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06 May 2025 11:36:18
Fernandes linked with Al Hilal again. The money being talked about, if true, could significantly help with a squad rebuild.
Personally I worry replacing his assists and goals may make any deal bad but have seen one quote as €120 million. Would be about £80 million after Sporting Sell on fee and final amount of. amprtized deal.
1.) 06 May 2025 12:02:38
Would be crazy letting him go right now. He contributes so much in terms of goals and assists. Would be one hell if a gamble.
2.) 06 May 2025 12:16:01
I think it is upto the players. If he wants to leave, let him leave.
3.) 06 May 2025 17:56:37
I would be shocked if Bruno wants to play in such a league at this time, I appreciate money talks, but maybe in couple of years.
But if he did go we got mega problems, him and Cas are only good players we got.
4.) 06 May 2025 20:03:03
Only thing on my mind is Fernandes is 30, 80 million is roughly 240 to spend and means we shouldn't need to sell Garnacho or Mainoo this summer.
Its not going to happen but at that fee it surely makes the powers that be question it, if it were to come to fruition.
5.) 06 May 2025 20:31:08
Fernandes turns 31 in September. Every player has avalue, especially if the Saudis come in with a lucrative offer.
6.) 06 May 2025 22:54:53
By all accounts the fee could be even higher than that. There has to be a price at his age and our present standing.
7.) 07 May 2025 05:47:08
I think this is one of those situations where no matter what happens the club are likely to be seen to be doing the wrong thing.
On one hand Bruno is our captain, our leader on the pitch and currently our best and only player close to being world class. Losing him would absolutely have a negative impact on the team, at least in the short term. While there are absolutely no guarantees that any money he brings in would be spent on the team or if it was that it would be spent wisely. Remember when Spurs sold Bale and bought 3 or 4 players with the money. None of them came close to providing even a quarter of what Bale did.
On the other hand he is 31 in September, on huge wages, and will only decline on the pitch. When that happens is anybody's guess. Maybe he does a Modric and keeps playing at a high level for another 5 or 6 years, or maybe his body starts giving up on him over the next couple of seasons. He has after all worked it harder than most, rarely injured, playing the majority of available minutes every year for the past 5-6 years or more. Does he even know how to slow down and manage himself? While if the rumours of a record British sale price are true then it isn't an offer the club can dismiss out of hand. Sacrificing Bruno in the short term might be the better option for the club in the long term. It helps rebalance the wage structure by getting another higher earner off it. While if the money is reinvested well in the squad then we could bring in 4 maybe even 5 players who if even half of them go on to be vital first team members means that we've improved the team overall.
Whatever happens the naysayers will be out in force. If we sell him then we lack ambition, and have lost our best player. If we keep him then the moment his form drops they will say we wasted the opportunity to sell him for a huge fee and the club is being mismanaged.
For what it's worth I've changed my view over the course of the season. At the start I even suggested that we might need to sell Bruno as he might not be a great fit for Amorim and that he wasn't the long term solution. I likened it to Liverpool selling Coutinho after Klopp joined. He didn't quite fit the system and the funds helped buy key players who did.
Yet now I'd say it makes more sense to keep him. I've seen how valuable he has become for Amorim. A key player who helps set the managers vision on the pitch. He has adapted his game and shown that he can do so and still put in top class performances. He has grown as a leader on the pitch, with some of the pettiness and rubbishhousery being cut out of his game. While he his experience is vital for what is becoming a much younger and inexperienced squad. His professionalism has never been in doubt, he trains hard, and is committed to the club. I think we lose vital things needed for the rebuild of this squad if we sell him, things that just cannot be replaced. For that reason I think it's best we keep him.
However, that's just my opinion. Ultimately this decision needs to be in the hands of the player. If he wants to move on and take the insane wages on offer then it will be the right time to part ways. I won't begrudge him that opportunity, nor will I hold it against him. I'd thank him for all he's given us and wish him well. Then move on and see how we can use the money to improve the squad. If his head is turned then there is no point in keeping him. Likewise, if he listens to the offer and decides "no thank you" then it reconfirms his dedication to us and proves he is the right man to captain us over the next few years.
