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16 Jan 2020 15:19:19
Hi Ed002,
Are you able to confirm if United have made an approach to Lille for Soumare?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Boubakary Soumare (DM/CM) - Soumare is being touted around the clubs that have money to spend and several have spoken with Lille but want the €60M asking price reduced. His "agent" (and I use the term loosely) says the player has no interest in joining Spurs or Arsenal but his client is the ideal replacement for Pogba or Kante and is attracted by the money available to players in England. Valencia, Real Madrid and Napoli are others who have been looking at him on a regular basis - but price is an issue. Until the summer Manchester City had an interest since he was at PSG and it was suggested he could fill the role of Yaya Toure well. Monaco saw him as a Bakayoko replacement but have stepped back. Watford pressed Lille in the summer but they would not sell. Brands wanted him at Everton but was forced down the Gbamin route by an advisor. Newcastle and Leicester also showed some intert that went nowhere. Not first choice but RM are talking about an offer of €40M plus a loan back. Probably one for the summer unless someone plays well over the odds.}
1.) 16 Jan 2020 16:44:11
Thanks for the detailed reply Ed.
{Ed002's Note - You ae welcome.}
2.) 16 Jan 2020 17:16:59
Ed, I've not seen much of Soumare aside from a game or two. Do you feel he is a good prospect and which of the club's after him do you feel he would be best suited at?
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - He is well liked - whether or not he would fit in at MU is a different matter.}
3.) 16 Jan 2020 18:20:51
Amazing in depth reply Ed002, that is why we only look on here for news and not in the fiction media.
4.) 16 Jan 2020 19:53:10
Inhope
The op asked him to confirm if we have made an approach for Soumare.
He didn’t answer yes or no so I’m personally none the wiser to the question.
5.) 16 Jan 2020 21:19:16
Chorlton from his reply you should assume our 'interest' is nonsense.
6.) 17 Jan 2020 03:46:05
You are missing the point redwishkey. You may well be right and our interest is nonsense. However he does then go on to question if he would fit in at United so you may well be wrong. So back to my original point I’m none the wiser.
31 Jul 2019 20:09:55
So the latest is that everything is agreed and we’re just waiting on Dybala to say “yes”
Is it just me or does this whole thing scream of the headlines “Deal collapses as Dybala says no to Manchester United” 😂😂
The media would have a field day with that!
Surely we wouldn’t be discussing this deal if there was no indication from the player that he wanted to move to us.
1.) 31 Jul 2019 20:29:57
Seems set up for that to happen.
I'm still unsure on this Lukaku / Dybala swap, on one hand Lukuku wants to leave, Dybala is a fantastic player and a straight swap means we will have a Lukaku replacement. It also rules out the possibility of United's amateurish transfer processes being used as they would be if we got the cash and had to negotiate with a club for a replacement.
On the other hand does Dybala actually want to join? Physically he may well struggle and is this just a throw of the dice on an opportunity that happens to have come up rather than a well thought out signing?
Interesting week or so ahead with the potential for Maguire, Bruno and Dybala as well as potential outgoings.
2.) 31 Jul 2019 21:05:10
I agree and think everyone else has said the same.
Dybala is an amazing talent but it remains to be seen if he can settle and if he can handle the league.
He’s a naturally gifted player and I think with the way Ole is trying to set us up in attack should suit him.
I hope Martial is our number 9. If Dybala is signed he can cut inside from right and use his brilliant left foot and Rashford from the left using his right foot.
Add to that the potential signing of Bruno Fernandes supplying these three, it starts to look very tasty. On paper at least.
If we keep Pogba and do the above, we really have the makings of a great side.
30 Jul 2019 12:51:07
Hi Ed002,
Are you able to confirm if Dybala is signed by United and that is a big if, that united would pull out of any deal to sign Bruno Fernandes?
I hope that is not the case as I think that would be a big mistake but it does seem like a typical signing for United to make.
Thanks again.
{Ed002's Note - As I have explained that the priority MU has is for Fernandes and Maguire - that is what they are working on.}
1.) 30 Jul 2019 17:27:40
Thanks Ed.
I’m happy with that.
2.) 30 Jul 2019 20:53:54
Ed002 but sporting have denied the reports and said there is no agreement or even a bid from United?
{Ed002's Note - I have not said there is any agreement.}
3.) 30 Jul 2019 22:07:10
Thanx a lot Ed for swift reply.
