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29 Sep 2019 12:36:44
Lots of rumours around that Pogba wants £600,000 pw to stay!
I say he is taking the p*ss at his current salary. If that is the price we should not even try to keep him.
How much will he want next year!?


1.) 29 Sep 2019 13:58:32
He's pricing himself out of a new deal in order to force his way out of the club.
He wins either way, he either gets the move he wants or he gets paid more than three times what he's worth.

2.) 29 Sep 2019 14:54:13
Pogba wants out? What?

Surely we have to try and keep a player who doesn't want to be here.

At least it doesn't reflect in his performances 🙄🙄.

3.) 29 Sep 2019 15:34:11
The guy wants to leave, he wanted to leave two summers ago and he wanted to leave this summer just gone.

If the club are foolish enough to get into contract talks with him and his representatives then they are well within their right to pull the clubs pants down with exorbitant requests.

Let him see out this season as he's our only midfield player who can pass a football and then replace him next summer with other professional footballers who can pass a football.

4.) 29 Sep 2019 18:57:57
Who cares what he's paid. What matters most to me is that if he does stay then he should perform.

I would just get rid of him at the earliest possible time and get a really hard working/ super talented player like SMS or Niguez to replace him.

5.) 30 Sep 2019 00:51:00
Although I kind of agree. what makes you think SMS or Saul would want to come to United in this current state?
We used to be the number one choice for players coming to the PL. at this moment in time I’m not even sure we’re even in the top 5.

6.) 30 Sep 2019 05:37:11
Yeah replace Pogba with Saul Niguez.
It would immediately step up the quality of midfield.

If we can convince a player about a good project, they will probably join. However, we may have to offer higher wages to beat competition.

7.) 30 Sep 2019 11:58:40
I'd happily give Pogba a 600k a week contact.

100k basic with 500k performance related. Instantly solves his issues with consistency.

8.) 30 Sep 2019 13:23:35
Lol shappy that'd work! The way money has gone and the guarantees that players have before even setting foot on a pitch, restructuring deals like that would solve a lot of on field issues.

9.) 30 Sep 2019 13:49:38
Saul Niguez going to leave Atletico for Man Utd? is this some April fools prank or something.

Their lies a big problem with Man Utd fans, the delusion is really real.

10.) 30 Sep 2019 15:58:45
£5000 a week and you can have my 15 year old son. He has 3 goals and 4 assists in 2 games. He plays ACM and has an eye for goal and trys his hardest every game.

11.) 01 Oct 2019 23:00:58
Pogba is a really good player and if he had half decent midfielders and attackers with him we would get more out of him. I don't think his attitude is anything like it should be but I can imagine his mindset. Why am I wasting the best years of my professional life with a team whose players are just not good enough to be challenging for trophies when I could be with a really top top team. If we had better players and were competing every year to win the league and champions league do you really think he would want out? I don't.

12.) 02 Oct 2019 13:11:07
Pogba knew the clubs situation when he joined, the playing squad isn't dramatically different to the one he joined.

He might have wanted to move to Real Madrid or Barcelona but neither club valued him at the price being quoted.

So he had a choice, he could either stay at Juventus (a team that was winning Serie A every season and challenging in the UCL) or he could move to us, a team that hadn't challenged for the league in a few years and had even failed to qualify for the UCL twice out of the previous 4 seasons.

He chose to join us, no doubt because his agent sold him the move and the huge hike in wages.

He chose money over glory, now he saying he wants to move again to win titles. Yet I suspect he would have second thoughts if moving to Real Madrid, Barcelona or back to Juventus meant a significant drop in wages.

He wants to make as much money as he can, and fair play to him. But if that is his main motivation then he won't ever fulfil the potential he has.

Ronaldo earns huge wages, but he isn't driven by earning money. He wants to be the best and he wants to be remembered as one of the greatest of all time. He has maximised his talent. We need players who have the mentality that they want to be the best they can be, not earn the most they can.

13.) 02 Oct 2019 19:45:30
Shappy I agree with you about Pogba not maximising his potential but maybe he was promised that Utd would invest in top players and that's just not happened. It's odds on he will go to a Madrid or Juve sooner rather than later and he will get wages equal to or better than he is getting at Utd.

