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09 May 2019 17:55:31
This Director of Football rumour mill is just another example of the absolute shambles we have going on internally at the club.
We were linked with some experienced, proven DoF such as the fella's from Roma and Juve, Van Der Saar, Luis Campos who done exciting things at Monaco, even an internal appointment like Marcel Bout but now I have read Rio's name and Fletcher's name. The mind boggles.

Personally I am still happy with Solskjaer, it is so easy to say we should have gone for Poch now they are in the final however, recent form in the Premier League seems to be forgotten. I like the way Ole has been conducting himself, I like the what he has been saying. People seem to forget that this is still not his team, he was brought in to steady the ship and he overachieved in this and suddenly people get carried away and think we are fixed. We are not, there are to many ego's in the team and to many incompetent individuals internally driving the club.

If we get the wrong appointment of a DoF then no manager, Pep, Poch, even the great SAF will have problems to turn this ship around. The otherside of it is if we get the right person for DoF, will they be given the autonomy for the rebuilding of the football club. My fear is not but either way we need a strong minded, proven DoF, otherwise it doesn't matter who is the gaffer, we will just fall further and further behind the 5 teams above us and more worryingly 3 or 4 clubs below us.

Ports

1.) 09 May 2019 18:15:40
Here here.


2.) 09 May 2019 18:20:23
Unfortunately Ports we have been liked with many highly qualified people as potential DoF, Luis Campos, Fabio Paratici, Monchi, Andrea Berta, Ralf Rangnick, Michael Zorc and Edwin van der Sar. As well as potential options who have never performed the role but could maybe step up such as Paul Mitchell or our own Marcel Bout.

Now we are being linked with Rio Ferdinand, Darren Fletcher, Paul Scholes and Patrice Evra. All good players for us, but none have held a similar role.

For me this indicates that this DoF or Technical director role won't change much if anything about how the club is being run. We have approached the best and none want it. What does that tell you? Now we are looking at ex-players with no experience. This to me suggests that what we are looking for isn't someone to come in and change things and shake things up, but someone to come in and act as a buffer between the people currently running things and the fans. Someone else to blame when it all goes wrong. Someone to do the boring day to day jobs maybe that the current people running things maybe see as beneath them or a hassle. While the big key important decisions will still be made by the same people who have been ballsing them up for the last 6 years.

{Ed025's Note - i think your right there shappy..


3.) 09 May 2019 20:39:06
Good post Shappy and that's why the club ain't going anywhere.


4.) 10 May 2019 02:12:41
Guys I understand the thoughts but I don’t recall it being said that Fletcher would be the DoF. I think they were just talking ‘a role’ within the club. Given the recent diluting of United values and ethos I think having ex players around the club (who experienced the winning culture) is a good move. I like that management seems to have recognised this and is prepared to bring some back in. It has to be the right role though. A DoF should be knowledgeable about the job.


5.) 10 May 2019 10:28:34
Spot on by the way ports.


6.) 10 May 2019 16:22:38
Is it possible that the person that the club want as DOF is currently under contract elsewhere so they are keeping quiet on any rumours until the summer.
There appears to be so many different links for the past 6 months from creditable options through to completely left field.
I might and and probably am wrong but I would like it if the club are trying to stop these leaks out of the club and the work has gone on for the right person to come in.


7.) 11 May 2019 13:27:29
If we're going to have an ex-player as Dof, Roy Keane gets my vote.


 

 

07 Feb 2019 21:17:09
Anyone know much about Upamecano and whether there’s any substance to the rumours we’re interested in him?

Ports

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of specific interest from MU but many sides have looked but the asking price has put sides off.}


1.) 09 Feb 2019 00:40:21
Apparently we had an agreement to sign him but tried to change something regarding the deal last minute and it fell through. Sound like typical journalist bull to me though.


