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10 Aug 2019 09:34:14
I have been very negative about this transfer window. Maybe because of all the hype about how this window would be the most important.

Well! The window was not good enough but i am still excited about the season. Although i think we are putting too much serious pressure on youth and being very reliant on them, i hope they come out very strong and give their best performance. I hope we suffer minor to no injuries as we are very light. It would be great.

If Ole is able to instil his attacking, high pressing game play and this team does not become a victim of fatigue then we may well finish inside the top 4.

Hoping all the best for the new season and hoping for a good performance and a win tomorrow.


1.) 10 Aug 2019 10:22:14
That's better stressda😂😂😂.


2.) 10 Aug 2019 10:48:22
I think we will start well and positively but will fade later in the season. Everyone is looking to Greenwood as the potential star, however, I wonder if Garner maybe the one who also surprises us in midfield.


3.) 10 Aug 2019 11:10:45
Hes a good little player red man. Would also be nice to see him getting game time. We will need extra bodies in there.


4.) 10 Aug 2019 11:59:00
I think Garner, whilst not maybe providing the excitement of an attacker like Greenwood, might be the one who makes it to the very top. Very mature player, reads the game well, and has an eye for goal. I rarely hype up any young players - got my fingers burnt with Januzaj - but I think Garner is the real deal. With Greenwood and Gomes not far behind.


5.) 10 Aug 2019 12:45:50
Much better stresser 😂 just take each game as it comes, you will drive yourself insane worrying about something you can’t control. Like when I bury my head in the sand while my Mrs is out shopping with the “joint account” card.


6.) 10 Aug 2019 12:56:29
Maybe Ole is going to give some youngsters game time, which is why players like Matic and Young will be invaluable squad members. I’d we do play Greenwood, Chong, Gomes, Garner, we need some wise old heads to help them adapt.


7.) 10 Aug 2019 13:52:42
Yeah I think we all got wound up with the deadline. We are light in midfield and possibly upfront. Its a lot of pressure to put on a load of players who are teens an in the early 20s. We're all anxious. All we can do is get on with it.


8.) 10 Aug 2019 15:35:16
As well as Garner, I've been impressed with Ethan Galbraith in the under 23's but maybe one to come through next year.


9.) 10 Aug 2019 18:08:36
Nou I have greenwood, garner then Gomes. But what a trio whatever you put it.


10.) 10 Aug 2019 19:49:03
Young players need time and games, and I hope a couple of them get it .
Greenwood and gomes would be my shout.
The thing is the first time we lose a game the site will go in to melt down shouting for x y z .
Ole, the team the youngster I don't think can really judge until after xmas. But unfortunately they will get judged on a game by game basis.


11.) 10 Aug 2019 22:47:32
That's what I'm worried about jred. I just hope the young lads are strong enough to handle it.


12.) 10 Aug 2019 23:18:39
Angel
It's not just the young lads on the site the older ones are just as bad ;)


13.) 10 Aug 2019 23:32:09
Let's hope they don't start calling for the head of Manager like they did the last one eh ;)


14.) 11 Aug 2019 01:01:07
If you were a young lad playing your first games for your dream club United would you be listening to what’s said on social media or listening to coaches and teammates?

I know what I’d be doing.


15.) 11 Aug 2019 04:45:27
Angle Redman already wants him sacked .
I'm sure most will give him time tho.


16.) 11 Aug 2019 07:46:04
Give him time, there will be plenty more. just like the last one.


17.) 11 Aug 2019 09:22:47
Lots of times people throw double standards around, yet at the same time suggest giving OGS more time than the last three managers. Why is that? The emotional sentimentality of a playing legend being in charge. But that isn’t double standards of course, its just because they love Ole. He is a legend to me, but a playing legend who has done nothing to deserve the managerial position. I doubt they would have appointed him if they had waited to the end of the season and the relegation form that was on display. He should be judged the same as the other managers were.

Today, I support the team as I always have, wish I could be there like I was for decades but I can’t. Get behind the team, wear green and gold and what will be will be, like we sang in 77.


18.) 11 Aug 2019 09:58:14
Or maybe more fans have woken up to the real problems at the club and realised that most if it isn't down to the managers.


19.) 11 Aug 2019 10:12:47
Mort

My position on the strategic issues with the owners, the debt, the structure of the club has been aired on here regularly. The lack of success isn’t just down to the manager, we had one of the best in Mourinho yet they didn’t support him (and it cost us £20m more to sign Maguire a year later) and if he couldn’t succeed it tells you something is inherently wrong. However, that doesn’t make the present manager the right one. However he is in place so we support the team and get on with it.


20.) 11 Aug 2019 11:52:31
Give him more time than the last three managers? Who's been saying that? I think the general consensus is, like with all managers, a bare minimum of two transfer windows at the very least is required. Haven't seen anyone say he deserves more than Jose got. But I have seen a couple on here want him gone before a ball was kicked.


21.) 11 Aug 2019 12:50:40
Who said give him more time? But shouting for him to be sacked already seems a bit harsh.


22.) 11 Aug 2019 14:08:53
Managers have not been the biggest issue for the last 6 years.


23.) 11 Aug 2019 15:08:41
Ken

The biggest issue at the club was the leveraged buy out. Then the lack of any strategy or plan to replace SAF.


24.) 11 Aug 2019 18:34:28
Manager looks a breath of fresh air,


 

 

09 Aug 2019 18:20:04
So according to Ole, signing a forward would have blocked Greenwood.

Well! Then why were the team in continuous negotiation for Dybala and Mandzukic?

Another lame excuse for failed window. I mean which team looking to improve on climb the table sells their best proven goal scorer, second best and most hardworking midfielder and replaces with no one.

Strengthening defence does not mean we can ignore the ongoing attack problem.


1.) 09 Aug 2019 18:50:08
You’re too late Stressha, all of these posts have been done now.

Roll on Sunday!


