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17 Feb 2021 03:19:45
Ed's do we still have an interest in Benoît Badiashile (CB) or are we looking at a more experienced option in the summer?

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{Ed002's Note - The interest is in others.}


1.) 17 Feb 2021 10:42:13
Ed said previously that our top targets are Pau Torres and Ben White.

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}


2.) 17 Feb 2021 10:30:16
Hi again Ed002.
Pau Torres the preferred target as I understand it from previous posts.
The Seville CB Kounde is being reported as also being a new target for OGS, anything in this from what you know?

{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}


3.) 17 Feb 2021 12:51:47
Thanks Ed002.


4.) 17 Feb 2021 13:05:25
Here are some of the recent updates on CBs as provided by Ed002, to whom I would like to say a big THANK YOU.

{Ed002's Note - Pau Torres (CB) Manchester City have him as an option. Manchester United have him as first choice but only if sufficient sales are made. Barcelona has a sustained interest but price will likely be an issue and they may look to horse trade some players - but little will become clear before the election is completed. Bayern Munich have him as one of three primary targets to fill the two CB slots they need to address in the summer.


Ben White (CB) an alternative to Pau Torres for Manchester United, but seen as expensive because of the "English premium". Spurs have sustained interest but the funding will go on other priorities. Liverpool could look to white to boost their HG quota if they opt for aan expensive addition. Brighton will look to hang on to him.


Sergio Ramos (CB) PSG wanted a January agreement to take him as a Free Agent in the summer but the player is apparently reluctant to commit just yet. Real Madrid want to extend his contract but want to reduce the package he currently gets to help their quest to cut costs - if that gap can somehow be resolved it is the most likely solution. Interest from both the Far East and the Middle East is not attractive for the player. Milan offer a potential option because of tax advantages in Italy - but they will probably add Fikayo Tomori and it is likely the second CB they are looking for will be younger. Whilst the Premier League would provide an interesting challenge for the player, at just about 35 years old with significant wage demands it makes little sense for the clubs. I am not aware of any approach from Manchester United and would expect them to look at a younger long term solution.


Jules Kounde (CB) Sevilla rejected a significant offer from Manchester City last summer and Monchi has confirmed that Manchetser City remain keen still. He was recommended to Manchester United by an advisor but there has not been any approach just yet - and others seem more likely at this time. Real Madrid were the other side who were keen last summer and they are looking to add two CBs this summer with one agreed in principle, the other will be one of four on their shortlist which includes Jules Kounde. With one of those four likely not obtainable it would then come down to balancing the books with other sales and purchases.


Ibrahima Konate (CB) could emerge as an option for first choice for Liverpool in the summer - Liverpool have been talking with his agent but whether or not Konate has been discussed in detail is not known, but his agent offered a different player to Liverpool. RBL will want to hang on to him as they will lose Upamecano in the summer. Money would possibly be an issue for Liverpool and any further illegal approaches to RBL players would no doubt result in a complaint now. Expect interest from Spurs as well and possibly Manchester United but he is far from first choice for them. Chelsea have shown no interest in him to date.


Raphael Varane (CB) and that is about it for CBs. If he does not sign a renewal he will be sold in the summer - possibly leaving Real Madrid needing to add three CBs. Manchester United have other targets but could be tempted. Do not be surprised to see Spurs rejig their summer plans to buy him. Mr Mourinho will look to a way to sign Varane for Spurs in the summer. The player wants a new challenge and PSG will likely push for him in their quest for a leading French player. }.


5.) 17 Feb 2021 13:45:37
Really like the look of Jules Kounde out of this lot. But then again he is an 'emerging' talent, relatively inexperienced in a weak league, and in the notoriously physical PL, I wonder if a more established player is required.


6.) 17 Feb 2021 13:48:11
Thanks for that Deependra.


7.) 17 Feb 2021 14:14:52
Thanks Deependra!

Is there anything to on the DoF front? I’ve read about the guy from Monaco, has there been anything more said by the Eds?


8.) 17 Feb 2021 19:51:43
+1 deeps.


9.) 19 Feb 2021 14:25:23
Another one to add courtesy of ED002. Again a Big Thank you to him for his great insights.

{Ed002's Note - Nikola Milenkovic (CB) Inter Milan, Manchester United and Juventus have all expressed and interest in Milenkovic who Fiorentina will possibly be open to selling for €50M-€60M in the summer. His representatives are pushing him toward Manchester United who already have a lengthy list of targets and their prior interest could return - he was an alternative to Maguire. I am not aware of any interest from Liverpool at this time. }.


10.) 19 Feb 2021 14:52:26
From the list only Pau Torres/ Benoît Badiashile are left footed CBs and exactly what we need.

Watched a few youtube videos of these players and not much convinced about Jules Kounde, he looks like a attacking CB who is probably more suited to a fluid attacking team. Both Pau Torres and Nikola Milenkovic look better options for us. Nikola Milenkovic reminds me of Vidic the way he plays, gets stuck into his opponent and is more aggressive than Torres.