 

 

06 Jun 2018 16:25:00
Someone mentioned a Kohler sleeve deal a while ago and apparently the guy who brokered it let slip United have activated Griezmann’s release clause?! This was a while ago and just read United are about to announce Kohler as a sleeve sponsor for £10M a year! 😳.

Ports

1.) 06 Jun 2018 18:25:42
Was just about to post this. Has some legs as it was posted 7 days ago.


2.) 06 Jun 2018 18:17:05
Yeah I posted about it last week. It's a rumour that certainly has some legs. Maybe as an early Christmas present ed002 can put us out of our misery and let us know if we're still interested?

{Ed002's Note - The "release clause" for Griezmann is not anything to do with Manchester United.}


3.) 06 Jun 2018 18:49:08
Thanks ed. Have United been in contact with Atletico over a deal for the player?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained their interest in the apst. Right now the player is at the World Cup and no doubt pondering the Barcelona situation. AM want him to stay.}


4.) 06 Jun 2018 19:01:07
Thanks ed! If you have the time in the future to explain "release clauses" it would be amazing. I think the general consensus of them is X player has a £50 million clause. We bid and that's that. I think this assumption stems from Football Manager. Would love more details about it when you have the time. Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out clause" is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about five years ago which is why they have an exception. All players in Spain and Portugal have a release clause that allows the player to buy himself out of his contract without tax implications. This was to address a ruling from around 30 years ago allowing players a way out of their contracts. It works differently in Iberia to elsewhere as the tax implications do not make such clauses viable. All players in Iberia must have a figure set and agreed with the club. So "buy out" clauses are very rare. Related to this is the Webster Ruling but I don't intend to go in to that now.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties (clubs) are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that football Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club in the same country does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country, the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid and may demand a higher figure.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another and about the legal proximity of the buying side.}


5.) 06 Jun 2018 19:13:05
On another matter, I see Diogo is all over the Man Utd homepage, But no sign of Fred as yet . I thought it was all done and dusted. And who next? . I wonder.


6.) 06 Jun 2018 19:31:55
Rock - i asked the same question. It looks like we have agreed the deal with his club but no official signing.


7.) 06 Jun 2018 20:52:40
Fred passed his medical on Monday so unsure why there hasn't been an official announcement. Only thing on the club website confirms the agreement between clubs.

Funny article I read that Arsenal are looking to make a move for Fellaini on a free transfer.


8.) 06 Jun 2018 21:18:23
Its possible due to the player concentrating on Brazil where dalot isn't with Portugal!


9.) 06 Jun 2018 19:41:41
Ed002, this is exactly why I come to this site; a proper education. Thanks for the breakdown.


10.) 06 Jun 2018 20:04:13
#ed002thagod.


11.) 06 Jun 2018 21:37:46
I thought it was because of international clearance? Whatever that means.


12.) 06 Jun 2018 23:34:40
Excellent insight into the world of transfers, thanks ed002, much appreciated.


13.) 06 Jun 2018 23:38:24
It’s quite easy to understand really.


14.) 06 Jun 2018 23:40:37
thanks ed02.


15.) 07 Jun 2018 00:02:05
Thanks ed002.


16.) 07 Jun 2018 00:56:52
Great insight Ed002 much appreciated.


17.) 07 Jun 2018 09:17:39
I would guess it’s related to him needing to obtain a work permit while Dalot doesn’t.


18.) 07 Jun 2018 10:39:25
Really interesting to read ed002, Thank you. Maybe one of us should forward this to the press I blame them most of the time for people's misunderstanding of transfer issues.

{Ed002's Note - They are on "red alert" waiting for it.}


 

 

21 Jun 2016 11:41:10
Hi Ed's, can you confirm the rumours regarding the Manchester City Rumour Page approaching Ronnie to sign for them til the end of the summer transfer window?

Ports

{Ed001's Note - it is done deal, just awaiting Ronnie's signature on the dotted line....}


1.) 21 Jun 2016 12:17:27
I lead a sad life unfortunately Ports and Manchester United is my one and only love!