2.) 09 Aug 2019 19:55:39
It would have been far better to see the manager come out and criticise the board and his bosses wouldn't it? Would have been ideal prep for Sunday to say the day after the transfer window has closed to say he's really not happy with the squad he has.

Undoubtedly things are hardly in perfect working order behind the scenes at United but some of the reactions to this transfer window have been laughable.


3.) 09 Aug 2019 22:42:46
You ever thought it may not be true that they were after these players.


4.) 09 Aug 2019 22:51:13
Sees tha were they in for these players?
Because you read it in the Daily Mail or on Sky sports?
Really?


5.) 10 Aug 2019 03:43:24
How about you guys ask Ed002. Ha?


6.) 10 Aug 2019 07:40:19
@Srestha. "I mean which team looking to improve on climb the table sells their best proven goal scorer".

I'd hazard a guess the team that got fed up with a player who is stacking on the lard on a daily basis and has to be separated from colleagues being aggressive itching for a fight and finally fronting up to M Phelan after being late for a pre season match and missing the bus. The last incident OGS saw as the final straw. Conte is no push over and it will be interesting to see how long it is before lardy bloke falls out with him.


7.) 10 Aug 2019 08:00:34
Even the stories suggested Juventus offered those players to us, not the other way round. Plus Dybala would have likely played as the 10, not the main striker. Making a meal from nothing. I'm glad Greenwood is getting a look in, hopefully Chong, Tuanzebe and Gomes get a few games too.


8.) 10 Aug 2019 08:09:22
This is the diary of football as there's so many ways to interpret the game. However I’m not sure Lukaku was the best at anything and I’m delighted he’s gone as he was clearly causing trouble.


9.) 10 Aug 2019 11:45:02
He was the best at scoring goals at the club, highest scoring attacker both seasons he played.

We have been to, d that the club was looking to replace him, but were more concerned with getting an extra few million than giving themselves enough time to do it.

Now the manager is putting pressure on a 17 year old with basically no experience at the top level by claiming he’s the replacement.


 

 

04 Jun 2019 12:46:52
I am pretty sure Pogba will end up in Juve this summer. So that makes two of our best midfielders leaving in same window.

We already are in need of two midfielders and now will need to replace Pogba and Herrera both. This summer will be tougher than ever.


1.) 04 Jun 2019 13:31:43
Pogba can't see it, we bought him for 90 mil. Was it, with inflation and for us to make money and not look like clowns again, we surely would want up in 150 mil. For him.
Will juve pay that, now they might look to offload a few players in the deal they want rid of, are we going to take them, can't see it happening.
Don't think any side will pay the money we want, and we have to put a big transfer fee on him.


2.) 04 Jun 2019 13:58:44
Fair point Leahy but it looks like they very much want Pogba. Apparenly dybala is unhappy in the current juve style built around Ronaldo. They might sell Dybala to make some cash for Pogba.

People might question Pogba's mentality but he is among the very few quality player we have. I would not sell him personally but if he wants to go, it has to be a big fee. Many clubs have ripped us in the market and this time we should be no less.


3.) 04 Jun 2019 14:42:02
Pogba is our most talent midfielder without a doubt. Yet he is the bad apple that is spoiling the other fruit in the bowl.

He needs to leave this summer, he doesn't want to be here and despite being our best midfielder he has been inconsistent at best. If we can get a large fee for him then great. But we took a hit on Di Maria, and we might have to do it again. We may need to factor in a swap or part exchange if a player we want is available in such a deal to save face.


4.) 04 Jun 2019 15:26:33
There is no other fruit in the bowl to spoil, unless pogbas is influencing chris smalling into not learning how to pass a football or ashely young to not be able to cross.


5.) 04 Jun 2019 16:55:34
DSG, Pogba is not the only footballer we have at the club. Now he might cause problems but he isn't actually responsible for making our other players poor.

However, his attitude can leech into other players. Maybe Rashford's supposed recently speculated poor attitude has been influenced by Pogba. When he broke through and up until the end of last season everything about his attitude was positive, hard working, a dedicated footballer who loves the game and the club. Now supposedly poor trainer who is being distracted by off field interests and has a growing ego.

Now we don't know if any of this is true, he might have always been a poor trainer, or he might be a great trainer and the reports are false. If he has developed a poor attitude that may or may not have happened with Pogba influencing him or not.

But when you have young impressionable lads coming into the first team they often look around a dressing room for people to look up to and imitate. They often don't have the experience to pick the most suitable person to look up to, but often pick the loudest, most outspoken, the one they think is cool. Pogba would count as that player in our squad.

We also currently the have an excellent bunch of youngsters about to break into the squad. Greenwood, Gomes, Chong, Garner, Tuanzebe. Etc. We also have young players such as Rashford, McTominay, Martial, Shaw, Andreas Pereira and Dalot. Who could be influenced by a strong personality.

Lots of potential fruit to spoil.


6.) 04 Jun 2019 17:07:13
What other fruit? What bowel?


7.) 04 Jun 2019 17:16:03
I know Pogba can be blamed for a few things, but causing an alleged outbreak of attitude in Rashford might be stretching it a little, Shaps 😁.


8.) 04 Jun 2019 18:28:32
Stevie, not being ageist but how long has it been since you were young and impressional?

Having recently starting University as a mature student and as such having to spend far too much time surrounded by 18, 19 and 20 year olds I can tell you their attitude is starting to develop at that age and they are very easily influenced. Often not by the people they should be looking to emulate, but by those they shouldn't be. Also on the whole University students tend to be a touch smarter than your average footballer, so should in theory make less stupid decisions.

So yes, a loud, larger than life presence in the dressing room will gain more attention from young impressionable players. As the class of 92 learned from Cantona the current youngsters will learn from Pogba.

On the whole I don't think many people will think of that as a good thing.


9.) 04 Jun 2019 19:38:33
Several respected journalists have reported that he’s had a big influence on Lingard, Rashford and Martial.

