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13 Jan 2022 14:57:56
Put your money on dean Henderson leaving this January. Not on a loan either.

Rosspique

1.) 13 Jan 2022 18:40:06
How much money and will you cover any losses if Henderson ends up staying?


2.) 13 Jan 2022 19:49:12
I can't see a permanent deal in this window. Maybe a loan to a non-rival at best.


3.) 14 Jan 2022 07:52:32
Dean Henderson should be number 1. This transition should have occurred 12 months ago.

If Dean moves on it further portrays the calamity actor that is MU from both a footballing and commercial proposition.

Things need to keep moving. The train should continue to clock up kilometres.


4.) 14 Jan 2022 08:46:33
DDG has been our best player by a country mile this season. Don’t get the Henderson love in. He did ceded soft goals and hardly inspires confidence. He can kick better and that’s about it.


5.) 14 Jan 2022 09:52:41
Eric you are correct, DDG has had a decent season - no doubt. But can you say that for the last few?

DDG is on a monster contract and the reality is the peak of his powers is likely behind him.

There is a young homegrown player with bags of potential knocking at the door - DH is not going to be DDG’s underling for much longer.

The commerciality of DDG’s deal at MU can no longer be justified when there is an alternative solution emerging.

Do not hold onto legacy employees at the expense of closing the path on the future route.

The churn is imminent at some point and the club must always evolve. It should always be about the club.


6.) 14 Jan 2022 11:18:35
DDG contract expires 2023. If he co tinges with his form, I'd imagine the club will want to extend his contract. If they do, I hope they offer him reduced terms as this has been his best season since he signed tha that new contract.


7.) 14 Jan 2022 12:03:40
MH that in itself is the problem, a potential contract at reduced terms for one good season out of a handful.

MU must be more cut throat, move players on at the right time - like Chelsea for example. This has been the undoing of MU for years.

The club must be more agile and constantly adapting whilst looking to the future.

The ability to revert appropriately as opposed to react instinctively is what has brought a great sporting institution into mediocrity over the past decade - yes decade….


8.) 14 Jan 2022 12:25:55
To be honest I feel that the club should sell DDG this summer with a year left on his deal. Recoup some money and reinvest.

We would need to buy a new keeper to fight it out with Henderson for the No.1 spot.

DDG has been in good form this season, bit has been poor for 3 years prior.

While his shot stopping has been good this season has his communication, organisation, contesting aerial duels, coming off his line or distribution improved to anything above average? No.

Time to move on, especially if we want to move to a more modern style where the keeper plays out from the back or acts as a sweeper.


9.) 14 Jan 2022 13:36:51
Shappy you are on narcotics if you think MU are seeking ‘a move to keepers playing from the back and/ or sweeping’.

MU are a million miles off this - there is no identity, there hasn’t been one for years.

Since 2013 the team has just been crying out to get back to basics. Don’t worry about sweeper keepers, clear lines and organise players to do their jobs - none of this fancy footwork.

MU for years now require investment in characters, grinders and grafters. Stop procuring Pogba’s, Sancho’s and AWB etc. Invest in culture - invest the basics.


10.) 14 Jan 2022 16:27:41
MAZE, since you've been away it appears you've forgotten how to read. I said:

"Time to move on, especially IF we want to move to a more modern style where the keeper plays out from the back or acts as a sweeper. "

IF, as in implying that there is no certainty that the club actually wants to do that.


11.) 14 Jan 2022 16:39:55
Henderson isn't even the best English keeper around at the moment so he certainly shouldn't be no1 over DDG.


12.) 14 Jan 2022 18:25:22
Henderson had a brief spell under Ole and just like VdB, Martial, Bailley et al didn't stand out at all when given his chance. He was in by default due to DDG's very dodgy form at the time.

But now Dave the Save is back, he is light years ahead of anything I saw from Henderson. He may be much younger and the better long-term option, and deserve to be starting somewhere, but the club needs whatever world-class players in form it can find atm and DDG is one of those.

It's a case of reluctantly letting him go and getting a few more years out of the Save for me. Who knows who else will be around by then to succeed him. Maybe Henderson himself.


13.) 14 Jan 2022 22:18:38
Henderson looks wobbly to me, I’d be very nervous having him as No1.


14.) 14 Jan 2022 22:47:16
Reminds me of when we brought in Ben Foster. Good - just not good enough.


15.) 15 Jan 2022 00:00:51
There's an argument to make that United's problems start with having a goalkeeper who does not act as an auxiliary sweeper. He may be a great shot stopper but his reluctance to come off his line makes the pressing game harder to effect and puts more pressure on the defenders in front of him. The closest Villa came to scoring on Monday was when de Gea backpedaled after Lindelof made a weakish pass back. Moist modern goalkeepers would have been further advanced and far more decisive. The ball would have been cleared. De Gea is flat-footed in this respect, rather like Rashford was at the other end when he failed to make any move to pounce up the rebound.


16.) 15 Jan 2022 16:18:23
Henderson isn’t as good as DeGea now and never will be, he is a decent gk but is way off being one of the top keepers. He is a good back up but he won’t be happy with that and so he needs to move on.


17.) 15 Jan 2022 21:39:59
Heaton is better than henderson.

End of debate let him leave keepers are easy to replace

Like above he is dodgy.


18.) 15 Jan 2022 23:52:24
Bolger, what are you on about Keepers being easy to replace. I can only assume you are too young to remember taking nearly a decade to replace Schmeichel.

Van Der Gouw, Barthez, Ricardo, Bosnich, Howard, Carroll, Foster.

All tried before VDS came in.

While Henderson may or may not be the answer let's not pretend that keepers are easy to replace.


19.) 16 Jan 2022 00:20:03
Henderson might be knocking on the door but De Gea isn’t opening it, I’m not even sure Henderson is at the right house.