 

 

17 Feb 2021 03:01:43
Ed's do we have any interest in André Silva (ST) from Frankfurt? Looks a good fit for us.

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{Ed002's Note - Andre Silva (S) was recommended to several clubs, certainly including Everton and Manchester United, by a very high-end independent scout who used to play in the Premier League. This dates back to last summer before his loan became a permanent move.}


1.) 17 Feb 2021 12:51:13
Thanks Ed002. Are we still interested though?

{Ed002's Note - I only know what I have written which probably means that MU have not approached his club - where he only signed a few months ago.}


2.) 17 Feb 2021 13:41:08
Ok Thanks Ed002.


 

 

06 Jan 2021 08:22:17
Moises Caicedo - what do you guys think? Although playing in a weaker league does look the complete package and has all the attributes to be a complete midfielder in the years to come.

Now, the manager of his club has dismissed any communication from United recently just after some reports suggesting the club have increased his price. Are the EDs aware of any approach from us?

I feel we must just take a gamble and sign him up. It is difficult to find players having his qualities who is equally good defensively and offensively. I hope we don't mess around like we did with Haaland and then come to regret not signing him.

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{Ed002's Note - Moises Caicedo (CM/DM) My understanding is that he impressed when Manchester United were following up on looking at another player who they had first seen in the Real Sociedad reserves. There has been interest in Caicedo from a couple of other sides including PSV and Chelsea.}


1.) 06 Jan 2021 12:47:51
Thanks Ed002. Do you think we will sign him this window?

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to predict timescales but there is interest in him.}


2.) 06 Jan 2021 12:53:25
Chelsea's interest seems to be in the news lately. Ed002 what do you make of the player?

{Ed002's Note - Someone well placed at Chelsea is very keen on doing something and options have been discussed with his club already.}


3.) 06 Jan 2021 13:09:06
Doesn't sound good for us. Chelsea don't mess around with transfers like we do.

Thanks Ed002.


4.) 06 Jan 2021 15:41:11
My boys coach watches a lot of South American football and has been raving about Caicedo. He thinks with the recent purchases of Pellistri and Diallo he seems exactly the sort of player profile that OGS is looking for.
Has potential as a long term replacement as either a HM or box to box for Pogba.
Seems to be a no brainer and worth a punt, could end up saving us a fortune in the long run if it works out.


5.) 06 Jan 2021 17:14:42
If he cost £10-£15 million then it isn't a bad price to pay for him. Certainly worth a punt.


6.) 06 Jan 2021 17:45:14
Something in the Athletic today about it bring a really complicated transfer with multiple “agents” claiming to represent him etc.

{Ed002's Note - Atlanta said they were duped by someone who wanted a cut.}


7.) 07 Jan 2021 07:53:31
Thanks Brad76 for the info.

I really like the look of this player. At times, the way he plays you could mistake him for Pogba. He has the passing range, energy, pace, physicality, shooting ability and looks calm and composed on the ball. He also seems to tackle well and defensively good much like Kante.

It looks a no brainer to me as well and he is going to improve even more and has the potential to be world class in the future.


8.) 07 Jan 2021 08:52:24
I think the last thing we all want is another Pogba!


9.) 07 Jan 2021 09:40:13
Well Eric79, did you notice the words "energy" and "tackle well and defensively good"? I don't think those words can be associated with Pogba.


10.) 07 Jan 2021 07:54:20
Interesting Ed002, thanks.


11.) 07 Jan 2021 15:49:18
Lpu. I've not seen any of him. Where did you get the footage to know so much? Can you post the link i'd love to see more.
Have you seen him play live?


12.) 08 Jan 2021 04:20:08
Ken - not seen him live. Just some clips on youtube.

You know sometimes when you see a player and you sense and know that this guy is going to go places - it's one of those. I felt the same about Haaland and unfortunately we couldn't get him.

Caicedo is not yet perfect but seems to have all the skills to be a complete midfielder in the near future.


13.) 08 Jan 2021 20:08:25
Not seen him at all mate. As a result i can't give an opinion.


14.) 09 Jan 2021 04:09:55
Fair enough Ken. Maybe Ed002 can share some info. on the player.

{Ed002's Note - There is growing interest in him and he is well thought of. I don't think it would do him any good at all moving to Manchester United and hopefully that is the advice he will get.}


15.) 09 Jan 2021 14:04:07
If i was a player trying to make my way in the game i would not go near any team ole was coaching. i'd stay well clear and take my chances elswhere.


 

 

06 Jan 2021 04:59:36
Sven Botman being linked to us, a tall 20yr old Dutch CB. I heard he was strongly linked with Liverpool which seem to be now dismissed as agent talk. Anything the EDs know? Is he an option for us?