{Ed033's Note - these can't be mainstream media journalists then


10.) 04 Jun 2019 19:48:48
Miguel Delaney in “The Independent: says “Just one of many dressing-room concerns right now is that Pogba has a negative influence on Jesse Lingard and Marcus Rashford, the latter of whom is seen to have lost his previously endearing humility”, while Chris Ashton in “The Sun” says: “Pogba runs the United dressing room and he needs a firm hand to keep him in check after yet another dip in form. ” and “And The Sun now reports that Pogba is ‘tearing Manchester United’s dressing room apart’ which will likely see the end to his time at the club.

The 26-year-old is understood to have told team-mates that he doesn’t think United have ‘made any progress’ since he left for Juventus seven years ago.

The report adds that United fear that Solskjaer can’t handle Pogba’s big personality”.


11.) 04 Jun 2019 22:14:38
Wallace. The independent and Sun are one of the crapiest paper. They write without any source so i would not worry about what they say.


12.) 04 Jun 2019 22:19:22
Shappy!

I am not so sure that he is the bad apple. He is loved in french team and is vocal there. I know he is inconsistent but i don't think he is the reason other players are playing poor. If you take pogba and play him in liverpool team, I am pretty sure he would be a massive player for them.

What i mean is, our playing style has taken toll on game play of our players. We actually don't have right players to play high pressing, attacking game which has msde it hard for the few right players we have. I mean for every rashford, Pogba, we have young, smalling.

I would personally get rid of smalling, jones and young before anyone. This guys being terrible are about to complete a decade in our club.


13.) 04 Jun 2019 23:36:42
pogba is a 89 mill flop and could not influence my a se.


14.) 04 Jun 2019 23:57:43
Rashford has always seemed a pretty grounded young man to me, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt until I actually see or hear him doing something that smacks of attitude. I remember reading an interview with him somewhere, when he first broke into the team, and family seems very important to him, especially his mother. If he's been brought up right, with a stable family background, there's a good chance he won't suddenly be led astray by Evil Pogba.

Has anyone actually seen or heard him do anything that suggests his attitude has suddenly become an issue?


15.) 05 Jun 2019 02:38:01
Paul Pogba is our best player. He is no problem in the french team and the Sun single him out it sells papers.

Want to know what the problem is? The amount of money that has been flung around at Utd and the wages of average players being so high that now everyone thinks entitled to a superstar pay.

P. S. - If Pogba says we haven't progressed since he joined Juve, could we disagree?


16.) 05 Jun 2019 10:13:47
@shappy I would think Lingard may be more to do with Rashford's attitude, no one seems to mind the fact Lingard launched his own clothes line mid-season. Another aspect may be all the attention Rashford is getting, all those little YouTube interviews and skits he is involved in.


17.) 05 Jun 2019 12:44:48
So72, your right Pogba isn't a problem when playing for a side he wants to. He is happy to play in a French side that has a real chance of winning things. He is not happy to be playing at United.

Remember the only reason he came back to United was we were the only fools daft enough to pay what was being asked. He didn't want to return to the club, he saw it as a stepping stone to La Liga.

Then the club blocked a potential move to Barcelona last summer and he threw his toys out the pram, turned the dressing room against the manager which ultimately lead to Mourinho's sacking (although Mourinho certainly didn't help the situation) which also lead to us missing out on UCL football for next season.

I don't understand the number of fans who are desperately clinging on to a player who so plainly holds no affection to our club and who wants to leave so much that he would give up on his dream move to la Liga and move back to Juventus rather than stay with us for one more season.

The guy doesn't want to be here, while that is the case he is toxic to our dressing room. Move him on and bring in players who want to be here.


18.) 05 Jun 2019 15:39:22
Shappy hit the nail on the head. We our trying to build a team around a player who doesn't want to be here. Instead of pogba our focus needs to be on improving positions we have neglected for so long ( no proper wingers, makeshift fullbacks) and assemble a proper balanced squad that plays to a proper system.


19.) 05 Jun 2019 17:18:17
I don't doubt Pogba doesn't want to be here, and there are many sticks to beat him with, but I still don't see anyone telling me how he's supposed to have led Rashford to the dark side, or showing me any evidence that Rashford has developed a bad attitude.


20.) 05 Jun 2019 22:53:24
Pogba is pants and I can't wait to see him leave man utd so we can have a proper player take his place in the squad.

I don't think I've ever seen a more over rated joke of a player and I'm amazed that Madrid or Juve want to pay so much money for him. Charlatan.


 

 

12 Aug 2015 15:38:51
Valencia based station claim that Otamendi has signed for Man United.They are also claiming that they've got tax based proof which really sounds to be concrete. Any idea eds?

{Ed001's Note - I don't know if anything has changed, but negotiations have been ongoing for a long time, so it would be about time!}


1.) 12 Aug 2015 17:00:21
Then it must be time ed. Thanks for your reply


2.) 12 Aug 2015 17:17:20
Ed001 you absolute legend. Thanks as always for the site and your straight talking, inoffensive, fair, honest responses to the majority of oats on this site.
Quick question for you from myself, what is/was it about the Otamendi situation that has caused so much hassle?
Cheers pal.

{Ed001's Note - it was the amount, a lot is down to them wanting you to pay not just the buyout clause but also the tax on the amount. This is quite a common issue when Spanish clubs sell to other clubs. It can quite often make the negotiations drag on as most buying clubs are not happy about paying that, for obvious reasons. Initially you offered under the buyout clause and they were holding out for the buyout and tax amount, hence the negotiations which have been off and on for a while.}


3.) 12 Aug 2015 17:43:36
Not sure if I'm right on this but I think it's because a buyout clause has to be bought out by the player himself, so we effectively need to give the transfer fee to Otamendi so that he can then buy himself out of the contract, and as we are giving him the money it is seen as income so it can be taxed.
Cheers for the info ed always look forward to your input


4.) 12 Aug 2015 22:11:07
Ed001 would this be a similar reason as to why it took us nearly a year to sign Herrera?