29 Jul 2019 21:54:21
A lot of people now reporting that we are close to signing Maguire which sorts out our CB role.
It now remains to be seen if we can:
Sell Pogba and Lukaku. Possibly Darmian and Rojo too
Buy 2 CM’s - seemingly Bruno Fernandes and SMS
Sign a replacement for Lukaku
The next week or so will either be extremely exciting for the fans or very disappointing.
Does everyone think we will be able to get this business over the line in time?
On a separate note, I would like to wish Patrice Evra well and thank him for the wonderful memories. An amazing left back who dedicated a lot of his career to us.
Thank you!
1.) 29 Jul 2019 22:05:40
They are saying he has signed.
2.) 30 Jul 2019 00:58:13
Until he's pictured with a pen in his hand and he's signing the paper it's all BS
Even sky are not trusted.
Only place that's reliable is this site and all the pages associated with it.
3.) 30 Jul 2019 07:29:11
Personally, I think we are done in the transfer market. I can't see us signing anyone else before the window shuts because we can't offload the dross that we've got.
4.) 30 Jul 2019 08:08:30
Wanna bet, TopBomin?
5.) 30 Jul 2019 08:36:46
Ill give you £1000 if we don’t sign anybody else TopBomin.
6.) 30 Jul 2019 08:40:36
GDS2
Can I have a grand too if you are handing money out.
7.) 30 Jul 2019 09:16:11
I'd love to take that bet but I've always been a terrible gambler and so try to stay away from it.
I'm big enough to admit that I may be wrong but it's just a feeling that I've got. Clocks ticking.
8.) 30 Jul 2019 15:20:02
TopBodmin I think the exact same - too many players names being mentioned constantly and we haven't got rid of enough to make any signings.
More than happy to be wrong though!
9.) 30 Jul 2019 17:42:53
The final surprise of the window is. There is no surprise.
I know Woodie has pulled that one before, but I don't think he would dare.
Seriously though there is too much smoke for there not to be a fire somewhere.
Let's a chill. Que serai serai.
27 Jul 2019 16:31:15
Hi Ed002,
Do united have a specific target in mind to replace Lukaku if he leaves as Pepe is seemingly off to Arsenal?
I know that you mentioned Sancho was our first choice, that this won’t be happening and that we did look at Pepe after initially striking him off our list of targets.
I was just interested to know whether or not United have re-evaluated who they would like to bring in as a replacement.
Thanks again.
{Ed002's Note - Sancho is a RW so it is irrelevant, MU saw Pepe as a RW who could also replace RL - dumb. If RL leaves MU would be dumb not to replace him but may look to using Rashford. But right now RL is priced out of a move to Inter.}
1.) 27 Jul 2019 16:42:00
That is a bit worrying then Ed as I don’t think Rashford is well suited to playing the striker role. Martial is probably the better option.
I hope we do look to replace him.
{Ed002's Note - Martial will still be around as well.}
2.) 27 Jul 2019 17:15:59
I think Ole’s persistence in playing Rashford as the striker could hinder us in the long run. I’d love to be proven wrong though. Martial as the striker and Rashford out wide is my preference.
3.) 27 Jul 2019 17:37:11
How is rashford not suited to the striker role?
He was doing brilliantly there until he got his injury against liverpool under ole.
1.) Lightning pace
2.) Makes great runs in behind
3.) Very good link up play
4.) Physical attributes have improved a lot, bulked up impressively. Will help him in his hold up play and general back to goal play.
5.) most importantly his work rate will never ever be questioned, he will give his all at all times for this club.
More time spent with ole working on his finishing and sharpening up his instincts in the box and he will be a great striker for this club.
The idea of having him martial and greenwood as a front 3 and interchanging positions is promising.
As long as we can keep the only top quality chance creator we have had for years, i'm looking forward to next season.
4.) 27 Jul 2019 17:49:19
Don't forget Sanchez this new style of play will suit him a lot better he might just spring a surprise but for me its martial who should be our number 9 should never have lost it in the first place.
5.) 27 Jul 2019 18:11:45
I just can’t see Rashford scoring 20 plus goals a season in the league playing striker for us.
You generally need 1 of those to win a title.
Martial on the other hand has proven he’s a clinical finisher and is probably the better option upfront.