14.) 07 Oct 2019 14:09:52
Whether United invest in top players or not, if he was a top player with a good attitude he'd still put in a performance every week and show some leadership to the players around him , and maybe also tell his brother to shut up .



14 Aug 2019 13:23:39
Seen a few reports that Rojo's agent is at the training ground trying to arrange some sort of deal.
Also that Ole is possibly going to relegate Sanchez to the Reserves. Also reports that Ole really wants him gone from any influence on younger players even it means him going out on loan (Roma still interested) with us paying part of wages. Not ideal, but personally I think the time has come.
This may may well be a load of mushroom compost, but I thought I.


1.) 14 Aug 2019 14:33:11
Hopefully this is true. We need to get them gone.

2.) 14 Aug 2019 15:21:55
Are the reports of Sanchez and Greenwood falling out true?

3.) 14 Aug 2019 15:45:27
Rumours that Sanchez got into a fight with Greenwood at training, that clearly is not going to help him at all. I really want him out of the club, caused a lot of troubles and didn't give anything in return to the club.

4.) 14 Aug 2019 16:02:26
I saw reports that Sanchez got angry with Greenwood because he challenged him in training. If so, that's not the attitude you want to help breed confidence in the youth.

5.) 14 Aug 2019 17:06:03
I hope it is true as it sends a message through the squad. The rumour is we are offering to pay some of his wages but still nobody wants him, even on loan.

We also need DDG to sign a contract to follow up Marrial and Rashford doing so.

6.) 14 Aug 2019 17:34:29
I want him as far away from the club as possible, he is done and dusted, has offered nothing so far, how the heck did the club get into this situation idk, some people here don't think Ole has what it takes to make it but if he gets rid of Rojo, Sanchez and have us playing very entertaining footy, he may well be the one who takes us back to challening, early days but i do like how he is setting the team to play and our average age, that's very important most of these players will flourish in 2,3 years.

7.) 14 Aug 2019 21:32:20
Sanchez has the ability to be great, maybe just give him the number 10 role, I think he could pick the holes we need against clubs.

8.) 14 Aug 2019 22:39:06
Report from the sun so it's most likely not true at all.



02 Aug 2019 21:17:11
Di Marzio apparently now (last hour) that Dybala deal now agreed apart from image rights and payment plan.
Toes, fingers and eyes crossed!


1.) 02 Aug 2019 21:33:01
"And eyes crossed", made me laugh mate. Maybe it's the beers? Agreed though, Dybala behind Rash or Tony would work very well.

2.) 03 Aug 2019 06:19:10
I haven't felt this since optimistic since 2004 when we signed Rooney, Heinze, Smudge and Pique.
Damn you Manchester United, you have made me get excited about transfers again.

{Ed0333's Note - who have you signed to get all giddy about Grim?

3.) 03 Aug 2019 06:23:31
If we sign Bruno, we can play 4-3-3 with Dybala on the right, buy even if Ole still use 4-2-3-1 Dybala can again play on the right, cutting inside and free AWB.

4.) 03 Aug 2019 06:49:52
No Grim. I was also excited when we signed Herrera Shaw di Maria blind Rojo Falcao in 2014 window. 😁.

5.) 03 Aug 2019 07:17:00
I wish use would all stop being so gullible were not getting Bruno fernandes or Paulo dybala
OLE said he hopes to have 1 or 2 new faces those new faces are Maguire and Mandcuikic and that's it.

6.) 03 Aug 2019 09:06:22
So we've tracked fernandes all summer which has been confirmed by eds were in talks for dybala as reported everywhere but you chose to believe that were getting Mandzukic which has just been reported in the last day which would presumably only happen should lukaku leave. Negative much?

7.) 03 Aug 2019 09:26:51
Scottronaldo73, of course Ole would say that he expects 1-2, he won't say "yeah we are working on exactly 5 new ones". Never take manager's word for granted. I think Bruno was a target, Dybala and Mandzukic were late and unexpected opportunities.

