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15 Feb 2025 17:15:34
Amad out for the season by the sounds of it. We are screwed!
26 Jan 2025 15:25:23
Seems we are keen on dorgu but doesn't look like we have the funds to pay what they want. Maybe we could look for a loan with obligation and send them malacia or amass until the summer?
1.) 26 Jan 2025 16:18:50
I’m sure we have the funds but don’t want to be held to ransom, think they would be holding out for their record transfer fee if anyone else came calling? We are right to negotiate and get him for the correct price rather than overspend again and again.
2.) 26 Jan 2025 17:12:00
We've lost 300 million in 3 years, don't think we have any money that we can spend without getting some sort of psr/ ffp penalty.
I get what your saying about overpaying, we do need to be smarter with the spending.
3.) 27 Jan 2025 15:36:20
according to 1 report we offered 16.8 plus 4 in addons . huge jump then to 33 million - apparently we are stuck at 25 now and won't go higher.
25 Aug 2024 15:01:11
Mctominay bid accepted, now it seems ugarte is finally going to happen on a permanent deal rather than a loan.
1.) 25 Aug 2024 16:29:54
Would have preferred a loan with no obligation for Ugarte.
2.) 25 Aug 2024 16:52:20
As I understand it, the player is yet to agree to move.
3.) 25 Aug 2024 20:26:09
Similar to awb he wants a payoff from us and still has to agree terms? Do these payoffs happen all the time or is it just us because we’ve been ran by clowns for so long. I never hear about this with other clubs! Ed’s can u help with this one?!
4.) 25 Aug 2024 22:13:19
Was thinking the same norn.
5.) 25 Aug 2024 22:24:59
Norn_84
It has to do with the wages they are paid. F. eks Antony gets paid 200K a week, and has 4 years left on his contract, no other team in the world would pay him those wages so if Utd were to sell him and the buying team are only offering Antony 100K and there are no other offers and Utd really want rid, they'll have to pay the remaining 100K a week for the remainder of his 4 year contract. Never pays off to give players the huge wages utd pay. McTominay gets 60K a week so i doubt there are the same problems there but it might be the loyalty bonus of 5% of the transfer fee he is looking for because as far as i know he never asked for a move.
6.) 25 Aug 2024 22:41:15
Not to mention Sancho on 250K a week and Casimero on 350K a week with 2 years still to go on his deal. These players will only move if they can get the same wages elsewhere.
Sancho f. eks (Juventus are offering to cover 100K of his weekly wages) and united have to cover 150K a week for the season loan.
Its very very costly to get rid of players on huge wages that are not justified on the pitch and that almost no team want due to their huge wages. Antony came from the Dutch league, why is he getting 200K a week when he was getting 25K a week at ajax. Couldn't 100K convince him? Shocking really.
7.) 26 Aug 2024 05:05:12
Taxes are different in Italy though. You can be paid £100k/ week in the UK and £80k/ week equivalent in Italy and still end up with the same amount in your pocket after taxes as an example.
8.) 26 Aug 2024 11:43:08
Good point Fuser.
9.) 26 Aug 2024 18:34:35
If I’m McSauce, a move to Serie A will see him being a top player there, at a great club that is a footballing hotbed. Food, climate etc. good luck to him.
As for Sancho, he needs to find his fire again wherever he goes. Right now, seems like he can’t be @rsed.
29 Jul 2024 20:23:05
Fulham are about to sign smith Rowe Rowe around 27 million plus add ons and will come back for mctominay. Rumour was they offered 15 1st time around surely he's worth more than him. Mctominay is a much better player, not the standard for us to be a starter, but would come alive at a club like Fulham imo.
1.) 29 Jul 2024 22:08:23
Likeable guy mctom. I'd love to see him do well wherever he goes if he does move on.
It's a big wrench leaving United but if he wants to maximise his playing time he needs to leave I think.
2.) 29 Jul 2024 23:43:31
He needs to leave because he is simply not good enough.
