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31 Dec 2025 08:18:32
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31 Dec 2025 11:21:36
Thanks Ed,
Would be great if you don't do one of these for matchday 19, thank you??.
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31 Dec 2025 06:31:41
We had a lot of players missing which will have had an impact. But even so, it was a tough watch.
It seemed pragmatism reigned when he played 442 against Newcastle, yet last night we went back to his preferred 3 at the back.
Dorgu was awesome against Newcastle but was moved back to where he has been struggling. Given the shortage of options, that seemed very odd.
Zirkzee was awful against Newcastle but was picked to start, he was awful again.
Surely 442 would have been better given who was available - Cunha as a 10 playing off Sesko. Dorgu on the right where he looked good.
The lack of urgency and energy is my biggest issue, slow ponderous play, let's have some fight and desire.
The missing players will be used as the reason, but RA doesn't help himself sometimes.
We've drawn with a team that before tonight had 2 points. We've lost at home to a team that had 10 men for over 80 minutes, and we've shipped more goals than all bar 6 teams. Yet we won at Anfield and caused Villa a lot of problems. Make it make sense!
31 Dec 2025 11:05:00
Before the hyperbole starts this is a Wolves team that made it difficult for both Arsenal and Liverpool during the last few weeks.
That said, if you don’t give 100% in a game then in the PL now you will get punished, that is what happened last night.
Yes our form is inconsistent, generally better against the bigger teams, worse against the teams that we should pick up points against, but we are far from the finished article.
Midfield is that major issue we need to spend big on in the summer. It needs a clear out, I’m guessing Cas and Ugarte will be moved on and two new players will be brought in, that should bring more stability.
31 Dec 2025 00:23:20
There's a lot of fickle fans on here. one quick scan after the game and we are back to Amorim not being the man for the job. It's ok to not use the emotion of the last game to decide whether the manager is or isn't the right one.
There is a much bigger picture in play. We currently have half of the first team squad unavailable. We had/have a rotten core in the playing squad which is largely being repaired. It has been states on multiple occasions that we are in a process and shouldn't expect an overnight fix. We don't have a central midfield currently - that will be rectified in the next two transfer windows ready for next season.
If I was offered joint 5th at the half way point of the season I would have taken it.
Tonight's result and performance were really not good, but we've got the take the rough with the smooth. In my opinion we are making progress and there are major changes underway.
My point here is that we all need to stop using the latest emotion of the last result to decide our feeling on the team, and more importantly the manager.
31 Dec 2025 06:49:14
No doubt in my mind the manager and the team above him are the right choices and in it for the longer haul.
The team however is who should be held accountable to what is served up. For years we have been weak and that showed again last night.
Players being out of position did not help, but they should still turn up and we shouldn't need to go 4 at the back against Wolves, not ever.
31 Dec 2025 08:43:29
He absolutely is not the man for the job. I wish he was but this is not the guy. I don't see enough improvement from when he started. He over complicates the game so much that it takes away from players performance. He will require a starting 11 of superstars to play the way he wants. I know we are missing players but my opinion is not based off the wolves result, because the main reason he is not our guy is because what I am watching on the pitch is nothing like watching Man Utd.
It's risk averse, slow play no attacking wingers, and last centre forwards. I am not in favour of always changing managers but this is not our guy.
31 Dec 2025 09:16:17
Amorim hasn’t shown anything over the last 12 months to say he’s the best person for the job.
- Worst EPL finish
- Lost Europa (changed selection, lost game) .
- Worse Utd Manager statistically for around 40 years.
- Signings, non doing as well at Utd vs previous club.
- Sold Players now performing well.
Older fans know say this Dave Sexton era management.
But we can’t fire him.
It will affect January and Summer business.
No obvious options to replace him.
Elite Managers want change at Summer not mid season.
Post World Cup, Tuchel, Poch, Ancelloti, Nagglesman could be options.
Time to emotionally disengage is better advice.
31 Dec 2025 10:47:15
JD I hear what you are saying and you are right to some degree. It's the big picture, we need to keep looking at that.
But he isn't helping himself with performances and set ups like that.