I may annoy a lot or if not all of you, but, I'm here! Sorry!

Ronnie.


2.) 21 Jun 2016 12:37:26
Ha, no need to apologise Ronnie, good to see a fan with as much passion as you do.


3.) 21 Jun 2016 12:47:30
Cheers Ports! 👍.


4.) 21 Jun 2016 13:02:51
Ronnie,

Keep posting buddy. Fans like you and fresh add a lot of value to the site.


5.) 21 Jun 2016 13:12:38
Keep going Ronnie, to be honest you are not doing anything different from most of the tabloids. taking a punt on a player coming in with the hope that one of them is correct. Then they can claim an exclusive.
Your suggestions are just a little more random and I don't know most of them.
I enjoy everyone on here, regardless of whether we agree. Beauty of being a fan. we have differing opinions.


6.) 21 Jun 2016 13:26:22
Keep it up Ronnie. Got to admire how you have got under the skin of a minority.


7.) 21 Jun 2016 14:33:00
How about Ronnie for England?


8.) 21 Jun 2016 16:25:04
Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh, matron!


9.) 22 Jun 2016 08:34:12
Top stuff Ronnie and Tony😀😀.


 

 

11 May 2015 21:58:07
Evening Ed's, kudos on the Benzema shout regarding the possibility of a bid being made as this has come out in some of the media today. My question is, if possible to offer an answer or opinion would be where United would stand against other clubs in the transfer. Obviously money is not going to be an issue, I should imagine we are ahead of Liverpool but I suspect Chelsea would be interested so do any of you have any insight or heard any murmurs on who Benzema would potentially favour? I'm not sure how his relationship with Mourinho was which would be a factor. Thanks for any views.

Ports

{Ed004's Note - Impossible to answer because I don't know what Benzema thinks. If he's available a number of clubs will be interested but I can't see him leaving.}


1.) 12 May 2015 15:22:40
havent we tried to sign him in the past and he said no?


 

 

 

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14 Jun 2021 10:27:08
Does anyone know what the situation is with Inter Milan and them apparently still needing to pay the remaining fee for Lukaku? I've read that they apparently owe us 50 Million Euros and if they can't pay it they could offer a player of that value? Now this is all stuff from the Media so difficult to know what to believe and not to believe. Seems to be an awful lot of money owed though if true and if all other parts are true surely we should be asking for De Vrij or Skriniar to strengthen the CB position? Or is the media reports a load of nonsense?

Ports

{Ed002's Note - They were late on payments for two players a few months ago - Lukaku for one. They won't be offering a player. This is old news thatw as dealt with at the time.}


 

 

21 May 2021 14:13:44
Nuno Santo is leaving Wolves. Wonder if there’s an opportunity to take advantage of potentially some uncertainty with the players and try and get Neves?!

Ports

1.) 21 May 2021 19:06:22
Neto or neves would be the only two I would consider Ports, both improve us I think.


2.) 21 May 2021 19:22:17
Neto would be the one for me. I really think in a couple of years time he might be one we regret not signing.


3.) 22 May 2021 10:55:19
Neto is a left footed, so we would probably play him on the right. Is he better than Greenwood, then if he played on the left, is he better than Rashford, I'm not sure he improves the first team. He would just be another DVB squad player and we have enough under23 players to push for places next season like Amad, Shoretire, Elanga and Hannibal, with academy players like McNeill who is probably a season away and will be introduced on the wing with the full squad.


4.) 22 May 2021 14:58:18
Grim, Neto is miles ahead of any of Amad, Shoretire, Elanga etc. He has played first team football in Portugal, Italy and has two full season's in the EPL.

Not that we will sign him, but if we did I'd imagine he would rotate around with Greenwood mostly on the RW, maybe with Greenwood playing more as a striker to cover for Cavani. While he could play a few games on the left to cover Rashford so we wouldn't have to play him even when injured.