8.) 03 Aug 2019 09:34:06
Exactly manduikic hasn't been mentioned at all now all of a sudden sky are putting forward the charm offensive of " we've always liked him" and would be" a great option " someone from United has leaked this so that when we don't get dybala he's our fall back option if I'm wrong I'll be the first to come on and say I was wrong
The tweet use are all excited about fernandes was from 5 days ago from Nicolo schira a lots happened since then.
I've been a supporter long enough to know when I'm getting the wool, pulled over my eyes.

9.) 03 Aug 2019 09:44:44

You’re funny pal, every post is the same negative rubbish, why not offer a little balance? We’ve signed 3 players so far, all improve positions we need, the other 3 players we are linked with also improve the first 11, hopefully we can get one of them over the line. You’ll be one of them complaining the Glazers don’t spend your money when we spend £200m this summer as well.

10.) 03 Aug 2019 09:47:43
Scottronaldo, you and Jaime should go on a date, you’re made for each other.

11.) 03 Aug 2019 10:17:16
GDS Your right about the 3 signings we have made they improve our first 11 definitely and hopefully the youngsters take their chances when they come to them because I think they could be a special crop I really do. BUT every year we get a player mentioned all summer like a Schneider, gaitan, perisic, and it never happens I think fernandes is this years.
I'm willing to eat a huge slice of humble pie if I'm wrong and no matter what happens or who comes I will still be getting behind the team come 11 August through thick and thin. We deserve a board that's as loyal and dedicated as our fans deserve .
AJH I'm happily married man lol.

12.) 03 Aug 2019 10:32:40
Yeah, I saw the "we've always wanted him" about Mandzukic, but I think they meant that we were looking at him for a couple of years, not just this summer. I think it's normal. And we need to have a heavy striker like him if Lukaku leaves. Enjoy the end of the window as we'll have James, AWB, Maguire, Dybala, Fernandes and Mandzukic
:D Cheers GGMU!

13.) 03 Aug 2019 10:56:21
I don't get this Madzukic talk, he's 33 and only managed 10 goals per season playing for an incredibly dominant Juventus team. Seems like a complete waste of money and I don't see it happening at all.

14.) 03 Aug 2019 11:29:07
Scott, we do get linked with players every year and some seem to slip through our grasp. What we don’t really know is which ones are high priority, how much we want a certain player, or how far apart we are in valuation. I do share the frustration that it seems to take us forever. Perhaps it’s balancing the ins and outs or perhaps were just crap at it.

15.) 03 Aug 2019 11:32:39
Scott, we get linked to everyone by everyone. That's the way it's been since time. You're then upset because we don't sign them?

16.) 03 Aug 2019 18:18:29
Starting to doubt di Marzio, he seems to be covering all bases with his comments.

17.) 03 Aug 2019 18:21:01
Mandzukic is underrated. He fits a high pressing system well. He's not prolific but he offers other attributes. Also he brings experience which we lack but his age won't block Marcus or Mason.



30 Jan 2019 09:33:11
What's news?
We know which players need moving on.
Youngsters make mistakes.
No team wins every match.
Sometimes decisions go against us.
Stuff happens. Let's get over it.
Team still playing united way, sees games out and fights back from difficult circumstances with style.
Back behind Ole for the next game, the future is bright. We are once again seen as the real MU. Others are getting worried. Great to see.


1.) 30 Jan 2019 10:56:29
Good post DW.



03 Jan 2019 14:49:04
League wise we are still underdogs. But we are now playing (not withstanding the well known weak points in our squad) with real united style. Chelsea and Arsenal now looking nervously over their shoulders - it's a good feeling. Get at least a point from spurs and the rest of the season holds really good possibilities. Chalk and cheese compared with only a couple of weeks ago.
However thing pan out we owe OGS a real debt of gratitude and proving that whatever the reasons, our squad is far better quality than Jose allowed them to be.


1.) 03 Jan 2019 17:15:18
We are definitely underdogs for the league, Liverpool have quite the head start on us.

{Ed025's Note - absolute non-hopers rather than underdogs i would say DB, that ship has well sailed im afraid mate..