3.) 30 Jul 2024 05:28:21
I’d imagine we get lower fees for our players due to the high wages they’re on, I mean I agree that McTominay is valued more than Emile Smith Rowe but then mctominays wages will be significantly more than than ESR.
I think its time to move on, he’s a hard worker and you can see he gives 100% every time he’s on the pitch, but I don’t think he’s good enough to start for us so for the best of his career, he should move on.
4.) 30 Jul 2024 08:48:58
McTominay lacks discipline. He gives away needless fouls at the wrong time.
I'll never forgot his half arsed tracking back against Bayern last season.
5.) 30 Jul 2024 10:07:37
McTominay is like AWB for me. There are good reasons to keep them, they work hard and give everything, don't cause problems, have a specific role that they do well.
However, we are moving forward looking for players that are good on the ball, play a certain style more attacking with control. Unfortunately neither of these fit this mould.
You sometimes have to let players go to fund incomings and whilst we could keep these, the benefit of selling and re-investing means we should do this.
6.) 30 Jul 2024 11:43:56
McTominay has plenty of positive aspects. He's hard working, has a great attitude, and can be a useful player if used correctly.
He's an ideal squad player, someone who offers something different from the bench, hasn't cost anything, is on relatively low wages, and won't kick up a stink when he's not starting.
That said, at his age now I suspect he'll want to start playing regularly, and while not at the level we need to battle it out at the top of the league, he is more than good enough to be a starter for 70% of the teams in the league.
It's probably time for him to move on and play for a club where he starts most weeks. If played as a No.10 for a club like Fulham I could see him getting 10-12 league goals a season. Which would be massive for them.
The biggest hurdle he has had in his career is that people call out his short comings when he's playing in a position that isn't natural for him.
He played most of his youth career as an attacking midfielder/ No.10, bar one season where he played a run of games as the striker due to there being no one else.
Because of his size he's often been tasked with playing at CDM/ CB, but he has never really been a defensive player, and unfortunately he's not had the quality coaching in the first team to make him a defensive player.
His reading of the game, his positioning are nowhere near good enough, while his passing and technique are average and often exposed in tighter/ busier parts of the pitch (centrally and deeper) .
None of this is his fault and I feel it's not really fair to slate him for it. He is playing out of position without complaining, just sacrificing himself for the team, while doing the best he can.
Hopefully he gets a good move and has a great rest of his career, while United bring in some much needed funds to improve the first 11.
I'd wish him the best and give his a cheer/ round of applause every time he returned to Old Trafford.
7.) 31 Jul 2024 11:15:32
McT is a fantastic professional and has never been found wanting. You can point out one example v Bayern. But otherwise, always top, scored an awful amount of goals. Ideally would like to see him kept as he can be an important player for us. But, if we are in the scenario where we need to sell to fund much needed transfers, well it's unfortunate but they will have to sell him. I just hope they get what he is worth.
8.) 31 Jul 2024 12:39:04
Nearly always been found wanting for passing ability and positional sense.
14 Jul 2024 10:13:55
Rumours that Notts forest are close to signing nikola milinkovic for about 15 million.
I remember we were looking at him at one point. Has that interest completely gone, as 15 million for him is a bargain.
1.) 14 Jul 2024 11:14:59
Maybe there is a reason why he is no longer being linked with top clubs for 30-50m and is instead heading to Forest for 15m.
2.) 14 Jul 2024 11:29:11
Because the world has woken up to transfer fees? Everyone apart from Everton anyway!
{Ed025's Note - but if you have the Kohinoor Diamond Spenno you dont want sell him to someone offering Cash Converters prices mate.. :)
3.) 14 Jul 2024 11:36:41
lol Ed. Maybe Utd got stuck in the queue for him.
{Ed025's Note - its like when you are haggling for prozzie spenno, we know the deed is going to happen its just agreeing a price mate.. :)
4.) 14 Jul 2024 12:18:03
Branthwaite will come down to a simple decision.
Is it better to overpay for what you really want, or compromise and spend good money on something else instead.
The reality is that the CB market for a club with ambitions to be amoungst the best is limited.
