13 Jul 2023 19:14:45
Ed002 Do you think Man Utd can sign Onana? Its been dragging for too long and all we hear Inter and Man Utd are talking to each other.

{Ed002's Note - Yes of course. It has not been dragging on too long.}

1.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 19:22:51
Deal nearly agreed by most reliable journos.

2.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 19:34:08
We are such an impatient fanbase, I’d imagine most negotiations take months it’s just we read about it daily so it seems it’s taking forever.

Like the above poster we seen to be closing on the deal relatively soon.

3.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 19:48:28
Hasn't really taken long at all considering, also our dealings so far have seemed reasonably competent.

Not a bad start to the window imo.

4.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 20:21:04
im seeing WHU fans moaning about how long the Rice deal is taking, its a 100 mill deal and if it takes another week who cares seems fast enough to me -same here 3-4 weeks to get the Onana deal done is fine with me that's not bad at all in the modern game.

5.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 20:21:47
I think Murtough is not only trying to get the deals done but also trying to give us some credibility back in the negotiation stages which was ruined by Woodward so probably why deals don’t appear to be sorted as quick as others. But like others said, not been that long.

6.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 20:51:08
Heard today, not sure how reliable this is tho, Atalanta value Rasmus Hoijlund at £85.5m (I think I saw pounds and not euros anyway) . If we pursue that deal this could be a real test if fans patience ?.

7.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 22:47:40
I've posted on the striker issue before. The problem is there are very few strikers available who are either at an elite level already or have the potential to get to that elite level.

At an elite level: Kane, Lautaro Martinez and Osimhen. Although I'd be concerned that the two from Serie A would be able to translate their form in Italy to the EPL. All of theses players would cost a minimum of 80m most likely 100m+.

You then have a few with world class potential, Højlund, Ferguson and Ramos. All these guys will cost between 50-80m.

Beyond that it's signing players a rung down, great players with great potentia, but not world class Ans never likely to be. Players like Jonathan David, Randall Kolo Muani and Ollie Watkins. These guys will likely cost between 30-70m.

So it's obvious that given the number of players we need and the limited cash we have that budget will play a big role in what we can get this summer.

Controversially though I don't think it would be the end of the world if we didn't get a world class or potentially world class signing.

I look at it like this, if we sign a great striker then that guy will 100% be a massive upgrade on Weghorst and Martial. I mean if we signed someone who was merely good they would be an upgrade on last season. The bar was set incredibly low.

While we would always prefer to buy the best available, we need to be realistic this summer and signing someone like Jonathan David for 40m would still represent a massive upgrade up front. Then maybe next summer when we should have more money available and potentially be less stretched in terms of only having to sign a few players rather than 4-6 players.

Not the dream signing obviously, but I'd rather start next season with David up front than Martial.

8.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 23:08:51
Lautaro Martinez elite level ?
Such an overrated striker. The only one who’d take us to becoming contenders is kane.

9.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 23:18:52
I posted a similar thing welsh red did and never got posted. Never worth that money and a donkey deal imo.

10.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 23:20:27
Completely agree about Lautauro Martinez, he’s rubbish. He’s like the Argentinian Morata.
Kane for a quick fix to challenge or Osimhen/ Hojlund for a really good young player with loads of potential to get better.

11.) 13 Jul 2023
13 Jul 2023 23:24:44
shappy,

Martinez is far from elite level. watch the cl final again. elite level strikers show something when it matters and change the game. Kane is the only striker that is elite. Osihmen is maybe there but different league and in a team and players around him that benefits his stats.

12.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 06:22:50
Martinez would be a terrible signing. Don’t rate him in the slightest. I think David would be a waste of money as well, he’s massively limited and technically not good enough.

From the bits I’ve seen I’d go for Ramos based on the fact that his style of play is very Kane esq. No idea what sort of money they’d want for him though. The Kane and Osimhen deals are non starters due to the fees likely to be involved.

That said, the manager seems sold on Hojlund so we must trust the process. I’m really happy that we are focusing on potential. I said all along that Kane was too old with no value and we needed to target the next Harry Kane. Which it seems we are now doing.

13.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 07:38:55
If we’re buying Harry Kane it’s not for his resale value. It’s for the 30 PL goals he’ll score.