20.) 16 Jan 2022 16:18:05
Think you'll find van der gouw was never touted as a replacement for schmeichel, he was an understudy.


21.) 17 Jan 2022 08:22:02
no shappy i remember, i even remember that Massimo Taibi


we tried to get vds years before but failed.

keepers are not that hard to replace anymore, there are plenty of keepers out there, young keepers aswell that are better than henderson,

Unai Simón
Justin Bijlow
Illan Meslierhe
Florian Müller

even nick pope is better than hendseron i could go on shappy

henderson is so overated, if he was really that good do you think he wouldn't have taken the spot already romero was better and he deserved to be number 1, de gea other than this season has been poor for 3 years.

england have a poor pickford and he still couldn't get infront of him.

henderson is overated end of discussion. let him leave it won't be hard to replace him.


22.) 17 Jan 2022 10:20:14
Bolger, I think Henderson will suprise a few when he leaves. Spurs are interested as a replacement for Lloris, while Chelsea have had an interest in the past, not sure if they would still be. I'd expect it would depend on them finding a buyer for Kepa.


 

 

31 Jan 2020 11:02:26
Appears as if josh King is on. If I were bournemouth I would be majorly annoyed with the timing and also why is this left until deadline day by us.
I now understand what Ed002 means by amateur. (board and transfer process)

Rosspique

1.) 31 Jan 2020 11:12:19
bournemouth won't sell without getting someone in. ain't happening.


2.) 31 Jan 2020 12:57:41
I was listening to Neil Warnock on Talksport this morning and he said you want to get your signings in early, but it always seems to take till the end of the window to sort out, with clubs thinking they can get a better deal, players not being available and players suddenly becoming available. It's not just us that act this way.


3.) 01 Feb 2020 12:06:57
Bournemouth would do exactly the same if they had to.


 

 

24 Jan 2020 15:33:58
Hi Ed,

Any truth in the rumour we've bid for dries mertens

Thanks in advance.

Rosspique

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of a bid}


1.) 24 Jan 2020 17:49:33
Thanks Ed, would love him but won't hold my breath, have yourself a great weekend.


2.) 24 Jan 2020 19:50:11
Rumours circulated that on the 58th minute against Wolves there is a so called planned walkout. What will that achieve, Tickets, beer, food and merchandise has all been purchased, so the yanks still get revenue. Is going to persuade them to sack Ole or Woodward, no I doubt it. Face the facts it's our time to be bottom feeders, city have been through it, liverpool fell down the packer order, now it's our turn I'm afraid, It will be 5 years before we come close to being the top club in England again. A walk out won't change a thing.


3.) 24 Jan 2020 20:53:10
Sorry again Ed but what about boubakary Soumare. Can you confirm whether we have submitted a bid for him or not.

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}


4.) 24 Jan 2020 22:01:31
Jose asking journalists about bruno and smirking again today got a feeling he knows something we dont.
Selling eriksen trying to sell rose and portugese press saying bruno played last game got a bad feeling about this.


5.) 25 Jan 2020 08:58:37
Levy has a new stadium to pay for.
Doubt the Rose or Erikson deals would bring in that much return
Think jose is just indicating how in adequate we are at the minute regarding transfers.
I could be totally wrong of course, But I feel Levy is more of a tight wad than what Woodward is.


6.) 25 Jan 2020 15:06:24
Rock the red 5 years try adding another 5 on top of that.


7.) 26 Jan 2020 21:53:59
Be real lads more like 30 years.


 

 

07 Jul 2019 12:41:35
Hi ed002 hope you're well.
Can I ask in your opinion how many players do you think we are still going to sign and in what position.

Thanks as always.

Rosspique

{Ed002's Note - RB, CB, CM, CM/AM, RW/F needed plus possibly a GK and probably a Striker.}


1.) 07 Jul 2019 12:55:32
Not much then.

{Ed002's Note - It would be an easy way to spend about £400M or so.}


2.) 07 Jul 2019 13:11:10
Ed, is that another RB in spite of AWB signing?

{Ed002's Note - No.}


3.) 07 Jul 2019 13:11:47
Ed002, forgetting who the club has been linked with, or who the club might sign. Who would have been your ideal picks for United to sign for those positions?

{Ed002's Note - Wan-Bissaka; Ruban Dias; Hamed Traorè; Kai Havertz; Federico Chiesa; Jan Oblak; Robert Lewandowski (for one year)}


4.) 07 Jul 2019 13:28:14
Chiesa would be ace from what I've seen.


5.) 07 Jul 2019 13:50:47
Wow, some great choices in there. Sure you don't want a job at United?


6.) 07 Jul 2019 15:47:08
Ed002 for Technical Director. Anyone? 😊.


7.) 07 Jul 2019 16:16:28
Has there been any change with Dias? Is he any closer to leaving and where to?

ED02 has my vote for TD and we know the appeal of living in Manchester is not for you so you are more than welcome to work out of the London Office. :)

{Ed002's Note - Ruben Dias (CB) Benfica think that he will be difficult to hold on to but his termination clause has increased which will fend off most interested clubs. But that may not put off Atletico Madrid who remain very keen and can afford him. And it may not put off Real Madrid who have identified him as one of the two players they want in the summer of 2020 - and that has been discussed between the sides when recently finalising the transfer of another player - could suit everyone.}


8.) 07 Jul 2019 20:31:36
Superb info ed, thank you.


9.) 08 Jul 2019 05:45:39
Lewandowski would be a dream signing.


10.) 08 Jul 2019 20:58:53
Thanks as always Ed002, gent as always, if that's your pronoun 😂.


 

 

01 May 2019 12:39:45
HI Ed002, if you have a sec.

Do we still hold interest in Nikola Moro.

I know there was talk before he suffered Cruciate injury.

Thanks.

Rosspique

{Ed002's Note - No, there is no interested in Nikola Moro.}


1.) 01 May 2019 23:33:39
Cheers Ed. Have a nice day.