Players like Max Kilman who is a decent, solid EPL CB is 40m when moving to West Ham. If he was joining a club like United, Arsenal or Chelsea you could add 5-10m to that price.
That is just the way the market is right now. If you are signing a younger player with potential or a top class proven player then you'll likely have to pay upwards of 55-60m.
There might be the odd exception, but you'll struggle to find more than one of those a year.
If we do the maths, there are probably around 25 or so CB's who are good enough for where we want to be. Half of those at least are already playing for a top side and we probably won't be able to get a player from them.
Which leaves maybe 12 viable options. Yet not all of those will be willing to or want to join us. While some of them might have recently moved or signed a new deal meaning they will cost a premium to get them out of there club.
Which all means there are probably about 4 or 5 viable options for us to sign who are all at the level we want/ need or have the potential to get to that level.
If we are looking to sign at least 2 maybe 3 CB's then that really doesn't give us much wiggle room.
Todibo has been ruled out.
MdL seems oddly available, and might be the exception player.
Yoro really wants Real Madrid.
Branthwaite will cost a premium.
But let's say Yoro chooses to turn us down as he wants Madrid (which is rumoured to be the most likely outcome), and we sign MdL.
We still need at least one more CB maybe two.
If we don't agree to pay a little more for Branthwaite then where to we turn?
Marc Guehi is probably one of the few who looks both good enough and potentially available. Will he cost less than 55m? Almost certainly not.
Inacio and Diomande from Sporting both look like potentially good enough prospects, both will also cost 50-60m each. While neither are proven in the EPL like Branthwaite and Guehi. Also both have exceled in a back three system, would they look as good in a back four?
Which other options are there who are both good enough and available?
Calafiori will be joining a UCL club and probably wouldn't consider joining us. Same for Bastoni if he is available.
All other options are a step down in quality and potential.
Which for me seems to bring the question round to whether its better to over pay for Branthwaite and pay 60-65m for him.
Or sign Guehi for 55-60m, Inacio or Diomande for 50-55m, or Antonio Silva who will cost 60-70m, or to sign someone that next level down like Hancko for 35-40m?
Where is the value in that market?
Surely it makes more sense to pay 5-10m more for the younger and potentially better option in Branthwaite than Guehi?
Or 10-15m more to sign Branthwaite than either Inacio or Diomande who have not proven themselves in a back four or in the EPL.
While I don't think dropping down a level to sign the likes of Hancko is really a sensible idea, we need to make sure we are signing players who can become key players in our next title winning side, not place holders until a better player becomes available.
I understand that people have mixed views on Branthwaite, and no one wants the club to over spend on players.
But if not Branthwaite then who do we sign instead?
5.) 14 Jul 2024 11:45:21
Maybe Ed, maybe. if he's the one they want it would be silly to lose out over a £10-15m gap in valuation. Maybe there's some middle ground.
{Ed025's Note - he wants to go to United spenno so i think there is a deal to be done mate..
6.) 14 Jul 2024 14:14:59
In the whole of world football there surely are really really good defenders. Why can other clubs find them, sign them and a year or so later sell them on at huge profit yet Utd can't find them?
7.) 14 Jul 2024 18:02:49
Salford, we have signed players like that, they were Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba, Bebe, Tosic, Prunier, Tiabi, Manucho, Bellion, Forlan, Vidic, Solskjaer, and Johnsen.
Sometimes they work out, but more often than not they aren't able to make the massive jump up.
Football like education has levels, and for the most part you need to build your way through the levels to get to the top. GCSEs, A-levels, Undergrad, Masters, and PhD.
There are the few special talents who could jump from GCSE or A-level right up to PhD. But they are few and far between.
Football is very much the same, players need to build themselves up in terms of technical ability, mentality, and experience before they are ready to take that next step to a massive club like Manchester United. Where the expectations are insane in terms of the level you need to play at and the consistency. While mistakes are amplified and made out to be huge errors.
Most players need a stepping stone club between their first professional club and a global giant club like United.