{Ed001's Note - yes. Hence why I wouldn't hold my breath on this one!}


5.) 13 Aug 2015 17:14:18
TV reporting that Utd have no interest in Otamendi. If(?) we believe them, no wonder Ed001 said 'don't hold your breath'.


 

 

03 Aug 2015 16:43:33
Several reports reporting that Pedro will be done as soon as tomorrow . How true is that ed?

{Ed004's Note - I don't think it will be done by tomorrow however I think there is a good chance he will be signed}


1.) 03 Aug 2015 19:14:12
Reports also saying we could be interested in pepe and we're hoping to get him and pedro in to finish off our transfer business. Be interesting to know what use all think of pepe ?


2.) 03 Aug 2015 19:36:37
I wondered when pepes name would come up! Certainly better than jones evans and smalling put together so why not


3.) 03 Aug 2015 19:41:26
I can't stand Phil Jones and Jonny Evans, but I would rather have them in my team than Pepe. I can not stand the guy. We don't need him in our team getting sent off or rolling around on the ground like he has been shot.

Otamendi, Garay, inigo Martinez, howedes, rudiger yes, Pepe, hell no!


4.) 03 Aug 2015 20:49:08
I totally agree huggy don't want him either but we definitely need someone our cbs are far too injury prone I'm surprised we haven't looked at inigo martinez would be a shrewd signing


5.) 03 Aug 2015 22:58:37
This is getting ridiculous now. Pepe is one of the best centre backs in the world with vast experience and you would all rather Jones, Evans, Rojo and Smalling?! i'm done


6.) 04 Aug 2015 05:41:43
No one wants Pepe? And you guys prefer the softies in our team? Goodness. Wonder why he starts so consistently all the time in one of the best line-ups in the world! I would love him here and prefer him to smack some opposition CFs time and again. Our team actual needs some tough jobs. Its gone too soft. How can one not want Pepe? Deary me.


7.) 04 Aug 2015 06:32:29
Pepe is a walking red card and a childish play actor. That's why people don't want him.


8.) 04 Aug 2015 08:34:30
Rafael was sold because he was said to be too "reckless". I wonder what LVG would make of Pepe

. you only need to look at Portugal's opening world cup 2014 game if you want an idea of why nobody wants him near our team.


9.) 04 Aug 2015 09:26:11
Probably the same people who didn't want Roy Keane because he used to kick people and get sent off a lot, he didn't do too badly.

You find when the 'horrible dirty player' is on your team you actually quite like him.


10.) 04 Aug 2015 09:55:31
Not a massive fan of Pepe and his antics but he'd improve our team significantly. GDS hits the nail on the head perfectly re: how easy it is to overlook and/or accept the personality flaws of your own players.


11.) 04 Aug 2015 10:14:15
Think Pepe would fit EPL very good and would be the no shit CB we need! His reputation isn't the best though, but still would do more good than bad!


12.) 04 Aug 2015 10:24:15
I would hate to see Pepe in a United shirt. Never forget that assault on Casquero. If you hate Suarez for biting you absolutely cannot like Pepe.


13.) 04 Aug 2015 11:58:05
not Pepe! Please no!


14.) 04 Aug 2015 12:09:05
GDS. I take your point but don't necessarily agree that Pepe can be that kind of player for united.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2019 10:56:12
For every year since SAF retired, I have seen fans claiming that they will be happy with top 4 for the next season. According to this genius, we get top 4 and then challenge for the title and then win it. Bollocks. If you always aim top 4 then you will get stucked at it, just like Arsenal.

Every year these fans claimed the same and can't believe even after 6 7 years, now they are claiming to be satisfied after we get top 4. It is depressing. The club must be working on winning the title. Even if we are not good enough, having that mindset to win the title will eventually take us to top 4 and we will still have the hunger to fight for more.

Having less ambition has messed this club. I could understand that from the club who are in mess but fans here as well? This window has been a disaster for me. We addressed defense which should have been done years ago. We let go two midfielders and our most proven striker and have not replaced them. Whos says all of those can't be bought in same window?

These fans who claim themselves to be positive one and other dramaqueen will probably aim for top 4 for next 10 years and get stucked at it.


1.) 08 Aug 2019 11:45:43
I’ve been saying it for years. There are people on here that act like they want United to slip further away from the top because it proves that they’re ‘real’ supporters. They say let’s wait and see for the entire transfer window, and when it all goes tits up and we make a mess of things, they tell people to shut up and support the players already here.

We are one of the richest clubs on the planet. For years we have abjectly failed in the transfer market. The club has resisted any change to the current setup. They have dragged their heals on bringing in a DoF. They have behaved in an amateur way this summer, completely failing to revamp a squad lagging far behind those challenging for the title.

We have too many fans that are full time apologists for mediocracy. I want the club to be challenging for titles, to have ambition, and to be focused on footballing rather than business success.

We have supporters who are more than willing to lay the blame on managers and individual players, but spend the entire summer trying to deflect blame from an incompetent transfer team who bungle through each and every window.


2.) 08 Aug 2019 11:56:32
Srestha, being positive/ optimistic does not mean being unrealistic of our chances especially with the state the club currently is in. Also, fans like me implying on finishing in the top 4 are not saying we would be satisfied with that year in year out, but it is more of a first step to get us back into champions league and then improve from thereon. CL is crucial for us in terms of finances and also attracting the top quality players.

Unfortunately, the mess created in the past several years with frequent change of managers, coaching staff, tactics, training methods and a total breakdown of our transfer policy has put the club in a difficult spot. And with such a state of instability the least the fans can do is try to be positive/ optimistic and hope for the best.


3.) 08 Aug 2019 12:11:22
LetsPlay, that was what was said last year as well. let's get top 4 and then progress. But unfortunately, as soon as we got top 4 the owners decided that no investment was required and we slipped back. This year even if we make it to the top 4, the history suggests that the owners will be satisfied and might decide not to make changes to the playing staff. We will forever be playing catch-up. Look at Real Madrid, they knew they needed to get in players and they did while here we are, supposedly the richest club in the world, taking baby steps.


