Manchester United banter 2

04 Nov 2025 20:53:00
Good thread below on casimero and his good form.
The real difficult the manager has is also a blessing for a different reason for the season imo and that is that we only have 1 game per week.
So with less injuries and a lesser requirement to rotate some players are getting very little game time.
Ordinarily if we had 2 games a week 18 to 20 players will be in the starting 11 over 30 times a season minimum. But that 20, if players stay fit And results are OK will become 14 or 15 so there is no doubt that its going to be difficult to keep them happy. Going out in the league cup compounded the problem.


It makes it hard for mainoo zirkzee heaven obi and academy players to get a decent look in. We've been on a decent run for the last 4 so its pretty much right to go same again next weekend its hard to put up a case for changes.
So the 11 that started plus mount maguire and dorgu are the main 14 he picks from if all are fit. i'd expect martinez to come into that to make it 15.
Casimero is benefiting as will bruno and deligt in particular.
In a 60 game season very few players start more than 40
In a 38 game season the top guys should be starting 30 plus, if available so it doesn't help the 2nd tier.

05 Nov 2025 04:24:28
Good post Shappy no deliberate mistakes either, I am impressed and I agree yes there are 14 main players for RA and for him to go same again…quite like the workings of how many games players play per season that don’t help 2nd tier.

05 Nov 2025 11:44:40
Maze. Maybe you should get some 'red tints' so you can see who's post you are trolling.

05 Nov 2025 18:21:41
Monkey, I'm detecting a strong smell of sarcasm from his opening line, mate.

06 Nov 2025 06:01:52
All I can smell is troll, Nou.

04 Nov 2025 14:51:05
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04 Nov 2025 13:57:53
So its Sir David Beckham. A legend knighted.

04 Nov 2025 16:06:16
He certainly been sucking up enough for it that’s for sure!

04 Nov 2025 17:35:47
Bit sad really. WTF is a 'Sir' anyway. I'd be embarrassed to be involved with such elitist nonsense.

04 Nov 2025 18:43:41
Congrats to his PR team who have been working their socks off to make this happen for years.

05 Nov 2025 00:22:51
Hardly sad is it, knight of the realm, well deserved, well done David.

05 Nov 2025 04:26:38
The problem with it nowadays like everything else is it’s been so diluted and being given out like confetti, gongs are being dished out all and sundry which is the sad bit about it all.

05 Nov 2025 07:26:59
You are a cheerful lot aren't you, an absolute icon of the club gets knighted and people can't wait to put the knives in.

Well done to David Beckham for achieving a life long goal.

05 Nov 2025 07:51:01
Yes, well done, Sir David. However, as alluded to above re dilution, being put on a par with the likes of Cur Sadiq Khan isn't a good look.

05 Nov 2025 12:42:41
I_am_djemba_djemba, maybe have a think about what being 'knighted' actually is.

Explain it to me and see if it doesn't sound preposterous and elitist.

05 Nov 2025 18:23:15
MancMan, it's a monarchy. What can you do?

Start a revolution, maybe 😁.

06 Nov 2025 16:09:00
Noucamp, what Becks could do is publically state he was offered a 'knighthood' but didn't accept because it's elitist, archaic claptrap with no place in a modern egalitarian society.

I'd have far more respect for that than 'Sir David'.

I mean I'd feel a right pillock if anyone call me 'Sir'

06 Nov 2025 20:12:29
MancMan, I actively encourage people to call me sir 😁.

04 Nov 2025 07:39:02
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03 Nov 2025 07:39:04
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03 Nov 2025 12:00:45
Shappy, it's still very encouraging. we lost the head for 5 minutes, got it back and could've nicked it at the end.

I've been extremely encouraged. Could've been second and I was not expecting to say that after last season and this season's start.

Long may it continue, long may we continue to defy the odds and get better results.

03 Nov 2025 14:25:48
The biggest question for me is still midfield. Casemiro has been excellent during this run, but the team look fragile without him. The problem is that he struggles to last a full 90 minutes.