The biggest issue is the reason these players are cheaper is due to them being more raw, less refined and needing more coaching and development to see if they can step up to that next level. However, to do that they need game time. Which is something that is hard to come by at a top club unless you are performing most weeks.
Other top clubs have taken gambles on players like this, more often than not they end up like Victor Roque at Barcelona rather than Vinicius Junior at Real Madrid.
Even our most recent signings is an example of how it's very difficult for highly talented young players to get the minutes they need to develop at a top club. Zirkzee signed for Bayern, but never really got the game time he needed. A couple of loans and a permanent move later and he finds himself at a "stepping stone club" (absolutely no disrespect meant to Bologna) and with less pressure and more game time he has been able to flourish and show the talent he has.
We had a similar situation with Diego Forlan, highly talented player, but couldn't get the game time or had the freedom to make mistakes at United and he struggled. Then he moves to a club a step down from United and he flourishes and wins the European golden boot.
So sure, there probably are dozens of defenders who aren't quite ready for a step up to the level we will demand that we could sign. But most of them would flop if we did sign them.
I think if you have a thin squad you can afford to maybe sign one player like this a summer to have a gamble on. Knowing that they probably won't work out but you could sell them in a couple of seasons time for a similar amount as long as you don't give them silly wages.
The problem is can we afford to gamble on a player like that in such a key position when we've had the issues we had last season.
8.) 14 Jul 2024 18:42:22
Maybe our new coaching set-up can pluck out a blinder from thin air. I bet even Shappy hadn't heard of a certain Vemanja Vidic in 2005.
9.) 14 Jul 2024 19:15:40
As a Serbian I can tell u I wouldn't pay more than 30m for him. He's definitely not a top level and plays better in a formation with 3 CBs anyway.
10.) 15 Jul 2024 15:16:45
Spenno, to be honest I haven't heard of "Vemanja Vidic" until you mentioned him.
Is he any relation to former Manchester United CB Nemanja Vidic? ???
Jokes aside I mentioned that Vidic was one such success. Unfortunately for every Vidic there are half a dozen Prunier's.
I think it's much harder to pluck an unheard of player out of obscurity now. Far too many scouts scouring the world. Can still happen from time to time, but it's not a common occurrence.
I certainly hope none of the new coaching staff are suggesting transfers. Coaches should coach, leave transfer targets to the scouts and recruitment experts.
11.) 15 Jul 2024 17:07:09
Spellling, scouting, coaching, you can do it all Shappy. I'm amazed you're wasted sat at a keyboard all day!
12.) 16 Jul 2024 05:19:01
Spenno, I know you're being sarcastic, but you have just described the job of a teacher, which I happen to be ?.
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07 Mar 2025 19:16:45
What's everyone's view on the mainoo contract renewal being rejected by the player?
Apparently he's asking for 180k a week. Is it the club putting this out there in preparation for selling him in the summer and having their excuses ready? or is it a player believing in their hype too young and expecting massive wages?
I think with amad signing a new deal on 120k a week, that should be the kind of money he should be getting, we need to get the wages down that's what's killing the club. In 2 years time he will want an improved contract and what will we have to pay then. Do we risk losing a promising player or do we stick to our guns?
I like mainoo but he does seem limited and gets injured alot. Do we sell now while his stock is fairly high? Or keep him, pay him big wages and re-evaluate him in a couple of years?
1.) 07 Mar 2025 19:46:52
I like Mainoo but he’s fell off under Amorin.
I’d be reluctant to sell him but £100M could help the club probably more than keeping the player.
2.) 07 Mar 2025 20:55:57
Limited? My word. I think he is unlimited in his talent. A very special player.
They've been briefing about selling him for a while now. And the scumbags probably will.
3.) 07 Mar 2025 21:39:44
Angel, i don't think he is disciplined enough for a 6, and doesn't have great defensive abililty, very rash in tackling and his decision making needs work. he is good going forward. He's a good player no doubting that, but a bit overhyped imo.
4.) 07 Mar 2025 22:42:33
19 years old, scored a fa cup winner, already a starter for England and one of our best players.
Yep let's sell him because we are drowning in quality players.