4.) 08 Aug 2019 12:19:34
Great post Srestha.
Positive and aimimg for 4rt is in fashion these days.
Going for title is out of fashion lol.


5.) 08 Aug 2019 12:49:11
Letsplay!

Dont you get it. The team has glaring weakness which if not addressed will have us another manager sacked and your cycle will start again. Best way is to back a manager with everything possible so that the manager can succeed. Working step wise idea is dumb. You call yourself realist then realise how much of mess we are in stop acting like we had a wonderful window.

"Getting top 4, then title". This has been going on for years. I am sure with this type of average minded ambition we will be in even deeper mess.


6.) 08 Aug 2019 12:32:26
It's mad that its 7 years. We laugh at the Scousers and their 30 years but in the blink of an eye we could be at 10.


7.) 08 Aug 2019 12:59:35
Never thought I’d agree with you United Addict. but you are spot on. If anyone thinks we cannot do a big rebuild then look at the likes of city a few years ago and the two Madrid teams this year. Sure it takes time to plan it but this summer was the perfect opportunity. We could have had young, smalling, Jones and Rojo off the books but we go and give them huge contracts. It is clear where the deficiencies in the side are yet we only brought in 3 players.

We knew pogba and Lukaku wanted to leave yet we let the sagas drag on until the last day where we have no time to find replacements. Where is the direction and leadership? As ed said, the club is run by amateurs. Arsenal are a side considered in a tough situation yet they have a clear plan and direction led by sanllehi. Until we fix our structure and plan for the long term, we will be lurching from mistake to mistake, throwing obscene amounts of money on players who either don’t want to be here or not good enough. This aiming for 4th business is rubbish. We should be aiming to win every year.

I feel sorry for ole. I think he has done brilliantly this pre season and has integrated the youth well. But it’s grossly unfair on Youngsters to put all this pressure on them to perform. Before you know it, our fan base will be slaughtering Greenwood for missing a few chances. Like I said, I’m normally very positive but I feel so deflated. An injury to pogba or a return of his disinterested self and we are done. I really think ole can build something here. But not being given the tools and we will be making a new appointment in a years time. And then the cycle goes again.

I apologise if I’m being negative. I’m trying to assess both sides without blindly ignoring the fact we are ill equipped in midfield this season. Matches are won in midfield. Simple as. And ours is woeful imo. There are positives like I said with greenwood Chong, Tuanzebe and Gomes. Really happy with Maguire and wan Bissaka is going to be a star. But they aren’t enough. I will be there at old Trafford on Sunday and I will sing my heart out like I always do because I love this club. But we as fans, and ole, have been grossly let down by the powers above. That should not be overlooked.


8.) 08 Aug 2019 13:16:03
Srestha, where did I say I am a realist? And you can look at my other posts where I am looking at the positives and being optimistic, I have also talked about the glaring deficiencies in the squad. Don't just presume things just to make a point.

I have also mentioned about the frequent change of managers among others in my reply, if you are hasty enough to miss my point, that's not my fault.

Also, we as fans can have all the positive mindset but it is the team as a whole who need it the most for us to challenge for major honours.


 

 

03 Aug 2019 08:46:32
Hi Ed002,

If you have time, if dybala signs, how do you think he will fare for us. Will he be success in your opinion?

And considering Maguire is done, if we further add Dybala and Bruno, how will you see us faring in the league.

Would very much love your input.

{Ed002's Note - (a) The player does not want to join Manchester United, so it could just disappear. (b) Fifth or sixth should be achievable.}


1.) 03 Aug 2019 12:11:12
Fifth or sixth would be absolutely horrible ed. I am hopeful for 3rd position. With defense sorted out and likely addition of Bruno and Dybala (not really excited by him really), I can see getting just behind City and liverpool.


2.) 03 Aug 2019 13:39:29
Ed, I'm assuming United know that Dybala doesn't want to join? It makes United look even more daft if Dybala is openly expressing he does not want to join United, yet we still pursue it.

One other question Ed, have United discussed any other players as an alternative with to Dybala with Juve?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Dybala is the only player in his position that Juventus want to move on.}


 

 

27 Jul 2019 13:30:10
So after horrible end of last season, each and every one of us knew which was our weakest position which needed strengthening. CB, 2CM including replacement, RB and RW.

So far we have addressed just one single position with three glaring holes visible. Preseason has been very encouraging but that does not hide the fact that we are still way behind City and Liverpool and have to start acting towards bridging the gap. This can be done by mixture of mainly two things. First is definitely improving our gameplay. Preseason has been showing that we are working on right direction. High intensity runs, front foot pressure, pace on front, fighting for every ball and slowly bringing youth players into the team. Its been lovely to watch but it is not enough to make us stronger and better than last season. Second is bringing the right players to improve the team which fit Ole's style of play.

The season will be long and we will have different ups and downs and lots of injuries to bear. Right now i see many posters are very positive that they would not even care if we sign other players or not. 4 win in 4 preseason games is enough for them to consider that this squad is capable enough to do wonders. It was the same thought on most of us when Ole replaced Mou and won 14 out of 17 games (if i remember correctly) . This site was filled with lots of positivity when suddenly we lost to arsenal, wolves and everything started falling apart. The very same players were crap onwards.

My point is we are one slip of game away from going into turmoil and pointing out the most obvious fact that we have not reinforced the team. All the negativity won't help the team go further so why don't we start strengthening team from now onwards. We need CMs, sign them if they fit the criteria. I know it is hard to sign players but i am sure the club which has done this job from the time of its establishment can do it again.

