Manchester United banter 10

15 Oct 2026 22:52:47

Again, to remind you, Carrick is not the Manager, he's the Head Coach. He had no say in whether Rashford returned or not. It was a fait accompli because the club couldn't sell him. So, what would you expect him to do when the club forces Rashford, or indeed any player on him?. Throw a hissy fit? Send him to the reserves? Or try to make the best of it? And, if the last of these 3 options - which is the only realistic one for someone making £300k+ per week - then why start out by telling the player, or indeed the press, that he's unwelcome.



The blame goes to the club, and if players are downing tools because of Rashford then they're a load of unprofessional t****, who don't deserve to wear the shirt.

16 Oct 2026 01:20:55
I think option is you force him out by telling him you won't be playing and will be with the youth team. Will his ego have taken it, probably a no. Or maybe just have taken the 10 million Barca wanted to negotiate to. I would have sold him for free just to get him
Out and wages off the books.
Remember we only want players who want to play for United, we keep getting reminded of this whenever we are interested in a player.

Rashord made clear he does not want to play for us anymore.
100% blame goes to the Wilcox and co, I don't think as a player I would want rashford in the squad and I'm sure after publicly saying I want to leave the club he's back in with the number 9 shirt and starting games straight away. I can understand if squad harmony was affected.

16 Oct 2026 03:08:22
If he isn't good enough and/ or interested enough he doesn't play. End of!

I don't care if he is on a million a week.

16 Oct 2026 07:59:48
That's fine Keefy, I agree.. but you can't start out assuming that before the season has started.

My point is that people are blaming Carrick for welcoming Rashford back. He had no choice. The club left him with that as the only viable option.

16 Oct 2026 10:16:33
Carrick most certainly did have

He also had the choice to put Rashford on the bench and not put him on.

Or do what Amorim did

Instead he put other players noses out who got us to 3rd. He put Cunha on the bench to play Rashford in Europe.

Frankly Carrick is a weak coach and this just proves it.

16 Oct 2026 11:41:39
agree red man, a player who has his number taken walks straight back into the team without having to earn his spot.

alot of questions were asked why barca haven't bought him, some were saying they were stupid to send him back to us. how wrong they were

players playing 90 minutes every week while not performing

only a matter of time before carrick is gone anyway, maybe after the beating we get sunday will make it sooner. and the Sunday league backroom staff along with him but whoever signed off on making him the perm manager after saying they were not going to needs to be sacked also.

whys it only the managers getting sacked.

16 Oct 2026 13:04:55
B0lg

I watched the Madrid forward leave Rashford jogging, it was everything he did before. Then Rashford jumped out of the way in the 2 man wall, an absolute basic do not do and they hit the bar.

I cannot fathom how people see Rashford in the team and if Carrick had any cohones, which he doesn't clearly, in summer he would have said I am not prepared to integrate him back in so you better sell him now. The fact Carrick is pushing other players out of position and even benching them for this Fraud and utter disgrace to the shirt is a symbol of how poor and weak Carrick is and of the issues at the club. I called for Wilcox to go and if he thinks Rashford could easily be reintegrated then he is every bit as bad as everyone thinks.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Red Man..

16 Oct 2026 13:35:03
100% agree, it was Carrick's decision to start Rashford.
If i was Cuhna, Mbeumo, and Sesko i would be properly pi**ed off with Carick. Between the three of them they hit over 30 goals last season, then Rashford walks back into the the club he wanted to leave and immediatley gets a starting place, it's a f**ing joke!
I would bench him end of!

16 Oct 2026 15:52:58
Start him on bench. Or at a push, start him at 9 until sesko is fit. The club kept him in lieu of another striker, so play him there.

But to start the season, he should have started bench and then come on to prove himself. Beginning the season with a starting spot, push out cuhna from the left, was crazy and sent the wrong message to the squad.

Carrick is weak and clearly will not be the manager for long.

But change to DOF first and let them fix the mess.

16 Oct 2026 17:53:10
But how do you know if that in training he was looking fantastic and warranted a starting place, was miles ahead of the rest and Carrick see that, hence put him in . We won't never ever know. of course the haters can summise.

17 Oct 2026 00:26:15
I think the past tells us he doesn't train well.

17 Oct 2026 10:34:08
JSU

He clearly wasn't training well at Barca or Villa. Barca rather spent an extra 50m they didn't have on Gordon. Villa preferred Garnacho. Enough said.