Then the season after once Cavani has left Greenwood should move centrally on a permanent basis with Neto then with a season at the club under his belt becoming first choice RW. With players like Amad and Shoretire becoming squad/ rotation options for RW/ LW.

I think it could work well.


5.) 22 May 2021 17:06:56
I wouldn’t count 3 games for braga and 5 on loan at lazio as anything special shaps. He has stood out at wolves but with adama no end product traore and no Jimenez the attacking onus had to fall to someone else. He is not someone I’ll be losing sleep over not signing put it that way. At 21 he has room to improve of course but with a total of 11 career goals in total, I think we should be aiming higher. We have potential on the wings in Amad and Elanga. IMO we should either stick with Greenwood there for another season or bring in Sancho with Greenwood getting more game time through the middle to take the mantle the season after.


6.) 22 May 2021 17:56:00
Jimenez would be good signing if he’s able to come back fit.


7.) 23 May 2021 12:31:59
All the big clubs go through the dreaded transitional period where they fall down a few rungs and have a rebuild of half the squad and at least a few new managers. Things get even more desperate when the new manager doesn't fit in and so quite often the club stays in limbo for longer than expected (some might argue Utd are still in the transitional phase that began with Moyes) . Arsenal are in this phase now and Spurs are about to enter it. I think if I was a Spurs fan I would have been excited by Santos last season. This season they've been poor, seemingly thrown off course by one major injury. Still, the Santos story of how he revolutionised Wolve's in the Championship with a formation and vision that swept all aside and seemed to do well in their maiden Prem season has obviously made an impression and I imagine he'll be off to Spurs. Maybe he'll take a few players with him, there's obviously a heavy Portuguese culture at Wolves down to the relationship with Mendes and maybe he'll want to recreate something similar there. Plus pre-injury Jiminez would make a good Kane replacement. Maybe it's too soon for him.


8.) 23 May 2021 18:14:38
Greenwood is more than a season away from being our main striker as Ole has said.
So after spending £40million on Amad for the right wing, the following season we are going to spend another £40million on Neto for the right wing, er no.


 

 

14 May 2021 13:14:11
Yesterday was a poor game for us. No more, no less. Is it disappointing to lose to Liverpool? Of course it is. Is that rivalry between players for Manchester United and Liverpool what it used to be? No it's not. It just doesn't mean that much to them anymore unfortunately so you just don't get that extra 10% you'd expect in these games. Liverpool didn't even get a booking during the game! We saw the same after the City game earlier in the season. It's a shame but that is modern day football.

It should also be a little bit expected from United considering, our league season is pretty much sorted, won't finish any lower then 3rd and with a cup final round the corner, players will be wanting to make sure they get through the next few games unscathed, especially after seeing what happened to Maguire in the week. For United, this was a bit of a dead rubber match, like it or not.

We did learn a few things though which needs addressing and that is clear for everyone, we need a dominant CM in the summer that will allow Ole to play Pogba in next to him which will allow Rashford to play on the left. And a CB to partner Maguire that will allow us when needed to rest either one and partner them with either Lindelof or Bailly.

As for Solskjaer, personally, I still back him. He has changed the atmosphere at the club and the players mentality IMO, look at Shaw and Pogba and that Cavani wants to stay another year. He's had 2 Summer transfer windows and 2 January windows with probably only Maguire and Wan-Bissaka being brought for the starting 11 with Fernandes in the January one. Was VDB a signing from his wish list? I'm unsure. So if he is backed this summer and gets a CB and solves the CM problem and with a good preseason under our belts then I'd be expecting to be even closer next season with a good Champions League campaign and a good FA Cup run. If that doesn't happen, then I'd fully expect alternative options to be explored to take United forward. HOWEVER, if this does happen, who ever takes over the team will be taking over a team that is in a much better and stronger position than what Ole took over from Mourinho, from what Mourinho took over from Van Gaal, from what Van Gaal took over from Moyes and it pains me to say, what Moyes took over from SAF and that has to be seen as significant progress.