2.) 02 May 2019 08:27:11
Hi ED.

Is anyone.................

{Ed002's Note - WRONG PAGE.}


 

 

 

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25 Oct 2021 00:56:18
Bring back Moyes?

Rosspique

1.) 25 Oct 2021 01:43:41
Hell No.


2.) 25 Oct 2021 01:53:19
I would rather have Rooney than go anywhere near Moyes again.

Lets just call this season a write off and go for ten Hag at the end of the season.


3.) 25 Oct 2021 10:02:56
Are you still ole out rosspique?


4.) 25 Oct 2021 13:50:12
Joke about moysey. Although maybe if we had been patient there it would have saved a lot of time and disappointment.
Ken, am I Ole out. Hmm I never was but the start of this season has been disgraceful and it's impossible to defend Ole.
When Ole came in he said he wanted us to be the fittest team in the league, we are clearly nowhere near. The patterns of play aren't developing as they should. I was willing to overlook this as he was accomodating 3 new players and it was the start of the season but in the last 5 games I've watched from villa onwards all hell has broken loose.
Whatever about Ole and whether I still believe in him or not it's clear that the coaching is not of the standard required and Ole has to take the heat for that.
I think souness was right yesterday, if Ole is to stay he needs world class coaches alongside him.
However I do feel it is too late.

I was always Ole in and I'll support him till he goes. My line in the sand was not getting out of champions League group again, that's the earliest I would have been calling for Ole to have gotten the sack but our performances in the league are just as concerning.


 

 

16 Oct 2021 17:13:40
Wow ok if carlsberg did time machines. I'm sorry Ole even I can't defend this. Ronaldo signing and having to play to suit him has killed you.
Neville and scholes said it the other night, there are not enough ji sung parks or Darren fletchers. Out of the front 6 today only Bruno is a grafter/ workhorse. The best individuals don't make the best teams.
Oles damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in a way with Ronaldo. He has to start him and can't take him off yet he doesn't press or offer anything to the team in a defensive capacity and is not the Ronaldo of old that can take on and race past players.
I said I'd support the manager till the end and I will, as I will every manager, yet Ole my friend, the end looks nigh.
Ronaldo had to be signed, he could not go to city but I think Ole signed his own death warrant when he signed.
To the Ole out brigade, sorry, it looks like you were right which makes me sad cause I desperately wanted Ole to succeed because it rely felt for the last 2 years that we were building something. I feel we've gone backwards this season and that's just not acceptable.
I would have judged Ole at the end of this season but it looks like we can no longer afford to wait.

On another note I have to say I've been so disappointed in Sancho since he came in, when compared to a young Ronaldo, Jadon very rarely takes on a man and always looks for the simple option, Ronaldo at 18, took on everyone all the time. Looks like we've signed 2 half Ronaldos. I know he's young and acclimatising to a league he's never played in but I've seen very very little to excite me thus far.

We cannot play Ronaldo, Bruno, Sancho, pogba and mason in the same team unfortunately, there's no graft there and we can't rely on Matic to cover for them all thus McFred.

Rosspique

1.) 16 Oct 2021 17:25:47
Reading back on my post, looks like I'm blaming Ronaldo for Oles deficiencies, I do see the issues with in game management and patterns of play and maybe now even man management.

I do think that Ronaldo forces us to play a particular way though and it's this that has seen us regress.

But as I said he had to be signed.


2.) 16 Oct 2021 17:28:19
Sancho just implementing the coaches tactics. Nothing to do with acclimating. He’s familiar with many of the squad. Lived in Manchester. Nothing else but Ole ruining another signing.


3.) 16 Oct 2021 17:30:00
Fair play Rossi mate. I had never had problem with people accepting they were wrong.


4.) 16 Oct 2021 17:38:13
The problem is all those players you listed
drift all over the pitch, we get exposed when we lose the ball with huge gaps. There is no structure to our shape sometimes I’m not sure what our formation is.
I’ve always defended Ole and yea he’s brought some stability back but we keep relying on individual moments rather than a team performance.


5.) 16 Oct 2021 17:48:17
Couldn't disagree more that there is no graft in Bruno Fernandes. He demands from his team mates and you often see him as last man back trying to defend.

However, the rest I mostly agree with. Ronaldo was a luxury signing but was never one we should turn down, Sancho signed only to never play him on the right seems very strange (he will be better under a new manager), Greenwood is excellent but greedy at times and is still young and Pogba is what he is.

As you said in your 2nd post, Ole has issues, many of them. While he is in charge we will see players out of form or looking lost because they are simply carrying out the instructions of a coach who is well out of his depth in his role both in game and on the training pitch by the looks of it and who is mismatched against most coaches he is opposing.

Atalanta are a good side and we are in for a difficult evening in midweek, we then have Liverpool who look like they will beat us by a few. It's likely not going to be am enjoyable few weeks.


6.) 16 Oct 2021 17:49:32
Mistakes happen in games, like the total lapse with Maguire for their opening goal. But the way we play is simply down to the non existent tactics and coaching. Ronaldo's signing has nothing to do with how we play. Because we've been playing the same way for the past 2 years. If we had a coach who knew what he was doing, he would have found a way to solve this conundrum. Unfortunately Ole just ain't that guy and will never be that guy.


7.) 16 Oct 2021 17:51:52
Play to ronaldos strenths its simple and he will bamg in goals

But we don't have a manaher or coaches that know how to set a team up.