17 Oct 2026 10:41:34
I would have been fine with leaving him on the bench at the beginning of the season but maybe he was simply showing more in training than Cunha, who had a tougher summer. Fact is Rashford worked hard at the beginning of the season and played reasonably well up to the final pass or shot. Cunha has been bang average.

18 Oct 2026 11:21:25
That ignores the main issue. I couldn't care if he was training well, this is the guy who said along the lines of if he was a magician he would stay at Barca.

Rashford shouldn't be anywhere near the first team.

Now he is trying so hard by playing through an injury, look at me I really care. Carrick would rather play an injured Rashford than Cunha. Ridiculous

As to Cunha, imagine coming into work after having put a massive effort in last season, to find the manager giving favour to the guy who spent last season showing a leg to Barca desperate to leave.

Suspect when Carrick is gone Cunha will not feel as kicked in the nuts.

15 Oct 2026 19:56:50
So, how about if every supporter of every EPL club sued Shamchester Citeh for pain and suffering caused as a direct result of their cheating.

16 Oct 2026 07:49:06
Can we sue Glineos for the pain and suffering they've caused us?

16 Oct 2026 19:44:23
We could sue glinoes but they would pass the debt onto the club. We will be in year 2037 with debt of well over 4 billion, in a relegation battle and these see you next Tuesdays will still be in charge of the club.

I'm telling you as fans we need to raise the funds to get this club fan owned. I have heard mr Beckham and his mates are going to try make a move In the next few years ?.

15 Oct 2026 18:12:23
We have a good squad, not a great one, we are short on some areas, but we should still be much better than we are. Team and tactics being leaked again is shocking. We need to get the right players in the right positions and working hard, that will be a huge step forward straight away. Win a few games, confidence grows, look at last season.

We don't know the extent of our finances or what players they tried and failed to sign in the summer either. Hopefully that outburst by Martinez galvanised the players and fans and gives the board the wake up call they need, l'd love to see a few more agree with him. I can see Martinez getting great support at our next home game.

15 Oct 2026 20:54:58
I am truly shocked by these leaks as I didn't think we had any tactics.

16 Oct 2026 08:02:22
We have a singular tactic.

15 Oct 2026 16:02:40
As much as I agree that Wilcox is not fit to be Director of Football at this club based on what we've seen so far, I also don't think Carrick is good enough to be Head Coach, nor are the coaches around him.

We're supposedly trying to compete at the top end of the table, yet we have a coaching setup made up of failed Middlesbrough coaches and former players. Honestly, it's hard to take seriously. What coaching or management credentials do Carrick, Woodgate and Evans have that justify them leading a club the size of Manchester United?

Having played football for 25 years, I can say from experience that being in an environment with poor coaching absolutely affects performances. You can have talented players, but there's nothing more frustrating than working under coaches who aren't good enough.

Wilcox certainly isn't innocent in any of this, but there has to be accountability throughout the football structure. The old saying goes: there are no bad students, only bad teachers. Before people respond by saying, "Amorim was a good coach", I'd challenge that as well. On what basis did he have the credentials to come in and coach Manchester United players?

For me, the problems at the club go far deeper than recruitment. The quality of leadership, coaching and football direction all need to be questioned if Manchester United genuinely want to get back to competing at the highest level.

15 Oct 2026 18:09:27
Exactly Curtis it's all low rent . But that sums up Ineos.

15 Oct 2026 18:13:01
Wilcox put the current coaching team in place. So he is accountable. We have huge holes in the squad. He is accountable. We can't sell players who need to be moved on. He is accountable. He chose to stick with amorim, but them failed to get him the right players and then fell out with him and pushed him out the door. Runours were that it was Wilcox that was going to go instead of amorim, before amorim blew up and made it clear he was leaving.

This is not a big deal. Man in charge of all football matters at club gets sacked because the team is not performing. They thought nothing of sacking hundreds of employees who cost relatively little. He is expensive. He is costing the club a fortune with his poor decisions and we are no closer to success than when he joined.

Best in class my ar3e.

15 Oct 2026 15:26:04
I don't have great knowledge on world football and I rarely know much about our new signings until they play for us, but I had seen a lot of Sesko before he signed. I was excited, he was quick, powerful, great height when heading, scored great goals left and right footed and bullied defences.

Then he puts on our jersey and I have seen none of what he was doing before. What on earth happens to players when they get here. I know he's not getting great service but he hasn't shown much either.