It’s a sorry state of affairs that there isn’t a single player in the squad capable of covering for him. Ugarte has been very underwhelming, and the manager doesn’t trust Manioo in that role. However, at some point during the season, Casemiro is going to get injured or burnt out. All the progress is in danger of collapsing when this happens.

03 Nov 2025 17:02:38
I’m really pleased with how things are going but will reflect properly after Spurs. It wasn’t good enough on Saturday but we came away with an away point, there’s certainly a positive in that.

It’s time to see if the good form is the norm or if it’s blip. We had a couple of good results but we need to give it until after December to understand where we are at. Amorim will have had more than enough time and the new players/ regime should be settled.

03 Nov 2025 17:19:19
Lots of positives last few matches Saturday showed our weaknesses that we all knew are still there.
Fullbacks lack quality that goes for amad too in the defensive sense.
Midifield not quite where it needs to be. Anderson would be a welcome addition
We lack a forward to really come on and change the game I feel zirkzee will be gone in January.

03 Nov 2025 18:02:20
Throwing Zirkzee and Mainoo in might very well have changed the outcome.
When we play against 2 quality CBs, with a very well drilled side around them, we struggle to penetrate. Throwing in Mainoo and Zirkzee I have noticed makes ordinarily organised defences double up on Zirkzee and leave gaps elsewhere.


They are, as a pair, I think quite unpredictable, so in Amorim's defence, you could argue they may not have changed the game, but for me it should have been worth a shot, Cunha, Mbeumo and Sesko offered very little.

04 Nov 2025 10:38:45
Will casemiro get burnt out with 1 game a week?

04 Nov 2025 11:41:10
Gnev! You'd imagine he won't. The lack of fixtures is ideal for our older players most notably Cas. And I believe we are seeing the benefits.

He has got himself into the best shape has been in since coming to this club, we just need to manager his minutes correctly. He's a big player for us this year given our lack of quality at CM and RAs reluctance to play Kobbie there.

04 Nov 2025 13:33:24
I think it’s a tough ask for a player of his age, and the damage done to his body over the years, to play a full season in a two man midfield.

Credit where it’s due. He clearly put in the work to get in the best condition during the summer. But I can’t see him maintaining this level for a full season. Even with one game a week. What you’d want is to be able to rest him for some games. But the moment he’s off the pitch, we look a shambles.

I think that he’ll have to be rested over the Christmas schedule, and I’ve lost all confidence in Ugarte.

04 Nov 2025 16:10:04
Always said Cass is our best midfielder by a country mile, he will last the season with a game a week that’s not the problem because he will miss games because Red cards he picks up, then that’s a major catastrophe with what we have available for midfield as backup… hopefully Ugarte and Mainoo can be sold in January pointless keeping either because clearly RA don’t rate either of them.

04 Nov 2025 17:58:50
Ugavrte has been the biggest disappointment for me, but he’s not good enough to play in a 2 man midfield.

04 Nov 2025 22:47:04
Agree about Ugarte playing in a two man midfield. My worry is that teams usually have three in midfield and that they overload us there. It's one reason why Cas gets so many yellow/ red cards. As fit as he has got he is not so young and his stamina is still suspect and when faced with three in midfield it gets too much for him.

02 Nov 2025 16:31:58
Eds my posts seem to still be blocked on the Banter page. If there is a reason for this let me know but otherwise can you stop doing this.

{Ed033's Note - Ok, you're no longer on jankers.

02 Nov 2025 13:57:09


Shappy has written an article entitled, Manchester United Show Resilience Despite Worst Performance Since Brentford

02 Nov 2025 07:58:34
Dalot was poor yesterday, Utd looked better when Dorgu came on. i'm not really sure what RA sees in Dalot, as he is more of a hinderence to the team.

Is he just a makeshift until Martinez returns and Shaw can be pushed out back as a lwb?

02 Nov 2025 08:03:37
As I said last week, he's the most consistent player. Previous managers have praised him but he can't defend or attack so not sure what he brings.

02 Nov 2025 09:42:55
Wing back is a special-ist position, hard for converted full backs (Dalot) or converted wingers (Amad) to perform consistently well there. It can only really be solved with recruitment.