As Ed002 stated, the club do have a list of players they are very interested in. Bruno, Maguire, Dias being obvious names. Maguire though is hugely expensive looks like the most likely signing. Bruno's price seems reasonable considering the inflated market. There might be lots of negotiations to be done and things to considered but if this players improve our team, it will be absolutely worthy. I hate to see club overspending but if that is what can improve our team then i am absolutely in for it.

People now and again say arsenal, chelsea, spurs haven't done much so we must not panic. I might have different view to it but isn't it the perfect time to act and get miles ahead of them. We will be staying right where they are if we do not act. I would consider this to be the most important window when our competitors are either banned or have low transfer budget.

In the end, before anyone slate me, I do know that signing players will not guarantee success. Many times it has not worked for us but it should be also considered the many times it has worked for us. Success will come sooner or later if we work on making things right and improving our team. We have the worst defenders out of the top teams then we could atleast get a defender who has the ability to stabilise and improve the defense. Same goes with midfield and attack as well.

We have exciting players coming from our youth system and playing them in a stable team is the best way to nourish them. I would really hate to see us turning into our youngsters to save our season. Too much pressure may can make them but definitely can break them.

Sorry for the long post but i had high hopes from this window. This window is still open and we may address the problems which would be absolutely joyous. However, looking at how we have handled negotiations by trying to bullying the teams, i fear we may also go to same "No value in the market" speech.


1.) 27 Jul 2019 14:22:01
My view is that the current squad is stronger, more capable and more prepared for this coming season.

That doesn't mean that the club shouldn't continue to work towards further strengthening the squad.

We also have to remember that just signing a player doesn't automatically improve the squad.

We signed Schneiderlin, we signed Depay, we signed Blind and Rojo. We signed Fred last summer. there's 150m worth of signings who as yet have been unable to improve the quality of our starting 11.

There is no guarantee that Maguire and Bruno Fernandes will improve our starting 11 either.

I would be more understanding of the melt down from some posters about the lack of signings if it was the 9th of August and the window was shut.

Or even if the information we were getting was that the club didn't intend to sign anymore players this window.

But it's not, we have been told by as good a source as you will find that the club is working towards deals for Maguire, Bruno Fernandes and possibly SMS if Pogba leaves.

So it is a lack of patience from United supporters not a lack of signings or effort to make signings from the club.

How silly will many posters look if the club make 3 more signings before the start of the season? Which is still quite possible.


2.) 27 Jul 2019 14:37:24
As i already said Shappy, signing players may not bring us success. We have signed players before and it did not work for us but it does not mean we do not look at it. Signing players is every bit as important as improving the playing style of the team. We are doing well in one thing then why don't we do other as well.

We still do have 12 days left but looking at how ed woodward has been doing business this couple of years and based on ed002's knowledge about our juvenile transfer approach, i seriously worry about how the window is going to end.

New signigs to improve the weak position, exciting youth stepping up and Ole's attacking gameplay. All these three are very much required if we want to reach the top anywhere near in the future.


3.) 27 Jul 2019 15:02:50
"New signigs to improve the weak position" - AWB anyone?
"exciting youth stepping up" - Greenwood, Gomez, Chong
"and Ole's attacking gameplay. " - that's what I am seeing, being worked towards watching the pre-season games.
" All these three are very much required if we want to reach the top anywhere near in the future. " - Looks like we're well on track then.


4.) 27 Jul 2019 15:07:08
Shappy, how is the current squad, as it stands, stronger than last season? AWB and a championship youngster added to the existing bunch from last season. AWB is perhaps the only starter we have signed. Please don't tell me that you are placing all your eggs on the shoulders of 17 year olds for the coming season. What happened to your balance?

Srestha, well put mate. that's the current state of our club right now and let's just hope the club sorts out the issues and the amateur behavior in the signings (players and managers) .


5.) 27 Jul 2019 15:13:59
Well it would be stronger then UA wouldn't it? AWB being added makes it that.


6.) 27 Jul 2019 15:29:34
In theory yes, angelred but then my question is what happened to Dalot? Why was he signed and then immediately shunned for AWB? RB was covered and other positions need investment immediately.

Southern Monkey, what youth products did Liverpool base their CL triumph on, just TAA? Or Real Madrid 3 years in a row, what youths did they base their titles on? Or City? Or forget these clubs, what youth products did we base our last title on? I am all for developing them and giving them a chance but not if you are putting pressure on them at this age. What if they don't cope and crumble. You ruin their career at 17-18.

We have signed only AWB who will be a starter, a position that didn't really require attention as a matter of urgency this season. We had Dalot there.

Exciting attacking game play is ok but its not everything. Liverpool were all gungho last season but couldn't win, klopp threw in some pragmatism to their attacks and that led them to the title this season. More than one way to skin a cat. But having said that, we can enjoy this new style of play after Jose's more defensive approach to wins.


7.) 27 Jul 2019 15:45:15
Aslong as matic and smalling don't start our first game against chelsea then our team will be in a better shape, smalling is an accident waiting to happen and matic slows down play to walking pace. AWB is a great replacement for an ageing young and the young lads are starting pre season games and getting experience. We are in a much stronger place than we were last season and i am confident it will be better than last season.


8.) 27 Jul 2019 17:28:12
Excellent post Stretha. We are still lacking at CB position, though Tuanzebe has been excellent in pre-season. Our midfield is a big worry. There's very little creation, and our ball retention is so bad, that against the top teams, we'll be found wanting.
Still no right winger, and the right side looks very unbalanced. I'm undecided on AWB, but his stats last year were superb, so hopefully, he will improve the right side of defence.
Attack looks ok, but if we are to get Fernandes and Pepe, then we will look much better going forward.
Finally and my biggest worry/ annoyance, what are Rojo, Smalling, Jones, Lukaku, Darmian still doing at the club? Why haven't we offloaded them even at the expense of losing money. Sometimes, you have to admit mistakes and cut your losses. While these players are still here, it makes a mockery of our pathetic transfer policy as Ed002 has been telling us for years.