I also like the idea of having Rashford, Mount and Kane. Having some of the best English players brings a bit of identity back to the club.

Kane’s injury record is a bit of a myth too. He’s made 306 PL appearances in the past 9 seasons. That’s 34 PL appearances per season on averages, so that myth should be put firmly to bed.

Besides Kane I think Ramos would be my next choice. To me he’s currently better the Hojlund and Kolo Muani.

But the manager knows best and has proved he should be backed with the players he wants, so if it’s Hojlund then I’m sure it’s the right choice for the system.

{Ed077's Note - the price and overall cost of the transfer also pays a -role in deciding who we should go for if you ask me. For instance, if we are going to spend around 80-100m on a ST then I'd prefer that player to be Kane. But if its an outlay closer to the 50m mark then I'd be happy with Hojlund or Kolo Muani.

14.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 08:00:13
Absolutely 77. It seems we are shopping in the second tier at the moment with the players we’re discussing.

We know Kane guarantees goals and he’s the money-no-object choice. In years gone by, I think we’d be right in the middle of a summer-long saga.
Ramos would probably cost a similar amount but is a huge risk compared to Kane.

Then Hojlund or KM will likely cost half of the other two.

I have to say that things seem to have improved a little bit on the negotiation front. We have a big signing wrapped up already, and we don’t appear to be bending over backwards to demands like we used to.

15.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 08:34:54
Mitrovic would be my choice for a decent fee.

{Ed077's Note - apparently Fulham turned down a 25m pound bid for him from the Saudi's. I would happily take him around that price, specially if we can also get a younger player to bed in like a Hojlund.}

16.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 04:36:00
Thank you Ed002 as always for an answer. Have a good day.

17.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 11:05:26
TBH if Spurs are considering an offer for Kane, we should be bidding for him. It’s likely they would be reluctant to sell to an EPL team, but I suspect that Kane would prefer to stay in England to break Shearer’s record.

Even 3 good seasons would be worth it for a top class striker. Especially given the alternatives.

18.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 11:16:26
I really like the look of Hojlund and i agree with FiremanC i can see a lot of Harry Kane in him the way he plays.
He has everything, fast, strong, great at holding up the ball and bringing players in to play. I think playing at United with the likes of Bruno, Mount, Rashford etc will only make him a better player and he will certainly get more scoring opportunities and he's only 20.
Hoijlund is my pick.

19.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 11:25:31
The pressure on Hojlund after several months of growing hype is going to be immense. Good prospect for sure, and he'll improve quickly, but he's scored 9 goals in a lesser league. He's not going to come in and tear it up like the other Scandinavian did. We still need a more experienced player to take the burden.

20.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 11:47:04
Agree Spenno but look at the quality of players around him in that Atalanta team. He's going to be getting much more scoring opportunities playing at United playing with better players.
I just have a really good feeling about him, i think he would slot right in to our way of playing.
On the Haaland comparison. I have no idea why people keep comparing him to Haaland. He is a completely different kind of player.

21.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 12:55:35
Sim, in this thread alone he's already been compared to Kane and Haaland. He's got no chance lol.

22.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 13:19:02
LOL i know Spenno, a lot to live up to.
I can see Atalanta pricing him out of the move.
Reports say that he wants the move to United as well.

23.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 13:34:17
If you want us to challenge for the title next year and potentially win the UCL, then it has to be Kane.

I'd bin CB, RB and DM to bring in Kane.

24.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 14:20:33
Sydney - i think if Kane was obtainable we would be in for him.
Levy would never sell to another premier league team.

25.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 16:29:15
Who says we are not in for him Simmo?

Much will always depend on outgoings, that was always the case. Whether he became available was also the other factor. If they are speaking to Bayern, then he is available for the right price.

Also if Højland is priced out of a move, rumours that Atalanta want £85m, then why not just pay up for Kane? I don't see us looking at the others.

26.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 16:42:52
I think kanes out of our price range . I can see him going bayern and spurs getting a few of their players on the cheap.

27.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 18:58:04
Only without player sales and if EtH insists on a new CB, RB and DM is Kane out of our price range.