I mean the first goal is a clear blueprint on how to score against us because Amad is going to struggle in the air against pretty much every opponent.

Dalot has never been a good attacker really so hard for him to play wing back on his opposite side lol.

02 Nov 2025 09:49:48
Do not want to see shaw as LWB. I think him being at lcb is much of the reason why he's stayed fit. No marauding runs down the wing has helped his legs imo.

02 Nov 2025 11:05:02
If amorim thought Shaw could play lwb he would be playing there. We have options at lcb. Clearly shaw is not considered cir the wider role.

02 Nov 2025 12:19:28
I think the physical demands at LCB are already big so it really wouldn't surprise me if Shaw plays at least part of some games at LWB when Licha is back. He's the only player in the squad that's currently good enough to play there.

02 Nov 2025 16:18:32
He has been defending well at lcb but so slow in possession its getting frustrating.

02 Nov 2025 16:20:55
Seems to me RA not really sure about any of the defenders why on earth does he keep making defensive substitutions when we need to win…. becoming the tinkerman all over again…. I have never ever seen him make a change in a game that’s enhances the team it’s always just like for like TBF Dorgu is no better than Dalot!
Looks like we still need 2 wing backs and still a proper experienced striker, Sesko a long way off being good enough ATM in this league.

02 Nov 2025 19:00:39
Hes only played 6 games. give him a chance. At least he's scored a few.

02 Nov 2025 19:47:56
Our wing backs are in dire need of upgrading.
I was commenting to a mate about how much Amad annoys me with his pathetic defending and general lack of reading the game in that respect.

Then he scored his goal.

So he is the because he offers us something going forward, however, if I was an opposing team, I would be targeting Amad all day long.

02 Nov 2025 19:52:11
Sesko needs more service. He showed yesterday he is capable of making things happen on his own, but he needs his team mates to create more for him.

Both options at LWB don't have that in them and IMO are nowhere good enough.

03 Nov 2025 00:28:07
We have a squad of international players and are playing 1 game a week. The squad has no chance to play themselves into fitness or form, but come christmas we will be glad that we have a few subs that have had some game time.

Zirkzee has barely played, dorgu, maz, ugarte, mainoo, heaven have all been severely starved of minutes. Hiw will the younger players, our future, develop without playing. Many will want to leave in jan with it being a WC year.

03 Nov 2025 04:19:33
The players who aren't playing, have in part, themselves to blame for our current lack of fixtures, be that last season's failure to win the EL, or compete in the EPL, or this year's failure to turn over Grimsby.

03 Nov 2025 04:46:01
Zirkzee has barely played, dorgu, maz, ugarte, mainoo… if your not good enough or the manager just don’t fancy you, your not going to play many minutes, so if you work on the assumption that RA is the man to try take us forward you may as well just get rid of those ones its not a charity to just keep them because someone likes them

Sesko needs much more time to develop just not up to standard required other players have eyes too and make there own judgement so yes we still need an experienced striker in badly.

03 Nov 2025 12:02:10
Been disappointed with dalot and Dorgu.

Will be happy to see Licha back, he will make a massive difference.

If we could somehow find a CM in January. It would be massive but it's a long shot.

03 Nov 2025 17:34:42
Sesko needs to improve his first touch first of all, before other players will even start to look for him, I never ever rated Rasmus but I am really not sure Sesko is any better or anymore potential than he did…. I feel we still really need an experienced striker for Sesko to learn from….

those that say give him time or he needs service are the usual crew that waxed lyrical about Sancho when he first arrived, Rasmus till he left, but you need to show the basics and I am not seeing it with Sesko.

02 Nov 2025 07:39:02
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01 Nov 2025 23:25:17
Agree with those who suggest that after that terrible 5 minutes we would have lost that game last year. Instead only a clearance off the line prevented us from winning it. So, much better character shown by the players, many of whom were not at their best.

Sesko, in particular, seemed to have no first touch. Forest may be struggling but I think we prevented them from making it 4 wins in a run against us.