5.) 07 Mar 2025 22:58:46
100m lol.
6.) 07 Mar 2025 23:16:40
The journalist who made the report has already distanced himself from it. Tells you all you need to know about that.
Also if United were briefing this, it wouldn’t be through Jamie Jackson.
7.) 07 Mar 2025 23:24:59
Dsg would you pay him 180k at 19? Then in 3 years time when he wants another contract your looking at 250k plus
Kids these days demanding mega wages when he’s proven absolutely nothing to warrant it.
He’s had a hand full of good games and he’s been injured for a fair bit and hasn’t exactly performed consistently this season
Yet again players taking the club for ransom and it’s one of the reasons we are always stuck with players when trying to sell because there wages are far to high.
8.) 07 Mar 2025 23:25:29
Seems daft to let him go IMO. We're crying out for another all-round midfielder with similar attributes, ok maybe one who's a little more creative, but even so to sell him would put us in the position of needing to find two excellent midfielders. Then they'll probably keep Eriksen or Casemiro lol.
If he can get more money elsewhere (which seems highly likely), and we can get enough to afford an excellent replacement, it seems possible he'll be off. But if the board's model is to be buying/ retaining young, hungry players he seems exactly what we need.
9.) 07 Mar 2025 23:28:48
Typed send before I finished
I like mainoo I think there is a promising player in a few years developing can be a regular for both United and England
But 180k for a 19 year old on the back of what? What has he done to warrant such an increase
Fair enough insensitives and bonus’s based on performances but it’s ridiculous.
I couldn’t care who is sold as long as the club have players that want and play for the badge and not just for the money.
10.) 08 Mar 2025 00:09:19
I think he is going to be a really good player. Great 1st touch and can receive the ball in tight spaces. I'd be disappointed if we have to sell him. He does lack a few pieces to be described as brilliant just yet but he is 19 and has lots of time to develop his weaker points. He will make it big imo.
That said I've no idea what money he wants so don't believe any of the numbers quoted. But if the club make him an offer the same as amad signed and he refuses it then we have 2 options.
1 sell him.
2. Walk away and reopen talks next season and leave him on his 20k a week contract which is good till 2027 plus an option till 28.
If someone came in with 70m plus and he doesn't want to sign on terms the same as amad then he is giving the club a decision to make.
Angel it will be up to mainoo if he doesn't want to leave he won't. You can't sell a player that doesn't want to leave as we know only too well.
I do think garnacho will be sold and rashford I'm hoping they generate enough without the club having to sell mainoo.
Other players the club can sell at 100% profit are
Dalot, Shaw, maguire, Bruno,
11.) 08 Mar 2025 03:30:24
Some club may give us a significant amount of money for him but I doubt very much they're going to offer him £180k per week. He has talent, but he's 19, he's had a lot of injuries, and he has much to prove. Plenty players do not progress from an initial appearance of exceptional talent. In the meantime he's under contract until 2027 so the club is in the driver's seat. Personally I think it would be beneficial to him to move away from a club that's currently struggling, in which he may have no obvious role, and instead get to grow his talent at a Champions League contender that can give him to time to develop. But United aren't going to be forced to sell on the cheap.
12.) 08 Mar 2025 09:38:47
Where's this 180k a week talk coming from? Who's briefing this?
And Danny, disciplined enough to play a 6, he is only 19. 6 is a role you learn well into your game, most develop into a 6. He has the talent to be whatever position he wants.
13.) 08 Mar 2025 09:49:19
He’s a player with fewer than 50 first team appearances. He already doubled his salary last year to £50,000 a week. For a young player with a history of injuries, that’s more than fair. But his agent has been pressing for a new contract already.
Although £180,000 is the figure being floated around, I’ve seen journalists saying that his demands are closer to £150,000 a week. This is still nuts for a player this young who hasn’t even established himself as a starter, let alone a key player.