Greenwood should be given a few opportunities this season too.
6.) 27 Jul 2019 18:26:47
I think the pace around rashford will cause a lot of havoc and create a lot if chances for him and others.
7.) 28 Jul 2019 11:19:49
Rashford is better on the left he’s not a natural finisher.
Martial is the more natural finisher for me and doesn’t do enough on the left.
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29 Jan 2020 15:12:18
I know Ed tells us not to worry about the finance side of things but the reported fee of around £45m plus 15m in bonuses and wages of around £70k plus bonuses sounds like good business. Good business but far too late when you consider the state of our current squad.
It does make me think why other clubs were not pushing as hard us to sign him though.
It also makes you think what the negotiators were playing at when they decided to pay £80m for Maguire but have ironed out what looks to be a very decent deal on Bruno Fernandes.
I think he will be a bit and I’m excited to see him line up in our team.
1.) 29 Jan 2020 15:52:06
Every negotiation is different. Sporting have more of a need to sell than Leicester did. Plus there's the "English" tax to be paid on English players.
But financially if the details are correct then it looks like a good deal. Sensible compromise, lower initial fee, then the add ons split into two groups, one being easily achievable, the other a little less so.
2.) 30 Jan 2020 00:33:10
Think bruno was seen as a risk by the other big teams his one big weakness is that he gives away the ball a lot by trying high risk passes. along with the high press the last couple of years the biggest innovation in football has been the speed of transition from defence to attack losing the ball in attacking areas, leaves you really vulnerable against other top teams. it would be the only reason I can see why other top teams didn't really consider him.
That would be my opinion but seems to have just about everything else and looks a fine player.
20 Jan 2020 08:52:15
Maguire is able to do it for England and was able to do it for Leicester but the way we concede goals and set up to defend generally is awful.
We’ve bought in arguably the best header of the ball in the league (VVD probably pips him) and the best defensive right back in the league yet concede so many sloppy goals.
We were all worried about where are goals would come from when the season started and to an extent we have been proven right as we find it difficult to break down teams who sit back and we knew we would struggle if we had any major injuries. We have still done ok though with our attackers having some dips in form here and there.
The biggest contributing factor to our inconsistency has been our defence and this is the one area where Ole was backed. I’m not sure who is responsible for setting them up but whatever they’re doing is not working.
There are managers in the league who have set their teams up to be able to defend in an organised manner with so called lesser players. If we were not so incompetent in this department we would be in the top 4 for sure.
Are the board then right if they decide not to back Ole if the one area they did back him in, he can’t get right?
1.) 20 Jan 2020 09:48:04
The midfield is over run in most of the games due to the lack of a proper combative defensive midfielder.
This inturn exposes our CB's even more.
2.) 20 Jan 2020 10:53:36
I think that’s a factor and agree but we’ve been doing this all season.
The zonal marking at set pieces and playing offside come to mind the most and these can be rectified if we can organise the defence properly.
We don’t have the best midfield in the league but we definitely don’t have the worst.
As I said, other teams seem to be able to do it with “lesser players”.
3.) 20 Jan 2020 11:17:49
He never really did it for Leicester or England, just been massively overrated, same deficiencies in his defensive play now as he's had for the last 2/ 3 seasons. £80m down the drain. Need to sell him as soon as if we want improve at the back, though the club lacks ruthlessness throughout, no wonder the likes of Jones, Smalling and Young stayed here for 7/ 8yrs + and continue to do so.
4.) 20 Jan 2020 12:12:49
Sell him? He’s by far our best centre half.
5.) 20 Jan 2020 12:43:18
Sell him we only just bought him😂😂😂.
6.) 20 Jan 2020 12:44:10
Some have just lost their mind GDS2 :)
7.) 20 Jan 2020 13:04:09
I think saying he’s never been able to do it is really harsh.
As well as our selves, City were in for him albeit not at the crazy price we paid. When we paid for him, he was bringing qualities to club we did not have. Someone to help clear up long balls, clear up set pieces and someone who’s confident enough to step forward time to time and pass forwards.
It’s unfortunate that Tuanzebe has been injured as I think he’s our second best CB.
I don’t think we’ve really seen the best of him. I hope there’s more to come or we could be looking at another really expensive mistake.
8.) 20 Jan 2020 13:34:54
Amz how often have you seen tuanzebe play 90 mins?