8.) 16 Oct 2021 18:28:14
Ross, glad you've seen the defences in Solskjaer, great player, rubbish manager. However, I disagree fully on Ronaldo, as love_United correctly says, we've been playing like this for two years.
We are lucky to have Ronaldo at our club, he scores goals, we've not signed him to track back
But the manager does not play pressing football and we're seeing the results of that, we concede possession easily and we don't work hard high up the field to reclaim it. He plays counter attacking tactics straight out of the 80's.
And his coaches are as useless as he is. Great players don't automatically become great managers, otherwise, Keane, Robson, Hughes etc would have succeeded, but they didn't.
The club need to move away from the old brigade, get a young coach in like Ten Haag, Marco Rose in and let them define a modern pattern of play and stick to it. Hans Flick would have been the best choice, but he's not an option now.


9.) 16 Oct 2021 18:29:21
Rosspique. I disagree that Ronaldo had to be signed. United should have learnt that lesson from the Alexi Sanchez debacle. The only players that need to be signed are the ones that fit into the strategic plan. Unfortunately, at United, there is no strategic plan, and there really hasn't been since before SAF retired.

Hard to see us pulling ourselves out of the quagmaguire any time soon.


10.) 16 Oct 2021 18:59:52
shawthing, the players are the least of the problem right now.

It's crystal clear Ole and his coaching staff are the main issue.


 

 

05 Oct 2021 17:54:08
Ole's at the wheel,
Tell me how does it feel,
We've got Sancho, Paul Pogba and Fred,
Marcus Rashford, a Manc born and bred.
Duh du, du du du du du!
Duh du, du du du du du!

In Ole I trust. Believe!


Don't post here often anymore cause this site has become the definition of toxic, it's not the site though, just the people, like the same people on Twitter or whatever social network you want to sub in here. Remember when our mothers used to say if you've nothing nice to say then don't say it at all.

Anyways I'm going to post the above support for our manager every day until Ole gets the sack. I hope and believe I'll be doing this for a lot longer than most of you seem to.
I won't try to change anyones minds about Ole, you're quite entitled to your opinions but you won't change mine either.

In Ole I still trust. Believe!

Rosspique

1.) 05 Oct 2021 18:20:56
Good man Ross. I admire you for having the courage of your convictions. Stand up for what you believe in and don't sit on the fence or play both sides of the coin.
If you believe ole is the man then fine.
If you think he is not then there are no circumstances that he should remain imo.
We differ in our opinion but at least you are as clear with yours as i am with mine and you don't try to deflect.
Respect for that. Fair play fella.

{Ed025's Note - thats what its all about ken..


2.) 05 Oct 2021 18:32:17
Twitter is a horrific place when it comes to football these days.

Rossi I hope to see ole win and succeed, but I’ll still support him whilst he’s in the job because if he does well then that means my football club is winning. At the end of the day that’s all we want to see.


3.) 05 Oct 2021 18:42:04
Of course it is ed025 I've never been a fence sitter either stand by your man or not there is no room for anything else imo.
Personally I've zero respect for ole as a manager I don't think he has 1 redeeming feature or attribute and can't think of 1 reason he should stay. It's not looking great for getting him out just now but I long for the day and I'll look forward to him losing the dressing room and hope we see the ole out chants as soon as possible. The sooner the better but if it takes longer than I want the day will be all the sweeter when it happens.


4.) 05 Oct 2021 19:01:15
Now the challenge is to think of new words to at least keep smiling

Ole gives us an ordeal,
How bad it is unreal,
We've got Sancho, Paul Pogba and Fred,
Yet his midfield may as well be dead,
Duh du, du du du du du!
Duh du, du du du du du!


Ole’s tactics in reveal
How bad it is surreal,
We’ve got Sancho, Paul Pogba and Fred
Yet Ole’s lost his street cred.

Duh du. Etc

Over to you all.


5.) 05 Oct 2021 19:02:06
I don’t think it’s sitting on the fence to see things with a balanced opinion. The truth is always somewhere in the middle, it’s great that you support the manager Ross, so do I, I’d love him to be successful, he’s a good man and it would be amazing if he could get the best out of these players, he has done some good but at the moment he looks like he knows himself he’s a little out of his depth and the team just isn’t performing at a level many of us think they should.

If they sacked him today I wouldn’t be too bothered but I’ll support him while he is here and continue to sing his name like yourself, I think by the end of November we will know what this season brings, a good run of form now and things might look a lot better by then, a bad run of form and I think he will be gone. Let’s hope it’s the former and we are in a strong position in the league and into the knockouts.


6.) 05 Oct 2021 19:26:34
Duh du, du du du du du!
Duh du, du du du du du!
DUNCE.


7.) 05 Oct 2021 19:47:07
Ken and Red Man… stick to the day job lads ?.


8.) 05 Oct 2021 20:45:20
I think if you are a fan and you still want Ole at the helm you are doing so for selfish reasons and to hopefully say "I told you so" when there is no evidence to show he's capable of it.

You're happy for our club to be left behind by our rivals all because you want to keep rolling the dice on a manager who has choked at every opportunity to bring us silverware.

There is nothing that man has done that shows he is capable of winning major silverware. If you back Ole, you're backing against Manchester United.


9.) 05 Oct 2021 21:05:03
lol Redman :)


10.) 05 Oct 2021 21:44:05
Mumbles, your reply demonstrates the issue in here right now. You are judging people who have a different opinion to you and very directly telling them they are wrong.

I think Ole needs to be replaced but I’m happy to respect other views, I have no idea if I am actually right.

This is a banter site, we seem to have forgotten that lately in the emotion of a bad run.


11.) 05 Oct 2021 21:59:20
I started my post with "I think" AJH. That demonstrates my thoughts on the subject which are laid out above. That is in fact "my opinion"


12.) 05 Oct 2021 22:40:30
I don’t think any united fans are happy for the team to be left behind by their rivals though, why would that be the case?

Perhaps they just see things differently, they can have a different opinion without being selfish and wanting the club to fail can’t they?


13.) 05 Oct 2021 23:29:08
GDS2, I constantly see the Ole fans start their posts with "I don't think Ole can win us the league BUT" "he might not be the best manager BUT". You don't have to go down the pages too far to find examples of this.