There might be a bit of tit for tat briefing between the club and his agent, but he has done nothing to deserve a 200% pay rise. He needs to get himself fit, make himself a consistent starter, then he can start looking for a new contract. Honestly, if the choice is pay him over £100,000 or sell him for pure profit, then I’d sell him. The club can’t continue to inflate the wage bill, and a kid with limited experience looking for that amount isn’t worth the hassle.
14.) 08 Mar 2025 10:57:19
I’m old and crusty. There are zero players in the world worth the money they get. Wages have got ridiculous.
15.) 08 Mar 2025 11:22:12
Isn't it standard to reject the 1st offer in anything in life? Agent negotiating the best deal, who would have thought.
16.) 08 Mar 2025 11:23:19
Add to that I don't think his contract ends until 2027 probably with the option of another year. It'll get done in good time.
17.) 08 Mar 2025 17:18:44
Agree with that post tumble
And I can see garnacho being sold don’t think his ego has what it takes to play for us
Rashford I think unless he takes a wage cut I’m not sure we will sell maybe another loan but then his value goes down
In an ideal world
Sancho (already going)
Rashford
Antony
Casimiro
All sold and big wages off the books.
02 Mar 2025 21:50:15
I seen a stat the obi had more clear cut chances in his 52 minute appearance today than hojlund has had in 22 league games. That's mental if true. He's surely got to be given more starts.
1.) 02 Mar 2025 23:15:14
Obi looks good, he needs to get minutes which is what amorim is doing. He is ready to start getting some first team action and he is rewarded.
Rasmus is getting dogs abuse from frustrated fans, but this agenda needs to stop. Yes he is in a slump and needs to get something going. But he also has made runs and the ball doesn't come to him. Our players all need to improve their passing and creativity.
It is not Rasmus fault that the club has only one young striker and no senior striker. Zirkzee has also struggled, but is better linking up from 10 than playing striker. His linking play is very hit and miss though, with some very poor balls followed by the brilliant ball over the top for garnacho today.
We have spent 6 years playing high risk transition football and looking for a hero ball followed by individual magic. Eriksen helps in midfield but his legs have gone for epl. Casemiro same. We are going to have to be patient for a full rebuild of squad. And this will take some time, the way ineos are going about it we are years away.
2.) 03 Mar 2025 05:05:38
He is not ready and his work off the ball is almost non existent. Something going on with hoiland and maybe a sitting out a few games will be the best thing for him.
3.) 03 Mar 2025 06:39:43
Ahmad H,
Are you on about Obi or Hjolund when you say he is not ready and his work off the ball is non existant?
4.) 03 Mar 2025 12:04:39
Unless my eyes were deceiving me he walks around when we are out of possession and not enough work rate defensively. Maybe it was a one off or was instructed to stay up.
However given Rasmus's from i think he needs to sit. playing him every game like this just makes the noise around the guy louder.
5.) 03 Mar 2025 12:25:19
Obi obviously has some bulking out to do but from what I've seen in his last few cameos he's been more of a threat than Rasmus. Hopefully alternating them in upcoming games will create some competition, who can score first lol.
Seriously though, when you throw Zirkzee into the mix there is a laughable lack of attacking threat in this team without Diallo.
6.) 04 Mar 2025 08:34:38
I think David and Gomes make perfect sense if they want to come on a free transfer.
Then additional resources in midfield is the priority for me. We just don’t have the players that Amorim needs there. We have pmertnof cover at the back for now and would expect Yoro to step up. Branthwaite could be fin on the left of tjat back three, but he will be pricey.
Finally, if the coaches see something in Hojlund. Let’s back the young man and bring in an experienced striker he can learn from, like we did with Cavani type deal.
Let’s be honest guys, we won’t be in a Europe, and we are likely to finish 15/ 16th, so our options will be limited to younger players, free transfer and experienced players winding down.
7.) 04 Mar 2025 09:32:29
If Ipswich go down, greaves and Delap would be astute purchases.
16 Jan 2025 22:29:24
Amad! What a player we have in our hands, singlehandedly won us a game we looked destined to lose. If only we had another 2 or 3 of him. If we want the high press he needs to be playing further forward, he just doesn't stop.