He is still a way off the level reqired bailly if fit will jump ahead of him no doubt about it.
9.) 20 Jan 2020 13:35:38
He's by far our best centre half? That sums it all up then, forget he's made Lindelof worse aswell. What difference does it make if we just bought him Ken? He just isn't good enough and never will be, flog him whilst we can gain something back on the ridiculous fee we paid for him. Having the likes of Maguire, Shaw, Andreas, Lingard in the team will literally guarantee us not winning the league for another 10 years, same fans happy with Maguire are clamouring for Grealish, even seen someone on here mention Lewis DUNK🤣.
10.) 20 Jan 2020 15:57:00
Agree with Ken. Sometimes by not playing, a player seems to become better.
11.) 20 Jan 2020 16:33:00
Just from what I’ve seen when he has played Ken. He seems assured, quick and can tackle well. He doesn’t seem to cause any panic when he does play as one of the cb’s. Looks pretty decent on the ball too. I think Bailly is great but he can be a headless chicken at times and not always the most reliable. Lindelof is really struggling to adapt here and I would have Tuanzebe ahead of him for sure.
12.) 20 Jan 2020 17:04:55
I think he is a decent project but miles off starting weekly for us tbh.
Talk to any villa fan they will tell you he is well short of what's required just yet.
12 Jan 2020 10:02:19
When you play against city in the carabao cup and they put out their strongest side, you know you’re going places.
I had to double check this was a real quote 😂😂😂😂 sounds just like Moyes!
Delighted with the result either way. The links to Bruno Fernandes are interesting. I won’t believe anything until he’s holding up our shirt. If it does go through, then I hope he’s able to make the step up. Looks like there is a player there that could be brilliant for us.
Eriksen would have been ideal. It really is a shame when we can’t convince someone to move from Tottenham to Old Trafford. The show goes on! Anfield next. I fancy us 😊.
1.) 12 Jan 2020 10:32:16
I remember this happening to Jose, every interview swept through with a fine tooth comb to find something to abuse him for. Gets very boring.
2.) 12 Jan 2020 10:55:23
Be happy with the win for goodness sake.
3.) 12 Jan 2020 12:13:49
Amz do you actually watch players. Ericksen is way past his best. My gran moves quicker than him. Stay off the solvents.
4.) 12 Jan 2020 13:09:40
He does say some strange things though. I think it's a really daft thing to say as we're city's biggest rival and pep trys to win everything. It's a comment that doesn't even need making, all it highlights is how far we are behind city's strongest 11 when they play like they did the first half. This is not me bashing ole either I like how he's brought William's and Greenwood in and rashford and martial seem to have improved but his in game management at times is terrible and has cost us points this season. Now I just can't make my mind up whether we have improved or gone backwards.
5.) 12 Jan 2020 13:48:05
He needs a plan B aswell. When teams sit back and defend deep we struggle to break them down.
We do generally play some lovely football, but just not consistently.
Once the squad depth is improved with quality, it won't be long before we see a more consistent side.
My greatest fear is an injury to Martial and Rashford at the same time. Where will the goals come from? Too much to expect Greenwood to take over.
6.) 12 Jan 2020 12:54:31
Ole has done himself no favours coming out with that ridiculous statement to be honest its really embarrassing. Makes us sound like a league 2 side who are honoured that they've put a tidy team out against us. What's worse is Ederson and Aguero didn't even play so it wasn't their strongest team.
7.) 12 Jan 2020 15:53:19
Not a great statement, but not he worst either. Must be a good week for United if a comment by the manager in a post match interview is the worst thing that happened this week.
8.) 12 Jan 2020 18:20:41
Shappy
Not a great statement? It’s a shocking indictment of the managers mindset and that shows he operates at a much lower level than Manchester United.
9.) 12 Jan 2020 19:45:06
Lets do something guys.
For those who believe.
06 Jan 2020 18:42:22
I do not think we should be targeting a number 10 type midfielder.
We need to shape our style of play to suit a proper 433 as city and Liverpool do. I would prefer one specialist midfielder who’s able to sit back, break up play and dictate the tempo of the game. Someone who’s comfortable with both short and long passing.
I would like the other two midfielders to be proper box to box midfielders, comfortable in both defending and attacking and provide assists and goals with late runs. With one dropping back when the other attacks.