From the clips on youtube, he is a left footed player who seems good on the ball with excellent distribution skills. Seems good in 1vs1 situations, physical, decent in the air and seems to have the pace. Although he tackles well, at times seems to lunge in.

He seems to be available for £27million as per reports. Looks good on youtube, anyone seen him play on a regular basis?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach by Manchester United.}


1.) 06 Jan 2021 12:48:56
Thanks Ed002.


2.) 06 Jan 2021 16:42:10
I hear we're interested in his team mate Robin as well.

{Ed047's Note - 🤦‍♂️🤣


3.) 07 Jan 2021 10:16:35
bilko!, Botman and Robin under the wings of Ole - a dream team that.


 

 

04 Jan 2021 06:48:10
Moises Caicedo being strongly linked with us and looks like it's up to us to firm up our interest and conclude the deal. Do the EDs know anything regarding this?

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{Ed002's Note - Try searching.}


1.) 04 Jan 2021 11:32:38
It's looking like United will try and tie up a deal for Caicedo this window if possible. I know he has played international football for Ecuador, will getting a work permit for him be fairly straight forward?

{Ed002's Note - That is not how it works - it very much also takes account of the price paid and the wages.}


2.) 04 Jan 2021 13:50:25
Thanks Ed002, I'm far from an expert on international visas. I know in the past clubs have struggled to sign a player without international recognition. I'd imagine him representing his country will help and application, but appreciate that its far more nuanced than that.

{Ed002's Note - It is a points based system - exceptions can be made.}


 

 

 

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24 Feb 2021 15:45:41
Lot of rumours about Jules Kounde but is he really a good fit for us?

He looks more of an adventurous defender who could drift out of position every now and then and his headed clearances look weak. Plus he isn't too tall and could struggle against teams in the PL which are physical and good in the air. His tackling reminds me about AWB and seems to have good recovery pace but not sure about his all round game.

We probably are better off looking for someone who is tall, good with his positioning, composed, good in the air and who is physically imposing and Nikola Milenković looks like what we need.

What do you think?

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{Ed077's Note - Maguire is tall but a poor defender overall. I have been impressed whenever I've seen Kounde play, which admittedly isn't a huge number of times, LPU but Milenkovic isn't a bad shout either if the club has some reservations about Kounde. Whether Kounde is a good fit for us or not is for the scouts go decide.}


1.) 24 Feb 2021 16:07:00
Pau Torres looks like the second coming of Rio on you tube 🤔.

{Ed077's Note - YouTube can go either way. But there seems to be a lot admirers of Pau Torres.}


2.) 24 Feb 2021 17:21:09
Ed077 I agree with you. And I know youtube is not the best way to judge a player but probably you get a glimpse of what the player can offer.

Out of the three Pau Torres is probably the more composed defemder. Milenkovic is more like Vidic I feel and has that no nonsense approach and gets stuck into his opponents and I feel we need someone like that currently at the back who imposes himself and keeps the attackers under check.

And Ed what do you think of David Carmo as an option?

{Ed077's Note - never seen him play to say speak about Carmo. Isn't he at Sporting Braga? If we are going down the very young route than my first choice is going to be Badiashile at Monaco.}


3.) 24 Feb 2021 17:41:06
Ed077 yes Badiashile looks another good option. There seems to be a lot of options at the moment and it's upto us to get it right in the summer.

Hope we don't mess around.

{Ed077's Note - and we so desperately need to get it right if we are to kick on and build upon this season.}


4.) 24 Feb 2021 18:43:01
Ed077 I feel we need two CB's ideally. Everyone knows the weakness of Lindelof and Maguire, we're even seeing oppositions exploiting them.

Pau Torres possesses good height and composure.
Kounde seems to be a beast. Although not that tall, he has a good leap and pace.
It's all about getting the right combination.

{Ed077's Note - ideally two CBS might be needed but the club might not want to block the path for Mengi just yet and other young lads in the academy. Also Maguire cost 80m and will be hard to move him on. So kind of stuck with Harry as well.}


5.) 24 Feb 2021 19:30:33
Dias was the one they should have went for, very good defender. Mad we went for Maguire instead of someone like him, someone who can actually defend.

{Ed077's Note - Mourinho wanted him but the board didn't push hard to bring Dias to the club. Who knows if that move would have worked out for Dias as well as his move to man city has?}


6.) 24 Feb 2021 22:35:29
Harry may have cost 80m but he has been poor I would go for both kounde and Torres.


7.) 25 Feb 2021 01:27:16
Has mcguire ever played right side?

Pau is left footed and a rare thing as a very high quality left footed CB.

I only remember seeing McGuire play left now I think of it.

{Ed077's Note - yes he has. It's only at United that he has been played exclusively as a LCB. For Hull and Leicester he played RCB on many occasions.}


8.) 25 Feb 2021 10:11:12
Maguire always plays on the left of a two for us, with Lindelof always the right of the two. But then when we play 3 at the back, Maguire is central and Lindelof plays on the left, with Bailly on the right. I don't get how Lindelof can play left in a 3 but not in a 2. I'm not at all impressed with either of our first choice CBs, but Maguire is a little held back having to play on the left.