15 Oct 2026 15:40:47
Sesko was never in the EPL when you see him, but in inferior leagues. So many can't hack it and he is certainly one of those.

15 Oct 2026 18:16:55
Banjoe ray wilkins once told me that playing in the epl is like playing a different sport to playing football in Italy or spain member minds the really weak ladies like Germany or portugal.
Of course some come to uk and make the transition seemlessly and take it in their stride.
But others never cope with the change.
Veron player of year in Italy useless in England at Chelsea and United.
Wirtz not coping well kagawa sancho and miki were player of year in Germant before we signed them like wirtz was goykerez is struggling too to get a game now.
Very few replicate their form from abroad certainly initially.
How long are Arsenal united spurs chelsea looking for a top striker? They are hard to come by and there are very few haalands or close to it.


Plus coming into a struggling team is even harder. Sesko could be on his 4th manager at united since he signed last year in a couple of weeks. (Including fletcher). What chance had he got plus he can't stay fit And available. So even if he was the real deal its impossible to show it in that sort of environment and circumstances.
Carricks style of play doesn't suit him either even if he was fit. All too slow and nobody running off and beyond him or crossing. It's been painful to watch. Our lack of control, cohesion and movement is criminal.
There is a dating i use frequently that's that's KISS keep it simple stupid.
We just need to keep it simple work hard stay organised and see where it takes us.

15 Oct 2026 23:39:01
Thanks for that TW, Good points there. Sometimes the big move is the wrong move for some players.

15 Oct 2026 12:54:46
Just a reminder: Carrick is not the manager, he's the head coach who works under the DOF Jason Wilcox. As the coach he's responsible for training, selection, tactics and what happens on the field, but he's not responsible for the acquisition or sale of players.

Now maybe Carrick should be getting more out of these players. There's really no excuse for being outrun, outfought, being second to every ball, or having no apparent tactical plan either to break down defenses, or organize to defend. But if the coach isn't given the sort of players needed to achieve those objectives then that falls directly on the DOF and those higher up the food chain.

I think it's absolutely clear that the manager hasn't been given the tools to compete at the highest levels in the short term. What we don't know is whether Wilcox wanted the club to buy certain players but was met with resistance because the club simply doesn't have the money. If that's the case then the responsibility falls on those above Wilcox. If that's the case, and I suspect it is, then firing Carrick and/or Wilcox won't make a scrap of difference beyond a possible short term bump.

Ever since the Glazers took over the club's cash flows have been used to finance their debts and the incompetence of their chosen management team. Woodward was a footballing disaster. Now cash flows are being used not only for debt financing but to prepare the ground for a new stadium, leaving the club, after 7 straight years of losses, in a position where it does not have the financial wherewithal to compete for the best players. That £60m+ for land could have been used to buy a good full back, but no, it was used too fuel a pipe dream that most United supporters hardly care about.. at least not if it compromises the team's ability to compete.

Many of us have been saying it for years. The malaise starts at the top, with the owners, and the debt that's strangling the club's performances on the field. I, for one, don't care about whether we have a stadium that can house a Taylor Swift concert or some other mega event. I only care about the football and the fan experience, which is for most of us a short term week to week thing. Manchester United, based on its revenues, should have a team able to compete on all fronts for titles now, in the present moment. That is doesn't, and that it hasn't now since SAF retired - and the signs were there before that - is entirely the responsibility of the owners.

Without quality football the new stadium is a fool's errand, a vanity project for a distant future. The first priority has to be the football itself. Everything else stems from that. It's what the club and its revenues were built on - and It's what has been destroyed by the Glazers. Ratcliffe has no capacity to fix it because his businesses are also carrying too much debt to effectively resolve United's debt laden structure. he's tried to bring in competent people but ultimately there's a clear correlation between what you pay and what you get.

We all know Martinez was right to criticize those above. He chose Wilcox, but I believe the main problem remains what it's been since 2005.

15 Oct 2026 15:31:48
What makes you think the manager is capable of operating at the highest level?

Team aside, all I have seen from Carrick is lack of in game management
No Plan B
Strange substitutions

The two games opposing team when down to to 10 men prime example what did Carrick do nothing .

I don't see anyway in the world that Carrick warrants the job or the coaches yes he been given poor players, but he should still be doing something with what he got, after all many kept saying Tielemans is fantastic signing and Chelsea fans were up in arms about losing Santos and Cunha and Lammens are great signings. if any of that were true and Carrick should be doing much better.