Ole is a poor coach. He won't become a good coach all of a sudden. If the posters points are "We tried the best now try the rest" and worrying if the next manager will fail, they're picking the current manager over the club.

I have yet to see anyone say "these are the qualities the manager possesses and this is how he will take us to a league title"

Singing Oles at the wheel won't make Ole a good manager because if it Did, he'd have won at least 1 trophy.

I think if you want Ole to continue as manager, then you don't have the clubs best interests at heart because he won't win us the league.


14.) 06 Oct 2021 00:54:19
I think the people who want him to continue as manager do think he will win us the league though. People are saying he’s not the right man but they don’t see the owners sacking him any time soon, I don’t think I’ve seen a post saying he’s not the right man and will never win us the title but let’s keep him forever and never win anything.


15.) 06 Oct 2021 01:01:29
Mumbles is right and Rosspique is wrong.

Sometimes its so bloody obvious its just a fact not an opinion.


16.) 06 Oct 2021 00:32:23
I think he will mumbles. I think title winning comes from stability and building a squad and a team. I see improvement, and no matter how many people tell me EVERYONE sees what he is doing wrong, I agree with a lot of what he is doing. I see a pattern of play - I see players improving. I disagree with the great SAF, I like that we went with he starting line up against Everton and also felt they played well for first half. (Not just 10 mins)

I actually like Ole laying down a marker with Ronny. He might be capable of playing every game, but he won't be as sharp and effective as we need him to be. Also cavani is beast, give ronny the extra push worh competition.

Any manager can be undermined if everyone chooses to. I prefer to support and get behind the current set up until the wheels have completely come off. New season, let's go. If we are out of everything, then let's talk change. Until then, I think fixes come from working hard and staying together, not scratching and starting over.

And finally, I agree with you (! ) If you don't think he can win a league title, why carry on with him?


17.) 06 Oct 2021 02:48:27
No manc man, they are all just opinions.


18.) 06 Oct 2021 05:23:36
All this support for Ole seems to based purely on emotions/ sentiments for the guy rather than him being a good manager.

Hands on heart and ask yourselves "Is Ole qualified for the job? ". If the answer to that is "No" then it's as simple as that, unless you got excuses piled up to defend him.

DB, we got a pattern of play? OMG, now our opposition are worried.

People are probably undermining the power of Sir Alex and Ronny and even going as far as disagreeing with them just to defend Ole.

Tell you what if Ronny starts to influence that dressing room with his words/ actions then Ole would be in big trouble. And if Sir Alex gets into that picture supporting Ronny then it's the end for Ole.

Ronny has already lay down a marker by re-signing for the club.


19.) 06 Oct 2021 06:39:38
SAF will not go against Ronaldo just to please the substitute. Ronaldo will influence the dressing room with Bruno taking his side too. We will have 2 sides then, one with Ole, Fred, Martial, AwB and the ass-is-tants. The other side with Ronaldo.


20.) 06 Oct 2021 07:14:25
By the way, Rosspique seems to have taken an inspiration from Blackpink's "Ddu-Du Ddu-Du" song.


21.) 06 Oct 2021 07:42:31
I do hope you're right Dodgy.


22.) 06 Oct 2021 08:30:44
Ok Dodgey, tell us all about the style of play that you are seeing and which players are improving and how. Because I'd love to know.

Relying on individual brilliance doesn't count as a style of play.


23.) 06 Oct 2021 09:30:00
I love the way some people on this thread think it would be a good idea for Fergie or Ronaldo to interfere with choice of coaching staff or team matters etc.

Imagine if, during Fergie's early years when he was struggling and people wanted him out, that Sir Matt and Bryan Robson started dictating to him who his coaching staff should be or what his team selection should be .

Solskjaer is the manager, either back him and let him do his job without interference or sack him if you think he's not up to it, there's no in between .


24.) 06 Oct 2021 09:34:35
If its the same on twitter, same on facebook, the same here and everywhere its probably the majority opinion. Probably the right opinion. Think about it.


25.) 06 Oct 2021 12:59:23
Agree bilko.
No during on the fence.
This crap of I know he is not the right man but I'll sort him anyway is nonsense and it's emotional claptrap.
One poster said here yesterday I support him but I'm not bothered if he is fired. I can't subscribe to that. Your in or your out no inbetween.


26.) 06 Oct 2021 12:33:27
United Addict, that's an interesting and quite telling view on opinions.

Are there such a thing as a "right" opinion? or are you just looking for people with likeminded opinions?

Surely everyone thinks their opinion is right, no one would have an opinion they fully know is wrong. That would be insanity.

An opinion is merely a subjective view based on the information that a person has available to them.

I also find it odd when people consider a change of opinion to be weak minded, when in fact changing your opinion due to new information is often just common sense.

If I said pick red or blue, you'd make your decision based off of the information in front of you.

Lets say you picked blue.

Now if I said Red is you get £10k tax free, and blue is you lose a limb.

Would that make you weak minded to change your choice/ opinion? Of course not.

Also social media is a terrible place to gather a general consensus from, the level of anonymity and physical space between the comment and the audience enables people to act in a way they just simply wouldn't face to face. Case in point are we to extrapolate that the country is racist based on the number of racist comments footballers receive online?

Of course not, but sadly the negative voices are often the loudest. I'd expect you'd be far more likely to write a review online if you had a poor experience than if you had a good one.

We expect good service so when we get it we don't feel the need to tell anyone. Conversely when we feel we have received poor service we feel put out and are far more likely to say/ write a poor review.

So if 3 out of 100 people feel they have had poor service and write a review but only 7 of those 93 people who are satisfied write a good review then you could look at the 10 reviews and surmise that 30% of people had a bad experience, when in reality it was just 3%.

That's how its easy to go online and read the opinions and feel that the majority are unhappy, when its just that they are more compelled to express themselves.