Have to say onana was brilliant today too, made a couple of quality saves to keep us in it.
Also collyer looked really good again, casemiro is done now, let's hope we can move him on this window.
1.) 16 Jan 2025 23:46:53
Been a while since I had the pleasure of seeing a player score a hat-trick for United. Had a quick look but can't find the last one. RvP maybe?
2.) 17 Jan 2025 00:02:31
Been a few since RVP but not too many. Martial, Bruno and 2 for Ronaldo. 1st one since 2022 though.
3.) 17 Jan 2025 00:14:27
It was Ronaldo spenno.
4.) 17 Jan 2025 00:15:57
Ronaldo got three against Norwich in April 2022.
5.) 17 Jan 2025 03:00:37
Top lad, keeps going. I wish someone would tell him to stop waving his finger at refs, the way refs feel about us he'll get sent off one of these days. He's been our best attacker for a while, so happy for him today.
6.) 17 Jan 2025 06:12:19
Ronaldo.
27 Dec 2024 14:38:58
Is now the time to bring in some of the younger players and think about the future? Amass and collyer look like good players who are ready, biancheri, Ibragimov, ennis, missin and chido all look like they have something about them. Surely we should be looking to integrate them and give them some chances.
Money is a big problem for us, we don't have anything to spend so surely we have to have a look at other options within. See how they get in and if it doesn't work they can go back to the youth teams. Remember rashford and greenwood only got chances because we were missing players and they both turned out to be decent players.
1.) 27 Dec 2024 15:49:04
dannyc
I reckon RA's already working well on bringing the youth players into his consideration, but he will need to see the application of his footballing culture being fed through from the academy coaches before many of our youngsters can really be considered.
The need for system fit is displayed nicely by the opportunities provided to Collyer and Amass. Collyer will get senior gametime because, as a defensive-minded midfielder, his game carries well through the transfer from 4-3-3 to 3-4-2-1. However, Amass might struggle to get gametime because he doesn't yet possess the levels of athleticism or composure necessary for the role of Wingback.
The acquisition of Diego Leon should be taken as the perfect example of how RA's mind is working - it's all about the strengths. Amass, prior to ten Hag being given the shoe, was much-lauded as the next big thing, but the role of LB suits his capabilities better than the role of LWB does. RA could have ridden the steady current of sentiment by allowing Amass and, less so, Murray to be viewed as the best youth options, but no, he clearly wants a player with a more bombastic style to provide more dynamic competition.
I know the logic of sink or swim is supported by many, and it is compelling, but the hope to swim can only really be feasible when the instinct and/ or inherent aptitude is there.
It could well be that, while our youth teams are showing real quality against their direct peers, they might individually be still lacking the more dynamic skillsets required for RA's system.
Ennis, for example, could become an incredible talent, but does he yet have the discipline for the role of a 10 and could he ever be considered an option for RWB?
Sink or swim, I believe it's currently wiser to measure the introduction of the youth players very carefully, especially when the waters are currently so choppy that the experienced heads are floundering.
2.) 27 Dec 2024 16:18:27
100% agree. Shelve the lazy senior players and blood the youth. This season will have ups and downs for sure but it's easier to take the downs if there is a plan and they players are working hard.
3.) 27 Dec 2024 16:28:11
What I have seen of Chido he looks good, but not ready for the EPL, maybe next season. Biancheri might be worth a try while Garnacho is struggling and Rashford seems to be on a plane to Italy.
4.) 27 Dec 2024 22:02:57
Grim I'd give him a go next game, he's a big lad and the physicality won't be a problem, it's a win win, he gets some 1st team experience and worst case it and it doesn't work it will shove a rocket up the other striker arse knowing a young kid is starting ahead of them. We're probably going to lose anyway.
For the next game I'd go onana, mazraoui, de ligt, maguire, yoro, amass. Mainoo, collyer, amad, garnacho, chido/ biancheri
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5.) 28 Dec 2024 14:08:47
I can guarantee the moment a team filled with these exciting kids filled with nothing but potential gets a tanking most here will be up in arms about why they were thrown into a Premier league game.