Ports

1.) 14 May 2021 14:10:34
Good post Ports, agree with most of that except the last bit of what Moyes took over from SAF. Moyes was handed on a plate a team that had won the EPL 4 times in 5 seasons. OK the team was getting old but they certainly had not hit the wall over the space of a few of months.

Last night Utd did have pride to play for and to me that is a lot but we never quite had the edge that Liverpool had, they also had to play for pride but also the fact, if they had lost then they would not be getting their hands on the best three losers cup.

Last night also pointed out to me just how important Harry is to us, if just him alone makes THAT defence half decent, then he must be some player. Interesting summer transfer market coming up imo.


2.) 14 May 2021 14:51:09
@Ports very well-balanced and a good-to-read post except for the Moyes part like Jrred said, Moyes was the architect of his own demise and that of ours.


3.) 14 May 2021 21:14:59
Good post ports. I think we're readying ourselves for the el. To win something could spark us into a winning mentality, #inoleitrust.


4.) 15 May 2021 01:16:15
ports I understand where your coming from but I don't agree.
You rightly point out some positives but you can't ignore the negatives.
Away form club record home form worst for 45 years.
El final but dumped out of CL from A1 position after 2 games.
2nd place but miles behind
Good results boring football
Happy camp i'm Not so sure there are too many happy players there. If there is there bloody well shouldn't be.


5.) 15 May 2021 09:56:58
I’m not sure anyone is ignoring the negatives Ken but to keep harping on about it quite frankly is tiresome. If anyone thinks we are worse of now then the previous 7/ 8 years and that because we are Manchester United we should just command instant success then we fall into the Liverpool fan mentality from the previous 30 years that we used to hammer them for.

The facts are at the start of the season, Solskjaer was tipped to be the first manager to be sacked, Lampard and Arteta were the next big thing in Management and and the expectations of the team were low. So all the expert pundits on tv, the experts on here all predicted failure for Solskjaer and the team. Well I reckon Mr Klopp and Mr Arteta would bite our hands off to be in our position. And as for City and the £600million pound plus they spent on defence alone alongside the “greatest manager ever” then they should be expecting to win the title by a decent margin. So I reckon judge Solskjaer at the end of next season. Oh, at just a reminder, Solskjaer has had to deal wiith Raiola and the Pogba situation and most recently the ESL nonsense and protests (which I support FYI) and ownership which is not supportive of developing consistent success in a world now that has teams like Chelsea and City with a bottomless pit of money to throw at transfers.


6.) 15 May 2021 10:14:07
So Ports essentially everything is at fault besides Ole. He wasnt a "cheque book manager" i thought but now everyone wants him to use a billion on players. Why hasn't Williams improved or Axel? Is that down to ESL or Mino/ Pogba situation. Lindelof, Fred, McT Rashford have all stagnated or gone backwards this year. The second place that is being shown as some sort of trophy is all Bruno effect and not Ole.

Lampard wasnt doing well and he was sacked and see where Chelsea are now. that's what a great manager does. Our great one got us out of the CL. Ole is always to be judged at the end of next season. We are one Bruno injury from being out of all European places. Just look at Liverpool, they have played the entire season without any CB.

And you mention Liverpool fan mentality which is fair but if we don't crave for excellence and being the best and just satisfied with top 4 or EL as success after being dumped out of CL then aren't we falling into Arsenal mentality?


7.) 15 May 2021 13:02:49
So Rashford in Solskjaers first season got 22 goals all comps, this season, 21 goals all comps, season before these 2? 13. Assists last season, 13. Assists this season, 15. The season before these? 10. This is stagnating? Mane has 9 goals this season after scoring 18 and 22 previously. Has Shaw improved? Has Wan-Bissaka improved? Are we seeing the best Pogba since we’ve had him? Has he not managed Greenwood well? Does he not deserve some credit for Fernandes breaking lampards goal scoring record or is that purely all Fernandes?

