that time and back to square one again. Or maybe that’s just being defeatist? Just feels like we need someone with vision to begin from the bottom up.
4.) 09 May 2024 07:05:45
Backpass you’re right.
Remember just a few weeks ago when ETH was getting hammered for subbing Garnacho, by the same people defending Tuchel above?
At the time he brought Kane off it’s the first thing that came to mind; the meltdown on here has Tuchel made the same subs for us.
5.) 09 May 2024 07:07:06
Not being defeatist spenno. Or if you are then that makes two of us because I agree with you.
Anyway, it's irrelevant because ETH is going nowhere. SJR likes bald men. Hence SDB is on board. ken just see it.
6.) 09 May 2024 08:43:37
Then by all accounts ten hag shouldn’t be the manager based on the group stages lol.
7.) 09 May 2024 08:59:21
Losing a champions league semi final by the odd goal against Madrid at the bernabeu…. that’s something we could only dream about currently so if that’s what tuchel brings then sign me up. His management and tactics got them there in the first place remember!
8.) 09 May 2024 10:02:31
Tim, most of us all know that's nonsense though because if that happens to us in the manner it did last night, individuals would be on here hammering Tuchel for taking off a player and his tactics. Unfortunately that's what some of this fanbase have become.
9.) 09 May 2024 10:15:30
To be fair Kane's stats at the point of being substituted were the poorest in the Bayern line-up - he got an assist but four passes and definitely fatigued. But yeah, in hindsight definitely the guy you want on the pitch when you're chasing which is the risk you take.
10.) 09 May 2024 10:40:47
I'm not sure about that ports.
Klopp gets lot of praise on here just for competing he wins very little.
I would be delighted to see us competing at the top table. Wins at that level or losses can happen in a blink of an eye.
11.) 09 May 2024 10:46:15
Backpass / rohan.
Can you make me the manager that never made a mistake? That will go alongside any of fizzy pops posts as one of the daftest.
To get to be winning a semi final with 1 min to go means he did a lot more right than wrong over the course of the comp.
Pep lost plenty of semi finals and finals so did fergie klopp etc.
12.) 09 May 2024 11:37:57
So taking Kane off with 5 mins to go and going defensive is poor negative management but Ten Hag doing it after 65 mins is fine and taking his best players off at that.
13.) 09 May 2024 12:05:35
You are absolutely right Mad Hatter, it is easy to blame the manager ?.
14.) 09 May 2024 13:55:12
To be fair he can't do anything about a mistake by Neuer. I do think the subs and change of shape actually helped Madrid and there was more space for some reason. I was thinking they are in trouble if they concede and how is he going to hold out for 30 minutes of extra time as he took all the threat upfront off.
Saying that I thought sane was really poor all game and not sure if he had anyone on the bench to replace him with. Personally would have left Kane on as they have nothing left to play for and this was it.
I have no issues with them sitting back and trying to counter.
15.) 09 May 2024 14:00:41
On another note the premier of 99 by prime is this weekend in Manchester i believe and everyone is going to be there.
16.) 10 May 2024 13:36:21
Ahmad
I thought Kane had looked sluggish towards the end of the game if honest.
{Ed077's Note - taking off attacking players and going all defensive with just 1 goal lead isn't the best idea, regardless of how you spin it. If it was 3-0 with 10 to go, fine but it was too small a margin to do that, IMO. Another thing people haven't really talked about is, even if the De Lift goal stood, they would have had to play the ET with less attacking threat (at least on paper) and if it went to a penalty shootout, Who are the players to take the pens?
Would you rather Kane take them or Kim?
If Ten Hag taking Garnacho off can have a negative mental effect on our players then why can't the same thing happen when Tuchel took off Kane, Sane and Musiala to go more defensive? Madrid already seem to have the psychological edge over everyone else so it can't have had a positive impact ey
02 May 2024 14:17:27
From the 30 players we have on loan, apart from maybe 5 players, I don't know if anyone deserves to be a United player.
You cannot just ship out 20 players in one window, but I hope we ship out atleast 10.
I hope we don't get europa league football, it just means more injuries and a stretched squad.