27.) 06 Oct 2021 14:14:17
Shappy, you and a few others do come here and tell us the positives don't you? So i am inclined to believe its the same on other forums too. Although, i do think that opinions aren't right or wrong and i should have worded that better. What i mean is that the majority is now turning against Ole. You can tell when posters here start turning too. Yes its a small sample size but that's how a survey is done.

Negative voices are loudest and i am hoping these voices are heard and acted upon swiftly before the superstars start a mutiny in the dressing room.


28.) 06 Oct 2021 14:56:16
Anybody who looks to twitter or Facebook for the right opinion needs their head examined.


29.) 06 Oct 2021 22:01:20
UA, that's kind of my point myself and a few others come on here and state the positives. And we tend to get hounded for doing so. Yet we plug on.

The reality is that for every one of us that states the positives there are probably another 100 or so who think the same way but don't want to put their head above the parapet for fear of having it blown off.

Yet there are probably few other negative people on here not posting.

It makes it impossible to accurately gauge public opinion. I tend to go with the fans in the stadium. If the fans in the stadium who have paid good money to be there cheer and sing the songs then they are probably happy enough. When they start booing and chanting for change then you can probably say the majority feel that way.


 

 

04 Oct 2021 16:15:42
I suppose at least if a lot of people get their wish and Ole is sacked then there will be so many managers to choose from given Bayern, real Madrid, Barcelona, psg and Ajax all lost this weekend.

Ole might have work though getting that PE teacher job you all think he's just about qualified for given that Pochettino's PSG with Messi, neymar and mbappe failed to get a single shot on target in their defeat to the mighty Rennes of the famous french farmers league.

The way some of you speak about Ole, the disdain and sheer hatred ye have and yer wish for us to lose so he will get sacked is pathetic.

I don't believe ye can call yourself fans, maybe fair weather fans, maybe keyboard warriors alright but not fans. You'll say who do I think I am questioning your loyalty, I've heard ye say it before and I've left it cause who am I to question it, but in my opinion ye are not fans. Fans support their club no matter what. I hated mourinho but I still wanted him to get it right. I'm not a huge fan of pogba but still want him to succeed because it's good for the club. Yer just complainers

Tell ya what though, Fergie would have been gone long before he won any trophies if people with your opinions were listened to.
Inferring about what players think of Ole! ye haven't a clue, nor do I, but I see no players coming out and badmouthing or showing that there is any bad atmosphere like I did under our last manager. Any player I have heard has praised Ole for the difference he has made to the club, correct me if I am wrong.

Support your club, support your manager and your players.

In Ole I still trust, believe!

Rosspique

1.) 04 Oct 2021 16:27:11
It’s only now we have winners in our team you might start hearing moans, that’s why you have not had anyone coming out the dressing room moaning about Ole up to yet, would you moan 250k per week Martial for instance, gets no abuse from Ole only praise, goes home puts his feet up and oh another game next week dear me!
Get to finals lose, does the manager moan and groan…. Oh no we played well just this or that was against us.
We play boring slow football week after week does the manager moan and groan Nope, so why would players who keep being told how great they played…but lost moan……… TBF Shaw never even come out and moaned when Jose was there, all that he done was become a better player.
You never hear players moan about the manager in situ, it’s only when there gone, so your going to hear quite some stories when Ole is gone.


2.) 04 Oct 2021 16:46:29
Don't think anybody has said they don't support the team, however the manager when clearly out of his depth is losing the support of his own free will. Get off your high horse, some fans are blind to the dross we're being served up but most of us will call out the rubbish being served up by an inept manager.

What an absolute pile of crap you've just spouted. And damn right people will question your questioning of loyalty.

Not one fan I know hopes ole doesn't succeed. Nor do I know or any fan wishing we'll lose to get Ole sacked. Don't put words in people's mouths. We all want him to succeed but it has become clear to see that he will not.


3.) 04 Oct 2021 16:52:10
Rosspique other fans could spin that the other way and say you are not a fan of the club if you accept what has been served up by ole not just this season since he took over. how about let's not alienate any fan for their opinion and what they want for the club that differs from your views and what you want.

Also some fans supports clubs, some fans support players and some support managers and some support all of them, me personally I support the club and the players I want the best managers to make the players better but ultimately as long as the manager is good/ competent, then i couldn't care less who it was.

I think ole has taken this team as far as he can has he been successful, I think off the field yes on the field no, no need to explain why we all have eyes.


4.) 04 Oct 2021 16:53:06
Jackamus, don't mistake how Ole is and what he says to the press with what he says and does behind closed doors.

I've read and watched interviews with the players where they say the manager shouts at them and has a go at them when needed.

Before Jesse's loan to West Ham he shouted at him from the sidelines "do that one more time and you're off".

Yes Ole is very happy, polite and jovial with the press. As he should be. Poor managers wash their laundry in public no one else.

I've supported Ole up until now, but it is becoming clear that he now has a squad more capable than he is. He doesn't seem to be able to get them playing to their ability. So it's probably time for a change.

That said, there is no need to be nasty, personal or disrespectful towards Ole. All it does is show how little class you have, nothing else.

Ole came in, did his best, changed the atmosphere, moved on players who weren't good enough, got many playing well, brought in good quality players, was able to attract the world class players that some said would never want to come in and work with him, he has created our best squad since 2012/ 13, maybe a squad better than that side, he has helped guide Greenwood when he threatened to go off the rails due to a personal trauma, helped him through his England disgrace, and now he is one of our best players.

Ole has done a lot of good things and helped the club a lot. That said I think he has gone as far as he can and we are starting to stagnate. Time for a change. But no need to show yourself up.


5.) 04 Oct 2021 16:55:13
What about Ole do you trust. I trust that he has peaked with us and should let someone who actually can, take us to the next level.