No one is saying things are what we want them to be but to completely dismiss Solskjaer and what he has done is rather silly IMO because we can all find stats to support our points.


8.) 15 May 2021 14:14:49
Ports exactly we can. No awb has not improved rashford has lost his place to pogba despite the great stats you give which imo is ludicrous. No this is far from the best pogba we've seen look at the stats. Bruno is saving ole ole is not improving bruno again imo.
Has vdb improved has degea has henderson has bailly has lindelof has fred has mctom has pogba? Tuanzebe? Martial? James? Are these guys showing great improvement? I don't see it. Most that have left him have done well dalot young lukaku smalling jesse.
So for every positive there is a negative.
People have their opinions if you find that tiresome that's OK but others will find your opinion tiresome.
Ole will be here next season will we still be ahead of chelsea and Liverpool and be much closer to city this time next year? Only time will tell. But I have zero faith in him. Zero. I think all 3 of those sides will show a greater rate of improvement than we will next season under ole. We will be in the scrap for top 4 at best and that will show zero improvement after nearly 4 years in charge.
Yes we have done better than Chelsea and Liverpool in the league this season but with little or no entertainment imo. 7 nil all draws.
6 home defeats. Falling behind in a lot of games. Slogging our way through games. Good away form in empty stadia.
Sure there have been a few highlight games but the ratio is poor.
Negative football. From the most boring uninspiring set of coaches since dave sexton in the 70s imo.
You choose to see the cup half full and that's your perogative and honest opinion. I respect that but you should not be surprised when others have a different opinion or see things very differently.
Personally my cup with ole in charge is empty in fact its broken. His team don't represent me as a manchester united supporter. He plays and sets us up and coaches in a manner that's not in keeping with the traditions and ethos of the club imo. Its a shame but that's just how I see it. Its the same as it was under jose or lvg but he's not being as successful as them yet in terms of trophies despite being here longer than both. So I'm afraid we will have to agree to disagree.
But make no mistake the conversation will continue.
You will change your mind if the others pass us out again and I'll change mine if we pass out city and stay ahead of the rest. Opinions are fluid in football as they generally change with the team or players form.
That said I won't be moved on martial🤣. I wouldn't like him if he scored a hat trick in the el final he is just not my cup of tea. I have a bias against him for sure.


9.) 15 May 2021 14:37:18
Well Ken, we can agree on Martial. I’d like to see him moved on and I think him plus cash for Sancho would be a good move for all parties.

Happy for people to have opinions and I guess it’s like brexit now, you’re in or your out and no in between 😆

But my final question is this, what were your expectations this season after Liverpool won the league, City splashed the cash, Chelsea splashed the cash, Tottenham had Mourinno, no real pre season. Genuine question, not looking for an argument.


10.) 15 May 2021 15:03:59
I posted them ports no sweat at all mate.
20 plus points on last season
Reach a domestic cup final
Get out of group stage and cl quarter final.
None to un realistic but none achieved never mind all.
Looks like plus 8 points maybe.
No domestic final and dumped unceremoniously out of cl.
We are in a final if a cup that we didn't enter so I'll take that.
Imo the only way he has earnt the right to stay on for another try is if he wins that trophy. i'm resigned to the fact he will be here regardless but I'll be calling for him to leave just as loudly as other folk want the owners to leave because I'm he is not good for the club.


11.) 15 May 2021 15:05:47
Ports BD won't pay martial 250k a week. No club in their right mind would. Sadly I feel we have another phil Jones on our hands with him. Except Phil is better looking and a much nicer chap🤣.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 10:36:07
I must say, I am surprised at some of the support this European Super League has got on this page. I guess it is easy to look for the positives when you support one of the teams that will benefit hugely from it. I wonder how Leicester, West Ham, Everton fans feel about this potential new competition?