I hope he stays as we are a far better team with him than without him.
8.) 07 May 2025 06:03:28
If he wants to go, let him go.
9.) 07 May 2025 06:59:03
I don’t think anyone heard Bruno say he wants to go to Saudi league, I don’t think anyone even seen any drop off in his standards that show he may want to leave…. So basically it’s just noise, even if the club like the sound of 100 million plus if he don’t want to go, he don’t go, I am not saying that if a RealMadrid was not looking for a Modric replacement he would not be straight on the plane and who could blame him, but I really can’t see at this stage of his career him going to Saudi, even at 30-31 he does more running then most of our players and certainly better than them all.
10.) 07 May 2025 08:39:36
The press is reporting a British record fee which would be north of £118m. Bruno turns 31 next season, with the issues at the club financially and from a playing staff standpoint we would be crazy to turn down the cash. Bruno’s original contract lapsed so his net book value doesn’t have any debt on it.
We have players coming to the end of their contracts that need replacing (Heaton, Evans, Eriksen and Lindelof) . Players that are likely to leave that need replacing (Malacia, Sancho, Rashford and Antony) hopefully we receive a decent fee for these players. Players that can’t be relied upon due to ongoing injury issues (Shaw, Mount, Martinez) and players that the club would like to replace (Onana and Casemiro) .
The above doesn’t event take into account that we are short on both sides of the fullback role, we desperately need another midfielder and an established striker.
Rangnick was right about needing open heart surgery, we have just left it 3 years and spent an incredible amount of money since he left poorly. Hopefully those days are over.
I personally think we sell, reinvest and rebuild.
11.) 07 May 2025 09:23:21
Redseven and if he doesn't want to go?
12.) 07 May 2025 11:07:36
I think the choice will be his. He obviously had a chance to make a Saudi move recently and approached the club to convince him or the direction and that they still wanted him, which they did. Maybe the same situation arises in the coming weeks.
13.) 07 May 2025 15:43:31
If he’d rather stay, then that’s good too.
14.) 07 May 2025 15:52:12
Hope he stays. The club will be able to buy and build without selling Bruno.
Sure if we sell Bruno, we have a few extra quid, but there is no guarantee we replace that quality. I'd rather build with him than without.
15.) 08 May 2025 17:50:06
I'm indifferent to be honest. That goes for any player in the squad. I doubt bruno wants to leave if he doesn't then that's good. We have other players to sell.
If he wants to go amd take a reported 65m tax free season i certainly wouldn't blame him. The free reported would be well received.
I think he will stay. I think he will want to stay.
I think the manager would sacrifice lots of others like garnacho and rashford or even mainoo before bruno.
We need to sell 100% profit players i think it will be rashford and at least 1 other. If we don't make cl then it will probably be rashford plus 2 others.
09 Aug 2024 21:06:19
Any truth that progress has been made on De Ligt and Mazraoui? Plettenberg tweeted they will join in Aug, Further positive and ongoing talks.
{Ed002's Note - The options remain as I have explained. Prices need to be agreed.}
1.) 09 Aug 2024 21:14:21
Thanks Ed, I may have got hopefully optimistic lol. Have a great weekend.
{Ed002's Note - And you.}
2.) 09 Aug 2024 21:19:32
Really done see de ligt as a good option, high fee high wage, very similar to Maguire maybe a bit better in the tackle.
Be interested to hear what ed001 thinks about MDL I think he would really struggle with the speed of the prem especially in a high line.
{Ed001's Note - I don't rate him at all, Ed77 calls him the Dutch Harry Maguire and I think that is a decent approximation, though De Ligt is better on the ball. He played a few games in midfield early in his career and looked much better in there, but as a defender he lacks massively. His reading of the game is not good enough to make up for his lack of pace and his positioning is, at best, dodgy. I really do not see him as a good choice at all.}
3.) 09 Aug 2024 22:44:05
De Ligt feels like an unusual one for me, especially as we already have Maguire who appears to be going nowhere. He’s also not shone at Juventus and Bayern.
JB is the signing for me at centre half from Everton and hope it happens.
4.) 10 Aug 2024 08:41:14
Ed, Bayern want to buy his replacement for 20m less. Red flags all over the place.