6.) 04 Oct 2021 17:06:26
Shappy why am I showing myself up, I know exactly how Ole is as a person and don’t need to do that with video’s or you tube, but that’s another story and of no relevance. I confused why you say showing myself up though, what because I don’t agree with you, or I don’t think Ole is up to the job….
You are sadly mistaken if you think the players he signed (or signed in his tenure) only come because of Ole, they would have come no matter who was manager, you really don’t seem to grasp the mindset of a professional footballer.
I don’t think that Ole can be solely responsible for Greenwood coming good at all, that stupid statement because no one knows if say under Jose he would have been even better then he is now and for everyone you find I can find another that’s gone backwards under Ole, that might have progressed under another, so your the one showing yourself up now.


7.) 04 Oct 2021 17:15:12
Shappy, what's it like up on that big high horse of yours?

You paint your own picture of Ole with no inside knowledge of any of the goings on inside Man United. All guesswork from you, speaking like you have inside knowledge of things. Having a go at others for their opinions whilst declaring how much you know. Where the truth is, you know the same of the rest of us, nothing.


8.) 04 Oct 2021 18:07:10
Jackamus, unless you know Ole personally, have spent time with him or been managed by him then you know as little as the rest of us.

I'm basing how he is with players from what the players themselves say. That is probably a better measure than guess than just watching a few press officer controlled interviews.

You show yourself up when you bad mouth someone. Simple as that. If you can't understand that then there's very little point trying to explain it.

I've known many professional footballers, and am aware that the manager of a club isn't the sole reason for moving to a club. But for most it's a part of the consideration when an offer is made.

I also never said Ole is solely responsible for Greenwood, or that another manager couldn't of handled it as well or even better. Just that it is something that has been achieved by Ole.


9.) 04 Oct 2021 18:32:11
So shappy we shouldn't believe what the manager says to the press but we should believe what the players say. My oh my your Double standards get better by the day. I'm in i'm out its black iss white, don't listen do listen, contradict don't contradict. Its just more contradictions.


10.) 04 Oct 2021 18:51:43
True Angel, but I don't demean myself by being nasty with my guess work.


11.) 04 Oct 2021 18:59:18
Rosspique, the moment you bring up other teams and their managers into the equation while also bringing up Sir Alex into the mix (who had achieved far more than OGS before signing for United) it clearly shows you got nothing else to defend Ole with.

As far as being fans - anyone supporting the club is a fan. Just because someone is not supporting a incompetent manager or player does not make them a non fan.

"Fergie would have been gone long before he won any trophies if people with your opinions were listened to" dont' know about that but tell you what, if Ronaldo was starting out as a young player under Ole he would never make it at United.

Players not complaining or moaning, it's probably because they see Ole more as a friend than a manager and everyone has got into their comfort zone so much so that they are loving at.

But with highly decorated players like Ronaldo and Varane now in the team things could take a turn for the worst very soon.

You can be a fan but not a blind follower.


12.) 04 Oct 2021 19:23:34
Ken, where did I say don't believe what the manager says in a press conference.

Just don't believe he is as one dimensional as he is in his press conferences.

You're not a fool, you know as well as I that no manager who has control of his employees or respect for his company would air the businesses dirty laundry in public.

If you came out and said John from accounting is a mug and ballsed up the quarterly figures publicly, you'd expect to be dragged into your superiors office and face some sort of disciplinary action.

Just because Ole doesn't come out and throw his players under the bus or tell the world's media what one of his players weaknesses are or what they should be doing better that doesn't mean he isn't having these conversations with the players themselves.

Of course listen to what both the players and the manager have to say to the press, but don't be a dope and believe you are getting the whole story.


13.) 04 Oct 2021 19:30:24
Who's being nasty shappy?

If you're suggesting I am, well then we both have a very different definition of the word nasty.


14.) 04 Oct 2021 19:44:50
Shappy you have no idea. If John ballsed up the figures and I said that publicly I would have no dressing down from my superiors. Your not very well learned on employment law at all. Don't be making stuff up again or so talking about stuff you have no clue about and just guess.


15.) 04 Oct 2021 20:09:40
Ken, stop being nasty.


16.) 04 Oct 2021 20:22:23
Shappy where have I bad mouthed him, saying he is not up to the job or not fit for purpose for the post is not bad mouthing!

What did I say exactly that’s bad mouthing him?

Don’t have the hump so much, because you are now reversing like a tanker in the Suez Canal because you have realised all this time you have been defending Ole you now know was wrong, that’s typical trying to deflect… you sound like Ole blaming everything but his inadequacy?

Waiting for you to tell me where I bad mouthed Ole?


17.) 04 Oct 2021 20:28:07
Shappy your trying to deflect, all because you now backtracking and don’t support Ole no more, don’t start taking it out on people being nasty.

In fact your the one getting very nasty to everyone it’s quite embarrassing your acting that way and then have audacity to say people should not be nasty

And if John in accounts had ballsed up the accounts and he did do it, it’s fact so no problem with stating facts and your superiors could not discipline you for it.

And by the way I do and very well thanks, don’t mean to say I have to think he good in the job.


18.) 04 Oct 2021 20:30:22
So calling out poor performance is being nasty now? Sounding like the snowflake generation.


19.) 05 Oct 2021 06:12:37
I agree, we should sack John from accounting.


20.) 05 Oct 2021 07:45:51
I'm with you grim??.


21.) 05 Oct 2021 17:56:59
Jesus how did that turn into a shappy bashing event.
Ah the post done the job I wanted it to anyways. Good to know.


 

 

01 Sep 2021 21:46:54
Heartbreaking in this particular instance but that is why Ronaldo back at old Trafford is going to be magnificent.
In Ole I trust. Believe!

Rosspique

1.) 01 Sep 2021 22:07:51
Get that Ronaldo out of my club 🤣🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪.


2.) 01 Sep 2021 22:08:47
2 chances 2 goals.


