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08 Oct 2025 22:35:14
It seems the club are in talks with Maguire for a new deal. He did better last year but he isn't good enough I'm afraid. We need to be improving on him if we're to get anywhere. Just on monetary grounds I'm perplexed by this as surely he'd have to accept well under 50% of his current contract for this to even be a discussion.
1.) 09 Oct 2025 08:57:38
Good squad player, experienced head and leader in the dressing room. What’s the problem?
2.) 09 Oct 2025 09:20:25
I imagine a wage cut will be part of it as his on field time will likely drop but a solid professional to have around.
3.) 09 Oct 2025 09:24:26
He is a squad player, not a good one. Too old, slow, ponderous and he will sit on bench with little or no return for the investment.
Time to move on and not end up with another old player taking up space.
But then it ain’t no secret what I think about slabhead.
4.) 09 Oct 2025 10:44:32
Culpable for many goals conceded. He has never been at the required level for a top CB.
As per Keefy T, he is slow and ponderous. Utd need to continue to add quality and not mediocre players to challenge for the top 4, even top 6.
I think it was down to Southgate picking him for England that has kept Maguire at Utd for so long.
5.) 09 Oct 2025 11:02:37
Eric79 I listed the problems! I don't get the idea of having someone in the dressing room that is unlikely to play. That either blocks a young kid coming through or it means we don't get in a replacement. And paying someone at least 100k/ week to have the privilege of having them sit beside the players that are on the pitch definitely doesn't make sense to me.
6.) 09 Oct 2025 11:15:13
Get rid, he is beyond crap and has been one of the constants over the last few years as we have slowly descended into the abyss we currently find ourselves trying to pull ourselves out from.
19 Oct 2023 13:04:37
I was reading today that Sancho has been "put up for sale". I was wondering if any of the Eds could clarify how such a thing occurs. Does a club actually create a list of those players they are looking to sell. Obviously I'd expect there to be a list of players whose contracts are expiring, but, is there a formal process that clubs undertake. I'd always assumed what happened is that the club tells the agent of the player that they should start looking for a new club and that clubs learn of availability that way, but that seems like a really poor way to do things.
{Ed002's Note - They will inform his agent or place an ad in the Manchester Evening News "Donkeys for Sale Call ...".}
1.) 19 Oct 2023 17:16:12
We'll be lucky if we get any interest at the sale cost and his salary cost. Another sterling piece of business coming back to bite us
Presumably also Ed he would be entitled to a considerable payout from us as he has not requested this transfer?
It will end up costing us money to get rid of him.
2.) 19 Oct 2023 18:21:56
We're not very good at selling, I imagine he'll go on loan for the remainder of the season and he'll spend that on his best behaviour to secure a move unless it's a commitment to buy.
3.) 20 Oct 2023 08:53:26
Strong rumours that Nice are going to be putting in a £100 million bid in!
4.) 19 Oct 2023 16:37:33
Bit harsh on the donkeys ed, they turn up everyday on time and ready to work at Blackpool beach.
5.) 19 Oct 2023 17:00:06
It’s where we buy ours players from too Ed.
6.) 21 Oct 2023 20:58:16
Going by Amrabat performance and most of the team, does Manchester evening news have a lost and found section, because can’t believe we actually spent money on this shower!
7.) 22 Oct 2023 19:50:48
Amrabat is on loan and has started pretty well considering he had to play some games at left back
to begin with.
8.) 25 Oct 2023 07:55:20
Oh yeah GDS. Arambat was so great again tonight he only lasted 44 mins, even the ref had enough by then!
He is far too slow and ponderous just 5 yard passes back and forth, just not at the level required but then of the new acquisitions who is! But your happy with mid table I forgot.
9.) 25 Oct 2023 15:00:47
The problem is fitting in Eriksen who can only do half a game. He has made an impact every times he's come in on this way all season. Amrabat was the one to give way, no biggie.
More interested in what we'll go with on Sunday, but you can bet your bottom dollar Eriksen wil come on anytime after half time. Hopefully we'll still be in it at that point.