But if he is just a back up to share the load, I'm hoping it turns out to be an inspired piece of business.
5.) 10 Aug 2024 08:50:04
Personally I'd avoid both MdL and Mazraoui. While I think Mazraoui is a better fit stylistically, his injury record is appalling.
Bayern don't tend to sell good players who go on to bigger and better things. In fact the only player I can think of to leave Bayern and achieve greater success is Toni Kroos.
Every other player I can think of that has left Bayern have either taken a step down or declined upon leaving.
There is a reason why Bayern are prepared to sell Mazraoui and MdL this summer and it's not because they are being forced to buy financial pressures. They are selling them because neither are considered good enough or value for money.
While we are struggling to sell our cast offs let's not do other top clubs a favour by buying theirs.
6.) 10 Aug 2024 08:58:09
I get the doubts, but not the Harry M comparisons.
Maguire problem is that he has poor positioning and compounds it with abysmal mobility. MEL's positioning may not be the best, but it is far better than Maguire's, and his mobility is at least reasonable.
He's also noticeably better on the ball.
7.) 10 Aug 2024 09:09:28
Too tall, too small, too slow, too injury prone, too whatever.
This dream team of half a dozen people above ten Hag have identified these players. Do we know better?
8.) 10 Aug 2024 09:42:07
Half a dozen above ten hag identified him? Did they spenno? Remember Eth extended his deal not signed a new one he still has a level of control over signings MDL seems a very ETH signing.
9.) 10 Aug 2024 10:57:56
I’ll leave it to the essayists and forum experts to decide.
10.) 10 Aug 2024 11:28:21
Rumours are that he is facing criminal charges for ramming another car and driving off. Sounds like he will fit in well at old Trafford. It's nearly a prerequisite to have players at the club that are in trouble with the law.
I hope we go back to Everton and stay well away from MDL.
11.) 10 Aug 2024 15:53:08
Some people are never happy, deligt is an upgrade on what we have, as is mazraoui, no?
06 Aug 2024 23:55:56
Enquiries started over Youssouf Fofana supposedly. Never seen him play but supposedly available for around 30 million, depends how bought into AC Milan he is/ was.
1.) 07 Aug 2024 08:30:07
read on 3or 4 sites they doubled the price when UTD came calling -Milan offered between 14-18 mill euros depending on what news outlet you believe - going into his last 12 months of his contract 30 mill is way too much.
2.) 07 Aug 2024 11:11:30
He doesn't seem to have set the world alight whenever I've watched him but maybe he can do the job required. The players in this DM position vary from being quite understated and tidy to being gung-ho and jumping in all over the place. Not sure which variety he is!
3.) 07 Aug 2024 13:06:31
He's a good player, different to Ugarte, but still has lots of useful qualities our midfield lacks.
I wouldn't be surprised if the price went up when we inquired. Partially because we have a reputation of over spending on players, but also because simple supply and demand. How much Monaco can ask for a player when just one side is interested in buying him is significantly less than when there is a potential bidding war.
People have seen the price Joao Neves went for to PSG and feel that maybe we should have bid as well, but if we did then that would have jacked up the price. Same thing last summer when Kane went to Bayern Munich.
I think if we can't get our first choice then we need to be sensible and look at what options are available. No point spending all our budget on a 2nd or third choice option who ultimately probably won't be good enough. Better to get a cheap player who adds something and lifts the floor of the squad, keeping our powder dry to spend next summer on a quality first choice option who raises the ceiling of our squad.
04 Sep 2023 14:04:57
Do any of the Eds know if there is any interest for Sancho from any of the teams in the Saudi League. I just can't fathom a way forward after yesterday, even just till January. I suppose Jadon would be happy to get away from the circus as well.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 04 Sep 2023 16:44:57
Turkey maybe or Saudi that's it.
2.) 04 Sep 2023 17:13:54
Anyway you chop this up we're going to have to take a big loss on Sancho. His wages are reportedly in the region on £350,000 a week. That would be on par with the likes of Salah, Hallan and De Bruyne.