Speaking of which, I couldn't help notice against Newcastle how very one-footed our entire team is. Possible exception of Greenwood. What ever happened to working on your weaker foot? :)


9.) 25 Feb 2021 11:07:27
Maguire has more often than not played as the LCB despite being right footed. I don't think its as big a deal as most people make out. Most LCB's are right footed, and having a left footer there only really offers you a marginal gain when playing out from the back or when being pressed as you will have more of the pitch to easily pass into off your stronger foot. So being left footed is only really beneficial in certain circumstances.

Vidic was one of the best CB's in the EPl while playing LCB and being right footed, Ricardo Carvalho was another as is VvD currently.

Maguire's issues aren't based on him playing left or right CB, its that he ball watches and gets dragged out of position regardless of which side of the pairing he is supposed to be playing on.

He is unaware of where the opposition are and he is unaware of where his teammates are, hence on several occasions he has tackled, blocked and even hauled down teammates when trying to win the ball. He doesn't know who's where or which team they play for, he just blindly bumbles toward the ball in an attempt to stick his sizable frame in between the ball and the goal.


10.) 25 Feb 2021 12:35:45
Shappy your assessment of Maguire does raise the question on how Ole still chooses him as the captain and how come the coaching staff have not been able to make him more aware in games. Is it more fun and games in training rather than intense defensive drills to get it right?


11.) 25 Feb 2021 12:54:14
LPU, do you have a dog? I do and ideally I'd love it if he went to the loo in the toilet then I wouldn't have to take him out when it's raining.

Unfortunately that training is beyond him, he's a smart dog but not smart enough to use a toilet.

Harry Maguire is 27 years old, he has had 10 years training in a professional academy, he has had a further 7 years being coached at professional football clubs, at Sheffield United, Hull, Leicester and United, while he has also been coached by the England coaching staff both as youth and professional level.

In total 17 years of professional coaching from many different coaches, at what point do you just accept he's not bright enough to grasp the concepts the coaches are trying to teach him?

Because like you say it's clear and obvious to us what the issues are, the coaches would have definitely had seen it, and at least a few would have tried to correct it. Yet he still does it.

As for taking the captaincy away from him, he should have done so in the summer after all the stuff in Greece. That was a mistake. But at the same time taking it away would have undermined his confidence. While some might argue the role of captain in modern football is close to a ceremonial role. Maguire has said himself that Matic deals with the discipline, while clearly Bruno is the on pitch leader.

As for why Ole picks him, I'd probably pick Maguire if I was in Ole's position. Not because I rate Maguire but because there just really isn't many other options. Jones? Or maybe we get the gaffer tape out and hope it can hold Bailly together long enough to complete 5 games in a row. Or do we go with Tuanzebe, a player who has also suffered injuries. Scraping the barrel we could give the young and talented Mengi a run. But that would take big balls to drop an 80m signing for an 18 year old academy graduate with no experience at this level.


12.) 25 Feb 2021 13:19:07
Shappy so how much do you rate our coaching staff? Do you think they are excellent?

No matter how much professional training a player gets it's still a re-learning process when you move clubs and you play to different tactics, system and team mates. Factor in the different approach to training by the coaches it's not the same. What you do in training should reflect on the pitch most of the times if properly coached which doesn't seem to be the case.

By your assessment Maguire should be doing really great in training every time that he is undroppable except that his training doesn't translate onto the pitch.


13.) 25 Feb 2021 15:11:11
LPU, I haven't been coached by our current coaching staff so I have no idea how good they are or what they are doing in training. Which unless someone on here is a player at the club then we are all in the same boat as that one.

I never really rated Mike Phelan as a coach, when he was Sir Alex's assistant we played some very boring cautious football. Yet Sir Alex rates him highly, so who's opinion of the guy should carry more weight?

McKenna was very highly rated young coach when we poached him from Spurs, he did well with the youth set up and has been promoted to help bridge the gap between the youth set up and the first team. Judging by the number of academy graduates who have been given a debut (14 so far) under Ole then it seems to be going well.

Carrick was praised by both LvG and Jose as a future top coach for the way he understands the game.

So these guys have had some pretty big recommendations, and by people who have seen them work close up.

Are they any good at their job? I dunno.

As for Maguire's terrible ball watching and more reading of the game, this is stuff I coached ten year olds to not do. Some pick it up fairly quickly, some take a little while to get it, and some just don't have the capacity to learn it. They play without thought and just do, play on instinct. Some do okay with that, others are just headless chickens.

If at the age of 27 having had 17 years of professional coaching from people far better and more qualified than me coaching him and he still doesn't get it, I doubt he ever will.

My assessment doesn't suggest Maguire is doing great in training, just that of our 5 first team CB's he is one of only 2 who you can rely on to be fit most weeks.