UEFA and FIFA have received, and rightly so, criticism for their behaviour and decision making in the past and I am certainly not against a fresh new approach to help develop and improve Football and the fans experiences of football, but surely this need to be driven by an independent group, not owners of football clubs, who quite frankly have no connection, passion or commitment towards football as a global sport.

The fact that the owners of Manchester United, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc are the driving force behind this does not sit well at all with me and I think it will be a sad day that a handful of clubs get to dictate the shape of football.

I guess individuals who are supportive of this aren't old enough to remember when Deportivo were a club you wanted to avoid in the competition or when Newcastle beat Barcelona 3-2 or when a young striker called Andriy Shevchenko score a 1st half hattrick against Barcelona for Dynamo Kyiv.

Ports

1.) 19 Apr 2021 10:46:27
the fact joel is vice chairman. will they use this money to wipe the debt off?

its a sham.

fair enough if they made another comp where everyone benefited but its not

let them play in this league but remove them from existing leagues.


2.) 19 Apr 2021 11:22:36
I remember those things and you make valid points.

I think in particular the lack making into this new league on merit alone is very problematic. If they can resolve that, I don't hate the idea at all.


3.) 19 Apr 2021 11:24:46
on the contrary ports.
I'm well old enough to remember all of those things. Let me be clear.
I do not support the proposals as set out. Primarily around the founding members having right of passage every year.
But I am very much in favour of a revamped European competition with qualification dependent on how you do in your domestic competition.
The esl is a good idea dependent on how it comes together. A compromise will be found. I don't like the strong arm tactics if you like but perhaps this was the only way of bringing all parties to the table. There is piles more money to be made as a result changes will happen and comprises will need to be made by all parties.
The current set up is not maximised for the big clubs and not sustainable for the small clubs so at the moment nobody is happy either except the few in the middle who are coining it in.
Something had to bring things to a head. let's see where the compromises are on both sides. This is not going to happen over night and it will be resolved and football will be stronger as a result. It won't be the same it won't be what I grew up with. To be honest football is now so far removed from what I grew up with its like a different sport.
Patience is the key to this. Lots of people with things to protect lots of people with lots to lose and Lots of people with lots to gain.
The right to automatic qualification for founding members needs serious review but uefa and fifa also need to realise that they are not the only show in town.
I remember when the epl started there where all the same comments. I hope its more evolution than revolution but change needs to come and it will. It won't come as proposed yesterday but they will find a hybrid model that is more inclusive.


4.) 19 Apr 2021 12:51:51
I think this whole thing is going to blow up in the face of the founding 15 clubs.

I think the supporters in the main are appalled and the implications for the players of playing for one of these clubs could be significant if the FAs hold firm.

Sure, money talks but if the players are excluded from every other competition and they can't play international football then they have some serious decisions to make.

Half full stadiums could also be a reality. Playing Real Madrid then Juventus, then Barcelona has it's attraction but the novelty will soon wear off.

I think this whole venture is very short sighted. Lots of players at the top clubs come from clubs in lower leagues and this to me just bites the hand that feeds. There are better ways to spread the money around in football.


 

 

20 Jan 2021 22:24:49
I know this will get shot down, I know the Ed’s will completely dismiss it, but I think Pogba might AND want to stay. Raiola, that’s another story!

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{Ed047's Note - great idea, I’m all for it 👍🏼


1.) 20 Jan 2021 22:30:08
If he wins matches and stays committed he can stay.


2.) 20 Jan 2021 22:39:36
I would hope so, Ports. Especially if he has the same spirit and attitude. That would be the optimistic view about it.

The cynical side would be to say that he might be stepping up only because he knows it would help him get a big move and have more suitors available.

Either way, having a Pogba performing at higher standards is a win-win for us.


3.) 20 Jan 2021 23:14:19
I’m afraid the truth is he knows he’s leaving and is desperate to win the title before he goes.


4.) 20 Jan 2021 23:21:06
he as only started turning up because ther is no interest in him.