He has not shown any consistency since he's got here, he hasn't developed or improved at all and would struggle to get into most teams hoping to challenge for trophies.
His mentality mirrors how he plays on the pitch, weak. A team of professionals fighting to be in the first 11, if a manager is saying you aren't picked because you are not showing as much in training as the others then you should respond by working harder, not giving your fingers a work out on social media.
Pellestri was dead and buried at this club until Ten Hag liked what he saw. By all accounts he just put his head down and worked hard everyday. He surpassed the likes of Elanga for a spot on the bench and looks like he's surpassed Sancho too. It's a message to everyone at the club that we have standards.
Sanchos contract is until 2026 which means we're on the hook to pay him £55,000,000. If he is to leave then no club is as stupid as we are with contracts, he's going to want us to chip in with his wages.
Also take into account the fee we'll get will be minimal compared to outer initial outlay.
Saudi would help us a lot because of their wages but will he want to go there?
Anyone else will give us peanuts and expect us to pick up his wages too.
There is a few players still at the club that are on stupid wages who we couldn't give away.
This will take awhile to get the club on the right track, but our recent history of offering Mount, Casemiro and Varane big contracts means we'll probably never be a club that has its wages under control.
3.) 04 Sep 2023 21:54:48
I’m sure they’ll sort it out like responsible adults ?.
4.) 04 Sep 2023 23:22:19
I can remember being shocked when we signed Sancho, I didn't think we had a chance. I can remember the editor being surprised too, but now we know why, £375k a week.
Insane, amateurish.
5.) 05 Sep 2023 06:48:30
I remember Ed01 saying he is nowhere near as good as people think he is or saying he is, he has probably been even worse than that.
6.) 05 Sep 2023 08:36:18
I was pleased when we signed him to be honest. Thought he might solve our issues on the right - sadly not worked out.
We need to not keep these players for prolonged periods. Sell him and move on - let the lad kick start his career elsewhere and we get rid of a player that’s not working. Sadly for Jadon, I think he’ll need to make a step down to make a move back up to where he thinks he belongs, but I doubt he has the mindset for that.
I’d rather give Pellestri and Amad a run to compete with Antony, and play Donny as back up 10!
7.) 05 Sep 2023 11:45:28
Eric
The first reply was funny and made me laugh.
On your second reply, I hope Donny goes too, we need players who are not good enough gone. he is not cut for the PL and no wonder no interest within the league even for a loan.
Having him hang around for a handful of 15 minute cameo's, when we have injuries or winning a game comfortably is not good for him or the club. He needs to go to a club, where he plays week in week out. Never going to be that at United and I suspect will cost us to move him. his wages are up there too.
16 Jul 2023 16:16:50
Be interesting to see if now West Ham have sold Rice if their purported interest in Maguire and/ or McTominay come to anything. Fingers crossed ?.
1.) 16 Jul 2023 17:06:07
Ten Hag is clearly doing what he can to get rid of Maguire. Dropped him to 5th choice CB, taken the captaincy off him. He needs to leave for the good of himself and the club.
2.) 16 Jul 2023 17:18:59
I wonder whether Maguire receives some interest from abroad as the window goes on. He needs to decide what he wants from the remainder of his career, he could be stubborn and see out his contract (still has 2 years to go) and accept he will not be first choice or maybe even first change. and he has every right to do that even if we do not want him to.
I think there will be an agreement for him to seek a transfer with the best team for him, I think it was mentioned that we may have to either pay up some of his salary to help or take less on sale price. Unfortunately may be something we have to face if it helps the sale.
3.) 16 Jul 2023 17:53:58
Maguire needs to play in a side who play at a slow pace (Inter, Juventus, Milan etc. ), or a side who play deep and with three at the back (West Ham, Everton) .
My money is on him playing for one of those 5 sides come September 1st.
4.) 16 Jul 2023 18:34:20
Everton won’t have the cash for Maguire so can’t be them, but you’re right he’d be excellent in Italy (and Saudi if he fancies the $$$) .
5.) 16 Jul 2023 19:51:46
think it needs southgate to give him the final nudge by telling him if he isn't playing for UTD he can't play for England, he did for a while but not doing it now going forward.