If you have 5 fat unhealthy men and you make them race the one who finishes first isn't necessarily a great sprinter, he's just the best of a bad bunch. Put him up against the best at the Olympics and he'll embarrass himself.

Training no matter who does it has its limitations, its not possible to coach a bad player into a world class player. If it was then we wouldn't bother having transfers, you'd just pick 11 average guys off the street and make them world class players with great coaches.

The reason most of us aren't getting 200k a week playing for United isn't because we didn't have world class coaches as kids, but because the ceiling of our ability wasn't high enough.

Maguire has probably has 50-60 professional coaches at least work with him since the age of 7 or 8 in the Sheffield United youth team right the way through his career to now. At what point do we say stop saying it the coaches fault that Maguire is a poor player and just accept that he isn't that good.


14.) 25 Feb 2021 16:06:28
Shappy you still need to train properly to keep your instincts sharp no matter how long you have been training and you need the proper coaches to do that. Do you see any sort of defensive organization at the back? I don't and that itself suggests our defensive coaching is not that great.

Maguire may not be a top player but a proper coach would be able to get the best out of him. What I am saying is Maguire/ Lindelof are just part of the problem that also includes our coaching. You just cannot absolve the responsibility of Ole and the coaching staff and just blame the players for consistent mistakes at the back.


15.) 25 Feb 2021 17:00:00
LPU, I suppose it all comes down to what you see. I have worked at youth level coaching, and I specialised in defensive set up.

I don't see a great deal wrong with how we set up, bar the fact that our players make too many individual errors.

Our full backs tuck in to make a narrow back four, with only one full back pushing forward at a time and the other staying back. This could be considered defensive or cautious, yet with two CB's who aren't the quickest having once full back alongside them makes sense. Often the full back who pushes further forward is Shaw, but his starting position just like AWB's on the other side is more on the inside channel rather than the outside channel. Its a narrower position, the full back will then look to play a one two with the winger and move from inside to outside taking the wide position looking for the return ball. Doing so forces the opposition full back to go with the runner which can open up space for the winger/ wide player. If they leave the runner then a quick pass and we are in behind.

Our midfield is interesting, neither Fred or McTominay are natural holding players, yet both start deep and sit covering the centre of defence. Often a one two will be played with Maguire to allow him to break the press as he steps forward. The issue with playing two more natural box to box/ shuttler players in a double pivot is that often they forget to pick up the midfield runner. We often concede goals to opposition midfielders making late unmarked runs into the box. That is down to not having a natural CDM. This happens much less when Matic plays, but he doesn't have the legs to play every game.

Our defensive shape tends to be deep and narrow, mostly due to a lack of pace and mobility in our back line. If we played higher then a simple over the top ball could undo us fairly easily.

We don't actually concede many goals from open play and when we do it tends to be either from an individual error or from our midfield not tracking runners.

Where we struggle is at set pieces, now there is two reasons for this. Firstly, we have no one taking charge of the situation. DDG isn't very vocal, nor is he comfortable coming out to collect high balls hit in the danger alley around the 6 yard box. So with DDG not coming out, or communicating there is a lack of command of the box. The next issue is that Maguire is very poor in these situations, too often he watches the ball and even gets dragged towards it. He isn't aware of who is where and charges around like a bull in a china shop. The way he headed the ball back into the danger area then chased after it and hauled Luke Shaw to the ground as he was about to clear it allowing Spurs to score might have been the most calamitous piece of defending I have ever seen at a professional level. The sad thing is that it is not an isolated incident.

Some people want to blame the zonal marking, but in truth zonal marking is the better of the two. And in our case it would make little to no difference. The problem we have with zonal marking is that Harry gets drawn out of his zone because he is watching the ball. Leaving a huge space un marked, play the ball in there and someone can shoot unopposed.

However, if you decided to man mark then Harry will still get drawn to the ball and leave his player unmarked and the same situation occurs. While man marking systems work both ways. If you are man marking the opposition then they by design are marking you. Meaning if you win the ball then your player is marked as is all their passing options. Meaning your best bet is to just boot it out, which nearly always means you lose possession and the opposition can launch another attack. Zonal marking means that once you win the ball you are more likely to a an unmarked player to pass to and maybe launch a counter attack yourself.

So we have a clear shape, and tactical plan. While for the most part it works and we limit the opposition to limited chances from open play, while we are also the top scorers.

We concede goals from two main avenues, midfield runners not being tracked, and from individual mistakes of which Harry Maguire is the biggest culprit.


16.) 25 Feb 2021 18:33:25
Shappy so when individual errors happen consistently who takes the responsibility? What do you think the coaching staff are seeing and doing in training? Are they not aware of a player's abilities, weakness and how they perform in training and just let them get away in training?

If the coaching staff can't improve the players but are intent on playing them for whatever reason then the team needs to be coached to at least be more organized and play as a unit. I am really not seeing that especially defensively.