We were truly awful. I've always defended him but last night was a bit of a turning point for me, there are no excuses for that.
Hope it's a kick up the arse for all involved.
31 Dec 2025 11:43:31
I do agree with some of the points above. A case of rock and a hard place. There's the old logic that the table doesn't lie. Besides Villa I don't think any of us would have argued that the teams above us would deserve to be come the end of the season.
It is very much one step forward and one step back but I do personally believe we are on the right path with Amorim.
30 Dec 2025
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31 Dec 2025 08:07:58
Sir Matt was still the manager when I first started, followed by Wilf McGuinness. Where have the years gone?!
31 Dec 2025 08:13:15
It was Besty, Charlton and Law for me AJH but boy these guys had something too.
Our club sadly, is a fallen giant of an angel and needs to return upwards again to the heavens.
I hope its going to be in my lifetime.
31 Dec 2025 09:20:54
Fergie 94/95 for me.
Still remember walking over the bridge and see a very different but still spectacular.
31 Dec 2025 10:54:52
Big Ron 85 team for me. 1st game I remember watching 6 years old, big Norms winner against Everton. What a goal!
Hughes, Whiteside, Mcgrath, Olson, Bailey and my boyhood hero and greatest captain ever Bryan Robson.
31 Dec 2025 11:16:43
1977 aged 6 for me, i was brought up watching Fulham with my family at the Cottage when Bestie was playing for them. We moved to N Ireland in '77 so I kept the Best connection going in a country where most people supported united or Liverpool at the time.
30 Dec 2025 22:23:21
That result and performance just typifies 2025 for this club and manager. Others still defend him and that’s their right, I just don’t see it. Back 4 worked the other night yet back to the 3/5 tonight. Anyways that game leaves a bad taste in the mouth but hope springs external for 2026 ?
Happy new year to all on the site, I hope 2026 is a healthy and happy one for all ???.
30 Dec 2025 22:43:55
He used the game as a practise for his precious formation.
30 Dec 2025 22:54:01
Look at the team that finished the game, what do you expect? We play your precious 4 at the back 2nd half and we looked clueless, because the players are kids and nowhere near ready. Amorim has made a few mistakes but I’ve no idea what you expect him to do. Look at the players missing, any team would struggle with them out and the team that finished the game would get relegated, but who else can he play?
We need players back quickly.
30 Dec 2025 23:05:40
Nailed it GDS2.
30 Dec 2025 23:20:54
Even with players back without better midfield we will struggle.
30 Dec 2025 23:22:12
That’s your opinion gds and I respect that. I just don’t share your opinion. Happy new year to you anyways ?.
30 Dec 2025 23:27:20
Tim,
Happy new year to you too. Do you think the kids that finished the game are ready then? What would you have done differently tonight?
30 Dec 2025 23:43:41
Probably not but I would have liked to see him start with the 4 from the first whistle. Your right That the performance and result tonight has caveats due to the missing players, however we witnessed the exact same against westham, Everton etc when we had a near full compliment.
It’s not like it’s a one off is my point. Add to the fact that wolves have been terrible all season only adds to the disappointment.
31 Dec 2025 00:00:55
Gds, 2025
13 wins
11 draws
14 losses
Are we blaming the kids then?
Tonight was disastrous, no excuses, not good enough.
31 Dec 2025 00:22:26
Sorry GDS but i completly disagree.
Sesko 75mil
Ugarte 40mil
Dorgu 30mil
Cunha (who did nothing except fall over) 60mil.
That's only a few names there but there is enough quality in your squad to win that game or at least put in a performance at old trafford. Some of the lads who have left united recently have shown they are good players.
Surely there can be no excusing Amorim for this result. That was an absymal performance and he should have serious questions to answer.
31 Dec 2025 08:08:49
I think your point was finished when your 2nd player was Ugarte who wouldn’t get a game for my Sunday team. But what else can he do? Who would you have played that’s better than the options? Our first 2 choice centre halves, first 3 choice attacking mids and first 3 choice right sided players are all missing. Ok there are good players on the pitch but you need 11 for a football match and there are weaknesses all over the pitch.