15 Oct 2026 15:43:10
Carrick has been clueless along with his coaching staff and has not prepared the team to compete for this season since it started. The evidence is clear to see with our performances even if we ignore the results.

Wilcox has to go if Carrick is sacked period.

It's a blessing in disguise that our scum owners didn't back Wilcox/Carrick and held back on spending on more players.

Our whole backroom including ex players should be sacked on the spot for this disaster we are enduring.

15 Oct 2026 19:05:43
If you read my second paragraph I think it's clear I'm not exonerating Carrick. He's not the manager anyway. He's the head coach and, for whatever reason, he's failing to get the squad ready for action.

No one at United comes out well right now.

15 Oct 2026 20:45:36
So are we saying we don't have a squad capable of more than 6 points from 6 games, 2 of which were against promoted teams?

16 Oct 2026 04:30:36
Clearly that's what this squad are capable of 6 points in 6 games, of that there is no debate because it's a fact.

15 Oct 2026 12:13:36
The rumour mill for the next manager is in full swing. I think any manager would struggle at United now. Recruitment during the summer left Carrick very vulnerable. The options seem to be Eddie Howe, Fabian Hurzeler and Antonio Conte. Howe would be no better than Carrick.

Hurzeler has indeed got promise and ability but I feel is too inexperienced. Conte would be good short-term but would be away after a couple of years. I would tend to stick with Carrick and support him in January with a few quality signings, not stop-gap average players.

15 Oct 2026 12:26:38
Why bother sacking Carrick? Those in charge of making the decision are clearly incompetent anyway.

15 Oct 2026 12:40:45
If you say Howe is inexperienced what does that make Carrick, who only ever managed in Championship with one team oh you saying because he played for United that makes him better choice.

Conte or Howe have far more experience than Carrick and would both be better, but Conte by far stand out candidate for next couple of years, days are long gone of long term managers anyway.

15 Oct 2026 13:05:30
I said that Hurzeler was inexperienced, not Howe. Howe is indeed experienced but experience is no guarantee of quality.

15 Oct 2026 13:35:40
The club need to do something extreme. They need to overhaul everything, they need to start and FINISH a project. However, it takes strength and resolve to do this. Plus a bucket load of cash. We've talking probably in the region of £0.5bn+. I'm not sure the board have the guts or willingness to spend to bring success.

For me I'd go with Julian Nagelsmann as manager and Markus Krösche as DoF. You'd ideally appoint Krosche ASAP and get him to review and strategise and prep for Naglesmann to come in to put down somefoundations to build off but I don't know if there is time.

Whoever comes in is basically starting from scratch again. The squad is imbalanced, a hodgepodge of players suited to different systems, defenders aging out, defenders not bloodied in properly. Players that should have been replaced.

The mental strength of the dressing room is in question and the harmony and culture is in question. So whoever comes in is going to need some seasoned pro's they trust to lead the dressing room.

Turning this around was hard when Rangnick was here we're multiple years down the line making the same mistakes and in a worse position. Turning this around is going to be painful but not impossible, it just boils down to what the owners want - a successful football team or a profitable asset. All evidence points to the former so far.

15 Oct 2026 16:13:28
They don't get much more experienced than LvG, or Mourinho. I was so excited by those appointments, especially the former.
We've gone for more hipster appointments who've been flash in the pans in their respective leagues like EtH and Amorim.
Now we've gone for no previous top flight experience.
At this point, it's safe to say we've tried literally everything, with only a few scraps of success and also-ran seasons, such as Mourinho and Erik achieved.

I'd also add that I can't recall many great matches where I've got off my seat in excitement, like the prime Fergie years. We just haven't been good to watch for so long. One of the few highlights were watching us beat City in Jan, or winning the FA Cup in 22.23 but precious little else.

15 Oct 2026 17:44:12
I wonder if we removed Wilcox and others who made the job untenable whether Ruben would come back to finish what he started. That would be the smartest thing the club has done in 20yrs.

16 Oct 2026 04:34:22
Jesus Christ more yesteryear who would want RA back take of the tints the football was crap under him and results disastrous why does anyone romance like life was great under RA it's ridiculous he was another manager with lack of experience, not exactly pulling up trees in Italy either where it's much easier league.