{Ed014's Note - well done you for reading those replies!


17.) 25 Feb 2021 18:54:14
LPU, who takes responsibility for individual errors? I'd imagine the individual.

I don't for one second think that our coaches are seeing these errors and thinking "sod it, we'll leave that as it is".

However, it's not easy to improve players who make fundamental mistakes over and over again. They just don't learn.

I mean you could just play 10 men behind the ball to cover for those errors, but I suspect if they did that you'd complain about that.


18.) 26 Feb 2021 05:03:33
Ed014 thanks but you probably need to appreciate Shappy's persistence to keep going with his replies.

Shappy individual errors on a regular basis isn't just down to the individual alone. There is no chance that the coaches don't see whether a player is prone to mistakes or not during training unless they are not good enough to notice that.

It's even more criminal if you know the player is not upto par and you still keep playing him even though both Bailly/ Tuanzebe are available on the bench and you play him because of his price tag or for whatever reason it maybe. And he's the captain as well when Bruno has been the best player on the pitch and leads by example.

The manager and coaching staff need to take responsibility for our defensive showing which has been shambolic at times.


 

 

19 Feb 2021 10:17:35
James did well yesterday and offers more pace and energy as well as an outlet to build counter attacks. Defensively as well helps out by closing players down quickly.

He has also shown his finishing skills with the goals he scored and can also assist with his crossing ability. Just needs the right guidance and he could become a valuable part of the squad.

With Martial really not doing much I would play James ahead of him especially in games where the opposition don't like to sit back and leave spaces in behind.

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1.) 19 Feb 2021 10:38:24
agree lpu - hope he picks the same starting 11 for newcastle and possibly gives more minutes to amad. never a real martial fan so wouldn't play him unless well up to rest another player. Possibly give minutes to tuanzebe resting awb 2nd half- well pleased last nite was a good performance all over the pitch.
Henderson vocality was great to hear and its about time he got a run at no 1.


2.) 19 Feb 2021 11:17:35
James played well yesterday and I'm pleased for him that he got his goal. That being said, he shouldn't be starting many games.

James is like Fred for me, will only be of use in specific games and is quite poor technically compared to others in their position. They are both very suited to counter attacking, if we have the majority of the ball we'd be far better with others on the pitch.


3.) 19 Feb 2021 11:37:26
He won't play the same team vs Newcastle, which makes sense for now at least until they reach the later rounds. But I believe he said Diallo may feature in the second leg, maybe he'll start.


4.) 19 Feb 2021 12:10:48
Fred is like the pantomime villain on here. He played two good key passes out to rashford yesterday that were quick and accurate and led to two goals. He is often neat and tidy in tight areas and we have had many good games this year where he has played very well. He is a much better player now than people on here are giving credit for.


5.) 19 Feb 2021 12:44:14
spenno- he probably won't but there's plenty of argument for doing so- henderson is a valid option to ddg on ability and confidense alone, the back four have played as a unit several games and the midfield defensive 2 fred and mctom have started more than not. fernandes rash have played almost every minute so that's a no brainer and then we have james who although hasn't started or played a lot has undoubted pace and against a injury ridden newcastle defence could cause problems as well as tracking back to double up on st maxim. cavani had a knock, shaw could be rested / sub and matic could either start or be sub to rest as last nite in case of mctom.
newcastle are so poor in midfield, have wilson out and probably will play the clowns boot, carroll. Ad the earlier poor defence options and the line up last nite against looks as good as any other. We also have subs / options.


6.) 19 Feb 2021 12:44:21
Dodgy,

Totally agree, he’s had a solid season.


7.) 19 Feb 2021 13:09:01
Yh Fred is perfect for the europa league, has always performed well in europe for us tbf, even in the champions league, missed him massively in leipzig.

Hes just a very odd player, so good off the ball but absolutely baffling to watch on the ball, second touch is normally a tackle and his forward passing accuracy is about as reliable as reliant robin.


8.) 19 Feb 2021 13:11:56
Agree on James, I believe he takes his chance when played more than others. Although I believe Donny will come good for us I don't think he has taken his chance as he should, but many think he is not getting a fair break but James does well when called on but not many think he is not getting a fair break.


9.) 19 Feb 2021 13:15:07
Fred is the most improved player of the lot and credit where it's due he has been consistent with his performances this season. There is still room for improvement.


10.) 19 Feb 2021 14:05:22
Fred is a decent midfielder though not top class. His work ethic and attitude is what I like in him.

DJ is a squad player imo and has to improve a lot in end product.
At the moment, our first choice front-line is Rashford, Cavani and Greenwood.
Diallo is close to making the starting XI per Ole, interested and excited to watch him.