6.) 28 Dec 2024 20:41:30
Spenno spot on and more importantly you can't throw young kids to the wolves. Playing them in an under performing team could seriously damage their confidence and development. Fergie was the master at blooding young players into a team which was successful and had sting players / leaders who would take them under their wing and guide and protect them. That's not possible with this Utd team.
7.) 29 Dec 2024 01:30:26
If anything, I'd say Amass is more suited to the LWB role, than LB.
8.) 29 Dec 2024 03:34:29
You will injure some of them, they are physically in many cases not even ready. They work with these players everyday, trust the coaches that if one or two are semi ready they would get their chance. Let them keep developing.
25 Nov 2024 10:55:16
I don't know how many times I've said it, it's the players that are the problem not the manager. We had a good manager in eth and the players let him down massively, ultimately he lost his job.
We get another manager in, early day still because he's only had a few days with most of them, but it's the time to impress and not one of them grab the game by the scruff of the neck or try to be brave, it's all simple passes looking for the safe option. Onana touches the ball more than any of the supposedly creative or attacking players. It's not good enough at Manchester united
Our biggest problem is now apart from this embarrassing group of players is ffp, average players brought for massive money and on massive wages and we can't shift them, how is the new guy ever going to succeed with what he has and no money to get players in he would like.
We need a total reset in the summer. Hopefully amorim can blood some hungry youth team players before now and the summer and we cut some massive losses on over payed freeloaders and get them off the books.
I've said it before but we need keano to come in on the coaching team, can you imagine having to come in at ht or ft having put in a half arsed performance like that? He would tear them all a new one and sort the men from the boys.
1.) 25 Nov 2024 12:39:20
Spot on dannyc.
2.) 26 Nov 2024 00:35:08
We didn’t have a good manager in ETH though did we, his managerial skills were terrible, his team selections were awful and he couldn’t handle the pressure, his interviews were that of a mad man and his substitutions were like he was picking them out at random.
He may prove to be a good manager elsewhere but he wasn’t a good manager for us.
29 Jan 2025 20:40:42
You couldn't make it up. Hasn't played a full game for us in over a year, we're about to sign a young lb and he's back! I'm sure something similar happened when we signed malacia.
If by some miracle happens and he gets back in the team I hope he's used a cb and let the young lad grow and develop.
26 Jan 2025 17:12:00
We've lost 300 million in 3 years, don't think we have any money that we can spend without getting some sort of psr/ ffp penalty.
I get what your saying about overpaying, we do need to be smarter with the spending.
18 Jan 2025 20:09:19
Not a bad shout spenno.
29 Aug 2024 16:46:48
Chiesa didn't have a future at juve and no other teams in for him says it all. He was decent a few years back but that injury he had killed him. I think he will struggle with the physicality of English football.
25 Aug 2024 22:13:19
Was thinking the same norn.
05 Apr 2025 21:59:49
Lad looks class. I heard he's got a massive contact with nike already and he's only a baby really. Him and his family are close friends with ronaldo and his boy so hopefully he puts a good word in his ear and tell him to stay put where he is.
10 Mar 2025 20:54:14
Agree tumbleweed, he handled himself well and gave some good insight. People can make assumptions on the state of the club but he is the one that knows the truth and what needs to be done.
I think it was good that he done the interview and that it was with neville as he is a fan and united through and through gave him a bit of a rough time.
07 Mar 2025 21:39:44
Angel, i don't think he is disciplined enough for a 6, and doesn't have great defensive abililty, very rash in tackling and his decision making needs work. he is good going forward. He's a good player no doubting that, but a bit overhyped imo.
24 Feb 2025 21:15:58
Yellow cards resulting in 10 minutes in the sin bin, like they do in rugby. It would cut out diving, cynical tackles and time wasting, also would stop players surrounding/ screaming at refs.
15 Feb 2025 23:01:34
Next 3 games are massive for us. Spurs, Everton and Ipswich all teams around us. I think we need a couple of wins then we're safe from the relegation threat. After that most of our games look tough.