3.) 01 Sep 2021 22:23:08
Ronnie could turn a lot of those frustrating draws into wins for us by doing exactly what he did tonight. Portugal were poor and never looked like winning. Then bang bang and they go home with all the points.


4.) 02 Sep 2021 06:24:48
Tim_99, you are right.

However, I hope Ole doesn't become too over reliant on Ronaldo and puts too much pressure on him.

Ronaldo at his age in the PL needs to be managed properly and knowing Ole I would worry slightly.


5.) 02 Sep 2021 16:51:51
Leahy, Ronaldo did the business last night, but surely his penalty has to count as a chance?

3 chances, 2 goals😂.


 

 

 

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26 Nov 2021 15:07:05
It's a strange world.
Funny it's the same people who were slandering Ole, calling him every name in the book and what any reasonable person would call bullying who seem to disagree with my point.
I'm terribly ok with not being in that company I have to say.
Is it just cause Ole is white you're allowed to do that.

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26 Nov 2021 15:00:13
??? white privileged people ?? if only you knew but again thanks for labelling 'people like me'

Steve Bruce seems to get some amount of abuse, Ogs got a lot online towards the end. You don't hear political points regarding this. Frank lampard and Wayne Rooney were called fat most of their professional lives.

What's the point in anyone not being racist if you're going to infer they are just because they think differently.

Anyways keep making everything about race, see how well it ends.

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26 Nov 2021 10:38:17
Thorne I'm basically not saying that at all. But of course it's your right to put words in my mouth.

Look back at swyws post which predates mine. I'm not the one calling the ethics and character of ragnik into question who says if he won't combat racism to swyws standards then he isn't fit to be manager.

What utter tosh!

Again this in my opinion is why politics should be kept out of football.

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26 Nov 2021 09:52:10
Cr92 firstly you know nothing about me, my colour or my creed so please don't be making assumptions about me, what I represent or my EDUCATION (does it make one more educated when one types it in caps or something.

Secondly would you mind explaining how my post and opinion is biased. By you saying 'ppl like you are the real problem' you've literally proven my point in the last line of previous post, ie people if anyone has a different opinion they are labelled. People like me, what exactly do you mean by that?

Thirdly you accuse me of brushing past racist slurs as just 'banter' yet you seem to dismiss Rafiqs racist slurs because he has had racist slurs used against him. How does that one work?

At no point did I say his racist tweet abolished the countless racist remarks that he may have faced his whole life. However have you ever heard that old saying, 'those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones'

I want to try an exercise, replace 1 letter in racist, change it to rapist. If someone is in court accusing someone of rape and during proceedings it emerges that that person has raped someone, that does not dismiss the crime that has been committed, namely rape, however it does bring into question the character of the person making the accusation.
Now imagine that both the accusing party and the defendant are celebrities/ sports people, Is it fair that the defendant would be cancelled while the accusing party doesn't at least have their version of events queried.
In my view accusations of institutional racism are very different to accusations of casual racism used by an individual.
I don't see the justice in either circumstance but hey you continue to label 'people like me' and question my EDUCATION.
I prefer the world I live in than the one you do.
It is for precisely this reason that I think Politics should be kept out if football. That's my opinion, you're as entitled to yours as I am mine thank the lord.

Sorry to others on here for this statement but it has to be said. You have to call a spade a spade when you see it.

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26 Nov 2021 00:18:56
Keep politics out of football. You don't have to bring racism into every single thing.

Azeem rafiq brings a case if racism against English cricket. It's then proven that azeem rafiq has engaged in some of the racist practice he is accusing his former team mates among others of.

Throws and allegation at Michael Vaughan and then the BBC essentially cancels him, over an allegation of racism from a person proven to themselves be a racist. You honestly could not make this crap up. In the case of racism it's guilty until proven innocent these days.

This is why you keep politics out of football

People should be allowed to have different opinions than yours without the threat of being labelled.

Rosspique

 

 

 

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25 Oct 2021 13:50:12
Joke about moysey. Although maybe if we had been patient there it would have saved a lot of time and disappointment.
Ken, am I Ole out. Hmm I never was but the start of this season has been disgraceful and it's impossible to defend Ole.
When Ole came in he said he wanted us to be the fittest team in the league, we are clearly nowhere near. The patterns of play aren't developing as they should. I was willing to overlook this as he was accomodating 3 new players and it was the start of the season but in the last 5 games I've watched from villa onwards all hell has broken loose.
Whatever about Ole and whether I still believe in him or not it's clear that the coaching is not of the standard required and Ole has to take the heat for that.
I think souness was right yesterday, if Ole is to stay he needs world class coaches alongside him.
However I do feel it is too late.

I was always Ole in and I'll support him till he goes. My line in the sand was not getting out of champions League group again, that's the earliest I would have been calling for Ole to have gotten the sack but our performances in the league are just as concerning.

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16 Oct 2021 17:34:44
I cannot wait to knock ye off yer perch ?.

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16 Oct 2021 17:25:47
Reading back on my post, looks like I'm blaming Ronaldo for Oles deficiencies, I do see the issues with in game management and patterns of play and maybe now even man management.

I do think that Ronaldo forces us to play a particular way though and it's this that has seen us regress.

But as I said he had to be signed.

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05 Oct 2021 17:56:59
Jesus how did that turn into a shappy bashing event.
Ah the post done the job I wanted it to anyways. Good to know.

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04 Oct 2021 16:19:08
The same poch who has never won a trophy and is just after losing to Rennes 2-0, while failing to register a single shot on goal with an attack of Messi, Neymar and Mbappe.
The same poch who came 2nd in the French farmers league last season?

Honest to god, lunatics running the asylum these days.
Ye criticise Ole but love Poch. Where's the difference, if ones a pe teacher so is the other.

Rosspique

{Ed014's Note - Poch did lose a final rather than a semi ?