10.) 26 Oct 2023 11:16:38
No wonder Sancho fired back so would i if my boss slated me in public how bad is Sancho when Antony 1 of the worst players iv seen at UTD plays ahead of him mind boggling you spent 160 mill on that pair no wonder youve the ffp at the door. The Glazers get slated but boy do they spend money just on some terrible players who spots them stevie wonder.
11.) 28 Oct 2023 00:57:29
I'll start the bidding at £3.50.
04 Dec 2018 16:54:34
Ed002 if you're not doing a sharkopod then can I ask if there looks to be several ins-and-outs (2 or 3, say) this winter. I know it's usually not a time for major movements but there are serious leaks to plug - mainly in central defence and midfield - that left alone could leave us well out of the top 6, nevermind top 4 very soon.
{Ed002's Note - I really don'tr want to get involved too much on this page for a while. Too much grief.}
1.) 04 Dec 2018 23:38:31
Ed 02
Sorry to see your voice of insight and sanity disappear yet again.
I understand and respect your decision but am disappointed - not in you but in the fact you will be greatly missed.
I will say thanks and Au revoir in the hope you will return.
2.) 05 Dec 2018 00:02:13
Ed will return just let the situation with Mourinho clear up.
14 Apr 2016 12:30:51
Ed001, I saw you mentioning that we're looking at loads of players and that centre backs are being prioritised along with a marquee/ vanity signing. Which positions do you think we should be looking at.
From my perspective, I think there are lots of deadwood in the squad but for the first team picture we could have
de Gea/ suitable replacement; Fosu-Mensah, Smalling, New Signing 1, Shaw; New Signing 2, Schneiderlin/ Herrera; New Signing 3, Mata/ Herrera, Martial; New Signing 4
with Romero, CBJ, Darmian, Varela, Blind, Pereira, Lingard, Rashford being the key squad players to rotate in and out to this side. Most of the rest of the squad could be sold to fund the new signings. Is there any solid rumours on which players are being moved on?
{Ed001's Note - thinking about it, I have not heard anything regarding outs, other than De Gea. I will have to ask, as there must be at least one or two on the move, other than him.}
1.) 15 Apr 2016 01:02:40
Ed001 is de gea off from what you hear? I think we need to keep him. how many other keepers make the saves as consistently as save? He's our best player week in week out we need to build a decent defence for him.
{Ed001's Note - it is the most likely scenario. Not 100%, well nothing is, but they are not expected to make a mere token gesture this summer.}
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22 Sep 2025 18:22:07
Really good to see De Ligt get some praise. Several posters here I think really underrate him. I get why Amorim played him at RCB as he's more aggressive than Yoro but Maguire in the central position is worrying given his lack of pace. However until Licha is back I think we'll see this again. As the season goes on I expect our first choice back three will be Mazraoui, De Ligt, Martinez.
1.) 22 Sep 2025 18:35:38
Always rates him. Think he’s our best defender on his day followed by Martinez and then yoro.
2.) 22 Sep 2025 21:18:54
Delighted when we signed him, and delighted he is beginning to show what a good player he is.
3.) 23 Sep 2025 08:39:18
I really like De Ligt and think he is growing into the team a lot more and will likely see more time over the next couple of seasons with Maguire likely to leave next season.
Will be interesting to see where Amorim lands him long term whether as the centre CB or the right sided CB and in turn where Yoro lands. Expect some rotation over the next few weeks.
4.) 23 Sep 2025 12:10:58
The thing with De Ligt that has always set him apart from many of his peers is his brain.
Since he left Ajax, his capacity to grow as a player has been somewhat stymied by injury gremlins and the pressure brought by the intense spotlight and scrutiny after big fees are thrown about.
What we are now seeing is:
A. A more mature player who can handle the pressure better, and,
B. A player who has had the time and platform to assess and adapt his game to accommodate the EPL style of football.
I've questioned his pace and acceleration, but I've never doubted his IQ - he is fast becoming our defensive rock and is now among the very first names on the teamsheet.
This 'Leadership Group' thing has merit, but out on the pitch, commitment and trust present the real group that matters, and De Ligt is right up there in that one.