I think there has been improvement in recent weeks but last night was disappointing. No need for knee jerk reactions though, we are all so up and down. This season was always going to be a rollercoaster but we are in a much better position than last season and I expect the 2nd half of the season to be even better.
31 Dec 2025 08:09:47
In one GDS2.
30 Dec 2025 20:06:27
Did INEOS not post 55 billion profits for the year, he owns 60%.
30 Dec 2025 11:04:04
Will this impact the club?
bm magazine Article - Ratcliffe battles to keep Ineos afloat as £18bn debt draws in vulture funds
30 Dec 2025 12:09:51
No, the club ownership is ring fenced from ineos other operations so in worst case scenario, the bondholders have no claim to the club or its assets.
Only thing that would impact the club is that Sir Jim might be less inclined to inject more of his own cash into the club but not sure how much he planned on doing that anyway.
30 Dec 2025 18:53:25
Dsg, has sir Jim ever used any of his own funds?
30 Dec 2025 07:39:04
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29 Dec 2025 20:51:32
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29 Dec 2025 19:01:22
Amorim now explaining his refusal to change the system stems from the media and how he did not want them to let his players believe that the media had an external pressure.
Gotta say, i am liking this man more and more this season.
29 Dec 2025 20:06:51
Completely agree and by the way I think there is 100% truth to it. I was saying that as soon as he changes something he will lose the dressing room. I think Wolves tomorrow night will be a tricky game so hopefully we come through with a win.
29 Dec 2025 20:49:37
Whilst I agree and admire his resolve, there is an element of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
It could have cost him his job.
Still not convinced as yet but he is certainly improving his lot. I sincerely hope he continues to do so in the expectation that we get some longer term stability.
29 Dec 2025 21:14:39
Bravado or foolishness time will tell
Tomorrows match against Wolves will be difficult
They are playing with a freedom now and still have spirit as they shown against Liverpool. With so many players missing it is quite possible Utd lose. I really would like to see the youngsters getting on for a decent amount of time but tomorrow may not be the right game.
29 Dec 2025 21:54:49
Lads, we were 16th or 17th last season. We're doing ok.
29 Dec 2025 22:19:13
It doesn't matter what he says it was/is. The most important thing is that he is doing what we wanted him to do months ago.
I like the pragmatism, long overdue. He speaks of compromise, I think that comes from chats with Wilcox et el.
30 Dec 2025 06:32:45
So if the press say he should drop Dalot then he has to play him every game. Starting to make sense now.
30 Dec 2025 06:39:40
It is nice to see a few more lads seeing what has been crystal clear to a few others for a while.
Amorim is bringing stability to the ship and throwing overboard the ones who aren't willing to tow the line.
The club as a whole is ridding the club of deadwood and having a reset.
I don't care how he treats the players, he is there to get the best out of them, and if that means throwing them under a bus for a reaction, so be it.
I recall he mentioned Shaw early doors, he has been a revelation since.
I think it is a great way to weed out the weak mentality players and fast track their exits, aka Sancho, Rashford, garnacho etc.
I have been constant in my critique of our weak minded players and cannot wait for a time when we are rid of them all.
30 Dec 2025 07:51:05
Angel.
"The most important thing is that he is doing what we (angel) wanted him to do months ago. "
Somewhat narcissistic.
30 Dec 2025 16:06:32
The Important thing is winning.
He’s basically admitting the media control his decisions.
Surface levels sounds like a solid quote but underneath it shows weakness and fear of opinion.
We could have 6 more points, if he’d changed sooner.
30 Dec 2025 18:13:53
Fizz, I had just had a conversation with my uncle after replying to this, who had said the exact same thing.
We (being a lot fans) including myself, some friends and family have all been hoping he would be more pragmatic with his set up for months upon months now. We were conceding too many goals and losing too many games. It was a collective we, nothing to do with me. But I would expect you to understand that ?
I'm delighted he is doing this now. Long overdue, but it doesn't matter.
30 Dec 2025 20:01:22
Aye, keep blaming ‘the system’ rather than the players. ?.
30 Dec 2025 22:25:54
The wolves game proves the players need turning over. So so bad, in so many areas.
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