11.) 19 Feb 2021 14:45:56
Fred has improved hugely this season, especially in the second half of the season. He covers every area of the pitch, so his engine and application was never in doubt. But his touch and passing ability were awful and he was a liability who teams would target to press in our half. He seems a lot more composed now, and his passes aren't going astray anything like how they used to. I'm not going to damn him with praise, but it's important to see that improvement.


12.) 19 Feb 2021 21:02:42
I think he (Fred) has taken a while to settle. But he is taking over the role from Matic now I think.

If fully fit I would have put Matic in first team for stability and forward passing / ball retention / defense screening etc. Now I would pick Fred first up for that role every time. Big improvement from when he first came.

Dan James is a funny one. He looks out of his depth I think. He still does good things. He works hard. But his body language looks like he is lacking in confidence at this level, and his end product needs to improve. Good impact this week, so hopefully he gets some confidence and increases his impact. Because he can certainly do a job in a squad game. Be is more natural winger than many of our first team forwards.


13.) 20 Feb 2021 19:33:38
Bang average player.


 

 

19 Feb 2021 10:07:56
Not sure why Ole looked so subdued yesterday and no reaction from him whatsoever for the goals we scored. Looked unimpressed throughout.

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1.) 19 Feb 2021 12:01:23
I'd imagine it's because he's not happy with the inconsistency. I know in his position, I wouldn't be overjoyed at a good performance like that, I'd be annoyed that a team capable of that had played the way they did in the last few games.


2.) 19 Feb 2021 12:45:32
If he was celebrating like a mad man i’m sure people would find a negative in that as well, perhaps the camera just didn’t go on to him at the moment the goals went in or he didn’t want to show too much emotion.


3.) 19 Feb 2021 13:22:46
GDS2 I am not suggesting he needs to be crazy but there was not even a smile on his face. Are you suggesting that the media is conspiring against Ole by not showing his best moments in a match and projecting him as an uninspiring manager at United?


4.) 19 Feb 2021 13:50:28
Probably because it's the Europa League, seriously am I the only one who struggles to get excited about playing in league 2 for the European competitions.


5.) 19 Feb 2021 13:56:10
No, I’m suggesting they just didn’t show it last night, no conspiracy at all, I just don’t think a managers emotions need to be analysed and judged after every goal, it’s not really a fair way to judge.


6.) 19 Feb 2021 14:06:56
I thought it was because of Rashy missing two 1 vs 1 in the first 10 mins.


7.) 19 Feb 2021 14:28:27
GDS2 I understand what you say but still wondering that there is a player in Ole the manager and a goal would just get him excited no matter what. Maybe the pressure of being the manager for United is taking it's toll on him.


8.) 19 Feb 2021 15:17:34
Shappy

No, me too. when we won it 3 years ago I was pleased but nothing like when we won something that mattered. I was more pleased to win the League Cup that year.


9.) 19 Feb 2021 17:21:50
We are possibly too spoilt, we haven’t won a trophy for 3 years, I would take a community shield right now.


 

 

18 Feb 2021 12:28:51
The Pogba debate seems to be back on. Yet again there are hundreds of excuses for him not performing consistently and still he gets the 'world class' or 'top player' tag which is beyond me.

The fact that people are still talking about his talent or potential and not his performances says a lot about him as a player. He simply doesn't have the mentality to fulfill his potential.

It seems he doesn't want to be the "best among the rest" as he probably likes to be "one among the best" in a team of Galacticos where he can stay in his comfort zone and not work hard.

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1.) 18 Feb 2021 13:19:45
It's only 'on' because you keep making it on :p
Ok, overall he's not lived up to the hype/ potential/ haircut etc, but his recent performances warrant a bit more positivity. For me anyway :D.


2.) 18 Feb 2021 13:36:01
He's 28 in less than a month. The potential debate is null and void.


3.) 18 Feb 2021 21:34:20
In the right team and the right surroundings he will shine but he is not the leader.
It's no excuse for him the same can be said for many players.
Sometimes signings don't work out players don't live up to fans expectations. Its not been a good signing for us. Not the 1st nor the last.


4.) 19 Feb 2021 10:24:34
Sorry Ken that is ridiculous to say he would play better in the right team / surroundings. Bruno manages to do it nearly every game. Jack Grealish manages to do it week in week out with players that are even worse at Villa. To me it say's he can't be bothered putting 100% in because he doesn't want to be at United. His heart has never been in it from the start.
The Pogba debate is a joke, he has been sh*t for 4 years now.


 

 

14 Feb 2021 18:28:35
Ole is hell-bent to play Maguire/ Lindelof together when he has got both Bailly/ Tuanzebe available. The same goes for Rashford/ Martial who get opportunities irrespective of how poorly they perform. It's almost like Ole wants to force them into form.

Cavani would be absolutely frustrated to be not getting any sort of decent service in the box. We constantly get into decent positions on the flanks to only pass it sideways or backwards most times.

Teams seem to have found out how to stop Fernandes by cutting out spaces in which he likes to operate and our other forward players like Rashford/ Martial are of not much help as they are not intelligent in their movement and they keep cutting inside instead of trying to stretch the defense and are static most times in forward positions.