16 Oct 2026 08:03:34
Then who JSU?
You are back to offering nothing and criticising everything. It ends badly for you, every time.
Amorim would be welcomed back by the squad and the fans. He had a vision, the board didn't back that vision. It has been a rapid down hill journey since his departure.

15 Oct 2026 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Matchday 6 - Quick Round Up

15 Oct 2026 13:01:22
Nonsense jsu.
The 3 most successful clubs in England over last 7 or 8 years have had a long term manager in place. And the most successful club's for 30 years before that had long term managers in place in England
I agree conte is the right choice on the face of it and that he would not be long term for sure but we don't need a long term manager next we need a fixer and conte fits the bill imo.

15 Oct 2026 13:54:17
Couldn't agree more I just can't see INEOS wanting to go there incase he calls them out. Conte would demand respect from those above and below and that's what we need, he'd also demand heaving backing and that's where the issue lies. He wouldn't get it and it would all blow up. Maybe I'm wrong, we shall see.

15 Oct 2026 15:38:47
30 years is history in case you did not notice, yesteryear plus you really think Pep would have stayed at City if he was not getting those illegal players, so discount him.

because every other job he done 3-4 max then burnt out Jose 2-3 years at any club, Conte same, Carlo not much longer surely you can't be including Arteta but If your including Arteta are we now classing 1 epl title = successful?

15 Oct 2026 00:05:32
Martinez just released a new statement apologising for and reframing his post match comments from last night. Clearly someone's been in his ear. All fine then, nothing to see here and on we go lol.

15 Oct 2026 03:23:08
Said yesterday a statement would be released within 2 days and here it is at record speed, appears Martinez English got exceptional over last 24 hours too .

One would have to think Written for him by his paymasters!

He be gone in January, no loss there but we still have same ol crap to watch every week.

15 Oct 2026 07:10:10
Definitely a statement prepared for him by his employers, who remain the heart of the problem.

15 Oct 2026 08:06:23
Does not matter. It was said and this is just damage limitation by the club.
They cannot unhear it and the resounding support for Martinez will be tangible. No amount of backpedaling will make that interview go away.

15 Oct 2026 09:56:37
He did not apologise at all.
I sorry of admire his honesty.
But amend uts q big bit he had been awful himself this season that's where his honesty would start.
At fualt for 2 extra time equalisers against us and scored a dumb ass OG for fulhams equaliser.


Not once did he say I've been useless and worse than the signings they've made.
He had been useless and that's where his honesty would start.
New signings didn't cost us the points he has cost us this season.

15 Oct 2026 10:06:51
Your right Ken he has been awful, but what he said was definitely true. Unfortunately those above will skate away from criticism again. No accountability whatever, Wilcox safe in his job even though he's been a disaster in his decision making and managerial interference. Best in class my ***.

15 Oct 2026 12:27:40
Can't wait to see this all on Amazon!

15 Oct 2026 12:45:36
I never been admirer of Martinez on the field, unless CB for EPL imo and cost us so many points this season anyway and hardly ever fit and plays the man instead of the ball but I admire him coming out, not sure it's done any good may just make them double down to try prove him wrong.

Given United some column inches though, shame Martinez did not have some more inches!

The whole team been terrible Midfield been a joke and the attackers and those two areas have had there rebuild done for gods sake, so shows where we are going to be under Ineos.

15 Oct 2026 13:55:05
Eric, it's Guaranteed to be one of amazons highest viewing series EVER.

14 Oct 2026 20:22:24
Still early in the game but PSG so clinical against the quiet neighbours. What's so impressive is how even as double Champions League winners PSG players press and run so much. Utds players should watch and learn.

14 Oct 2026 20:36:23
3 - 0 PSG in 30mins. Loving it


If at all possible what about Enrique for manager.

14 Oct 2026 21:39:02
4 - 2 PSG look rattled. Credit (through gritted teeth) to City for fighting back.

14 Oct 2026 21:56:47
That was some game - but it shows how far away we are from that level.

14 Oct 2026 23:07:19
Great game to watch. Great tempo great technique and skills on display. Great intensity. Bravery on the ball runners off the ball. Just the opposite of how we play.

15 Oct 2026 04:12:52
Polar opposite in fact

Just shows what a well drilled and coached team can do and then some stardust sprinkled on top . Them days look light years away from United.

We are not well drilled, coached or even fit and our stardust is the likes of Cunha and Mbuemo . like I say polar opposites.