1.) 06 Jan 2020 19:59:52
Once OGS realises that all the top teams dominate the midfield we may start to see some progress. His initial success was predominantly based around a midfield 3 of Pogba, Herrera and Matic.
It's no coincidence in my opinion that once that midfield was broken up results have nosedived. I know Matic's legs have gone but imagine if that midfield had been available to us this season I think most would agree we'd be much higher up the league.
2.) 06 Jan 2020 20:11:24
We don't play 4 3 3 we are constantly playing 2 holding midfielders . we don't play a consistent system or way of playing.
I like ole I really do and I think most people would be happy if you could see a style.
Like maybe a few more signings and we would be ok but in reality we are not and ole is taking most of the crap for it for the previous managers and clubs failings.
3.) 06 Jan 2020 20:42:07
Bolger ole is taking the flack for his own failings.
4.) 06 Jan 2020 21:18:54
It's tough to play a system that requires 3 midfielders when we struggle to name three midfielders in the entire match day squad.
In our squad we have Pogba, Matic, Fred, McTominay and Andreas Pereira who could be played in a midfield three. Of which Pogba has been injured since the end of August, Matic has been injured for most of that time, while McTominay has had 3 weeks out injured, and is now out for the next 6-8 weeks.
Our injuries and lack of depth mean we almost have to play a 2 man midfield system.
5.) 06 Jan 2020 21:36:27
A system? That suggests there is a plan and a structure which no one can see. We could easily name 3 midfielders but that doesn’t fit the poor Ole has hasn’t been given what he needs story.
6.) 06 Jan 2020 21:44:48
dose not ole now injuries are part of the game. he knew what he was taking on. the troule is he could no believe he would get the job permanent and is now just happy to be a yes man.
7.) 06 Jan 2020 22:09:14
I think him persisting with Lingard as a number 10 rather than switching to a 433 shows his lack of tactics or coaching ability. Lack of signings should not be an excuse to implement a style of play, whatever that may be. We have seen other managers do this with lesser squads. If Ole’s preferred set up is 4231 then we should at least see some common patterns of play week in week out. At the moment we’re seeing an inability to penetrate and create clear cut chances.
It does feel as if the message to the players is “go out and have fun” which may have worked under Fergie sometimes but does not work these days as every team will set up with specific tactics and it is up to you to out think them or just be that good that you win with the quality on the pitch.
8.) 06 Jan 2020 22:46:09
Lingard plays in a midfield 3.
9.) 06 Jan 2020 23:56:57
ken that's pushing it.
10.) 07 Jan 2020 01:37:03
What is everyone on about?
He has a prefered formation 4231 has been used almost exclusively. In a few big games he has played 5 across the back. Which has worked well as a surprise.
His preferred style is attacking quickly and with pace. Pacey forwards that can stretch teams.
Where this has been exposed is when teams sit back and compress the space and do not allow our players in behind. At which point you need a spark, some magic. Martial or Rashford making something happen. More from midfield. A plan B striker from the bench. Goals from corners from your CBs. We have been seriously lacking in all 3.
We had had an inconsistent season. We have scored quite a lot of goals when you look at the table. We have conceded too many. We have drawn too many games.
Doom and gloom on here is crazy at the moment. It is like everyone has forgotten how thin our squad has been.
11.) 07 Jan 2020 04:49:11
Mata kept making a lot of off the ball runs forward and not even a single time were our midfielders able to pass to him.
That's the state of the midfield at the moment.
It's absolute poor planning from the decision makers.
12.) 07 Jan 2020 08:55:01
Dodgy. We most certainly do not attack with pace. Each player takes 5 touches before they release the ball sideways or backwards, almost like a rugby pattern. The ball is played out wide for our wingers to either run at someone and lose it or cross a ball into an empty box.
From a manager that was a quality striker, he doesn't pass on any of his knowledge to our attackers. We constantly look like a team that has never played together.
On paper we counter attack well but in theory we play well when the game is open. It's no surprise when the other 13 teams in the league sit back against us.
We've been playing the same team constantly and we look like strangers on the pitch. He has had 1 year in charge I'm still baffled watching the team. A competent manager would have implemented his ideas across to the team by now.
But maybe we are doing Ole a dis-service. Maybe he has implemented his style across to the team, maybe the players are carrying out his instructions to a tee, maybe he's just out of his depth.