Id rather we go with a thinner squad but with players suited to the football we want to play supplemented by young players than see
McTominay, Maguire and Rashford do what they all their careers.
Hoping for some good next steps next year.
1.) 03 May 2024 07:55:10
Glad ten Hag put the media’s sensationalist ‘everyone for sale’ headlines down as ‘a load of crap’. But yeah I agree, I think we could see up to 10 leave and maybe 4-5 in.
2.) 03 May 2024 12:29:24
its the transfer season approaching. They will write lots of silly stuff and they don't care. Never going to happen. We will do well if we can shift the guys on loan for decent amounts and maybe two to three from the current squad, who are still under contract and bring in 5 players. That would be a great window imo.
18 Feb 2024 22:12:05
I was young when this used to happen, but I remember we used to send young players on loan to a belgian club Royal Antwerp for development.
What ever happened to that?
1.) 18 Feb 2024 22:47:52
Yeah I remember that too backpass. I think we sent Ronnie Wallwork there. Had high hopes for him but didn’t he attack a ref or something? Might have something to do with it ?.
2.) 18 Feb 2024 23:05:05
Did Evans do a stint there?
{Ed002's Note - More than 25 players went there.}
3.) 19 Feb 2024 19:26:24
A lad I played with in a team from under 10’s up was sent to Antwerp by United. Not sure why it stopped happening though.
25 Jul 2024 09:15:27
He would do very well at Fulham, would get 10 goals a season.
07 Jul 2024 10:37:55
Girona and Donny might actually work out!
24 Jan 2024 20:44:28
If Benzema signs and that means we can get top 4, it is a great signing.
But do you really think ETH is a manager that can handle big players?
08 Jan 2024 18:28:19
Especially don't need them since the amount of games will be reduced now.
26 Oct 2023 18:10:29
Those pre season games, I felt Heaton to be more comfortable on the ball than de gea ever was.
Heaton is also a very decent shot stopper.
Have no idea about bayindir but hoping he gets a start vs newcastle in the league cup game.
04 Oct 2024 15:12:05
Could he not have swapped them?
Cant mazraoui not play Lb when dalot is not playing well.
Eth needs to leave.
27 Sep 2024 20:36:23
I fully agree red7, and with players like rooney I could understand what he achieved and his quality when he was not getting dropped.
I do not understand how people like bruno and rash who have won nothing major get the same status.
27 Sep 2024 10:41:57
Redseven, eth is definitely not inspiring, acting similarly to Ole has previously.
As long as bruno, rash and maguire stay at the club, some or the other excuse will come up to rely on them.
Only Ralf consistently benched Rashford, and both Ole and ETH kept showing good faith in these 3.
26 Sep 2024 20:22:55
ETH may not be the perfect coach,
But we will always be a poor team as long as bruno, rashford and maguire make the team.
Maguire is at best a west ham level CB who can sit deep and play long balls.
Rashford needs 5 variables to work out to get the best out of him. A overlapping fullback, long balls, fans loving him, manager loving him, and long shots going in.
Bruno, apart from his poor demeanour as a captain, complaining all the time, he cannot run with the ball, his shooting is not as good as it used to be, his flicks and tricks almost never work out. He keeps losing the ball and we get countered from it.
All 3 of them do not take care of the ball, and there is a reason we are a cup team, and these are central to it.
All of them have been over promoted and over inflated with the back of mickey mouse cup wins and 6th place finishes and the day we beat PSG.
Our defense has actually improved a lot. Mazraoui is a class player and De Ligt is good too.
I think Eriksen, Mainoo and Ugarte is our best midfield going forward and we should stick to it, with mount covering and bruno and casemiro being the backups. I feel collyer plays better than these 2 because he does simple things.
Our football is too reliant on hollywood passes and goals, whereas the likes of zirkzee and amad play simple football, can you remember one zirkzee or amad pass that was hollywood?
We had a cull this year, and the moment we let rash, bruno, maguire go, no matter who the coach is, we will see massive improvements.
20 Sep 2024 23:33:36
3 fit fullbacks is a sight for sore eyes.