2.) 03 Jan 2019 23:55:54
Meant underdogs for top 4 not the title!

3.) 04 Jan 2019 02:48:11
16 points?
We’ve run down similar leads before :)
Though not with this squad.




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29 May 2022 17:47:18
! Rangnick gone. Board cannot stand anyone speaking truth to power and decide to shoot the messenger.

Just when he was about to start consultancy and use his well proven talents.

Nothing has, inherently changed
Board get rid of someone who threatened them and player power is fully restored.

I wish ETH well but his job has just been made far more difficult.


1.) 29 May 2022 18:14:29
I'm not convinced EtH wanted him around. If it is EtH who pushed for him to go then I think we should all support it.

Once Ralf took the Austrian job it seemed everything was changing. Whenever EtH was asked about Ralf the responses were strange.

2.) 29 May 2022 19:32:37
I would not be surprised if EtH didn't want a guy around who was an ex manager of this team who would be potentially influencing the board away from his wants.

3.) 29 May 2022 19:57:10
Think the writing was on the wall after EtH's press conference.

{Ed014's Note - what did he say?



07 May 2022 19:58:17
I have not been active on here for a while as I get my weekly excitement fix down at the local park at no cost but I have lurked on this site just silently hoping.
I have no real ties with Manchester but united has been "my team " for 65 +years based on the style of play or sheer dogged persistent never say die attitude.
This team should hide their heads in shame.
They certainly make me ashamed to support
them. (there. I have said it)
Up with this I will not put.
I am to old now to start all over again. I doubt that this club will rise like a Phoenix from the ashes during my lifetime.
Support another club? No can do, but I will find time to watch football that is a joy to behold even it is played by teams whose names are anathema on this site.


1.) 07 May 2022 20:32:21
Weekly fix down the park? Never been into dogging myself.

2.) 07 May 2022 20:49:57
These players find new depths of embarrassment, they can't come back from this they really can't. A turtle puts in more effort, so does a panda. so does a sloth.

Ten hag has no chance, unless every single players is sold United are finished. Said it many times but they are a disgrace, simply not fit to wear the shirt. Today was lower depths of shame, all of them.



06 Feb 2022 16:17:00
For overpaying, Obsession with collecting primadonnas. No pride or sustained effort from said employees (I refrain from calling them players)
Poor club management repeatedly making the same old mistakes.
Even with recent changes the reigns seems to be firmly on RR.
Overall, is there a worse club in the league?


1.) 06 Feb 2022 20:10:56
Jesus, yes plenty. I accept things aren’t great but talk about hyperbole.

2.) 06 Feb 2022 20:38:40
Plenty worse.

3.) 07 Feb 2022 10:23:34
We are 4th, so 15 worse at the moment.

4.) 07 Feb 2022 14:21:51
That was a typo rather than my lack of maths ability ? 16.

5.) 07 Feb 2022 17:05:43

6.) 07 Feb 2022 19:41:33
Newcastle? Owned by genocidal, journalist murdering, homophobic, misogynist slavers.



29 Dec 2021 07:32:58
Some of you will know that some year and a half ago I largely quit watching united in favour of amateur teams at the local park.

I have watched a few United games recently (or at least as much as I could stomach) and it causes me pain having supported for over 50 years. On deep reflection after the Norwich and Newcastle games I have concluded that it is time to stop this self abuse.

I have realised that this team have not only succeeded in killing all joy in watching them but also all professional soccer.

Enough is enough and I have tolerated absolute garbage for too long.
Respects to those who manage to still see light at the end of the tunnel but it is a final, never to return farewell from me.

At the age of 76 I intend to enjoy the rest of life.


{Ed014's Note - take care fella and stay safe!

1.) 29 Dec 2021 08:05:53
Thanks Ed.

{Ed014's Note - you’re welcome

2.) 29 Dec 2021 08:54:16
DW20, a lot of us share the same views. Like you, I have seen Best, Charlton, Law play unbelievable football, I've seen the rubbish that followed (Tommy Docherty apart), and then the fergie era.