13.) 07 Jan 2020 11:52:30
For starters he needs to give Fred a more disciplined role. For all I love his work ethic I think he's too much all over the shot.
I think him and Mctominay compliment each other well although I'd very much prefer Fred. I know different players.
We need a solid sitting midfielder who can break up play and get us on the counter.
14.) 07 Jan 2020 12:09:42
Ole brought in James, who is way up there in the league in terms of assists and goals - from wide - with pace.
AWB who has been very good at right back, he needs to add some more attacking threat- but I think he will get there.
Maguire has not yet reached the heights we hoped for. Dury is out. But let's give him a hkt more time to settle before we write him off.
Ole has not had chance to bring in anyone in CM. Maybe he was naive to think he could persuade PP to stay. Maybe the money men told him he had to keep him because valuation was not met. Either way, he would have to publically support someone who was going to be in the team.
I'm not quite sure who you think he should have played in place of some of the other players. Linders is way out of form. Andreas has improved, but needs more assists and goals. Mata, Matic legs have gone. Other young players possibly? But he has given them games in UEFA and cups.
We need a few more players of quality and this team would be in much better shape. Injuries have had an effect. The squad was thin to begin with.
Would you prefer that Jones played? He tried that once and it looks like never again! Good decision Ole!
15.) 07 Jan 2020 14:06:04
Dury"s been out for a long time, unfortunately. One for the older posters 😁.
16.) 07 Jan 2020 15:11:26
That gives me three reasons to be cheerful.
03 Jan 2020 04:25:23
Every poster on here is entitled to their opinion. The fact that the fan base is so split just shows how disoriented we are with the way our club is being run. What adds to the misery is the fact that our two biggest rivals, City and Liverpool are so far ahead. They’re also two clubs who have chopped and changed their managers until they have the right man, have a structure in place and a plan moving forward.
All the above adds to the anger and disappointment we are experiencing as loyal fans of this club.
I wanted to add that I was at the game on Wednesday and the so called top reds are far more toxic then fans who try to give balanced views and look at things at face value. They jump down peoples throats who try to criticise the manager, the tactics, even the board and blindly support the rubbish we have seen for a sustained period of time. They solely blame the players and nothing else. There is lots of examples around Europe where clubs have under performed until a good manager with the right idea has come in and changed things very quickly. This adds to the pressure that Ole is receiving because in comparison, he has done nothing to suggest we have an identity, a way of playing football.
We may not have a squad that’s title worthy or even top 4 worthy but we do have very talented players at our disposal. Players who have clearly been deprived of proper management and coaching in comparison to our rivals. Rashford and Martial should be much further ahead in their development. I would also argue that players like Lindelof, who was a sought after talent around Europe should be much further ahead in his development.
Fans, like myself come on here as it’s a platform which we can vent and write down our true feelings. The board do not really care what we want which is why, as many of you have alluded to, we do not have a proper structure, plan or coaching staff in place that is fit for our great club.
I fear deeply about the direction we are going in now. We’re not far off what Liverpool became after their period of dominance. What frustrates us the most, I believe, is the fact that we have money there to sort all of these issues out but it seems that the powers that be have other ideas in mind. We have wasted enormous amounts of money and have regressed. That is clear to see.
Whether we like it or not, we are stuck with Ole until he either magically becomes a pep or Klopp type manager over night. If not, he will take us further back and will be sacked as usual.
The latest loss has sparked more of an outrage as the loss was similar to ones we have had against much lesser teams. Devoid of ideas, tactics and players lacking confidence even though we have been on a decent run. There is outrage because in comparison to previous managers which we have sacked, he’s performing worse. A lot of our games against the top 6 clubs will now be away from home. I think we may now see the results against these clubs balance out. Of course as a fan I hope that I’m not right. I want nothing more than to be proved wrong.
1.) 03 Jan 2020 06:57:55
That’s a really good post Amz. I agree about the so called top reds. Criticise Solskjaer and you are called plastic or toxic. Some of the abuse they give the players is disgusting whilst absolving anything the manager does. You wonder what the agenda is tbh. Fanbase is more split than I can ever remember. It really isn’t nice at the moment.
2.) 03 Jan 2020 07:44:37
Klopp had a very rocky first 18 months at Liverpool. Had he taken over United he would have been sacked and called the failed Mainz manager by sections of the United fan base.