5.) 24 Sep 2025 08:54:17
He's been a very underrated player. I think because he's played for both Juventus and Bayern before joining us many were under the impression that he had "failed" at both other clubs. Which just isn't the case.
Juventus only sold him due to FFP and Bayern made a huge offer for him. Logically something they wouldn't have done if he had flopped at Juventus.
Bayern only sold him due to them having bought several other CB's to cover for injuries, then had too many and were looking to sell one of them. Apparently only Kim Min-Jae if the CB's was not available at the time. We made a good offer and he was prepared to move to play with his former manager.
6.) 24 Sep 2025 19:38:56
I like what you did there Eric ??.
29 Jun 2024 22:26:23
It's going to be interesting to see if Chelsea, Aston Villa and others get punished for these swap deals. Little doubt the fees are inflated. As I understand it the EPL wrote to the 20 clubs to explain this type of deal wasn't allowed. Chelsea have already taken advantage of some loopholes in their abnormally long contract amortisation (being closed thankfully) but they may have stretched it too far this time.
1.) 29 Jun 2024 22:49:57
‘Acting in good faith’ is supposedly what’s being looked at.
I’ve never heard anything so open to interpretation.
2.) 30 Jun 2024 00:29:12
Not sure how Chelsea have inflated any fees. Maatsen had a £35m clause in his contract that only BD could activate as part of the loan deal. Burnley offered £30-32m last summer which Chelsea had accepted but Maatsen turned down. An extra £5-7.5m given he’s had a year more experience + his performances in the CL at Dortmund make the £37.5m fee seem reasonable.
If talking about the Kellyman deal, Chelsea paid Aston Villa £20m for Carney Chukwemeka 2 years ago and he had a similar amount of PL experience. Given the way transfer fees have risen even over the last 2 years, it would be a struggle to prove it was artificially inflated.
3.) 30 Jun 2024 08:24:45
Fsuser I wasn't aware of that Burnley bid. My only recollection of that was a bid in the 15-20M range. This fee puts Maasten in the top few fees ever paid by Villa. The Kellyman fee at 17M for a player with so little experience can also be explained at a stretch but both fees sit at the extreme upper ends for what could be expected for these players. What seems fair is the difference in value between the two players. Ultimately I expect you are right and they'll escape sanction.
4.) 30 Jun 2024 09:00:40
It's just a way of getting funds in before the end of the season. A sale registers into the accounts straight away, whereas a purchase can be spread across the length of the contract.
5.) 30 Jun 2024 11:30:05
At worst they've exploited a loophole, immoral maybe, but they haven't broken any rules. As such they can't be punished for it.
The authorities might look to try and close the loophole for next year if possible. But they can't back date sanctions for those who used it prior to it being closed.
We just need to tip our hat to them, well played. But let's keep the focus on our own lane and not what others are doing.
6.) 30 Jun 2024 13:05:12
Exploiting a loophole isn't something I'm inclined to tip my hat towards. We've a bunch to do this year but having teams like Chelsea try exploit gaps in the law and go outside their intent makes the whole effort unequal and I think that's a clear concern for everyone.
7.) 30 Jun 2024 13:08:04
--------------Move on from finances---------------
{Ed002's Note -The PL did not write to "the 20 clubs to explain this type of deal wasn't allowed". There have been no "loopholes" exploited by Chelsea. You need to stop with all of these posts sharing misinformation.}
8.) 30 Jun 2024 14:38:38
DonRed, I fail to see how both are at their extreme upper ends of what’s to be expected. A quick google search shows that Burnley (a promoted team) had a bid of £31.5m accepted last summer. The fact that BD accepted a £35m clause in the loan sets his value for this summer. On top of all that Home Grown players always have a premium on them. United paid £30m for an 18 year old Luke Shaw 10 years ago. Given the way transfer fees have gone over the last 10 years, if you were to be buying a 18 y/ o LS today he’d probably cost £50-60m. In fact United paid £50m for AWB 5 years ago. So if taken into context, a 22 y/ o HG LB for less than £40m is actually quite a fair deal.