If we sold Elanga, Fred, Telles, McTominay and Henderson, Kane and a new CB would be possible.

28.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 17:18:45
dannyC - You are correct, Without player sales and if we want to buy each and every problem position to fill then Kane is indeed out of our price range. However if we sell Fred, Telles, McTominay, Henderson etc, and we don't bother buying a CB or a RB, then Kane is easily affordable.

29.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 20:08:25
If Tem Hag and co think Hojland is going to develop into a top Striker who will grow into a player who can help fire us to EpL and ECL titles then they should make a move.

I love Kane as a player, but i am not cpnvinced he will be at his peak when we are ready to challenege.

Unlike some i don't feel we are a striker away from comoeting for these. I think we are at least ten away between squad and starters. I think that Kane may be a very expensive mistake given the long term goal. I still thi k we are tgree season away from genuine contention assuming the summer wi dows all go well.

30.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 20:56:56
Sydney I'd love kane to come and I agree with what you said. Just can't see it happening mainly because of levy. I think kane wants to stay in England and break the record, but if he can't stay then he can win some trophies at bayern.

31.) 14 Jul 2023
14 Jul 2023 23:55:22
Oakbark - Sign Kane and we will be ready to challenge. He's literally the missing part of our jigsaw. That's what makes me think we will go for him.

I guess we will know soon enough guys.

32.) 15 Jul 2023
15 Jul 2023 09:09:04
Kane would in terms of fit for the style of play and the quality needed be the best fit for the next 2-3 years. He would require us to also sign a Højlund or a Ferguson at some point soon as well (which would be another 50-70m investment) .

However, he alone doesn't take us to title challengers.

We will still need a top level keeper who is capable of playing the correct style of play to the right standard.

We also need quality cover for Casemiro who is another year older and who we missed massively when he wasn't in the team last season.

If we don't sign a keeper and a CDM alongside a striker then we won't even be close to challenging regardless of who that striker is.

We would still be lacking in quality cover in depth in defence at both CB and RB, as well as a quality back up keeper. While we would still need several younger players to step up in attack with players like Antony, Sancho, Garnacho and Diallo being the main options to Rashford who comfortably scored double what the rest managed combined. Which means we could still be an injury to Rashford away from also seeing a drop off in form.

To seriously challenge City you need to match their squad quality or they will eventually just grind you out. The only exception was the year Liverpool won it, but that was a combination of all their players peaking at the same time and them having practically no injuries to their first 11 all season. Kind of a the stars aligned sort of stuff that you can't normally rely on.

33.) 15 Jul 2023
15 Jul 2023 12:59:26
Shappy - Obviously Onana is done. I'm talking about not bothering with a CB or RB this window and sign just Kane, Unless Maguire or AWB is sold of course. If McTominay or Fred leave, then we will likely sign someone like Amrabat.

But For me Kane is enough to stay in the title race next season until the end. Obviously if players leave, we need to replace them.

34.) 15 Jul 2023
15 Jul 2023 14:44:42
Syd, Onana isn't a done until he's holding aloft the shirt and the deal is ratified with the league.

I think the only way we can sign Kane this summer is in the closing days of the window if the takeover has been completed and the new owners want to make a statement signing.

I don't see where we will get the funds otherwise. You know Levy will want a massive fee and the majority of it paid up front. We just don't have the cash reserves for it, nor can we bring in that sort of money through sales as very few clubs will pay fees for our players all up front.

So while we might be able to sell 100m worth of players, which looks great on the accounts. Very little of that money will be in our account to purchase Kane for 100m+.

35.) 15 Jul 2023
15 Jul 2023 15:28:59
Onana is done.

36.) 16 Jul 2023
16 Jul 2023 08:05:18
If kane is available united will be in for him .
There is obviously plans for a striker and that's after we have spent money on other positions.

37.) 16 Jul 2023
16 Jul 2023 08:20:54
Shappy, Syd and jred on one post! It's like the good old days ?.

38.) 16 Jul 2023
16 Jul 2023 22:55:17
The band's back together ?.

39.) 17 Jul 2023
17 Jul 2023 20:56:28
Full House Shappy, Deano

Striker is essential with a CDM and CB not far behind.