The fact is we aren't a loyal fan base. We turn on managers if the moment the team isn't winning.
There were even some fans who during the final years of Sir Alex said he needed to go and on occasion turned on him. One poster even blames him for our current owners.
So I can fully understand it when the Ed's label us toxic.
{Ed047's Note - is Klopp the same manager who smashed it with Dortmund up against the European power house of Bayern Munich or did he win some Norwegian League?
3.) 03 Jan 2020 08:56:22
How can you compare Ole to Klopp? As ed said, one beat Dortmund to the title twice and got to the CL final. It was always clear he was going to be a top manager. Ole’s credentials?
4.) 03 Jan 2020 08:58:37
The comparisons are embarrassing ed047.
Clutching at straws.
Senseless and ridiculas arguments that make are quite frankly becoming note and mite bizarre.
Toxic purple flip flop with their opinions all the time. Toxic is not having an opinions that disagree with the board.
{Ed047's Note - it’s ridiculous ken, OGS isn’t and never will be in the same league as Klopp.
If he were the manager of any other club you guys would literally be laughing your heads off and rejoicing he was still at the wheel.
Much like people were with Emery driving us nowhere fast.
5.) 03 Jan 2020 09:18:17
Ferguson does indeed deserve some of the blame for our current owners.
As soon as greed got the better of him regarding a racehorse and he decided to take on major shareholders he should have been reminded that his job was Manchester United manager and there was a conflict of interest .
6.) 03 Jan 2020 09:53:32
We must stick with Ole until we have a long term strategy in place.
Get a DoF and overhaul the recruitment team.
Else, it will be sack, rinse and repeat.
7.) 03 Jan 2020 09:17:31
Ed047 i took some time out a d read back over a couple of posters posts and the inconsistency and flip flopping is embarrassing. Essay after essay of complete inconsistency tweaking arguments with preposterous claims to fit the narrative of the day.
Absolute hogwash and all in the imagination. Most of the points are so far from reality its laughable.
Then we get posters who spent months even years trolling the previous manager who complain about redman being repetitive.
Its hilarious.
I love the double standards.
{Ed047's Note - you’re not wrong mate it’s getting ridiculous
8.) 03 Jan 2020 10:24:02
What dicey 18 months were these shappy? In his first season taking over in the middle of the season he guided them to a Europa final. The next season after 21 games he had them 3rd on the table level on points with 2nd placed Tottenham and 7 points behind leaders chelsea. That season after getting into top 4 after week 5, they were out out of top 4 only once in the entire season.
This misstating of klopp's record to make ole look good needs to stop.
9.) 03 Jan 2020 10:30:36
We must not!
10.) 03 Jan 2020 11:18:01
There is literally no comparison when it comes to Ole and Klopp.
Klopp has credentials and clearly had Liverpool playing decent enough football. They were a good team to watch the moment he joined.
How Ole enters the argument is quite baffling.
Klopp broke the dominance of Bayern spending nowhere near the amount they did and took Dortmund to a CL final, narrowly losing. This is after being relegated with Mainz and sticking to his philosophy.
Ole won a title in Norway, relegated Cardiff after wasting a lot of money on players he had connections with, went back to Norway, achieved nothing before coming to United. The team he left then went on to win the title.
Which manager deserves more time after 12-18 months?
I completely agree we are now a club that sacks, rinses and repeats. However, the calls for a DOF and a change in the recruitment department are falling on deaf ears. At this moment in time there is one thing that stands out and that is we have gone backwards under Ole.
11.) 03 Jan 2020 11:40:22
Correct amz that of course is fact. But but but but if but if but if if but if but.
12.) 03 Jan 2020 11:51:46
The double standards are ridiculous Ken. It’s as if you’re allowed to be repetitive because you’re Ole in, anything else is toxic and boring. Like I said earlier, I seem to remember The criticism of Jose was often very personal by some posters. He was character assassinated and there were personal attacks on him as a person. Yet people call Ole the ‘failed Cardiff manager’ and that’s outrageous? The vitriol Jose got was awful during the end of his reign that it became an agenda. Personally, I think the name calling of Ole is wrong and I don’t engage in it. But at least people should not have double standards.
13.) 03 Jan 2020 13:13:39
To be fair Park there is only a couple of posters like that.