6.) 16 Jul 2023 20:34:39
Shouldn't need to tell him. It is a whole season until next tournament. Harry should see that coming himself. And to be fair, I'm sure he does.
7.) 16 Jul 2023 20:50:02
BfB,
I agree with you, Southgate should have dropped him. Instead, along with Philips, they have become undroppable despite their lack of game time.
8.) 16 Jul 2023 22:33:38
Am I the only one that feels Maguire is getting a really unfair Schtick here? Yes he’s slow by modern CB standards but no way is he Everton standard. I feel the Liverpool and Leeds fans have led the ridicule and it’s stuck. Out of all the bang average not quite there players we have, surely he’s not such a panic sell?
9.) 17 Jul 2023 01:47:19
Yes it's only you.
10.) 17 Jul 2023 06:36:32
Spikey, its not just you. Maguire hasn't worked out and he was overpriced, but people make out he's a donkey which visit ridiculous. Even when he had a solid game people would find one dodgy moment to reinforce their negative view.
He needs to go but the negative pile on is a little distasteful.
11.) 17 Jul 2023 10:41:56
Maguire is Spursy
McT is West Ham material.
12.) 17 Jul 2023 11:16:40
Maybe if they fancy Martial and Elanga too we'll throw in a free set of crutches for Martial?
13.) 17 Jul 2023 12:36:37
I agree Spikey, I don't think any one is under any illusion that he's good enough to play in a top level team. Any team that wants to play with a high line and on the front foot is going to highlight his deficiencies. However, the juvenile banter around him paints the picture of someone who be better plying his trade in non-league, as opposed to a guy who could do a decent job at a club like West Ham. People are quick to forget how important he was during his first season for us, and the concern generated when he was going to miss the Europa League final vs Villareal. Leave the 'banter' for the brainless twitter lot.
14.) 17 Jul 2023 13:17:20
I think Maguire never xame back to Utd the same player after the Greece debacle, and then the constant criticism from media, fans (our own included) along with ridiculous videos/ memes have crushed the Maguire we signed.
For me he needs to go, get out of that limelight amd show what he is capable if, why Utd signed him and the player he still seems to be for England. Good luck to him whereever he goes, it just didn't work out.
15.) 17 Jul 2023 17:05:25
United have outgrown him, but he will make a great CB for some team. Afterall, he was named in the official Euros team of the tournament and Sky Sports team of the World Cup …So that’s not the donkey everyone seems to be saying he is. Good luck to him wherever he goes I say.
16.) 18 Jul 2023 07:33:05
Maguire was just a very very bad purchase given who we could have signed. When you come in with his price tag, you are always going to be under the spotlight. Woodward and the rest of the people who sanctioned the deal are the real donkeys in all of this and not Maguire.
17.) 18 Jul 2023 08:08:51
I agree with the people above suggesting he goes abroad for his career, if that’s something him and his family would be open to, who knows. I think a team like Roma or Atletico Madrid would really suit his game. In a low block counter team he’s got all the attributes you need. He’s a very good player, he just doesn’t suit a high back line.
18.) 18 Jul 2023 09:43:22
I think lots of teams would be interested in Maguire but his wages are the issue. Generally the case with most of the players we are trying to move and must be a factor in the fees we get.
Given our FFP situation I am making an assumption the club wants to avoid taking losses on the unamortized portion of players cost that's sitting on our books and he is the toughest one to solve for.
19.) 18 Jul 2023 11:46:16
Maguire was never helped by De Gea staying on his line so much as he didn't have the speed to cover inevitable gap De Gea left.
Thus, ironically, Maguire might be a beneficiary of Onana's sweeper-keeper style, and even thrive if given the chance.
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29 Apr 2025 21:37:01
Asked AI for its opinions based on news outlets, media, social. media and blogs etc who the top 10 realistic targets for UTD are, was an interesting set, some I'd heard of and others no clue:
Summary: 10 Players to Watch**
✅ **Matheus Cunha** – Wolves ST
✅ **António Silva** – Benfica CB
✅ **Johan Bakayoko** – PSV RW
✅ **Morten Hjulmand** – Sporting DM
✅ **Ángel Gomes** – Lille AM ** (FREE) **
✅ **Jorrel Hato** – Ajax LCB
✅ **Assan Ouédraogo** – Leipzig CM
✅ **Takefusa Kubo** – Sociedad RW
✅ **Giorgio Scalvini** – Atalanta CB/ DM
✅ **Nico Williams** – Bilbao LW.