 

 

 

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06 Jun 2021 14:31:46
Why isn’t Laird being considered as cover/ competition for Wan-Bissaka? especially if the reason for trippier isn’t he’s more attacking then Wan-Bissaka. I get Trippier is more experienced but I’d be promoting Laird and giving him a few games over preseason and then throughout the season. Don’t see why we’d pay money for a RB. That money would be better off else where.

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21 May 2021 13:04:49
It's a shame Fulham went down. They try and play football and that would be a good loan for Garner to get Premier League experience too. Think Premier League is where he needs a loan to next, not sure what club would offer him that good experience and play in a way that would support his development. Maybe Norwich? Don't know much about them this season? Brighton potentially but would they risk a youngster to play regularly?

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07 Jul 2019 18:12:13
I know this maybe a silly question but why is Rojo limited to where he can move to?

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{Ed002's Note - It is not really a matter of discussion but some places - including the likes of Rojo and Keita - are restricted where they ca move to.}


 

 

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19 Jun 2019 20:25:54
Surely they should offer cash and diop for an England international with Premier League experience?!

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19 Jun 2019 20:24:19
Some fans, moan when we don’t spend, moan when we do. Pretty well documented our defence needs a big upgrade.

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24 May 2021 13:07:42
I would go with Henderson next year. I think he commands his box better and deals with crosses better than DDG. Obviously DDG makes saves that most GK's wouldn't but I think if we can strengthen our CB position with someone to partner Maguire, the chances other teams create will be less. If we can restrict teams to crosses and shots from distance then Henderson is more than capable of dealing with this. He appears to be more vocal and has an arrogance about in as well which I like.

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24 May 2021 09:58:59
I think Williams done well last year based on the team he was playing in. This season I think the team has stepped up a level and that is the reason why Williams is not getting as much game time and not looking great when he does get game time which poses the question whether he is good enough. Personally I don't think he is. Love his desire and commitment and that he is a local lad but sometimes you have to be brutally honest and just except he won't make it at United IF we have desires to push on and win titles and cups.

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21 May 2021 14:18:15
I was ok the first time round Mata stayed, thought having a pro like him around could only be positive for the team and younger players. Now though I think it’s time for him and right for him to move on. I think the mentality of the players and professionalism is better now and with Cavani and even Maguire stepping up and demanding high standards and setting strong examples, it seems silly for Mata to be taking up a place and a wage. He also deserves to end his career with one more chance to play more often than not. Great player, great professional and seems to be a great fella but now is a good time to move on IMO, sadly.

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15 May 2021 23:51:54
Ed, I can appreciate Trent is fantastic (annoyingly) but I feel the criticism of WB on here is unfair and to be honest, they are two very different players. If 4-4-2 was still a go to formation, then if I were Southgate I’d be going WB at RB and TAA ahead of him for the euros I rate TAA that highly. But obviously that’s not a formation that would be considered nowadays. The thing is, most modern day fans, young fans and this is not meant to be disrespectful to them, but they’d never appreciate a Denis Irwin, who in my opinion is one of the best, if not the best full backs the premier league (and before then) has ever seen. He just just not as exciting I guess as TAA. Of all our positions LB and RB is not our issue and I’m genuinely confident we can win things with Shaw and WB. But we need strengthening at CB and CM.

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{Ed014's Note - I didn’t read the previous posts, my bad, and didn’t realise he was getting slated, that’s mad.

I’d agree that’s two positions where those two can improve and will be genuine first 11 players for the foreseeable.

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15 May 2021 23:32:54
Ok, defensively WB is still better in tackles, blocks and interceptions. As he was the season before. So this season he has improved his attacking game. Can the same be said about TAA and his defensive game? Considering they are both defenders.

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{Ed014's Note - Ports, you want to believe that AWB is getting better and I think he is too, loved him at Palace when defending was the order of the day.

You have a great young defender in him but I’m sure we’d both take TAA if the choice was there.

AWB just needs to keep working at his game and see where he gets.