I saw United get relegated and I was there when Denis Law backheeled to put the nail in our coffin. That season, despite United struggling and getting relegated, the team still tried its hardest.

What annoys me about this lot of overpaid, overhyped, arrogant and ungrateful idiots, is how little they care for the club and the fans. They are already moaning about training methods as the new manager us rightly demanding more effort from them. They are putting listless performances that defies their not inconsiderable talent.

We have Ronaldo and Bruno throwing their arms up in the air, Greenwood making noises about not being picked every game, Rashford doing more work off the pitch than on it. Then we have the three idiots, lingard, Pogba and Martial, all very talented individuals, but non of them want to be at the club or put the effort to force their way into the team.

Football has changed, but clubs like Liverpool, City, Chelsea have moved with the times and installed systems and management to ensure the players remain focused and connected. United have ignored this for years and now we're seeing the fallout from it.

Hope things change, I have faith in Rangnick and the choice of the next manager (Ten Haag hopefully) to galvanise this club, put some pride back into the shirt.

Don't turn your back on United, football goes in cycles, and our club and team will overcome this and make us proud again.

3.) 29 Dec 2021 09:04:04

I know what you mean, after 53 years of supporting I felt like that under Ole because it felt like they didn’t have a clue what they were doing and it was just sentimental.

Right now I want to see what Ralf does with the team and with the structure in the background before hanging up my supporting boots.

At 76 mind you you are a few years older than me but I understand where you are coming from. All the best and enjoy your time filling it with what makes you happy.

4.) 29 Dec 2021 09:30:41
Im also from the Best, Law Charlton era. Bringing in RR seemed a good move, he certainly talks the talk, so let's see where we are in 6 months.

We will always be linked in the press with the 100 mil players -Haaland, Rice etc etc - is it time to back RR if there is truth he likes players like Kessie, Kamara, Hadrida, Tyler Adams and Neves ( at 40 mill )? All are hard working and know importance of keeping the ball

I saw Jared Bowen of WHU get MOM again yesterday and Klopp is supposedly a huge admirer - the lad is Tevez like in his chasing and closing down with an eye for goal-came from Hull for 20 mill and he said he can't do half of what he does without the hard work of his team mates and that they buy into Moyes vision of hard work first and simply doing your job. The lad is living the dream PL football in an attacking team.
Our lads even the young ones may have the skills but not the work rate just a sense of having made it already.

Maybe a sprinkling of lesser known grafters who can do the basics and are willing to learn is the way forward.

5.) 29 Dec 2021 09:31:24
Life’s too short to do stuff that makes you miserable. This team is miserable right now. Well done on supporting local amateur/ lower league clubs that frankly need the cash to survive!

6.) 29 Dec 2021 09:51:50
I enjoyed watching amateur/ semi pro football and the quality is very high. If you add in that you can usually get a beer and a burger/ pie at a decent price too I can see the appeal. My 2nd team was always ipswich wanderers when I lived down south, great friendly club albeit not overly successful. I know what people mean and watching players have tantrums on the pitch when not even getting the basics right is pretty soul destroying to watch.

7.) 29 Dec 2021 10:54:44
Will people STOP saying Denis got us relegated? Put the last nail in the coffin or whatever. We were going down regardless! !

8.) 29 Dec 2021 13:17:46
I was at OT in 74 against City and Denis backheeled it in. Where in the ground were you? I was in K stand

Technically we were not relegated until the next game I recall.

9.) 29 Dec 2021 15:02:39
I posted on another thread I've pretty much had nough with top level football period.

Its tough to let ot go but I haven't really enjoyed it for a long time, and I've been following United for almost 50 years.

The soul has gone, it's just about money, too much cheating, play acting and time wasting.

10.) 29 Dec 2021 16:35:35
So Denis didn’t get us relegated Red Man. Not difficult is it?
If you need to know (can’t think why) I was in Nottingham.

11.) 29 Dec 2021 17:38:14
Thank you all for understanding even if you cannot endorse my conclusions and action.
I will miss you all, but not the current state of the club and its football.
Cheers guys.