1.) 29 Apr 2025 21:57:46
That was deepseek and ChatGPT had others in mind. Think both out of date but interesting in some who have been said I hadnt seen linked:
1. Matheus Cunha (Wolves) – £62.5M (release clause)
2. Francisco Trincão (Sporting CP) – £42.5M (midpoint estimate)
3. Gonçalo Inácio (Sporting CP) – £51.5M (release clause)
4. Marcus Edwards (Sporting CP) – £27.5M (estimated)
5. Morten Hjulmand (Sporting CP) – £66.5M (release clause)
6. Jean-Clair Todibo (West Ham) – £26.7M
7. Antoine Semenyo (Bournemouth) – £23.3M
8. Angel Gomes (Lille) – Free (out of contract in 2025)
9. Hayden Hackney (Middlesbrough) – £6.8M
10. Antonee Robinson (Fulham) – £23.7M.
24 Apr 2025 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Philip_hunter2003 has posted a new article entitled, Football Finances Simplified
17 Nov 2024 20:26:16
ED002 rest in peace. Will genuinely miss your updates, utterly heart . Have been following this site since mid naughties I think and he's been such an incredible part of that. To all who new him closely I'm really sorry for your loss.
08 Aug 2024 18:38:53
Leverkusen have set a deadline for midnight tonight supposedly for Tah deal. Bayern hierarchy have said they need to sell before anymore additions. Looks like they will need to either lower demands for De Ligt or accept he is there for another season, and miss out on Tah.
Leverkusen have set a deadline for Bayern regarding the transfer of Jonathan #Tah, which expires today at 11:59 PM ✔️
Leverkusen wants planning certainty, but Tah is determined to make the move.
1.) 08 Aug 2024 19:15:51
Bayern aren’t signing tah, Duno if deligt stays now or not.
2.) 08 Aug 2024 22:35:59
Maybe we should sign him?
3.) 09 Aug 2024 06:21:18
Cheaper and available now, that would be something.
06 Aug 2024 11:13:56
Just seen below. Hopefully this will allow for MdL deal to be finalised and at a figure closer to what we have stuck at.
"It’s €25m + €5m between Bayer 04 Leverkusen and FC Bayern for Jonathan #Tah - as revealed in our show and now confirmed as per Stephan von Nocks ✔️
As soon as Matthijs de Ligt will join Manchester United, Bayern will finalize the deal with Tah. "
1.) 06 Aug 2024 12:43:07
A deal is dependent on Bayern being more flexible with their asking price.
It's a deal I expect will be done at this point.
He's a very good player, although I do have a couple of reservations about him (I'm not sure he's an ideal partner for Martinez, and he has had a mixed injury record) .
Hopefully if he signs he works out for us, although very few players that Bayern sell go on to bigger or better things.
2.) 06 Aug 2024 13:58:19
Bayern getting their replacement for 30m but looking for us to pay 50m for deligt ? make it make sense.
3.) 06 Aug 2024 16:53:07
Clubs have mugged us off for nearly 20 years under the Glazers, they still think they can.
4.) 06 Aug 2024 19:12:53
Psg doing the same with ugarte, they sign neves his replacement and want us to pay for it and little more basically.
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06 May 2025 20:03:03
Only thing on my mind is Fernandes is 30, 80 million is roughly 240 to spend and means we shouldn't need to sell Garnacho or Mainoo this summer.
Its not going to happen but at that fee it surely makes the powers that be question it, if it were to come to fruition.
29 Jan 2025 09:41:32
According to Fav it's €30 mill with €5 mill in not guaranteed add ons. 6ft 1 and supposedly rapidly, with an unreal engine. Will it work out who knows but seems a far more reasonable expenditure than some of our deals in the past. Now it's whether Rash or Garnacho goes as to if anyone else comes in, I think.