I mean its very easy just to argue against points without giving an opinion.
You know the ones i mean the superior supporter the visionaries who is always right, changing the goalposts to suit their narrative. Its a little sad really.
They have the goal posts on wheels they shift them that often😂😂.
14.) 03 Jan 2020 13:48:38
Please divulge the examples of posts where posters here are personally attacking mourinho at your earliest convenience. I can only speak for myself but the only player or manager I have genuinely ever wanted out of the club is pogba and I will stand by that.
15.) 03 Jan 2020 15:57:53
Paranoia ross? Nobody talking about you.
16 Jan 2020 16:44:11
Thanks for the detailed reply Ed.
{Ed002's Note - You ae welcome.}
01 Aug 2019 12:27:01
Let’s hope he’s hungry for success.
31 Jul 2019 23:15:56
He’ll bring some bite to our midfield in the future.
31 Jul 2019 21:05:10
I agree and think everyone else has said the same.
Dybala is an amazing talent but it remains to be seen if he can settle and if he can handle the league.
He’s a naturally gifted player and I think with the way Ole is trying to set us up in attack should suit him.
I hope Martial is our number 9. If Dybala is signed he can cut inside from right and use his brilliant left foot and Rashford from the left using his right foot.
Add to that the potential signing of Bruno Fernandes supplying these three, it starts to look very tasty. On paper at least.
If we keep Pogba and do the above, we really have the makings of a great side.
31 Jul 2019 20:59:33
Those two deals seem to be separate of the Lukaku/ Dybala swap deal.
24 Jan 2020 13:21:29
I agree AJH. I had posted a couple things berating the manager and club a week or so ago but haven’t bothered since as everyone is pretty much saying the same thing.
Unfortunately it’s just a product of how everyone feels and what they see in front of them. People use this platform to vent as well as have a laugh.
I feel like I’ve vented enough now and do not want to waste any more energy. I don’t see much changing soon and until it does I’ll just go follow every match as normal. I find myself joining in the banter we get after every defeat now! One way to not be negative about it I guess.
20 Jan 2020 16:33:00
Just from what I’ve seen when he has played Ken. He seems assured, quick and can tackle well. He doesn’t seem to cause any panic when he does play as one of the cb’s. Looks pretty decent on the ball too. I think Bailly is great but he can be a headless chicken at times and not always the most reliable. Lindelof is really struggling to adapt here and I would have Tuanzebe ahead of him for sure.
20 Jan 2020 16:29:45
I think Barcelona, Madrid, Juve etc may play in leagues that have more smaller and technical players. You tend to see a lot more short corners from them than you would here in England.
You tend to get a lot of players who are tall and built well in our league whether they play up front or in defence and I think a bit of common sense needs to apply if we do want to stick with zonal marking.
Yesterday was an absolute joke. If the coaching staff suggested to mark VVD in that way then surely the players should step forward and give their input? Can you imagine if we had Rio and Vidic in the box and Fergie turns round and tells Evra your job is to block VVD or mark the zone he starts in? 😂😂😂😂
If we as fans can see it and pundits can see it then why can’t the coaches or players? It’s actual common sense. You let Maguire man mark VVD. We lose Williams or Fred in any defensive capacity if VVD practically runs through them like a bulldozer.
Joint with Villa and Norwich with most goals conceded from set plays. They’re two teams who have a real possibility of being relegated. Whatever we think we’re doing or working on needs to change. I think we should man mark if there is a specific danger in the box like a VVD. If there is no real threat then stick to zonal marking.
20 Jan 2020 13:04:09
I think saying he’s never been able to do it is really harsh.
As well as our selves, City were in for him albeit not at the crazy price we paid. When we paid for him, he was bringing qualities to club we did not have. Someone to help clear up long balls, clear up set pieces and someone who’s confident enough to step forward time to time and pass forwards.
It’s unfortunate that Tuanzebe has been injured as I think he’s our second best CB.
I don’t think we’ve really seen the best of him. I hope there’s more to come or we could be looking at another really expensive mistake.
20 Jan 2020 10:53:36
I think that’s a factor and agree but we’ve been doing this all season.
The zonal marking at set pieces and playing offside come to mind the most and these can be rectified if we can organise the defence properly.
We don’t have the best midfield in the league but we definitely don’t have the worst.
As I said, other teams seem to be able to do it with “lesser players”.