12.) 29 Dec 2021 19:05:41
Red Man, I was in Stretford end that year but moved to G stand after as I wanted to see the game easier! But I missed the noise from SE so I moved back. My son has the tickets as I live abroad now.

Patrik I wasn't having a go at Denis Law, he was and will always be a United legend. But, the goal Denis scored didn't matter as Birmingham beat Norwich (I think) and that ensured their survival, so even if United had not lost against City, we would still have got relegated.

13.) 29 Dec 2021 20:49:07
Correct AAA. It’s just that given Denis’s present circumstances I feel that the actuality of what his goal did needs to be put to bed. Much appreciate your reply.

14.) 29 Dec 2021 22:23:33
My Dad took me to Utd and started me out in K Stand until I got big enough and old enough to handle the Stretford End. Good times.



24 Nov 2021 13:58:11
Just wondering after last night.
Carrick under Ole has taken quite a bit of stick not least on here.
Could it be that he is actually quite good but has just not been listened to by "I believe in myself" Ole?


1.) 24 Nov 2021 15:13:04
Ole while "believing" in himself never stuck me as a dictator who would run roughshod over his assistants and coaches.

I remember one of the gripes about Ole on here was that he would talk through every decision with one of his coaches on the sideline before taking action.

Last night we got a good result without playing well. We set up and played like did under Ole. The players maybe gave an extra 10% maybe for that new manager bounce.

Maybe Carrick will become a top manager, maybe he won't. But we learned nothing last night. To be fair in 48 hours there wouldn't have been much time to work on anything new.

2.) 24 Nov 2021 15:17:00
they are all poor none of them are good enough to be taking UNITED forward.

3.) 24 Nov 2021 15:42:30
Shappy, I don't believe that Ole would ride rough shod over anyone but I do believe he is capable of listening to advice, even good advice and ignoring it which He, as ultimate manager was perfectly entitled to do.
I was merely suggesting that Carrick, whilst thoroughly loyal, might not have been agreement with tactics.

4.) 24 Nov 2021 17:21:14
Its quite simple actually. The big players wanted Ole gone. Now that he is gone, they will automatically try that bit harder knowing full well that Carrick isn't the long term option and they now need to play to salvage the season as much as they can. The problem was Ole.




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07 Jun 2023 18:50:37
If true it will improve two clubs in one move.




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11 Nov 2021 10:46:31
Would I be surprised if it were true? NO
Do I think it actually happened? Probably not.

Frankly it sounds like one of those stories/ jokes that get so widely spread they eventually are passed on as true. Much like so many transfer and football "news"




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02 Nov 2021 08:12:19
Nice bloke. Ole mk2.




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24 Jul 2021 17:43:54
Just the amateurs way of making sure he doesn't leave on a free next year.
Probably don't know it only works for players.




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04 Oct 2020 07:00:43
Cavani probably = Sanchez Mk2.





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05 Apr 2024 11:33:08
Getting rid of many of these players and predominantly bringing youth is probably the best use of any transfer budget we may have.
Ten Hag? Not perfect, but who is.
I think he has suffered more than the fans as a result of this bag of moronic self serving gits.




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17 May 2023 19:12:51
If Sir Jim Rat is really a ManU supporter he would walk away and leave the Glazers without any really viable option but dance to Jassim's music - assuming the 4 siblings are adamant about cashing out.




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13 May 2023 08:31:58
Hopeful but not confident.
It could be grim, Grim.




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03 Jun 2022 07:16:33
Forget football for one moment.

If I lived in sunny Barcelona and was settled into a dream job and new home, I would really take some convincing to move to anywhere in UK.
If my employer suddenly tells that they are going to dispense with my services because they can't afford to pay me it would focus the mind.
There is no similar company in Barcelona and some one in Manchester offers a job then somewhat reluctantly I will listen even if the only sunshine comes from people's backsides and the only tan I will get is from standing out in the rain and going rusty.
If I find the new boss really values me and the firm has real prospects I will soon feel more than gratitude.
However, I would initially I feel miffed and backed into a corner and yes, like FdJ I would need quite a bit of convincing.




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07 May 2022 20:08:49
Forget about another game. Let them pack their bags now and go.