Again when Chelsea paid £20m for Carney 2 years ago there was no one crying foul and saying they were manipulating the market. And Chelsea actually enquired about buying Kellyman at the same time as they bought Carney, so their interest in him has been long term.
What does the difference in values between Maatsen and Kellyman have to do with anything? If United buy Branthwaite for £60m and sell Everton either AWB or Lindelof for £15m should they be investigated? Not sure what’s being clutched more; straws or your pearls.
9.) 30 Jun 2024 20:44:05
United are probably the worst for overpaying, perhaps rather than being useless we spent the last decade helping out teams in trouble, footballs good Samaritan, it would explain our plethora of crap choices anyway.
10.) 30 Jun 2024 20:07:55
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11.) 30 Jun 2024 20:11:15
-------------You simply don't undertand any of this and are being embarrassing----------------
12 Oct 2025 21:54:03
Scholes, Unless you are talking about something other than funding a political campaign you are equating two very different things. It is common - expected in fact - for rich people in the US to heavily donate to campaigns.
The Glazers as I said above heavily funded both Trump and Harris! It feels like you are searching for a reason to put them on equal footing with direct and actual evidence of human rights abuses by the groups funding these sports washing operations. I just don't see the equivalence you do. This, one is bad and the other is bad so why split hairs logic just isn't something I'm ever going to agree on.
12 Oct 2025 14:53:04
Saying that I shouldn't take sportswashing seriously because of some other indirect involvement via funding a politician before they took an action is pretty much the archetypical example of whataboutism.
11 Oct 2025 15:36:56
One is some prats I don't like. The other is a government funded operation to detract from horrific acts. You are equating direct involvement with indirect. That is whataboutism. I'm also not sure about your analysis of this. The Glazers give money to anyone that'll suit them. They funded a lot to both the Trump and Harris campaigns last time. You are stretching very much imo to put those two on the same footing.
10 Oct 2025 21:09:52
redseven are you for real? The Glazers are awful, but wanting to be a pawn in a sportswashing operation isn't something I'd like to see happen.
09 Oct 2025 11:02:37
Eric79 I listed the problems! I don't get the idea of having someone in the dressing room that is unlikely to play. That either blocks a young kid coming through or it means we don't get in a replacement. And paying someone at least 100k/ week to have the privilege of having them sit beside the players that are on the pitch definitely doesn't make sense to me.
12 Oct 2025 21:43:43
I'd imagine that's the likeliest case Redcon. It's no secret we're looking for investors in the stadium + property development project.
12 Oct 2025 13:00:18
Just look through that thread. I didn't want to embarrass you further. It's typical of the type of thing you post. I've made my point clear. I remembered that exchange quite clearly as you were ardent in that about how awful you thought Hojlund was. And here you are talking him up (or talking down Sesko depending on the point of view) . I'm not sure if you are just young but you do come across as such.
11 Oct 2025 18:52:23
Redseven, at least I'm consistent. You just complained that money used on the striker should've been used on central midfield. Here is a post of yours
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28 Apr 2025 14:11:54
As much as I think Cunha would be an excellent fit for us and for Amorim's system, I still think a centre forward should be our top priority this summer. If rumors are to be believed and we're in a position to pay £63m (€74m) for Cunha and £30m (€35m) for Delap, I'd much rather see us put up the €100m needed to sign Gyokores.
Of course. Whether or not he'd actually want to sign for us is another matter entirely.
redseven
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11 Oct 2025 16:48:57
Sesko is significantly further along than Hojlund. I don't think I've seen a single opinion of yours redseven that I agree with but this one is up there I have to say. Hojlund's issue has been his poor movement in buildup play. If you view passing maps of last year you'll see he was avoided last year. Sesko, by contrast, is already a focal point and gives a direct option we didn't have last year. Hojlund could be very good but he needs to develop in a league where he has more space. The move to Napoli is brilliant for him. Hopefully he pushes on. He's had a great start there, but you are definitely in the minority on this.
10 Oct 2025 11:50:37
Blackpool I agree with you but I'm going to be the grammar police here and point out it's "should have" not "should of"