With more action coming up in Europa league, it's going to be challenging on how he is going to rotate his squad. Much difficult times ahead.

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1.) 14 Feb 2021 18:38:38
Blood the youngsters in the EL. I fear Ole is too stubborn to do that. There is versatile financial gain going for a EL win other than it gets yiu a place in the CL.

We are currently 2nd. Our focus should be on the league.


2.) 14 Feb 2021 18:50:14
Mad Hatter

I do agree. Top 4 with financial gains in the process seems to be the minimum requirement for Ole to stay on the job. However, we are slowly losing our position in the table and if we continue dropping points, sooner or later we would end up in a dog fight to finish 4th.

We are still in with a chance to win something this season but we can only hope as our inconsistent performances on the pitch doesn't look encouraging.


 

 

 

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26 Feb 2021 09:47:38
Wazza it's PL experience I am talking about. How is Henderson a bigger risk? He's already shown that he's a much better all round keeper than DeGea.

Donnarumma might have huge experience as you say but the PL is a different thing all together. Watched some youtube highlights and he doesn't look much convincing with his handling and not sure if he commands his box well and is good in the air. He reminds me of DeGea with his shot stopping ability but some times seems to parry the ball into danger areas. He probably isn't ready for the PL and has lots to improve in my opinion.

Anyone seen enough of Donnarumma to suggest he is ready for the PL?

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26 Feb 2021 05:48:12
Grimslives so you think he's going to come to us? We already have Henderson who is 23, knows the PL and has experience under his belt. Why would anyone in their sane mind replace him for someone outside of the PL who is talented for sure but not guaranteed to succeed. It's a huge risk.

It's all just paper talk trying to prop up United in the headlines and probably he gets a improved contract in the process.

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19 Feb 2021 14:52:26
From the list only Pau Torres/ Benoît Badiashile are left footed CBs and exactly what we need.

Watched a few youtube videos of these players and not much convinced about Jules Kounde, he looks like a attacking CB who is probably more suited to a fluid attacking team. Both Pau Torres and Nikola Milenkovic look better options for us. Nikola Milenkovic reminds me of Vidic the way he plays, gets stuck into his opponent and is more aggressive than Torres.

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17 Feb 2021 14:42:57
Shappy so more of the same I guess. We can't be so generous of letting everyone have a crack at the job.

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17 Feb 2021 13:41:08
Ok Thanks Ed002.

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26 Feb 2021 14:27:54
Ole isn't brave enough that's why. It was a great chance to start the likes of Galbraith, Diallo and Shoretire and yet he goes for the safer options.

With the game against Chelsea coming up it was important he rested the likes of Fernandes, Wan Bissaka, James, Lindelof, Fred and Rashford to keep them fresh. But no he's probably too worried about losing a tie that's already done and dusted in the first leg.

Once again plays 2 CM in front of his defense and I am not really sure it is helping much at all.

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26 Feb 2021 05:37:14
Brad76 it would really be interesting for sure. We would look stupid if we decided to sell VDB in such a short time, first for buying him in the first place and second for not giving him opportunities and for having a manager who doesn't know how to use him.

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26 Feb 2021 05:03:33
Ed014 thanks but you probably need to appreciate Shappy's persistence to keep going with his replies.

Shappy individual errors on a regular basis isn't just down to the individual alone. There is no chance that the coaches don't see whether a player is prone to mistakes or not during training unless they are not good enough to notice that.

It's even more criminal if you know the player is not upto par and you still keep playing him even though both Bailly/ Tuanzebe are available on the bench and you play him because of his price tag or for whatever reason it maybe. And he's the captain as well when Bruno has been the best player on the pitch and leads by example.

The manager and coaching staff need to take responsibility for our defensive showing which has been shambolic at times.

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25 Feb 2021 18:33:25
Shappy so when individual errors happen consistently who takes the responsibility? What do you think the coaching staff are seeing and doing in training? Are they not aware of a player's abilities, weakness and how they perform in training and just let them get away in training?

If the coaching staff can't improve the players but are intent on playing them for whatever reason then the team needs to be coached to at least be more organized and play as a unit. I am really not seeing that especially defensively.

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25 Feb 2021 18:18:01
sim01975 I hope VDB is Pogba's replacement at the very least we would have a player who would be willing to work hard. And what do you expect a player coming in from another league and given irregular starts and playing time to do.

The simple fact is VDB is an intelligent player with great technical ability and he has shown glimpses of what he can do in the limited time he got. If you are expecting him to be flashy and play those hollywood passes to impress you then he isn't that sort of player.

I would agree that he needs to do a lot more in games but you can't just judge him based on his limited irregular playing time.

And if you want to talk about how we setup and play it's pretty evident Ole's priority is safety first and more protection for his CB's. In fact more worried about the opposition than taking the game to them.

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