9.) 27 Jul 2019 18:07:46
Was Dalot really going to be considered a starter this season? He's shown glimpses of talent, but I thought he looked far from a first-choice full back. He can now act as cover for lb and rb, while gaining experience.


10.) 27 Jul 2019 19:26:46
Dalot needs to improve his positioning. He adds depth to the FB positions which is good to have.


11.) 27 Jul 2019 16:13:03
I think dalot is there, can play both LB and RB as well as being deployed further up the pitch. He hasn't been shunned by anyone. he's a good player, one that can give the squad added value by being able to play different roles.


12.) 27 Jul 2019 22:40:15
Southern Monkey

I hope you are joking mate. Is RB the only weak position for you? AWB is enough for you to see this team improving massively?


 

 

22 Jul 2019 01:07:01
I find it funny when some posters use the "signing players is not easy, it takes lots of things to co sider" line when we are not doing well on the market.

I know signing players is not easy but looking at the state of the team, we desperately need to do that anyway, regardless of complexity. Looks like Maguire will be a united player by the end of the window and Pogba seems likely to leave with Madrid gathering funds. But we will need to sign at least 2 if not three MF and a RW with possibility of needing to sign a ST to replace Lukaku. Lots of signings to be done in less than 3 weeks and i am certainly not positive about it. This was suppose to be the biggest and most crucial window for us till now.

Before anyone slate me, I am not talking about expensive signings but just the one the club has been scouting and the manager thinks is right for the club. It may be hard to sign them but we are not in the position to go another season without proper players and then regret about it. It already happened last season and I believe it would have been different if Mourinho was given all his targets.


1.) 22 Jul 2019 06:18:09
At the moment, we seem to build for the future.
Jose wanted stop gap signings which would hinder long term progression.

I'm pretty happy with the recruitment so far. We all knew the glaring deficiencies in the squad with regards to lack of quality winger, RB, CB, midfielders.
It is good to see that we are addressing those issues one by one.
The players recruited so far and linked to us are quality young players who will certainly improve the squad.


2.) 22 Jul 2019 06:58:20
I'd rather the club took their time to identify the right targets rather than make signings for the sake of it. We have done a lot of that since SAF left and it has done us no favours.

It seems like the club have a plan and they will stick to it. Also to consider is the fact that it has always been difficult for our club to move on players and we are in the position now where players have to go before we can bring in others.

Signing players is not easy Srestha, ed002 put together a fine post last week going through the complexities of a deal. You should have a read.

Also, look at our nearest rivals and tell me how many of them have strengthened their squads. They seems to all be having the same problems.

We have James in, wan bissaka, maguire on the cusp, DDG tied down. I'd imagine one or two more signings and more should certain players leave.

I'm sure the club have done the bulk of the work and it's now about making the correct offers. I think its going to be a busy last few weeks.


3.) 22 Jul 2019 07:38:32
TrueRedDevil

My point is that without proper signings, it would be very hard to prepare for future. Once the season starts and we haven't addressed our issues then there is good chance of the team failing and evidently, Ole will get sacked too. Then, new manager comes and another rebuilding project starts. We cannot afford that. This is our fourth rebuild and we are still nowhere. It is very important to address the weakest areas of our team. No need for luxury signings but definitely the essential ones. One CB, two MF, RW and ST is very much needed.


4.) 22 Jul 2019 08:49:16
Srestha, the one line that concerns me is where you say 'not the expensive signings'.

Have you not seen that even the 'cheaper' players these days are given a price tag of £50m when they see United coming.

This is why negotiations are taking so long. We've been over paying for players for years now. So it is actually a good thing that we are taking time to negotiate with clubs.

Would you pay 50m for Longstaff then?


5.) 22 Jul 2019 10:32:10
Angelred

You are getting it wrong mate. I have not said sign just for the sake of it. The club has identified the targets. Why on earth we would be identifying targets when the window is near its end. I just want the club to sign the identified target. I know its hard but looking at the state of the club, we must be working hard on getting as many targets as possible.

City and Liverpool don't need strengthening really, Arsenal have a transfer kitty of a hobbit and Chelsea can't sign players while tottenham don't have finance after investing all in their new stadium. We are the only one with good financial condition and can spend in the market. Comparing others with us is pointless.

I know what ed said, that is the reason why I said we need to focus in it even more harder regardless of complexity. It is complicated for RM and athletico as well but they got it done. If the season starts and our defense starts leaking goals or midfield shows no creativity, then i am sure you will be among us wishing we had signed quality players.

Another failed season will mean another new rebuild and this cycle will go on.


6.) 22 Jul 2019 10:36:32
Obi,

By non expensive i mean non luxurious. Maybe i chose wrong word but i hope you know what i mean. Instead of signing big expensive names, I would gladly accept other names which the club has been scouting and looking into. I would at least know that the club has been working on addressing the problem.


7.) 22 Jul 2019 11:03:26
Srestha,

So what you want to happen is exactly what is happening this summer, the club going for players they have scouted that they feel will improve the team. You should be prett happy, I think that’s what we all want and expect to happen, plenty time left yet.


8.) 22 Jul 2019 11:44:32
GDS

Lets hope its happening. Happy with AWB and DJ but hoping we will get some more. Everything is going so quiet now that 3 weeks seems pretty less time to get all things done.


9.) 22 Jul 2019 11:46:43
You say 'we desperately need to do that anyway'. Desperate reads to me like signing for the sake of it. I wouldn't say we are desperate?

I think the club have their targets and have been working hard to get them. Unfortunately it takes time. You need to have a bit more patience. There are a good few weeks left.

You say comparing us to others is pointless but then go on to compare RM and Athleticos situation? By the way RMs situation is completely different. They have been planning this overhaul for an awful long time.

Your post just sounded a bit panicky and we need to buy buy buy right now or risk it all going to pot. I think we are okay and will continue to add quality until the end of the window.

I'm more concerned about our coach right now.