22 Jan 2025 10:37:03
If it does happen, we need to be holding out for at least 70 mill, after what we paid for Hoijlund maybe more. Personally I hope it doesn't, as for me he is far down the list of players that add no value to the team. Equally though I understand we need money in to facilitate Amorims team build and unfortunately others aren't seeing value in Rashford.
27 Aug 2024 10:41:44
If Scott and Hannibal go for the figures mentioned we have a net spend of circa £90 million which is a great window for the 5 we brought in, Ugarte medical dependent ?
If we manage to move on Sancho and Eriksen I personally think we will see another addition to the squad.
20 Aug 2024 07:47:52
Sounds like Loan with obligation to buy getting close to being agreed. Not counting my chickens yet!
Hopefully with Hannibal and Pellestri not far from going it may mean we have enough in the pot to go back in for Branthwaite, or a left back?
Philip_hunter2003's banter replies
16 May 2025 09:06:21
I'm obviously a glutton for punishment, or just sadistic. i'm going to the game, firmly in the same camp as what you have said UA, but also deep down knowing I will get all the things you have said not too lol.
29 Apr 2025 21:57:46
That was deepseek and ChatGPT had others in mind. Think both out of date but interesting in some who have been said I hadnt seen linked:
1. Matheus Cunha (Wolves) – £62.5M (release clause)
2. Francisco Trincão (Sporting CP) – £42.5M (midpoint estimate)
3. Gonçalo Inácio (Sporting CP) – £51.5M (release clause)
4. Marcus Edwards (Sporting CP) – £27.5M (estimated)
5. Morten Hjulmand (Sporting CP) – £66.5M (release clause)
6. Jean-Clair Todibo (West Ham) – £26.7M
7. Antoine Semenyo (Bournemouth) – £23.3M
8. Angel Gomes (Lille) – Free (out of contract in 2025)
9. Hayden Hackney (Middlesbrough) – £6.8M
10. Antonee Robinson (Fulham) – £23.7M.
22 Apr 2025 17:12:01
You're welcome buddy, hope it helps a little.
{Ed025's Note - it did for me Philip, the money side confuses me mate..
22 Apr 2025 16:39:22
? 1. Amortization in Football Transfers In football, amortization refers to how a player’s transfer fee is spread over the length of their contract for accounting purposes. Example: Let’s say a club buys a player for £60 million on a 5-year contract. In the accounts, this transfer is amortized at £12 million per year (60 ÷ 5). So even though £60m might be paid upfront or in installments, the books only show £12m in each financial year. This helps clubs manage their books under PSR (more on that in a sec) .
? 2. What is PSR (Profit and Sustainability Rules)? Premier League clubs must follow rules that limit how much they can lose financially over a 3-year period. Currently, the PSR limit is £105 million in allowable losses over 3 years (i. e. £35m per year) . Certain costs are excluded like infrastructure, youth development, women’s football, and community projects. But transfer fees, wages, and agent fees are all included. Clubs must show they’re staying within these rules, or face penalties like points deductions (see Everton or Nottingham Forest) .
? 3. Why Selling Homegrown Players Like Rashford is Powerful This is where it gets juicy. When you sell a homegrown player (someone developed through your youth system, like Rashford), there is no amortized cost—they're essentially recorded in the books as having £0 cost because the club didn't buy them. So if United sell Rashford for £60 million: The entire £60 million counts as immediate profit for PSR purposes. Compare that to buying a player for £60 million on a 5-year deal—it only costs £12 million per year in the accounts. So: Selling Rashford: +£60m profit in Year 1. Buying three players at £60m each: -£36m total amortized cost in Year 1. That’s where your “3x what we can spend” logic comes in. For every £1 of homegrown sale, a club might be able to responsibly spend £3-4 in transfer fees (spread across contracts) and still meet PSR.
{Ed025's Note - good stuff Philip, cheers for that mate..
25 Feb 2025 10:11:08
Free lunches being ended will save £1 million per annum is what is reported. Over a billion paid to Glazers in Dividends/ Payouts.
Mind blowing that we are fixated on the small people whilst that billion would have paid for the free lunches for 1000 years, let that sink in!