10.) 22 Jul 2019 13:06:29
So desperate means sign just for the sake of it? Wow. For me we are desperate need of improvement, not signing like mad men.

I am not talking about right now and saying that everything must be done right now. We have 3 weeks and it would be better if we have everything in place by then.

You are comparing how other clubs have not signed players with us while RM and AM was all about regarding how you claim "Signing players is very hard". Even if i am comparing as well then at least it is with club who are doing things better than us, rather than who arent. And last time i checked you need to compare ypurself with better teams and try to better them.

I am not panicking right now but will sure do if we don't address our weak areas by the window's end.

I too worry about Ole but it would even get worse if he has to manage the team with same poor defense and shaky midfield.


 

 

17 Jul 2019 02:48:12
So today will be the day i will watch us play for the first time ever. Even though we came from a very bad season, I am very much excited to see all these players in red playing for the club.

It makes me think how fortunate fans here are who enjoyed many years of success down the road, right infront of their eyes. We are thousand of miles away and with lots of barriers to get there, still enjoy watching on TV. Well, hoping for an exciting game and couple of selfies with players if possible.


1.) 17 Jul 2019 06:23:10
Good luck and enjoy the game.


2.) 17 Jul 2019 06:31:28
Best of luck, man. I'm sure you'll enjoy. Don't let the previous season hamper your spirits. Watching us play live is the best feeling one can ever have. I saw them last year (although it was at Emirates and we lost), I still remember the feeling and the excitement and the agony that was with me for a long long time.

Hope you have a similar feeling (obviously, minus the agony bit)


3.) 17 Jul 2019 07:22:05
Enjoy.

A friend of mine went to the game in Perth last week. Apparently that game brought £35m to the local economy. Just shows the pull the club has.

Have a great evening. 👍.


4.) 17 Jul 2019 07:57:18
Enjoy you will love it.


5.) 17 Jul 2019 07:59:10
Strestha,

That’s great, I hope you enjoy every minute of it.


6.) 17 Jul 2019 09:43:12
Thanks everyone. Just near the gates now. can't wait 😆.


7.) 17 Jul 2019 12:21:56
Enjoy it pal.


8.) 17 Jul 2019 15:06:05
I hope you enjoyed the victory Srestha ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️.


 

 

 

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10 Aug 2019 03:43:24
How about you guys ask Ed002. Ha?


 

 

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07 Jul 2019 15:47:08
Ed002 for Technical Director. Anyone? 😊.


 

 

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04 Jun 2019 22:19:22
Shappy!

I am not so sure that he is the bad apple. He is loved in french team and is vocal there. I know he is inconsistent but i don't think he is the reason other players are playing poor. If you take pogba and play him in liverpool team, I am pretty sure he would be a massive player for them.

What i mean is, our playing style has taken toll on game play of our players. We actually don't have right players to play high pressing, attacking game which has msde it hard for the few right players we have. I mean for every rashford, Pogba, we have young, smalling.

I would personally get rid of smalling, jones and young before anyone. This guys being terrible are about to complete a decade in our club.


 

 

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04 Jun 2019 22:14:38
Wallace. The independent and Sun are one of the crapiest paper. They write without any source so i would not worry about what they say.


 

 

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04 Jun 2019 13:58:44
Fair point Leahy but it looks like they very much want Pogba. Apparenly dybala is unhappy in the current juve style built around Ronaldo. They might sell Dybala to make some cash for Pogba.

People might question Pogba's mentality but he is among the very few quality player we have. I would not sell him personally but if he wants to go, it has to be a big fee. Many clubs have ripped us in the market and this time we should be no less.


 

 

 

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09 Aug 2019 05:35:49
Absolutely agree Redfaith. These people looks like they are running for positivity award. Being positive for just the sake of it does not work.

Lots of ifs and buts are in shappy's post. What if Pereira this? What if fred this? What if our young players this? Jesus. All ifs and buts. No one to whom we can actually count on and say yes he will do this.


 

 

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08 Aug 2019 14:06:33
Ya i knew you would pick on that one GDS ignoring everything else. As much as i didn't like him, he was an option. We should have replaced him with better quality and we have not. Just go and bow to Woodward who must be your father figure as he is taking the club where you wanted. Average.


 

 

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08 Aug 2019 13:42:26
Club has done everything other than midfield? So RW? ST is done?

Club has promoted youth and removed those who were on their way? Please remind me who we have offloaded? Herrera? Fellaini? Lukaku? Do you want youth to replace these players or learn from them. All these were extreme professional unlike the tons of crap who are still here.

The rebuilding starts now? Well if i had a dollar for everytime i heard that for past seven years.

What should remind you as a united fan is the high level of ambition this club had. How we used to have scary team beating others even before kicking a ball. Now, I worry even while we play Everton or Wolves.

Everyone is hiding behind promoting youth curtain but don't forget success is a mixture of youth, experience and class leaders. We don't have proper mentors for this young players.

Cant see how you see we are going on right direction. There is a possibility that we will have a poor season and Ole will get sacked. If that happens then your rebuild will start again.


 

 

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08 Aug 2019 12:49:11
Letsplay!

Dont you get it. The team has glaring weakness which if not addressed will have us another manager sacked and your cycle will start again. Best way is to back a manager with everything possible so that the manager can succeed. Working step wise idea is dumb. You call yourself realist then realise how much of mess we are in stop acting like we had a wonderful window.

"Getting top 4, then title". This has been going on for years. I am sure with this type of average minded ambition we will be in even deeper mess.


 

 

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08 Aug 2019 11:01:43
GDS2

Stop acting like a saint. Is Mandzukic young and hungry like you guys have been buzzing about? Will he push us to title? Is signing him building united team for long term? The way you and other fans are getting less ambitious is depressing. Just keep on wishing for us to get in CL like average club.

We addressed defense after years and you seem to be happy with it. I guess if we strengthen our midfield after 5 years, it will be enough for you to be satisfied.

There are problems in the team and don't act like we dont.